DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF ON THE HONDA TRAIL 125/CT-125/Hunter Cub? | Hidden features and tricks

[@AggroNoobs]

Holy shit, the boomer comments down here are beyond toxic. Thanks for the little overview. I know you're just some dude with a camera and not something high production like RevZilla with spread sheets and a week to write a script, so it's nice just getting "some dudes" impressions.

[@John5XR]

Ya know, I’ve been waiting for a comment like this! I couldn’t agree more, I’m really just a guy with a bike sharing my thoughts on stuff after having just gotten the bike. No insight from anyone, just me going over the bike and my excitement. The boomers jump all over me on some videos about the Trail, it’s a nostalgic bike that some old timers don’t like seeing “youngsters” (I’m 40, by no means young) mess with, especially when they think Honda has engineered it “perfectly”…I’m gonna pin this comment, I love it! Thanks for taking the time to comment 🙏

[@Yogibayer4u]

I apologize for those folks in my age bracket who haven't represented us well! Age and wisdom have only a slightly positive correlation, unfortunately. One of my favorite movies of all time is "Harvey", with Jimmy Stewart. His character is a super-friendly guy named Elwood P. Dowd, whose drinking buddy is an invisible 6-ft tall rabbit. The way he treats people is exemplary....you can't watch the movie and not want to be more like Elwood.....the world would be a better place!! One of Elwood's soliloquies, available on YT: "Years ago, my mother used to say to me, 'Elwood, in this world you need to be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant.' Well, for years, I was smart. I recommend pleasant." (great OLD movie!)

[@phillipgraves4721]

This video confirms it, I need one of these now.

[@John5XR]

I didn't know HOW much I needed it until I figured out I could carry all sorts of stuff on that rack!

[@marcmaz21]

Everyone always wishes for extra stuff like bigger engines, kick start , etc etc. How about just enjoying what the bike is. This is an awesome little machine.

[@Anonymouseys]

@@marcmaz21 Anyone who wishes for that 'extra stuff' can choose from a huge selection of other bikes. This little bike is perfect for what they intended it for. I can't wait until it comes to the UK.

[@daviduns2196]

@@Anonymouseys do you think it will come to uk ? I hope so.

[@Anonymouseys]

@@daviduns2196 I do think so, yes. It's been announced it Europe so I don't think it's too much of a stretch. The demand is there. I've spoken to six Honda dealers and they are all being asked about availability. None of them know for sure that it's coming but they are mostly thinking that it will come. If not, I'm buying one in Europe and bringing it home.

[@jamesmatte9966]

On most Hondas that thing that you refer to as a helmet tether is actually a helmet lock you put that through the face of your helmet in those two straps click underneath your seat when you close it to lock your helmet so that so that it does not get stolen just thought you should know that

[@alexanderweaver4838]

Thanks for pointing out the features on this bike. I watched a video of a rider in New Zealand who thrashed this bike on a gravel trail and a rocky river bed and the bike held up to the abuse. I plan to travel throughout the lower 48, Canada and Alaska within the next few months after converting my GMC Savana cargo van into a camper. At 74 I'm past beating myself up on a mountain bike and this Trail 125 seems to be a perfect companion to my van.

[@John5XR]

I 100% agree that this would be the perfect bike for your needs! And being a Honda, yes it will handle the abuse for sure. I've trashed my Grom with a bit of reckless abandonment and it never seems to matter much. The 125 Hondas will never let you down

[@glacialmobbs7657]

Good idea

[@timschutte6924]

Exactly, I'm 59 and I would like one of these really bad nut I cannot find a dealer that has one. Even used is ok. These bikes are just fun Get you where you need to go. Everything you need and nothing you don't. And price is not bad. EVERYTHING HONDA MAKES IS JUST QUALITY and EXTREAMLY DURABLE. LAST A LIFE TIME. WITH PROPER MAINTENANCE

[@techtard829]

If only it had the low range gearbox, it would be better than the old one.

[@kd8opi]

Yes. And call me crazy, but dam I love the little, integrated, emergency, canteen-like, auxiliary fuel tank. It saved me 2x.

[@billcushion1049]

I’ve walked past this model many times but not today. I stopped to really check it out, I will buy one

[@TWist-sh4uc]

The Grom and the Monkey have a manual clutch. If the battery is down 2.nd gear and push. A bike with automatic clutch needs a kickstart if the battery is down.

[@donald5704]

Just brought my 2022 home on 07/09 and read the manual today but I really appreciated your video on the cool features this little bike has. I’ve been too busy riding it to tinker with the tool box or seat but thanks to you I’m ahead of the game. Cheers!

[@Shagnasty-bo5bj]

I just have to giggle about what people think that kick starter is actually for and what it is really capable of with fuel injection. If your battery goes dead with fuel injection you can kick that kick starter till eternity and that bike will never start! The kick start only works with carburetors when the battery goes dead and you would also need a magneto stator to generate electricity for the ignition which way back on the original cub or trail they had points and condensor for the spark. Everything was mechanical then. There is a mountain of videos that I have watched that all said the same thing about the kick start being for when the battery goes dead but the reality is with electronic ignition and fuel injection the kick start is just a novelty and it really only works on this bike when the battery has a charge in it. That all being said, this is still a great bike and I would still love to own one of them if I had a need for one. 😁

[@herbiesnerd]

You put the helmet tether on backwards!

[@tomhinklejr.5055]

I love the concept! I was a little surprised that they didn't include a spark plug wrench, but that's easy too add. During the video I caught a glimpse of the Honda 70 Trail with fold down bars. When I was young, my father bought me the 70, and my brother the 50. With the bars down, we could put them in our old station wagon. Wish I had them now!

[@paullariat4817]

Kick starts and heel shifter's are great in the main countries in Asia where the Trail 125 will be sold, where you need a robust bike that can handle poor/no maintenance, lack of spares; and you'll be riding in bare feet, flip flops or light shoes. The heel shifter doesn't damage your footwear (or feet) :-).

[@cubgsan]

Good morning to you! I am Cross Cub grandpa from Japan and sharing Cross Cub video. Awesome REVIEW !! So great job ! Have a nice day friend !

[@NorthwoodsNomad]

I was told that the many business men/women who ride these bikes back and forth to work in Japan and Asia had requested this ‘heel/toe shift’ feature, and the heel shifter is preferred so they don’t scuff up the toes of their dress shoes while up shifting. This feature was integrated for this very reason on the early “ Super Cub “ models and carried over throughout the years and is still a very functional standard feature as seen here . This was long before there were the modern day scooters that have automatic / clutch less transmission and a deck board / plate in lieu of foot pegs for resting your feet . I love these bikes ! Trying to justify the need for one in my own mind , and wanting the new CRF300L too !

[@seankearney6915]

I believe that to me the case. The originals had the toe end the same as the heel end too. Not sure about scuffing shoes lol! Have you seen how many of these are ridden in flip flops. A few of us weren't allowed motorbikes as teenagers and got the original C50/70/90s as hand me downs and just swapped out the gearlever for a motorbike one. We found if you ride them in boots you wanted to rotate the gear lever clockwise a spline or two then it was impossible to press down with your heel anyway. My dad used to use his toe on the back half for upshifts anyway and was miffed when I swapped the lever out.

[@John5XR]

Great comments guys! That's an interesting thought about the heel shifter, and makes sense. I actually love it and use it on almost every upshift despite thinking I'd never use it. It's one of those things you never knew you'd need or use until you actually have it.

[@jessemullins8144]

I use mine to ride around campgrounds, up to the pool or to get ice,and I’m often in sandals. The heel/toe shifter is nice for that.

[@johnhess351]

There is an Aussie Boomer nicknamed HUZO who retired fro the post office and rode all the way around Australia a couple of times on his CT110. No one ever told him he couldn't, so he did.

[@toolshedjunky]

Quick tip: Remove kick starter and replace it one tooth counter clockwise. It will no longer smack the back of your leg/boot.

[@John5XR]

Hot tip!! Awesome!

[@brianmccann666]

You beat me to the best tip. 😆

[@1972mercurycougar]

Oh geez. Does any body actually have 1 in stock, available for sale, in a 300 mile radius of Central, Wisconsin?? I can't take it. Nobody has one in stock, and the handful coming in, are pre-sold. Crypes!!

[@NorthwoodsNomad]

@@1972mercurycougar I was watching a video earlier that said there has been a 50% increase in motorcycle sales since the start of the pandemic. Pre order a 2022 model is all I can tell ya bro

[@seankearney6915]

@@1972mercurycougar No wonder they aren't bothering to send them to the UK and Europe, you guys are taking all they can make. I have started to watch how to do personal import videos lol!

[@jeffjohnon4223]

The heel shifter was designed to keep your shoe from getting dirty on top. Originally on the super cub in Japan where women and people with suits would ride them with nice shoes on.

[@John5XR]

I read this recently, pretty cool that they carried on with that design

[@destraye]

D e s i g n

[@nielsdebakker3283]

@@John5XR And through the whole of the east they ride them wearing flipflops. (or thongs as the australians would say)

[@fredhogg4361]

These bikes are huge in the Asian market and in Asia it's very common to ride wearing flip flops and soft shoes ..... so automatic bikes or heel shifters are big business. There's a good economic reason for this not just off-road utility. Not everyone wears boots to ride.

[@josephrobichaud5198]

My first bike was a CT 90 with the old two speed gear box. I beat the snot out of that bike for many years and just could not break it. After a while it develop an oil leak, and as a dumb a** kid I forgot to put oil in it one day. It locked up, I just added a Qt. of oil and it started right back up. When I went to a bigger bike I sold it to a guy that fixed the oil leak and drove it everyday to go to work for over 5 years and only changed the tires, oil, air filter. I had no money for gas so I would go around to the gas stations after they closed and drain the gas out of the hoses and I'd be good for another week. :)

[@scotty2307]

That thing on the bottom of the air box is, in fact, called a duck bill valve. I do not remember which YT channel did it, but they disconnected the battery, and the engine started with 1 kick, so yes, it will run with a dead battery.

[@yvespetit]

I just ordered mine up here in Québec. Our farmer father had bougt a CT90 back in 1970 for one of my brothers. It looked almost identical to this 125 model. One feature the CT90 had that this one does'nt have is a 2 range gearbox...the low/high lever gave us access to 8 speeds. We would often be 3 on the bike (it also had rear footpegs) and no hill was too steep for it in low 1st. We used to call it our little tractor.

[@John5XR]

That’s a great story, you’re gonna love the new Trail!

[@wocookie2277]

Kick starter is great for getting water out of the spark plug hole if you swamp it 😉 old school tech.

[@John5XR]

good point

[@jamesmatte9966]

That was my first thought to lol

[@spydie]

that Allen key under the seat is actually for toolbox. It's your key for the box. Yes, it does fit some other things, but it is actually the toolbox key.

[@John5XR]

Showed that in the video, that is correct 👍

[@randyholloway920]

Definitely would like to try one of these. I grew up, with these in the 1970s.

[@ZX9jar]

I'm glad to see this has a kickstart, I heard the super cub didn't have one, which also means the new Dax doesn't have one, which is pretty bad really since they both have auto clutches like this which means you are stuffed when battery goes flat on the trail..

[@georgecates9538]

Love the trail 125 behind you the 70 I’m 59 with RA and the most perfect little bike for old men that love to trail ride my Arthritis fits it perfectly. Great job the trail is great.

[@daveclark1652]

I live in the Pacific NW and owned a 1970 CT90 up until a few years ago. I actually big game hunted with it and took it in crazy terrain (river/creek bottoms, mountain Jeep trails etc.) IMO the best utility bike Honda ever made. Mine hade a Hi/Low transmission and would do 60mph on the highway and in low it would cart me and my 200+ buddy up a dirt hill with him riding on the rack- lol (I actually bungee corded a boat cushion over the rear rack as a seat) also- the rack holds an old plastic milk crate perfectly for hauling gear etc! Great Vid and thanks for sharing. (I just ordered 2 Honda monkeys today but won’t see them for 8-10 weeks- plan on doing some mods with your instructional vids) thanks again!

[@John5XR]

That’s awesome!! I know those 90’s were beasts with the hi/lo selection, everyone wishes the new bike had that too. You’ll love the monkeys, they’re the coolest of the reissues and are a blast to ride!

[@dennishein2812]

That heel shifter was on small bikes back in the sixties. It’s not a new thing. So is having a kickstart with an electric start. They used to send a couple more tools with some bikes. A wrench and spark plug tool used to be included. Honda, Kawasaki or Hodaka also had a low/high transmission.

[@johntheaccountant5594]

The CT125 (Trail 125 ) is 89,000 baht => US$2870 in Thailand The Honda Wave 125 electric start is 58,000 baht => US$1,870 in Thailand So most people in Thailand just put those trail tyres on their old Honda Wave for 1400 baht => US$41 for the pair. the advantage of the Honda Wave is that it has a flat bench seat so can carry two or three people around as well while the trail is limited to only one person.

[@lance5041]

I wish I could get a wave or Suzuki underbone here in the states.

[@keithtrent4446]

Nice video And yes it will start with kick starter even if battery is disconnected. Fuel injection works off stator power. Like all new fuel injection motocross bikes.

[@John5XR]

Thanks for that, it wouldn't make much sense to have if it didn't I suppose...

[@phillip.9524]

I bought my first postie bikes CT90 with dual range gearboxes from a Post Office auction in Sydney in the early 80’s . Great for working cattle and the dog could ride on the back. On the side stand you just weld a 2” diameter steel plate for wet going.

[@John5XR]

Very cool! I've watched a few postie bike videos myself. It is the ultimate farm bike and that's mostly how I use mine (not on a farm, but around my house for chores)

[@williambaldwin167]

The center stand is an excellent bash gaurd for the rear swing arm and chain when you treat it like a mountain goat.

[@順番配給]

in thailand that bike isn't that cheap but it is capable that heel shifter is design for "flip-flop" and while the whole world using (down 1)-N-(2-3-4 up) in asia it is N-(1-2-3-4 down)->N we use heel to downshift and the transmission does cycle around (at least in thailand) it is much more convenient but now our motorcycle trend is going automatic (CVT) but CVT isn't that good for off-road and hills anyway have a good day.

[@mcpf219]

Excellent presentation--thanks so much!!

[@spydie]

If your battery is dead, or even completely missing, this bike will start and run without a battery (completely removed). It's been proven online (Ride With Warro). And that's what the kickstarter is for.

[@John5XR]

Completely removed? I’ll be interested in seeing how that works as the battery is the foundation of the electronics system. Did he jump the two terminals together?

[@spydie]

@@John5XR He completely unhooked it and left the ends dangling. Not connected together. It produces enough electricity to run the electronics, fuel pump, etc with just a kick, and it keeps running. The battery is not the foundation of the electronics. The stator is.

[@John5XR]

Fascinating! I know my old carburetor bikes worked like this but figured the new efi bikes needed a battery like a car does. Cool!

[@spydie]

@@John5XR You can watch all my videos on KZbin. I was the first owner in southern NM and I cover everything. Be sure to watch my latest movie about the new speedometer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oau8cphoi8mshZo

[@seankearney6915]

Not sure who now, but sure I saw someone prove they could be bump started as well.

[@proguardpets389]

Its on backwards for the helmet cable lock , the cables rings are meant to slide under the opening on the same bar , under the seat -- there is an opening under that bar that you cant see ..

[@John5XR]

mistakes were made, I'm not an expert...

[@rebelbatdave5993]

The fact, that it has a kick start! Is Great! Probably the main reason? I'd buy that, over a ruckus,or SUPER Cub.

[@harleyworm3641]

Basically, this is a pretty good video highlighting some of the bike's features. Thank you!

[@brianmccann666]

Man i love the postie bikes design a lot. Always have. CT70s & CT90 designs were perfect. Thanks for sharing your new Trail125 to us. They moved the tool kit. Nice. It used to be behind the panel under the airbox. I'm sooo happy they kept the kickstart feature. Every bike under 300cc should have a kickstart imho. Murphy's Law and all. Ohh i may have to buy this afterall. 😆

[@John5XR]

Sounds like you sold yourself! 😁

[@3sam7]

Tool kit was stored under the panel in the battery compartment, on the kick start side. Not under the air box. The air box was rather complicated to access on the later CTs. I like the new design.

[@rockbay79]

I really love this new Honda Trail 125. However, for over a year, I can not find one for sale anywhere. I will buy one as soon as I can find one! Currently, I own a 1972 Honda Trail-90. My Trail 90 is in mint condition and has won me a couple of cool trophies! This new 125 Edition seems to have all the upgrades like Turn Signals, Elec Starter, Disk Brakes, Etc...... I would sure would love to own one, but they are more scarce than chicken teeth at this point!

[@John5XR]

This is true and too bad, cause a lot of people would love to buy one, but the supply just isn’t there for some reason

[@robertolesen2349]

When used correctly the helmet loop should make it harder to steal your helmet

[@yarisftw3736]

yes! this is what i was thinking! it would be better just to latch your chin strap around the bar and close the seat if you can. i was trying to think if you could loop through; cut the bar and add a spring sheath, sorta like how a carabiner lock works. then you could pull the rubber part through the D rings and hook the metal loops on the bar and slide the sheath over for strength.

[@SheDesignsUx]

I love the heel shifter, I wear a 5.5 shoe (womens) and it makes it way easier for me than using the toe shifter since my feet are small.

[@armadilllo]

Heel toe shifter is for countries they usually have bare feet or sandals so they don't have to put a bare toe under it to shift.

[@whereswaldo5740]

I think that helmet tether might be better utilized around that grab bar on the rack behind the seat. Then your helmet could sit flat on the rack in case it rains. I’d mention the grab bar is handy when putting the bike on the center stand. As well as moving it around getting it unstuck or a temporary passenger for off road short distances since no buddy pegs.

[@curtismerrifield1581]

Heel shift is for flip-flop riding

[@hillbillysportsman5818]

Had an uncle that’s used one of these for his deer hunting vehicle back in the 70s before the modern ATV.

[@rjb7394]

This is about my previous Honda, a Grom, but I think still relevant. The Grom charging system is barely strong enough for normal operation of the stock bike. Mine had an after market computer system which used more power than stock and when idling it would gradually discharge. With a marginal battery it would die in about five minutes and would not turn over without first charging it again.

[@latebloomer2]

Yes , engine with EFI still can be started without good battery. I have 2010 Honda Revo Techno AT , 110 cc moped with 2nd Gen PGM-FI , basically super cub 110 with different plastic body and CVT transmission, I don't use it for 4 years, of course the battery was flat dead, only need 3 times kickstart and it back to life. Sorry, forgot to mention I'm from Indonesia.

[@Aka.Aka.]

All cubs are beautiful 🥰🥰

[@yolo_burrito]

The EFI should work with kick start as the motocross efi models don’t have a battery

[@justmeandjack]

The wrack is made to carry a milk crate. Basically a standard fitment to every ct110 sold to the public after Australia Post has finished with them

[@John5XR]

I can see that, it's super helpful to me in everyday life!

[@phillipdavidhaskett7513]

As a teen, I had a Honda CL70 that was essentially this bike. I had hair down to my shoulders, a roach-clip earring and the prettiest girl on the JH cheer squad. Life never got better than that summer in 1971. WTF happened?

[@michaelhrivnak1719]

You grew up! Me too.

[@Snoqmike]

Does EFI work when you kick start it? Once it’s running there should be an electrical system to charge the battery and run.

[@WizzRacing]

It has a high mount Intake. It goes all the way up under the Rack.. So you can drive in 24" of water. If you had too.... Not sure if they kept the High\Low Gear selector...Like the old CT 90 had...As it sure come in handy in the old days....

[@John5XR]

No hi/lo gear on the 125 unfortunately, it could use the low gear in my opinion

[@ronb9901]

So put a dead battery in it and kick start it & you’ll find out if the efi works…

[@BenjaminDaniel85]

I didnt know how I would like the heel shifter either. I love it! 😅

[@johnhess351]

Right! "Try it, you'll like it!" Especially with muddy hiking boots. Great on any bike.

[@morganmossman1955]

The heel shifter is traditional to the original Honda trail bikes i.e. CT110 & Trail 90 (which the Trail 125 is modeled after), ST 90, Trail 70 etc. Which is why the Trail 125 has it.

[@saxon1177]

So is the throttle.

[@randyholloway920]

Fair enough, but semi-automatic transmission is out-dated.

[@WyLEE08]

You ought to disconnect the battery and see if the kickstart & EFI works.

[@crpth1]

Honda's PGMFI for these small bikes was developed alongside with the entire electric system. Precisely because of situations like that. Notice that the same basic system is also used on the tiny 50cc's with FI and many times CVT transmissions. Where they can perform in the same condition. ;-) I recall Honda engineers pointing precisely that fact and how challenging it was. To develop a low consumption system that could work from a couple of kicks! ;-)

[@ribin21]

1. I miss the rear foot pegs. 2. I do like the new 12-volt system instead of a 6-volt 3. The high , low altitude button. 4. The folding handle bars. 5. The auxiliary gas tank. 6. The high ,low gear auxiliary switch. In low range you can pull a riding mower cart up and down a mountain to retrieve firewood, or you can pull game back to camp 7. Old helmet lock.

[@michaelobrien2246]

The Australian version comes with rear pillion foot pegs

[@ronwest7930]

I wish it had an enclosed chain like the cub. Maybe someone makes an auxiliary tank and mount for this. The hi-lo would be a good thing also.

[@kd8opi]

12v was standard in the ct110 the last 3-4 years until it was pulled from the us market in 86; but in Australia and New Zealand, this 12v version sold for another 30 years unchanged until 2013.

[@jjankosky]

It's not the "Jeep" of motorcycles. The Trail 125 is reliable and will last forever. ;-p Also, I can confirm the Trail will run without the battery installed.

[@johnhess351]

Will it start without the battery installed?

[@jjankosky]

@@johnhess351 yes. Not sure if you have a CT125 but they have a kick starter.

[@safeislandcanada]

The battery is needed as a heat sink so stator/magneto will not overheat

[@jjankosky]

@@safeislandcanada I don't understand. Please elaborate.

[@johnhess351]

@@jjankosky No, I was asking if it will run with battery removed after it is started without a battery with the kick starter.

[@arkman8109]

Bring back all the smaller Honda trail bikes, especially the 175 scrambler

[@johnbeaney1237]

If Land Rover ever made a bike, it might end up similar to this! Great bike, i have 2 Cubs back in Thailand so am familiar with how indescribable these things are! One of these Trails and an ADV 350 and you could, with a bit of gtit n effort, tour/explore most places out there.

[@michaelhrivnak1719]

Which do you prefer, if you could only choose one: The Super Cub or Trail? I go to Vietnam a lot, and love seeing the old Cubs everywhere! The Trail seems more versatile.

[@TheJosephayal]

Not a big fan of semi-automatic transmission, but this bike looks amazing

[@Posttraumaticgrowth]

Congrats with this beautiful allround bike🤙

[@John5XR]

Thanks bud! It’s pretty cool 😎

[@Pearl-hs4zh]

So hard to buy one. Nice video!!

[@hoilst265]

Design, as they say, is in the details. Also, that luggage rack better be able to hold a traditional milk crate.

[@0HARE]

Yep, thanks for the good review. I could definitely see a place in my stable of bikes for one of these. Rock On

[@johntheaccountant5594]

The tether hook is used on the monkey to put through the helmet to lock it on the helmet lock. On the CT125 you use it to lock your helmet as you showed on your Trial 125.

[@mikedkc]

That was fun. Such a cool bike. Gotta tell you, your shop/man cave is awesome!

[@John5XR]

Thanks for watching and commenting! I carved out a corner of our shop/warehouse for our business 5X Racing for my toys, I love it and glad you think it’s cool!!

[@mikedkc]

@@John5XR Yeah, I have a workshop in my basement that my grandson referred to as a "guy's room". I was pleased that he got it. Yours is high level. Be safe. Have fun.

[@jamespatterson7809]

Very impressive bike, well thought out by Honda. I always enjoy your videos as I have a new Z125, oh and after 10+ years and 3 Harley-Davidsons I very recently decided to downsize and traded my Softail Street Bob in for a new Vespa GPS 300 HPE. JP Liverpool UK

[@John5XR]

Thanks for that James! Small bore bikes are just plain fun

[@johntheaccountant5594]

I really like the style of the Honda Cub but the disappointment for the Super Cub 125 is that it does not have the kick start like the Honda Trail 125 and Honda Wave 125 and the other thing I do not like about the Super Cub 125 is the electric immobiliser on the Honda Cub 125; I would prefer a normal key.

[@xaviillas615]

The heel shift is for not to get dirty shoes if you’re going to the office. It was already invented for Montesa Impala from the 60’s

[@John5XR]

pretty cool, I love it!

[@MrRileyBrooks]

I love this bike! it's just... The coolest kind of cool. Would it make sense for someone who plans to only ever drive is on pavement though? I'm considering it as my first motorcycle.

[@John5XR]

Thanks! I wouldn’t say it’s something the bike needs in stock form, especially if you’re staying on pavement. If adding power, climbing steep hills at slower speeds, or practicing wheelies, stiffer clutch springs will help make the bike “pop” a little better. The stock clutch will feel soft when trying to do these things.

[@seankearney6915]

Depends on where your pavement riding is and how long the journeys are. My first bike was an early C90 46 years ago. To me the gears are better than having a twist and go. In the UK they were classed as a full motorbike in those days and I did my test on one. I don't like running things flat out so if you only need 45mph I would say they are a great introduction. I dare say given their popularity they make financial sense too as I bet they are easy to resell. Though I am sure you would be tempted to keep a first bike and just get a bigger one later if you wanted to do serious highway mileage. I wrote to Honda to see if they would come to the UK but just got a bland reply from their customer services. "We are pleased to learn of you interest in our products. Currently, there is no official information stating whether the Honda CT125 will become part of the UK range. As soon as we have any details about upcoming models, we publish them on the "Coming Soon" section of our website." Shame and I cant see why as we get the other 3, Super Cub, Monkey and Grom and I think the CT125 is cooler and more useable. Grom and Monkey too small, bigger wheels more comfortable on bumps, Cub only a drum rear brake. CT125 is a no brainer and you can stick some stuff on the back easier than you can with a CB125. I even bet later on you could pop a Grom engine in and have the clutch.

[@sartainja]

Too bad that they did not put the High / Low transmission on it like the CT90 and CT110.

[@John5XR]

That is probably the biggest gripe amongst those who had or have the old bikes. While it would have been clever, I’m not surprised Honda just used their already available Grom/Monkey/Super Cub engine and drivetrain package to quickly produce another cool retro throwback bike.

[@franknapolitano9144]

Does the Trail 125 have a Gear Ratio set up for Off Roads or for Street ? If you Take the battery out, and kick start, is there a magneto there that will start the engine ?

[@vikingbase]

Needs a battery for fuel injection

[@Rafael-f4c6c]

not true, the bike will start and run with the battery disconnected. @@vikingbase

[@brettwicks2615]

Thanks for sharing this information , i just purchased a CT125 , Cheers .

[@John5XR]

Enjoy!

[@EUROSPORTS4TECH]

Here in Pakistan 125 cc( cg125 ) it has high compression and 11.6 hp , very speedy bike here most famous bike in Pakistan 🇵🇰

[@EUROSPORTS4TECH]

Honda is honda name is enough

[@aussierheinhardt4390]

The shifter allows rider to wear nice suede, leather or any other material or color shoes which we need to avoid having a stain or mark on the toes area. However i dont usually use my heel but instead use balls of my foot to engage higher gear for the back pedal. You dont get tired, plus heel shifter are not for everyone cos it will be akward. Only those cubs model from the 3 major manufacturer from yamaha, honda and suzuki got these toe/heel shifter design. 😘😘😘😘😘

[@Yt_xrider]

this and the honda xrm would be great bikes at the back of campers.

[@messybench]

Heel shifter for sandals wearers in Asia.

[@John5XR]

maybe, but I sure use it on every upshift!

[@kd8opi]

Great bike, too bad they didn’t do the auxiliary gas can like on my CT110. It saved me twice.

[@John5XR]

Man this thing will go for over 100 miles on a tank though, you’d have to be going pretty far to need an aux tank!

[@kd8opi]

@@John5XR The Ct110 did close to that, it’s not unusual for small motorcycles to get 80+ mpg. The auxiliary tank was a cool feature, especially as the ct90’s and 110’s did not have fuel gauges, but a petcock that you flipped from “normal “ to reserve. Basically, with the petcock in the normal position, the gravity fed carb would sip gas from the end of a little metal straw in the tank that stuck up high enough from the bottom to drain 80% of the tank. If you started to sputter and run out of fuel, you flipped the petcock to open a hole in the side of the straw near the bottom of the tank to give yourself those that last precious quart of gas to get you back. The auxiliary tank was super cool, and let you keep an extra 30 miles of gas incase the reserve wasn’t enough, or (like what happened to me) when you forgot to switch the petcock from reserve back to normal, and when you started sputtering when your gas got low, you were out brother. The new trail 125 is a cool bike, don’t get me wrong, and it has a fuel gauge. But even today there are videos on KZbin of people riding them taking an MSR fuel bottle with them on long rides out west. One other thing, the original 110’s and 90’s also had dual transmissions. You mostly kept it in “high”, but the torque on the low gears was nuts and could take you off-road and up steep hills amazingly well, probably better than the trail 125 today (but I haven’t compared them…yet). I just wish Honda would have kept either of those two truly unique features on the new 125 trail. The old ct-110’s weren’t imported to the US after 1986, but they were sold to Australia/NZ for their postal service and to private citizens until 2013 - almost another 30 years! So, it wasn’t like these features were ancient history when the trail 125’s came back. Oh well, I guess I’m glad I’ve got my 110.

[@Wog68]

I like Honda Banely in Australia. Good delivery bike with large fuel tank.

[@nickholmes6376]

Theres a couple of other guys on y tube that have these honda's and they are throwing money at them trying to upgrade everything, i think its foolish myself, i would buy one and use it to its limits, nice little bikes that offer adventure 👍

[@John5XR]

That’s the plan!! My monkey is for modding, the trail is for working and getting the most out of in stock form. If I find a weakness, I might upgrade at that point

[@chiefkirk]

Great video brother. I'll bet there are plenty of actual owners of that bike that didn't know most or all of that stuff. I'd love to have one myself. Currently riding a 1996 Kaw Vulcan 1500 Classic with a one of a kind paint job. I'll probably never part with it. These Honda's are kinda expensive. I'm trying to convince myself it's worth to me would be worth the price. God Bless PS I use the back part of my shifter all the time. Sometimes hard to get a thick boot under the shifter. Plus it scuffs up the toe of your boot. After using my back shifter it would be uncomfortable to be with out one. A great feature.

[@DanielGrand]

My Honda Ruckus kickstarter has saved me from hours long walks on like 3 occasions alone. 👍🏼

[@John5XR]

dead battery?

[@gregorykleiman2137]

The good old heal shifter if you put a little weight on it doesn't it become a false nuetral for rolling down hills?

[@jjcummings206]

A lot of people hate the heel shifter. They replace it with a no-heel shifter or cut it off.

[@Blastfence1]

I am thinking 🤔 about using the Honda 125 to deliver for DoorDash what do you think 🤔 will it work!

[@johnhess351]

Great idea, but you should add an insulated box perhaps with heat. Some kind of a quick acting security lock to prevent theft when you are standing at the door.

[@rooster3019]

The tool kit does NOT include a Phillips screwdruver bit. That cross hatched driver is a Japan Industrial Standard (JIS) bit. Similar, not the same. Do not use Phillips bits on the bike, but JIS drivers work well on PHillips screws without much damage to the screw heads.

[@John5XR]

you'd really hate it when I use phillips head screwdrivers to remove allen head bolts 😉

[@rooster3019]

@@John5XR I'd be OK with that as long as the equipment was not mine. ;-)

[@John5XR]

That’s fair. Lol!

[@greyfox78569]

It's an bike for going to places AAA won't go, or stored long term in such places. 3:20

[@carlcolorado3549]

Kick start I believe the kick starts there because you can't pop the clutch to push start. Money you can push start if dead. Love the idea of the kick start on a 125 anyways. Known me I would use it every time

[@John5XR]

I think it's a novelty on this bike, maybe a throwback thing. I've never used it except for showing someone that it has it, nor do I think the electric start would ever fail

[@richardwalker9968]

I got a yellow one , I miss the lower gears as well...my trail 90 was faster...hands down...still like this one , oh & I also had a back seat 4 my girl back in the day...

[@Spartan375X]

Some of those little features are interesting. That paw looks a lot like a bear. One of the main two logos for my high school mascot was the grizzly head and paw.

[@John5XR]

For sure! I think it is a bear, I don’t know!

[@Professorbrap]

I really should go order one.

[@John5XR]

You should; they’re the most simple fun I’ve had next to my 77’ Z50

[@randymorgan7714]

Does it have the extra low transmission clip switch like the trail 90

[@dieselgeezer18]

no

[@potatochobit]

I dont think I will ever go off road but I do wish the regular cub had a kick start.

[@John5XR]

it's a cool feature, but one I will honestly never use so long as the electric start is working!

[@johnwinward2421]

@@John5XR My Super Cub has a kickstart. Not that I've ever had to use it,

[@bradentibbles]

The helmet tether.. I have an old yamaha scooter with a similar tether, are you sure you are not supposed to loop the tether through the helpmet metal loop, then attache the tether under the seat by the 2 metal tether loops? That way a theif would not be able to take the helmet off. This is how it works on my yamaha scoot.

[@gromitdaddy]

Yes, he has the strap backwards

[@DynaDub]

The heal, toe shifter was put on the bike for the people in Thailand to shift wearing flip flops.

[@moustachio334]

These frames are the same ones used for Cubs and Waves. It’s literally a bicycle with an engine mounted low. They’re indestructible too