Did You Know? Renault Rambler: An American in Paris!

The Did You Know? Series is part of Ed's Auto Reviews Christmas 'Car'rol: an Automotive Advent!
In this short story we look at the Renault Rambler, one of those weird overseas tricks done by American carmakers. This time, American Motors (or AMC) formed a partnership with French Renault. AMC wanted to sell cars in Europe, Renault looked for a new flagship. Et voila: The Renault Rambler was born!
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[@FiftySixishTV]

Merry Chrysler everyone

[@misanthrope22]

& a Happy New Yorker

[@nlpnt]

Happy Honda Days and Shana Toyotathon!

[@paulclarke245]

better than merry syphilis and a happy gonorrhea i guess :P

[@SuperNoviceDriver]

Happy crisis

[@jessesteinbar]

Mercury Chrysler fou YOUgo

[@luvr381]

Imagine putting a Rambler up as competition to the DS.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Having driven a few very weird Froggy cars I would take the simple Rambler every day over a Citroen

[@PlatinumNath]

​@@ldnwholesale8552 even THE Citroen DS? That's a shame, but I guess that hydraulic malarkey would be too confusing to fix without the will to learn it which is... Niche.

[@LeSarthois]

Not every Frenchman of the time wanted a DS, even in France, especially in the early years, they were seen as complex, underpowered (less than compared to US standards, but even back then, French car magazines complained about the lack of a 6 cylinder/V6 option for a car in this segment). Peugeot's answer to the DS was the 403, which was almost the complete opposite in term of... well, everything. And they ended up selling about the same numbers. (and yes, the Peugeot 403 is RWD, by the way. Peugeot was the last French carmaker to switch to FWD) For other high-end French models of the era, check the Simca Vedette (and variants). Renault own high end car, the Frégate, failed mostly because the car was rushed in less than 3 years, with heavy reliability issues; but on paper people also appreciated the very conventionnal design and layout (One major change was that Renault wanted the car to be rear engined like their other models, but realized they couldn't make a stable and well-balanced car, so the Frégate had a front engine and rear wheel drive). In fact, EVERY option for high end cars on the French markets were "classic" EXCEPT for the DS. It was the odd one out. It just happened to be the right kind of odd one. The downfall of the Rambler was that AMC followed the US trend of replacing hteir model every year, which (on a French market perspective) pretty much meant that the carmaker behind didn't trusted his car, and also, back then, people bought a car with a perspective of keeping it at least 10 years and perharps 20, so how could you expect to keep a car for even 10 years if it was only available for 1 year? And putting this aside, the Rambler evoveld with bigger engines, which were HEAVILY taxed in France (and Europe in general). Let's put it that way : the horsepower tax on the last Rambler model imported by Renault was basically equivalent to the price of a brand new Citroën 2CV. And to shave some money from the total cost, Renault removed every option they could from the Rambler, meaning that the car came with about the same options than the Renault Dauphine, except with a V8 and a crummy 3 speed automatic gearbox. In total, I think less that 4000 Ramblers were sold by Renault, and the vast majority were the 2 first years, when they were fairly equipped and priced.

[@HowardLeVert]

@@ldnwholesale8552 Some viewed Renault's 16 as "the thinking man's DS" - a smaller car yes, but very comfortable to drive and quite nippy in the TS/TX form.

[@HowardLeVert]

@@LeSarthois Wasn't the issue with large-engined cars in France that at the time, they were still taxed on a fiscal horsepower rating?

[@ivokiller2000intel]

The torino is quite an interesting story deserving it's own video. Pininfarina styling, triple webers, Fangio, Nürburgring and a national icon. It even got its fare share of tuners like Lutteral. They could also be ordered as a race rady machine. with a 4.0 250hp engine, widebody and plexiglass windows

[@markrossow6303]

nice

[@alejoferreyra3341]

Nice Country Argentina!!! I love the people and the car culture, i'd like to visit someday, greetings from Córdoba

[@msquaretheoriginal]

It used the Kaiser-Jeep overhead-cam Tornado six instead of the Nash-derived Rambler six. When AMC bought Jeep, it used its own engines, so the new 232 and 258 sixes went in, plus the 304 and 360 V8's.

[@AMCMag]

@@msquaretheoriginal The Kaiser 230 "Tornado" OHV six wasn't well received in the US when introduced in mid model year 63. Jeeps were utility vehicles, and most hated the "exotic" OHC engine vs. the more rugged and simple L-head and F-head engines older models used. There were some teething issues such as bad seals, and some maintenance issues US mechanics weren't used to. It was only used a couple years in civilian vehicles, with Kaiser buying AMC 232s after for the Wagoneer and other big Jeeps (before AMC bought Jeep in 1970 -- CJs still used the F-head four or a Buick sourced V-6, and AMC or Buick V-8s in the big Jeeps depending on year). It was still used in the US military version of the big Jeeps though through 1969 or so. Kaiser sent the engine down to their Argentine plant when it bombed in the US civilian market. As the Kaiser car models began to age IKA bought body dies from AMC. They built the Classic and Ambassador, based on the 63-64 AMC styling. Note that the Argentine Ambassador didn't have the extended wheelbase that US models did, it was a Classic with Ambassador trim. The Torino was a hybrid Classic/American. The center passenger section is from the classic, the front and rear hood/trunk sections from the US American model, with front and rear styling as well as dash by Pininfarina to make it exclusively Argentine. The old Kaiser/Continental 226 L-head six was used in many of the Ramblers until the tornado was introduced in 1965. It's odd seeing one with "Rambler" cast into the head! They were made in Argentina also.

[@watchdogsgarbagetruck8324]

Seeing the IKA Torino makes me realize we need an Automotive History Series video on Argentina (or really any Hispanic country), since they seem to have some interesting vehicles and also I remember it was one of the options in the poll that resulted in a video on Brazil's Auto Industry.

[@tutemoss9427]

El quiso hacer uno un tiempo atrás y por voto popular ganó India y después Brasil

[@watchdogsgarbagetruck8324]

@tutemoss9427 coño, de verdad que necesitamos más atención a la industria automotriz de latam 💪🌎

[@fernandonavarro3839]

Well in the Mustang Car'rol the Mexican Mustang is mentioned in the comments, so I'm going to comment about V.A.M., the Mexican AMC. Besides the Classic, American, Javelin, Gremlin, Rally, Pacer and Jeep models VAM (Vehículos Automotores Mexicanos) produced 2 indigenous rarities: the inline 6 cylinder 4.6 liter (282) motor, which continued its afterlife in the Jeep line until the first Chrysler model Cherokee, and the VAM 3 and 5 door Lerma, (which of course had the 282 6 cylinder motor) a precursor to the Chevrolet Citation and British Rover. Check it out.

[@vitoperez]

@@watchdogsgarbagetruck8324 Dónde queda eso.

[@nlpnt]

One correction at the end - the Alliance/Encore was completely manufactured in Kenosha, the only thing that came from France were blueprints (and possibly things like the 1.4L engine and manual transmission). There were even two body styles exclusive to American-made ones, the 2 door sedan and the convertible derived from it.

[@vanceblosser2155]

We had one of the first 1500 Alliances off the assembly line. The drivetrain was imported but only because AMC didn't have their production lines quite ready and shortly the entire car was produced in Wisconsin. One stupid thing that happened - the threads for the oil filter on the imported engines were SAE since Renault knew that this was common in the US. AMC changed this to metric threads for some reason and this caused a lot of confusion and some cross threaded filter mounts as the two filters looked identical. They finally put warning labels on the engine. The metric filters were a bit harder to come by. The interior trim of the first couple of years looked like it was above it's class, nice vinyl or molded plastic on all surfaces. The instrument cluster was very easy to service to replace bulbs etc. as it was a module easily removed from the top. Then around 86 or so AMC did a makeover of the interior. They buried the instrument cluster under a car wide hood making service very difficult. The C pillars got that ugly painted press board that American car companies loved so much. Two doors had the walls of the back seat area covered with it too, with cheesy molded in armrests. I don't know who designed that 1.7 liter engine but it was unreliable and difficult to service. It had a camshaft belt instead of a chain. And AMC wondered why sales were decreasing.

[@danielulz1640]

The AMC Renault Alliance, Encore and Premier were not imported, but built in the US and differed considerably from their European cousins.

[@shaneharrisnj3484]

Plus, a few Renault trucks became Mack trucks in North America... Look at the Midliner, for example. Same Renault diesel and cab... Different badges, horns, and the additional reverse alarm, if you want.

[@boboren8246]

Yes they own Mack trucks. And they built a lot of crappy trucks they just about putting that truck out of business when they owned them. I know because my father worked there and my brother-in-law worked there

[@danielspinali920]

The premier was actually built in Canada!

[@YYZ-SRQ]

@@danielspinali920 In Brampton ON, for only 4 years then production shifted to the Chrysler LH platforms then later to the 300, Charger and Challenger. 7million cars were built there. Plant is currently being retooled for the Jeep Compass and other EV cars not announced

[@marcusdamberger]

@@YYZ-SRQ A friend in high school, his dad bought a Premier and man did that car had a nice ride. Such a plush interior too! Early models Renix/Bendix electrical system let it down until replaced by Chrysler parts. Plus the PRV engine that it got saddled with like the DMC DeLorean was problematic.

[@namewithheld129]

Oh my gosh. I remember thinking the Renault Alliance convertible in the mid 1980’s was so cool looking.

[@Vutapa]

the best advent calendar i could ask for

[@tomas9830]

yesss!!! Finally the IKA Torino finally mentioned!!! Please Ed you gotta make a video so people learn about it!!

[@mrsrmp]

Thanks Ed! I can say that IKA means Industrias Kaiser Argentina (Kaiser Industries Argentina), subsidiary of the then Kaiser Motors Corps , which started building Jeeps and Willys Station Wagons, followed by the Ramblers. IKA contracted Pininfarina to redesing the Rambler for argentine taste, and the result was the IKA Torino. As Kaiser become part of AMC and Renault took over AMC along the years, the Torino was renamed from IKA to Renault, and lasted in production until 1982. Some Torinos were sold in Europe by Renault, and more recently collectors buy some and went to Europe, specially pre-1973 models

[@mpetersen6]

The Rambler models built in Argentina were mostly powered by the Kaiser SOHC inline six. The cam only had 6 lobes as each lobe operated both valves. Plus it was a hemi head.

[@dannork1240]

They made AMC Alliances (and Encores) very close to where I grew up. These cars were absolutely everywhere for a few years but it seems like every one of them disappeared by 2000 and I don’t remember the last time I saw one.

[@boboren8246]

Those cars are pure junk right from out of the factory

[@ldnwholesale8552]

But you still see Ramblers! Euro trash!

[@kenon6968]

They were also locally assembled where I live in the Andes. Plenty still on the road here, since there's little rust and parts are cheap and plentiful.

[@neildickson5394]

As with the Studebaker Mercedes Benz, Daimler Chrysler, AMC Renault Jeep Chrysler, Ford Jaguar Land Rover, GM Holden Saab, and on and on, it seems every car company eventually gets connected to others on the car tree of relations. And, Argentina's IKA was one the first after the Kaiser Willy's move there from the States in 1955.

[@chrisaaldijk441]

Super leuk om mijn Renault Rambler terug te zien in dit filmpje 👍 mooi verteld!

[@hugobloemers4425]

Een mooie auto heb je daar, veel plezier er mee.

[@paulwoodman5131]

Handsome vehicle with some interesting history, Happy Motoring 😊.

[@rolliebear42]

The 80s Renault badged as AMC are underrated. Good cars that the average american didn't understand. I briefly owned a Renault Fuego, it was as much fun to drive as my other hot hatches I owned throughout the 80s. I really miss interesting cars.

[@unhandleme]

Interesting! I was of course aware of the two companies’ later… uhm… _alliance…_ but not of the early 60s connection. Informative as always. Love your videos (and pronunciations), Ed. Merry Christmas!

[@Jfleshman1209]

My grandmother had an AMC Rambler in the early 1970's. One time she got pulled over for driving too slow in it.

[@davidb1630]

The RHD model was from Australia. I recognised the licence plate. Historical plates.

[@piglos]

Assembled by AMI (Australian Motor Industries) in Port Melbourne

[@horaciokanashiro-hv2zn]

The Rambler in pop culture: Louise Lane was seen driving a red convertible one in a Superman comic magazine of the era ( 70s). Rambler Ambassador: Was the presidential limousine for many years in Argentina. Tornado Engine: Found in Ramblers, Gladiators , Torinos from late 60s are worth to listen if you have a chance, a in line 6 ohc 3.6L, specialy those fitted in Torinos have a natural grunt and rattling, sparks emotions like Sarah Brightman, the Three Tenors. Ed ⭐👍.

[@markrossow6303]

nice

[@stanwbaker]

Nash and eventually American Motors supplied the cars for the 1952-58 Adventures of Superman TV show.

[@horaciokanashiro-hv2zn]

@@stanwbaker ⭐ 👍 from B. A Argentina 🇦🇷

[@richardbrennan8910]

I didn't realize 'our' '66 Ambassador (at 3:46) was available in Argentina!!! A really great car... V8, limited slip differential, front disc brakes, and most important for a college guy; Lay-flat seats!!!

[@ivokiller2000intel]

They were, and quite successful. But no v8 here, we had the continental i6 and the Tornado, the later was a national rework of what's available, they gave it a SOHC hemi head and even a triple Weber DCOE option (only in Torino 380w and GS I believe)

[@dustyphillips3166]

I love your long form content. This series has been quite fun too. Thank you.

[@bigcarlover]

This automotive advent calendar has been awesome. Thank you so much for doing it!

[@derrickstorm6976]

I wonder if videos that are this short make any money, cause Ed would really deserve it for the hard work these probably took

[@KoolDog570]

You're the only person I know that can describe a Rambler as a luxury car in Europe and make me believe it 😎

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Ramblers were an upmarket car in many markets. Generally with upmarket trim levels to the basic US pov pack built down to a price.

[@KoolDog570]

​​@@ldnwholesale8552not here in the US. Back in the 60s they were considered mid size & efficient, not luxury....whereas most of us Americans didn't really care about efficiency, it was full speed ahead with V8s & more power the better 😎.... That is, unless you were cruising in a 65 Cadillac or Buick Electra 225 or a Lincoln - those were our luxury cars - and either way, we didn't care about 8-11 mpg 😂

[@johnd8892]

Same in Australia. Rambler being a nearly affordable, thanks to local assembly compared to high tariff imports, American luxury car with higher power than most initially. Preferred as a police pursuit car by New South Wales Police. Upmarket locally sourced trim mostly.

[@boldone3517]

Ed, another great mini video. You mentioned the Alliance car comining from Europe to the U.S. All Alliances sold in the U.S. were made in an A.M.C. factory in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Much Success and Merry Christmas.

[@jamietie]

You can have a Citroen DS, an icon of design and technology, or you can have... a Rambler, which might have still come with a three-on-the-tree as standard

[@61rampy65]

AMC still used a flathead 6 in the cheapo American models.

[@no1DdC]

The DS was also available with a 3-speed automatic (from 1971). Still an icon and rightfully so, but if you've read or watched contemporary reviews, it was far from a flawless car.

[@sebastiend.5335]

Absolutely perfect pronunciation of the word 'Camembert'!! Greetings from the Netherlands

[@johnallred716]

Thanks Ed. Fun clip. I had an '82 Renault Fuego in the states. Most comfortable cruiser on the freeways, drove it coast to coast and back at 34 miles per gallon.

[@benjaminrobinson3842]

2:54 - This reminds me of an interesting story I once heard. Supposedly, the French president (de Gaulle, probably) was riding in his Citroën DS when a would-be assassin shot out one of the tires. Thanks to DS's trick hyrdopneumatic suspension, the car got away with just the remaining three tires. The president stuck with Citroëns for the rest of his career. Even if the rebodied Rambler had looked as good as a '61 Continental, it wasn't likely to replace the trusty DS.

[@LeSarthois]

It's true; this happened in 1962, and is know as the "Petit-Clamart attack". From what I read, two front tires (remember, it's a FWD car) were popped, and a rear tire also appear flat on pictures taken of the car. Some sources says that the passenger sides tires were popped. It is possible that 2 were popped by bullets and a third one gave up from the degraded conditions or got punctured by debris; what's for sure is that with two flats, any other car of the era would have ended spinning helplessly... but in fact, here, the driver downshifted in 3rd gear and FLOORED the DS to safety. Amazingly, the previous Presidential car was a Simca Présidence, which was replaced by the DS precisely in 1962. And yes, De Gaulle always considered that this day, the DS saved his life. Random though : De Gaulle was accompanied by his wife, next to him, and his son. And he escaped being shot in his car, in 1962. I wonder how he felt after learning of Kennedy's assasination not even 2 years after.

[@YYZ-SRQ]

compared to the DS the Rambler was as sophisticated as an Ox cart

[@notroll1279]

Back in its day, the DS unsurprisingly was a pretty expensive car - so I guess that the Rambler would have been about 30% cheaper (pulling the number out of my hat...corrections very welcome!). It's the same reason why many people in my native Germany chose a Ford Granada over a similarly sized Mercedes...

[@Clement.V]

@@notroll1279 No it's not true the Rambler cost more money than the DS. 18 000 Francs = 32 456,55 dollars for a Rambler and 12 500 Francs = 22 539,27 dollars for a DS. And people can find more cheaper DS with the Citroën ID which cost less.

[@notroll1279]

@@Clement.V Interesting - I'd never have guessed that. Thank you!

[@YYZ-SRQ]

@@Clement.V I am not sure where you got your prices perhaps they are converted to today's prices? There is no way back in the 60's that either of these cars cost over $20,000. A RR Phantom V was around $15K at the time, one of the most expensive cars before the MB 600 was launched. I found this as a guide in a UK website talking about Citroens in the UK (they were built in Slough) "A very expensive car. But there was a problem. A Citroen DS19 cost £1,726 including purchase tax, making it more costly than a Mk11 Jaguar (£1,711) and a Rover 105 (£1,696)"

[@Clement.V]

@@YYZ-SRQ I have converted it. Francs of 1961 to Euros of 2024. And Euros 2024 to dollars 2024. I have not put 1961 prices because it was in French Francs, it's too abstract for me.

[@simonbone]

Apparently AMC cars were also really popular in Thailand in the early 1970s. You could even show up at a dealership while on vacation from the States and take a LHD Hornet or Matador on a spirited test drive, to see how they handled dirt roads and rickety bridges.

[@jameshorigan3322]

Dashing through the snow, In a 350 Chevrolet; Over the hills we go; we'll stay on the road as long as it's straight! 🤣

[@RobertJarecki]

I realize that poor Ed is being roundly criticized in the comments for his French pronunciations. I will add to that some criticism of the very small part about Argentina. IKA is the designation for the automobile manufacturer Industrias Kaiser Argentina, a company put together to manufacture cars in Argentina. The company's first product was the Kaiser Manhattan sold as the IKA Carabela with a sturdier manual transmission. The company later made Ramblers and , IIRC, Jeeps.

[@Aimede]

Nah, it's fine, just what it needs of exaggeration with the French accent

[@carlosmanuelgomez6961]

En Argentina fue la primera fábrica de automóvil, se estado en 1954, comenzó fabricando el Jeep. y el automóvil de lujo Káiser Manatham. luego en el 61" el Rambler hasta el 76, y el Torino , una coupe super sport de Pininfarina

[@edward002gaming]

Fun fact: the French president liked his citroen so much because the DS saved his and his wife's lives. there was gonna be an ambush of gunfire assassination, but the ds still drove off like nothing even tho it was heavily damaged and tires blew out on both sides. it still managed to get him to safety.

[@stephenholland5930]

As featured in the superb film The Day of the Jackal.

[@SUPERMARTINGAMEPLAYS]

IKA TORINO MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️ 🇦🇷🇦🇷🦅🦅🥩🥩🧉🧉🧉⚽🏆🏆🏆🔟🔟🔟 🏆🏆🏆🇦🇷🇦🇷🥩🧉🧉🦅☀️🥩🥩☀️ 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷⚽⚽⚽🧉🏆🧉🧉🦅🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

[@pablorey9203]

mkuchachos...

[@sergiofds1385]

Por fin aparecimos en un video!🇦🇷

[@carlasghost656]

AMC was also very popular in Iran before the 1979 revolution. Ramblers and Hornets were imported as CKD kits and assembled in Tehran and sold under local names.

[@Martin2153]

The RHD Rambler is one of the models assembled from CKD kits in Australia during the 1960s and 70s. The car shown in wearing vintage car number plate on the front. I think it is a NSW state plate. Rambler assembled quite a few models in Australia during those years such as Matador, Ambassador, Javelin, AMX and the Rebel.

[@themopedmetallist]

I like the one toward the end of "Fat Pizza vs. Housos" with the built-in microphone

[@mpetersen6]

I did see a RHD AMX in the States.

[@mpetersen6]

AMC sold RHD cars to the Post Office in the late 60s. I wonder if they just sourced the RHD dash from Oz.

[@johnd8892]

Rambler did not do the assembly in Australia. It was Australian Motor Industries (AMI) at their Port Melbourne assembly factory with some local content input. Australian Motor Industries (AMI) were , at that time, the only Australian owned car company and you could buy shares in them on the Australian stock exchange , unlike Holden , Ford , Chrysler, BMC and the rest. Since AMC was so close to sounding like AMI the AMC make name did not get used in Australia. Also since it took a while to establish the Rambler name as a prestige car for the Australian market. Hence even the Javelin and AMX were the Rambler Javelin and Rambler AMX car in Australia. Australian Motor Industries (AMI) also assembled lots of other makes starting with the Standard Triumph and Ferguson range. Later as well as Standards and Triumph cars they assemble led the Mercedes Benz 220 fintail range and then being the first to assemble Toyotas outside Japan. Toyota liked what AMI produced so much that they bought the company and expanded full production to Altona North. In that process Toyota became the largest Australian exporter of Australian made cars.

[@Martin2153]

@@johnd8892 Yes, you are correct, it was AMI. For the sake of brevity, I didn't mention the company. The point was to highlight the RHD car in the clip and a brief comment about Ramblers in Australia. The Hornet, which I neglected to mention, was probably the most popular model and closest competitor to the Holdens, Falcons and Valiants of the time. There are few Ramblers offered currently on Carsales in Australia.

[@msquaretheoriginal]

One glaring error. The Alliance was re-engineered for the US market and built by AMC in the USA. When Chrysler bought AMC, they stopped production immediately. Not that Chrysler wasn't grateful for Renault's engineering work. The Premier, a larger car based on the Renault 25, was scheduled to go into production in a brand-new plant in Canada. Chrysler marketed it as the Eagle Premier and even rebadged it as a Dodge Monaco. It gave Chrysler the template for two generations of LH cars, which rescued Chrysler from the brink after they ran out of ways to reintroduce the K-car platform. That and two new Jeep models, the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee, made Chrysler a ripe pick for cash-strapped Daimler-Benz, which bled out Chrysler much like Studebaker had done to Packard decades earlier.

[@leonb2637]

There were a number of USA based cars shipped as 'knock downs' for assembly with some local parts added (like tires, special lights). For the UK imported 'American' brand cars and truck models often came from Canadian plants due to the Commonwealth trade advantages. Sometimes US based imports had local engines installed, including diesels, and usually of a smaller size due to road tax based on 'Taxable horsepower'.

[@gclarkbloomfield8848]

….thanks for the best holiday special series about AMC Classic!!…🎅🏽

[@asa1973100]

LOVE THE CHRISTMAS SERIES

[@valentinsittner6414]

Man, i love your videos, now that you mentioned the torino this is my chance to bring it up 😅😅, you should investigate about argentinean automobile history, we had a great automotive industry with a lot of interesting national cars mostly in the 60's, it would make a great episode of automotive history, would love to see it, greetings from Argentina!

[@BillLaBrie]

The Alliance was a rebadged 9 built in Kenosha. Not imported. The Fuego and 18i were sold at the same time and were imported.

[@oaktadopbok665]

You really dig up some doozies! Merry Christmas!

[@themopedmetallist]

AMI in Kangaroo Land assembled RHD versions of AMC products like the '74 Matador coupe, (Roger Penske's "Flying Brick") known there as a Rambler Matador

[@ridezosmon2306]

AMC is more iconic world wide than the big three.

[@jkb2016]

4:25 and 5s, aka LeCar. What they did to it in that A-Team episode puts me off to this day!

[@zincorbie]

Thanks, Ed! I had a ‘65 Classic that was peppy and handled very well. Never knew of the Renault story

[@jasonz7788]

Thanks Ed. Merry Christmas

[@tonywestvirginia]

Thanks Ed. We love ya!

[@pacoelizalde8491]

Would be a cool video the history of ika/amc/renault in argentina. Especially focusing on the torino

[@Dougie1969]

In 1989;i traded my Renault Alliance for an amc rambler and $300. Looking back It was a steal Although, if memory serves me correctly, the Alliance was the only car in my town that got over 30mpg

[@DaveNarn]

Ramblers were built well. I worked at a wrecking yard one summer where we tore them down. The Cadillacs, Lincolns, and Rambler had then best drivetrains

[@stephenmoxley3004]

Yet another great piece, Ed. Keep up the great work.

[@314299]

Nice. My dad had a Rambler here in Canada, I'm unsure of the year as it was before my time, but would have been one of the 1960's models.

[@BillyBoland]

"French baked car sales" -- gotta love how Ed squeezes in these cute innuendos.

[@gauchoriveroo]

Hello, what you do is very good, do you know the history of Kaiser in Argentina? It's very interesting, I hope you make a video about it, thank you!

[@Freedonone]

Had new 1986 AMC Renault 9 Alliance. It was a very good little car. 🚗 I had a 1980 AMC Concord DL. It too was a fantastic automobile.

[@alfinpogform4774]

I really enjoy the peppy intro on these shorts! Oh, and the rest also.

[@allegory7638]

That blue and white Rambler is a good looking car!

[@carlosduro2665]

I'm from Argentina. The Torino, here, it's more than a car: it's a cultural item. Many think of it as the best car ever produced here (and I agree). But, if you want to dig deeper into why it is so, make some research on the surprise that the Torino's team were in 1968 Nürburgring, when this third world made car competed against the best car builders in the world, and in one of the thougest races.

[@OscarFerro]

I'm looking forward for a video about the Torino, it was our best car

[@mrsrmp]

@@OscarFerro there are at least one in France and other in Switzerland owned by collectors, apart from the 380W of Horacio Pagani

[@Raptor3388]

The Alliance and Encore were built in the US, they're quite different than the euro models. Not sure about the Fuego.

[@mossi408]

They were made in Belgium. We got one, a 1963 770 far away in some corner in our compound. They most were made for Taxi support. As I remember it was also used as a one, registered in Herentals (Belgium).

[@rollofffrank2008]

Thanks Ed, Merry Christmas to you!

[@Notthemomma-r3x]

This has been great i look forward to the next.

[@DeaconBlu]

Love these advent vids! 😆 Great stuff mate!

[@luisantolafrancis519]

IKA stands for INDUSTRIAS KAISER ARGENTINA , the KAISER CORP moved its whole operation from the US to Argentina in the late 50s early 60s

[@American-Motors-Corporation]

no Kaiser did not move their entire operation from the United States down there That's wrong they said that up as its own independent company. it was basically the Argentina / international arm of Kaiser Motors. in fact the Argentina arm had different business partners through the years yes AMC did have a hand in it after they had purchased Kaiser Jeep corporation in 1970 however that plan at one point also produced VW bugs they were not just exclusive to Kaiser or AMC products.

[@frankvanderstaay7564]

Merry Christmas from 🇨🇦. Prettige kerstdagen, Ed. Bedankt voor het maken van deze korte video's. Ik geniet er echt van.

[@brunoweinstein]

Make a Torino 🇦🇷 vídeo please!

[@NoXlight29]

Awesome video! The french way to pronounce Citroën is : Sea - trow - en (en of “en”vy ) the english way "sitrun" work too

[@OLDS98]

Thank you Ed. It is appreciated.

[@MacSems]

I enjoyed the video. One correction about the Renault Alliance, it was not imported. They were built in AMC's Kenosha Wisconsin factory.

[@Mike-ot3yg]

The video ended with an image of an AMC dealer that included the Renault Le Car. I was tasked with installing AM radios in a shipment of them on a pier outside of Boston, about 1980. The two-hundred Le Cars were all covered in rust on the pier before they ever made it to the dealer. Unsurprisingly, haven’t seen any on the road here since.

[@joeljohnson3515]

Ed, you’ve been a bright spot on a truly crappy day. Thanks for your calendar ❤

[@dontbeasadsoulja]

A separate video on the Torino would be great. The latin-american cars are always intriguing.

[@3BTruck]

Hellow, very few Rambler in France now. I never had the chance to see one during meetings The most common Frankstein Renault/Chrysler Corp over here is the Jeep Cheeroke with the 2.1 Renault diesel engine. j'adore le mot Camember prononcé en anglais :D

[@mikepibworth7027]

Missed opportunity - Automotive Ed-vent!

[@lucrolland7489]

Renault managed to get the 9, 11, 21 and ultimately the sportive comfortable 25 to be made by AMC as Alliance. Encore, Medaillon and Premier. That last one was probably the best luxury sedan that Chrysler ever sold as it matched the high performance of German cars. I did test the 25 through the Alps and the Premier several times.

[@skypper1969]

We don't play accordéon any more (Except for tourists in Paris) , don't wear berets (Except perhaps in Pays Basque) and never say "Je ne sais quoi" 😡 but the prononciation of Rambrer and Camenbert is quite correct ! 😆😘 from Normandy

[@arielgallo3266]

Yes, the Torino is very popular here in Argentina

[@VanWinger]

You can see some Renault-ish styling cues in the XJ; First generation had the amber signals in the aft, a nod to euro imports.

[@61rampy65]

I have a 1962 issue of Car Life magazine that shows a picture of a 62 Rambler Classic with the Renault badging just below the repeater lamp. The car in that picture looks a *lot* like the Rambler at 1:30. Ed, you have spoiled me, now I need 12 mini episodes each month from now on!

[@southsidetom]

I think that santa is laughing at me and not with me. And that cracks me up!

[@johnd8892]

G'day Ed. Was hoping you would expand a bit on Rambler assembly by Australian Motor Industries (AMI) at their Port Melbourne assembly factory with some local content input. Australian Motor Industries (AMI) were , at that time, the only Australian owned car company, and so you could buy shares in them on the Australian stock exchange , unlike Holden , Ford , Chrysler, BMC and the rest making cars in Australia. Since AMC was so close to sounding like AMI, the AMC make name did not get used in Australia. Also since it took a while to establish the Rambler name as a prestige car, like France, for the Australian market. Hence even the Javelin and AMX were the Rambler Javelin and the Rambler AMX car in Australia. Australian Motor Industries (AMI) also assembled lots of other makes starting with the Standard Triumph and Ferguson range. Later as well as Standards and Triumph cars they assembled the Mercedes Benz 220 fintail range and then being the first to assemble Toyotas outside Japan. Toyota liked what AMI produced so much that they bought the company and expanded full production to Altona North, phasing out other makes earlier. In that process Toyota became the largest Australian exporter of Australian made cars.

[@philbitu]

Even more bizarre: the Argentine IKA Torino kept the underpinnings of the IKA Bergantín, that is, an Alfa Romeo 1900. A crazy mix of American, Italian and French car brands. I wish you a merry Christmas and a prosperous new year.

[@McBeamer94]

Just imagine the reaction of Louie Anderson's dad to this! 😜😂🤣

[@edwardallan197]

Very nice series Ed....❤

[@markrossow6303]

before I started Kindergarten in Mainz (in a Quonset Hut) we lived off the U.S. Army housing area, awaiting a unit to open in the ex-French Zone military quarters ... We lived in a rental "on the economy" = German-owned Our landlords had an R16, & towed a camping trailer with it ...

[@Petelmrg]

I had a RHD 1966 registered Rambler Station Wagon in the UK during the 1980s. Great big slow lump with an amazing lack of space for such a big car. 🙂

[@tomigioioso]

Ed, you should really make a review of the ika torino it has a great story behind it

[@ricksaint2000]

Thank you Ed

[@P_RO_]

"Hey dude, what kind of car is that?" "It's a Ramault." "A what?" "A Renambler." "Huh?" "Your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries. Go away or I'll taunt you again!"

[@e28forever30]

In a John Cleese voice…!

[@pablorey9203]

the Torino has his own interesting story.

[@mpetersen6]

The current Torino race version is powered by a DOHC 24 V version of the AMC/Jeep 4.0. About as "stock"as NASCAR is.

[@pablorey9203]

@@mpetersen6 it is not what I was talking about. BTW is had an interesting version a serious one. CYA.

[@beavcleav3086]

Get off my lawn

[@tomas9830]

specially the 1 2 3 story in the nurburgring

[@maclogan6872]

Yup, have friends in Brittany area of France with one of these, in black.

[@davidwright4537]

Love your channel, keep it up

[@brentfairlie9159]

Interesting. I had know idea about this.

[@forthleft]

A great effort. TY

[@pvt-backpassage9843]

American baked baguette be like: yes yes

[@unclemarksdiyauto]

Some interesting history!