Dies To Removal 14 - The MPL and Magic: The Gathering's Disorganized Play

[@PleasantKenobi]

All three of the combos in the opening skit are REAL. HOWEVER they all require a set number of specific cards to get there - to have them as consistently as it appeared in the skit is magical Christmas land. Legacy has interaction like Force of Will to stop this kind of stuff (and Merfolk does play those) - this is where I said the hand was a "risk" - as it folded hard to Force of Will. Combo 1: Legacy Show and Tell. This combo needed a sol land (Ancient Tomb or City of Traitors) and a Lotus Petal for a free blue mana on turn 1. With this mana you can cast Show and Tell - with Omniscience, Emrakul AND Grisselbrand on turn 1 this is a turn 1 kill. Having all three combo pay-offs is very rare - although Griselbrand DOES allow you to draw 14 cards on turn 1 and dig for the Emrakul to kill with. Combo 2: Modern Neoform Combo. I have made a video for this deck: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLUpaKQe5xpjZI The deck need an extra mana from a Chancellor of the Tangle (or Simian Spirit Guide + Wild Cantor) in order to cast Neoform on turn 1. You need to be able to cast your Allosaurus Rider on turn 1, by exiling two other green cards (1 can be the original Chancellor your revealed, but the other needs to be a green card that isn't the Rider or the Neoform). Once you Neoform Allosaurus Rider into Girsselbrand, you draw 14 cards, and then use Nourishing Shoal exiling Autchoton Wurm or extra Chancellor of the Tangles to gain more life, and draw more cards. We then kill our opponents by using three Simian Spirit Guides to cast Lightning Storm or Seismic Assault, and then kill with the lands we drew being fired at our opponents face. Como 3: UR EDH (Niv-Mizzet perhaps). We cheesed it and went with a Show and Tell combo again (see legacy above) - Omniscience is a broken magic card - Enter the Infinite is an easy way to draw your entire deck - the Kiki-Jiki and Zealous Conscripts (or Pestermite or Deciever Exarch) is infinite creatures and infinite damage. Please don't use this skit as a way to say "I hate X format" - because there is counterplay to all these combos - including simply having the combo not occur or fold to variance. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[@Fly-ik6kg]

I hope everyone reads this before they comment

[@fergusbolton2804]

Agree except in the case of neoform. What could’ve prof done against that on the draw in the vast majority of modern decks. Think it’s got to go even if it’s not that good.

[@PleasantKenobi]

@@fergusbolton2804 I am in agreement with you - it's the most egregious of the three shown here.

[@Firebrand117]

Force of negation is a thing now right? So that's a little bit of counter play

[@adriandelpozo9607]

@@fergusbolton2804 have you ever heard about force of negation?

[@TWilko234]

I don't think vince has won 3 games of magic in a row in his life

[@PleasantKenobi]

:P

[@TWilko234]

[@ChilleDINJerseY]

Haha got emmm

[@VectornautIsLive]

Everybody loves an underdog, lol

[@Lucarioguild7]

TWilko234 Boom roasted

[@Meeeeeeeeeeees]

As a new Magic player, there is one thing I might add. When I told people at my LGS I wanted to play Magic but didn't know where to start, they told met to start with Arena, since it's cheap and teaches you the game etc... I thought it was boring (especially in comparison to other, real life, cardgames I've played before) so I almost didn't want to go play Magic. It just had a 'linear' feeling to it and I was bored within the hour... Then I went to my first prerelease (which was actually a tournament, but there was a beginner's pool) and I had a blast! I finished with a 2-0-2 record (two draws because we all played still very slow haha) what was good for 2nd place (out of 9 beginners). It was such a good experience! I think the face-to-face social experience of playing (an interactive game of) Magic is its most important feat for many people.

[@mrantihippie]

Arena is ' Magic the Gathering ' minus the ' gathering ' bit. I'll stick to luxury paper.

[@GeekandGlory]

I have played both Arena (a lot of it) and paper magic and now that FNM is becoming a thing again, I am getting extra excited for paper magic because there is something special about handling the cards and physical sleeves and seeing real people. I believe Arena is a great way to learn and practice (I have improved A LOT as a player and deck builder from arena) but it will never completely replace paper magic. Tho I do think it is a good tool for play testing decks before investing in all the cards.

[@lightfz]

The skit was very good.

[@PleasantKenobi]

Thank you!

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Cheers!

[@xXNoFateXx]

Brilliant

[@akbarrmd7714]

Such a disgusting combos.nice games🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@akbarrmd7714]

@@TolarianCommunityCollege by the way.nice socks.

[@tks827]

The combo in the opening skit is just like the Yu-Gi-Oh but Yu-Gi-Oh have more method to search their deck to make sure they get all the key card to otk.

[@labtumcm]

Which is why I no longer play yugioh.

[@Starbird1022]

@@labtumcm I mean yugioh can be fun if you enjoy playing uninteractive games that end within three turns. I don't, but a lot of people do. It's also why I don't play modern. Local meta is spikey and combo-heavy. Got real sick of dying turn 2-3 before casting anything relevant.

[@darylchiu9030]

This is why I don't play competitively, whether it is Magic or Yugimons. Too many non-games brought about by FTKs even with Force of Will levels of disruption.

[@SFTortoise]

I love the "same room" interaction- feels more genuine and I want more of it!

[@travisbrandt8663]

Super Fast Tortoise a wish i could thumbs this up 100 times

[@SFTortoise]

@@travisbrandt8663 Here! Here!

[@Lucarioguild7]

Super Fast Tortoise Yeah Vince stay in the land of guns and burgers the closest we’ll get to Brexit is Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@engilaru]

This comment has aged well.

[@thefrozengoat]

hahaha - "FUN WILL BE HAD BY ALL" made me crack up!

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

I really, really enjoy both the comedic and the intellectual synergies between you two. You have such different personas, but they happen to meld in such a great way. Keep up the good work!

[@colespivak1793]

Prof you are killing it with the lighting. Can you tell us about your setup for interviews?

[@VexylObby]

The Peter Adkinson episode had pretty bad lighting, this is a big improvement for sure.

[@ultimateo621]

Mull to a force of. Neoform is actually a pretty good matchup for Merfolk.

[@GamerdevilPro]

Force of Negation is pretty good versus that kind of stupid stuff yeah

[@zachary3367]

On game 2 sure, you dont know it's going to be neoform shenanigans on game 1

[@dimanarinull9122]

@@zachary3367 and that is exactly why I don't bother playing with anyone known to pull this kind of thing. just not playing magic is more fun then dealing with the slow playing SSS in arena or the turn 0 SSS in the older formats(even in F***ing modern now). I will go play some stupid giant leaders game or some casual-EDH that can at least move to turn 6 before turning into a crap-fest of instakills(if you have buildup for it, it feels earned and other people at least played their decks and have a chance of interaction through multiple turns)

[@Hidewrath]

Everyone talking about the opening skit while I just want to talk about Professors amazing socks. c:

[@johngleeman8347]

Every shot with them you can't look away.

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

Hidewrath They tap for the sixth colour of Magic 😉.

[@aaronhooker7588]

I had to mention it too!

[@adambriton5394]

There quite fabulous

[@KyeGuard]

Heyyyyyy Brother! These socks are amazing!

[@TheBicycleSpoke]

The quality of this content just feels so much higher. Great work guys :)

[@epicfail9271]

That opening skit was pure gold, love your face through it prof!

[@davidengkent7756]

My favourite bit from the opening sketch is Prof's delivery of "Fun will be had by all."

[@NG-NeutralGood]

My favorite part was prof’s look when Vince was drawing all those cards off of grizzlebrand

[@kimnowell603]

Starting the episode with a 5 minute skit. That’s bold. Liked

[@ericcook7961]

I like that you two are able to be in the same room for a couple episodes

[@iiGiacomo]

I love the idea that Vince, the builder of Modern Horse Tribal, Mono Blue Minotaurs, and Wall Storm is a spike

[@Kajemby]

And don't forget dragon ball bees and mono red tron!

[@imperialtutor8687]

There should be a clear distinction between "celebrity" Championships and league play. It shouldnt be that hard to do.

[@ultimateo621]

I only care about “Mythic Championships” when there is a merfolk player doing well.

[@redstonepro5412]

why do you write "Mythic Championship" in quotation marks ? thats definitly the best name wizzards have ever invented ^^

[@ultimateo621]

Der Redstone_Pro, Umm... SHARKTOCRAB!

[@jonigazeboize_ziri6737]

Fish or fail.

[@xXNoFateXx]

This is the greatest MTG related content currently being produced. Thank you both. Sincerely, A dedicated player, and now, viewer.

[@Volkain10]

Also it's embarrassing that third party tournaments are better run than the official ones

[@TheMetallingOne]

those plays in the intro skit is how it goes for me every time i try to get back into yugioh and join a random match with my basic warrior deck

[@dartmoncometh]

The heart of the cards are with this man.

[@frankied.2828]

How to play fair magic in Commander. Step 1: Make new Lavinia your Commander Step 2: Give her protection

[@fidly4]

Professor said the words "Merit League" and no one made a Marit Late joke. 0/10

[@guybrushftw]

I'm pretty sure the criteria is "You're popular somewhere else and may bring in that sweet money from other games."

[@felixbillington6151]

Vince lives in magical Christmas land

[@haydonali4169]

anybody notice the prof holding his cards upside-down in the opening skit?

[@DrivablePig607]

I really like The Professor's socks. They r very bright and I want some. They look really cool 😀

[@silvanwegenast8695]

They made it so I couldn't quite focus on what he was saying

[@faxmachine1162]

It's probably telling that I have died to his specific combo, huh?

[@andrewpayseur]

@31:13 Kenobi and the Prof are hitting on something I've wanted to institutionalize at my LGS, specifically for commander. On Wednesdays, we have an ENORMOUS turnout for commander. It's ludicrous. I've seen 12 full pods of folks with multiple decks within the past month multiple weeks. Unfortunately, people tend to "clique up," and it's hard to play with new folks because matches start at random. Everyone plays different kinds of decks at any given moment, and the power level changes from game to game, but not uniformly amongst players in the same pod. : Kenobi mentioned my favorite way to organize play for Commander, and it involves league play, record keeping, seeding, and *RELEGATION.* If people wanted to play for a season (lets say it's 6 weeks), they have to play (if they choose to be involved) one specific commander for league play. In the first actual "Commander Open" everyone would play as "the field," and after a few weeks of play they could then be ranked amongst similarly ranked decks. Eventually, the leagues would stabilize and people would be able to play in a league and the wins and losses would mean something because it would keep casual players playing with whomever was in the lowest league (the Open League), and the progressively higher tier decks would have balanced competition. : There's intricacies that need to be ironed out such as "What if a player combos off and the other three in the pod simultaneously lose?", or, "Is it a W-L based system, or is it a points based system?" As popular as Commander is, there is room for a thoughtful and competitive space.

[@brningpyre]

Making it Swiss over time is a fun way to go about it. You play different people around the same win rate as you, and you can offer prizes for winning without penalizing people who lose a lot (since they'll be playing with other people who are losing a bunch).

[@kai-parker76]

@@brningpyre That sounds fun. My LGS does a point system. Punished mass land destruction, taking bonus turns beyond the first bonus turn, making infinite amount of anything. While creativity gets you points such as building a deck with flavor of the month, bonus points for playing cards from [x] block that week, doing something janky (gain 50 life, shuffle your graveyard into your deck twice this game, mill half your opponents deck) which varies each week. Then there is getting normal combat points for first blood, taking out players, doing exact damage etc. At the end of the month you can also win by being voted "favorite deck of the month". At the end of every round players vote for a deck they liked to face or found interesting, you can't vote for yourself. So there is 2 winners at the end of the month. 5$ per month to enter. Which isn't bad if you are thinking of it as renting a space to play every month. With chances of prices. Plus getting Friday Night Promos was pretty sweet as well.

[@thewitchsfamiliar]

My mother: "Why is Griselbrand banned?" Me: "this is why" (shows the skit)

[@nharviala]

You have a mom who knows Griselbrand is banned? I'd be impressed if she didn't ask why.

[@mrchuckmorris]

Because he's a nasty human being and ruins every movie he's in! Except for Hop... that one was bad already.

[@darylchiu9030]

Where is GriselBanned? Yeah, I'll do you one better. Who is GriselBanned? I'll do YOU one better!! Why is GriselBanned? :V

[@luispolanco5966]

Daryl, get the fuck out

[@thewitchsfamiliar]

@@nharviala I am teaching my mother Magic. I haven't shown her Griselbrand yet so this is a partial joke

[@Starfury117]

Best intro skit ever. Considering I saw Vince not go off on the neoform combo in Modern, a while back, this was a nice change of pace.

[@3laveen]

you are my favorite creator on this platform, the platform created out of the futility of trying to find a video of janet jackson's performance at the big american football match of 2004.

[@raydelmartinez2905]

Great episode. The socks are on point by the way.

[@grinreaperoftrolls7528]

🤣that opening skit is like watching yugioh players (why I switched to mtg - specifically commander and oathbreaker. Specifically oathbreaker)

[@rykersixx]

I know that feeling man. When my friend killed me before I had a turn in yugioh multiple times in a row I dropped the game.No interaction = No fun

[@rawpower2025]

As someone who loved and played Yugioh for like 3 to 4 years I agree with this, for me it just got too non interactive and I slowly started not liking it each match I played. So I switched to MTG.

[@elrockerchido]

Grin Reaper Of Trolls i was thinking to get started in MTG... this video bump me down

[@antoniomarino9444]

20 minutes combo in the first turn. Super fun

[@rawpower2025]

@@antoniomarino9444 oh boy I sure do love playing the first round of a yugioh local tournament, what do you mean I won't get a single turn?

[@KPX01]

For me competitive play should have qualifier/progressing just like what other competitive sports/game has done, if they want diversity or whatever they could have just made something like streamer all star or just invitee as a new show etc.

[@BriefcaseSam]

@TCC in the future i think it would be cool to play a round of magic with your guest.... maybe another video? I think it would be cool

[@bethesdamaniac5361]

"FUN WILL BE HAD BY ALL!" Absolutely perfect 🤣

[@joeljohnson4073]

Thanks for the amazing content as always!

[@ZubairMojaddedi]

Great subjects and discussions recently. Love this show Prof.

[@ryandecraene6432]

I've been really impressed with what Star City Games has done with coverage and articles. I am not the most invested in competitive magic, but I can name a dozen players and I have a feel for who they are and the styles of decks they play.

[@BanColPan]

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[@GizmoMcs]

I just play magic arena rn but I just can't get myself to watch recorded games on magic arena that don't even show the players, and games don't mean anything, and i used to watch all gps, pro tours, and scg tours.

[@glenalexander4640]

Invitational also as a celebrity event where the price pool for charity. One celeb and one pro two headed giant

[@whitecheddar1972]

Opening was hilarious! Loved it! Everything said in this video is so true. Wotc should just copy SCG: Leaderboards, IQs, Opens, Invitationals, Players Championship. It’s a clear road map and SCG is on stream every Major tournament where you can follow your favorite SCG grinder.

[@TainyaGaming]

Combos like that have happened to me enough that I got pissed just watching the skit.

[@thefrozengoat]

I listen to a lot of podcasts - from business, real estate and finance to games, news and comedy. This is one of my favorites.

[@ghosthendrikson]

Professor, your sock game is STRONG! Mad respect, Sir.

[@SirNarax]

This Kenobi guy gets it. The one thing that is missing from Magic is wrestler style introductions. The Professor walks onto the stage with his professor outfit throwing bananas at people, shouting "I'm the Professor!"

[@sehinshaw38]

This skit was so far above the previous skits that I'm left hopeful this will become the new norm.

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

That’s the plan!

[@aspecialchicken9758]

Asking for a framework is certainly not too much; managing expectations is fundamental aspect of PR that Wizards must engage in.

[@nyvar]

Thank you for existing, Prof.

[@NapalmJustice]

@1:31 I love the hand of upside-down cards. XD

[@weemingneo5155]

Jake Boss!! So nice to see him in the skit.

[@seanbaumann8825]

Best opening yet! Does not discount the fact that the other openings are still good haha.

[@noneyobiz9707]

The modern artifact opening is good too" much shorter though"

[@stoyanstoyanov7917]

I mean - Magic has always been interactive and fun! xD That skit hurts my soul, but it was funny!

[@op1ekun81]

A brilliant episode guys :D I usually play casually with friends, and play at prerelease, and FNM from time to time. I have not known the things are so pad, but I have to admit I miss the event coverage :(

[@austinhazelett6290]

Two of my favorite content creators. Cheers!

[@scholarofthelosttrove]

i love you to bits man and have massive respect for what you do, but FUCK that bump in volume right at the end with that 8 bit outro song, had your video on at a reasonable volume the whole way then woke the floors above and below me at the end. but overall great content as always, but i especially love your videos with the 'instructor' character and nasty edh builds, really funny stuff.

[@lukek.5773]

i have a way to solve this, here me out: teams each team has some form of criteria for it's rank general player competitions: there will be local game (lgs level), sector games (rougly 3-5 voting districts in the US), state (idk a better term), nationals or continental-regional (in areas with small nations), finally continentals and worlds. WotC will have various levels of involvement, having worlds be the final competition shortly after the completion of a block. teams will be given 6 seats with every invitational inviting. teams will have to qualify as a whole, with seat players determine the majority of the standing. additionally players can join these large teams as some form unaffiliated popularity counters. teams will have an unrelated stat for their fans, people that directly support their team by being "part of it" can earn prizes from wotc for playing well on a team that is doing well, or just by being in the top X% of fans of a given team. this incentivizes knowing more about major events.

[@noahari5442]

The prof holding his cards upside down at 1:30 was a nice touch

[@Illusive1313]

MPL = Magic Promotional League. Simple as that.

[@seroni17]

With the number of views they are getting they ought to fire the promoter

[@iPhailepically]

@@seroni17 people watch the MPL?

[@fatpad00]

Split into a pro league and invitational series. Invitational follows a similar format to the existing. 2 or 3 times a year invite 16 or 32 community personalities, with no more than 20% back to back invites. Pro league is 30 paid slots, all tournament performance based. Each tournament, 2 slots go to invites, first for the winner of the invitational, and one wildcard.

[@blazeku]

Wow, I have to know where they sell blue-backed sleeves that look red from the front! ;) Great skit guys!

[@Harder-s_Herald]

Just throwing this out there, I like making what I call a pocket decks, 30 cards limit, 1 casting cost or less limit on cards, 1 max limit per card name (excluding basic lands), any card printed, it’s for fun, and have tried a couple of games but haven’t gotten far with game play, anyways you make fun content professor and I thank you

[@justins7711]

As a player since Alara block that has had a few "drought periods", I do 100% agree on the importance of high quality consistent coverage of events. The MPL is nice but doesn't capture the essence of the game the way coverage of a GP does. And when I'm on a spurt of being out of the game for a while, the one thing that has consistently brought be back has been watching coverage multiple weekends in a row. Good consistent PLAYER CENTRIC coverage has always got me itching to play some magic again.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

This all reminds me of how the smash Bro’s own splintered community eats eachother about who Belongs and who doesn’t and there’s barely any talk about the actual establishments like Nintendo and whoever takes care of those tourneys

[@ThrabenValiant]

Lol, the closed captions almost make more sense than the actual combos!

[@fridayparson]

I love these long form video chats.

[@ПавелКарев-с8г]

Welcome to our world guys! Here the cards cost the same but the only event you can go to is FNM and an occasional PPTQ a couple times a year.

[@renatovicencio9693]

I feel you guys missed going into how competitive play helps keep the game design in check. Maintaining a standard of quality for how the game is made is really important and a competitive play environment generates a lot of important information and discussion. It's a loss for everyone if the game doesn't have any checks and balances.

[@conniebarnett5089]

Here's how I'd reorganize tournament play: 1. there would be two leagues (32 players each) one would be the top mythic points earners from the previous year and the other is whatever streamers, content creators, etc. that they want to represent the brand. 2. At the start of each year mythic points would reset to 0 3. The pro league and the streamer league would get invites to all mythic championships and worlds 4. There would be Arena MCQs and Paper MCQs (both awarding mythic points) which would give you an invite to the next Mythic Championship 5. At the end of the year there would be a worlds which would invite all pro league and streamer league players and the winners of the mythic championships from the year (just like how LOL has a worlds every year) 6. the pro league wouldn't be responsible for having the streaming contracts, that would be the purpose of the streamer league (they would sign a contract saying they will stream magic a certain number of times each week or something like that). the pro league people would just be responsible for doing the best they can in tournaments

[@johnroyston3859]

That very first opening hand lol 😂 GG!!!

[@diversezebra6754]

An entire episode of staring at those socks.....they were ignored the ENTIRE EPISODE......but I was validated in the last 30 seconds. I am content today.

[@CalebAstle]

Best skit ever

[@joestmann1]

Wizards should watch this. I played for the love of the game and the dream to be in the Magic hall of fame. Things have really changed, but Wizards must have a larger and more meaningful goal for playing, or Magic will die.

[@grasshopper1153]

Agreed James. They are banking on casuals and this strategy will be the death of Magic. Look at Fantasy Flight and their games like Android Netrunner. Netrunner is a living card game which means it is not a CCG. In concept, this is cool because the focus is more on getting into the game and without the RNG of pack cracking, collecting the cards is much cheaper. In practice however, the game is essentially dead from what I have seen and other living card games created by Fantasy Flight are dead as well like Lord of the Rings and Warhammer Invasion, etc. The games just did not really take off. There were not regular tournaments at my LGS's in my area and these LGS's sold the product. So if people want to know what happens when a game goes full casual in paper, just look at the living card games.

[@GoldenRuleHomes]

Just a question: I'm one of the 'olds' who doesn't know anything about the monetization of e-sports like League of Legends, etc. But when I look at individual sports like tennis, golf, etc, it seems to me that for the tours in question have a set number of pros that exclusively participate in their tour events, with opportunities for the common man to qualify - either for specific events (the US Open) or for the tour itself (Q-School, ATP Challenger Tour). At no time are any of these people compensated directly by the USGA, or the ATP, or whomever the sanctioning body is except through the amount that they win in a tournament. The top pros make a chunk of their money from winning/finishing high in events, but make even more money through sponsorship. Mid-tier players basically eat what they kill in tournament winnings with minimal sponsorship money to meet basic expenses, and then the bottom of the tour are people just hanging on and trying to spike something to try to get into one of those tiers. And for grinders below, there's a very clear path on how to get there. It seems like WOTC might have had something similar to above structure, just maybe a little bit more opaque but wanted to dump a bunch of money into a select number of players to eliminate the peaks and valleys of income (and maybe exert a little control over those people, as employees). Why not just implement something like the system above? It would seem to eliminate a lot of controversy. Or is there not enough money to make this economically feasible? I understand millions were apparently dumped into player salaries for the MPL, but have no idea if that same amount of money would be sufficient to support a pro tour, even if they were able to squeeze out sponsorship money from all of the affiliated business interests that rely on card players. What am I missing?

[@stormcrow4202]

1:31 Professor holding his cards upsidedown ver nice

[@ShadoryKaine]

1:31 Professor's hand is upside down I love it

[@Tempest_Murder]

The opening DTR Skits could probably be their own series

[@moxavenger]

I love that you guys are so relaxed you have no shoes!

[@drewjn]

Honestly, that opening skit was practically half my games when I first started 10 years ago. Currently, don't see that as often, save for one or two tryhards trying to do that with proxies. A lot of people I know that actually own vintage/legacy try to keep it more casual, unless even matchups.

[@jepac8595]

Jake looked genuinly insulted and disgusted at Vince in the intro. Great stuff

[@smollproduction3787]

Thank you for your get friends to play vid.I played starter decks with him.I remember getting secretly fustrated when he couldnt understand mana. So I said this card needs 1 red credit and 4 any crefit.I let him win.then beat him 2nd round. It was fun.

[@TherapyForNarhwals]

I feel this comes from something you posted on Facebook... just from the intro I mean 😂

[@doriancostley9075]

The professor holding his cards upside-down in that skit. Gotta love the little things. lol

[@germanyjones2700]

Lol came back for that intro, wonderful stuff

[@ThisIsFro]

Professors hand when they started modern was all upside down. Triggered me to no end.

[@DarkPaladin1130]

Prof...You should do straight up skit episodes . It's comedy gold!

[@TheFilthyCasual]

the only course of action when in Prof's Position is invoking the Soldiers card and going for real lethal.

[@anthonygspp3]

Opening skit was AMAZING loved it! couldnt stop laughing

[@dragonlord8582]

Great video i think you 2 hit the nail on the head. And I cant wait for my PK better lucky than good t to show up.

[@swampking666]

They need to take apart competition from promotion. Both serve the same purpose, but have different aproaches.

[@kenta7178]

1:32 , Prof Holding his cards up-side down.

[@blakewilliams8148]

Lightning storm does 3 damage + 2 for each land you pitch to it not 3 damage per land so Vince didn't actually kill Prof there

[@B1rd0fpr3y]

Futhermore the Prof could have discarded lands in order to change the target to Vince :)

[@Kuronosa]

When you draw 28 cards, you most likely have more than just that many lands.

[@blakewilliams8148]

@@Kuronosa not the point of my comment though. all I'm saying is that due to Vince misreading lightning storm the amount of lands he discarded to it were insufficient to kill Prof and you can't discard more once you pass priority so if Prof has removal he wins (most likely)

[@B1rd0fpr3y]

@@Kuronosa Lets say the prof kept a 3 land hand. Then Kenobi must have 12 lands to deal lethal dmg to the prof. So its not impossible that the prof might have made it :)

[@mmckenzie1900]

The opening skit reminded me of my past weekend of magic playing at anime expo. Ran into a lot of turn two wins with my poor little standard deck when I played in the modern games. Wasn’t the best way to come back into the game but I’m glad people had fun beating me. Haha!

[@czzy9468]

That's kinda why formats exist, and the only decks that *actually* win on turn two are Neobrand or weird builds of Devoted Druid, both would be stupidly inconsistent. It's anecdotal

[@toxicmolecules3461]

i couldn't think of a more cushier job than sitting around in my socks talking about magic....wtf am I watching lmao. I was hooked into watching from the funny beginning.

[@apuckingfanda709]

We need to get Rudy into the Invitational

[@PaulissVegan]

would be fun but I think he won't accept anyway

[@davidhenry1421]

The loss of competitive play isn’t bad for wizards, it is bad for LGSs. As a player who has been there for 25 years, I enjoy both competitive and casual play. I can tell you without a doubt that the groups I formed in a casual style have attracted 4 times as many players, the players stick around more, and they come back more often. The issues this cause for LGSs comes from the fact that we don’t play with their goods or at their shop. We can buy sealed products online at play on our own schedule. With so many new players despite the lack of interest in competitive magic, it speaks to itself why wizards will eventually stop supporting competitive magic all together. Did Kaladesh ruin standard? We didn’t go out and buy dozens of singles so we never realized. We drafted it a bunch, one person in our group had a powerful energy deck, but it wasn’t a competitive level deck so my hours red blue deck could blow it out of the water. Since rotation isn’t a thing in casual play, many other decks competed as well and we are off to the new set. Maybe someone will make something cool. See? No frustration, just a game that we have learned to enjoy after leaving the scene of FNMs, PTQs, and GPs. Not a single person who has experienced both has shown any interest in going back, because magic night is and always will be the best night of the week.

[@Danny.._]

I wonder if Peter Adkinson regrets it _now,_ after they've destroyed organized play