Diesel Brothers react to judge fining them over $850,000

Diesel Brothers react to judge fining them over $850,000

[@Groundpounder91]

You know who doesn't have any emissions equipment, every piece of equipment in the U.S. Military.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Yup,it's more of the usual government line of :do as I say not as I do.

[@glennedwards1449]

Actually tank guns do since the use of depleted uranium rounds is a big no no in the EU and Cat converters must be fitted to even military equipment.

[@glennedwards1449]

@LogicalSense FACTS Well when they lose to an invading army at the cost of thousands of dead at least the environment won't be polluted for the new owners.

[@randyruppel6727]

Like fucking 903 Cummins in Bradley's lol

[@tmac249gman249]

@LogicalSense FACTS well one could argue that the Cold War or world war 2 attack on Pearl Harbor was an invasion of us soil 🙃

[@juanff2011]

Quick fix, move the whole entire business to texas

[@bobroberts2371]

Nope, they violated federal clean air laws.

[@UncleRobsGarage]

I love texas,but ya they violated federal laws.

[@danieldelgado5469]

@@bobroberts2371 this is true but if they do move to Texas and or Florida and even if they do violate that federal law, that law in these states are not enforced at all. Here in Florida where I live almost every vehicle on the road that's older than 2015 has no catalytic converter, and almost every single diesel truck rolls coal like there's no tomorrow. with no consequence at all

[@bobroberts2371]

Daniel Delgado , the feds don't go after individual people on a federal level due to cost / time constraints, they go after large targets. Going after individual people is the states job if they have laws in place to do so. RE A state can't enforce a Federal law. I wonder how the smoke box people will feel about me throwing rocks at their truck after they smoke out other road users?

[@danieldelgado5469]

@@bobroberts2371it's kind of messed up the amount of smoke they create down here. But can't really do much about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. also I don't recommend throwing rocks because guaranteed 100% of time you will get shot even by people that don't even own the truck

[@PioneerPauly]

*$850,000 goes to the government so they can pollute* 😂

[@MAGGOT_VOMIT]

_It's not even a pollutant. It's solid dry carbon (soot) and it immediately settles on the ground. That ignorant Judge should make all the volcanoes stop erupting then, because as an amateur volcanologist I can tell you just one volcano emmits more greenhouse and toxic gases in just one month, than man has ever produced. xD_

[@Rwalt61]

Another $850,000 for the politicians to blow on a stupid project that doesn't do a damn bit of good.

[@namesdom]

That’s unreal. Too much power from the government

[@tyjohnson7327]

moron

[@PioneerPauly]

@@tyjohnson7327 Oh please elaborate

[@LindaThompson-yf8ph]

My biggest problem is that the government is not required to follow their own rules.

[@Kimo_6.7_x3]

🤬

[@v4lhulme]

Who knew that paying money to the government was the answer to clean air this entire time.

[@grease_monkey9044]

Justin Trudeau knew this... we pay lots of tax for saving the environment! It hasn't done shit except pay for him to fly around the world on vacation, but its the thought that counts

[@Gcanno]

It's to keep Jackasses from thinking they can break the Law , you try sucking down some of that black soot, Furthermore those Idiots shouldn't be in business if they don't have a Clue of what they're doing.

[@rus0004]

Everything is legal, as long as the paperwork checks out.

[@lockman004]

Diesel brothers made big money break the law and they hurt the health of their community. And by televising their disregard for the law and people's health they inspired other scofflaws to do the same. The fine is punitive to punish them and as a deterrent to others that might follow their example.

[@BruceLee-xn3nn]

Big companies do it all the time.

[@jonathanstache1634]

They’re literally blaming two dudes for the pollution in the entire state 😂

[@lilxo7338]

Ik bro the government petty asf

[@Nyctophiliac.]

@adirondacktrail oh boo to the fucking hoo. go cry about your prius getting smoked by a diesel somewhere else.

[@frankcox748]

All our vet test facilities are gone here in KY. I have a 16 ram with everything deleted. 5" pipe all the way back from turbo...lol and no one cares🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tmwall25]

man if the feds only knew about the pollution a private jet dumps in the stratosphere......

[@tmwall25]

@@frankcox748 biden is gonna care.... $12 a gallon for diesel... your deleted days are numbered.

[@coloradofarmer]

How about you fine the politicians and celebrities that have private jets that burn more fuel in one trip than these guys burn in a year

[@uh1c-chiefna996]

Lessee'. . . .celebrity (check), politician (check), private jet (check). Donald J. Trump

[@nicolec7290]

Yes yes yes.

[@sendingit2601]

@@uh1c-chiefna996 sure... I mean if you want to single out one person... but thats not really his point dumbass.

[@russellspencer5147]

uh1c-chief n/a why did you pick out him instead of bernie who advocates for the green new deal yet still pollutes the earth more than the average american

[@matthewhiser628]

@@uh1c-chiefna996 LET'S see. You're(check). A (check). Fucking (check). Idiot (check).

[@zaydizzle]

And now we know that the EPA overstepped their legal authority when they bypassed congress and set their own standards. HeavyD should sue for wrongful persecution.

[@Oop_0000]

Authority is granted to them by congress to set the standards

[@destinhook3826]

Yes

[@gmcxm211]

100% wrong! First, its the states responsibility to have a "pollution standard guideline", each state had one since the 1960s, before the EPA became a federal agency. That's why each state will have different EPA laws. The federal government also has a set of EPA standards, which are below the state's guidelines. The Diesel Brothers were violating both state and federal standards. True diesels, produce significantly lower emissions over gasoline cars what the violation was about black smoke it was producing, the ash. The clean air act, addresses both visual and chemical content the exhaust. Back in the 1980's when I was stationed in Germany All the major cathedral's steeples were solid black as if these were painted black. It was because of all the diesel cars not having the smoke. And the burning of coal in apartment buildings. Now days after they sand blasted all the crud off the steeples, these steeples are staying clean.

[@critshot4694]

Prosecution or persecution... two entirely different meanings, I think you mean the first.

[@coastalturn]

perspiration in the meantime lol

[@countryboycoins]

The government cares about the air quality?? That’s hilarious.

[@howdythere2419]

They only “care” when it means they can fine people and rake in money. But the gov will pollute whenever they want.

[@howdythere2419]

@J Á Ç K TM YT They really dont care about the environment. These government officials will fly on a private jet to accept an environmental award for telling us not to drive a diesel truck.

[@beezythegamer]

I hate the government 😤😑

[@ROLLIN-DUB]

@J Á Ç K TM YT young man that’s not true- you need to get out more or educate yourself a bit more. If the guvment cared about air quality why have they closed coal burning plants. Go to Indiana or Ohio and you’ll find at least 7 in a 30 mile radius. We, just in America have tons of ULAB’s, Mining and Ore Processing plants, Lead Smelting plants, Tanneries and Industrial Dump site all over major cities. Just those factions alone produce and have been producing and still are producing more toxins in the earth’s atmosphere than any truck on the road today and before. Your fight isn’t with the trucks it’s with those companies that receive HUGE tax breaks from the guvment that destroy our air quality for generations lol.

[@ROLLIN-DUB]

@J Á Ç K TM YT it does but I don’t have the time to educate the uneducated. Thank you- good bye

[@dualsportnation751]

So 90% to the feds, and 10% to the location “supposedly” effected…. Sounds fair

[@SuburbanFarmer96]

that 90/10 split is actually fair because 90% would be federal fines predetermined by law and 10% would be local fines set by law.

[@kanaloakalaluhi9307]

Y does fed need money wen money doesnt fix pollution

[@SuburbanFarmer96]

@@kanaloakalaluhi9307 its not that the fed needs money to fix pollution but that people like these guys need to understand there are consequences for violating a federal emissions law

[@aidanlutz8106]

@@kanaloakalaluhi9307 actually, some pollution can be fixed by just throwing money at the problem.

[@michaelmhm959]

@@SuburbanFarmer96 So instead they want them to put the systems that actually cause more pollution and more harmful pollutants? DPF is worse for the air than not having one. The soot burned off in the regen process is almost 1.4x as harmful as if they were to allow the diesels to "roll coal," don't fall in to trap of thinking it's a valid punishment, it's not, its a money grab.

[@virtualfpv3568]

Plot Twist: $850k goes to jet fuel for US air force training events causing 10x more pollution again.

[@davidplatenkamp]

That's 25 hours flying an F22.

[@Gachalifeluver_1122]

I do believe jet fuel is less harmful to the environment than diesel. Highlight to the story. We altered a few trucks to preform better. Why... Because we were paid to do so. So we built or are working on an electric version of a diesel motor. Ya that part makes everything better. These guys are hacks at best. When it first started they built junk. Sponsors stepped up and now their builds are a little more of a quality build.

[@mos3362]

Jet fuel is diesel 🤦🏻‍♂️ all the same shit

[@Ethan-zk4nu]

Stfu with this who air pollution shit wtf do you expect it’s a diesel truck that spit mad black smoke so all of you city folk need to shut the fuck up about pollution

[@Seanj5216]

Killing innocent Muslim civilians go brrr .... :/

[@oologahnorthernrailroad8873]

I just love how the government and the EPA don’t target aviation, and maritime, but they’ll target trucks, farm equipment, and railroad equipment!

[@kuqie1]

There is a diffefence if fumes spread near living area and in the middle if the ocean

[@ThatOneKiidThere]

And the "railroad equipment" comment didn't age well, since there's been multiple derailments because of negligence brought on by rail companies. I works for CN rail and I've never worked with such a penny pinching bunch of scammers,

[@aleksanderhilst-olsen2804]

@@kuqie1 barely any difference as all these fumes goes up into the stratosphere

[@kuqie1]

@@aleksanderhilst-olsen2804 i lived in a big city and in the countryside, you can definitley notice the difference. Gas fumes go up, but you can still smell them while they linger a bit

[@bjjpenguin]

That’s because they hate working class and rural people

[@hypergarage8595]

Only %10 of that money actually goes to the state they’re “polluting”. The other %90 goes to the government? Shady.

[@Mike-In-O-Town]

Commonly referred to by mobsters (i.e. the model the government aspires to) as a shake down. The federal government is the biggest criminal organization in the world.

[@hypergarage8595]

Amed Tajan what are you talking about? I didn’t do any math. I simply took what they said in the video and said it was shady.

[@BiffsEquipment]

Thought the EXACT same thing

[@jc-ne5en]

This is common. We are not free our government just wants us to think we are

[@nonterrestriaI]

And only 3% of that money will actually be spent on the problem.

[@lf3106]

There's no emissions regulation for any military equipment, aviation, any kind of big ships-containers, cruise lines, trains etc etc.

[@Train_Tok_Man]

No, trains do have emission regulations. Look up your answer on Google before making a assumption.

[@dylanzrim3635]

@@Train_Tok_Man heavily relaxed regulation. A diesel train would pump out more black smoke than all of the Dbros vehicles

[@Train_Tok_Man]

@@dylanzrim3635 That’s because the engines in the locomotives are large, but they are still very strict on locomotive manufacturers on emissions.

[@lukasbeblow498]

@@dylanzrim3635 there also pulling over 10 million pounds and they are regulated

[@jonathanturek5846]

When you pollute your killing your childrens and their childrens and so on future planet. Polluting and trashing the only place we have to live is the meaning of ignorance. I hope we all can use cleaning up the planet and restoring a kind of life styles and practices not damaging our planet and in that process like sports can ne a way for all of us to unite ! For a good and necesary cause benefiiting everyone and everything

[@polardabear]

When the government finds out that somebody has money

[@codyshowalter7128]

Lmfao your phot and name RIGHT next to a comment that defends/discredits pollution

[@polardabear]

@@codyshowalter7128+ the irony

[@davidpainter6940]

When idiots film bad emissions and air it nationally what do you expect. They narked on themselves. Now they are crying

[@codyshowalter7128]

@@davidpainter6940 precisely recording criminal activity then polarizing it on every social media platform probably isn’t this best idea.

[@jackolson6924]

alllllllll it is. fuck commies.

[@lesterpenner8786]

So money just cleans the air magically? 😂

[@djverhulst]

typical way of thinking of green liberals ......

[@kennethbrooks1239]

It’s stopped this mf’er from polluting so it seems to work.

[@Dynog]

@@kennethbrooks1239no it’s not they still delete their trucks they just won’t show you anymore

[@JamesAnderson-fw5ew]

@@kennethbrooks1239its not even that much pollution, go after the electric car people whose cars run on coal, liberal

[@aeolusv7611]

@@kennethbrooks1239 Imagine being a 🤡 like you.

[@Cornfed_Off-road]

Perhaps that government should follow diesel school bus and city busses for a day

[@dankronenberg946]

School buses and City buses have particular filters And DEF fluid they have all the emissions compliance I worked on them for 10 years

[@livintheislandlife7561]

REAL TALK RIGHT THERE!!!!

[@Cornfed_Off-road]

@@dankronenberg946 well if that's true then what's the black and sometimes white oily smoke pouring from the exhaust and fumes making it impossible to breath when sitting behind them at stoplights? Seriously if you work at every bus depo in the nation ill accept your answer. And if they get repairs so often why do their brakes squeek so bad?

[@dankronenberg946]

@Corn fed any bus manufacturer after around 2004 or 2005 comes factory with particulate filter and emissions control just like your cars and truck that’s what the government requires for public transportation now if it’s not maintain properly you could have issues of black smoke or white smoke if it’s an older bus before emissions then yeah you’re going to get some black smoke and as far as break squeaky they’re made out of a harder compound some brands squeak Some don’t

[@TeamTopKick]

@@dankronenberg946 i believe its late 2017 to 2018 when they put the new emmisions shit on diesels.

[@unclecurry1615]

“Being fined 851k and 10% of which will go to Davis county” that doesn’t really seem like it’s better for the community as much as it does for the Fed’s

[@martitinkovich4489]

hey, it pays one fatcat's salary.

[@agentone8511]

can i have 5% of that to pay off my student loans? x.x

[@superstar64]

@@agentone8511 Yes you can, according to our current government.

[@Mothafuckenzay]

Do you care for the environment or for the trucks you big Appalachian ape

[@henripan9584]

800K is meant to be a deterrent and to set a precedent. You weren't that dumb to think it was actually to help with clean air after the fact.

[@justycehaynes2960]

The fact they picking on these guys when literally I see at least 1000 deleted diesels a day here in the south, pretty much tells me if the government knows your making money they gonna def get their hand in it and that’s all it’s about

[@jawa1984]

southerners.

[@liammitchell5990]

Justyce Haynes so true legit everyone does a delete on their trucks

[@dagocrazy2]

So 1000 people do the delete in the south so that makes it legal in Utah? Your russian whataboutism is showing

[@dinguskhan6173]

Justyce Haynes Yea same here in utah, fuck I've been dailying my 40 year old truck for months with no fines, watch them fine Nascar even tho they don't even use petrol/diesel gas cuz fuckers don't know shit bout what they're tryna ban.

[@MrCumminsrollincoal]

They know they can’t stop all of us deleted all that bullshit off of our trucks do they are going to target the big boys in the game, PPEI for one just paid 1.5 mil in fines, fuck the government. Straight pipe that bitch

[@mattheweaton1815]

Yeah that 10% goes to the county for emotional damage 🤣

[@tmanlife1234]

Interesting how a doctor is suddenly an expert on diesel engines.

[@derekdlick2516]

Well he's like every other man in world. HE fucking knows everything about cars, he just stands there telling the mechanic how to do his job because he's above working on his own SHIT! (And totally not because doesn't know his head from his ass and I'm saying this because there are as many competent doctors as there are competent mechanics "meaning there aren't very many")

[@davespanksalot8413]

I know right! And why would pixie dust cause the black lung anyway? I mean it's made from unicorns and that can't be bad! Particulate schmarticulate, I'm so tough I snort lines of coal dust for breakfast and I make truckies eat quiche!

[@derekdlick2516]

@@davespanksalot8413 I'm right there with you I mean it can't be any worse smoking weed, cigarettes, vaping chemicals, freebasing crack, smoking meth, snorting blow, smoking bath salts, shooting heroin, snorting fentanyl. You know that shit the Bernie and Obama supporters do.

[@anderswl916x2]

Derek Dlick veterans for Bernie Sanders🇺🇸

[@derekdlick2516]

@@anderswl916x2 I dont believe that bullshit for 1 minute.

[@3DCommando]

So that $850,000 is going to UN-POLUTE the air?? That’s a joke.

[@Horace1993]

It's a punishment and a deterrent, not meant as restitution. That's the purpose of the fine.

[@bitcoochie4093]

@@Horace1993 I️ don’t thinking he understands the concept of punishment

[@Sheridantank]

@@Horace1993 You don't think $50k would be a deterrent? Why not just go all the way to capital punishment for theft too? Since we can fine people life ruining amounts for this nonsense. You know, because it's a punishment and deterrent.

[@geddon436]

Maybe its about figuring out "how much money can I take from this person, hurting them fiancially, but not enough to put them in bankruptcy"

[@PURENT]

@@Sheridantank A $50k fine to a group of millionaires with their own reality TV show is hardly a deterrent.

[@jrm88382]

Funny how only 10% of the fine went to the "affected area" and the government got the rest doesn't seem like there that concerned with the air quality in Utah there just concerned with lining there wallets

[@__WJK__]

Now this I can agree with!

[@haroonejaz22]

utah is the least corrupt state.

[@jeffwhitney3369]

Does your dumb ass think Utah has some kind off wall that keeps Utah's air from leaving Utah????

[@jrm88382]

@@jeffwhitney3369 omg! There isn't a wall thank god you told me i would have gone the rest of my life thinking there was. Diesel smoke is actually raw fuel that was not burnt during the combustion stroke so therefore it does not travel very far before falling back to earth so it does not need a wall to stay in Utah. Maybe try knowing what your talking about before firing insults like a 6th grader..........Dumbasss! Lol now go vote for Biden you Lib

[@alexhilton4657]

Your absolutely right!

[@tigeroftheeye7121]

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[@bobroberts2581]

Plus they were vets, meaning they took an oath at one point to defend the laws of America with their lives.

[@fgDAB]

What’s money gonna do for “air pollution”? They’re just tryna grab money from this business.

[@justjordan6560]

I think they're trying to get them to stop doing their business

[@first6982]

It’s a fine for breaking the law, which discourages others from doing so. It’s like a speeding ticket.

[@xoathbringer]

@@MrApple187 for the most part yeah most people will slow down when they think they'll get caught

[@jasonpersaud5259]

But if they get such a heavy find I'm sure it will stop them from keep going

[@bobroberts2371]

fabian gonzalez Would you rather the DB go to jail? Just how would you enforce laws?

[@Unnamed-rider]

I love how non car people make it seem like they know everything

[@exrahh]

Facts

[@reflex1749]

Exactly. Carbon and co2. Same as everyone else.

[@tmer3806]

Kinda like politicians and guns..

[@exrahh]

@DoorDasher Dan if they were against the law you wouldn’t see them anymore 😭😐stfu

[@uglyfxxx6981]

Gale banks can make thousands of hp without blowing smoke. No excuses.

[@Barty.Crowell]

The DPF is designed to go through a regen cycle that burns the particulate until it is fine enough to fit through the filter. Ironically that fine particulate matter is just as hazardous. But at least it doesn't *look* like it's polluting as much

[@eugeniujosanu279]

That crap is made with ammonia .. it have to go somewhere. I v seen so many trucks and truck drivers ruined because of the brake downs of DPF system, im starting to pray before the road, and I'm atheist.

[@kodiskustoms1639]

I can't bring myself to buy a new diesel truck because of dpf. I have a 1997 f350 7.3l. Its not as powerful as the new trucks but I haven't got any emission problems lol

[@angelgjr1999]

We had a Mercedes sprinter diesel go into limp mode because of that DPF crap. Diesels are no good.

[@AuRowe]

@@angelgjr1999 Diesels are the best, the Govt wants to control us and so they limit it "for our safety"

[@sykzz3117]

@@kodiskustoms1639 this is a little late but you have a 7.3l that in its self is able to compete

[@oveniel100]

What about those pickup trucks from the US army. From factory those trucks don't have dpf. what a Hypocrisy are those emissions laws.

[@mikecalafatis8522]

What about all the full afterburner fighter jets and cargo aircraft burning thousands of pounds of fuel an hour with no DPF filters or DEF?

[@ericcarrell7600]

Mike Calafatis and those cargo ships. They produce tons of carbon from those monster Diesel engine. What snowflakes.

[@justinweaver7553]

Burns at a higher temp and not as bad per fuel burned in terms of pollution, also more trucks on the road than fighter jets in the sky, I've seen clean diesel, it's a good idea but idiots think rolling coal is more important

[@milesnash2003]

justin weaver you fo understand that carbon that comes out of a diesel truck goes back into the soil which the earth can break down and reuse unlike you gas vehicles running around

[@rsdna9698]

@Joe Sudz Funny thing is it's true.

[@stevenlilley1606]

That’s how they get there Prius so there cool with it..

[@joecummings1260]

The number one rule of breaking the law is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Don't make a spectacle of yourself while doing it.

[@timcorey8474]

@Josh Holcomb yeah dont go telling on yourself when breaking the law. Thats why most tuners have you sign something saying offroad use only.

[@JimHurd-tv4fp]

Their ego, pride and vanity won't allow for that!

[@mayhemmike1789]

🤔Sounds like they rolled coal on somebody they shouldn't have

[@THESLlCK]

bet that prius was the judge's

[@kineticinstallationspecial5775]

Probably the bicyclist. It's all fun and games until you roll coal on a federal prosecutor.

[@THESLlCK]

@Bob Watters federal emissions laws regulate manufacturers, not modifications. Read a book.

[@THESLlCK]

@Bob Watters is that why the feds are never involved and don’t charge people for it? I guess you didn’t read a book since we last spoke. Do you really think getting rid of a DPF is a felony? If so, see a doctor.

[@captjim007]

@@THESLlCK EXACTLY

[@40calpunisher]

And how do we know that was a doctor? Because he was wearing a lab coat and surgical mask... on the sidewalk in a random neghborhood.

[@jermlittle1970]

40calpunisher so what if a Dr thinks it’s bad.He gives poison to kids.Time to fight these people

[@niggtron6494]

Also apparently an expert in emissions.

[@charliegoodspeed240]

Fake news reporting again or fake experts imean

[@Pyrolysis2142]

He was hiding from the 'rona virus.

[@JohnDoe-mp1zk]

@ how childish. listen to yourself. you sound like a big bully

[@raymondolson8731]

Funny how the government can step in and fine a business while saying it has violated the clean air act BUT has anyone ever asked what type of emissions are on the military vehicles.... I can tell you this it doesn't have dpf or def or pass any carb test.

[@bigslim7870]

Was just about to say. The US Military is the top polluter in the world. And burns more fossil fuels than all of Europe.

[@TwinStickFilms]

They wouldn't want emissions equipment on any or their vehicles because it would be completely unreliable.

[@dirtydirtydatsun]

Cargo ships running in and out of the us 24/7with zero emissions, tons of government private jets with no regulation...

[@bigslim7870]

@Trump 2024 not that hard really, every goddamn vehicle used by the military has like a 8 mpg rating and is built like absolute shit. There’s a reason countries are able to beat the US only using a few Toyota Tacoma’s.

[@ryanchivari5857]

Add the fact the politicians flying everywhere around the world.

[@JimmyFoxhound]

$800,000 to the Feds is like giving a normal working person a penny. What a ridiculous judgement, that's the sort of thing that is done to 'make an example' out of someone.

[@ericlotze7724]

"Making an Example" is the point, no?

[@markstevens1729]

As it should. This fuck the environment attitude is over. If you hold it, you just made yourself an endangered species.

[@allanfrancis7572]

Oh that's exactly what's happening

[@allanfrancis7572]

@@markstevens1729 that's not what this is about go inform yourself before formulating an opinion. The 23 trucks that don't have those systems were not on road vehicles. They are specialized for motorsport

[@ericlotze7724]

@@allanfrancis7572 Maybe in this example (i need to look into it myself). However people “deleting” their trucks is pretty common, so “making an example” of any group supporting this practice is important.

[@spudman12382]

It has nothing to do with the environment but everything to do with money.

[@coryCT]

The state fines these guys for “air quality pollution “ which is to protect YOU the humans in the state.....but the state also allows u to smoke cigarettes and drink and gamble as long as the state gets its taxes 🙃

[@michaeltan7855]

Yea there's no gambling in Utah.

[@coryCT]

Miguel Moreno thanks Miguel, not really the point tho is it now ?

[@brokenmalisharc272]

Damn rights all about that Green 💰

[@chancemarsh3282]

None of this makes sense

[@dcoppedge06]

If they want to protect the air and people maybe they should ban cigarettes.

[@calvinsmith6756]

In my book, fuel milage is better for the environment.

[@justinweaver7553]

You're an idiot obviously, what's it worth to breath?

[@geraldscott4069]

Obviously you don't work your truck. Last time I checked 27mpg vs 12-14mpg is much better for the environment and hey Missouri Farmer keep on rollin them wheels.

[@dumpstuntin]

Emissions are bullshit anyways. Just meant to keep you buying new cars.

[@scarface-39]

When most of the world doesn’t do emissions what we do in America is not going to matter!!!

[@derekbader130]

@@scarface-39 actually there's emissions across Europe, usa, and Canada! Also in Australia I believe now too. Honestly combustion engines will probably be obsolete someday....

[@austinbuto6300]

There’s literally tons of semi’s, heavy machinery, boats who all do the same thing lol attack the little man though I guess... makes sense

[@島袋誠-z6k]

Facts! The mega buisness can destroy the environment, someone wanna have some good life,.fck them. Amazing.

[@Xalashaska]

Lunsy so that justifies pollution? im all for fining people causing environmental harm but let’s not turn a blind eye just because it’s more convenient to do so. if they really gave a fuck about the environment like they’re claiming to do so in order to have charged these guys close to a million then they would be finding ways to make things like the tesla semi truck the norm. it’s just much easier to just keep using the same shit trucks and polluting engines just for the sake of keeping transport prices to a minimum.

[@suppperhuman]

Yeah but we have to follow the law and be compliant it’s pretty simple shit

[@hillbillytarzan9077]

Yeah but most of the semis you see "Rolling coal" are pre-emission. So 2007 or older and actually most of those are ran by small carriers say 10 trucks or less all the big boys have newer (usually no more than a couple years old) trucks, and by the way it is illegal to modify a semi to bypass the emissions equipment (DPF) at least for commercial service anyway.......

[@dakotabatman21]

Exactly. They have never had this problem at all. They were targeted

[@bobroberts2581]

These are punitive damage. Punishment meant to ensure copy cats companies won’t do the same. Also, if diesel owners don’t want to spend the money adequately maintaining their vehicle their free to buy a gasoline fueled vehicle instead.

[@nate0765]

Only 10% goes to that county? Why is the federal government getting it?

[@jesuslightsmyway]

Thats how it all works man , civil asset forfeiture, drugs seizures. county gets 10% and rest goes 2 the feds

[@bobroberts2371]

They violated FEDERAL clean air laws . Regardless, the BD are a bunch of well DB.

[@justinweaver7553]

Because they had the sense to fine them when the state wouldn't

[@widebody_moparmike]

Bob Roberts Federal money grab paws you mean , where does this said money go?? Is it forcing the manufacturers to actually make something not fail under 100k miles or make the parts available for the consumer to be able to buy and replace themselves?? Why do we have to pay the dealer to replace a 3k part but yet on your gas car if a cat fails you can replace them and don’t need the pcm/ecu scanned by the manufacturers said scan tool 🤷‍♂️. Again this shit is nothing but a money grab like everything that involves our government

[@headlesnorseman701]

I’m sure they will spend it efficiently lol

[@xznmusic]

"Important Pieces" my ass. Emissions hardware ruin vehicles.

[@yamahaguy1732]

Yeah just look at the trucks and cars from the late 70s and 80s they are horrible with the smog control it takes power away and when they clog the car runs like dog shit

[@XxFuZexToxicxX]

Pat Ball bro... there is no maintenance that will stop a cat from getting clogged and causing issues. Cats, mufflers, and resonators all are horrible for performance thats why you see hp ratings go up by 1-4 hp when you remove those and move to a straight pipe system... lmao youre a clown

[@__WJK__]

@xanZion - smh ... so let's just remove "emissions hardware" on everything so we can start living like this... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJrCYWOunqiGqa8 Or this... kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6macqVoZsSEZ6s

[@fiveninecummins7768]

DEF/DPF is one of the worst things to ever happen to diesels.

[@jaceacekalgoorlie]

Pieces of shit, after a while nothing but trouble.

[@fiveninecummins7768]

@@jaceacekalgoorlie Yeah, they're junk. We have a couple of newer trucks and pieces of equipment. We are having the DEF junk removed after the Kenworths come off of warranty. However, there isn't squat we can do about the track-hoe and Bobcat. We have a PC360 and a T870, but you can't take the systems off of them like you can the trucks. The Komatsu PC360 is a 2018 and I've already had to replace the guts of the the tank and several of the sensors. Something is always tearing up.. You get better fuel mileage with the junk removed.

[@nitroustommy]

😂 not if you're the mechanic. 😂

[@Traks_threw_life86]

Here fill your truck with gov juice from the plastic jug that leaves an even worse problem.

[@Fosgen]

Only straight pipe belong to diesel. Chop EGR with axe, vent positive crankcase pressure to atmosphere and run your diesel till you rot.

[@Dieselmd2008]

Can’t put the smoke into the air but you can wash the pollutants down the drains when they clean them

[@NorthCrazyDriver]

But it’s okay for the government military vehicles to run diesel without the systems....

[@roncreach753]

True!

[@roncreach753]

Just like it's ok for them to I stall "green" septic ponds for the rest areas but you have to install a aerobic system and pay annual inspection fees

[@mikeuhlir4823]

That's a matter of national security!

[@mikeuhlir4823]

@@roncreach753 pay your fees and obey your master's!

[@CodyV207]

Yes. It’s 100% ok for the military to do whatever the hell we want.

[@heavylead1961]

if the government was so worried about our environment, they would synchronize the traffic lights

[@farmermann2335]

Underrated comment 🤣

[@seanoleary1979]

HOLY CRAP!!!!! I ALWAYS THINK THE SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!

[@randolphbehm877]

You are absolutely correct. It drives me crazy coming to a stop at an intersection with no other vehicles in site. The largest polluting waste of fuel is getting the vehicle moving again after stopping for nothing. Not only synchronized lights but sensors that tell you to speed up or slow down to offset intersecting traffic. I would rather slow down 20mph a 1/4 mile before the intersection then have to stop at a light. With today’s technology this should be a no brainer. If politicians actually fixed things they wouldn’t have anything to run on at the next election cycle.

[@guitarwi3rdo]

Or make a better transit infrastructure so less people have to drive

[@niagarawarrior9623]

a solution is already becoming popular, many intersections are now controlled with radar tracking, they give cars approaching the intersection extended green lights.

[@boosted__e9249]

Polluting the air is totally ok AS LONG AS you can’t see the pollutants. Ignorance is bliss.

[@Patrick-857]

You heard it here first, DPFs stop all diesels rolling coal. Fuel mixture doesn't real. Also DPF and cat delete is legal in my country.

[@DarkShroom]

there's actual scientific evidence for what is coming out of that tailpipe, that's it's at least 33x more of that bad shit (that you can't see), along with that disgusting black smog (which is full of soot) nothing gives anyone the right to pollute 33x more than other cars.... there's other people on this planet... deal with it

[@bcarl4027]

@@DarkShroom that’s a vague statement. Which year diesels vs which year gas engines. Which “bad stuff” is coming out of the tailpipe? What gives anyone the right to pollute with any car? You’re fine with regular gas pollution but draw the line on 33% more “bad stuff”? I say nobody has the right to drive hybrid or electrical cars. Take a look at what it takes to mine lithium and cobalt to build these cars. producing an electric vehicle contributes, on average, twice as much to global warming potential and uses double the amount of energy than producing a combustion engine car. “Nobody has the right to do that!” Deal with it

[@AA-xk7gy]

@@Noelsterrr somebody’s triggered

[@Noelsterrr]

Polluting the environment is totally acceptable if you have a micro penis which is literally every truck owner in America 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leeorr9071]

Leave these great men alone

[@claydavidson3724]

“You can see the exhaust shake” really, had no clue 😂

[@subitopoco]

Journalistic Excellence, clearly.

[@DriFD3S]

The judge drives a Prius.

[@DarkShroom]

@@DriFD3S good the Prius rocks, it's the most monumental car of the late 20th century it showed that electrically driven clean power was not just desirable for the environment, but it could save money to when i saw all the taxis turn into Priuses I knew the world had changed forever, Honda had done it where GE had failed

[@fezzikspektre954]

@@DarkShroom Honda? The Prius is a Toyota...

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is the ORIGINAL Semitic Text. HERE IS THE REAL SAVIOR YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

[@tikka300wsm5]

John Kerry is going to being flying in on his private jet to assess the situation....

[@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975]

Al gore too

[@walkerwyse1047]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DrLoverLover]

All these snowflake incels...

[@Napoleon_Blownapart]

Bingo.

[@dann7528]

Why the long face john

[@ariroberts7694]

I like how the doctor became a diesel tech in less than 10 min when he heard 800,000 dollars on the table. Gtfo

[@evanhisey5898]

Not agreeing with this at all but two things I gotta say. First thing is have any of you ever been riding on a twisty mountain road on a motorcycle ( one lane ) and been behind a diesel “ cumming “ or “rolling coal “? I’ll tell you now you cannot see a damn thing. And it’s fucking scary as shit being on a bike when you cannot see. Second thing I want to address is doctors or scientist do not need to be a diesel technician to understand that diesel smoke is unhealthy. That being said I own a diesel , I sont agree with what happened it at the same time I don’t roll coal and my power stroke is a fucking beast.

[@huntforandrew]

It's scary how stupid this comment is. I think a doctor would be the most knowledegable person on the effects of diesel emissions on the human body. Are you Trumptards that far gone that you don't understand the role of doctors? These are the same people refusing to wear masks so I guess I shouldn't be surprised you morons don't believe doctors. It really is absurd how the republican party has almost become a religion. A religion for the stupid and insane. There's only 2 groups I know of that don't believe in doctors, the crazy deeply religious and republicans.

[@edgarespinoza1597]

It doesn't take an idiot to determine rolling coal may not be good for your lungs lol. Gtfo

[@AlejandroGarcia-tj2bs]

@@huntforandrew dude why do you bring politics into this no one said anything

[@denen404]

@@huntforandrew wasn't about what emissions do to the human body...he was stating that he knew for a fact that taking ONE part off raised emissions by EXACTLY 30%....in over 20 trucks....do you realize how statistically low the chances of this being accurate are?.....not to mention the difference in newer and older diesel engines?....i struggle to believe that EVERY LAST ONE of the trucks had EXACTLY 30% emissions increase....which is EXACTLY what the doctor states....

[@Obamaistoast2012]

Hes absolutely right, I have a ford F350 the DPF clogged one year after I purchased it new, it just got out of warranty the cost to replace was insane so i had it deleted, my fuel economy increased by 5-6 miles per gallon, and the power increased dramatically. I believe the fuel increase offsets the potential pollution.

[@interestinglyenough6669]

Same with my 08 f350

[@RolandJernts]

Obamaistoast2012 No, your personal added horsepower does not justify any added potential pollution. It’s still pollution, and the point is to Decrease it.

[@kaseyaldrich4746]

Ben Nagem when the Truck “regens” and it burns off the spot inside the DPF, the gases caused by this, actually cause more pollutants than them being removed. To add, the emissions system has to be created somewhere, so, you were filling the environment with more pollutants to create said systems. Now, before we go to far, deleting a truck does NOT cause it to smoke automatically, contrary to popular belief, and not everyone that deletes or turns their truck is out there throwing smoke everywhere.

[@interestinglyenough6669]

Better fuel mileage equals less pollution. It takes a lot of polluting to get the oil out of the ground and turn it into something your engine can burn and then get it to your local gas station.

[@a.d.414]

WE in europ have the same Problem. Fuck DEF and DPF

[@tylermccloud3027]

Time to leave Utah then the state will miss the money they make from taxing them.

[@bobroberts2371]

The DB ( ags ) get tagged for violating federal law, it doesn't matter where in the US they move to.

[@walterk1221]

@@bobroberts2371 sadly, you are correct. The EPA will haunt them regardless of where they go. Now, a practical matter is that the DPF does not and can not trap the particulate matter of the sizes accused of actually being responsible for respiratory issues. So it is all about the fact in the world of political correctness one cannot discriminate against black people but only against black smoke. Particulate matter is dust and quickly settles to the ground, joining rubber tire dust, brake dust, clutch dust.

[@WithLOVE_Indiana]

Just go break the law somewhere else, right Tyler McCloud. Don't change your behavior.😁

[@walterk1221]

@@WithLOVE_Indiana wouldn't matter, the EPA has identified them. You snowflakes can rest easy. The evil smokers are out of business no matter where they go.

[@DavidSanchez-el4bg]

Bob Roberts it’s only illegal if u get caught

[@aRYANz88]

Cruise ship pollutes as much as a million cars over its lifetime.... Fines DB instead......

[@doozerchuck8625]

And they carry 3,000-4,000 people per trip and staying service for over 30 years, they truck is worse.

[@RolandJernts]

Doozer Chuck These dipshits don’t want to hear facts.

[@lukemanius]

@@doozerchuck8625 for pleasure cruises, asshole. Trucks take people to work. Trucks carry things for work and family. Trucks tow things for work and family.

[@lukemanius]

@@RolandJernts fuck you.

[@5FaLlEn5]

What about Diesel Locomotives? see them rolling coal everyday as they roll past my job.

[@gentrydebbie1040]

China Russia Mexico Refuse it ,That should Tell you the whole truth ?And who The suckers are .

[@flynnt77]

Get something straight: DPF doesn't "clean" anything. It just traps the soot in a substrate to be burned out later, either on the highway during an extended drive, or sitting in parked regen mode with the engine revved up to highway RPM. That same particulate matter is still being dumped into the air, only at a size so small as to be invisible to the naked eye, while at the same time making the NOX and other crap so microscopic as to be readily absorbed by your lungs. At least the mucus membranes in your lungs would trap the soot so you could cough it up later, if you inhaled it. DPF is an absolute lie. It does NOTHING to clean the air, and it ruins fuel mileage because every regen cycle can burn several gallons of fuel within a matter of minutes. I know this, because my own Diesel van burns 2.5 gallons more fuel at every regen. So the same amount of crap, maybe even MORE, is being spewed into the air thanks to the extra fuel consumed during regeneration. Good job, EPA!! DEF does actually help break down certain pollutants, but again, it's poison, too. The chemical used is essentially standardized urea mixed with distilled water. DEF breaks down in the DEF chamber and becomes a mixture of ammonia and carbon dioxide. The ammonia then catalyzes the NOX out of the exhaust stream. Again... CATALYZES. Think back to high school chemistry. What does a catalyst do? It starts a chemical reaction without being consumed or altered in the process. So now instead of NOX, we have that demonic, evil CO2 along with VAPOROUS AMMONIA spewing out of every vehicle equipped with a DEF system. Congratulations, EPA. You used lethal poison to get rid of what is, by comparison, a mild irritant. Well done. But hey, it makes the environmentalists happy, and, more importantly, makes whichever senator's cousin who owns the patent on DPF and DEF richer than creosote, so it's all good, right?

[@pyrelogic9876]

Lmao, you dont even bother to finish explaining the process. It still has to go through the selective catalytic reduction catalyst. Which only leaves nitrogen, water vapor and carbon dioxide. Please educate yourself before spewing bullshit

[@dzelpwr]

The particulate matter is NOT largely being dumped in the air at extra small levels, the vast majority of it gets converted into ash and stays trapped in the DPF's substrate. The ash does allow better airflow through it than the carbon particles do. The build up of carbon particles starting to clog the DPF, which is when the differential pressure sensor reports the backpressure over the threshhold the computer wants to see, so it starts a regen cycle to superheat the DPF and burn the carbon particles, again converting most of it to ash. There's a reason DPF-equipped diesels that are still functioning can literally have their tailpipes swiped with a white glove, and it will still be white. 'Evil CO2' is pretty hilarious because it's not actually a pollutant at all as far as air quality is concerned. It is, however, a concern for global warming, yes. However, with or without the emissions equipment, the vast majority of what comes out of any tailpipe IS CO2. We even know what the set amount of carbon released by burning a gallon of gas (8,887 g), or a gallon of diesel (10,180 g). So, here's some fun math. The total amount of pollutants coming out of a diesel with no emissions equipment (NOx, CO and HC at least--leaving particulates out of the equation for the moment) might be between 1-2 g/mi according to the certifications I've seen over the years. CO and HC are always surprisingly low on diesels, even without emissions equipment, because of their lean-burning nature. But, NOx is generally high. But it legitimately is, on average, between 1 to 2 grams per mile of ALL these pollutants combined on a diesel with no emissions equipment. That means there is 1 to 2 grams total that has the potential to be PARTIALLY converted into CO2. But, to put this into perspective, regardless of if a vehicle has its emissions equipment intact or not, a diesel getting 18 MPG average is going to average 565.5 g/mi CO2 output. See above where we know how much is emitted just by burning a gallon of diesel, so, simple equation if you know the average MPG of a vehicle. 10,180 g/gallon, divided by 18 miles per gallon, you get 565.55555... g/mi CO2. Now, WITH emissions equipment intact converting the 1-2 grams of actual harmful pollutants PARTIALLY into CO2, well, that's pretty insignificant considering how much is already being emitted regardless of emissions controls being installed or not. However, you do have a point where many of the emissions equipped modern diesels do get better mileage when the emissions equipment is removed and computer retuned, because that means it IS emitting less CO2 just based on the increased efficiency. So, if an 18 MPG average truck with all emissions equipment intact is now a 21 MPG average truck with it all removed, it goes to 484.8 average g/mi CO2 instead of 565.5 (plus another maybe 1 gram from the emissions equipment converting the small quantity of pollutants into a little extra CO2 and water vapor).

[@flynnt77]

@@dzelpwr I never considered that perspective. Very enlightening response to an admittedly snarky rant. My own experiences dealing with EGR/DEF/DPF/SCR systems have been rotten, to say the least, thanks largely to the terrible things that these systems do to the engine itself when (not if, WHEN) they begin to fail. Diesel engines were once renowned for durability and longevity. Now, they are an absolute money pit that significantly increase the overall cost of ownership. Engines that were once capable of 500k miles between overhauls with proper maintenance now require them 2-4 times as often, mostly due to increased wear from particulate contamination introduced as part of the EGR cycle. Engines that are not equipped with a dedicated DPF Regen injector in the exhaust system send the extra fuel required for regen burn by pulsing the primary injectors during the exhaust stroke, which causes carbon build-up on every surface of the exhaust system upstream of the DPF. It also causes cylinder wash-down and contaminates the oil with fuel. This further increases wear AND necessitates extra oil changes, which creates additional hazmat disposal problems. EGR coolers develop fractures and leak coolant into the intake, causing cracked pistons and valves, shattered injector tips, or worst case, full-on hydro-lock, which can cause an engine to blow itself to shreds. None of these issues existed before the introduction of all this extra equipment, and the engine manufacturers have their hands tied when it comes to trying other methods of NOX and soot reduction. From this perspective, the entire Tier IV system seems designed to render the Diesel engine too costly to operate. From a mechanic's perspective, the net benefit from these systems is vastly outweighed by the sheer cost in terms of money and downtime. I own a 2000 Caterpillar 3126 that has none of this equipment, and produces no appreciable soot or NOX. Same for my father's 1989 7.3 IDI, which has 450k miles on the original engine, and the 1997 Powerstroke I recently sold. None of these vehicles are modified from factory spec, and none of them haze up or "roll coal" when under a load. They are properly adjusted and reliable as the sunrise, and I'm willing to bet they would pass emissions in any jurisdiction that wants to test them.

[@lockman004]

@@dzelpwr Great answer and explanation but nothing anyone says is going to convince these numskulls of anything. We'll have to wait until they're dragging an O2 tank with them everywhere they go. I suspect these are the same people that refuse to get vaccinated or wear a mask to protect other people. Darwin will visit them in the next couple of months.

[@bretthoss9795]

Excellent comment!

[@Robocline]

got to love how people don't understand how diesel works and especially how a DPF, DEF and Regens work.

[@travisknecht2042]

Lol facttssssss

[@thegreatkoifish7063]

Exactly

[@Fastfkid]

Yep

[@lukekoenig2487]

Our ambulances had the dpf in them and when sitting on post, I could barely fucking breath when they got clogged and had to regen. It was ridiculous and smelt horrible. It was legit like sticking your head over an oil lamp and breaking in the soot. And when you took off, it was embarrassing. The only reason the dpf made it was bc it was basically like the truck holding it all in until it couldnt. All the shit eventually came out one way or another.

[@FrozenHaxor]

@@lukekoenig2487 It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever, either the crap comes out gradually over time without a DPF or all of it at once with DPF during a regen, but your vehicle suffers along the way. It's ridiculous, very bad design.

[@atfgarage9459]

That’s $37k per truck! The punishment does not fit the crime.

[@kalie_plays8646]

Well it's breaking the law

[@fidelcastration8036]

@@kalie_plays8646 it doesent matter thats like making you pay $10,000 for going 60 in a 45

[@justingitsme3093]

@@kalie_plays8646 wowowwwwwww if you speed you should pay thousands cuz your breaking the law or how bout littering its illegal but should you habe to pay that much to the government

[@Wvatvr1911]

It isn’t breaking a crime if the trucks have a filter

[@xstreammoves2148]

Maybe the punishment was so high because it’s a business establishment, I once almost got a $15k fine for my trailer which is registered commercially for not having my lights working which I had to appeal because they were just simply not plugged in and it could’ve been done by someone other than me

[@somerandomperson4311]

LOL and what about Kim K's private jet?

[@kentamberg1677]

I guess if you sue diesel brothers god gives you an earthquake

[@djquiksilva]

Ken Tamberg .. this actually made me chuckle 🤭🤣

[@KevinMcMullen.]

So much for America being a free country. People need to mind there own damn business.

[@donfrommpls778]

And I deserve to breath clean air.

[@KevinMcMullen.]

Don From Mpls You don't deserve anything unless you work for it. Farm animals produce more pollution than cars. Stop consuming animal products if you want. Volcanos pollute more then anything man-made. Go find a way to change it if you want. But don't bother the rest of us with it. Do your thing we will do ours.

[@johnolver3217]

no candy not to mention the environmentally friendly batteries in the hybrids. Not all diesels are bad an not every diesel driver rolls coal. An they don’t do it all the time. I’ve built gasser to get mileage an I tell ya it’s way easier to get mileage from a diesel.

[@oe542]

Americans are FREE..... they have the right to breath clean air. It’s actually a law called the ‘clean air act’.

[@michaelmurphy9596]

@@oe542 , were we free there wouldn't be these constant assaults on our freedom, be it diesels, fun, speech, etc., we're only as free as the latest change in law allows. Don't fool yourself.

[@timbodnar6711]

What's funny about this. Cruise ships, tankers and cargo ships destroy the environment so much quicker than any wheeled vehicle

[@Au_Falcon]

Not to mention the Military vehicles that don't have emission equipment... nice one government.

[@jonesjones7057]

Not to mention all the actors that tell us what the do while cruising around on their diesel powered super yachts. I have no problem with diesel powered super yachts, but people claiming to care about our "climate crisis" should not even be allowed to ride on a yacht let alone own one. Those things get about a half a mile per gallon.

[@sonofatlas1372]

And air planes

[@papapsych2746]

@life Can't be true at all.

[@ThePickleSlicer]

@@Au_Falcon and all aircraft

[@danrowley6934]

PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF UTAH!

[@fishingbob8374]

“Partnered with Nikola to make electric cars” Well that didn’t age well at all.

[@sesshomarudogdemon7794]

The only person who gets it 😂

[@okthisisthelasttimeipromise]

This 😆

[@Mrpolo19851]

Thanks for that comment 😁🤣🤣, I was just thinking about that.

[@geneh831]

🤣

[@patrickcannell2258]

Don't call this Tesla Nikola! Nicola was a genius. This bunch have something else up their sleeve.

[@uhohspagettioh97531]

They should use the money to build a wall. Build it around Washington DC

[@Yeti573]

Add commiefornia to list.

[@KoolRunnings09]

Kyle Larimore and New York

[@hevertpacheco7870]

For?

[@StoneCoolds]

Lol

[@lazygringo9701]

The problem isnt the pollution. Large corporations pollute far more and are given a free pass. The funny part is citizens applauding the government stripping individual rights from other citizens.

[@hitoshisawa8479]

its evry one all togher not a finger game

[@velvetjones]

Why do you have a problem doing your part? The emissions equipment is on the vehicles. They have plenty of horsepower and torque even with all the emissions equipment on. There is zero need to remove it and throw 5x the fuel at it when the engine can't burn all that fuel and just blows it out the exhaust as black smoke. Power numbers on diesel engines keep going up even with all the new emissions requirements. These guys weren't building work trucks that needed an extra 400hp to haul equipment. They were making toys that were lifted 12+ inches and had huge wheels and tires. They are making show trucks which will never see any real work and have no excuse for bypassing emissions to give them more power. These clean air laws don't negatively effect you in any way, shape, form, or fashion. Your individual rights stop when your actions have a negative effect on others. Polluting vehicles, especially dirty running diesels, cause respiratory problems every day. So your individual rights are not being infringed on. I don't remember the constitution saying anything about individuals being able to pollute the air for everyone else. Driving a vehicle and owning a vehicle is not a protected right here or in any other nation on earth. The fact that you think these people's rights were taken away leads me to believe you don't know your butthole from your elbow when it comes to "individual rights" at all.

[@brysonh.1093]

Gas engines burn more and pollute more than a Diesel engine even with the black smoke coming out of it

[@lazygringo9701]

I dont have a diesel truck, but love the messages talking sh!t because I have an opinion different than yourn.

[@southernlivinoutfitters6950]

Wesley Jones it helps them run better... the emissions crap makes these trucks go down with like 25-30k miles on them... they run more efficiently and healthier.

[@bananahobby]

They were targeted for sure

[@jasonheflin588]

Why doesn’t the government go after the manufactures .When the system fails won’t cover it after warranty is up at 36,000 miles and leaves it up to the customer to A five to $10,000 replacement after he paid $50-$70,000 for the truck.

[@brianpatrick8787]

Emmision equbement is covered under a whole diffrent warranty that rans more like 100 k miles.

[@ll.7927]

Brian Patrick yup exactly. It’s crazy that they got fined tho

[@martinandersson5278]

And still you are accepting that your 2000dollar iPhone is garbage after two years A system with a life time warranty would be to expensive

[@nickopedia5669]

@@martinandersson5278 I've never heard of an iphone that costs 2000 dollars... you're being taken advantage of. And mine have all lasted much longer than that. Had my 4 for 3 years until I upgraded to my 5 which survived 7 years of abuse. If that's not a good phone idk what is. And my new one, an SE, has 4x the processing power and longer battery life for $250 in the same form factor. I reckon I'll have another 5-7 years with it.

[@miodice3]

Is this a cry for more government, to make the truck mfgs give you better products. You think it's a coincidence this breaks out of warranty? Their whole business model is on parts. Anyone buying these and thinking they're getting a real american truck is getting played, oil and auto love making high profit margin trucks and selling them to people who eat this shit up all-day long

[@harley11296]

That's why living in Utah is a no-go.

[@JeremiahHartmanPhotography]

I wonder when we can start suing the EPA for the damage ethanol, biofuel, and emissions equipment causes to our engines?

[@midengineZ06]

the (EPA) don't realize that the person that pays for it, in the end, is the buyer of the vehicle and making these vehicles unreliable. Try taking your truck to a dealer after the warranty (emissions system are not part of the warranty????????) it's at least 10k fix that's why people delete!

[@miodice3]

This technology is over a hundred years old. It was the best at the time and now better tech is available, push whatever brand you prefer to actually make not shitty compliance EVs. We have 42k miles and I have done zero maintenance, and they're cheap to charge, and faster than basically anything except $500k cars

[@gonzarellious6102]

@@miodice3 Too bad it takes hours to charge and the majority of this country does not have charging stations. Let's not ignore the horrible pollution and damage to the environment that even making them causes.

[@miodice3]

@@gonzarellious6102 I drive 25k miles in a year and have not charged our car in a week. If you have a house with electricity you are fine. As I said before, of course they have an impact, but it's less than desiel for sure, literally even when powered by coal and take into account line losses. Besides, I don't missing getting robbed at the pump and paying auto makers for parts that break all the time. EVs have 10% of the moving parts, haven't even changed fluids on our car and won't need to for another 8 years. Brakes last 300k plus miles, these things are cheap over the life of them

[@miodice3]

@Privileged N.P.C. as long as you enjoy paying significantly more than you need to for your transportation, go for it

[@lighters1954]

This blows my mind I can’t believe we the people are allowing the government to get this much control over us

[@granolamonger7097]

I should be able to pollute the air as much as I’d like.

[@DF-et4gs]

@@granolamonger7097 I'm calling sarcasm 🧐🤔

[@jawa1984]

The smog laws from the 70's worked in California otherwise the air wouldn't be breathable here today.

[@wannabecarguy]

@@jawa1984 are you referring to the smog in the la valley? Which the natives talked about before cars existed?

[@jawa1984]

@@wannabecarguy yep, L.A. basin. imagine 4 million indians all driving around without smog control devices on their autos. they'd really be complaining about shitty air then.

[@SmallJack86]

Welcome to the Corporate States of America

[@gustavojr8081]

America is becoming more foreign by the day and the term "I remember Freedom" will become very common

[@ryanfisher806]

Amen.

[@jerrybell3921]

Metzger jr yeah and what really pisses me off is the US government DOES NOT have any emissions AT ALL but then they enforce it on the American people so if that dpf shit is so great why ain’t they using it ????

[@22trem]

You can always get the fuck out.

[@Foxtrot_Vet]

22trem nah I’m good because I came here for the freedom that our veterans have fought for and don’t want to see a corrupt government take that away from them

[@brucem6442]

Them fucking snowflakes man.

[@wendellyazzie3303]

I've worked at a dodge dealership and had to change at least 3 dpf a week for being clogged along with egr valves. That's why I have a 2003 LB7 with out all the BS attached to it.

[@chrism1966]

Wendell Yazzie That’s why I hang onto my. 2003 ram with the 5.9 Cummins. Comes stock with no catalytic converter or egr.

[@wendellyazzie3303]

@Kyle Matkovich yeah I've actually got to do mine again. This time I'm not going with ebay specials I'm going to go with Bosch injectors..

[@wendellyazzie3303]

@@chrism1966 that's another truck I'd love to own.

[@Dirtdreams]

Hell yea. I love my 06 LBZ.

[@wendellyazzie3303]

@@johnolver3217 thanks I'll consider doing that.

[@zackmcevoy859]

Sounds like a corrupt judge didn't like somebody

[@confuse3671]

How is the judge corrupt? Doesn't eveyone know it illegal to remove emission controls from a vehicle? They did the crime. Don't like the law? call the US congress. Judge was doing his job.

[@justinusberger3933]

@@confuse3671 Good little servant.

[@taurusbull8276]

@@justinusberger3933 Do you know what an emissions test is?

[@mikew9941]

@@confuse3671 Because we all know government listens, right? As if nobody contacted them already... If they listened or cared, unconstitutional laws wouldn't be a thing. Yet, here we are. His job is to uphold the constitution. "Just was doing his job" doesn't cut it for obvious reasons. Unconstitutional laws are void.

[@TCrob]

@@justinusberger3933 and your just a good wittle follower. Gargle gargle gulp

[@JTBCOOL1]

Yet the government doesnt require their own vehicles to have a DPF. Brand new diesel trucks coming out of US manufacturing companies without the DPFs for government use. Rules for thee not for me.

[@alexxxnder4982]

Every exhaust shop within 200 miles are laughing at this

[@mason7502]

Farther

[@andrewhillard1154]

Yeah I’m thinkin a lot more miles than twohundo

[@mdeckerLondon]

Not just exhaust shops. And way, way further than 200mls

[@dexter131]

We're laughing at this here in Michigan, not just an exhaust shop either.

[@angelgjr1999]

@@dexter131 I’m sure you’ll be laughing when you find out your kids have lung cancer thanks to your stupidity. Grow up and quit acting like a child.

[@Ominousstang]

“The people shouldn’t be afraid of the government, the government should be afraid of the people.” -Vendetta. When a diesel truck goes into regen it pretty much is “burning” all of the soot and pushing it all out of the tail pipe so about 5-10K miles worth of “soot” is being pushed out of the tail pipe while a really good tuned and deleted truck with 0 rolling coal is much better for the environment.

[@Icutmetal]

Sure 👌

[@martyndavies1482]

The regen converts the soot into ash, that must be better, but that’s putting a lot of faith in auto engineers.

[@alexs-zq6ni]

Better than piss water injection.

[@huntsbychainsaw5986]

I know the DPF is supposed to be burning the soot down to less harmful particles but if your in or around a truck while it's running a Regen it doesn't look or smell like it's any less harmful. I find the truck smells like unburned diesel and hot metal and it blows blue/grey or off white smoke. Its enough to put you out of the truck for a bit.

[@dchawk81]

@@huntsbychainsaw5986 Mine makes me hungry because it smells like a hot dog barbecue.

[@TURST67]

I'm a car guy, but polluting air on purpose and for fun is totally stupid. Yes, they remove those filters for fun mostly to make impressive huge black clouds, not to gain performace.

[@brianpolocoser1937]

TURST67 / Zäa I love making black smoke for no reason.

[@TheBandit7613]

Stick to cars. Those DPF equipped exhausts are so expensive to maintain, in your neighboring state, the local governments are switching to gas powered trucks. DPF is a nightmare. PS. Feel free to ignore the gross polluting 747 taking off at the airport and the dirty fuel using cruise ships. This is about feel good actions not actual problem solving.

[@danh6948]

It also dramatically reduces exhaust gas temps which is important with towing heavy loads. Temputures can get hot enough to weld exhaust valves closed if you push to hard.

[@jixjoe]

You people believe everything news tells you go to a plant where electricity is produced see how environmentally friendly they are

[@jarjarlol]

Turst you're an idiot

[@MidNiteR32]

Vehicles and cars only account to 10% of all cO2 emissions in the world.

[@rickitysplitz7035]

It's actually way more than that.

[@MidNiteR32]

@@rickitysplitz7035 no, it’s only 10%. Look up the stats. That’s including ALL transportation, so I’m being way generous in that number, but the number for personal vehicles is way lower. But for the sake of argument, let’s include with all modes of transport including public transportation. So it’s 10%. Of all co2 emissions .

[@kakrot3]

Sad days when the judicial system becomes a political arm.

[@erikolson5299]

They literally have a show which proves irrevocably that they circumvent things on vehicles required by law. That's about as black an white as it gets. Seeing is believing, and they manufactured the evidence that ended up biting them in the ass. Irony is lost on this one.

[@johnb1121]

Happens 2 often that's why we have to Vote Right..

[@rxdoom1194]

It was always designed to be that way

[@zachrolands185]

It's there to enforce laws that lawmakers put into place? That's what it's always been?

[@SladeWilsonOG]

“Black pollutants” why not just say SUT 😐

[@symbologee]

Soot

[@michaelstapleton5510]

cause it to simple to spell it the bunch of dumasses fuck the us government

[@mworld2611]

Because “Black pollutants” sounds more serious and dangerous than sut

[@MountainDuke-music]

MOUNTAINDUKE COMMON country pockets Official Music Video much love kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWjblpx_qJaModU God bless

[@rgjr.6055]

You can’t expect to do business in the Mafias area without paying them a cut.

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

The Mormon Mafia.

[@omegaduke10]

@@MikeBrown-ii3pt bahahaha you beat me to it! 😂😂🤜🤛

[@TheRowdyRudy]

HHAHAHA "POLLUTING UTAHS AIR" bruh is everyone who breathes & is alive fined 850 grand? Old head politician's need to be exiled from every form of power.

[@ThatGuy3714]

And in our next story the Utah state government has purchased 3 hammers with a price tag of $86,240. They claim that these hammers will allow them to complete construction projects in only half the time it normally takes. That means it will only take 6 weeks to replace a road sign in stead of the normal 12 week process.

[@xpandax1993]

Are we just going to ignore the fact that the “Doctor” has a surgical mask around his neck like a badge of honor 😂😂😂😂

[@BWHeitmann]

x Panda x like they just pulled him out of surgery to do the interview 😂

[@intruder217ESmith]

THANK YOU! I knew I wasn't the only one. Doc looked like a doofus.

[@xpandax1993]

Brandon Heitmann - Could of taken it off 😂😂😂

[@garyvanderwilt3252]

Deisel brothers just rolled coal past his weenie ass

[@butplugger4509]

He died of corona

[@danielcaton716]

"Partnered with nikola motor company" That sure didnt age well😂

[@czhu1729]

HAHAH was looking for this comment

[@gsaexperience8578]

Why what happened?

[@czhu1729]

@@gsaexperience8578 Just look up "nikola motors" -- it turned out to be another huge startup scam (like theranos)

[@danielkingery2894]

@@czhu1729 .....ya...and Solara...remember THAT leftwing scam in SanFran?

[@ajm2193]

That's for sure, I guess do your research before you partner with a company

[@DarronBirgenheier]

Comment sections on such videos are a fun way to play "Coal-Roller Bro Excuses Bingo".

[@agt155]

Don't remember so many crying when VW had to pay out over Dieselgate.

[@justinweaver7553]

Ya, billions

[@jscricca]

Hey buddy, VW paid $2.8B just to the US government...

[@michaelrizzo5492]

I thought they were brilliant

[@nathanbaier9929]

I was pissed they where producing a good car that got good milage and at the end of the day the difference in emissions wasn't shit. 300% increase of 1ppb is 3ppb o my gosh we are all going to die.

[@tehallanaz]

Vw is a Nazi company vw sucks and allways will. Why would I cry about a Nazi company getting fined?

[@Giixxersquid]

Interesting last time I checked they have as much right to that “air” as the government considering the government is suppose to be “for the people”. This is about as stupid as getting in trouble for collecting rain water

[@warbird50]

That’s some bs if I say so. Why not fine everybody in America who straight pipe their diesel trucks. To much crap on these new diesels now days.

[@Doggeslife]

Why not?

[@jpageify]

Sounds good to me.

[@lukejoiner5248]

You do realize it’s illegal to modify emissions on any vehicle right? There just aren’t enough enforcers to catch everyone who removes it so they decided to make an example of diesel brothers to try to deter the other retards who remove their emissions stuff

[@yeetbomb2015]

@@lukejoiner5248 depends on where you are and what you do. Technically speaking changing your exhaust is modifying emmisions

[@Sahadi420]

@@lukejoiner5248 I love how the idiot tries to make it seem OK. "This is only 500-1000 bucks, it bypasses it, and it makes your vehicle create more power." LOL REALLY!?!?!?!!?!?! We thought the smog controls were boosting our power!!!! We thought the big car companies of the 70's just didn't know how to create big power from V8's.....even though the 60's had 1000 HP beasts!!!!! Pay up shit head.

[@BABALAGAJIGAPOO]

Here’s something kind of funny about the whole situation diesel trucks do it’s called a region and when they do that, it lets out all the omissions that was built up that whole time in one place into the environment. It’s all a hoax. It just looks prettier less black out.

[@elmagnificodep]

Utah Logic: Exhaust = Bad Also Utah Logic: Having ten wives and the communes inbreeding = Good

[@noneofthisisreal75]

So you're obviously NOT from Utah! Polygamy is ILLEGAL in Utah, if you want to practice it you have to move to Nevada, Arizona or commiefornia! Moron.

[@8millionnames]

Show your proof of your ignorance

[@elmagnificodep]

swauss mecum Settle down. I know it’s illegal because everything is illegal in Utah. It’s a joke, not a dick. Don’t take it so hard.

[@elmagnificodep]

your real dad It was a joke. Settle down Spanky.

[@8millionnames]

@@elmagnificodep great joke. Must kill at the trailer park.

[@3dcowboy1980]

I bet that the one who started all this drives a Prius and lost his woman to a guy in a jacked up dodge ram with a Cummins!

[@bernardenorth]

Disciples of god; did you know a Prius leaves a much larger carbon foot print then a f-150 on the earth? ... from mining the material, the material them self, moving the material from ground ta production, the assembly lines, transport from assembly to consumer, the emissions from consumer and hopefully once the Prius is trash then the caustic chemicals that go into breaking down the power cell properly. Toyota Prius was one of the biggest hoax ever pulled off

[@3dcowboy1980]

@@bernardenorth thanks for the insight on that. We never think about what goes into something until someone points it out.

[@openyoureyes3113]

maybe she was just getting Power stroke by a Ford man😳

[@bernardenorth]

@@3dcowboy1980 thank you

[@bernardenorth]

@bill bob thank you sir

[@victorriceroni8455]

There is one reason for this: Diesel smoke kills the coronavirus.😉

[@EXTREMERC416]

Lol

[@608trucker4]

You win the internet

[@terryturner3050]

Save the planet, feed the trees! Fake news, innocent before proven guilty. Fake judge, fake society to spark a big payback to the deep state. If we haven't already noticed.

[@joseanponce4603]

ItsRen no u

[@ryan14r95]

TheBeingReal hahahah

[@zachpaw]

You really did them dirty with that thumbnail

[@3ternalvigilance262]

This was shakedown, nothing more.

[@notgunnahaveit6132]

shake down they admited and removed the filters on 30 vehicles... and you think its a shake down.. i guess you dont like to breathe go to china where there is no epa

[@venedimreutov3793]

@@notgunnahaveit6132 some exhaust from all these trucks together is nothing but a drop in the ocean. Its a shake down 100% that fine won't fix anything and the government is reckless

[@notgunnahaveit6132]

@@venedimreutov3793 lol a drop in the bucket 30 vehicles putting out plumes of smog like that .. and you think its ok its not .. go to china go to india and youll see what if left to our devices we will destroy the enviroment if ther eisnt laws its people like you that tgo ohh its ok its just a few people here and there.. its the few that ruin it for the rest of us..

[@banshee8989]

I saw something like this coming a mile away. Rolling coal and being so visible is a bad idea. I blame the people with 1 brain cell who roll coal all over the place as to why we have such restrictive emission regulations now. Its all funny rolling coal on a biker until you realize that biker is a congressman or a judge with friends in high places. Now we all have to pay...... thanks guys.

[@3ternalvigilance262]

@@notgunnahaveit6132 you don't think a fine of that size is a bit egregious? Diesel Brothers cooperated, and fixed the problem. And the majority of the money was kept by the federal government. For what? The EPA is a weaponized and corrupt government agency. This fine, and the way it was handled was absolute b*******. 100% Shakedown

[@kevinbutler1114]

I blame this on all of the Californians who moved to Utah. Whenever they move anywhere else in large numbers, this crap follows them.

[@c.r.n7315]

Kevin Butler They’re even spreading to Texas

[@hectormorones8733]

They got to Arizona also. It’s very annoying

[@jayhickey5012]

I live in Hawaii and it is becoming California 2.0. They come here and the first thing they want to do is change it.

[@jamessebastian9822]

Your famous, your making money, came has put you out there and they want their cut.

[@383SS350]

Just like the mafia

[@sixhundred3score6]

Heavy D is the man. He's even helped with vehicle recoveries in fatal crashes, has the best mountainside snowplow, and the coolest toys of course.

[@sdelony]

Kinda funny government flys plane for no reason and want to fine these young men sad .

[@jaystone766]

They fly for no reason? Son of a bitch, really? 😆

[@jaystone766]

@HeadingEast33 Well, you'll have that superior intelligence come out here on KZbin... 😆

[@cranedaddy678]

The government is the biggest polluter in our country. Kind of ironic these guys profits will go back to said government just to be wasted on more stupid bullshit.

[@jaystone766]

@@cranedaddy678 Break federal laws and put in on TV....hmmmm... 😆 😆 😆