Differences between South Africa & America | Leaving America series🇿🇦

[@TayllorChanise]

✨Clarification: SOME government schools you have to pay for while some are no-fee schools. From what I’ve read online, schools in the low quintile (1-3) are no fee schools which receive most of the funding. While other government schools you (4-5) that are fee based . For instance: Fourways High School, Bryanston primary school, etc are all public government schools in which you do have to pay What is your experience in private or government schools? What are some of your favorites in the Northern Suburbs? How much are you paying? Comment below and let me know ✨

[@SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv]

@@TayllorChanise sorry for pronouncing you name wrong

[@jabulaninkuna747]

Also note that parents who cannot afford to pay at any govt school (fee paying school like Fourways/Bryanston) can also apply at the Education offices to be exempted. They have to prove that they cannot afford to pay. Govt will subsidise them.

[@AmogelangMonaisa]

The thing about the schools where you pay regardless is only depends on which region of South Africa you're living in if you're living in close to the coast of South Africa like close to the sea of South Africa like maybe in Cape Town jo'burg Durban yeah if you live in like close to the Central cities of South Africa you do pay school fees but then when you go deep into Africa like the schools where you don't pay school fees

[@tshiamolebeloane1148]

Regarding the school uniform thing, as a South African, I prefer it, because it hides the privileged and the non-privileged stigma.

[@TayllorChanise]

I believe that’s why my school had a loose dress code also. Uniforms are also just easier

[@chadblu2320]

Its true they did this in urban areas in predominantly black neighborhoods and it did decrease bullying

[@amaxsamaxs]

Also I should add that one of the other reasons children wear uniform is for the school and public to identify the child much easier. Whether they report missing, lost, in crowds etc. This is why uniforms have different colors and school crest (badges) depending on the area its situated in.

[@jedininja3603]

I owe you a like and a sub, thanks for promoting South Africa like this. I have always felt that black Americans and black South Africans do not interact with each other frequently enough with the similar history and lived experience they share. I want to see more of you guys moving here

[@pusomogwera9260]

There is 3 different categories of government schools in SA, level 1 schools are free 100% subsidy from the state, level 2 pays around R1000 per month the rest is subsidiesed by the state, level 3 are former model C schools they pay around R2500 per month

[@ngmn5402]

Amapiono is the recent emerging music. Bubble gums, disco, reggae dominant in the 80s, kwaito in the 90s, South African house in the early 2000, hipop,Rap, Amapiono now, each eleven tribes and more has their own different traditional music

[@karabonkabinde7290]

"There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul, than the way it treats it's children" -Mandela "The great powers of the world may have done wonders in giving the world an industrial and military look but the great gift still has to come from Africa - giving the world a more human face." -Biko "Let South Africa be a model of a more just and more humane future. If you can do it, we will all be able to do it." -Fidel Castro "Never, never and never again, shall it be that this beautiful land will again experience the oppression of one by another, and suffer the indignity of being the skunk of the world" -Mandela South Africa might not be perfect, but it is deliberate about fostering love, peace and unity between diverse people. There might be bumps on the road, but we've made a lot of progress, if even you can notice it.

[@TayllorChanise]

Absolutely agree

[@nemo-rsa]

Well said KB👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@karabonkabinde7290]

The one with the G and q is Gqom 😅 We also have Kwaito (check our Kabelo's "The Beat Goes On" Album). There's also a variety of traditional music.

[@TayllorChanise]

Now how do you pronounce Gqom 😅😅 ok I’m gonna listen. Any other artists or songs ?

[@karabonkabinde7290]

@TayllorChanise Artist | Song Alaska - Fokol Tkzee - Mambotjie Boom Shaka - Lerato Tokollo - It's Alright Alaska - Accuse TKzee - Fella Kae Arthur Mafokate - Vuvuzela Trompies - Malabulabu I'll reccomend more if you enjoy the above 😅 [Tip, Kwaito is all in the bass, so make sure your earphones (or sound system) have good bass for maximum enjoyment😄]

[@Waiting_Patiently]

Hi Tayllor! Great straight forward video! We actually went to school together, and your videos popped up on my KZbin as my husband and I have been thinking about relocating for about a year now. Could you discuss what made you all choose Johannesburg over other places and planning to move to a new country and developing an income plan in a new country?

[@TayllorChanise]

Hey! What school did we go to together? 🥹 But yeah I can make another video as to why I chose Joburg. For now though, if you scroll down on my page you’ll find “10 reasons to move your Joburg”. It encompasses some major reasons but there’s so many more. I’ll do an updated video in February though

[@brianowies4417]

Proudly South African❤🇿🇦

[@hotwings9382]

we have some of the best day carers in the world. even low earning retail employees are able to afford quality day care in their communities. Pre schools are supported by government grants so prices for the parents are lowered

[@khanyisilemjiyakho2062]

Public school pay ipay 1500 for school fees and buy stationery even at my village they pay around 250

[@nthabisengmametja7031]

I’m South African in America, I’m a Stay at home Mom because crèche is expensive. My Husband and I made an agreement that he pays me for Nanny work 🤣🤣🤣. It drives me crazy thinking of paying $4000 ( R73 000) a month for Nanny when I can send that home to my Family in SA. Nanny is $1000 per in Week in New York 😭😭😭

[@TayllorChanise]

Girllll expensive! Lol those kids were about to learn from teacher mommy before I paid that much for preschool

[@benjiza0314]

Government schools are free atleast majority of them... if you pay it could be less than 3k a year

[@TayllorChanise]

Okay, this is more along what I’ve read and heard from friends here. So some have fees and some don’t. But the fees seem to be low if they do have them. Cool

[@benjiza0314]

@TayllorChanise yeah fees are very low... the one my nephew goes to i pay around R1,600 a year! The one down the road my niece goes to its completely free

[@TayllorChanise]

@ that is low! And food is included? Nice.

[@benjiza0314]

@@TayllorChanise Yes

[@tsietsionthego872]

Have to agree with you on safety of small kids in cars. A lot of parents simply don’t care

[@TheGrimjackfromCPT]

Another thing is that in America you have no choice in having car insurance while it is not required here and well American hospitals cost allot of money to get any treatment meanwhile you'll find public and private(basically like American hospital) and the only difference really is that the private hospitals are nicer,have better food if you have to stay for a few days etc

[@nthabisengmametja7031]

People denying that we pay school fees in Public schools. Guys we do pay maybe some don’t, but most we do pay . I went public schools in Soweto and I paid ( R500) a year, obviously it’s not a lot but in comparison to USA, they don’t pay at all unless it’s private. Taxes pay for those schools and their maintenance as well. South African government just need to do better. But what I don’t like about American schools is that if you live in the township, you’re not allowed to go to schools in the Suburbs, kinda Apartheid vibes. In terms of safety, School children are definitely safe in South Africa. In the US it’s mass shootings in schools every week, even two days ago there was a school shooting, Student shot kids in Cafeteria and went on to shoot himself.

[@tshepomogotsi]

@@nthabisengmametja7031 Clarity and understand our country's laws unfortunately missed some. Taylor put it to us that some of her friends pay for "school fees", which is true. She also said that she was of the opinion that "Education" in government schools was free but was informed that it's not, this is absolutely false. There is a difference between a "School" and "Education". "School fees" are NOT paid to the Department of Education or forwarded afterwards as collection, they are paid to the "School's administrators", thus they are called school fees, not a education fee. Even through multiple tiers of schools within the DET's list, NONE, ask parents to pay for education, but for the individual School's admission fee.

[@TayllorChanise]

Yes, the schools are so much more safe. Something that’s super important to me

[@TayllorChanise]

That’s very specific. I said school so I’m talking about school fees. I think you misunderstood or you’re thinking too deep into the top. Also my name isn’t Taylor

[@nthabisengmametja7031]

@@tshepomogotsi I hear you, that makes sense. But if that’s the case that it’s not mandatory and not required by the Government why most of them keep our results or certificates if we don’t pay? And why is the government not paying the administrators?. Poor people shouldn’t be paying at all even if it’s 500.

[@tshepomogotsi]

@nthabisengmametja7031 The Department is only responsible for the Education aspect, and will only intervene with the PTA if it is of national importance, as the Afrikaans School issue that forced the state to introduce the BELA Act. During schooling years, Administrators and Teachers are responsible for drafting quarterly and annual examinations that are with the national syllabus spectrum. They are also responsible for marking Tests and Examinations conducted, within the school, by probably Teachers who taught that specific subject. The state chooses to have no interference in that exercise until the student's Matrix/Final exam, which is published freely on numerous newspapers, regardless if the student in arrears or not. So the administrators have a right, if you choose their School, to withold the results as they are the ones who taught, drafted and marked. The state does not remunerate adminstrators employed by the School, or cleaners and gardners if they were not hired by the department. The 'poorest of the poor', do not pay any fees toward their children's schooling, except uniform, if there is no recycling programme. In every township, location or rural area, it is expected that those children will attend a school within their vicinity. Where necessary, a "Malabese" feeding programme to help poor children receive nutrition is also state subsidised.

[@GenuineRSA]

87% of schools in South Africa are no fee schools. But if you not paying school fees at any school, in most cases it's a shxtty school. Which says alot about the South African economy.

[@luthovellem865]

Your comment is actually shitty because the South African economy has performed better than first world England for the past 15 years even with a growth of 0,8 and even with that measly growth it remains one of the most steadily growing economies in the past 30 years. Unemployment has direct links with education while production capacity and population have a more direct link with the economy. For a country of only 60 million. SA far outperforms many countries in the world with some glaring weaknesses in manufacturing. Inequality unfortunately is a result of a failed manufacturing sector which can only be changed by government policy which could put 25 million people into work in the textiles, and other high value beneficiation sectors in mining and other resource extractive sectors where raw material is simply exported. If you do this the country could quadrippple it's tax base and double it's economy but the ANC is locked into disgusting deals with European countries mainly which prohibit South Africa from expanding its manufacturing base. You put 25 million people into permant work in the manufacturing sector and this country would be first world in the next 20 years.

[@GenuineRSA]

@luthovellem865 I'm not gonna read that my boi😂

[@luthovellem865]

@@GenuineRSA With the quality of your previous statement. I don't expect you to my guy.

[@luthovellem865]

@@GenuineRSA I don't expect you to. I'm giving a brief lecture and your statement did not scream intellectual or academic.

[@judymokgotla5913]

In South Africa public schools are not paying school fees

[@isaacmore4922]

In some you are expected to pay. They are public schools but classified as Section 21

[@tinotendakunaishe7952]

African countries simply don't have the kind of mass shootings that exist in America. It just doesn't exist. In south africa they have crime related gun crime, and gang violence is pretty much just cape town... but honestly most african countries we don't even think about that stuff. In Zimbabwe, we've had a well documented economic depression for 25 years....not a single act of gun violence.

[@siyanda_nino]

Some of the comments here are shocking, my niece is studying in a public school and I'm paying R4500 per year

[@Afrosoil11]

4500/12 = 375😂 like really now. No private school or semi private school you will be paying that amount, that R4500 would be monthly

[@BhutomdalaNdumiso]

Bafo kanje nje stop lies😂😂😂

[@siyanda_nino]

@@BhutomdalaNdumiso okay go to "Adams College" website and check their school fees, you disputing me a person who's been paying the fee since 2023? You brave 😳

[@siyanda_nino]

@@Afrosoil11 Per year or you can't read?

[@siyanda_nino]

​@@BhutomdalaNdumiso go check Adams College website their school fees, you guys need to open your mind abit

[@johntau1630]

20kpm for day care? where are you working?

[@TayllorChanise]

R20,000? Thats how much I was paying in America. It’s about the monthly average per child in daycare back in the states.

[@MahlatseJowie]

Government schools are free.. the catch is the location, if ur in an urban area u will be made to pay..(crowd management) its just like insurance if you stay in urban areas u pay less than someone in townships...😢

[@mrskei-o3o]

south africa have free school idnt know where you get that information

[@TayllorChanise]

Where I live all of them cost even public but there’s a pinned comment for more clarification🤷🏾‍♀️

[@LeratoMthethwaLotto]

​@@TayllorChanise you're right boo, I'm from KZn and I went to public school (a previous model c school) and darn straight we paid school fees and they were not cheap either. But these kinds of schools usually have governing bodies too that assist with some finances that the government doesn't cover. For example I am now a resident psychological practitioner at a primary school and my salary is paid by the governing body as the government doesn't cover that. And that school also has parents paying for school fees. In fact all the public schools ( ex model c) pay school fees. Some are cheaper and some a little pricier. I think it depends on what extra curriculum the school offers. I also think I saw someone in the comments explaining the difference between the public school sectors and what naught.

[@berengsello5645]

I like the fact that you are okay with expensive school fees you are playing for your kids since that is not your country. Hey, South Africa is the best

[@MOLEPO_SA]

Everything public in SA is free, from school to health care

[@NTNMMA]

South Africa has the most racist policies of any country, since apartheid, the ANC has implemented them. But thank you for your perspective on our beautiful country ;)

[@Hlonela100]

You can touch soil back home in Europe

[@NTNMMA]

@@Hlonela100 hi there racist, South Africa is my home. I only have a South African passport.

[@Hlonela100]

@@NTNMMA hi, all it takes is a visa, there's many expats out there, You can relieve us of constant whining, and yourself from having people that don't look like you in charge

[@john-quinmigels8550]

We coloured schools we had a AMERICANDAY which is every Friday which we as learners wear basic clothes that we wear at home than we as learners had to pay a fee 4 our own clothes 😂😂

[@Arti-iChi]

South Africans are so tired of these videos by Americans now... either inaccurate or promoting other Americans to come live here... I like that viral clip on Instagram saying..."South Africans wish our living was still a secret where Americans thought we lived in the jungle and with lions"...

[@jaybailey95]

There's barely any Americans here. So what are you even talking about?

[@nthabisengmametja7031]

Ooh please. Black Americans are welcome in South Africa , we actually need more Black Americans in Africa including South Africa. It’s good for the Black race

[@GenuineRSA]

What a stupid comment, if you don't like it don't watch it😂 Everybody who comes here legally is welcome and some of us are open to constructive criticism.

[@luthovellem865]

This statement is a concoction of ignorance and misinformation. Black Americans are possibly the one group of people who share the most similar historical experiences and everyday lived experiences to South Africans. They are the one group of people who could assist South Africans in reclaiming their economy and forming alternate value chains which means we need to conscientious them about where our struggle is at and the liberties of being in the majority and how we collectively must use this.

[@modestyarielle2918]

I think you are sensitive. It’s not that serious. Be grateful that Americans are actually coming over there.

[@S3npeye]

South Africa is a good country if you were not born there

[@calvinmnisi8762]

We don't pay at government schools in SA. Dont know what government schools pay but in my area, none pay and yes, there's free lunch food too .

[@TayllorChanise]

Interesting, from the people I’ve spoken to they said they paid and the internet said so too. But maybe you don’t pay at all of them! That’s cool. But the free lunch is great, a lot of schools in the states don’t even offer that unless you qualify. It’s a big thing we want for all schools in the States

[@benjiza0314]

Majority of government schools are free... if you do pay then its less than 3k a year!!!

[@nthabisengmametja7031]

We do pay, I paid. Went to public school in Soweto. In America they don’t pay at all. Our Government need to do better

[@jakobblake6860]

The government schools where you do pay are former Model C schools.

[@akaniofmzansi4205]

Difference between South Africa and USA South Africa black majority USA white majority

[@tshepomogotsi]

All government schools are free, just like healthcare. Parents and Teachers Associations in some schools choose to invoke school fees to improve school activities that might be beyond the State's scope, thus, Parents are required to pay monthly fees. It varies from school to school.

[@TayllorChanise]

I wonder why my friends pay at their government school in Northern Suburbs. Interesting!

[@tshepomogotsi]

@TayllorChanise They do not pay for education, it would be corruption if that happened. They are paying for other services provided for @ that School. They are probably buying their children's uniforms too, as IT is not education, but clothes. Any fees charged by the Government, you will not pay at the school premises, but at a government office. Just like you have the US, HOA fees, you do not those fees for your home, but for being inside that community. If your roof leaked, HOAs won't pay for fixes, unless an insurance structure is adopted by that community's HOA.

[@jaybailey95]

This is false. Google is a free tool. Off the top of my head i can name Fourways High, Northcliff High, etc. They all have fees

[@tshepomogotsi]

@@jaybailey95 yes they have fees "SCHOOL FEES", not education fees. Usage of a search engine is not a guarantee of reality, but what you search for, informed and uninformed!

[@fatimawindvoel2253]

We have free education system dear, in public schools....and they do eat free too

[@TayllorChanise]

My friends say they pay for their government school and online it says so too. But it said “schools in the lower quintiles (1-3) have no fees.” So there seems no fee schools and ones with fees

[@karabonkabinde7290]

100% Fatima. I went to government school long ago, and it's always been a practice that we don't pay fees, and the school also provides food. I thought maybe that had changed, I'm happy to find your comment that it hasn't, infact if anything, I noticed the food has improved from the peanut butter sandwich and (fake) milk we got at school back in the day; now children get proper meals. Look, in South Africa the government is obliged to give even prisoners free education and proper food, what more of school children?

[@TayllorChanise]

@ what do you mean by fake milk?

[@karabonkabinde7290]

​@@TayllorChanise I think it was powder milk and not actual cow milk.

[@youme1414]

Why is there hunger in some parts of SA? If what you said is correct. Thank you. No fighting because I know you like fighting with me a lot.

[@youme1414]

Comparing America with South Africa is like comparing day and night. The former is a developed country while the latter is a developing country like Nigeria. SA is not so much different from Nigeria with lot of poor developments. Take good care of yourself. Thank you, ma'am.

[@TayllorChanise]

Not really, SA and the US are actually very similar in many ways

[@youme1414]

@@TayllorChanise SA is a developing country though. Thank you, ma'am.

[@ZoeJamila]

​@@youme1414Chest pain that SA is compared to America😂😂. Ok SA looks and feels exactly like Nigeria if it really gonna make u sleep. Just ask yourself if its the same why many Nigerians are in SA not in Nigeria

[@StreetCornerFilmsAndTV]

@@ZoeJamila💯

[@StreetCornerFilmsAndTV]

@@TayllorChanisefacts

[@BongieBala]

Your information is not accurate my sister,our government schools are free and kids get free meals

[@jaybailey95]

Fourways High School is not free lol you can just look that up. That's just one example, there are many others.

[@TayllorChanise]

No, some are free and some you have to pay for. Based of the quintile system, the country determines how much funding is provided which makes some public schools free and others fee based even if it is a smaller fee. Feel free to fact check me on Google but provide your source so I can look it up as well

[@lgrant30]

Are the schools free for citizens and are not for visa holders?

[@TayllorChanise]

@ per my research public schools in South Africa are judged on a quintile system. Quintile 1-3 typically have free schools and 4-5 are fee based and therefore have a tuition. I misspoke and said ALL government schools are fee based. However, in my area they all are fee based and the people I talk to pay fees. So I assumed it was like that all over.

[@nthabisengmametja7031]

Na she’s right, I paid and I went to a Public school in Soweto , not a lot though 500 a year. But information is accurate cause in the US they don’t pay at all don’t matter where the school is

[@jedininja3603]

I owe you a like and a sub, thanks for promoting South Africa like this. I have always felt that black Americans and black South Africans do not interact with each other frequently enough with the similar history and lived experience they share. I want to see more of you guys moving here