DIFFERENT NAMES, SAME CARS! IMSA, the WEC, and Hypercars

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Aidan Millward

Aidan Millward

Күн бұрын

During the Sebring 12hr on Saturday, there were a lot of people in the chat confused as to where Toyota were, where Ferrari were, and whether the WEC and IMSA are the same thing. And IMSA fans helping out the WEC fans, and trying to ease the confusion.
But at the same time, I'm a bit confused. Because there's so many names thrown around for the top endurance category, but when it all boils down to it... They seem to be the same.
LMDh is one thing, Hypercar is another, but then they enter the WEC as one name together and IMSA as another. So maybe it's not so confusing after all.
But it means things are cheaper, more fun, and fans of both series can go back and forth without having to learn anything new. That's a winner, I think.
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@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Okay, I learned some extra stuff today. Which is good, cos then we all learn. If you’re building an LMDH you need hybrid... But if you’re building LMH and go to IMSA you don’t have to have it. And at Detroit they are having GTP as well as GTD, but I read the P as the D because I'm an idiot. Also Rexy isn't racing WEC because he's in IMSA all year due to driver ratings, and that the WEC uses the same driver rating rules as IMSA, which makes sense. I'll leave these bits here but it won't stop people mentioning because READING IS HARD! Told you it was confusing
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
It is, I have just managed to juggle it all but YEAH! A lot of titles that cover similar items.
@markokozic
@markokozic 6 ай бұрын
@@DuvJones and that the WEC uses the same driver rating rules as IMSA...only GTD Class uses the same rating not the GTD PRO...you can't have all pros in GT WEC anymore
@ralphlyons8020
@ralphlyons8020 6 ай бұрын
I don’t get the no all pro teams in the WEC. So the pro team corvettes that have had a lot of success at Lemans can’t go to Lemans. I just don’t get it. Why did they get rid of all pro teams in the WEC GTD?
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
@@ralphlyons8020 Honestly, as the class ages I feel that their is going to be a pro/am split like the other GT classes.
@markokozic
@markokozic 6 ай бұрын
coz gt3's are great for bronze drivers and they need people with money to be included, if you want all pro's you will have to get a hypercar... I would like that one gt3 car is pro and other is pro am but here we are.@@ralphlyons8020
@dandreani
@dandreani 6 ай бұрын
Also. Sebring being decided on the last 15 minutes between Acura and Cadillac, with 8 cars on the same lap. I think we are lining up with a banger of Lemans this year
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
On the last 15 minutes?
@maybenot6075
@maybenot6075 6 ай бұрын
I watched the whole thing, was a cracking race and the result was up in the air a few times. Some drivers shouldn't be on the grid though some of the driving was pretty poor! @@413TomaccoRoadyes 25mins left after the last safety car & the Cadillac & Acura went to battle till the end, was absolutely brilliant racing that iv never seen in an endurance race, it was like touring cars on steroids with the caddy pulling 5car lengths on the straights and the Acura making it back up under braking. Both putting in close to qualifying laps until they caught the back markers and banging doors with eachother till the acura got passed and managed to stay ahead.
@Haulinbassracing
@Haulinbassracing 6 ай бұрын
i wouldnt say it was decided in the last 15 min when there was 10 hrs of intense racing when accounting for yellows.
@seancswash
@seancswash 6 ай бұрын
The WEC code 60 alternative to the IMSA yellow flags will mean we will never see cars grouping up like in Sebring at LeMans. There is another video in there.
@AlisonCreech
@AlisonCreech 6 ай бұрын
Including the Lambo!
@cco53587
@cco53587 6 ай бұрын
IMSA doesn’t require all GTPs to be hybrid; Aston Martin intends to run the non-hybrid Valkyrie in both IMSA and WEC. It’s also the first confirmed LMH entry in GTP.
@cco53587
@cco53587 6 ай бұрын
@@B__L That’s LMDh rules, GTP is just IMSA’s name for the class encompassing both LMDh and LMH. LMH cars are allowed in GTP but Aston Martin is the first OEM to enter one.
@markmurphy5639
@markmurphy5639 6 ай бұрын
@@cco53587 they can compete in imsa as lomg as they sell enough cars in USA....see glickenhouse as reference
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
It looks like it because the majority of cars in the GTP class are all LMDh's... which is part of the construction has a spec mild hybrid unit. Aston Martin's entry (assuming that it actually happens) would break that perception by being the first LMH, as well as the first non-hybrid to enter IMSA.
@vincenzomartino5648
@vincenzomartino5648 6 ай бұрын
11:21 Peugeot will introduce a wing to the 9x8 for the imola weekend
@asymsolutions
@asymsolutions 6 ай бұрын
I have a certian disdain for stellantis as a whole, but if the blurry spy shots are anything to go by, I'm excited. That lower angled nose with that "917k-ish" rear wing is going to look aggressive AF. The flying mohawk will finally have a muscular fast look to go with it.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 6 ай бұрын
The 9X8 both with and without rear wings are equally gorgeous looking cars.
@SimRacing604
@SimRacing604 6 ай бұрын
11:39 yes we did. Especially here in North America, it’s difficult to watch racing beyond NASCAR, INDYCAR and F1. The Sebring IMSA race was a real treat. Hopefully it sets a trend.
@Pewnhound112
@Pewnhound112 6 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the best part: The racing is brilliant. The last hour of the 12 hours of Sebring was an absolute banger.
@thefizz
@thefizz 6 ай бұрын
That's all I care about is the racing. All the car builds and tech, I don't care for whatsoever as I find all of that boring as hell.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 6 ай бұрын
Way more banger than the whole 2023 and 2024 F1 Seasons and 2023 and 2024 NASCAR Cup Season (except 2024 NASCAR Atlanta and Daytona).
@philkakid5617
@philkakid5617 6 ай бұрын
I live in Sebring, FL, home of the 12 Hours. My son went to the race this past weekend, and I watched it on Peacock. What a race! The first and second place GTP cars (Acura and Cadillac, respectively) were separated by less than a second. AFTER 12 HOURS OF RACING! F1 can only wish for that kind of competitiveness.
@ryancuda45
@ryancuda45 6 ай бұрын
the whole 2024 F1 field is the closest its been since its inception. P1 to p20 is within 2 seconds from q1 to q3. and a few of the cars are overweight and missing 20 to 30 hp, but endurance racing is getting tight too and the bop seems to be working i guess.
@thefizz
@thefizz 6 ай бұрын
@@ryancuda45 That doesn't matter when nobody is close to Max or challenging him for race wins. What matters is the closeness in the races, especially up front, not close qualifying and practice time sessions. You can literally watch all the other motorsport series to see the close practice and qualifying times in a much tighter and closer field than F1 field.
@speedweenie7394
@speedweenie7394 6 ай бұрын
IMSA is the best racing in the world right now. WEC is fun too but the IMSA race officiating (cautions over VSCs or FCYs) makes the racing far closer and more exciting. I agree completely though that the continuity between the two series makes them both way better.
@michawozniak5492
@michawozniak5492 6 ай бұрын
Strongly disagree. IMSA's FCY rule turns Sebring 12 Hrs into 11 1-hrsish. races. If I want to see sprint races I will turn F1 on. If someone has made an advantage in the race on merit by being very good at dealing with traffic why cancel it out every time. I watched whole race and it turns out you could basically watch last 20-30 min. This is not endurance racing.
@speedweenie7394
@speedweenie7394 6 ай бұрын
@@michawozniak5492 yeah idk about all that. IMSA races are far more exciting. Which was a better race? The 2023 Sebring 1000 or the 12 hr. No contest.
@kevinwho.
@kevinwho. 6 ай бұрын
@@michawozniak5492Yep, I enjoy IMSA races but they do feel manufactured. Those 11 and a half hours meant nothing. If you make a mistake and crash someone else for example and get a drive through, it doesn’t really matter at all.
@ronbelanger4113
@ronbelanger4113 6 ай бұрын
A minor national series compared to a global one?
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 6 ай бұрын
I love both series but I think the FIA and WEC have it right with full course yellows. Due to the time needed for a pass around, a yellow and safety car that lasts a minimum of 10 minutes ( and often more) is ridiculous when all that is needed is for marshal to remove debris from the race course.
@grahamgoodwin203
@grahamgoodwin203 6 ай бұрын
Qatar wasn't established in 1812 - the 1812 refers to their national day - 18th December
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Hmm. Sure I heard Hindy say it was for the year.
@grahamgoodwin203
@grahamgoodwin203 6 ай бұрын
@@AidanMillward Hi Aidan - if he did then he was incorrect - It's called Founders Day - info came directly from the Qatari Gov't
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
@@grahamgoodwin203 this is why o love the editor feature in KZbin studio. I can make that bit go away. 🤣
@grahamgoodwin203
@grahamgoodwin203 6 ай бұрын
Very happy to help with this type of stuff in the future - Trust me I know it's complicated!
@ReginaldRennsport
@ReginaldRennsport 6 ай бұрын
@@grahamgoodwin203You should've also told Aidan about the "h" meaning "LMDhusky" :)
@kaiying74
@kaiying74 6 ай бұрын
IMSA is my favourite world series by a mile. I love the way they fall over themselves to let us actually watch the races by making them available.
@AlasdairLowe
@AlasdairLowe 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely - it's so easy to watch. The variety of race lengths and tracks as well is awesome, from 100 minutes at Long Beach to the Daytona 24 - its a proper all round test
@ronbelanger4113
@ronbelanger4113 6 ай бұрын
World series you say, where outside of the USA does IMSA run?
@kem0n0.kokomo
@kem0n0.kokomo 6 ай бұрын
​@@ronbelanger4113Canada! Lol
@_Ben4810
@_Ben4810 6 ай бұрын
Also, it has to be noted that one of the attractions to endurance racing on both sides of the Atlantic is the absolutely brilliant commentary by John Hindhaugh & his team...! He does such a good job, he's informative, fun, listenable, engaging, & in comparison truly puts to shame the Sky F1 production effort by their certain "senior producer", dullard pundits & perma-shouting lead commentator... John proves again & again how motorsport should be presented to the fans (& even casual viewers) & commentated on...👌
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but he’s from Sunderland tho. 😣
@SomeGuysYouTubeAccount1
@SomeGuysYouTubeAccount1 6 ай бұрын
I remember seeing you on the livestream! I remember you mentioning a video for Hypercars/GTPs this Monday, good to see it's happening.
@ananastudio
@ananastudio 6 ай бұрын
3:17 my man is spitting fax 🔥
@alc-d4163
@alc-d4163 6 ай бұрын
I think it's safe to say we've entered another golden era for sportscar racing. Both IMSA and WEC have put on some great races thus far, and there is more to look forward to!
@Chris-et2fm
@Chris-et2fm 6 ай бұрын
Having recently got into endurance racing in late 2022, it's looking good, and it's nice to hear something other than the Netherlands national anthem at the end of a race
@EricW6800
@EricW6800 6 ай бұрын
We had to listen to "god save the queen" for 7 years. Bet you weren't complaining at the time?
@Chris-et2fm
@Chris-et2fm 6 ай бұрын
@@EricW6800 I was, because it's a dirge of a song and I have no desire to save the UK monarchy
@EricW6800
@EricW6800 6 ай бұрын
@@Chris-et2fm 😂 I agree it's not the most exciting series to watch.
@DuvJones
@DuvJones Ай бұрын
@@EricW6800 Oh yeah, she was alive at the time.
@charleshulsey3103
@charleshulsey3103 6 ай бұрын
Sports car racing is absolutely where it's at!!!! All other motorsports need to take notes.
@shinra2755
@shinra2755 6 ай бұрын
New to endurance racing this year. Absolutely loving it. Sebring was outstanding.
@TheSlothNerd64
@TheSlothNerd64 6 ай бұрын
I can see the Peugeot 9x8 be rebadged to like SRT or Dodge. And remember, Qatar was the final race for the Wingless Boi. Starting at Imola, the 9x8 will have a wing on the back. So in theory, you could have a Dodge/SRT 9x8 with a wing, on the IMSA grid in like 2025 or 26.
@thembanjoko2844
@thembanjoko2844 6 ай бұрын
Alpine rebadged as Nissan in IMSA.
@fernando-sl7qm
@fernando-sl7qm 6 ай бұрын
Endurance racing has been so great these years The addition of more manufacturers is just awesome
@msteffenhagen86
@msteffenhagen86 6 ай бұрын
I've been watching both series whenever possible since last year's Sebring weekend. I'm loving it. The crossover between the two is awesome to see too. I'll watch LeMans then just a couple weeks later see many of the same teams/drivers in person at Watkins Glen!
@marklittle8805
@marklittle8805 6 ай бұрын
Biggest issue for us Canadians is no GTP for the IMSA visit to CTMP (Mosport). This makes us sad....
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
It’s no quicker round Mosport than Road Atlanta. Weird.
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
My honest Canadian guest here is that IMSA and the teams simply don't want to deal with customs, because that is a thing.
@_JimS
@_JimS 6 ай бұрын
Endurance racing is just going to keep getting better too......and I LOVE It!
@evangarriott6306
@evangarriott6306 6 ай бұрын
Endurance racing is not gotten better it's only gotten worse they are not as fast they're just safer and slower and easier to drive and Bop tuned which is the worst thing that's ever happened to racing
@M16_Akula-III
@M16_Akula-III 6 ай бұрын
@@evangarriott6306 ....If it stayed like it used to there would only be Toyota, literally no one wants to watch that shit.
@kakarlsen
@kakarlsen 6 ай бұрын
In an interview during Rolex 24, Risi Competizione hinted hard at working on a 499P program for the future. Just hinted, but you know.
@AntoniusTyas
@AntoniusTyas 6 ай бұрын
Giuseppe Risi wants to make sure that 499P platform is stable enough and reliable enough before pulling the trigger on buying at least 1 chassis. I hope 499P got better and better so Risi can be confident enough to run 499P at IMSA. That would be epic. Ferrari v Porsche v Cadillac v BMW in Daytona.
@frdesign6072
@frdesign6072 6 ай бұрын
JUSTICE FOR THE ISOTTA FRACHINI
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Buy their cars so they can go to Daytona!
@pasztorferenc6741
@pasztorferenc6741 6 ай бұрын
I started building of an interest in endurance racing since 2023 Le Mans, and this video helped to clear things of about WEC vs IMSA
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 6 ай бұрын
What drew you to LeMans? General interest or was it because of a certain make such as Ferrari? Ferrari coming back after 50 years was big.
@pasztorferenc6741
@pasztorferenc6741 6 ай бұрын
@@williamford9564 I have a general interest in nearly all motorsports, but the centenary race, proper hypercar grid and Ferrari comeback, also maybe less exciting F1 season
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 6 ай бұрын
@@pasztorferenc6741 WELCOME!
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
Lime Rock has less crashing than one might expect. If/when it happens, it's one car going off and getting trashed or a spin in the grass in the area of the Big Bend and Esses.
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 6 ай бұрын
I sure miss having John Fitch there. Guess we couldn't keep him there forever.
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
@@GregBrownsWorldORacing I've been there 5 times since 1970. The last time was 1999, I never saw him.
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 6 ай бұрын
@@413TomaccoRoad He was probably out running the Salt Flats in a Gull Wing... What a life :)
@aaronmachado13
@aaronmachado13 6 ай бұрын
I’ve also loved how IMSA brings EVERYONE together. You get NASCAR, Indycar, F1 and even dirt drivers all compete at once together. Still wish Mazda prototype program survived long enough to join this new regs
@AntoniusTyas
@AntoniusTyas 6 ай бұрын
Giuseppe RIsi of Risi Competizione said he would love to run 499P at IMSA, but he said Ferrari needs to ensure the stability and reliability of 499P during a whole season, and that requires observing AF Corse running them for at least two years. He acknowledged that these Hypercars are complex, so it pays to take some time to learn. Here's hoping Risi being able to run 499P for Daytona, Sebring and Road America. Also I'm still hoping Honda would consider running ARX-06 at Le Mans, much like the old ARX-03. Which was designed by Nick Wirth, by the way.
@camrsr5463
@camrsr5463 6 ай бұрын
this is the DPi 2.0 era. and it is proving to be very attractive to teams manufacturers and fans. This type of formula is going to find its way to Indycar and maybe others in the future. Indycar NEEDS to attract a third engine supplier. Now that Indy cars are going hybrid with a V-6, I think this will check more of the boxes that a new engine manufacturer requests. the last point/ idea I want to share is about engine commonality between different classes of race cars. I think I am correct in saying that HPD and Ferrari are using engines that can be turned for different cars. The Honda V-6 in the Indycar is very similar to the V-6 in the Acura GTP. The Ferrari V-6 in the 499p is very similar to the 296 GT3. I don't know what the percentage of similarity is but I'm sure someone out there does. Lets call it engine convergence! lol I think the the next 4 years in Indycar are going to be very critical in showing new brands that Indycar is worth investing into. I would also like to see more chassis competition in Indycar....but that might be a bridge too far at the moment. Any thoughts?
@PanderingSlats
@PanderingSlats 6 ай бұрын
Why are IC fans so insistent on a new engine supplier, is it a cash infusion thing? I think identity/personality of the teams and drivers would go so, so much farther than a couple manufacturer decals slapped on the nose cone/engine cover. I introduced a friend to IMSA this weekend and he was completely bewildered by all the classes. imho that's the good and bad of endurance racing, but it's still a lot to take in- there has to be other aspects to hook people: my friend saw Rexy and by his own admission, a cool livery was all it took to develop an attachment to that car. Fans can hope for a new engine but in the meantime, I say putting a distinctive look on a car is infinitely more feasible (e.g. Scott McLaughlin's team mimics the 90's AAR eagle only with a kiwi).
@johncarl5505
@johncarl5505 6 ай бұрын
​@PanderingSlats I wish Indycar drops manufacturers all together. Manufacturers have ruined multiple racing series either by dropping support out of nowhere or banning certain technologies. An example is the American Le Mans Series which died due to the lack of manufacturers. Grand Am won in the end because it didn't rely on manufacturers. Look at the Baja 1000 and Dakar. Dakar is full of stupid rules that help manufacturers, hell the T1+ rules happened because of Audi lobbying. Now look at Baja. They have 1100 hp trophy trucks with insane long travel active suspension and remote tuning. While technological beasts exist in the Baja, due to its relaxed regulations, it is more friendly to amateur teams as well.
@PanderingSlats
@PanderingSlats 6 ай бұрын
@@johncarl5505 it's practically a spec series as it is, and I think Chevy and Honda are in negotiations for a collaborative hybrid powertrain plant- for all we know you'll get your wish.
@pedrobarbosasr
@pedrobarbosasr 6 ай бұрын
When I saw you in the chat I knew a video about it would come. Continue the good work 💪
@LoTs1o
@LoTs1o 5 ай бұрын
I can't watch to your intros without dancing, just amazing
@vincenzomartino5648
@vincenzomartino5648 6 ай бұрын
Quick correction gtp will be at Detroit
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
I read the P as a D. Been one of those days.
@vincenzomartino5648
@vincenzomartino5648 6 ай бұрын
​@@AidanMillward yeah no problem mate. I'm going to Detroit so you gave me a heart attack 😅
@granadi3r
@granadi3r 6 ай бұрын
One extra bit on the regs differences: WEC and IMSA use different wiring looms for scrutineering systems on LMDh. So going between the two series requires swapping a lot of electrical. Lambo this year opted for two different chassis for that reason.
@alexisborden3191
@alexisborden3191 6 ай бұрын
This is the part that annoys me, like, really? Its just electrical bits? Why not just use the same system, or at least compatible systems.
@markmurphy5639
@markmurphy5639 6 ай бұрын
@@alexisborden3191 because option 13
@shenanigans6808
@shenanigans6808 4 ай бұрын
this video was amazing and cleared up a thousand questions i've had about imsa and wec
@jensdandanellrnne-nielsen4259
@jensdandanellrnne-nielsen4259 5 ай бұрын
I've been so confused over this exact topic. Being a big Le Mans fan. And there you go. Now im not! Thank you so much Aidan. You're the hero and bringer of post-confusion bliss :) Cheers from the Denmark Aka mag/gatting land ;)
@sonichockeyaug
@sonichockeyaug 6 ай бұрын
Great video Aidan! I’ve personally gotten really interested in endurance racing, and watched nearly the entire 12 Hours on Saturday. It’s frustrating that Ferrari and Toyota haven’t crossed the pond yet; I hope they reconsider.
@stephenwilliams926
@stephenwilliams926 6 ай бұрын
This type of racing I could watch for 12hrs easy, can't watch 5 mins of F1 😮
@Quixpeed
@Quixpeed 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing the knowledge
@AlasdairLowe
@AlasdairLowe 6 ай бұрын
Endurance is - in my opinion - the best of the motorsport disciplines. I don't watch races from start to finish, I have a family and stuff to do, I cannot simply but 6-24 hours (race dependent) aside to watch in one go. But - for my money at least - there's a wonderful conjoined purity to IMSA and WEC what a wonderful global whole sports car racing has become.
@boyfrmnewyork
@boyfrmnewyork 6 ай бұрын
It was great seeing you in the IMSA chat and getting to speak with you!
@TheProtonist
@TheProtonist 6 ай бұрын
If the wec just streamed it cheaper and without ads, or free like imsa, I'd love to watch them both.
@vatsaldvora
@vatsaldvora 6 ай бұрын
Test cricket fans like me are the perfect target audience for endurance racing!
@heliumtrophy
@heliumtrophy 6 ай бұрын
Endurance racing is just ODI cricket in comparison!
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 6 ай бұрын
Took me a second, then I howled.
@naplesbluesrt
@naplesbluesrt 6 ай бұрын
Also, how does Aidan not have 100k subscribers?!
@jonathangreen3775
@jonathangreen3775 6 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, when he hits 100k subscribers he'll do a video on Roberto Moreno. IDK if that offer still stands though....
@Eagleracer38x
@Eagleracer38x 6 ай бұрын
The wire loom for IMSA and WEC are totally different, and takes 8+ hours to change them out. But, it's still far less money than making a new car. There was a meeting with IMSA, WEC, F1 and IndyCar in 2018/9 something, with the idea of a car manufacturer making one engine and hybrid system, and can run it in all of those series. But, IndyCar is way behind now, but IMSA, WEC are in a good place now.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Indycar has been way behind for an eternity at this point. But I suppose the gatekeepers on Reddit like it and hate it at the same time.
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
Look at Fernando going in the wrong direction at Indy!
@Hustler9g
@Hustler9g 6 ай бұрын
I always thought endurance racing was cool but I've never really legitimately got into it only ever watching lemans. With these new regulations I've been hooked on it. Great racing wide breath of cars and I can go see a bunch of the cars locally in the states. I really hope they don't mess this up for a long while.
@K-SHABAB
@K-SHABAB Ай бұрын
Thank You Thank You So much i was Confused Af
@JohnSmithShields
@JohnSmithShields 6 ай бұрын
This reminded me of a Technology Connections video, not something I'm ultimately interested in, but the presenter makes it interesting.
@grahamgoodwin203
@grahamgoodwin203 6 ай бұрын
LMGT3 does have Driver restrictions - There must be a Bronze-ranked driver and a second must be a maximum of Silver
@motorsportsfan
@motorsportsfan 6 ай бұрын
As for watching different motorsports and explaining it to others in my opinion as follows, F1, F2 etc, Indycar, Nascar is like watching athletes sprint races (BTCC is 3 mini sprints) Endurance racing is like watching cricket. You can have it on in the background whilst doing different things and just keeping a ear/eye on things happening in the race. 😉👍
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Nah. I’d describe it as snooker. Becuase unlike test cricket it’s not shit.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 6 ай бұрын
The final hours of Sebring 12 hours in 2024 is as equally chaotic as in last year, especially when Luis Felipe Derani on the Cadillac, crashed out.
@jbllc6873
@jbllc6873 6 ай бұрын
I’ve thought for years the 2 series should combine.
@donholmes4476
@donholmes4476 6 ай бұрын
A 1970s Lola T70 and a GT40 & a Ferrari 512S are three completely cars from the ground up! A 2024 WEC/GTP cars are all build identically with only minor body fabrications and dashboard panels. As for the engines they each sound the same too!
@Woodie-xq1ew
@Woodie-xq1ew 6 ай бұрын
Sebring is bloody bumpy in sim, I can’t imagine what it’s like in an actual race car. I bet the dentists near the track must make a mint 😂
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
You mean the ones not on the track?
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Sebring plus Rf2’s ffb on a simucube is not fun.
@Woodie-xq1ew
@Woodie-xq1ew 6 ай бұрын
@@AidanMillward direct drive wheels, making wrists sad everyday
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
@@Woodie-xq1ew after the 8hr charity race I did mine were sore for a week. 🤣
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 6 ай бұрын
You just know the local Chiropractors are also rubbing their hands together every time March comes around.
@drivingglassesfb
@drivingglassesfb 6 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see Peugeot's Evolution of the 9X8 with a rear wing at Imola. I'm hoping they may have got it right as they have a history of doing that, create the car, lose with the car, redesign the car, win with the car.
@bjarulez
@bjarulez 6 ай бұрын
I caught the bug with the first Le Mans i watched, cant remember the year but it also decided my all time dream car, the McLaren F1, i had recently decided to be a McLaren fan in F1 because of the Hakkinen/Schumacher battles in the late 90s and then i watch bits of this really long race that i didnt understand but i found it absolutely awesome, never looked back
@TheAlphaDingo
@TheAlphaDingo 6 ай бұрын
Would be pretty epic to see the WEC Hypercars like Ferrari and Toyota do the Rolex 24. Similarly, seeing the Acuras among others at Le Mans would just add even more cars to a stacked top class. Can't wait to see WEC and IMSA both grow and develop over the coming years with renewed interest, more teams and races
@scsmith4604
@scsmith4604 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the Mazda MX-5 Cup in IMSA has some of the best racing I have seen.
@andrewwinslow9315
@andrewwinslow9315 6 ай бұрын
LMGT3 has the same rules as the Am Class of GTD for drivers.
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 6 ай бұрын
I wondered about that when he said it. You are correct.
@jimmyjiang3413
@jimmyjiang3413 6 ай бұрын
If one day Lone Star Le Mans does not get renewed, it would always be nice to have a full WEC race in a full-fledged FIA Grade 1 street circuit due to cost of build, and it would be nice to race the NA round permanently in either Montreal (Gilles Villeneuve), or permanently in Mexico (Hermanos Rodriguez) due to high latitude and high elevation respectively, thus to make it the ultimate challenge for LMH/LMDh and LMGT3 alike.
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 6 ай бұрын
Gotta love Sebring, the surface is as rough as a cob and they want it left alone (as do I) glad you watched it. Watch this17 year old North Carolina native Connor Zilisch who has won the Rolex 24 and Sebring in LMP2 and will run COTA Next week in a NASCAR.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that they’ll only resurface it when it’s genuinely not safe and there’s some sort of local or Florida state law that says this to protect it. But that might just be one of those internet myths.
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
​@@AidanMillward Given that it's an old World War II Air Base, Sebring basically gets treated as a memorial site. One that's constantly in use, and has to be preserved.... I fear the day that comes when Sebring is so unsafe that it has to be rebuilt...
@RE_BELLION
@RE_BELLION 6 ай бұрын
The LMH Valkyrie has virtually nothing in common with the road car, other than the name and both being V12's. It is built to the prototype ruleset like all the other LMH vehicles, rather than the road-car based rule set which is far more restrictive. The LMH Valkyrie will be far more similar to the AMR Pro track car, which itself was based on the original Valkyrie LMH before it got cancelled.
@km6832
@km6832 6 ай бұрын
10:00 : the cars are the same. The porsches in WEC and the ones in IMSA are the same cars so the lap times the WEC cars make will be the same as the IMSA cars
@anthonyw5261
@anthonyw5261 6 ай бұрын
This would be amazing 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏!!!!!!!!! Hopefully all this will happen and broadcasters will show it.
@alexandro5961
@alexandro5961 6 ай бұрын
..."If you can not win them joint them "...
@BetterThanSparksYT15
@BetterThanSparksYT15 6 ай бұрын
12:34 u bagged a good one Aidan
@superduperbooper3987
@superduperbooper3987 6 ай бұрын
This might be a bit of a hot take and you do not have to agree if you don’t want to. I finally have a first criticism of the WEC. I do not like that they are kicking out some teams because they need more space for the bigger teams. I think they should limit each team (not manufacturer) to one car each. For example, there could be more than one Cadillac but only one Ganassi Cadillac and only one Whelen Cadillac. That’s just my opinion.
@RA109E
@RA109E 6 ай бұрын
The new WEC/IMSA regs are perfect. It is the equivalent of what Motoamerica superbike and supersport are to world superbike and world supersport. No learning new regs, or anything crazy. You can just drop in, watch and enjoy.
@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON
@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON 6 ай бұрын
Next week Aidan explains quantum physics.
@EddieVanAidan
@EddieVanAidan 6 ай бұрын
LMH, LMDh, LMP1, LMP2, DPi, GTP, GTD, LMGT3, IMSA, WEC, BoP. It's all so simple!
@RubyRoks
@RubyRoks 6 ай бұрын
Full support manufacturer entry Hypercars, private party entry and/or partial support manufacturer entry Hypercars, a category that no longer exists so don't worry about it, spec chassis downforce prototype cars, a category that no longer exists so don't worry about it, The IMSA class that Hypercars run in, the IMSA class GT3s run in, the WEC class GT3s run in, the sanctioning body/series for US endurance racing, the sanctioning body/series for global endurance racing, keeping cars from being uncompetitive. It's not as hard to figure out as you make it seem.
@mikepod637
@mikepod637 6 ай бұрын
I find it interesting you don’t “prefer” endurance racing. So much to learn every race it’s just a fountain of racing knowledge
@franklinkz2451
@franklinkz2451 6 ай бұрын
You should do a piece on how driver hires by IMSA teams for the endurance races proves Nascar drivers arent great racers since they are never recruited to fill in for other teams, they will hire indy lights before even considering a driver from the top stock car series
@mrbloodmuffins
@mrbloodmuffins 6 ай бұрын
NASCAR Cup drivers are probably both very expensive to hire and their teams may (with some exceptions like Kyle Larson) prohibit their drivers from racing in other series by contract.
@lucaspiredda7677
@lucaspiredda7677 6 ай бұрын
No shit, those guys have been racing stock cars in ovals and dirt tracks for their whole life, of course they don't have the experience and expertise when it comes to endurance racing in a road course. Indy Lights prospects on the other hand have been racing in junior formulae in the US and most of the time also have experience in Europe. Because of their age, some of them (the under 20s and even under 18s) classify as Bronze drivers, so they are a cheatcode of some sort, given that you have an 'amateur' driver that is a pro in the making, circumnavigating the need to put a gentleman driver in the car. When it comes to the top class of prototypes, you rarely see very young drivers racing there.
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 6 ай бұрын
They are usually busy doing their day jobs, for this past weekend - they were testing & qualifying in Bristol, TN on Saturday. You can get a few NASCAR stars for Daytona 24 because their season has yet to begin. Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Jamie McMurray, Dale Jr, (A.J. Allmendinger & Kyle Larson - still active) come to mind.
@alexmaccain2362
@alexmaccain2362 6 ай бұрын
You seem to forget Nascar races roadcources
@Xtonishing
@Xtonishing 6 ай бұрын
LMH : Toyota, Ferrari Peugeot & Isotta Fraschini. (Retired Glickenhaus & Vanwall) LMDh : Acura, BMW Cadillac, Porsche, Alpine & Lamborghini Private Customer : JOTA, Proton Competition, JDC Miller & AF Corse
@minibus9
@minibus9 6 ай бұрын
awesome video
@Mysterion157
@Mysterion157 6 ай бұрын
It's a great time to be a fan. Now WEC just needs to get out from behind that paywall that I'm tooooootally respecting
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
I might get a day pass or whatever for Le Mans. Same for Indy.
@DJDouglasWarden
@DJDouglasWarden 6 ай бұрын
Great video thank you.
@Frostfly
@Frostfly 6 ай бұрын
The reason given for not running both events at Sebringwas WEC felt the logistics of running both events at the same time made it too difficult to meet what they felt their market wanted. Essentially WEC had to conform to IMSA's schedule, and didn't feel like the headline event. Some out of date info. Peugeot is getting rid of the wingless car. Suppose to deploy a car with a wing in the next WEC race. Vanwall was turned down by WEC in 2024 for ungiven reasons. and Glickenhaus has dropped out. The best part of WEC and IMSA is how accessible they are. They post the races on KZbin so you can spend all week watching them.
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
There was also a bit of marketing confusion in regards to that, because the WEC headliner was the 1000 miles of Sebring (an 8 hr race) while IMSA always had the 12 hours of Sebring... on quite literally the same weekend... the WEC was never particularly happy with that arrangement, because it makes their global round feel like a support race. So after last year they left, deciding to do their American round at COTA instead.
@alfamaize
@alfamaize 6 ай бұрын
As nice it is for LMP2 to exist, it would be more fun if the GTP class was so big that the field fillers weren't needed. Super nice to see the crossover, that's is for sure.
@SetsunaTheFandom
@SetsunaTheFandom 6 ай бұрын
On another note, there were about 450k views for the Sebring 12 livestream on KZbin. I assume that, when everything clicks, it'll be possible to have a "main event" endurance race livestreamed on KZbin viewed by 1 million people live. This would be basically the endurance racing version of all those Taylor Swift The Eras Tour "fan livestreams" you'd see on either here or TikTok.
@maxb148
@maxb148 6 ай бұрын
The reasons for WEC not racing at Sebring this year are 1) Qatar paid to host the first race, 2) it would then be a big effort to go from Qatar to Sebring then back to Europe doesnt make economical sense and 3) WEC doesnt want to play second fiddle to IMSA, being an FIA World Championship. Also one thing to add for new fans, for any teams wanting to run at Le Mans be it from IMSA, ELMS, AsLMS or GTWC, the car has to be running in WEC and is why Acura cant run at Le Mans in Hypercar or any Mercs or Audis in LMGT3. And a great thing about the crossover between series, gaps between endurance races are quite long, so watching both series keeps the downtime between races quite short in comparison to watching just WEC for example but is still quite long going off F1 gaps between races.
@neblolthecarnerd
@neblolthecarnerd 6 ай бұрын
Some smaller differences ive noticed between imsa and wec in terms of the racing: Imsa has more opportunities to take laps back with wave arounds than wec (partly due to not having virtual safety cars) which means in general the pack is close for most of the race and often comes down to a short dash at the end. Also imsas lmdh bop seems to be tighter since the cars seem more competitive with each ither than in wec (also it seems like the performance of cars is more consistent in imsa whereas in wec sometimes it feels like at least to me that cars get a massive bop boost/nerf or something and change competitiveness completely)
@rexthewolf3149
@rexthewolf3149 6 ай бұрын
The lmdh cars have tighter BOP due to them very similar to each due to how that regulation class works.
@cosmostrek2001
@cosmostrek2001 6 ай бұрын
one is left hand drive the other is right hand drive.
@EricW6800
@EricW6800 6 ай бұрын
Great detailed insight 👍🏼
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Fucked some bits up but that’s what the editor is for.
@matthewpuleo9307
@matthewpuleo9307 6 ай бұрын
Do you think if I got on my knees and begged at their HQ, Polyphony would add more GTPs/hypercars to GT7?
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 6 ай бұрын
Give it time and LOTS of dosh.
@F2007KR
@F2007KR 6 ай бұрын
No, but you can get a new variant of the Skyline GTR.
@alexisborden3191
@alexisborden3191 6 ай бұрын
Is it just the toyota or are there any others? Either way, they definitely should. And iRacing should get the Lamborghini, get back to having the full GTP field again. Also excited for AMS2 getting the IMSA cars, its gonna be good to have one that's more single player focused.
@matthewpuleo9307
@matthewpuleo9307 6 ай бұрын
@@alexisborden3191 the only hypercar/GTP is the Toyota GR010. All other top class endurance cars are either Group C or LMP1
@ShaneBurke17
@ShaneBurke17 6 ай бұрын
It isn't as easy to bring a WEC car to IMSA for example. It's actually a reasonable sized job as the loom etc has to be changed as how WEC and IMSA reads BoP is completely different.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Still, few hours to replace a wiring loom versus designing and building a whole new car. I’ll take it. 🤣
@pavise6333
@pavise6333 6 ай бұрын
12:02 If that happens, I don't mind kicking the GT class to make more slot for the hypercars
@gianlozano102
@gianlozano102 6 ай бұрын
Is it like FIBA and the NBA? Same sport with slightly different regulations.
@AlisonCreech
@AlisonCreech 6 ай бұрын
LMGT-3 = GTDPro = GTD. And that's a bit of a problem for IMSA. If I was a large manu, i certainly wouldn't want a car with a bronze or silver driver anywhere near my car (and my star drivers) at the end of the race. That was the beauty of GTO/GTU, GT/GTS, GTP/Camel Lights, etc. Separation of classes. LMDh (LeMans Daytona hybrid)= GTP - jam an engine in there, and send it to the styling team. LMH (LeMans Hypercar) - Bespoke cars; with or without hybrid; large manu or boutique. Would still be called LMH at Daytona. I did not know about the IMSA wing rule. I'll look into that, thanks! Was sad to hear today that Ganassi and Caddy are parting ways. Will CGR be the factory Ferrari team in the US, or something more bold like...the Dodge 9X8...prolly renamed to "Viper"..? These are, indeed, great days for endurance racing.
@mackenziegalajda8601
@mackenziegalajda8601 6 ай бұрын
You made lmgt3 is similar to gtd you must have 1 gold or platinum, silver, bronze driver
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Addressed in pinned comment.
@laurenmp7486
@laurenmp7486 6 ай бұрын
And the situation now is a similar to the 80s, when there was FIA Group C and IMSA GTP and they were effectively identical cars just with some different specs as far as fuel consumption and other stuff. But a Porsche 962 in one looked like a 962 in the other, because the were effectively identical cars. Granted over time the rules diverged, but the chassis and bodies remained the same between the two.
@alexisborden3191
@alexisborden3191 6 ай бұрын
962s in IMSA and WSC had different engines, some were single turbo some were twin turbo, some were the same engine as the 956, some were 2.7L, some were 2.8, some were 3.0 some were 3.2. They were pretty different, I mean, the WSC cars were called 962Cs and the IMSA cars just 962s.
@jimmyjiang3413
@jimmyjiang3413 6 ай бұрын
I would like to see when AMG returns to sports car racing due to cost cap of F1, and make second gen AMG One while still meeting NHTSA safety standards, and make it qualified to LMH standards. Gone the F1-derived engine, and put the same old 6.2L flat plane v8 in place, the same way AMG GT3 does, and make it E-performance sports hybrid.
@Yosh1az
@Yosh1az 6 ай бұрын
Ferrari rumoured to enter their 499P to IMSA with Risi Competizione but Risi lack the necessary monetary funds and technical skills to run those cars.
@caphowdy666
@caphowdy666 6 ай бұрын
I think the comparison between F1 and Indy is less about the cars and about the closed door nature of F1. Yes F1 teams can't run their own car, but it is relatively easy for them to buy an off the shelf chassis and do a deal with an engine supplier to run at Indy, Indy teams though would have to build their own car and even then get denied entry. The F1/Indy similar but different is repeated somewhat in bike racing too. The different superbike championships where they use variations of road bikes means it would be easier for teams to make guest appearances or run teams in multiple championships, but it would be a lot more difficult for them to run in Moto GP as they would need a whole new bike. Touring cars also makes it incredibly difficult. A Hyundai in BTCC and TCR are completely different for instance.
@ronbelanger4113
@ronbelanger4113 6 ай бұрын
Indy is a spec series, F1 is not.
@caphowdy666
@caphowdy666 6 ай бұрын
@@ronbelanger4113 Thats what I just said. It's easy to buy a chassis.
@zebbiezebra3055
@zebbiezebra3055 6 ай бұрын
on the, load a car up and go between series its not quite as simple, as they have completely different wiring/logging looms for BoP monitoring, which takes a few days to change over and also some other changes like the position panels
@MarioP9511
@MarioP9511 6 ай бұрын
There's not a Hypercar car, Hypercar is the name of the main WEC category, it includes LMH and LMDH. On IMSA the LMDH are called GTP.
@WinstonPinetorum
@WinstonPinetorum 6 ай бұрын
How many views did that international stream on KZbin get? I was at the race and the experience was amazing
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
17k I think.
@WinstonPinetorum
@WinstonPinetorum 6 ай бұрын
@@AidanMillward I was expecting at least 50k but they should gain some momentum over the season.
@apparentlyretrograde
@apparentlyretrograde 6 ай бұрын
So you use iRacing, support the Toronto Blue Jays, have a dry sense of humour, and you're even in the Bortposting group. You must be a long lost relative of mine or something. Keep up the great videos.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
I love that group.
@MadRS
@MadRS 6 ай бұрын
It's great that IMSA and WEC are melding their criteria so cars can run in both Championships. I just wish they would agree on class names and it would be really great if they could have a proper title like Hypercar. I'm so sick of acronyms and for people wanting to get into watching the racing it's not as intimidating. It's like starting a new job where everything has an acronym and for the first month your looking like an idiot having to ask what the acronyms stands for.
@jeffstockinger1814
@jeffstockinger1814 Ай бұрын
Why don't Toyota and Ferrari show up for the rolex at daytona? Seems like a natural way to start your season without affecting their wec season
@AnimaDweller
@AnimaDweller 5 ай бұрын
It almost feels like WEC is the one series where the FIA actually does most stuff right without meaning to and F1 is the series they try really hard and somehow always mess it up.
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