Digimon World 2 is Terrible, but I Love it? || A Retrospective

[@logainwolfe1988]

The game even has the Digimon equivalent of "Mew is under the truck at the S.S. Anne harbor" with "Kimeramon has a 1/666 chance of spawning on the 99th floor of Tera domain."

[@CrystalPapa]

Oh I know it quite well 😅. I've made an entire video about Kimeramon 🤧.

[@SpeechlessWolf]

There's a lot of attack names that were changed, Party Time is Unchi in Japanese, which just means poop, Sad Water Blast is Sorrow Blue, Hyper Flashing is Enigma, Protect Grenade is Destruction Grenade, which is literally the opposite of protecting, etc.~ Some of the names do come from the dubbed anime, but for others, like Party Time, I have no idea what they were thinking~

[@CrystalPapa]

@@SpeechlessWolf I dunno, it seems like they knew exactly what they were doing 🤧. But Protect Grenade is interesting, I always wondered about that name.

[@TheReZisTLust]

"Theres a Party in my pants and moms invited"- Babies probably

[@vinzseika9826]

Digimon World 2, along with 3 and Card Battle is my favorite PS1 game. Eventhough i never finished the game, i love the dungeon crawling aspect and the 3 vs 3 battle. I can say that this game is the foundation for future digimon games, especially the digimon stories and cybersleuth franchise

[@CrystalPapa]

It's crazy how much inspiration modern Digimon games took from World 2!

[@pokelypsenow]

Long comment from a Digimon nerd: Digimon World 2 It's a Game with a interasting plot that somehow gets Lost in the grind nightmare, and other silly stuffs related to the Game. A Game that needs a remake in the style of Cyber Sleuth, with all the lore of the current Digimon franchise. The Digital World 2 of World 2 It's just a simulation created by humans. Somehow this simulation started to get "real". The God of this World, Gaia traped all humans inside this simulation, while plans to control all the Digimon too. Your character It's just another human sended to this World to help the people. But Akira can't scape. And like all others humans, Akira gets amnesia. So Gaia, this evil fake god whispers to all Digimons in this World to them to become wild. This World It's like a military dystopia. The people in the high Ranks are more "closed" to the true of this World. Infact, only chief Carol knows that they are just sleeping in the real World just like SAO. Crimson it's seems as evil because he knows the ultimate truth of this World: that they are all inside a simulation. This fact It's important because it may change our perception of this character. Sadly, the Game didn't make something interasting with this plot at all.

[@powwowken2760]

I know people rightfully hate the level caps in this game... But I kind of love it. I usually got around the stress of it by having 2 "main Digimon" slightly off from each other so I could use one to rapidly level up the other post dna-digivolution and using my third slot for a fodder mon that I I'd raise up to to a level breakpoint (usually level 15 for the +3 level cap)... Of course, the fact that I still remember all this 20+ years later might not be a good sign, playing the early Digimon games optimally required mor studying than your average exam.

[@viruschris3160]

Digimon World 1 is still my favorite DW game of the PS1 days. Even with the newer one with improved mechanics I still go back to this classic. Especially after learning all the ins and the outs that make the game incredible. The pre-rendered backgrounds and the way you move around in the world is best. And it’s based off of the original V-Pet which is where most of its mechanics is from. With Digimon World 2, even with the strategy guide it did take me time to beat the game. Despite the many headaches I had to go through it with I got my Veemon to Imperildramon and beat the game. Agumon was my starter. The bugs sucked especially Return and Memory. Even still I love this game. It was an odd game, but I wouldn’t mind a remastered with fixes to the speed of the game. And never got the hidden Digi Beetle parts which you need to talk to certain NPCs 99 times to get each of the parts. So tedious. I wouldn’t mind playing it again with a different team.

[@screwtokaiba]

Digimon World 2 is kinda curious since like for how much "problem" its said and did have, its easilly the most enduring concept the series had outside of World 1 The systems are later used in Story and Cyber Sleuth. For how infamous the 9999999999 system are, its something the entire story series of games used And like generally when talking about monsters games few mentioned the sheer influence DQM had to the overall genre and its particularly relevant here because Digimon World 2 is like the most blatant DQM1 "rip off" ever. Almost everything about World 2 can basically be traced back into DQM1, down to the most ridiculous details like how DP as a mechanics works EXACTLY like +s(Like DP, Pluses are increased eveerytime you breed into a new monster and can influence results, for example, at DP5, Slime would breed into King Slime). The fact that catching monsters involves giving gifts, beat them up, then the one you beat up LAST is the one you get. The level cap? yeah DQM had that too. They also both used randomly generated dungeon(DQM didnt use overworld enemy though Another is like, im never particularly heavy into World 2 Vanilla, so i don't know if this is something Vanilla 2 also do, but in Alternative rom hack, the overall fusion results are based on a table of Digimon Races So for example, "internally" Agumon is a Dragon. Veedramon is a bird. If you combined Agumon and Veedramon, you'd get Vaccine Type Bird-Dragon. Veemon is the Rookie result for "bird Dragon". And yeah the reason why Phoenixmon is the mega are supposed to make sense for Veedramon is because internally Veedramon is a bird. Supposedly the entire Veemon line EXCEPT Veemon is actually Bird(including Flamedramon and Raidramon). Veemon is Dragon(although it mostly doesn't matter) Looking at DNA calculator though this system seems to be a thing in Vanilla. Checking some fusion results: Greymon + Tuskmon - Dragon x Dragon - Vaccine = Agumon Greymon + Monochromon and Tyrannomon - Dragon x Dragon - Data = Elecmon(who mostly evolves into Data Dragons). Similarly Monochromon + Master Tyranomon also results on Elecmon since theyre both Dragons and Data type wins out World 3 was honestly the one game in Digimon who actually are wearing the Pokemon influence fully(it had the exact "fight gyms to be the best" pattern). Digimon from the get kinda saw a lot more SMT influence if anything(and World 2 specifically is just DQM).

[@CrystalPapa]

Thanks a bunch for all that detailed info, Kaiba! I've never played DQM 1, but it seems like the Devs definitely did 😅. The DNA results stuff is also quite intriguing.

[@kirova2193]

Amazing Video!, I would love to see you do a full video on Digimon World 2 Redux, a revamp mod which fixes alot of the weird difficulty issues in the fights, adds better dialogue, and even puts in some new digimon to spice things up, I always found myself dropping out of the original digimon world 2 while trying to finish it cause of nostalgia, But the mod really spiced things up enough for me to finally finish the entire thing. Might want to give it a shot :D

[@CrystalPapa]

I am glad you enjoyed the video, Kirova! :D I do know about the World 2 Mod, and I do intend to get to it eventually. Maybe not right away, but definitely soon! 😇

[@pennylessz]

​@@CrystalPapaAs someone who beat 2 but could not ensure a second playthrough, even with that mod. I would also appreciate a video on that.

[@CrystalPapa]

@@pennylessz Well I'll try to get around to it soon, then! :D

[@thesaltyweeb]

Not gonna lie man I loved the hell outta DMW2 as a kid... I remember grinding it out to get an Imperialdramon via a guide I printed from the internet! Strangely my Imperialdramon was the strongest Digimon I had and everyone else were weak and I was really thinking why... Alas I never beat the gane since my copy snapped... Then a few years later I played Dragon Warrior Monsters for GBC and it was just like DMW2 but much streamlined! Here I learned the breeding mechanic and how to make your monsters stronger and it reminded me of DNA Digivolving here! When you breed monsters too you get a + symbol on their stats and it increasing their level caps!

[@CrystalPapa]

Good job on getting that Imperialdramon back then! Must've taken a lot of work! I never could manage it myself as a kid 😅.

[@thesaltyweeb]

@@CrystalPapa thanks man! Imperialdramon was worth the effort! I remember using him against my friend's Wargreymon and won!

[@viruschris3160]

You got Imperialdramon, too? I had the strategy guide book and worked my tail off getting Veemon then Flamdramon, Raidramon and finally his Mega. Worth it. Beat the game with him. I wish DW2 in way despite the grinding, but if I replay I’m using mods to speed it up next time.

[@thesaltyweeb]

@@viruschris3160 sure did man! Shame his fighter form isnt here but his dragon mode is more than enough for the main campaign! Yeah same here, if I'll go back I'll get a speed up for the game as well as its slooooooooooooooooooow

[@crowhaveninc.2103]

The Digimon games are all rough around the edges in some way or another, but I feel like they all have a weird cosy vibe. DW2 included. Sure, it's slow as hell. But sometimes that's just what you need. You can easily put on a podcast or a movie while playing this game and grinding it out.

[@digitaladventurer2142]

First PS1 game I had as a kid and I loved it. Literally spent 300+ hours on one file. Looking back now though I realize like 275 of that was tedious grinding do to the games horrible leveling system.

[@CrystalPapa]

Yeah that sounds about right 😅.

[@Mystic-Aidan]

Great video! Hopefully you get around to covering other Digimon games in the future, preferably ones that are actually good.

[@CrystalPapa]

Glad you liked the vid, Aidan! Yeah I am definitely gonna get around to covering the other games soon!

[@Zero_Unit]

16:18 Yes, Crimson did it 1 year before Tamers.

[@CrystalPapa]

Dang, Crimson was an Innovator!

[@reygamingchannel1505]

After 140 hrs and barely getting Metal Garurumon and Wargreymon 😅😂 this game is too savage...but I Love It! 🎉❤ great video!

[@CrystalPapa]

Glad you enjoyed the video, Rey! :D

[@Trauson]

I thin kthe biggest thing in comparison with the other game is just no one expected to be a JRPG, I think they never bringed it to europe, so I couldnt play it, but they bringed 3 and called it Digimon 2003 xD which I think is the better experimentation on this concept. This definetly screams Shin Megami Tensei inspired

[@CrystalPapa]

Well if you got World 2003, you did get the definitive version of World 3, with all the cut content, so that's something nice at least! ☺️

[@Trauson]

@@CrystalPapa xD I did not know that and it was a game from my Childhood, Ive actually recently uploaded a guide on how to get Op in the 2003 version instead of the 3 version xD Maybe that might cause some issues if I dont know which ones are the exact changes that happened. But I guess if 2003 is the definitive edition then Ill say Ill stick with what Ive already uploaded

[@FlameBunny]

this game was easy if you train too hard, there is a hard mode romhack, 14:15 you can get that chest by opening it from an angle, traps aint too bad if you just upgrade your tank to see where they are, dealing with traps is a different story.

[@AssassinRFP]

Good Videos, hits the nostalgia, but once i hit the heavy grinding and long dungeons i quit lol.

[@CrystalPapa]

Yeah even for me, the nostalgia tends to go out of the window around the Piyotte quest part 🤧. But I am glad you enjoyed the videos! :D

[@murabitojames]

*looks at title* lol same Great video!

[@CrystalPapa]

This title came from the heart, for sure 😂. I am happy that you enjoyed the vid, Murabito! :D

[@murabitojames]

@@CrystalPapa I personally prefer to call it "a piece of garbage, but it's my piece of garbage" myself 😂

[@individualywrappedcheeseslices]

Funny script 😂. Sub earned

[@CrystalPapa]

Glad to have you here! ^_^

[@tinruzic2245]

i know the game is grind tobe honest i liked it :)

[@CrystalPapa]

We in the same boat, I guess 😇.

[@overlordlaharlyun5444]

Digimon world 2 but the digirap is the only bgm

[@JunKurosu]

😱

[@CrystalPapa]

I personally don't dislike the Digirap 😅. But I think multiple hours of it would make me go insane pretty quickly 😂.

[@shirlynkiki1401]

I totally agree, this game really is an ugly b-tard, but still one of my favs 💝😂 ever since 2011 I've played it all the way thru several times now

[@BladeSerph]

To be fair, the game at this point is 20+ years old, about 24 years and 2 months to be more specific which really goes to show how much of a 2 and a half decade gap the PS1 era of games are to the PS5 (or even the PS4). Playstation 1 and 2 definitely had plenty of gems and i would say Digimon world 2 is just an example of dungeon-like play with 3D graphics before things were perfectly refined. Plus how the Digimon brand wanted to focus more on trying different things which i felt was one of its strong suites since they came out with alot of stuff that may of not been good per-say, but likely were amongst some of the flops to lead to other things refining those genres in other ways by building off whatever it failed at. Now a days, games have so much power put behind them so they would need to rebuild plenty of PS1 and 2 era games from scratch to actually be able to interact with the capabilities later gaming hardware can put out to result in a massive speed up. Even showing how many conviences many games get as a norm these days were not exactly present in those more arcadic times...Such as how some more recent titles can get flipped off if they have a large `open world` like game and they decide NOT to include a fast travel feature. Either way, if we had more dungeon crawlers made in a similar motif as digimon world 2, i would likely find them interesting, such as some other PS2 and PSP titles like Guided Fate Paradox, Zettai hero project, the pokemon mystery dungeon series, because those were always a fun examples of what were the percursors to what were rogue-likes in general, before they went 100% in full swing with meta progression and reset on entry progression based elements. But seriously, at how he pointed at the `slow animations` for attacks, this is more of a example of the attack being qued up and then firing it off, just like how pokemon did it back in the day, which you can really notice the problem even in more recent pokemon games still to this day, since just like certain older yugioh games back on the game boy advance era, they were made to likely do a bunch of checks which resultedi n sluggish parts. Example: Digimon world 2 had the ability todo things like counter attacks against other enemy actions aka actions that could interrupt your own, so on a Playstation 1 level of clunky hardware, it would take time to process those kinds of things and do something like cancel the animation that was first going to go off and instead play the other one which is just a fine example of how much of a difference designing a game back then was compared to now, especially with what kind of tools and what not are at people`s fingertips where they can likely one man dev team imitations of older games with relative ease now.

[@CrystalPapa]

It's not the game we wanted, but the one we needed 😂.