The "Kimeramon" Mystery of Digimon World 2

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@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 3 ай бұрын
If you have any other Mysteries or Secrets that you want me deep dive into, do let me know here, in the comments! But more importantly, does your uncle work at Nintendo?
@amosbird1988
@amosbird1988 Ай бұрын
Anything on digimon card game, digimon world next order, or why digimon games have mixed post game content, would be cool. It a mystery to me how the balance it all. Saving the cooler stuff till after it matters leaves one saying" wouldn't be cooler if." Just pulled punches and the post game super boss challenge as an empty duel on a check list above get groceries.they've had a few Old school jrpg style games and it has not been total misses they were not home runs either. What holds each game back or maybe the flip side, what the did good each game would be cool to see. Maybe a class system for the jrpg ones base one type and something else like physical/magic or family or level and the limiter be rookie, champion ect.. all of them could use a go faster button too. A run or actually fast forwarding. Loved the videos so far man. Hope this helps with ideas and good luck. 👍
@MEiSSDM
@MEiSSDM Ай бұрын
13:03 that battle gameplay is same as on Digimon Card Battle
@tundraghost429
@tundraghost429 Ай бұрын
Did you try taking your Jijimon through File island?
@SebastianMonsalve-x3x
@SebastianMonsalve-x3x 19 күн бұрын
In DW2003 most of the forums in that time had information about a third digiegg, do you know something about it?
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 2 ай бұрын
"Kimeramon is a Mega Digimon who is only obtainable in the Japanese version though the use of a V-Tamer transfer where Kimeramon is acquirable, an NPC next to the tournament registration will perform this service. It can also be transferred in from Pocket Digimon World." English Digimon World 2 Strategy Guide: "Keep your eyes peeled for Kimeramon!!" It should be legal to send people to a Gulag for this
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
Your comment got a good laugh out of me 😂😂😂.
@zephiask1758
@zephiask1758 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me about a pokemon dokumentary from the 90s in Germany. The camera team was either filming at Nintendo-hotline or at a Strategy guide hotline. A Boy said he cannot find Mew, But he already did fight the elite 4 100 Times and more. The Strategy Guide dude just replied over the phone "Oh well, I think you havent tried hard enough if Mew did not appear yet, you need to put more effort into it like an actual Pokemon Trainer!" [All while paying lots of money to call there to begin with] Or some other Strategy Booklets that got distributed here also just had blatant false information in them If there is some space left if the gulag you mentioned, put them in there too
@Lauren_C
@Lauren_C Ай бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories pulls the same shenanigans as well. In its case, the box art monster is unobtainable outside Japan.
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 Ай бұрын
Crazy shenanigans between japanese and international versions were very common back in the day when Internet didn't exist to verify informations. That's how many legends were created. I excuse more the English guide for being misinformed than if it would straight up lie based on nothing. It has attenuating circumstances to escape the Gulag at least. By the way, I remember similar shenanigans with two Godzilla games. Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee on GameCube features the logo of Hedorah and Mothra on the back cover as to indicate they're playable characters like the others when they're just hazards and for Godzilla Unleashed on PS2, some monsters are only unlockable in the Wii version of the game such as Biollante and Krystalak when you can see this last one on a picture on the back cover of the pS2 version of the game if I remember correctly.
@CD-Gaming
@CD-Gaming Ай бұрын
@@Lauren_C Magician of Black Chaos! I wondered about that! I searched tinterweb and never did anything concrete! I found the Monsters you need to Summon it, but anything at all about Black Magic Ritual?
@GiantNerd91
@GiantNerd91 Ай бұрын
There's just something magical about watching a 30+ minute video about a 24 year mystery in a game I've never played.
@S4NSE
@S4NSE Ай бұрын
it's a digital archeology session 😂
@BarokaiRein
@BarokaiRein 23 күн бұрын
It's like watching a lore video for a franchise you know nothing about.
@FreakGeSt
@FreakGeSt 18 күн бұрын
And ended with dissapoinment.
@pages4573
@pages4573 3 ай бұрын
This video is really fun honestly. I love obscure secrets like this. Old games just had that charm which always made you think that there was something else around the corner. Another side quest or event that would lead to more content or an entirely new map.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 3 ай бұрын
I get what you mean! I am a big fan of older games (and making discoveries in those games) myself! 🎈 I am glad you enjoyed the video! ☺️
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa I really have to wonder... You used a Celebi example, and I ponder if that was the plan... some.... "special" method to acquire.... That didn't actually make it into the game? Also Digivolution-wise what CAN you do with Jijimon one you DO get it?
@TheScrootch
@TheScrootch 2 ай бұрын
Odd... I actually found Kimeramon under the truck. Mario 64 hinted at it after all, since the headstone says "Kimeramon is under the truck".
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
@@TheScrootch Okay, this made me laugh way more than it should've 😂😂😂.
@maxnum1sgameclub263
@maxnum1sgameclub263 Ай бұрын
The old mew rumors, never thought i would hear them again xD.
@ThermalVoid
@ThermalVoid 20 күн бұрын
"All (old games') rumors point to Kimeramon."
@ThePageofRage
@ThePageofRage 18 күн бұрын
What about surfing on Cinnabar to unlock MissingMon and getting 128 Agumons?
@omabang5002
@omabang5002 22 күн бұрын
Maybe Ben Oldman referenced the Jijimon in the Pocket Station like 33:41 instead a Jijimon located somewhere in DW2 lol Thx for your dedication to debunk this matter!
@That_One_Disowned_Disgaea_Fan
@That_One_Disowned_Disgaea_Fan Ай бұрын
Just stumbled onto this video, and while it's not about Kimeramon - When you started talking about Omnimon, Diaboromon, and Baihumon, it reminded me of when I was at my dad's a few years ago and playing this game. I found a Baihumon, and I threw a few items at it, and he and I were debating about "what type move" I should use to defeat it. I ended up using a Virus type move after a few minutes of pondering, and I was so SHOOK when the game said it wanted to join my party. Mostly because even my father, who i considered a Digimon PS1 games guru due to how he'd write notebooks full of the Digimon he raised and how he raised them - had never caught any of those three Tera Domain Digimon. Ah, good times . . . thanks for the trip down memory lane ! 😌
@spikedwallman
@spikedwallman 2 ай бұрын
tiny nitpick, but the game at the beginning for the atari is Adventure, not ET. Also it's worth mentioning that DW2 has a lot of dna from shiren the wanderer, it's basically a mystery dungeon game.
@CD-Gaming
@CD-Gaming 2 ай бұрын
Before Mystery Dungeon was even a concept!
@jamielishbrook2384
@jamielishbrook2384 Ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 Ай бұрын
Randomized dungeon crawlers have been a thing for a long time. The most famous is the original, "Rogue" which was so incomparable at the time to other games that its name became the name of the genre, "Rogue-like"
@frozeneku
@frozeneku Ай бұрын
​@@CD-Gaming Mystery Dungeon's been a thing since '93, with a Mystery Dungeon game based on Dragon Quest. The second mystery dungeon game was the first entry of the Shiren the Wanderer series in '95. When I first saw DW2 gameplay, I thought someone related to Chunsoft had to have a big hand in it.
@CD-Gaming
@CD-Gaming Ай бұрын
@@frozeneku I meant Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, though, I will admit I wasn't aware of those games, I was simply pointing out somert else Pokémon did that Digimon had already done prior!
@LagunaFox
@LagunaFox Ай бұрын
Man this takes me back, I remember talking about all the different theories on Gamefaqs back in the day and I spent a lot of time myself looking into all this. Ultimately what I remember is that as a community we came to a few different conclusions. First of all several people have gone through the code with a fine toothed comb looking for multiple things that would indicate Kimeramon is there. Obviously his data is there, a gameshark is all you need to find that out, however a key piece of the puzzle that was missing is that Kimeramon is no where to be found on the games wild encounter table. Basically every encounter you have in the game is pulled from that table of information, so if Kimeramon isn't there, you can't encounter him. That is kind of the definitive smoking gun that you can't encounter him through any normal means. Even boss digimon are on that encounter table. That being said, there are some odd things still in the code. I remember hearing about some unused lines of dialogue (none of which mentions Kimeramon), and in fact there are several groups of digimon in the encounter table that don't appear in the game normally, some of which include digimon that also don't appear in the game normally. Those are pretty much re-colored versions with different names that were digimon that ultimately got cut from the game. Of course you can patch the game to force those encounters to spawn. However that combined with several other odd bugs and glitches that only seem to exist in the world wide release of the game rather than the Japanese version made me wonder about something. In the Japanese version, all of these problems go away because you can get these digimon using the Pocketstation. The game was designed to use Pocketstation, which sadly never took off outside of Japan. I always wondered if part of the localization process for releasing the game to the world outside of Japan also originally had a plan in place to create a way for the Pocketstation content to be obtained in game via post game content that never was part of the original Japanese version. Unfortunately it seems as though the idea was either shut down or never given time to finish. Terra Domain itself is a clear indicator of that given it has an orange outline indicating a mission and yet there is no trigger for the mission itself nor is there a trigger to complete the mission and return the outline to green. Sadly all the people involved in the game have almost certainly long since moved on to other companies or retired, we will never know the full story of what went down during the development of the game. But yea my personal theory is that there was some kind of attempt to give the rest of the world some extra content to get the Pocketstation digimon but it just never being developed enough to be released.
@Zeion97
@Zeion97 2 ай бұрын
The end of the players' guide played with my emotions and cost me dozen and dozens of hours going through the Tera domain so many countless times! Ugh.. great video, I really enjoyed it :)
@hyper_tex9834
@hyper_tex9834 Ай бұрын
If the kimeramon was originally obtainable and the only thing done to block access to it was remove playstation pocket functionality. Then it IS possible people may have stumbled on it accidently by doing a particular sequence of steps, similar to the gen one mew glitch in pokemon. Though I'm sure you're thinking, kimeramon was a givaway digimon, so it shouldn't have encounter data, (so was mew as well) but this is where Tera domain comes in. It's possible that, like people thought, this IS where you were gonna encounter it, but the developers ran out of time to finish making the event, but since they had finished the digimon, they just gave it away as a Pocket reward, but left the encounter data, the domain, and the mission indicator in the game. Jijimon might have been part of the event too, but that's speculation. So, it's possible, with the right sequence of glitches, rng manipulation, and a few other various factors, (likely unintentionally) kids might have hit the trigger for it to spawn. And before you say this game is so old, people would've found everything by now. Speed runners are still finding new glitches for Zelda OOT, mario 64, ect. So it wouldn't surprise me if there's something like that for this game, and no one has figured it out yet. That may be what MetalKid is trying to do, find the right sequence of steps to hit the right trigger. This isn't the first time I've heard of such a thing. And here's the interesting part, these lost content access mysteries CAN take decades to solve, even nowadays.
@Iggy117gt
@Iggy117gt 3 ай бұрын
13:03 these are animations from Digimon Digital Card Battle, I assume this is just some sort of preview for that game rather than an actual game mode
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 3 ай бұрын
Ah is that so? Well that is interesting! Thanks for letting me know! :D
@ShinAk1raSama
@ShinAk1raSama 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa Yeah, I was kinda pretty surprised you didn't know that. The trilogy, Digimon Digital Card Battle, and Digimon Rumble Arena were my life as a kid. XD
@Tjad
@Tjad Ай бұрын
yup 13:03 is defineitly from the ps1 games Digimon Card game. Is similiar to Digimon world 3 card game but with that in it
@Douglas628
@Douglas628 Ай бұрын
The mode that was scrapped from the japanese version is called D-1 Grand Prix, and is named after the old Digimon virtual pet tournaments. What you do in this mode is essentially a V-pet battle, where you could connect to a Wonderswan Digimon game (And probably the PocketStation too) and battle with Digimon you raised in those games, possible even DIgimon from V-pets themselves, since I'm pretty sure those games were compatible with that. As for the animations, they're actually from Pocket Digimon World. As mentioned in the video, you could raise Digimon in Pocket Station then transfer to DMW2, however the game that was bound to that system was the Pocket Digimon World, which had 3 versions that sorta served as expansions. The idea was raise you Digimon in the Pocket Station like a V-pet, then bring it to PDW to battle in a Pokémon Stadium-like game. The game only worked with the Pocket Station, so it was never released outside Japan. Those animations were indeed later reused for the PS1 card games, however.
@AnFonE
@AnFonE Ай бұрын
​@@ShinAk1raSama I forgot all about the card battle game! Man I loved that thing. Gonna go find it!
@ZER0H0UR333
@ZER0H0UR333 2 ай бұрын
It's probably as simple as cut content, i wonder if there was an intended jijimon quest and it is just broken, I also wonder if modders can fix this
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
I think people have datamined the whole game, and didn't find any quests of that nature, unfortunately 😓. Even I want one to exist, somehow!
@AztecCroc
@AztecCroc 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa Kimeramon is actually meant to be obtained from save file transfer from a game that didn't get released outside Japan called Pocket Digimon World.
@ZirixStrarstrider
@ZirixStrarstrider Ай бұрын
Modders added Kimeramon to spawn naturally in some domains. Also, i saw gameplay with BlackWargreymon too
@grahf4215
@grahf4215 Ай бұрын
I've never had a Prima guide that didn't have at least 15, omissions, mistakes or outright lies in it. Worst of the guide companies but unfortunately they were the only ones to make guides for so many games.
@Groggimus_Prime
@Groggimus_Prime 2 ай бұрын
The Easter egg mentioned at the beginning of the video isn’t in E.T, it’s from Adventure and it’s said to be the first video game Easter egg ever.
@ViroVeteruscy
@ViroVeteruscy Ай бұрын
Would be interesting if you needed the Machindramon you trade for in your party and/or defeat every enemy in each floor. Old school games often had ridiculous requirements (even glitches) for secret Bosses and items. Ex.) In Megaman X, after obtaining every power-up/sub item, if you killed yourself 7 times at the pit right before you'd get to Armored Armadillo's room on his stage. After the 6-7th time, the capsule with Dr. Light wearing Ryu's gi (from Street Fighter) will appear above the Boss Room on a cliff after the pit. It gives you the Hadouken when you're at full health by doing Quarter-Circle Forward + Attack which kills any enemy, including Bosses, with one hit.
@markymarkeaton
@markymarkeaton 3 ай бұрын
I just picked Digimon World 2 up again recently. Played it when it was first out on PS1 but I was younger and didn’t understand any of the nuance with leveling so I never made it far. Crazy to find someone who has consistently put out content on it still. I know it’s a flawed game but I personally am loving it again! Great videos
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 3 ай бұрын
Well I am glad you enjoyed the videos! 😇
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 Ай бұрын
I never managed to finish the crazy thing... it has multiple sidequests of "catch this digimon to advance the story", which, not only is not guaranteed due to the dungeons being randomize, it can take multiple hours just to clear one of the later dungeons, let alone get all of the equipment and digi-eggs you need to advance. What surprised me though is that the game has references to tons of characters that weren't around in the main digimon anime at that time such as Omnimon and the glitch mon from the movie.
@EmpireGamingWynter
@EmpireGamingWynter Ай бұрын
Its so flawed, but it's one of my favourite games of all time still
@SiniBANG
@SiniBANG Ай бұрын
I feel you, I didn't know how to capture mons there or how leveling works on my first playthrough, it got me stuck on the 2 Domains after SCSI due to having only 1 Lv.13 Greymon. 4 years after that I managed to finish the game, learning the levelling and taming.
@markymarkeaton
@markymarkeaton Ай бұрын
@@SiniBANG that’s awesome! I always had a dream to get a Flamedramon for some reason, but never could. When I finally played more and actually understood the mechanics and I finally got one, it felt like a lifelong goal achieved. I know he’s not the most powerful but it feels special still to me
@pokemonseth
@pokemonseth Ай бұрын
I don't know if you figured it out eventually (I'm still watching the video) or if somebody already mentioned it in the comments, but the reason why you were getting those "something feels strange" messages on those certain floors in Data domain is because there were mini boss fights on those floors when the main mission was still active. A number of tamers from the city were confused by the gekomon and you had to defeat them upon encountering their digibeetles in order to rescue them. That's really the only reason why those messages keep coming up afterwards. I consider myself kind of an expert on this game in particular. Have probably played through it over 20 times in my life. I'm actually about to go through Tera domain again on my current playthrough! I love it, and I love your videos!
@KDG-gg
@KDG-gg Ай бұрын
My new favorite content creator. Keep it up man! I’m here before you reach a million subs! 🔥
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa Ай бұрын
Your kind words are greatly appreciated, friend! Thank you! 😊
@kushine_
@kushine_ Ай бұрын
Oh man, somehow that Mew under a truck myth made it where I am. Half across the globe from the US, thats pretty crazy
@ultrajoe274
@ultrajoe274 Күн бұрын
DUUUUDE ive searched for years to find those battles in the jp version i used to play as a kid!, what a cool memory
@GameGodZERO
@GameGodZERO 2 ай бұрын
Legit love world 2 but god the leveling system really made it aggravating to play Really hope they one day remake the og world trilogy and make some of the tedious things less tedious (world 2 levelling, some kind of fast travel or random battle prevention in 3) And maybe even add new mons to the rosters Maybe it spawns on the 98th floor where the planes are given lol
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
Oh I would love a World 3 remake! Even though the backtracking is kinda ridiculous, I still have a lot of fond memories of it ^_^.
@GameGodZERO
@GameGodZERO 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa yeah of the 3 og world games 3 was always my favorite (and the only one I came remotely close to completing of the 3 lol)
@dale117
@dale117 Ай бұрын
Sad to see how many games I loved for PS1 had content locked behind the PocketStation. At least with FF8, the PC port came with Chocobo World bundled in the software, but games like Monster Rancher 2 never got to shine in the same way.
@iantaran2843
@iantaran2843 Ай бұрын
Man way to bring me back. Were any of y'all there for the adventure for the last secret of Shadow of Colossus? That was an insane trip. Im still sad it wasn't a Colossus But the remaster adding the sword for the fans was really cool.
@vEuropeanLingelding
@vEuropeanLingelding 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the Digimon World 2 Videos you made. They helped me a lot over the day now.
@kordiark
@kordiark 11 күн бұрын
13:03 is an animation from Digimon Digital Card Battle! Then on 23:30 those message are almost the same as "This Domain feels strangely quiet". I once had a bug that showed a captive friendly digimon (It's Angemon if I am not mistaken) appearing on the domain that I cleared up. It was a mission to rescue Angemon from Disk Domain. I saw Angemon on a tile that is 'next door' from my current area. Then when that message pops up, Angemon disappears from said area.
@kordiark
@kordiark 11 күн бұрын
What I was saying is... "This domain feels strangely quiet" is a trigger to delete important characters. (Such as captive friendlies, small boss fight, like Damian or Bertran, etc.)
@kordiark
@kordiark 11 күн бұрын
ah, I chatted before I finished the video.......
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 10 күн бұрын
Well I hope you did enjoy the video 😅.
@parkouremaster
@parkouremaster Ай бұрын
Maybe Kimeramon is the friends we made along the way
@Yangus03
@Yangus03 Ай бұрын
Loving the video so far, the silent hill music is always a god tier choice fr
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa Ай бұрын
@@Yangus03 Definitely GOAT OST! I hope you enjoyed the rest of the video, as well! ☺️
@GXStream
@GXStream 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nostalgia trip! I've followed this since Gamefaqs times and you made a great refresher. I gotta say your video is well written - as someone up to date with Kimeramon DMW2 story I positively felt tense as you moved from one theory to the next, wondering how much you'll eventually cover. It's cool to see how different an approach to this mystery can get - you said you felt bad about using save states to test theories. Meanwhile, when I tried finding Kimeramon the first thing I did was exploring game memory and hacking collisions to check if you can go past Leomon in the colliseum. Fun if fruitless endeavor, I think nowadays there's no doubt about it being a semi-cut pocketstation content.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 2 ай бұрын
DWM2? oooh I looved... wait you said DMW2... never mind. ;-;
@jpcsdutra
@jpcsdutra 2 ай бұрын
I knew that Digimon World 1 had some rookie digimon that were only obtainable in events; so my first thought was that Kimeramon would have been an event thing, and that would explain the in-game files. But still, it's incredibly curious that Tera keeps the 'active mission' highlight forever, and it has no boss in it (though every other Digimon game is almost infamous for how long their post game stuff is). It is also incredibly weird that Jijimon becomes missing at that point in the game. Now, I'm incredibly aware that this game was probably datamined a few hundred times already, but have people actually checked the post game in the PAL and JP versions? I can see a world where there is extra content in the game without events that actually explain some of the weird set ups (though they don't necessarily would have to do with Kimeramon) I think the reason why Kimeramon is such a good mystery for this is because it just *makes sense*. Kimeramon had a spotlight in Digimon Adventure 2, Kimeramon is the perfect corruption of what a Jogress should be, Kimeramon is related to Mugendramon and Milleniummon which are both final and secret bosses of other games (and even jogresses with them). Not having Kimeramon be a final boss in this game is honestly a missed opportunity. There are some games that will never get a remake/remaster/reboot treatment, and Digimon World 2 is one of them that I think about a lot and it really makes me sad. This game would be amazing in hardware that could actually do fast loadings and not tank the battles frame rates, and just need to overhaul its menu system for quality of life (so it doesn't take 1 hour to do anything). If DW2 ever got the Re:Digitize or Next Order treatment, it could actually be an extremely fun and replayable dungeon crawler.
@eliasleguizamon284
@eliasleguizamon284 Ай бұрын
Which rookies were obtainable only from events in World 1?
@jpcsdutra
@jpcsdutra Ай бұрын
@@eliasleguizamon284 I was absolutely positive that I remembered reading somewhere about Tentomon being listed as playable but only obtainable in one of those contests/mail your memory card in events. Looking it up now I can't seem to find anything about it. Either Mandela Effect or my mind just straight up made some fake news. Weird.
@tehonlynoobs5556
@tehonlynoobs5556 2 күн бұрын
​@@jpcsdutra if im not wrong its not rookies or tentomon but metal etemon which they give in the contest
@stavroszisis4968
@stavroszisis4968 2 ай бұрын
Hello! I just discovered your channel (and subscribed of course!). I was also on the wild goose chase hunt for Kimeramon back in the day (with Metalkid's post and stuff) and I can't even remember how many hours I wasted on the actual PS1 for this. Also, another conclusive evidence you could mention is that the game has been fully datamined and Kimeramon isn't even in the encounters list. So yeah, I think this rumor can be classified as "debunked".
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
Hey Stavroszisis! Glad to have you here! :D Yes, I did hear that the whole thing has been datamined, but I guess a small part of me still wanted to believe 😩... Gotta say, Metal Kid showed a strange kind of determination to hold on to his theories for so long!
@stavroszisis4968
@stavroszisis4968 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa Glad to be on board! You should consider playing/streaming Digimon World 2 Alternative. I am playing it right now and I'm very impressed with te modder's dedication. He pretty much completely remade the game.
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 Ай бұрын
Only non official game magazines often got their information from internet forums, which was usually the main reason why certain rumors would become strong and spread like crazy. Official game guides were fine from what I know. When shiny hunters try, they think they know they'll eventually find a shiny. But some pokemon are shiny locked, which means there is actually zero chance for them to be shiny. Trying wrongly thinking there is a chance might be worse than not being sure. So yeah, the explanation of the differences between both versions and the English version of the guide translating the info when it was only valid for the japanese version makes more sense to me than the official guide just lying.
@randomrfkov
@randomrfkov Ай бұрын
13:16 Wow, the animation reminds me of Digimon Digital Card Battle. It has very similar camera angles and everything. Considering that DDCB came before DW2
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa Ай бұрын
The animations were almost certainly from Card Battle! I wish they'd just used those animations in World 2 😅.
@adamfrost8313
@adamfrost8313 2 ай бұрын
Its unfortunate what happened to the pocketstation. Alot of in-game mechanics locked behind the device. I remembered in yu-gi-oh forbidden memories that exodia cant be completed without the pocketstation, in matter of fact you cant complete the card Collection without it
@GXrst64tlc
@GXrst64tlc 2 ай бұрын
Ah Digimon world 2, the first Digimon game that I've ever played as a kid. Good times. Also this may be a throwaway idea but what if the way to get Kimeramon was stupidly simple: just DNA digivolution all digimon that are part of Kimeramon and have them in your party or just have the base versions of them in your party.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
@@GXrst64tlc Ah I can only wish things could be that simple 🤧.
@2ndIgnition
@2ndIgnition Ай бұрын
really interesting vid, I love mysteries like this in old PS1 jrpgs or really any game in general, definitely earned a sub from me!
@cosmicskydragon333
@cosmicskydragon333 Ай бұрын
It is worth noting, it is likely a few of the people who have seen Kimeramon in any location are not lying. As you acknowledge Kimeramon's data, model, ect are all in the game in a playable state. So if something akin to the MissingNo glitch involving temporary memory happened it could happen. Given the game needs to do something to know what spawns are even a slight bit of dust, scratch, or luck could lead to pulling the wrong information. This is why physical media is so cool, these stories aren't always lies rather extreme luck, sometimes you'll get access to cool things you were never meant to.
@jakeoruru2475
@jakeoruru2475 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't it basically confirmed that Kimeramon was a pocket station unlock (special memory card) and since that never came to the west his content was cut? I swear that it was that simple.
@shadowfang1034
@shadowfang1034 Ай бұрын
He comes to that conclusion at the end
@SvenSierra104
@SvenSierra104 Ай бұрын
@@shadowfang1034 I always wonder why people comment on videos before watching/finishing them like OP
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 Ай бұрын
I was only able to even remotely enjoy 2 after I had realized that it isn't a Digimon World game, it's a Mystery Dungeon game. When you approach it after having played DW1, of course you are gonna hate it, but when you see it as one of the earlier Mystery Dungeon spinoffs with a digimon skin, suddenly it feels a LOT better.
@MartyrPandaGaming
@MartyrPandaGaming 5 сағат бұрын
I ended up becoming the most hated kid at my school among the Pokémon kids. Among us, I was the one that discovered that you could Rare Candy Pokémon found along Cinnibar, with the MNo. glitch, that are over Lv. 100 to Lv. 255. Not only that, but I had eventually found it with a name that results in Mewtwo being an encounter. First battle with that team resulted in mixed reactions. Many thought I cheated it and secretly had a GameShark. It wasn't until the only kid that did have one said that there wasn't any codes for going over Lv. 100 (there isn't, as far as I am aware). So, I told them, all to have to do is use Rare Candies. I *_didn't_* tell them about how your Name affects what shows up, so they were still a little angry I didn't tell them how to get the Mewtwo's, specifically. If I remember correctly, though, the name is David or DAVID. It is case senitive. The best part was winning cards in bets from battles. Over the years, I won dozens of various Blastoise cards from playing people in Red/Blue battles. Years later, I even obtained a glitched Arcanine that evolved from a Raichu, using a Fire Stone, that evolved from a Pikachu when I was walking out of Pewter City, after beating Brock (and no way to access a Thunderstone). To this day, I have no idea what happened with that, but I have 3 hypotheses. The first, is I somehow, unwittingly, used ACE. I doubt this one myself. I don't know a lot about ACE, but what little I do, it usually results some in screwed up sprites and maps. None of thay occurred. The second is The Mew Glitch, or something like it. I lean way more towards this being the answer and, possibly, an undocumented glitch itself. The unfortunate thing is, I don't remember much about the set up. All I can remember is I took Squirtle or Bulbasaur. I had 5 Pokémon when I beat Brock and Pikachu was in the last slot, between Lv. 4-7 (caught at Lv. 3). When I was leaving Pewter, I passed above the PokéMart using the tile line along the back of Brock's gym, towards Mt. Moon. "What? Pikachu is evolving!" I used TM24 to teach the Raichu Thunderbolt and moved on. When I got to Celadon, I immediately when and got Eevee, then straight to the Mart to get a Fire Stone, as Flareon was the last one I needed for a Living PokéDex on Stadium. When I went to use it though, Raichu had "ABLE" next to its name. And that's all I can remember about the Wrong Evolution Glitch I encountered.
@emilydonegan3208
@emilydonegan3208 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Kimeramon doesn't show up on any encounter tables for the game. Technically, if there were something like a quest that *gifts* you a Kimeramon, that wouldn't show up, but that's also not happened. What I think is neat is that there was another peripheral for the PS1 called the Wonderwave, which would let the PS1 interact with the WonderSwan, including the Digimon WonderSwan games!
@crizzydime
@crizzydime 2 ай бұрын
Yes, back in the day when you went by word of mouth and everything wasn't datamined on the first day of release!
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
The good ol' days! 😇
@jacobwilbers9852
@jacobwilbers9852 2 ай бұрын
Avoiding all media and walkthrus for games before I have finished them really helps to bring back some of that wonder.
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx Ай бұрын
I mean, I feel like that's still the case for Digimon games. It's been 8 years since Next Order first released and there's still _zero_ information online on how enemy stats relate to their stage and level, or how the game determines _which_ stats to buff at the end of battle, or really, _any_ of the internal mechanics that aren't explained to you through in-game dialogue.
@amosbird1988
@amosbird1988 Ай бұрын
I remember hearing about a rng apon entry to terra domain and one had to brave the gauntlet just to check. But I also remember using toy planes to no effect on it but toy boats got me heart. Start on the last ten floors and work down to 50 maybe? I used a GameShark all items at start so I could get flamedramon line so blue team. There is some rng and the whole point was a super long what if quest. Thought I remember it being there but maybe it was a created memory instead of a real memory. The feeling of" its there and somebody else can do it cause this is a hell not worth repeating" was tempered more then. Also not more than lv 2 on its heart/friend thing. This was all back in the day early to mid 2000s. Honest. Good luck if you pick it up again. I do remember lots of pain and nice to know I am not alone in that path less chosen here. Damn you terra domain.
@Drak_From_The_Healer_Tribe
@Drak_From_The_Healer_Tribe Ай бұрын
What are the chances that some people might've come across a glitch or some form of unintentional arbitrary code execution that lead to Kimeramon spawning as a wild digimon? Since Kimeramon already exists within the game's code it shouldn't be impossible for the game to screw up and for it to end up getting added to the domain spawn pool, right?
@lorenzod.m.3782
@lorenzod.m.3782 2 ай бұрын
That message on data domain is interesting, since it´s the only place it shows up, like there is some secret there.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
I REALLY wanted to believe that myself! 🤧
@alexisdipoalo9443
@alexisdipoalo9443 2 ай бұрын
I assume it there was when certain conditions are met OR ( more likely given its' a older game ) it's a glitch
@lorenzod.m.3782
@lorenzod.m.3782 2 ай бұрын
@@alexisdipoalo9443 maybe, there was once, after all you can't find jijimon. But got cut from the since they wanted to sell the toy and ended up putting kimeramom as a event reward instead of a in-game reward.
@JohnQ5
@JohnQ5 Ай бұрын
The Devil didn't stop me! Love your Digimon content!
@Majin_Lee
@Majin_Lee Ай бұрын
12:58 yeah it's asking to match make or download a Digimon from a memory card. If you can't of course it's just going to give you random battles. The whole point of the D-1 was to use the Digimon you raised against other people and their Digimon. That's the whole point of Digimon.
@Sacrengard
@Sacrengard Ай бұрын
In Digimon Survive you CAN actually capture/recruit wild digimon. So DMW2 is not the only digimon game where you can recruit wild digimon.
@Xmapavega929X2
@Xmapavega929X2 Ай бұрын
Such a good vid! So intriguing :)
@RaizinRun
@RaizinRun Ай бұрын
man that is crazy because i enjoyed 2 more than 3 by a lot, and 1 was ok when I figured stuff out. I still like the idea behind 1 the most, but 2 I would love another game like that.
@RenoReborn
@RenoReborn Ай бұрын
I can believe that the dudes game glitched out at some point and changed a 1 to a 0 resulting in Chimeramon instead of whatever encounter he was sposed to get. I've seen weirder things happen in games and PS1 discs weren't the best, a single spec of dust could make the game unreadable
@1stZeu
@1stZeu Ай бұрын
Best boss battle theme of all times, justo to mention!
@heroshadow42
@heroshadow42 Ай бұрын
I remember having this guidebook. Sadly as a kid I was worst Digimon World 2 player and never DNA Digivolved. So I was trying to tough it out with the caught Metal Greymon and the traded Megadramon and MagnaAngemon and could not do the domains before the Chaos Generals.
@heart3460
@heart3460 2 ай бұрын
Knew nothing about this. Or anything at all about World 2. This was a great look into the game for me and a great secret with it. To add a bit of context to the Pocket Station, it functioned with Final Fantasy 8 and would letm you raise a Chocobo anmed Boko. A reference to FF5's Chocobo partner to the main character Bartz. Through lebeling him up and going on adventures you'd get rare items that you wouldn't have access to until Disc 3 of that game. It led to a small mystery on how to get multiple of some items without abusing Angelo Search to try and "fish" for them.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
I am glad you enjoyed the video! :D I haven't looked into the Pocketstation interaction with FF 8 yet, so this was definitely a fun read! Thank you for sharing it 😊.
@heart3460
@heart3460 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa I think it's nice when two nerds can share fun facts and trivia. An exchange of knowledge for the fun of learning
@zay-lias
@zay-lias Ай бұрын
Poor MetalKid… I hope he’s validated one day!!!
@dalepalm1138
@dalepalm1138 2 ай бұрын
I would TOTALLY play this game !
@ladonmccabe
@ladonmccabe Ай бұрын
Me finding out that my favorite Digimon game was the worst one: 😢
@Majin_Lee
@Majin_Lee Ай бұрын
12:55 that's the D-1 gran prix. The d-1 never went to America I think. I remember in '17-'18 when they received the d-1 only in Japan alongside the 15th anniversary vpets. I remember losing in my second round at work. My digimon were blitzgreymon and metaltyranomon. I remember that lose. It was Even worse because I had just completed a whole day of work.
@VZous
@VZous Ай бұрын
Kimeramon was a p2w exclusive digimon , SADGE. thanks for all your efforts
@Fightclub710
@Fightclub710 Ай бұрын
I actually really liked this game, it taught me what it meant to persist through hardships.
@Psilo-gn1sx
@Psilo-gn1sx Ай бұрын
Dude I saw that ghost in GTA while tripping on mushrooms and thought I was imagining it lmfao. Also, the Mew truck is an especially sore spot, considering there was a *real* glitch that actually *did* give you a Mew, like 30 paces north of the original rumor.
@vendreadscavenger2431
@vendreadscavenger2431 Ай бұрын
What about Ambipan?
@edwardallen9919
@edwardallen9919 3 ай бұрын
I always thought u had to max the dna digivolution numbers. Like 100 dna lvl then it evolves into it.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 3 ай бұрын
Good lord that would've been terrible, if that was true! 😅.
@troyschram7211
@troyschram7211 Ай бұрын
Kimeramon is a chimera of various Digimon. It has the head of Kabuterimon, the eyes and hair of MetalGreymon, the body and lower jaw of Greymon, the wings of Airdramon, the top wings of Angemon, the arms of Devimon, the left arm of Kuwagamon, the right arm of SkullGreymon, the legs of Garurumon, and the tail of Monochromon.
@Compactavocado
@Compactavocado Ай бұрын
It turned out years later it was possible to legit find mew in Pokémon red and blue. You could force the game to basically glitch it as your next encounter by doing this real crazy series of steps north of cerulean city. It has been documented and can be replicated by every copy. So it stands to reason somehow there would be a way to glitch kimeramon somehow by some specifics combination of items used with a certain party or something.
@aaronsullivan8230
@aaronsullivan8230 Ай бұрын
I've been looking for a physical copy to wonder into a local video game resale shop. I remember owning digimon 1 and 2 as a kid. But i cant remember what i did with them. I do remember really enjoying the grinding after playing so much Pokemon
@RhazahLuna
@RhazahLuna Ай бұрын
Loved this video
@andrewcundiff5560
@andrewcundiff5560 2 ай бұрын
I really want you to cover Dark Cloud now.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
Oh I've never played that one. Might look into it now! ^_^
@JohnQ5
@JohnQ5 Ай бұрын
Same!
@Vidiocity92
@Vidiocity92 2 ай бұрын
Loved listening to your investigation, this deep dive was eerie and cool and haunting. Wish I still had my minifigure of Kimeramon now 😅 Hope this video gets 6,666 likes one day! Stay awesome
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, Vidiocity! :D I am glad you enjoyed the video! And yes, 6,666 likes would be pretty cool! 😇
@punkagumon4165
@punkagumon4165 2 ай бұрын
Randomly stumbled upon your Digimon Videos today and this is some terrific stuff! Excited to see more down the line! ^^
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, punkagumon! I am glad you're enjoying the content! :D
@neitron90
@neitron90 23 күн бұрын
I do vaguely remember that I had Kimeramon as I used in the battle mode against my friends. However my game version was in Russian so it may be a pirated version witch would explain why I had access to it, also I still have my memory card with the save file, but my ps1 is broke long time ago. I still probably have the game somewhere in the attic too.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 23 күн бұрын
Huh, that is interesting! I haven't heard of any changes between the different versions of the game 🤔. Maybe it was a mod of some sort?
@neitron90
@neitron90 23 күн бұрын
​@@CrystalPapa Not sure, maybe. Few other games I noticed had differences too. Some that I still remember like in Tomb Raider 1 in the 3d level instead of dinos I had crocs and in Vigilante 8 2nd offense some stage events did not trigger and the special attacks did not work at all.
@deathstinger13
@deathstinger13 2 ай бұрын
5:30, that is a HUGE marine angemon
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@hesstarr2
@hesstarr2 2 ай бұрын
Hello there, first of all, awesome video! So... i know this may sound ridiculous but im pretty sure i actually caught Kimeramon in Tera Domain in actual hardware, but he wasnt in the last floor, im pretty sure he was in the second to last floor, floor 98, he was alone, so the toy planes were pretty powerful on him, my memory is hazy as it was a long time ago, but if you still have the save state, would you be able to try? fell free to ignore this, and thank you.
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
I am glad you enjoyed the video, hesstarr! :D But no, don't give me hope again! 😓 I've only just learned to move on from Kimeramon 😭.
@hesstarr2
@hesstarr2 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa Im so sorry 😭 i was so long ago, but i vaguely remember that i found him in a large rectangular room and i remember being so happy that i caught him as it was the last digimon that i knew to exist. I know it must sound like im making it up, but when i heard you say that there was no proof of him being in Tera Domain, it gave me such a whiplash, i was like "am i crazy?". Anyways, i will keep enjoying your videos, best of lucks!
@TheHeartlessAlchemist
@TheHeartlessAlchemist Ай бұрын
The battle mode in Digimon World 2 is a preview of the next Digimon World game "Digimon World Digital Card Arena" aka "Digimon Digital Card Battle".
@justsomejojo
@justsomejojo 2 ай бұрын
I assume at this point, that people claiming to have had something this elusive in videogames long ago aren't necessarily lying, but rather falling for false memories. For example, I am certain I once triggered a hidden message made out of Icognito when booting up my Crystal version (I actually beat the E4 hundreds of times in that game) but because I've never been able to replicate this, I can't be sure it actually happened. I also broke of part of a tea pot of mine, but because I told different (less embarrassing) versions of the story, I have multiple vivid memories of how it happened, knowing most of them are likely not real. The downloadable content only in Japan theory honestly feels the most likely (confirmed?) way, especially given how the same was done in World 1 with Weregarurumon.
@LuisTheHitman47
@LuisTheHitman47 Ай бұрын
My Guess wouldve been, to show up with the Digimon it takes to make Kimeramon. The OG Digimon. Lol
@Mushi-Mushroom-Favorikos
@Mushi-Mushroom-Favorikos Ай бұрын
Well, the best and only way to know could be to mine the data of the game and check if there is something about that floor or Kimeramon in the data of the game, if the data of Kimeramon is there then it could help with the theory
@GameplayComCoisas
@GameplayComCoisas Ай бұрын
You know what's weird? When I looked at Kimeramon's in game model, it seemed so familiar, I remember seeing it as a mid boss of some domain.
@mono_vt
@mono_vt Ай бұрын
I like to think MetalKid was on to something with Jijimon. However, I believe that it was intentionally left open for planned expansion, but was left unfinished. Digimon World 2 felt like it dragged on way longer than it needed to anyway. Not helped at all by the constant loading (Thanks Duckstation for allowing us to cut those way shorter). Many games get cut short due to deadlines, funding, staffing problems etc... Or the modern solution, push out the incomplete and/or broken product anyway! Day 1 patch will fix it... (Did my comment really end up being flagged as spam?)
@nonbinarypickle
@nonbinarypickle 2 ай бұрын
I only remember the English version of Final Fantasy 8 still having the PocketStation compatibility left in the game. That's how I found out about the existence of the PocketStation and made my first international Japanese order in high school 😊
@billthehill
@billthehill Ай бұрын
Top 10 most famous lines spoken before the end of a frindship: "Trust me bro, my uncle works at nintendo"
@Daichi82
@Daichi82 9 күн бұрын
Digimon World 2 is the best of the 3 games for me.
@MugenCannon97
@MugenCannon97 2 ай бұрын
What's even weirder is Digimon world 2 making Chimairamon the wrong level, when it's supposed to be a perfect level instead of an ultimate like it is in game for some reason (or ultimate instead of mega, for dub bros)
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx Ай бұрын
Well, yeah, but the Digital Monster Ver. WonderSwan didn't have megas, so it's entirely possible Kimeramon was originally intended to be a mega (remember, DW2 came out _before_ 02 gave Kimeramon actual lore)
@resurrected6347
@resurrected6347 Ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, how did you get your EP so high? Mod? Cheat? It would be great for my Tera Domain exploration
@broku9652
@broku9652 Ай бұрын
love these videos
@JohnSmith13334
@JohnSmith13334 18 күн бұрын
I remember playing Pokémon dungeon on ds and finding a dungeon that had 100 floors and there was a Pokémon on the hundredth floor that apparently grants you a wish. It’s the whole reason you have to enter the dungeon. I never made it. Took too long and my guys weren’t strong enough
@troyschram7211
@troyschram7211 Ай бұрын
Did you know about the digimon card game on ps1? do you know about monster rancher card battle on ps1? did you know that some games give you special rewards if you have save data from another game on them? did you know that some games, even require you to have cleared certain flags or achievements on those cards in order to get specific rewards?
@Majin_Lee
@Majin_Lee Ай бұрын
11:18 ok the pal ver was the last to be worked on. The ps2 had already come out. This was bandai's try to get a little bit more out of dw3 knowing that they would have to work on a bigger digimon project in the future. Even though we got dw/evolution/4. Let's be real.
@troyschram7211
@troyschram7211 Ай бұрын
Did you know that for some games on the ps1 most of the game can be stored on the rom/ram/memory of the device allowing you to insert other discs into the system while a game is playing?
@BleachFan2007
@BleachFan2007 Ай бұрын
16:42 i still have my copy of this guide, good times.
@azzarox6661
@azzarox6661 Ай бұрын
as someone who imported a copy of Shin Duel Monsters and two, count em, two Pocketstations (they use watch button batteries by the way, which is a pain in the ass) I know the pains of the region exclusive content.
@hv433
@hv433 2 ай бұрын
Seeing this video really makes me wonder how many rumors were made solely because there was PocketStation content cut from a game...
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 Ай бұрын
For starters, Exodia _functioning_ in Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories.
@hv433
@hv433 Ай бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 actually, Exodia functions perfectly fine in Forbidden Memories. He has an epic animation too. He's just an enemy exclusive thing in international editions, like ModokiBetamon or Weedmon in Digimon World 1.
@1stZeu
@1stZeu Ай бұрын
Has anyone tried pressing the square button to see if anything would appear? Normally pressing square activates the "capture" mode, so if there is a Digimon, even if invisible, its status and location may appear, who knows, maybe throw a toy plane to try to catch it. When I played I didn't care about Tera Domain, I thought there was nothing there, but I certainly would have checked if I had known about this rumor.
@HaalvarBrandGoods
@HaalvarBrandGoods Ай бұрын
Guess I'll leave my kimeramon Bigfoot sighting here I seem to remember in the early game there is a domain where you can find a MetalGreymon pretty early on. On one of my play throughs ages ago there was a Kimeramon there instead. Honestly the only reason I knew it was even in the game
@jimmypfrompallettown5753
@jimmypfrompallettown5753 2 ай бұрын
Now I have to start a new game over as a blue falcon(the actual team Akira was training for with zudokorn) I used to think that I had to connect my digimon v pet to the game, I believe they were going to make an attachment for the first game but didn't have time and wanted to use it on this game, every digimon available in the v pets at the time seem to be available in this game, I remember a kid telling me he saw lemon again after fighting the training domain 5 times I wonder if clearing them multiple times affects it, since the domains randomize to a certain point
@pelipperd00d31
@pelipperd00d31 2 ай бұрын
It would be pretty funny if Kimeramon was ACTUALLY something like Mew, but glitchless to obtain I never played the game, but it has trading right? Couldn't at some point trading be considered among players? Through different regions even? So if it was possible to trade a Digimon from a seemingly different version of the game (say Japanese version) with a regular one (English version) and ONLY then DNA Digivolved the traded Digimon into something, you could possibly get Kimeramon This is obviously ridiculous but it would be a pretty *unique* way to obtain it It's a chimera made of digimon with different types of code afterall
@CrystalPapa
@CrystalPapa 2 ай бұрын
I really like the idea you've presented here! Sounds really fun, although I don't know if World 2 would have had the popularity to make such a cool idea work 😅.
@pelipperd00d31
@pelipperd00d31 2 ай бұрын
@@CrystalPapa right? It's unfortunate especially because it is considered the worst out of the 3 World games Oh I wait nvm, there are 4 World games right? At least the community doesn't collectively try to erase the game from the franchise's legacy... 💀
@Lurmmings
@Lurmmings 2 ай бұрын
@@pelipperd00d31 The Digimon World series is still ongoing! But the Digimon World "trilogy" just refers to the games on PS1, Digimon World 4 was PS2 ^^
@rjproduction486
@rjproduction486 Ай бұрын
I remember I was able to reach terra domain 99 floor after 4 or 5 hours of non stop playing digimon world 2. And when I reached the 99 floor and found out there is no boss fight/kimeramon, I was massively dissaponted! I feel I was scam! After that I checked the internet and foud that kimeramon "allegedly" have a spawn rate of 1/666! This is BS!
@shay4068
@shay4068 15 күн бұрын
Why do Japanese companies do this? Every time something special happens or they want it to happen in one of their games it’s always through events and only 20 people can get the thing, I really hate that.
@PhantomDR
@PhantomDR Ай бұрын
When you got the unique message on the floor, did you check all digimon on the floors? Or even kill all of them?
@S4NSE
@S4NSE Ай бұрын
what if you need the digimon that chimeramon is made out of. btw how do you structure your videos, I mean do you write a script first? But you have to do research first to fill in all the gaps no?
@rjproduction486
@rjproduction486 Ай бұрын
Did you try exploring again the final dungeon? (not terra domain) Maybe jijimon is in their?
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