COD Black Ops Cold War: PS5 vs Xbox Series X - Ray Tracing, 120Hz Mode Tests + Series S Analysis!

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3 жыл бұрын

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UPDATE: Let's clarify some of the confusion here. We've checked Series S and despite the fact that you can download an RT shadows pack, it does not look like Series S uses it. There is no option to engage RT shadows, although there are missing shadows at 8:55 that have now been fixed: • COD Cold War Xbox Seri...
UPDATE 2: Also some debate about the PS5's frame-rate drop in RT mode. This is what happens when you play the game, but it is a bug. If you restart from checkpoint, there's a chance you'll get the sequence running with much improved performance: • COD Cold War PS5: Fram...
Black Ops Cold War ranks among the best ways to showcase the next-gen PS5 and Xbox Series X hardware at launch. A strong performing 120Hz mode and ray-traced shadows both feature - in a package that's all round surprising for its polish in its frame-rate delivery. Tom and John team up to pick out the advantages of each console release - and also the fate of the Series S version.
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@DigitalFoundry
@DigitalFoundry 3 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone - the usual caveats here: KZbin is currently experiencing profound issues in promptly encoding 4K and high quality 1080p versions of our content - all of our next-gen console videos are mastered at 4K unless we mention otherwise. Right now, we have no idea when higher quality versions will resolve but we are in touch with KZbin support to hopefully get this situation addressed.
@Adnan-sk4jr
@Adnan-sk4jr 3 жыл бұрын
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@EMC_CO86_0_Z
@EMC_CO86_0_Z 3 жыл бұрын
I can only do 60 FPS 4K with ray tracing with hdmi 2.0
@BigMac5
@BigMac5 3 жыл бұрын
Dirt 5 is still at 1080p 2 days later wtf?
@madgebishop5409
@madgebishop5409 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigMac5 yeah i noticed that
@GeneralKenobi69420
@GeneralKenobi69420 3 жыл бұрын
So why was the sponsored Godfall video immediately available in 4k60 then?
@justinstewart950
@justinstewart950 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that they were able to hit 4k (dynamic of course) with ray-tracing at 60fps is impressive
@heisenbergwhite00
@heisenbergwhite00 3 жыл бұрын
Both consoles are impressive this gen, p we've comed along way from how outdated the Xbox one and the PS4 where whey they got released, this time around they're closer to PC Than ever!
@florianebner934
@florianebner934 3 жыл бұрын
@@heisenbergwhite00 Good thing AMD isn’t utter bullshit no more.
@destruction3605
@destruction3605 3 жыл бұрын
@@heisenbergwhite00 id even say they were ahead of PCs when being made (cards and SSD) .. now that the new cards came out .. not so much.. lol but as you said the closest we've been ever .. both are impressive machinery
@venbeer
@venbeer 3 жыл бұрын
@@heisenbergwhite00 they were pretty close before RTX 30 and RX 6000. Obviously there is no contest when it comes to cost or value, but in terms of peak performance they are already dated
@AlienwareGaming
@AlienwareGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It’s only ray traced shadows so it’s barely “ray tracing”. Nothing like what WD Legion is doing.
@scapingby
@scapingby 3 жыл бұрын
The human eye is not capable of seeing past "Out of stock"
@roketootoo1136
@roketootoo1136 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! 😁
@Mampfie
@Mampfie 3 жыл бұрын
glad i wasnt able to get one, reading news about how buggy those consoles are made me happy. i'll wait for the fixed versions in 5 month
@bissy97
@bissy97 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mampfie Yeah getting a console at launch you are beta testing them. Waiting is better.
@ulisesnavarro4205
@ulisesnavarro4205 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Sh-hg8kf
@Sh-hg8kf 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile some stores here charge 1100+ usd for the Ps5. Sucks when many stores are scalpers in your country
@erubalu
@erubalu 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin's compression is destroying our notion of these new games. We really need to play them to really see how they look...
@billoddy1645
@billoddy1645 3 жыл бұрын
Not many will understand this either
@reykennedy5716
@reykennedy5716 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah KZbin 4k on a 60+" 4k TV looks like garbage. Not much point to even being 4k if just in pixels.. I never notice much difference above 720p on my 1440 cell phone, but blown up... Yeah
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 3 жыл бұрын
It's because the graphical improvements nowadays are so mild you can't tell the difference through KZbin anymore
@sabokgaming3438
@sabokgaming3438 3 жыл бұрын
It always been like that. 13 year ago cod was also at 60fps but KZbin videos were running at 30fps only and most of them were 480p max
@mattjudy6780
@mattjudy6780 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin needs to do better
@meganclare7
@meganclare7 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing all this with launch titles makes me super excited for games in the new generation
@19RoFlMao19
@19RoFlMao19 3 жыл бұрын
This is the way. P.S. the guy who recorded this footage of campaign. Did he play of extra easy. He is literally blasting those heavies on this face and not getting killed lol. 😂🤣
@DesertCow1000
@DesertCow1000 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way! Super exciting to see such parity between platforms, now the onus is on the game devs to crank the detail up through the roof!!!
@josiahsegovia9248
@josiahsegovia9248 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait either
@David-nd4to
@David-nd4to 3 жыл бұрын
May see things that are truly noteworthy now. Wasn’t really anything like that in ps4
@winlover37
@winlover37 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting on the games.
@SeaToSkyImages
@SeaToSkyImages 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe we're getting games that look this good, and are running at 120fps on console this early in the generation. I'm impressed.
@moonflare7070
@moonflare7070 3 жыл бұрын
Running up to 120**
@phloppywhoppy7476
@phloppywhoppy7476 3 жыл бұрын
@@moonflare7070 They said it runs at a perfect 120 FPS most of the time. Try again.
@moonflare7070
@moonflare7070 3 жыл бұрын
@@phloppywhoppy7476 hey. You just said most of the time
@palpablehen65
@palpablehen65 3 жыл бұрын
@@runningbear6391 i personally dont think graphics are going to improve a lot going further, at least for console gaming. the real innovation will be 4k gaming, higher frame rates, and better ray tracing, and improved load times.
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 3 жыл бұрын
The game doesn’t look good at all. Looks worse than MW 2019 on my PS4 pro. But 120fps when playing zombies is great.
@opossumoutlaw7534
@opossumoutlaw7534 3 жыл бұрын
Man ill never get enough of these hardware comparison videos
@GreysDen
@GreysDen 3 жыл бұрын
Question: Is it still greyed out if you just allow the option "game default"?
@inFamous_Izanagi
@inFamous_Izanagi 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Squantle
@Squantle 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of those games I’ll get 4 years from now at a bargain bin sale just to play through the campaign
@BlindMaphisto
@BlindMaphisto 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me. I just got through playing the CoD infinite warfare campaign today. Got it for 10 bucks. Actually a really fun single player on that one. A strong "The Expanse" vibe to it.
@HardcorePanda
@HardcorePanda 3 жыл бұрын
still, outsell your favourite game.
@hamidmehrdad5805
@hamidmehrdad5805 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I couldn’t care less about the multiplayer so maybe if it’s 10 or 15 I’ll buy it.
@brechtxt8096
@brechtxt8096 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t, the campaign is pretty ass. Buy it now for multiplayer and zombies or don’t buy it all is what I’d say.
@belland_dog8235
@belland_dog8235 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcorePanda Well, somehow I doubt it but even if it did why does that matter?
@user-dz2gj3pn5n
@user-dz2gj3pn5n 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao digital foundry cant say anything good about any console without people saying they're being paid off by sony/microsoft
@TheOriginalSebacrush
@TheOriginalSebacrush 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen any comment like that
@user-dz2gj3pn5n
@user-dz2gj3pn5n 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalSebacrush sort by new
@jeremiah9606
@jeremiah9606 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalSebacrush I dare you to check one of DF's Members John Linneman on Twitter, he's the one that mostly gets targeted and handles the fanboys who make the stupidest conspiracies about DF being a shill to Microsoft/Sony
@Dizastermaster.
@Dizastermaster. 3 жыл бұрын
Cause they're fanboys. They can't even show off a console by itself without fanboys reducing the comments to nothingspeak. Saw lots of playstation people complaining about the original xbox showcase they did when Sony didn't even give out review consoles yet, and xbox fanboys complaining when they were commenting on the PS5 internals. Hell, I even saw sony fanboys complaining in the PS5 video cause they mentioned the Series X. All for a box that does nothing but play games for them.
@urbanmidnight1
@urbanmidnight1 3 жыл бұрын
They do have preference for Sony. Don't pretend these guys aren't bought. They are.
@concinnus
@concinnus 3 жыл бұрын
The word you're searching for, for the feeling in the trigger corresponding to actually firing, is called "break".
@thejoystickjunkies3991
@thejoystickjunkies3991 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should've tried changing the fov to 120 to see how it impacts on fps in both modes
@MHK_1990
@MHK_1990 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would affect it too much. At least for me, on PC, I get around 140fps on Cod at 120fov. Lowering to it to 80fov, same as console, only increases it by 5fps.
@madmax2069
@madmax2069 3 жыл бұрын
@@MHK_1990 that probably depends highly on your PCs specs.
@enzog1078
@enzog1078 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you play at 120. Standard fov for shooters is 74 vertical 103/106 horizontal. 120 Is total overkill.
@bradchikenheart2
@bradchikenheart2 3 жыл бұрын
@@enzog1078 why not
@enzog1078
@enzog1078 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradchikenheart2 because you get hugely bad fisheye and you can’t see enemies for shit from far away.
@SmallHalfBeard
@SmallHalfBeard 3 жыл бұрын
DF: "This is in 4k" Me watching on a 1080p screen with KZbin compression 👁️👄👁️
@bacardim390
@bacardim390 3 жыл бұрын
It’s KZbin. It’s been bad for a lot of content creators. It’s like lately it’s been like 2 or 3 days before the 4K version of the vid is ready.
@demoneddrogade6968
@demoneddrogade6968 3 жыл бұрын
Can the KZbin compression ever be fixed?
@user-yy5yx3oe8r
@user-yy5yx3oe8r 3 жыл бұрын
480p*
@silvesterstaloney8838
@silvesterstaloney8838 3 жыл бұрын
Watching in 144p No seriously... Cuz im from paxtan u know 😅
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 3 жыл бұрын
And I am watching on 720p screen(smartphone). I have 1440p monitor, but I can never choose more than 1080p which looks like 480p on it monitor forget some reason. At best.
@user-zh7th2ge1c
@user-zh7th2ge1c 3 жыл бұрын
RT for campaign, 120fps for multiplayer.
@cdr_bne
@cdr_bne 3 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@Elnmsk
@Elnmsk 3 жыл бұрын
Dualsense for campaing
@xMerari
@xMerari 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elnmsk no
@Elnmsk
@Elnmsk 3 жыл бұрын
@@xMerari 👍
@Turkboyz20
@Turkboyz20 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if your tv/monitor supports 120 FPS. And has hdmi2.1
@AfroMozes
@AfroMozes 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You guys are always awesome :-)
@oscarmedina7368
@oscarmedina7368 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see videos of budget gaming builds hitting 1440p variant games on pc vs a $299 Xbox ss. I think that’d be pretty damn cool to see how far consoles have come.
@stewardappiagyei6982
@stewardappiagyei6982 3 жыл бұрын
So Series X is faster in RT at some points, PS5 is faster in 120fps at some points.
@brucel6413
@brucel6413 3 жыл бұрын
Both are great!
@anelibrahimovic7787
@anelibrahimovic7787 3 жыл бұрын
well Series X having slight advantage in RT modes was to be expected. More CU helps with RT. However PS5 beating XboxSX in 120 mode while lacking VRR is suprising
@cold3341
@cold3341 3 жыл бұрын
@@anelibrahimovic7787 dosent make sense right😂
@dailydab303
@dailydab303 3 жыл бұрын
11:35 Xbox is overall faster, but it's to be expected. The only time it shouldn't is if its a bad port
@rinaa6865
@rinaa6865 3 жыл бұрын
These games are still Xbox one and PS4 based, it will be months before we see any Real results of the differences in the consoles.
@drujbanu
@drujbanu 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that KZbin compression completely destroyed this video quality especially on tv screen
@andrekohler5792
@andrekohler5792 3 жыл бұрын
I downloaded this video in HQ thanks to being a supporter on Patreon. Can highly recommend it if you watch all of DFs videos.
@Shadowninja1200
@Shadowninja1200 3 жыл бұрын
Got this game to play mp with friends. KZbin did not do this game any favor in making it look good but it actually look really good in person (on pc at least).
@Alex-kn7cb
@Alex-kn7cb 3 жыл бұрын
The videos are starting to look even more compressed nowadays with the amount of particles on screen now.
@krazyfrog
@krazyfrog 3 жыл бұрын
It's insane how KZbin chose precisely this time of the year to shit the bed with video encoding. It has been going on for well over a month now and they seem to give absolutely zero fucks about fixing it. This is what monopoly looks like.
@saucyx4
@saucyx4 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrekohler5792 does that allow you to watch videos native essentially?
@lescarpio
@lescarpio 3 жыл бұрын
Would you guys happen to have PC options to match console frame rates/graphics etc on the video docket? Very much enjoy your videos! Thank you for all your analysis!
@alexmeek610
@alexmeek610 3 жыл бұрын
High settings and medium for raytracing on a 2070
@dxdivid8166
@dxdivid8166 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Digital Foundry and hopefully in the future they can also put the subtitles in Spanish since in Latin America their analyzes also serve local developers
@n1gh7m4re
@n1gh7m4re 3 жыл бұрын
The "pinch point" is called the wall on firearms and its neat you have this feel now because you can reset the trigger to the wall with practice for quicker shots.
@brechtxt8096
@brechtxt8096 3 жыл бұрын
Or just use hair triggers
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool but have to admit this isn’t going to help the “violent games facilitate violent behavior” rhetoric in the news
@shftin2gear
@shftin2gear 3 жыл бұрын
@@spenny2cents nothing can help the news
@tjutech77
@tjutech77 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one. Thanks for your awesome videos!
@selfelements8037
@selfelements8037 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh I always love this time of the year. Comparisons Vs. Comparisons!
@rafaelsouto8318
@rafaelsouto8318 3 жыл бұрын
4K60 with RT enabled. Amazing for both consoles!
@YGOandMasterDuel
@YGOandMasterDuel 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the ps5 can't hit that FPS lowered to 40 to 45 fps... Ps5 can't handle it.
@jungle6815
@jungle6815 3 жыл бұрын
@@YGOandMasterDuel WTF bruh the chance for it to drop less than 60 is like 0.0001% xbox fanboy spotted
@jungle6815
@jungle6815 3 жыл бұрын
@Real 6thCypher Teraflops arent everything you clearly are a non-educated 12 year old
@danield7356
@danield7356 3 жыл бұрын
@@jungle6815 No but 52 CU vs 36 CU on the same architecture from AMD tells a whole lot.
@jungle6815
@jungle6815 3 жыл бұрын
@@danield7356 i dont notice that "huge" difference in fps though
@derluke668
@derluke668 3 жыл бұрын
Let's appreciate that both consoles deliver awesome performance for just 500€
@najib9093
@najib9093 3 жыл бұрын
£360 for digital PS5 too. Absolute steal for the amount of horsepower you’re getting.
@TheFirestriker101
@TheFirestriker101 3 жыл бұрын
@MonsterKat you’re going to attract mad pc users lol
@rajakhan12346
@rajakhan12346 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFirestriker101 😂🍿
@kellykun5090
@kellykun5090 3 жыл бұрын
@MonsterKat my i7 9700k rtx 2060 super can barely cope with lowest settings over 120fps
@jaseybaby3360
@jaseybaby3360 3 жыл бұрын
@@starrynight5633 Nintendo market is hand held , the docking station on the switch is just a bonus . They don’t need to learn anything if you goes by the number of consoles sold , the switch has outsold the Xbox one in a lot less years ,
@FlyYouFools88
@FlyYouFools88 3 жыл бұрын
This just goes to show how powerful both consoles are. Can't wait for games next year to be properly optimised on both 👌🏽
@parallelfinn
@parallelfinn 3 жыл бұрын
@John James Rambo You're right, ps2 could run this. Thank god for optimisation.
@parallelfinn
@parallelfinn 3 жыл бұрын
@John James Rambo ask what
@hi-tych
@hi-tych 3 жыл бұрын
Truth. Everyone arguing about stuff now. Next year the games are gonna play dope.
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 3 жыл бұрын
Games won't properly take advantage of it for like 2 years in my opinion. Gotta wait for those older consoles to die off
@MrMilkyCoco
@MrMilkyCoco 3 жыл бұрын
Its optimised for all platforms...problem is I wished they understood compression cause the game is way too big.
@benvids
@benvids 3 жыл бұрын
I’m only here for the banter, boys. I don’t have either console.
@thomassmith4999
@thomassmith4999 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was a good comeback for the Xbox today, seems it some circumstances it might beat the PS5 in raytracing. But isn't as fast in Raster.
@write2nick
@write2nick 3 жыл бұрын
This game is crashes often on my ps5 and had some significant frame rate drops while ADS in and out. I believe these issues will get fixed. I just love using adaptive trigger so hopefully.
@averagecartoonfan3519
@averagecartoonfan3519 3 жыл бұрын
@@write2nick I had no issues like that at all...
@Random_qubit
@Random_qubit 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagecartoonfan3519 Same , i play a couple hrs a day and not one crash on PS5 yet .
@takohma1056
@takohma1056 3 жыл бұрын
Me too buddy lol.
@VideosbySteve
@VideosbySteve 3 жыл бұрын
8:43 the way the shadows fade out just makes it look like its limited to a small viewing angle...drives me crazy!!!!
@noobdebusca1757
@noobdebusca1757 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I saw that things, that means, RT shadown was terriblea implemented
@vincetheprince899
@vincetheprince899 3 жыл бұрын
@@noobdebusca1757 they are. And they are incredibly taxing compared to MW. I got 60 fps ultra + RT on mw no dlss now I get 20-30 with 45 when dlss is on. How the game looks no better at all
@krazyfrog
@krazyfrog 3 жыл бұрын
it seems limited by the distance to the camera, which is how ray tracing is usually implemented in most games
@DirEnGay
@DirEnGay 3 жыл бұрын
It's the same in games like Spider-Man, Watch Dogs: Legion and many other modern games, and I'm guessing also in Cyberpunk 2077 when its launched. It's an odd decision to see reflections in water disappear just because you look down slightly. I thought that Ray-Tracing was meant to solve the field of view issue and reflections and shadows appear from out of view, but hardware limitations are showing in this instance I guess. Hopefully when they improve on this in future they find a way to have everything on screen work as intended.
@vincetheprince899
@vincetheprince899 3 жыл бұрын
@@DirEnGay ssr does not dissapear just because you deactivate raytracing. Also lets be honest who the fuck stares at reflections in the ocean???
@pratyushanand2111
@pratyushanand2111 3 жыл бұрын
Both run it almost identical except 2 setpiece moment when PS5 has drops for few seconds. 120hz few places Xbox drops few more frames than PS5. Rest almost identical Take a deep breath fanboys. You don't have anything to fight on this one
@destruction3605
@destruction3605 3 жыл бұрын
Yup agree .. both have highs and lows .. i actually expect this for the rest of the generation .. RT will look better on Xbox and high fps will look better on PS5 .. im an PS guy and i will most likely play with higher frames on default .. so im not bothered .. either way great game on both consoles
@WatsHisFace
@WatsHisFace 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that. Being even is bad for Series X since Series X is like 20% more powerful so it should look a lot better on Series X. The fact it doesn't is worrying.
@jonathanday4553
@jonathanday4553 3 жыл бұрын
Actually.... Adaptive triggers.
@Prodigy_Il
@Prodigy_Il 3 жыл бұрын
@@destruction3605 It wouldn't even consider those "lows", the drops in fps don't happen frequently at all and like Alex said 95% of the time the game runs perfect. Solid job by devs to get the game running how it should on both consoles
@jonathanday4553
@jonathanday4553 3 жыл бұрын
@@destruction3605 I think PS specd into VR this gen. They havevthe games now the perifereals.
@masti733
@masti733 3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see the series X and ps5 trading blows like this. The gap in power does seem to be less significant than it originally seemed.
@noctisgaming2939
@noctisgaming2939 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly not like Xbox fans said it would be.
@GetToThePointAlready
@GetToThePointAlready 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly not like Sony fans said it would be.
@noctisgaming2939
@noctisgaming2939 3 жыл бұрын
@@GetToThePointAlready Xbots claiming series x would be 30 percent more powerful than playstation 5, Where's that power difference?
@jhjfss
@jhjfss 3 жыл бұрын
@@noctisgaming2939 same can be said for the ssd, where's the speed difference?
@tadialbert1036
@tadialbert1036 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhjfss lol ps5 loads next gen games faster tho
@zipzeolocke2
@zipzeolocke2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know if game developers see a video like this about their game and instantly put out a patch to fix those sections of the game that have severe frame drops. I wonder if that problem on the PS5 during those two sections of the game still exist within the coming weeks of this video being uploaded. I wonder if digital foundry should start a series of videos regarding games they showcased over the past month getting fixed. I bet people would love to know their favorite game had its problems resolved and how well the game performs after the patching process
@lerozitos
@lerozitos 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@daniel-zt6im
@daniel-zt6im 3 жыл бұрын
The dips on the ps5 are bugs , check the description of the video .
@zipzeolocke2
@zipzeolocke2 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniel-zt6im That wasn't even the point of my comment. I'm referring to all games for every system and comparing the launch experience to 6 months later experience after patching.
@daniel-zt6im
@daniel-zt6im 3 жыл бұрын
@@zipzeolocke2 but you did mention it so i wanted to update you that yes with a patch we will see an improvement . in terms of comparing the games again after 6 months is a good idea , they don't even need to make seperate videos in my opinion , they can just do a long one that shows all the games .
@blaineturner4993
@blaineturner4993 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching at 1440p on a 720p TV on my 7 year old Xbox 🙃
@HitPointX
@HitPointX 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching on my 3DS at 140p with the 3D slider turned up 🙃
@JagsP95
@JagsP95 3 жыл бұрын
@8:40 look at the geometry difference on the minigun. All the cylindrical shapes are heavily faceted on the series S.
@FFruinmylife
@FFruinmylife 3 жыл бұрын
Shadow on XsX looks weird
@feisalilham1443
@feisalilham1443 3 жыл бұрын
I'm quite confused why but I got almsot identical graphic quality like series X on my Series S. I installed all extensions of hd quality patch on series s
@THEREALKEMMZ
@THEREALKEMMZ 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked so fast 💨 I need help, I’m addicted to digital foundry
@TheAlienGangster
@TheAlienGangster 3 жыл бұрын
Their content is incredibly useful. Around console release time, their channel usually surges in popularity. It happened when PS4 Pro and Xbox One X were new, and now during the Series X/PS5 period. They’re as authoritative and professional as it gets when it comes to performance and image quality comparisons.
@Billyfulu
@Billyfulu 3 жыл бұрын
Same here😭
@mwfcod0932
@mwfcod0932 3 жыл бұрын
I'm usually here for the video but mainly for the comments ☠😉
@blair5475
@blair5475 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to see kids fight each other in the comment session
@kthebarbarian8223
@kthebarbarian8223 3 жыл бұрын
It's like CRACK! 😂😂😂 It was like this at the start of the PS4/ X1 generation as well.
@kamikazehound3243
@kamikazehound3243 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see if 120hz actually gives an edge in multi player shooters on consoles, as in an edge that would really increase odds of winning vs someone playing at 60hz
@Objektiv_J
@Objektiv_J 3 жыл бұрын
I know the you guys are incredibly busy, but have you considered getting into reviewing displays? keep up the great work!
@JackLowry
@JackLowry 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that RDNA2 prefers higher clock speeds for standard rasterised rendering, whereas it has a ray accelerator per CU so will obviously prefer the more CUs in series X for ray tracing, this would explain the better 120fps performance on PS5 and the better RT performance on series X, it also scales to other games such as Valhalla running better on PS5 but DMCV running better on series X with RT, interesting topic though and something worth looking into with the pc RNDA2 cards
@destruction3605
@destruction3605 3 жыл бұрын
Yea like DMC5 it performs better on XB with RT and better in high FPS mode on PS5 .. either way looks great on both consoles .. no matter what you have you will be happy either way
@Tyron18
@Tyron18 3 жыл бұрын
@Alistair Sounds like you didn't watch the video lol
@davecolwell725
@davecolwell725 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds about spot on to me. @Alistair did you watch the same video I did? They said the ps5 is just edging out the series x on the 120hz mode and it makes sense that the cu count in the Xbox is going to give it a bit of an edge with raytracing exactly like Jack says.
@MisterCosta96
@MisterCosta96 3 жыл бұрын
@Alistair Literally shows the PS5 being *slightly* better in the 120Hz mode (not by a lot of course!)
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 3 жыл бұрын
The RT accelerators in each core also perform better with higher clocks.
@1051POWER
@1051POWER 3 жыл бұрын
Get the popcorn lads!
@budgetking2591
@budgetking2591 3 жыл бұрын
yeahhh
@stuartzimmermann4180
@stuartzimmermann4180 3 жыл бұрын
I've got Doritos this time getting bored with popcorn now lol
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 3 жыл бұрын
Toffee popcorn 🍿
@SergentXII
@SergentXII 3 жыл бұрын
I'm ready 🍿🍿
@bestintheworld7090
@bestintheworld7090 3 жыл бұрын
Pc guys just laughing at these kids fight a losing battle lol
@Bugattiboy912
@Bugattiboy912 3 жыл бұрын
Digital Foundry: This is in 4K. KZbin's compression: Should we tell them?
@pepdog6475
@pepdog6475 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Gamers wishing to make videos here on you tube as content creators can learn so much specially in how to verbalize and get points across . These 2 guys take turns talking . One goes in then steps back .the other guy goes in no over stepping and they cue each other in so smoothly . Notice no rumors, or leaks, no bashing, no insider reporting and when they don’t know something? They say I don’t know , or im not sure what’s going on here . That’s how you do it. Instead of them adding something they don’t know or guessing like all other guys do. This video presentation and what they say, how they say it is impressive. There is Corporate Level Presentation here . If anyone has been in that type of setting vocational wise? Knows exactly what I’m saying 👏👏👏👏👏
@Orain88
@Orain88 3 жыл бұрын
Series X is missing proper muzzle flashes and smoke effects in a lot of places. It's weird . . .
@Kornholic
@Kornholic 3 жыл бұрын
PS5 has an obvious advantage in most situations but DF is trying to downplay that. It seems like that Digital Foundry got scolded by MS after the Assassin's Creed Valhalla and Dirt 5 analysis videos.
@CeeBenz3
@CeeBenz3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kornholic how does it ? Because of some bugs ? You think a muzzle flash affects the whole game 🤣
@douglasfisher4068
@douglasfisher4068 3 жыл бұрын
@@CeeBenz3 I love how you guys think anytime the series x clearly has a feature turned off that it’s a “bug” you guys are hilarious
@CeeBenz3
@CeeBenz3 3 жыл бұрын
@@douglasfisher4068 must be a bug for ps5 for frames when RT is on too . When it comes to dirt 5, you can clearly see it's shitty optimization lol. Xbox next gen games has a lot a bug's like shutting my console down etc. Has alot more bugs than ps5. That's why DMC has been patched at 120hz locked
@Kornholic
@Kornholic 3 жыл бұрын
​@@CeeBenz3 PS5 dropping frames while RT is on IS a bug. The frame rate drop is not reproducible as seen on VG Tech's analysis: "There was an issue on PS5 where the frame rate could randomly drop below 60fps during scenes that it previously ran at a solid 60fps. This issue wasn't encountered on Xbox Series X. " Meanwhile Xbox Series X drops frames in 120fps every single time.
@StanderdSolution
@StanderdSolution 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I am play games at 4k 60 with RT exceeding my expectations
@AggressiveBeagle
@AggressiveBeagle 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see an up to date video on the best televisions for the next generation consoles from you guys. There are a few out there but I still have a lot of questions... for example, LCD or OLED or QLED? I’ve always had LCD but I’m wondering how rare “burn ins” are is it very hard to keep it from happening? Are you sacrificing picture quality for 2.1 capabilities? How much? What are your guys personal preferences? Is the Sony x900h really a good cheap option? Or should I wait until the Firmware issue has been resolved? 🤷‍♂️☹️
@jasondomican1991
@jasondomican1991 3 жыл бұрын
Fantasticly presented
@redeye259
@redeye259 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that ray tracing mode actually hits 60 fps. I plan to play through the campaign with that enabled. Otherwise it’s all 120 fps mode for me in multiplayer.
@Fermion.
@Fermion. 3 жыл бұрын
That's the best way to play, imo. I've been doing that on PC for years. "Immersive" settings for single player, "competitive" settings for multiplayer.
@DynamicUnreal
@DynamicUnreal 3 жыл бұрын
@@runningbear6391 Which means they were using last gen tools. RDNA 2 features and tools will unlock more performance as time progresses for both consoles.
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
It’s only ray traced shadows, literally the easiest and bare minimum ray tracing you’ll see
@DavidKnowles0
@DavidKnowles0 3 жыл бұрын
@@DynamicUnreal At the moment for example they probably have two lighting systems in place, ray tracing and conventional with the system having to run both a the same time. It will be interesting to see the performance in a couple of years when the entire game is done just by raytracing,
@andreasbilberg8150
@andreasbilberg8150 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrew thats Nvidia but ML?
@charliek2557
@charliek2557 3 жыл бұрын
Both consoles look great at 144p
@andrekohler5792
@andrekohler5792 3 жыл бұрын
Even the Nintendo 3DS looks good at 144p
@davgil47
@davgil47 3 жыл бұрын
Did you drop a 0 there bud?
@TayTheDay
@TayTheDay 3 жыл бұрын
No, you just dropped the joke
@davgil47
@davgil47 3 жыл бұрын
@@TayTheDay I got the joke but unless your internet is really bad you're not watching the vid at 144p.
@TayTheDay
@TayTheDay 3 жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@flapjackjuice3338
@flapjackjuice3338 3 жыл бұрын
Gave it a thumb, waiting on 4K to give it a view. Keep up the good work 👍
@Calibretto9
@Calibretto9 3 жыл бұрын
The phrase John is looking for is “trigger break” around the Dualsense 5.
@colewarner
@colewarner 3 жыл бұрын
Glad there's some give and take going on here. Each console can take a win in an area and neither hurts too bad overall. People can take a deep breath before yelling again
@Amy-J
@Amy-J 3 жыл бұрын
Seems completely fair. And it still heavily plays into the fact that there isn’t really a bad system this time round, only ones catering to different audiences with different needs.
@felipealbuquerque2978
@felipealbuquerque2978 3 жыл бұрын
13:47 no explosion on XSX, less smoke effects ... weird DF doesn't comment
@bennygeorge2440
@bennygeorge2440 3 жыл бұрын
wtf are u saying its the same shit stop capping now XD excuses
@Ghost-qk9ql
@Ghost-qk9ql 3 жыл бұрын
@@bennygeorge2440 There is way more detail in numerous scenes, if you say there isn't your either blind or lying..
@awaken5622
@awaken5622 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know which X series uses new APIs? and ps5 the same as ps4? And in the future X series will be more optimized?
@Ghost-qk9ql
@Ghost-qk9ql 3 жыл бұрын
@@awaken5622 Did you know that is not confirmed to be the cause. Did you know that has NOTHING to do with the post; PS5 clearly has better effects, seen numerous times in the video, yet it wasn't brought up , hmm..
@Phoenix-gz9xb
@Phoenix-gz9xb 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be a stupid conspiracist. Or listen to stupid conspiracist.
@TheAmazingYeti
@TheAmazingYeti 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great video, got every single bit of information that I was looking for. Think the PS5 will win out due to the controller. Glad it handles RT on PS5, I was skeptical.
@Culden1
@Culden1 3 жыл бұрын
"Been cranking in the background" amazing phrasing
@evanmurray3974
@evanmurray3974 3 жыл бұрын
both consoles need at least a year for devs to get use to them.
@AlphaDwg
@AlphaDwg 3 жыл бұрын
this is true but in the mean time VRR means all this performance stuff is moot on series x and eventually PS5 once they get that working. In fact this gen resolution and frame rate do not matter. Native resolution is almost dead and pointless waste of resources with all the reconstruction techniques that will be used and with VRR who cares about frame rate dips on either console?
@TSL73
@TSL73 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaDwg Exactly, I am actually glad I got Series X because it has VRR already frame rates don’t matter as much when you can enable that mode.
@IAmHereOrThere
@IAmHereOrThere 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think we'll really see the PS5/Series X handling things much better as devs use them more. Just hope activision/treyach fixes this dang console crashing bug soon.
@IAmHereOrThere
@IAmHereOrThere 3 жыл бұрын
@@chy.0190 I have Assassin's Creed on Series X and a VRR capable TV. I think I've only had one or two experiences so far where I've noticed frame dipping. I wonder if Ubisoft is working on a patch. I mean, one would assume haha.
@stuartzimmermann4180
@stuartzimmermann4180 3 жыл бұрын
Be even closer when they both get they're versions of dlss
@TheAlienGangster
@TheAlienGangster 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad that both consoles are similar enough and both provide a great experience.
@Blerk350z
@Blerk350z 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s good news for gaming in general. I got a PS5 because of GT7 but it’s good news that the Series X is a great console as well.
@sarahwhorge8390
@sarahwhorge8390 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blerk350z but xbox is better in every aspect feature rich truly next gen unlike ps5 just sayin lol XD
@AliHamza-sv4ni
@AliHamza-sv4ni 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarahwhorge8390 it's funny you say that since In dirt 5 . Ps5 literally had more detail in textures and foliage in performance mode while series x had lower settings. You can check out the df video. Ps5 also had more stable frame rates in that game and also in the performance mode in dmc 5 . Unlike what you fan boys have been claiming. Almost every cross platform title that is coming out. Ps5 is either ruining games exactly the same as xbox or better. Cry more
@XxSupernatural21xX
@XxSupernatural21xX 3 жыл бұрын
@@AliHamza-sv4ni Even in a different comparison, PS5 destroyed Xbox in fps and graphical fidelity on Cold War. Series X effects are lowered also
@dannolest1409
@dannolest1409 3 жыл бұрын
@@AliHamza-sv4ni did you mute the vid? Series X is getting a patch, seems like lvl of detail was ported from the Xone Version... and lets be honest you cant tell the performance difference a few weeks after launch
@ninjafukwan7
@ninjafukwan7 3 жыл бұрын
great show !!
@HT-ed4ke
@HT-ed4ke 3 жыл бұрын
Both are impressive, well done
@simonuk1213
@simonuk1213 3 жыл бұрын
On the helicopter mission there’s muzzle flash and smoke effects when firing the mini gun on PS5 but none on the Series X, bit weird.
@Handonforehead
@Handonforehead 3 жыл бұрын
Also there's more smoke even when firing normal guns on ps5 for some reason
@Repsahj
@Repsahj 3 жыл бұрын
DF didnt notice that. Weird.
@littlegloom
@littlegloom 3 жыл бұрын
Odd. The reflection from the muzzle flash is actually showing on the gun
@akenney1234
@akenney1234 3 жыл бұрын
Well spotted. Interestingly there is muzzle flash (poss smoke too) on the XSS footage. It must be an error/bug 🤷‍♂️
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Repsahj that’s because if brought up the xbots would riot. Ps5 wins again.
@6ixnik73
@6ixnik73 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. All the Fanboys wanting a side by side graph. Lol
@mannyduran8458
@mannyduran8458 3 жыл бұрын
@@dd-yt5054 what ever helps you sleep at night.
@bigmol1633
@bigmol1633 3 жыл бұрын
@@dd-yt5054 yeah funny they do a side by side when ps5 is marginally higher on the 120 mode in some places, but not when xbox is rock solid 60 with RT. Basically ps5 should just sack of RT. It's too weak.
@baldyairkid1831
@baldyairkid1831 3 жыл бұрын
@@mannyduran8458 This is the one time I would say the Series X actually outperformed the PS5 consistently All the other times it got whipped
@bonafide227
@bonafide227 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for they could start and spread the rumors oh my console is more powerful then yours because that's all they like to do criticize the other console that they don't like
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque 3 жыл бұрын
everyone who responds to this comment is a fanboy.. except me, cause I'm just making a point about the commenters, not the comment
@dieterkoch8414
@dieterkoch8414 3 жыл бұрын
So awesome... I wasnt going to buy this one but with this performance I cant say no now! Just need my Series X pickup date....
@fuckjoebiden
@fuckjoebiden 3 жыл бұрын
why not use HFTS instead of ray traced shadows? WD2 used it and it looked very nice, it fixed the imperfections of PCSS and it hit performance much less than ray tracing
@huawafabe
@huawafabe 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an LG B8 two years ago, thought i'm settled for some years... but now I'm stuck with 1080p120 and 4k60 and no VRR. I'm pissed.
@TheWetworm
@TheWetworm 3 жыл бұрын
Adaptive triggers are cool, you'll get alot more resistance in the aim trigger depending on the weight of the weapon. It can actually make it tiring using heavy weapons :/ I was surprised how "heavy" they programmed the bow, feels like I'm lugging around a LMG
@CesarMattos
@CesarMattos 3 жыл бұрын
and you k/d will go down. Keep using it. :)
@TheWetworm
@TheWetworm 3 жыл бұрын
@@CesarMattos eh?
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
@@CesarMattos nobody cares you tryhard sweaty console pleb
@Astralmess
@Astralmess 3 жыл бұрын
@@CesarMattos Well I doubt anyone here is playing for world series so there’s really no point to sweat.
@RightWingRadioShow
@RightWingRadioShow 3 жыл бұрын
Have you never shot a bow irl? Its heavy af.
@Mi2Lethal
@Mi2Lethal 3 жыл бұрын
15:13 John with the voice crack
@Woutanclan2000
@Woutanclan2000 3 жыл бұрын
So?
@Mi2Lethal
@Mi2Lethal 3 жыл бұрын
@@Woutanclan2000 there is no so
@steel6189
@steel6189 3 жыл бұрын
@@Woutanclan2000 What he said is what he meant
@GreysDen
@GreysDen 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, some quality content first thing in the morning!
@vladislavmaslenkov5505
@vladislavmaslenkov5505 3 жыл бұрын
On November 21st a patch was released that turns off my console. this is observed on both platforms
@shazamcawdwell3426
@shazamcawdwell3426 3 жыл бұрын
Thats call of duty for you
@alpertosun3497
@alpertosun3497 3 жыл бұрын
Have same problem on Series X
@KOTD2010
@KOTD2010 3 жыл бұрын
Try disabling the ray tracing in the settings, that should fix the issue until they patch the ray tracing
@joker2k999
@joker2k999 3 жыл бұрын
i can see they made a point to add, "both is fine" consistently in this video. LUL. I guess tired of the fanboys.
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter what they say. Fanboys do their rounds everyday on KZbin, they cherry pick statements from multiple videos, build a summary of the stats and than go on to convince themselves that their console is better by arguing with other competing fanboys. I wonder if there's ever been a fanboy somewhere that's successfully convinced a rival fanboy about their console being better.
@transfo47
@transfo47 3 жыл бұрын
John was getting destroyed on Twitter after the Dirt video, that's why.
@liammatthews2183
@liammatthews2183 3 жыл бұрын
@@transfo47 he wasn't destroyed, he was being harassed by pathetic little children insecure about their favourite plastic box
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername 3 жыл бұрын
@@transfo47 Oh my god. I didn't realise Twitter was like that (I dont use it). They actually think DF is biased? Lol, what idiots.
@mrcraggle
@mrcraggle 3 жыл бұрын
@@fcukugimmeausername It flip flops all the time. People accused them of being in MS pocket because they gave the Series X a bunch of publicity (let's all ignore the fact that MS sent consoles out to reviewers well in advance) and because Alex got the title of Miles Morales wrong. But now because they're comparing titles and the Xbox has been coming off worse, they're being attacked and keep spreading that the dev tools for Xbox art brand new and that's why and in 6 months time, the Xbox will make PS5 look like shit. It's so cringe. You're best off not being on Twitter. It's bad enough here.
@Gerenocidiac
@Gerenocidiac 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the stats in this video. With Cold War on consoles finally having an adjustable FOV I was disappointed the FPS numbers, resolutions and whatnot didn’t include what FOV you guys used? Also does it impact performance on console, or does the game adjust the resolution dynamically to adjust for increased FOV numbers. I’m sure some people crank it up to 120 and I have to assume since it wasn’t mentioned that this video was based on the default 80 FOV. Please be more detail oriented in future videos as I imagine more console games this generation will start allowing the user to adjust FOV. At the very least let us know if you kept the default FOV as for all we know maybe you set it to 60 to eke out some extra performance.
@wasaglass
@wasaglass 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really like having the adaptive triggers even in multi-player. I run and gun with my finger depressing the trigger button up to the point that the trigger pull is just a twitch away. Without adaptive triggers its hard to know where the exact sweet spot is that the gun actually shoots. So while it provides resistance against your finger it also tells you exactly how much pressure you have left to apply before the gun actually fires.
@TrentMac
@TrentMac Жыл бұрын
The difference is on Xbox it shoots immediately. There is no partial pulling of the trigger without firing. That's what they mean.
@Handonforehead
@Handonforehead 3 жыл бұрын
Just noticed that more smoke comes out of the gun barrels when firing on the ps5 for some reason
@kotboyarkin5032
@kotboyarkin5032 3 жыл бұрын
This is because the amount of smoke refers to console temperature. More smoke - hotter console. P.S. Just joking)
@XxSupernatural21xX
@XxSupernatural21xX 3 жыл бұрын
PS5 does have more effects than Series X. Previous comparisons between em showed the same thing. More effects and better graphical visuals on basically everything for PS5
@hazard4194
@hazard4194 3 жыл бұрын
@CYVstudio its the same gun lmao, ps5 is just better
@maxbrown9391
@maxbrown9391 3 жыл бұрын
Xbox struggles in some areas
@donovanowens8owens
@donovanowens8owens 3 жыл бұрын
@@XxSupernatural21xX Lol the fanboyism is so cringe.
@TheBf666
@TheBf666 3 жыл бұрын
I am interested to know how the current gen versions perform as well, digital foundry.
@BlackPaperMoon18
@BlackPaperMoon18 3 жыл бұрын
I think we need to move forward :) now we have old gen. Ps5 and xsx is current. But yeah...
@sugonmaballs
@sugonmaballs 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackPaperMoon18 Nah, last gen owners still need to see the comparisons to make better informed upgrade decisions. I'm still interested as well despite having the new consoles and a gaming PC.
@nonnygb
@nonnygb 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see both machines hitting the 120fps modes with little dips (that you wouldn't notice in real world play) and 60fps with RT on. Not bad at all for what is essentially a launch title. All I am hearing time and time again with these comparisons is that the one significant feature you want on your TV moving forwards is VRR. The amount of times this comes in to save the day with tearing I'd be ensuring I have that in any TV I buy. Hopefully Sony gets its A into gear and gets VRR support out for its console and its XH90 series TV...
@jimmyv3170
@jimmyv3170 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest accomplishment is getting the entire game on to one SSD on either console. It's quite the feat.
@bigpapasm
@bigpapasm 3 жыл бұрын
Its only a matter of time before CW takes up the entire ssd
@mindblow7617
@mindblow7617 3 жыл бұрын
sadly they are reportedly not using the SSD features of any of the new consoles, so they have repeated assets all over the files, maybe because this is a cross-gen title, they didn't bother to optimize it
@gregthefleetguy848
@gregthefleetguy848 3 жыл бұрын
At 13:49 you can notice more detail on the PS5, there’s literally a flaming ball of fire in the air. There’s tons of other points with more detail as well, why didn’t they mention this?
@Krynale
@Krynale 3 жыл бұрын
You're right there's was more debris flying on screen
@depressedperson9002
@depressedperson9002 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed it too there's more particle effect on ps5 and u can clearly see smoke coming out of guns on ps5 version but there's none on series x.....
@gregthefleetguy848
@gregthefleetguy848 3 жыл бұрын
@Y94R what? They’re both at 120fps in the frame...
@gregthefleetguy848
@gregthefleetguy848 3 жыл бұрын
@Y94R what’s the point of cinematic if you’re missing textures lol. Maybe the Xbox performs better because it’s on medium graphics compared to ultra on PS5 lmao
@maddysonher8059
@maddysonher8059 3 жыл бұрын
It wont matter to fanboys cuz of the 40 fps drop scene. No more excuses when we see more games comparison. Games arent fully optimize cuz of late devkits bs.
@kingmax9041
@kingmax9041 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprise by the results here. Great video. Thank God that didn’t get the SS. SX and PS5 are the true next generation experience.
@marcelorrios8689
@marcelorrios8689 3 жыл бұрын
I just don't get why the ps5 is more stable with 120, here and in dmc 5 gameplay videos.
@Aggrofool
@Aggrofool 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelorrios8689 xbox SDK a bit raw currently, should be okay in time
@mehrad1983
@mehrad1983 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aggrofool Damage control
@TheFirestriker101
@TheFirestriker101 3 жыл бұрын
?????
@kingmax9041
@kingmax9041 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelorrios8689 don’t forget remember PS5 dev kits was out a year earlier. Also the way the PS5 works is the same as the PS4 which Mark the lead Engineer of Sony stated. Which made it easier to develop for while Xbox was waiting on RDNA 2.0 and had a new Engine that was different from Xbox one. You have to give Xbox little time just like what happened with the PS4 had a great games of the generation like second son was great. Just give it time.
@MuscledRMH
@MuscledRMH 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on how Warzone is running between 100 - 120 FPS on Xbox Series X and S? Noticed this isn't the case on PS5. Likely due to it being a backwards compatible title?
@Dr.SkullScience77
@Dr.SkullScience77 3 жыл бұрын
It seems strange @8:50. I realise Series X and PS 5 are much superior to Series S but there is no good reason to have zero shadows, not even 'soft' shadowing on the Series S version, especially in cutscenes. I am guessing they were pressured to make distinct obvious improvements on the more expensive consoles.
@mardino2267
@mardino2267 3 жыл бұрын
Its now fixed bro, we also had now raytracing effects without the option to turn it on. But sony players dont believe lol, but i garantue this game on the series s is now completed fixed
@masti733
@masti733 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see DF do some Xbox one X vs X Box series S comparison videos. Less relevant I suppose but would be interesting.
@Chantzdc
@Chantzdc 3 жыл бұрын
The series S has replaced that.. one X no longer exists to journalists.. i sense that a lot of Series S buyers may be a little upset to find that some of their games dont run with the same fidelity as an old console, even despite quick resume and fast load times.
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
One X is dead. Series S will follow in a year or so
@sinnohen
@sinnohen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chantzdc The only thing the One X had going for it was its 4K capabilities. The Series S severely outclasses the One X in speed and performance, enough for the lack of 4K to not really be an issue. If you want more 4k content, get the Series X.
@masti733
@masti733 3 жыл бұрын
8th gen consoles will be around for another 2 years at least. It would be interesting to see how the 2 compare in the cross gen titles. A CPU limited console vs a GPU limited console. Just curious.
@masti733
@masti733 3 жыл бұрын
@v cam I bet it is man. I saw the DF on video on it. It's still an impressive bit of kit. It seems to me it's GPU is superior to the S bit it's CPU is inferior. That's why it love to see DF eventually compare them. Personally I just have a base PS4 and a gtx1060 laptop.
@benjamin5026
@benjamin5026 3 жыл бұрын
Its funny when we talk about frame rate drops in the terms of "chugging" when in reality the gameplay is still completely smooth. Coming from the era of lower strength PCs and consoles with 30 fps max if we had a frame rate hit then it was noticeably choppy and laggy and skippy. When we are talking about a trivial amount of frame difference at the higher frame rate levels then we are just hyper analyzing it because if the game for 99% of the time runs at a almost locked fps and the entire time the gameplay is buttery smooth and the only thing you got was a 10-20 fps millisecond drop in frames in a demanding spot of a game then really that is not something to critique about the game. If it was impacting the overall performance and experience of the game then totally, write it down as a point to point out but this is just minor trivial stuff. Im really surprised to see such good performances from both consoles with the features they are providing, i think we all thought they were offering too much and were only going to deliver on a portion of those promises.
@MrBenedick14
@MrBenedick14 3 жыл бұрын
It must be said.. Its better to point out the issues, the developers actually listen to digital foundry analysis,.. In the end it will benefit on pc, remember 99% of the games on pc are ps4 port..hehehe.. Its better to point out this issues..in the end this will benefit on pc
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBenedick14 We are starting to see more of a case for VRR on both consoles and PC because frame rates become less important as well as having a locked frame rate as long as the frame rate is high enough. I have to wonder what is taking Sony so long to enable that feature on the PS5.
@jokerzwild00
@jokerzwild00 3 жыл бұрын
If you come from that era then you know that people were just as bad about this crap as they are now. Maybe not in KZbin comments sections, but the forum wars were rough, as were the playground wars. And it's not just consoles, the nvidia vs ATi wars were just as bad as the Sony vs. MS or Nintendo vs. Sega shit. People buy into a brand and don't want to think they made the wrong choice, this has always been the case. And yeah, they'll overanalyze every frame and zoom in on every texture to look for any edge over the competition. In my experience it came to a fever pitch around the time the Xbone and ps4 came out. Things got nasty and DF was right here to fan the flames more than anyone, especially once the One was shown to fall behind in most every game. Sony fans acting like jackasses about it, MS fans being salty as hell... just assholes all around back then. DF owes their fortunes to fanboys, they are the ones giving them all the clicks and views. "Normal" people don't care about these insignificant differences, they just play what they have and buy whatever hardware can play the games they like.
@AdaaDK
@AdaaDK 3 жыл бұрын
``Coming from the era of lower strength PCs´´ , wtf are you on about, i run my games in 60-144 fps at 1440p, on high. U could easy build a pc over the last manny years that ran at good settings and high fps. Obviously it wasnt as cheap as a console, but most of that is saved in game prices and freebies + the lack of needing to pay to play online.
@funbrute31
@funbrute31 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdaaDK he played on consoles @ 30 FPS, so he thinks everyone played the same way even on PC. Talk bout living in a bubble
@GettingThereASAP
@GettingThereASAP 3 жыл бұрын
Is there anywhere you two tested what the performance was like increasing the FOV?
@dnbmania
@dnbmania 3 жыл бұрын
I feel a bit let down not being able to have 120Hz on the Series S on a lot of the games. They didn't give any information about 120Hz support prior to the console release, just that they're targeting 1440p with the Series S. I have found out that the console doesn't have the same features that I was looking for at this resolution and it's a long waiting list to upgrade unfortunately
@sinnohen
@sinnohen 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was a bit bummed about shelling out the extra $10 for the cross-gen version of this game for my series S, only to find that it didn't have ray-tracing or 120 fps. That being said, there are still quite a few games on Series S that can do 120fps, all of them being current gen games. I'm hopeful that game devs can figure out how to better utilize the hardware in the Series S as time goes on.
@drummer7557
@drummer7557 3 жыл бұрын
@@sinnohen It does have ray tracing, look it up, DF don't know everything ;O)
@sinnohen
@sinnohen 3 жыл бұрын
@@drummer7557 either way, I'm happy with how the game looks and runs.
@ShayonBurman
@ShayonBurman 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, btw sony said they will add VRR in a future update
@maxbrown9391
@maxbrown9391 3 жыл бұрын
They know this but won't mention it
@sm5925
@sm5925 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxbrown9391 yeh wtf
@parky669
@parky669 3 жыл бұрын
i heard that cod has a lot of crashes and problems. this true for anybody? so tempted to get it.
@badabingbing474
@badabingbing474 3 жыл бұрын
It's kinda buggy right now. seems to crash more in the campaign
@dafundraiser563
@dafundraiser563 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s crashed a lot for me over the weekend on PS5. But when it works it’s solid
@adanZ99
@adanZ99 3 жыл бұрын
Even zombies crashes a lot
@brechtxt8096
@brechtxt8096 3 жыл бұрын
Hasn’t crashed on me on XSX, only played the campaign and a few MP matches though.
@parky669
@parky669 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm I heard it was widespread on both but seems a lot on ps5. Gonna wait out till I hear it’s patched and good
@kaizer992
@kaizer992 3 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if yall could do an analysis on the series x and Ps5 upgraded for Mk11.
@cid2001
@cid2001 3 жыл бұрын
What are they using for reflections if they're using RT for shadows? cube maps? cube maps and SSR? I don't think it is SSR alone as in the opening bar scene you can have the window reflect things from behind you.
@doctorfresh3856
@doctorfresh3856 3 жыл бұрын
Does 120Hz mode on the XBSX also work at 4k resolution?
@Knutschel
@Knutschel 3 жыл бұрын
@@dixinc.5507 Your TV has only Hdmi 2.0
@SurvivalModeDT
@SurvivalModeDT 3 жыл бұрын
Not that it matters, but there are smoke effects from the gun barrels on the PS5 but missing on the sX?
@michaheinrich9919
@michaheinrich9919 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, i played on The xsx nad they're There, it depends on The weapon
@philrichjr
@philrichjr 3 жыл бұрын
Try again.... Same here. Definitely gun smoke there. Which is interesting cause it really wasn't in the alpha so glad they added it
@AFterMath-ld1vr
@AFterMath-ld1vr 3 жыл бұрын
Smoke. We talking about smoke now?? Good grief.
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
@@AFterMath-ld1vr not as pathetic as xbots praising the consoles packaging
@AFterMath-ld1vr
@AFterMath-ld1vr 3 жыл бұрын
@@spenny2cents All fanboys are ridiculous. I have both next gen consoles so when I see these wierd ass fanboys I can't understand it.
@demonhighwayman9403
@demonhighwayman9403 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a comparison between the one x and the series s please ?
@WiredMotorhead
@WiredMotorhead 3 жыл бұрын
Good review but no mention of the crashes?
@luismartins3785
@luismartins3785 3 жыл бұрын
DF: “They really take advantage of the Dual Sense controller, specifically on the PS5”
@andrekohler5792
@andrekohler5792 3 жыл бұрын
The Xbox Series controller works better on the Xbox though...
@TenderPantyz
@TenderPantyz 3 жыл бұрын
@MonsterKat I see you missed the joke.
@TommyGun0001
@TommyGun0001 3 жыл бұрын
@MonsterKat You missed the joke
@daydreamer8373
@daydreamer8373 3 жыл бұрын
@@TommyGun0001 Whoosh
@leebull3152
@leebull3152 3 жыл бұрын
He said specifically, not especially.
@FarmYardGaming
@FarmYardGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Have some popcorn if you read the comments, but if you just decide to enjoy the video that's probably better than what's going on
@stevespag9144
@stevespag9144 3 жыл бұрын
I want to play this game but hearing how it's crashing so many consoles I plan on waiting it out.
@lukeurry1628
@lukeurry1628 3 жыл бұрын
did you download the raytracing pack when you downloaded the version for the s? as i have seen other videos and the shadows are WAY WAY better than you have showed in your video?
@germanmartinez269
@germanmartinez269 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@RuneBa1
@RuneBa1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@FlyBird
@FlyBird 3 жыл бұрын
god bless the CPUs in these boxes. long way from the constant 35-50FPS the past two gens
@BigMac5
@BigMac5 3 жыл бұрын
insecure fanboys please play in your preferred system and stop putting so much of your self worth on a piece of hardware.
@Gavhouse
@Gavhouse 3 жыл бұрын
Digital Foundry basically wouldn't exist or at least have 90% less views was it not for fanboys be it PlayStation vs Xbox or Amd vs Nvidia/Intel. Denying our tribal instincts is going against nature and a lot less exciting way of life.
@BigMac5
@BigMac5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gavhouse where did you get the 90% from?
@-1nterruption-960
@-1nterruption-960 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gavhouse finally. One of the few people that brings up tribalism
@antwango
@antwango 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gavhouse YNWA!!!! City are shit! Arsenal and Manyanited banter clubs!!!!
@Moonscentedhunter
@Moonscentedhunter 3 жыл бұрын
I mean when the fanboys and you tubers and even Microsoft have been saying that the multiplats will run better without no proof it’s bound to happen.
@thenewgamerz8191
@thenewgamerz8191 3 жыл бұрын
My only problem is the floor textures in zombies where the snow disappears as u move around
@SJDanielakTV
@SJDanielakTV 3 жыл бұрын
A new update is dropping for ps5 and Xbox for raytracing issues, will there be an updated video for this?
@BonJovy
@BonJovy 3 жыл бұрын
no muzzle flash 14:15
@ericchap4085
@ericchap4085 3 жыл бұрын
There’s no gun smoke either on SX
@mohammadnaser7962
@mohammadnaser7962 3 жыл бұрын
Then im buying the PS to enjoy the realism of the no muzzle flash which is 100% a bug on the XB grow up kid
@BonJovy
@BonJovy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohammadnaser7962 grow up and start using punctuation marks. it's unreadable even when English is not a native language. PS5, exclusive content and exclusive haptic experience.
@douglasfisher4068
@douglasfisher4068 3 жыл бұрын
@@BonJovy it seems like whenever the ps5 outperforms the XSX which it currently is in many titles, it’s a “bug”. Man these people always got an excuse I swear.
@Handonforehead
@Handonforehead 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohammadnaser7962 the game has already received 3 patches and it still hasn't been changed so idk about that
@aaronh248
@aaronh248 3 жыл бұрын
So I guess this team had better tools than the others? Dunno about y'all but I'm surprised at the PS5s performance across a wide range of games at 120hz. It was never anything Sony marketed ... At all really until the very end. Pre-launch you had people thinking the system couldn't even do 60fps lol. Now it is doing as good or better than a stronger system at those framerates Microsoft talked about endlessly for months leading up to launch. So yeah very impressed. My personal take. The PS5s much faster GPU and much more efficient cache management is allowing it to push way, way over it's weight from the jump. Bodes EXTREMELY well for the future.
@naimhussain6013
@naimhussain6013 3 жыл бұрын
Series X hasn't had any major issue on 60fps so no the scenario is still the same
@phloppywhoppy7476
@phloppywhoppy7476 3 жыл бұрын
Clock speeds are just a part of the equation. Series X is ultimately the "faster" machine by having so many more CUs and consequently more TFLOPS. Also, cache scrubbers only spring into action when the SSD is read, they don't serve as a general GPU-boosting tool.
@aaronh248
@aaronh248 3 жыл бұрын
@@phloppywhoppy7476 more cache efficiency is perhaps the best, and cheapest, way to boost GPU performance. One of the largest hits a GPU can take during general performance is when there is a cache miss of any variety which causes the GPU to have to send a request to the CPU to find and remap the missing addresses as it doesn't have the data it needs to pull. That takes time and it is something every single programming team has to account for. There is 0% chance Sony put in those cache scrubbers only for SSD data reads. It is there for all data reads including from main memory where it would be needed most. Yeah the PS5 was built up as a streaming machine but that doesn't mean the cache scrubbers can only be activated by only the Coherency chip, that would be a complete waste. Those cache scrubbers will no doubt be imployed during any moments where cache needs to be scrubbed and rewritten.
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 3 жыл бұрын
@@phloppywhoppy7476 Still relying on teraflops ? I thought the Dirt 5 and Valhalla comparisons would’ve taught you better lol
@naimhussain6013
@naimhussain6013 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thanosdidtherighthing Both average 59fps and Dirt 5 is getting patched because it is bugged...
@TheVikingActual
@TheVikingActual 3 жыл бұрын
At 13:25 you can see the muzzle flash when you're shooting the minigun on PS5, but not on the Xbox.
@nickmotsarsky4382
@nickmotsarsky4382 3 жыл бұрын
Literally unplayable
@FreeAimDog
@FreeAimDog 3 жыл бұрын
its so weird seeing adler with HD textures after playing as him in call of duty mobile for afew months.
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