Charlie Nash (Street Fighter V) - Who Dat Again?

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@BigLadStudios
@BigLadStudios 8 жыл бұрын
As a Charlie fan, seeing Bison walk out alive and then stepped on the dogtags was so infuriating.
@SaiKisaragi
@SaiKisaragi 8 жыл бұрын
After that, I just turned off KZbin (I was watching Maximillion Dood, dude.) and booted up Alpha 2/3 and just played Charlie while crying.
@PeteTheGrouch
@PeteTheGrouch 8 жыл бұрын
You think the LEAST Capcom could've done was to make him look kinda hurt.. The way they chose to portray it, it seemed like Charlie's final attack did sweet f**k all!
@BigLadStudios
@BigLadStudios 8 жыл бұрын
I think it would've been a better ending to have Charlie use the last of his strength against Bison and does kill him. Charlie's incredibly weakened and could've had one last moment with Guile before he would die. Also, instead of Ryu over coming the Satsui No Hado before the Shadaloo infiltration, Necalli could've been the final boss maybe? They could've captured Necalli and experimented on him after his fight with Bison. Creating one last final boss and to give Ryu his time to shine.
@PeteTheGrouch
@PeteTheGrouch 8 жыл бұрын
SonicSuperBoom1 Not bad.. Certainly would've made more sense than the crap we got - Capcom seriously needs to hire better writers!
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 8 жыл бұрын
Yea, Necalli seemed like a wasted character and seemed to only exist to exemplify how powerful Bison and Ryu were...
@Getwright-
@Getwright- 8 жыл бұрын
i agree with everything in this video. Akuma is who ryu should beat. bison belongs to Charlie.
@burgerwolfbrown735
@burgerwolfbrown735 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe Charlie, Chun Li and Guile could have faced Bison as a team like in Alpha 3 but Charlie sacrifices himself like in Alpha 3
@gogetaburrito107
@gogetaburrito107 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day, when Ryu is down an out Charlie can interrupt Ryu and Defeat Oni once and for all
@ATerriblePlayer
@ATerriblePlayer 5 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way when Goku swooped in and killed Frieza instead of Vegeta.
@plaguedoctorravennotscp0496
@plaguedoctorravennotscp0496 4 жыл бұрын
This kinda ruined Ryu for me, this should've been Nash's battle, not Ryu's. I hope capcom stops relying on Ryu in future games.
@RyomenAyeni225
@RyomenAyeni225 2 жыл бұрын
@@gogetaburrito107 ye not happening
@MisteRRYouTuby
@MisteRRYouTuby 8 жыл бұрын
Now this is a solid criticism. I LOVE IT. And yes, as much as Ryu is the mascot of Street Fighter, this arc in particular wasn't his to finish. Guile or Chun Li should have finished it as it made perfect sense. It's also canon that Chun Li (and perhaps Guile as well) is responsible for taking down Shadaloo with her 'Legendary Legs,' according to Urien. So having NEITHER of them finish it is just out of place. Good eye on that one DiGi. Finally, as this has no place in discussion yet I still want to speak of it, WHAT IS UP WITH SEAN? Couldn't they at LEAST have better scenes with him or have him at LEAST put up a better fight!?
@Arausito
@Arausito 8 жыл бұрын
mk9, injustice and Mkx focused on one character at the time. SFV story feels rushed and disjointed
@KAXSH
@KAXSH 8 жыл бұрын
This WAS before he started training under Ken so...
@MisteRRYouTuby
@MisteRRYouTuby 8 жыл бұрын
Elwood Hellsythe True, but if that's the case, he would focus more on Basketball, would he not? A handheld game may be nice but where's the connection to his love for Basketball? Also, the dreds were over emphasized...perhaps it's cleaned up in th SFIII story, but it comes off as a bit lazy. Finally, the nail on the coffin, the 'little brother' trope. Sean is passionate about martial arts (from seeing Ken) and his own personal passion for Basketball. None of that was conveyed when Laura steps into the picture. It's like they retconned Sean as a character BEFORE he became a character. WOW, I'd LOVE to see a "Who Dat Again?" for Sean now.
@KAXSH
@KAXSH 8 жыл бұрын
Michael Rivers All good points, and as for your final one; SO WOULD I (0_0) *grabs popcorn* DIS GONE BE GOOD :')
@MisteRRYouTuby
@MisteRRYouTuby 8 жыл бұрын
Elwood Hellsythe We'd also have to add Chun Li as well to the mix. She gets downplayed HARD for being the 'Strongest Woman in the Word.'
@darkinfernostrike4054
@darkinfernostrike4054 8 жыл бұрын
I REALLY hate to even say this.... but at this point Charlie Nash is now officially the "Kenny" of this series now... *faceplams*
@NatiousIsPrinatious
@NatiousIsPrinatious 7 жыл бұрын
Wow that makes a lot of sense man.
@ultrariley7580
@ultrariley7580 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! They killed Charlie!
@RAY296
@RAY296 8 жыл бұрын
I love Ryu. Always have, always will. The whole Ryu-Ken-Gouken-Akuma-Oro storylines were my favorite. But I'll admit, that ending in part five was atrocious. I liked the idea that Capcom wanted to show Ryu master the Deijin Hagouken before the events of part 3. but jesus christ, they wasted Charlie's ENTIRE existence as a character. I, a Ryu fan, didn't even enjoy seeing him being the one to end Bison. it just did not feel right. I'm sorry to all Charlie Nash fans, you guys have truly been wronged.
@darthrevan6
@darthrevan6 8 жыл бұрын
Basically, you shouldn't care about SF's story because Capcom doesn't care about it either.
@cake6851
@cake6851 8 жыл бұрын
Colezy_k Well we got mvc infinite
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if buying out capcom would help much.
@demar.9k
@demar.9k 8 жыл бұрын
Nash's story was ruined but can someone explain to me the relevance of Necalli at all? He was just a dick that went around fighting lol
@idon896
@idon896 8 жыл бұрын
There WAS no relevance. If Necalli had not existed, nothing would've changed.
@NinjaWorldWarrior16
@NinjaWorldWarrior16 7 жыл бұрын
Shin Necalli is going to be a new final boss in the story, which is a very OP form.
@Madjabi
@Madjabi 8 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. As a Nash fan, I also think that SFV should have been HIS moment. Directly, by killing Bison, or indirectly, by giving the opportunity to Chun- li or Guile to close this arc. It should have been BECAUSE OF HIM if you know what i mean. Now, after wasting him, thinking that we won't see him anymore...... -_-
@mr.monkey354
@mr.monkey354 2 жыл бұрын
But he did indirectly kill bison, the entire reason why bison is not able to come back anymore was because he drained most of his psycho power
@ElBlackimar
@ElBlackimar 8 жыл бұрын
While what they did with Charlie sucked and disappointed me. It least he had a better role in the story than Alex, cause my gosh he literally had no purpose in being there except to call Dhalsim a mugger.
@Kalebent
@Kalebent 8 жыл бұрын
XD
@NekkoBlue
@NekkoBlue 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I definitely see what you mean by Nash playing a minimal role in the story. As a whole, I enjoyed the story mode for what it was, but when you get into the nitty gritty of it, it sort of just falls flat for some characters...
@doonuduwii3842
@doonuduwii3842 8 жыл бұрын
Especially Chun-li.
@TungstenViper
@TungstenViper 8 жыл бұрын
so you enjoy shit?
@NekkoBlue
@NekkoBlue 8 жыл бұрын
+Mr.Mugen93 It wasn't completely shit, it actually handled some characters (excluding a couple like Nash, Chun-Li, and Necalli) pretty well and it even set the tone for SFIII pretty decently.
@TungstenViper
@TungstenViper 8 жыл бұрын
Nekko Blue only thing done well was Ryu learning the emptyness art of Hado... Necalli was useless, Nash was wasted and pretty much usless, Chun-li just doesn't do shit, Rashid is annoyingly unfunny, Juri serves no purpose..., Cammy is somewhat decent. All the others are just there... doing whatever...
@NekkoBlue
@NekkoBlue 8 жыл бұрын
Mr.Mugen93 Like I said, I did think that Nash, Chun-Li, and Necalli were pretty damn underdeveloped, but I think Rashid, Juri, Cammy, and some others were pretty good. Rashid, despite being overly comedic at times, saved the world from being hit by the Black Moon. As for Juri, we got to see how she's been doing after the whole deal with her and Seth in SFIV.
@catherinegannon4892
@catherinegannon4892 8 жыл бұрын
Bloody Capcom writers, throwing away a backstory dripping with potential for a "Protagonist Of The Series Magically Appears And Saves The Day" moment... Great video as always DiGi, almost numbed the pain of my repeatedly slamming my head against my desk in frustration
@TENINCHLUVABOY
@TENINCHLUVABOY 3 жыл бұрын
HAVING NASH BEAT BISON WHO'S FAR STRONGER IS POTENTIAL? NOT ROSE BUT NASH?
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Bruce, potential. As in ot could be handled in a way that is genuinely satisfying.
@TENINCHLUVABOY
@TENINCHLUVABOY 3 жыл бұрын
@@fightingmedialounge519 YOU BEING A NASH FANBOY, IT WOULD BE SATISFYING FOR YOU TO MAKE HIM THE MAIN CHARACTER AND THROWAWAY CONSISTENCY AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BUILT UP BEFORE SO YOUR SIDE CHARACTER CAN BE THE MAN.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
@@TENINCHLUVABOY what are you talking abou? I'm saying the nash has more of a reason to want take down bison when compared ryu. So either the developers should have given Ryu a stronger connection to bison then just another evil tool, or they should have just let someone else be the main hero of the story; more specifically someone with a strong connection to shadow loo.
@Nenga117
@Nenga117 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a whos dat for Dudley?? He's one of my favorite Fighting game characters and I would love to see you make a video about him!
@silentaswang9968
@silentaswang9968 8 жыл бұрын
It's weird to believe such hype on a character was made for nothing at all. Man, this is so disappointing.
@Klonoahedgehog
@Klonoahedgehog 6 жыл бұрын
Silent Aswang That's unfortunate Capcoms M.O when it comes to returning characters from a franchise's past. They pull the same thing with Phoenix Wright characters at least twice per new game nowadays.
@kingoverseas9052
@kingoverseas9052 8 жыл бұрын
You echoed my sentiments on Charlie perfectly. My favourite character, reduced to...this. God I was SO happy to see him return, I even liked the look of his new stance and style, (gave me a Rugal Bernstein vibe) and yeah his appearance grew on me too. However seeing this has really amplified what a clown show his whole involvement has been, I mean really, really bad. Street Fighter V: Rashid and Karin Edition.
@Redblaze27
@Redblaze27 8 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see him in Street Fighter 7
@nickclark1815
@nickclark1815 8 жыл бұрын
I always figured Ryu defeated Bison and let Chun-Li have the credit, it fixes the plot hole and is definitely something Ryu would do, but yes, Charlie should've been the one to defeat Bison, he's capable of this, as he already did it, and while he's not exactly in his prime, it would've been nice to see Charlie's arc come to a satisfying close, but it seems Charlie is just doomed to fail.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Chun li actually took down the organization while ryu just got bison.
@djbubblegum9975
@djbubblegum9975 8 жыл бұрын
The cinematic story mode disappointed me so much. They should've made this story entirely about Charlie and Guile and then release another story next year talking about the new characters to SF5. And then the year after how everything starts to blend into SF3.
@rizhall
@rizhall 8 жыл бұрын
Ryu's my favorite character, and even I hated that Ryu was the one that stopped Bison in the end. My favorite thing about SF story is that even though Ryu's the poster boy for the series, he's rarely actually the "hero" of it. I think they dropped the ball hard on this one.
@nickclark1815
@nickclark1815 8 жыл бұрын
While I didn't like the decision, it kind of makes sense, at the end of the story he becomes IMMENSELY powerful(as in SF3 he defeats Alex, who defeated Gill, without taking a single hit, thanks to the Power of Nothingness) so he could be the only one who could finish Bison off, for good possibly, it also makes sense as to hiw Chun-Li gets credited because Ryu doesn't care about having the credit, and it also shows the fruits of his labors, as after all his training he shows how powerful he's become, though it throws Nash in a ditch, it would've been better if Nash defeated Bison, and in the second story mode Ryu defeats Akuma, that would've been great.
@rizhall
@rizhall 8 жыл бұрын
I think they should have not dropped the ball on Necalli so hard. If Necalli were portrayed as a true threat, then Ryu defeating him would have had a lot more oomph and he wouldn't need to beat Bison to show his growth.
@carlbloke8797
@carlbloke8797 6 жыл бұрын
rizhall agreed
@YoMamaBih
@YoMamaBih 8 жыл бұрын
That intro and outro song tho.. I looked on Sir J's and DiGi's SoundCloud and cried. I need to listen to these tunes raw. It's dope af.
@tonyotero1020
@tonyotero1020 8 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, someone that agrees with me. CHARLIE has always been my favorite character... So sad, smh
@logicalslime1780
@logicalslime1780 3 жыл бұрын
I pray charlie nash will be in the next street fighter
@spaceace9103
@spaceace9103 5 жыл бұрын
I unlocked Ryu in Smash Ultimate while watching this video and that will always be a memory I'll cherish
@ShadowDinosaurNetworkTV
@ShadowDinosaurNetworkTV 8 жыл бұрын
Charlie's appearance was more or less wasted here. With the fact his attack did nothing to Bison, not even weakened him. It's seemed like he was nothing more than a shoe horn and all it did was piss off the fans of him. What a waste that story arc was... I totally agree with you.
@vagabondgunmen2218
@vagabondgunmen2218 8 жыл бұрын
I agree Charlie, Chun-li, Guile, Cammy and Bison himself should have been the main focuses in the story...None of them really do that much (exception being cammy) whilst Rashid, F.A.N.G, Ryu and Karin are focused on more.....in the last Shadaloo stroy. Some say (and i think this too) that Nash's attack weakened Bison as well as the moons being shut off but it was shown poorly hence why it was confusing...But Chun-li should have finished Bison and Not Ryu....Heck a ryu and ken team up would have been better (like the old movie)
@charlienash1050
@charlienash1050 8 жыл бұрын
+Vagabond Gunmen one reason that Ryu was actually the one who killed Bison, is becuase SFV was the last game that had Ryu or anyone else the main protagonist. SF1's was Ryu, SF2's was ryu again but SF alpha series main protagonist was already me( i am charlie nash) and SF4's hero was Abel and after SFV there would be no other games left other than SF3 series,which the protagonist was and is going to be Alex. Ryu being the poster boy, and the true hero, unlike Abel or Charlie or even Alex who were just waste of characters, deserved another game for himself, so they gave him SFV. Charlie was only the main anti-hero and if you can, name a game that the acctul protagonist was the anti-hero ( Kazuya dosen't count becuase he was already corrupted enough). So stop saying that charlie or Chun li should have killed Bison, cause none of them had the strength to do so, charlie being too weak at both of the fights and chun li who was nearly killed by Bison. Ryu is no longer gling to be the poster boy or the hero of the series so respect him and don't blame capom for it's shitty job at the story mode. Now my soul can finally rest and who knows, maybe i'll be back in the future games or maybe change my game, like Guy and Cody did it, i hope it will be Overwatch.
@charlienash1050
@charlienash1050 8 жыл бұрын
+Vagabond Gunmen one reason that Ryu was actually the one who killed Bison, is becuase SFV was the last game that had Ryu or anyone else the main protagonist. SF1's was Ryu, SF2's was ryu again but SF alpha series main protagonist was already me( i am charlie nash) and SF4's hero was Abel and after SFV there would be no other games left other than SF3 series,which the protagonist was and is going to be Alex. Ryu being the poster boy, and the true hero, unlike Abel or Charlie or even Alex who were just waste of characters, deserved another game for himself, so they gave him SFV. Charlie was only the main anti-hero and if you can, name a game that the acctul protagonist was the anti-hero ( Kazuya dosen't count becuase he was already corrupted enough). So stop saying that charlie or Chun li should have killed Bison, cause none of them had the strength to do so, charlie being too weak at both of the fights and chun li who was nearly killed by Bison. Ryu is no longer gling to be the poster boy or the hero of the series so respect him and don't blame capom for it's shitty job at the story mode. Now my soul can finally rest and who knows, maybe i'll be back in the future games or maybe change my game, like Guy and Cody did it, i hope it will be Overwatch.
@vagabondgunmen2218
@vagabondgunmen2218 8 жыл бұрын
Charlie Nash Its just a massive retcon to the story though...i mean Urien even says Chun-li was the one who bought down Shadaloo (or heavily implied she did)...Ryu could still have been a protagonist but not against a villain like Bison and should have been unleashing his full potential against necalli (but cause the story sucks Necalli did nothing)...After the Sacrifice of Nash and Rashid turing off the moons Bison was pretty much at his weakest yet and Chun-li and guile were going to fight him knowing he was weakened until she notices F.A.N.G. and tells Ryu to do it since Li fen needed protecting from F.A.N.G....if Alex can defeat the likes of gill, Chun-li can beat a weak Bison
@charlienash1050
@charlienash1050 8 жыл бұрын
+Vagabond Gunmen chun li needed a motivation to defeat bison, she didn't so she fought F.A.N.G and led ryu finish him off. The reason that Alex could defeat Gill was because he was doing it to take revenge on his uncle that Gill nearly killed. Urien wasn't aware of that Ryu acctuly killed Bison, and it's becuase Ryu never states himself as the true hero so he led chun li and guile steel the spot light and cuase of that Urien mentioned Chun li brought shadoloo down, and for necalli, we all saw that Ryu beat him. After the fight he over comed the satsu no hado and killed Necalli's power. Chun li is only a stupid character who has done nothing but everyone still sees her as a true hero. During the SF2 chun lu's motivation was his father's death and then she avanged him but now in SFV she has no personal intention of bringing Bison down.
@stingernitro
@stingernitro 8 жыл бұрын
I love how you sum up everything, and you're right, they made his resurrection sad and Guile and Chun-Li being left at why not us? I even admit, I was in tears a little.
@PeteTheGrouch
@PeteTheGrouch 8 жыл бұрын
Spot on analysis - Capcom really dropped the ball on how they handled Nash's part in the story.... Alas, poor Charlie - You deserved better!
@surfinjj1514
@surfinjj1514 8 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so authentic and organic.
@sandypannu123
@sandypannu123 5 жыл бұрын
I wish capcom could bring back Charlie one more time so he can get a proper role in the story/Game
@MagickFlavour
@MagickFlavour 8 жыл бұрын
This was really disappointing. He was my favorite character to play as in X-Men vs Street Fighter.(love the shit out of that game, I have it on the Saturn.) So when I heard he was in 5, I was really excited. Too bad they handled his story arch really bad. I mean, I get that he sacrificed himself twice, but 3 times is overkill.
@TheGamersState
@TheGamersState 8 жыл бұрын
I like to believe that 1 of the main reasons Ryu was able to beat Bison was because Charlie's sacrifice weakened Bison so that Ryu could defeat him. The reason why I believe this is because Chun-Li says "His Psycho Power is..." but never finishes her sentence and then Guile tells Ryu to "Get him" which implies they could tell Bison's Power had been weakened. Sadly, thanks to the rather bad and vague writing, it's hard to interpret it, what they really should have done was made Charlie take down Bison and make Ryu go after Necalli. Not only would that have given Charlie's story a satisfying ending but also give Necalli a much better role because let's be honest, Necalli was very under-utilized in the story.
@attictrash7703
@attictrash7703 8 жыл бұрын
Necalli? who's that??? jk. the point of the joke was that Necalli barely did anything. he just popped up growled said "I must devourer" got his ass beat and then left
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 8 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what happens apparently. They could've done a better job of showing it though, like show Bison to be kinda surprised or something.
@RotaAbyssian
@RotaAbyssian 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagillanicaLouM What infuriates me about this is that there is a costume for Bison in game AT THAT TIME that had battle damage on it. How easy would it have been to swap the models out for your big fuck story mode to show that Charlie's final moment did more than just ruffle Bison's fucking coat!? Just one little change to make the world of difference. At least when Chaotzu blew up on Nappa, it broke his armor and scratched up his back. Bison sells it like someone turned on a damn fan.
@Hell_Soll
@Hell_Soll 8 жыл бұрын
I was shocked too that Charlies sacrifice was for nothing at the end... I realy like him as a character ;____;
@Hell_Soll
@Hell_Soll 8 жыл бұрын
Might be, but on another note, they missed a big opportunity to make the most epic Bison fight ever...
@idon896
@idon896 8 жыл бұрын
It certainly didn't feel like it considering he just walked out all dandy. If Nash had done literally nothing, a single Hadouken STILL would've one shot Bison.
@Chibi-Whan
@Chibi-Whan 6 жыл бұрын
sigh...Rest in peace charlie, may you shine in another medium. stay gold....alpha gold
@cake6851
@cake6851 8 жыл бұрын
Karen was the only character that mattered.
@PeteTheGrouch
@PeteTheGrouch 8 жыл бұрын
Karen got more story development devoted to her than Charlie & Ryu put together... (Btw; like your thumbnail.. Fate/Stay Night?)
@cake6851
@cake6851 8 жыл бұрын
PeteTheGrouch​​ Yeah Karen and Rashid (Not to the same extent) were the true protagonists. Yeah its Medusa
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 8 жыл бұрын
I'd say Rashid was more of the protagonist in this one. Karin just brought the whole group together and acted as leader, not something I have problem with, it is her money and power they're using to get around and do all of this. However, I do agree on DiGi's stance on how the story mode portrayed Charlie (and certain other characters). The writers really dropped the ball in certain aspects.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 4 жыл бұрын
Ryu was the one to defeat bison.
@TheXBladeist
@TheXBladeist 8 жыл бұрын
I feel sad for Nash. Man, I was really hoping something cool would come of it.
@KurstKensei
@KurstKensei 8 жыл бұрын
I dont know what Capcom was thinking a story like this could beat fighting game stories like MK9 and MKX
@AliB_97
@AliB_97 8 жыл бұрын
MKX story sucked
@KurstKensei
@KurstKensei 8 жыл бұрын
Ali Behrooz not compared to SFV
@demar.9k
@demar.9k 8 жыл бұрын
Even though the story was shit that doesn't mean they intended to out do MK
@SaiKisaragi
@SaiKisaragi 8 жыл бұрын
MKX story: Shinok gets beat by Johnny Cage for some reason, Murr Murr murr, Quan Chi gets stomped in the nuts, murr murr murr, Shinok loses by a Cage again for no real reason. SFV Story: Capcom doesn't do story. Some stories are ok , some stories are Ibuki (G-files aren't even mentioned again, she's a -horny schoolgirl- boy chaser all of a sudden, and I don't even know what she's even here in SFV), Some stories don't make any fucking sense. This story is that last one. KOF 90' Story: -Totally not a ripoff of The King of Iron Fist X- Pretty much the most simple out of all of these stories, and this hasn't been the first time there's a tournament type story.
@KurstKensei
@KurstKensei 8 жыл бұрын
Kaioken_ A devolper from capcom was quoted saying "this story is gonna be better than mkx."
@Bobbychawcer99
@Bobbychawcer99 8 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. I said this when I beat it the first time. Nash kills bison and Ryu should have killed nacalli like the trailer showed would happen. R.i.p Nash my favorite sfv character...
@SonnyBCreative
@SonnyBCreative 8 жыл бұрын
I cant imagine killing Necalli.. but i could imagine them having a multiple round fight.. with CG interactions in between. Bison's fight shouldve been multiple rounds too. but i dont think it's over. Remember Bison's alternate costume?
@Kalebent
@Kalebent 8 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better nyself. Such a wasted potential... We first hear his name in SF2 in Guile's ending and get curious who he might be. Then, we see him as a playable character in the Alpha series and begin to like the character, which adds more to his depth. Then, he sacrifices himself in Alpha 3 for his friend, who he is a mentor to and the said friend dedicates his life to finding his mentor and friend. Guile even puts his own family behind just so he could find Charlie and put an end to Bison. SFV brings Charlie back from the dead and ties him to Illuminati. So far, so good. We can finally see the epic conclusion to a two-decade-long story. This is where things seem to fall apart. SFV makes Charlie's Alpha 2 his canon death and not the Alpha 3 one, detracting from his depth. He is now not a friend who sacrificed himself for his friend and the greater good and made acquaintance with some other important SF characters (Chun-Li, Rose etc.), but a one-dimensional character whose sole purpose is to put an end to Bison. Fine, this is acceptable as long as Charlie does put an end to Bison or play a huge role to that end. But no, what do we get instead? A big sacrifice that did nothing to the man Charlie wanted dead so badly. And what happened to that huge build-up between Guile and Charlie over the years? NOTHING! Not only does Guile not attempt to talk to his BFF who he spent his life searching for, he doesn't shed a single tear when Charlie dies for good this time, IN FRONT OF HIS EYES! And Abel? Wasn't Charlie supposed to be the one who saved Abel from an old Shadaloo base back in the Alpha series? Wasn't that the whole deal with Abel's inclusion in SFIV? No, he doesn't evenseem to know Charlie. The worst part of the General Story was without a doubt Charlie and how he was handled after all that build-up. Biggest letdown of the decade for us who love the SF plot.
@carlbloke8797
@carlbloke8797 6 жыл бұрын
Ayk S so true and it's sad how fans seem to care more about how the lore should've been more than the actual writers
@spyrodarktv5111
@spyrodarktv5111 8 жыл бұрын
You have a type of coolness that just draws people to you naturally and I am no exception to that rule.
@DemonDethchase
@DemonDethchase 8 жыл бұрын
dunno if you might have thought this yourself but I thought Charlie's redesign reminded me of Victor from Darkstalkers with his stitched together look on his arm and across his face. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/darkstalkers/images/5/50/Victor_von_Gerdenheim_Darkstalkers_3.png/revision/latest?cb=20140311005310
@zackmarsh4912
@zackmarsh4912 8 жыл бұрын
It's be pretty funny to see a Victor costume for Nash.
@oddluck4180
@oddluck4180 6 жыл бұрын
They could've had two stories. One where Bison and Shadoloo are the main villains, and one where Necalli is the main villain. Ryu could've had Necalli, while Charlie and the gang take Shadoloo down. That would fix quite a few issues, and that would keep the overall story relatively the same considering how seperated Ryu and necalli are from the rest of the cast for a while.
@darkzq
@darkzq 5 жыл бұрын
This turned out to be a great critic of the game, story wise. Thanks.
@YolandaKikou
@YolandaKikou 6 жыл бұрын
Awesomeness
@kholdkhaos64ray11
@kholdkhaos64ray11 8 жыл бұрын
The story mode got more disappointing to me the more I thought about it after seeing it all. That final part with Bison just kinda nails it in the coffin.
@twlovelife
@twlovelife 8 жыл бұрын
Charlie is not dead he is like Bison, his host body is dead. Urien gave him an inferior replacement body, he will be back.
@NatiousIsPrinatious
@NatiousIsPrinatious 7 жыл бұрын
I personally feel Capcom won't do that. Plus, I wouldn't know what Nash would do in the series after the Shadowloo Arc.
@twlovelife
@twlovelife 7 жыл бұрын
NatiousIsPrinatious Well Shadow is the dead form of Nash. Shadow was featured in the Vs's series. They had to make a pre story for his Shadow form. streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow
@NatiousIsPrinatious
@NatiousIsPrinatious 7 жыл бұрын
Oh I remember Shadow. I read the The Life and Death(s) of Charlie Nash going through that. I just don't have to much faith in them doing that too much despite having that source of Shadow. To me makes want them to re-release SFV as definitive edition with extra cutscenes with things they really wanted. I know with Capcom not really favorable from past SF games, but with the story I would want to see that. Not just with Nash but with other characters to that didn't get much screen time.
@twlovelife
@twlovelife 7 жыл бұрын
NatiousIsPrinatious they are notorious for releasing extra versions of games they done it with every release. Akuma, Ryu & Bison had other incarnations. Charlie is only dead because Urien gave him a prototype body that was weak like street fighter 2 Bison when he got killed by Akuma. Believe me Charlie is coming back. 💯 Bison came back after he got killed by Akuma in Street Fighter 2. Urien would be foolish to give Charlie a strong body that would enable him to be stronger than him.
@NatiousIsPrinatious
@NatiousIsPrinatious 7 жыл бұрын
twlovelife Yeah. The body he had wasn't strong enough and him limited amount of time. It would've been interesting if they made him from parts of Seth since he had the sonic boom in SFIV which would make sense. However, Seth seems just as strong as Urien when equipped to Charlie. I personally would like for Charlie to come back and I believe you twlovelife on him coming back, but I'm just not positive in Capcom towards that. If Bison were to come back in a future installment like SF6 and encounters Gill or something then okay bring back Charlie to be the officially beat Bison.
@artistwolf4729
@artistwolf4729 6 жыл бұрын
I really agree with you're opinion R.I.P Charlie 1996(i think)-2017
@KN-592
@KN-592 8 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this
@spyrodarktv5111
@spyrodarktv5111 8 жыл бұрын
Keep being awesome at just being you dude. Always watching! :)
@BananaPancake06
@BananaPancake06 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah they could have done a lot better concerning the scenario. I had great expectations for Necalli and Nash, envisioning a final battle between Nash and Bison and Ryu VS Necalli, but none of that happened. In fact, Fang was the character that got the most attention, and I got fond of him. He was a good villain, but there was so much more potential with Necalli, or even Bison who was a joke. But overall, I enjoyed the story mode. It was better than MK9's and Sign's story modes.
@bobstayoffthegrass8772
@bobstayoffthegrass8772 7 жыл бұрын
Ooooooooh. Here I thought I was crazy for remembering her name as Helen, not having a damn clue why everyone was calling her Kolin. Codename. Got it.
@3ampfuse
@3ampfuse 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not even that familiar with SF lore, but man I feel bad for Charlie after watching this. BTW DiGi, would love to see you do a Who Dat? for some of the Killer Instinct cast (if you's a KI fan) and maybe even a Who Dat Again? for Faith from Mirror's Edge? Top job as always, mate.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 8 жыл бұрын
Yea, I saw the story on KZbin and I have to say I was a bit ticked that Ryu was the one to finish Bison when he had no personal stake in the story and filled such a small role in the grand scheme, yet at the same time I was none too surprised.
@tyrellmartin1861
@tyrellmartin1861 8 жыл бұрын
They did charlie dirty with him dying to bison near the end of sthe story mode. ;_;
@clausobv4446
@clausobv4446 8 жыл бұрын
Can I recomend Megaman X or Zero from the Megaman Zero series since we're still on capcom atm?
@CallsignJoNay
@CallsignJoNay 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said. Not sure what Capcom was thinking.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this Charlie problem was inevitable regardless of how well written the the rest of SFV was or wasn't. Thing about most resurrected anti heroes(aside from them being the protege' rather then the suto mentor) is that they are heavily connected to a prominent character. Guild's popular, but he isn't poster child popular which makes any story involving him not a priority.
@LiveLife91
@LiveLife91 4 жыл бұрын
25 yrs of his name being mentioned,Developing a characters Bio, Background History, building up Hype to lead to this ?! 😔 Street Fighter really Dropped the Ball on this 1 smh 😒 Like a wrecking BALL to the wall that took yrs to build 😭 (Built to just be taken down)
@johnniez
@johnniez 7 жыл бұрын
I concur on all points made here.
@Blit-X-TVLive
@Blit-X-TVLive 8 жыл бұрын
This review is absolutely spot on! keep up the great videos ram 💪
@Blit-X-TVLive
@Blit-X-TVLive 8 жыл бұрын
Fam*
@shoogles_
@shoogles_ 8 жыл бұрын
Never really sat down with Street Fighter, so I have no investment in the story. Dunno if it was your narration or what but holy fuck did I feel that anti-climax when Rashid showed up. Can't imagine how much of a kick in the baws that'd be for a fan.
@mskhkb
@mskhkb 8 жыл бұрын
Love your vids, also can we expect other cameos with Shaymay in future vids?
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 8 жыл бұрын
love this vid! keep up the great work
@thekittenfreakify
@thekittenfreakify 8 жыл бұрын
Huh charlie might offer a clue for future events with vega I think the illuminati might be what vega is looking for immortality.
@5-Volt
@5-Volt 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis Digi! It's rather unfortunate that Capcom missed so many great opportunities with Charlie & Guile... Anyways I'm exited for when/if you do a Who Dat Again? on Juri. I'm curious about what you think about Juri becoming a "Good guy" in SFVs story.
@Luca-sl7tb
@Luca-sl7tb 8 жыл бұрын
Street Fighter V's main story seems like a mixed bag to me. There were parts of it that I liked and I thought were enjoyable, or at least were done competently enough, and there were parts where some characters just felt like they were being shat on. I overall liked the way Cammy's storyline was handled, how she was portrayed and how she succeeded in freeing the other Dolls (considering the limits SFV's storytelling has). I also liked characters like Rashid (I was actually surprised toward the end by how much I ended up enjoying his character), F.A.N.G. (many hate him, but I love weird villain characters like him) and Karin, although they may have ended up stealing a bit too much of the show from the other characters who clearly suffered from it. I also liked how the story had humor and didn't take itself too seriously while also trying to tell a serious story (emphasis on "trying" because they weren't quite completely successful at it, let's say this), trying too hard to be edgy and dark is something that doesn't fit Street Fighter's style at all in my opinion and I'm glad that they avoided this pitfall. Thus I enjoyed the role of minor characters like Mika, Ibuki and Zangief. On the other hand it felt like some characters were just done half-assedly. Problem is: these characters are also generally the important ones for the "serious" half of the story. I agree with DiGi about Nash being a wasted opportunity squandered by poor writing, I feel that whoever wrote the story actually had an idea to do stuff the way DiGi suggested and that Nash role was supposed to feel much more meaningful but dropped the ball in execution (I think that what happened in the end was that Nash sacrificed himself to weaken Bison enough so that Ryu would have been able to defeat him, except this is something that is not clear at all just by looking at the cutscenes. There were also attempts at having Nash and Guile do something with each others but all lasted too short). Necalli was a joke, he didn't need to become an iconic character or whatever but at least he should have felt like a threatening side-villain, instead he feel like a minor annoyance for most of the story, so much for being the ancient soul-eating mesoamerican devourer of warriors! Chun-Li and Guile also felt almost useless and like they were just cannon fodder at moments (which is definitely wrong). Ryu is forced into being the protagonist of a story where he clearly just wanted to stay in the sidelines. Vega was there just to act as a threat/obstacle to Cammy's own story, he had no personal motives or reasons to stay in this. Juri is a little similar. And so on, and so on. Because I went in with pretty much low expectations I actually ended up enjoying the story, I expected utter mediocrity and was pleased to find that there were a couple of nice things here and there, but I can obviously see why people like DiGi are disappointed. This was after all the first time Street Fighter tried this sort of linear story thing, in a sense I think I still prefer the older way of telling characters' stories through arcade modes, as I feel it gave more room for the player to fill the blanks with his own imagination, which is something I always loved to do. Oh well, hope you will do a Cammy Who Dat next time, it's about time she gets some spotlight. She's my favourite character, and to be honest her attire and bare ass are the things I always cared the less about her. The whole "amnesiac soldier" and "former brainwashed assassin working for the villains now seeking redemption" were what make her such a captivating character for me.
@niceveraert1000
@niceveraert1000 8 жыл бұрын
Lets get the boi from NYC back in da mix
@Mak0h_
@Mak0h_ 8 жыл бұрын
@Sir J, please, post your music on KZbin- or better yet sell your music because I would buy them in a heartbeat! For some reason every time I hear these music pieces it reminds me of the glory Dreamcast days. Good times!
@butnuster354
@butnuster354 8 жыл бұрын
Great work my dude. Your analysis is on point like always and the splashes of humor here and there keep the video fresh. Do you happen to have any plans for a makoto video in the near future? She's one of my favorite characters (recently) and it would be nice to see some of your insights on her.
@ThisGamingDragon
@ThisGamingDragon 7 жыл бұрын
Did everyone forget the whole scene and conversation with Nash and Kolin about realizing he's not strong enough to beat Bison? He knows he's only a clay doll. And when Bison tells him he can't defeat his psycho power, he proclaims that he'll achieve his goal of making sure Bison dies. He knew he wouldn't take Bison down with him, so he absorbed his power and blew it all away to weaken him. I know it's not what we wanted, but I could see this outcome from a mile away.
@carlbloke8797
@carlbloke8797 6 жыл бұрын
ThisGamingDragon except it's still bad writing. Charlie could've easily been able to weaken bison pulling the ultimate sacrifice for Chun li and guile but they don't do that which ruins the whole store
@tailsgamer2438
@tailsgamer2438 8 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah new vidXD
@FonutYT
@FonutYT 8 жыл бұрын
uour not a gamer i am
@JonisNotHereAnymore
@JonisNotHereAnymore 8 жыл бұрын
+Fonut If you like video games, you're a gamer. This isn't a competition.
@KatsuKingTV
@KatsuKingTV 8 жыл бұрын
Guess what I'm gonna ask again....Where is dudley from street fighter? :)
@ASHtheSLUGCAT
@ASHtheSLUGCAT 8 жыл бұрын
makoto pls :) I mean if you want to that is...
@dennisroy6282
@dennisroy6282 5 жыл бұрын
All of your comments about Ryu being the one to beat Bison are SO true. It's infuriating, and kind of a slap in the face to fans who've followed the built-up backstories of Chun-Li, Charlie, Guile, and Cammy -- any of whom would have been the better choice to deal the final defeat to Bison.
@midgetgaming4real
@midgetgaming4real 7 жыл бұрын
your forgetting he was a shadaloo agent, and he was a seceret character in the first MvC as shadow, and a support character in the sequel.
@GhostFan-ev4di
@GhostFan-ev4di 6 жыл бұрын
Blakshado Games non canon stop mentioning shit,that isn't relavent.
@viciousweasel22
@viciousweasel22 8 жыл бұрын
This kinda gives me a majin vegeta vibe, especially with the way it concluded for both characters.
@johannesriebel5635
@johannesriebel5635 7 жыл бұрын
Charlie Charlie are you here? YE\S | NO NO | \YES Oh shit he is using his CA.... DEAD
@danbadd
@danbadd 7 жыл бұрын
Charlie was never powerful enough to defeat Bison, and neither was Chun Li. Charlie, however, absorbed a whole ton of Bison's psycho power which weakened him enough that he could be defeated by Ryu. if Charlie had not sacrificed himself not even street fighters main hero could have defeated Bison.
@carlbloke8797
@carlbloke8797 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Badd except Charlie wasn't written with any justi
@TigerintheMist
@TigerintheMist 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100 and 10% Nash should have been the one to take down in bison.. Nash is one of three Street Fighter characters that has defeated m.bison in a fight first it was Nash, then it was a Akuma and Ryu
@DaidriveCJ
@DaidriveCJ 8 жыл бұрын
Ryu is very much the trope of the "Designated Hero" of the overall Street Fighter canon. Aside from maybe Akuma, he never actually, intentionally fought against evil for the sake of taking it out and saving lives or the world. Bison was just another opponent to be defeated, an obstacle to overcome and little else.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 7 жыл бұрын
Talking about the results of Charlie's suicide attack as being like a discount DBZ villain made me think of Nappa and Chiaotzu. In this situation, Ryu is a perfect analogue for Goku, who showed up at the last moment to save the (arguably?) more nuanced and interesting characters-the ones who hadn't been killed, at least. Seems there's a pattern. Godamit, Japan.
@zetaflaremax1708
@zetaflaremax1708 6 жыл бұрын
Ryu was a good start to the series, showing what they first wanted to represent... But, as the saga advanced, becoming more deep and having more characters with important roles, Ryu stopped being the main character... THAT'S WHAT CAPCOM SEEMS NOT TO UNDERSTAND. Ryu had his moment, Capcom. Let other characters shine now.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't exactly say deep, but I get and agree with your point.
@Arausito
@Arausito 8 жыл бұрын
this is what happens when you pay more attention to the MLG fans than the casual fans. Some people care for the story and characters but Capcom focused their efforts on just the hardcore fanbase
@N0vatique
@N0vatique 8 жыл бұрын
I have so much trouble understanding the SF story , there are so many pieces of the story that i don't know where they come from like the illuminati, i never saw this name written in the Alpha games
@iscottista1950
@iscottista1950 8 жыл бұрын
Waiting on Karin Kanzuki. Interested to hear how you plan on giving her some appraisal as a main stay hero and how you drop shit on how the illuminati have no interaction with her. She pretty much plays the main role in the story.
@alder613
@alder613 8 жыл бұрын
YOU, SIR, ARE THE KING OF LEFT FIELD!
@blacknoise6
@blacknoise6 8 жыл бұрын
It's fine if fighting game enthusiasts don't care much for the stories. But can you imagine a series of tournaments where none of the competitors have a biography or motivation to fight? I think about Virtua Fighter, its lack of significant progress from J6 and the Dural phases since VF2, and its effect on its popularity. Every other leading fighter, SF included, has moved on to new adventures, and succeeds in maintaining mass appeal. Even Tekken is gearing to nip it in the bud with the Mishima saga. Anyway, I'm pleased that SF pushed forward past Shadowloo, yet, like you, Digi, I'm overly disappointed with Nash's journey. Capcom hyped him up to be the main opposition versus M. Bison, and they tossed him aside for Ryu, who sure as hell had no business at Shadowloo HQ. That goes for a handful of uninvited guests there, too.
@stannitramitchell2018
@stannitramitchell2018 6 жыл бұрын
I like why you were Street Fighter but after looking at this it feels like ryu is the Roman Reigns of Street Fighter
@eskeleto702
@eskeleto702 8 жыл бұрын
Alright! New video!
@ChiefKenn
@ChiefKenn 7 жыл бұрын
He should've been the main character of the story
@delshawngarner6648
@delshawngarner6648 8 жыл бұрын
what is the music playing in the beginning of the video
@troyskeete8372
@troyskeete8372 6 жыл бұрын
Ummm I don't know jack shit about Street fighters lore ut and I'm not sure if this is even cannon but could the green skin be connected to Charlie becoming Blanka? Is that even cannon? Hope I get some clarification on this.
@TheZanZaunTeam
@TheZanZaunTeam 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do Who dat again Juri Han.
@RoninGaijin
@RoninGaijin 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@ElegeantFencer
@ElegeantFencer 8 жыл бұрын
One way the writers couldve remedied this was for Necalli to appear again at the end and have Ryu fight Necalli again, and instead have Chun Li and/or Guile finish off Bison.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, yeah, why WAS Abel the only one driven mad by the Psycho Power? Seemed kinda pointless, really.
@bananatiergod
@bananatiergod 7 жыл бұрын
The4thSnake He was the only one who had Psycho Power contained within him out of all the fighters. He is a replacement body for Bison, after all.
@blinkshadown
@blinkshadown 8 жыл бұрын
i always called him charlie :-) as far as nash i didnt really know about it till i started playing in japanese arcades. i knew charlie was shadow aswell. (dead charlie/nash)
@xzenitramx666
@xzenitramx666 8 жыл бұрын
that kind of comic relief is called now the marvel joke plot
@Gullyszn
@Gullyszn 8 жыл бұрын
I hope Charlie is going to be in street fighter VI
@tokyozombe
@tokyozombe 8 жыл бұрын
they could have just went some obvious route such as, Chun beats F.A.N.G., Guile beats Balrog, Cammy beats Vega, Bison is beaten by Nash. Necalli eats Bison and fuses creating a bullshit street fighter boss that is not playable in the game that Ryu beats. this character is also reused for arcade mode when released eventually.
@mep6302
@mep6302 5 жыл бұрын
*gone
@yana707
@yana707 8 жыл бұрын
I'm still glad though,for them bring him back.So Guile doesn't have to suffer from him been missing.It's easier this way.Dead is better than nothing I guess.
@5th_dimensionartist
@5th_dimensionartist 3 жыл бұрын
For Street Fighter 6, bring back Ingrid for time travel retcons lol.
@headbreakable
@headbreakable 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, when ryu defeat nacali his story line is completed in the story mode, he is not even care the whole event anyway...
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