Direct Action BEARCAT; Ultralight, but BETTER Than The SPITFIRE?

[@frankopanklaric]

Seems like a product taillor made for me. Shame it wasn't around when I was in the market for one. Went with the spitfire. I now have what I have. All I can do now is buy ammo.

[@ReconBrothers]

Can't go wrong with both. Spending money on ammo and training is the way forward. 🤙

[@VeryFastRodi]

Maybe for a complete comparison, since Helikon is the main company. A comparison between the Spitfire , Bearcat and the Guardian carrier from Helikon. The Guardian feels like a mix between the Spitfire and Bearcat, have been thinking of maybe getting the Guardian one in time. And to use the the front flaps / pouches from Direct Action, since the flaps look like they would fit on there also. Do love the pouches from Direct Action, my whole belt set-up and chest rig is Direct Action, for the fact they can take different types of magazines. And you dont really need an extra retainer with them because they hold mags in place perfectly, without being difficult to remove if needed.

[@KineticApplicationsGroup]

Helikon is a relativly cheap brand thats produced in vietnam, DA is high quality pricey brand produced in EU, not a good comparison if you want a similar comparison with popular brands in Europe, I would compare it to Tasmanian tiger or Agilite, both of whom are expensive brands but produced in asia vietnam for TT and I believe thailand for agilite

[@VeryFastRodi]

@KineticApplicationsGroup price wise Helikon is a bit cheaper. But quality is very good from all the different stuff I use from Helikon. Have got several types of shirts, pants that I use for work, tactical training, every day and competition shooting. And it's the same company, helikon is the parent company to direct action. So it's basically comparing stuff from the same brand. Just at slightly different price (bearcat and guardian are very close) and different features.

[@KineticApplicationsGroup]

@@VeryFastRodi Yes I’m aware I’m saying there is no point in comparing the two, different ideas behind them, helikon outsources stuff to asia to make it cheaper for the user and DA makes it in house to give the user greater quality. As for interchangability that is not important at all as you can often interchange parts from multiple manufacturers half of the ones on the market use the velcro on front and back system

[@KineticApplicationsGroup]

@@VeryFastRodi You can’t really compare prices when the products are meant to be in a different niche, thats why I mentioned brands like agilite which is supposed to be this high end brand but in reality its a money grab and why chinese factories release copies of it with the same quality at 1/3 the price, you can make stuff decently at lower price in Asia but its not gonna be that much cheaper because materials, QC and then import will cost a lot, just look at Emerson whose blue label crye pants cost only about 100 dolars less than crye originals in US, around 120 for emerson and 250 for US

[@ReconBrothers]

Jumping in to the conversation 😉; Both Helikon-Tex and Direct action now fall under the group Entire-M. As for the purposes and where it is created, @kineticApplicationsGroup is completely correct. Hence we also offer very limited products from Helikon-tex, however we do also use some of their clothing as it is very good for every day use and can be easily replaced due to the lower cost. They have very good fits and in our opinion are very cool in design. For everything tactical we go to Direct Action. (So it always comes down to what you require.) As for Tasmanian Tiger to be a comparable brand, in a way of finishing and materials used, yes. In a way of being innovative and listening to user feedback, no way. Also Tasmanian Tiger has a lot of costs importing the products after Corona which sadly makes them overpriced. On the other hand Direct Action was able to expand and keep their prices almost static, some even dropped a few Euros. As for interchangeability, you would indeed expect that to be the case, but some brands use other buckles making you solely rely on the Velcro which isn't always ideal since some try to minimize the amount due to the buckle implementation. So compatibility is something that seriously needs to be tested before purchasing everything. For example Templar's gear G3 and G4, and Direct Action; Templar's gear changed their buckles and we've noticed that their G3 and G4 are compatible, but the buckles don't hold when you start loading the front flap. The back plates of both brands use zippers and are compatible, but when mixing the brands there is about a 10-15 cm offset in height, compared to the intended use. For most this is not an issue and they do in fact mix both brands, but to some that may be considered obstructing. For example if you have a back panel hanging 15 cm lower than intended it may obstruct with your belt setup. As for Israeli brands, we haven't tried them all, but we do indeed notice they are just very good at marketing. Our favorite example is how bad Source Tactical is compared to Camelbak Mil Spec series. Though almost all shops start selling Source Tactical, this to us shows that shops mostly jump on the hype train and don't test their products before committing to selling it. After all a shop's purpose it to help the customer acquire what they need and not just sell as much as possible. (I know some would argue that these days.)

[@kristofdemuynck7876]

awesome 😊

[@ReconBrothers]

Thanks, awesome of you to watch and comment! 😉

[@Fede_uyz]

What i see with these ultra light PCs is that many many many many people end up buying shoulder pads, plate backers, etc. For comfort, basically turning them in larger padded vests like agilite Kzeros

[@ReconBrothers]

Yeah, obviously this is not a product for everyone, we also still prefer the Spitfire MKII for our intended use. So when buying a plate carrier people need to understand what it was designed for and if that suits their requirements. Hence our video. 😁👍

[@lambrosstamos4494]

Definitely Spitfire. And what about the Vanguard combat set, is it any good?

[@ReconBrothers]

Spitfire FTW! 😁 The vanguard combat clothing (especially the pants) are very good in our opinion and we started using them after trying out so many brands. Basically for us there is no perfect solution yet, but the vanguard pants come really close to what we require from a pair of pants. The combat shirt we use rarely, but we've used it during airsoft events and did notice it makes us sweat way less than the Crye G3 combat shirts which cost at least double.

[@MrSwccguy]

Just another shite JPC clone

[@ReconBrothers]

That's one way to look at it. 😂 Do note that all companies clone what they like from each other, not a single one came up completely with the exact way plate carriers are today. In addition not a single company is capable of supplying the need so it is only good that more than just one company tries to come up with new ways and designs. Not to mention Direct Action is the go to brand in Europe, many forces use these products and we also sell it worldwide. So just a clone is a very limited view. 😁