Direct Link Update | Sync Cinema 4D and Unreal Engine 5 Projects in Real-Time

[@TheALiiEN]

Any one else crashing immediately when you try and do the sync in C4D?

[@effectatron]

Insert Gif of Gandalf "Don't TEMPT ME FODO!" No but I gotta check it out. Been messing with Kitbash in c4d vs Ue5. anyone have tips on the load time for ue5? takes ages to import vs c4d, but the end result is a lil better and simpler

[@BEST_LUL]

👍

[@JonathanWinbush]

🤙🏾

[@riplusmi]

Soo cool ! Is this working with all type of simulation ?

[@JonathanWinbush]

It's just released so haven't gotten to check everything yet but so far it's been solid

[@zemengwang3091]

I have a problem, no matter what I set the texture size in c4d import ue is 1024, why is that?

[@joseluismorancastro2705]

Hi Jonathan, you know it's impossible to install Cineware in Unreal. I've tried several ways according to your tutorials and I still can't. I'd appreciate it if you could guide me. Here's what I have. Regards.

[@JonathanWinbush]

I can't really show anymore except for the tutorials I've done showing how to install it but the only other thing I've been people not do is make sure everything is installed on the C drive. If you have your programs on other drives other than the C it tends to not work correctly.

Hey, thanks for the tut ! I have a problem, when I animate my focal length on c4d, it didn't bring it in unreal. My camera mouvement works but not the focal length. Any idea how to fix this ?

[@JonathanWinbush]

You have to change that in unreal

so if we animated the focal length in c4d with curves, with have do replicate it manually in unreal ? We cannot have an exact match yet ?@@JonathanWinbush

[@JonathanWinbush]

@ as of right now yea I haven't been able to ever get that to work always had to do it in ue

[@tristankdigital3903]

Does this work with all simulations?

[@JonathanWinbush]

You'd have to test it out some stuff is hit n miss

[@tristankdigital3903]

@@JonathanWinbush thank you for the reply 🙏🏾

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

Why does my material look totally different from what you have? All of the settings are completely different. Are you using basic C4d materials, or redshift? I don't have the global setting with the "use reflection color" button.

[@JonathanWinbush]

I dunno Im just using the basic redshift materials

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

@@JonathanWinbush are you using the new standard or the old material?

[@JonathanWinbush]

@marcus_ohreallyus it only works with the node system so not the expresso one

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

@@JonathanWinbush What I mean by that is are you using the material node (old) or the standard node (new) in your node material system? Not talking about the old shader graph, as I haven't used that for 2 years. I'm just trying to figure out why you get different options for materials in Unreal than I do. I ended up making my own Unreal materials, but it would be great if I could get the redshift materials to port over more accurately. I'm not expecting it to be a 1 to 1 translation, but I feel like it could be closer matched based on the example in your video. And I'm assuming procedural textures are not supported, but it looks like there's bump mapping on yours...so that must be a texture.

[@JonathanWinbush]

@@marcus_ohreallyus it only works with the newer node system the expresso system doesnt work its legacy at this point

[@Reivax1512]

How to fix Lightning?

[@JonathanWinbush]

How to fix what lighting?

[@Reivax1512]

@@JonathanWinbush If I have a scene already illuminated to my liking with lights, domes, stc... in redshift c4d, how can I make unreal respect all that? because right now unreal has its own sun sky lighting, postPV, atmosphere... etc.

[@JonathanWinbush]

oh they have it all laid out in their documentation support.maxon.net/hc/en-us/articles/4411492995730-Cineware-for-Unreal

[@johnbica]

Knowing that the future is real-time, why doesn't Maxon simply commit to improving Redshift RT or create a Resdshift PathTracing version like in Unreal? It would be much better to keep everything within C4D than to throw the file into C4D / Unreal. Imagine that you need to change the animation and you will need to cook everything again, apply the materials again, etc. I honestly don't understand how difficult it is for a company the size of Maxon. Blender has Evvee Next with Raytracing coming and Circles which is very fast, so if they can do it, why can't Maxon do it? I'm a C4D user, but if I have to use Unreal for real-time rendering, it's better to change my entire workflow to Unreal and do everything directly in it, discarding C4D altogether, especially with 'The Avalanche Project' arriving in Unreal. Does Maxon not have anyone competent to warn her about this?

[@JonathanWinbush]

Honestly I dont really see the issue let each company do what they are good at. Coming up in the industry I had to use XSI, 3D Max, After Effects, Modo, Real Flow, Cinema etc.... I've been taught to use whatever program you're using for it's strengths and we are in a age where the integration between programs is getting better and better so its easy to collab with your peers no matter the software.

[@Vduplenysh]

Hello! I did everything as in the video, installed the plugin in the marketplays folder, but cineware does not appear in plugins. Can you help please

[@gas_studio3654]

I'm having the same problem with the same thing happening to me. What can I do to...

[@dbcontre]

this is huge!!! thanks for always keeping up with the C4D to UE workflow

[@JonathanWinbush]

My pleasure! 🤙🏾

[@davidkerman1732]

Thanks for the tutorial! Is this really a "live link"? Can you change something in your C4d file and will it update in UE? I found its weird if you have to change anything. It looks like you need to re-import everything again - and it creates duplicates. Am i wrong here?

[@JonathanWinbush]

You should have to update in cinema for it to transfer back over but you shouldnt have to reimport each time

[@davidkerman1732]

@@JonathanWinbush cool thank you!

[@LennyTrees]

Winbush youre the man. I having an issue where if I build a room with extruded walls In C4D then i bring over the project using Cineware to UE5, the interior walls wont show. Its like once you extrude a wall, unreal doesnt read the polygons you extrude.

[@JonathanWinbush]

I've found the FBX way of working is more fool proof. If its static and not animated I'd recommend just exporting out as an fbx model

[@LennyTrees]

@@JonathanWinbush dude you’re %100 correct ! Life saver 🙏

[@JonathanWinbush]

@@LennyTrees yea cineware is still kind of funky but fbx never let me down yet

[@ManualMashups]

My materials aren't linking over. Im unsure what Im doing wrong. 😔

[@FUNBBTV]

Hi my friend, as always very good video :) just a question how long to render in UE this scene ? i guess very quicker than in C4d lol

[@JonathanWinbush]

Yea way faster

[@hawkwu123]

How about VRay or Redshift materials from C4D? It can work or not?

[@JonathanWinbush]

Just redshift and standard materials work

[@JonJagsNee]

stoked for this! Thanks for keeping me entertained and informed on a Friday evening :D

[@SAideRsaY]

I'm using UE 5.3.2 and C4D 2024.1.0 and 2023.1.2 and installed the live link several times but without success. Strangelly the Unreal Direct live link option isn't showing up in C4D's Extension and I was wondering if anyone could help me out on that.

[@JonathanWinbush]

It has to be installed on the c drive kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGOWnYCoo6mkqposi=vWxO8AmHdaRKsksg

[@azizakhmedov]

Extra usefull stuff. My workflow doesn't need octane or another renders anymore.

[@tristankdigital3903]

I have my project imported into unreal. But it’s a soft body and the soft body sim animation isn’t working on unreal.

[@JonathanWinbush]

You might have to bake the simulation first

[@marcelohennet4418]

It's also work on the c4d 2023 version? Or only on the studio 2024? Thanks!

[@JonathanWinbush]

I think just 2024

[@iPEMiC.]

Any news update about motion design from the UE 5.4 ?

[@JonathanWinbush]

As in what regard

[@LoganPinney]

Direct link to C4D more like direct link to DOPE TUTORIALS 😅 Thanks for always being a pioneer in the motion community Winbush

[@JonathanWinbush]

It's been getting better n better

[@scottdpeterstv]

This is wildly fun to play with! Simple C4D scenes with quick access to the Quixel Bridge is so great. Opens up a bunch of great possibilities for motion graphics and archviz projects. As always thank you for all you do Winbush!! Love it!

[@MonzotoOfficialChannel]

Thank you! wish Maya had something similar...

[@JonathanWinbush]

I don't use Maya at all but I've seen this live link for it kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3vImXyBfZd2opIsi=-S9Ye4Pth0uVtbQ8

[@MonzotoOfficialChannel]

My man! Thank you@@JonathanWinbush

[@thilinarupasinghe7968]

Definitely.

[@Oldyellowbrick]

Maxon are being very clever here by building the best bridge to what will likely be the future of rendering/motion graphics

[@cpistudio]

Will this work with Octane as well? Or is only redshift for now?

[@JonathanWinbush]

@@cpistudio only redshift

[@bloohaus8670]

IS this working for 5.4.2? Ive been having issues having unreal boot with the current plugin.

[@JonathanWinbush]

@@bloohaus8670 yup should still work. Is your cinema the latest?

[@bloohaus8670]

@@JonathanWinbush Yeah its all up to date, so its working on my version unreal/c4d. I have a versioned build of unreal I am working out of for a game studio. Its 5.4.2 but when I turn on the plug in and restart I get a error saying modules are missing / built in different engine and it lists a bunch of cineware files. Tells me to build through IDE...

[@davidkerman1732]

Awesome. Thank you. I saw that you brought over a redshift scene. Does it matter what the renderer is?

[@JonathanWinbush]

Yup it'll only work with Standard Materials and Redshift

[@riplusmi]

I'm stuck right now because I want to export cloth simulations from C4D to FBX, but it seems not to work. So I tried to import it in UE, but the FBX export did not worked because its a GC animation. Do you know how I could achieve this ? Thanks a lot, Emile

[@JonathanWinbush]

I'd do an alembic file for cloth. I have a few tutorials on using cineware if you want to try it that way

[@riplusmi]

@@JonathanWinbush This is what I thought, thank you for that !

[@lightning4201]

Amazing; absolutely great content as usual brother!

[@JonathanWinbush]

Much appreciated! 👊🏿🤙🏿

[@CoreyMcKinneyJr_CMJR]

But make this for BLENDER THO! Nvm ill just use Usd 👁️

[@JonathanWinbush]

Not sure why Blender artist always make these comments I got nothing against Blender I'm all about nude what's best for your workflow 🤙🏾

[@CoreyMcKinneyJr_CMJR]

@@JonathanWinbush wait did my comment come off rude? I was just sad Blender doesn’t have a live link feature 🫣

[@JonathanWinbush]

@@CoreyMcKinneyJr_CMJR My bad then I just always get attacked by Blender users and it's like I dont hate Blender at all in fact I think it's dope that it exist and can perform at a high level but for some reason Blender peeps always on the attack lol I appologize if that's not what you was doing 🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@CoreyMcKinneyJr_CMJR]

@@JonathanWinbush on the behalf of the Blender community.. i am sorry lol we are a passionate group forsure 🤣🙏🏽

[@JonathanWinbush]

All good just always hard to tell online if someone is sincere or trolling a lot of times but we are good my bro 👊🏿

[@patrickjesseman354]

Huge for workflow! Thanks for the quick breakdown!

[@JonathanWinbush]

Absolutely my man glad to see maxon keep pushing this plug-in

[@lumatrace]

Very exciting! Been waiting for the animation parameter to work!

[@JonathanWinbush]

Absolutely cause now its really a useful feature

[@DLVRYDRYVR]

JDubz on 🔥 with the vidz

[@JonathanWinbush]

Appreciate you homie 👊🏿

[@reyyy.115]

Another one! Thank you! 🔥🗣️

[@JonathanWinbush]

Yup Yup 👐🏿👊🏿

[@porterdesignandmotion]

This is a game changer. Thank you so much!

[@JonathanWinbush]

Absolutely 👊🏿

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

Got really into this over the weekend. As long as I don't push it too hard, it works amazingly well. The best part is the easy changes by just updating the live link.

[@thomaswindfeld728]

Thank you JW🎉!

[@JonathanWinbush]

Absolutely my friend 👊🏾

[@Rivalttt]

Nice!

[@JonathanWinbush]

Thanks!

[@micbab-vg2mu]

great update:)

[@JonathanWinbush]

Yup its keeps just getting better

[@jafetnoriega8623]

Hello, does this work with mograph and fields? ive tried before with text and a plane effector with a random field but UE allways crashed. thanks

[@JonathanWinbush]

I haven't tried with everything yet so I'm not sure the limitations still

[@JosephWraith]

Awesome!

[@JonathanWinbush]

😎

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

I haven't had opportunity to test it yet, but thanks for the heads up about this update. How close are the material settings translating from redshift to unreal? Are you getting SSS?

[@JonathanWinbush]

Yup SSS is there I had did a video on that update a few months back here

[@vladan.Poison]

how big was the file with all these clones ..., 400GB ?

[@JonathanWinbush]

The c4d file is like 200mb

[@virtuallyvisual]

I have a rigid body sim in a cloner in C4D, when imported all the rigid cloner items have keyframes, but don't move in the sequencer. Any ideas for how to get that to start moving? Im kind of confused how it has the keyframes but doesnt show the cloner items as moving.

[@JonathanWinbush]

Did you cache your scene in Cinema first before sending over?

[@virtuallyvisual]

@@JonathanWinbush I did; for some reason the problem was happening when i opened a game blank starter level instead of the movie film level you showed. When i switched to a film level project it imported correctly.

[@JonathanWinbush]

@@virtuallyvisual oh yea if you use the game templates it doesnt activate all the plugins you'd need if you was only using it for rendering / cinematics thats why I always use the broadcast template

[@jawbone1218]

@@JonathanWinbush Can I migrate my game level project to a new film template or do start fiddling all the plugins?

[@JonathanWinbush]

@@jawbone1218 might be better off finding the plugins you need because who knows what might break with a migration

[@吴易程]

Hi, have you tried to use the Polygon FX feature, he doesn't seem to be supported by this update!

[@JonathanWinbush]

I haven't but their documentation will say whats not supported that's still being worked on

[@吴易程]

I think I have a problem, I want to import Polygon FX effects into UE, but the latest direct link doesn't support it either, so I chose datasmith from UE5.3, it can import Polygon FX geometry cache, but it will cause GPU crash in DX12! The animation works normally under DX11, but I can't use RT anymore. Could you help me? I would be very grateful!@@JonathanWinbush

[@esp4372]

Does this work for 5.4?

[@JonathanWinbush]

I don't think yet since 5.4 just released

[@esp4372]

@@JonathanWinbush Rodger that. Do you have any insight on when it will be available? Thanks for all the help…as always

[@JonathanWinbush]

Unfortunately I dont have any insider info on that but hopefully soon!