Director for Health Protection told to avoid Hancock because she "patronised" him | Covid Inquiry UK

Professor Yvonne Doyle (Former Medical Director and Director for Health Protection, Public Health England)
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[@ceefar10]

Appreciate you guys so much for continually putting this stuff out to the public, thank you.

[@SuzanneO707]

👍👍.

[@marythorpe928]

These facts are just confirming what we already knew, that these corrupt Tories do not care about us, 'the majority'.. The culled the elderly, litterley, culled the elderly.. How shameful...

[@davewatson309]

I have to say Ms Doyle you seem like a sincere, honest and competent person. Too good for this lot. Good luck to you

[@deang5622]

So Hancock throws his toys out of the pram, like a baby, because he doesn't like what a professor says, causing communication between them at a critical time when it is most needed to be cut back. I hope this inquiry really asks challenging questions of him and doesn't let him off the hook.

[@SaxonSuccess]

Because he so certainly should be on a hook...

[@robambrose4199]

I hope andrew bridgen sues that weasel handcock for as much as possible, especially it's really all going to the vaccine injured.

[@davie12]

Of course she was desperately trying to save lives, where appears to have been trying to let the bodies pile high whilst making a lot of money for his mates and having an extramarital affair, with a member of staff...illegally because of lockdown. Fine figure of an upstanding Rt Hon gentleman. What a joke!

[@rosieHolliday5887]

I've worked with adult male children like Hancock before. It's all about their inflated egos. Like having to walk on eggshells around a brat

[@kychpal6236]

Me too, it gets in the way of an efficient job getting done.

[@zetectic7968]

The political message was more important than health advise & the truth.

[@marionlarkin1161]

That’s the kernel of it. That, among many other things.

[@deang5622]

From Handcock's perspective, it would appear so.

[@robambrose4199]

Deliberately killing people is a political message. That's one of way of looking at it.

[@johnmcfarlane748]

shocking and disgracefull information coming out here , but sadly not suprising. There has to be criminal proceedings to follow this inquiry.

[@tonysheerness2427]

I hope so.

[@deang5622]

Criminal proceedings for what exactly? Being an incompetent official? Show me the law where that is a criminal offence?

[@tonysheerness2427]

Mass killings.@@deang5622

[@therealrobertbirchall]

​@@deang5622criminal negligence

[@MELLYBOY58]

Anyone seen him about in public lately ???? I doubt it ✌️✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@fionascott9230-r5f]

I believe every word PROFESSOR Doyle is saying. A highly educated and professional person. What chance did she have of sharing her expertise with this den of rogues and egotistical halfwits?

[@carlospagi]

This is a lady of integrity. Thanks you for sharing.

[@stuartlawson7977]

These ministers should be in jail

[@edwardferry8247]

Having worked for several Fortune 100 companies, this sounds utterly normal. Honesty and factual presentations will see you identified as a loose canon or told to not attend certain meetings with certain figures.

[@AquariusGate]

You sound like an apologist for the incompetent.

[@billybobthornton9668]

@justinlowe5628 Uhhh, I don't see where he's condoned that, just said it's the reality of what happens....which it is 🤷

[@sonpacho]

I'm from the USA. So, basically everyone is a coward? I don't know how else to put it. After watching this video, first the woman testifying annoyed me because it didn't seem like she wanted to speak. The guy asked her to be specific and she continued with, in my opinion, vague under statements. Also, it bothers me that so many people _in power_ are easily...punked. Too often, it seems like the people who make it to positions like this woman are sycophants. Then I read your comment...I guess you can never get to her position if you were 'that _guy._' It seems like the default opinion of _people in power_ should be...not good. To be clear, I am NOT referring to UK politicians solely.

[@alanwhiplington5504]

Unfortunately, he is also correct. The truth is that incompetence is spread far and wide and there's nothing that managers dislike more than competence - they find it threatening.@@AquariusGate

[@deang5622]

​​@@AquariusGateWrong interpretation. He is just stating facts, not supporting it. You might want to re-evaluate how you interpret things. You have got to be very careful when synthesising things which are not actually written. Just read what is written.

[@johnavery3941]

Too be fair she was honest here and she knows her career in the civil service is over now but it is all coming out

[@mickeyfrancismcdaid]

Most of what she was endeavouring to enlighten them with, was in one ear and out the other. Everything else? Flying straight over their thick heads.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

Nothing in between their ears, that's why.

[@glyn6170]

This is incredible. You don't become a Professor by being an idiot, clueless or without standing in your profession. Yet her knowledge, advice and guidence is dismissed be a wannabe SAS Castaway, red hot lover Gruber lookalike, as though she's a Yr7 Combined Science pupil. How arrogant does it get? If you want to know why so many people died, this is where!

[@jimbo6693]

Agreed but there wasn't any more people died than normal the government just manipulated the figures to keep the fear factor going..

[@jrobs1133]

Professors aren't immune to being idiots.

[@glyn6170]

@@jrobs1133 but being an idiot is a prerequisite to be a SoS in this Con Government.

[@jrobs1133]

@@glyn6170 Will soon have a Labour government whose leader is just as much of an idiot as anyone in the Conservatives.

[@SuzanneO707]

Well done, think you got the jist of it.👍

[@jimbo6693]

Listening to all of these people talking about Matt Hancock he really does need serious jail time ASAP ...

[@timfulwell8472]

Honest, capable, tough. And no doubt many other excellent qualities. Superb professional.

[@UTubeSL]

She certainly is. There were a number of senior people in PHE that were very tough and very knowledgeable.

[@tomricketts7821]

No wonder the politicians hated her she’s everything they are not

[@david-pb4bi]

She is a coward who stood back and let people die to save her job.

[@SuzanneO707]

@@tomricketts7821 👍

[@Logans3Run]

​@@david-pb4bi She states; "I understood and complied". You're right, she's a coward 👍

[@garyt123]

Both Hancock and Raab would probably feel patronised by a bright, sparkling, _stone,_ or a _sprightly_ earthworm.

[@robertjones8644]

And no one will be sent to jail .Hancock alone on the evidence should be jailed for life with no parole

[@sjcap4233]

Never forget and never forgive, no matter which party it is.

[@moonshine9902]

Tories have been in power for the last 13years. Explain why the opposition parties should never be forgiven.

[@penelopehewlett9532]

but there won't be - they'll move to other powerful ministerial, or corporate positions, and continue to re-write history in their own favour.

[@jrobs1133]

@@moonshine9902 "The Labour leader, Sir Keir Starmer, has urged Boris Johnson to impose a new national lockdown in England within the next 24 hours to tackle the “out of control” coronavirus." - January 2021 and "The lockdown regulations passed by 516 votes to 38, with all the major parties, including both the Government and the Labour opposition, voting in favour."

[@stan1050]

The Uni-party always gets in.

[@user-bu9nb8wr6e]

Just unbelievable that his ego got in the way of our dealing with a national crisis. That is criminal in itself. We so need to have mental health assessments of people that want to stand as MPs, so that this type of person never gets into positions of power ever again. Im flabbergasted by this, I suppose I should not be, but my God who are we electing these days.

[@user-gf6nr4tt6l]

psychopathic egocentric, criminals

[@kychpal6236]

A member of my family worked as a pilot. The air industry brought in something called Cockpit Resource Management. It was to limit any issues of ego, so that in an emergency the procedure, to save all on board and get the plane in the ground, was not obstructed by personalities. I think many businesses could learn from it.

[@slightlyconfused876]

It becomes more clear every day that the cabinet was like a public school with silly little boys and their egos having free reign to cause mayhem. These disclosures are not good adverts for the ethos prevailing at Eton and the like.

[@Tarot_Time_with_Belle]

So glad these are all speaking out now! But so wish they’d done so when the country knew we were being lied to.

[@Ian-mj4pt]

Alot knew what they are but sadly voted them in but are shocked when it can't be swept under the rug . But even a I told you muppets so won't suffice as people lost their lives and it would just be wrong . People knew what him and his lackeys are but chose yhem in 2019 because ge wax a laugh . Not laughing now ate they 😢

[@BA-sf4uw]

Yvonne Foyle, thank you for telling the truth and warning us ❤

[@The-old-tech-joiner]

The charade continues.

[@realhorrorshow8547]

It's bad enough that these people were incompetent and knew it. Now we learn that they regard other people's competence as an affront.

[@mrstevecox7]

Appalling behaviour by ministers

[@mickfaragher7897]

Two things tories hate: experts and the truth based on facts.

[@SomeRandomBod]

The worst part in all this is these clowns will be back in power again at some point, it may be a decade but they’ll be back to finish the job thatcher started.

[@JT-si6bl]

Dont. There is more than hope here...

[@Anmeteor9663]

Thatchers work is never done until we are serfs again

[@nicholawright317]

Thatcher was a strong leader not led by the wef, the who ot the un both parties today are,and both have weak leaders

[@gardenroom66]

@@Anmeteor9663we all did well under her.

[@stephenetridge2584]

When cold hard scientific facts and logic meet public school boy hubris and insecurity. We need much better ways to select the talent that governs our country rather than the colour of one’s tie and how much one puffs out one’s chest out.

[@Arya-cf7vu]

Yes!!! Couldn't agree more

[@jonharris1654]

Yeah I have had this at work - don't say this or raise that as it may upset 'big boss' like f%^k the big boss if they cannot accept the truth then that is their problem not anyone else.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

Well said. People need to grow a pair, ffs !

[@TheWeightOutdoors]

This won’t be surprising to anyone who’s worked in a public service / civil service body. From the top the agenda is set and it is who fits that agenda, whose answers go with that agenda. It is then those people who rise through the ranks and provide “advice and guidance” to ministers. It isn’t just the politicians it’s civil / public servants too. Lying, bullsh*tting, yes men. From a former management accountant in the civil service who has now quit accountancy and the civil service.

[@Lucky-wt6fg]

So sad and shameful…..

[@gardenroom66]

Same as teaching, if your face fits.

[@fatbelly27]

I rem er, in those early months of 2020, how difficult it was to get information about the situation se were facing. It was at this time I started watching Dr John Campbell as an honest and well informed broker. It is clear that from very early on, Hancock had his own agenda.

[@kychpal6236]

I have worked in an number of industries and have observed that egos often get in the way of a good job being achieved.

[@AntonyBall-hm4jo]

British management is now at an all-time low - promoted above their abilities and underhand bullying tactics returning to the workplace if you don't tow the line.

[@weediestbroom]

I'm shocked! Shocked! Well not that shocked.

[@billb7876]

This is all just pure theatre nothing will be done and meanwhile, what are these nwo criminals up to now?

[@parrotshootist3004]

It's to 'learn lessons'. Whatever that means.

[@juliemelbourne1338]

The timing of this inquiry strongly suggests that the ground is being prepared to justify and usher in the WHO's pandemic treaty, to keep us all safe and protected!😳💉😨

[@joannemoore64]

Only one real V.

[@puttypiss]

The whole handling of the pandemic was engulfed in chaos and incompetence. That has SURELY cost tens of thousands of lives.

[@chocolatesugar4434]

Everyone needs to subscribe!!!! This is one of the most honest news sources in the UK! 🙌🏾

[@jackspring7709]

All these people in charge - yet none of them had anything to do with any of this: it just sort of happened all around them while they were powerless to do anything as heads of their own administrations.

[@SuzanneO707]

Sounds like another day at the office, or any other workplace

[@jackspring7709]

@@SuzanneO707 Not in any of the places I worked in. Well there was one place - and they were all routed out and fired after the trouble they had caused.

[@SuzanneO707]

@@jackspring7709 There's hope.

[@deang5622]

​​@@jackspring7709The problem in this situation is there were seriously incompetent people in very senior jobs, and no single person has the power to fire the PM! So you can't address the shortcoming of the incompetent people, whereas you can in industry.

[@jackspring7709]

@@deang5622 True. They are a genuinely chilling lot, these pampered civil servants. Instead of occupying a corner in an accountants office they are making decisions for the country and causing disaster every single time.

[@barbaraaimson2100]

Little boys playing grown up, - badly

[@SuzanneO707]

Public school. Pfff. 🙄

[@kychpal6236]

Many were abandoned a 7 to boarding school, so stuck as little boys.

[@carlpeberdy9086]

They have to go, GE can't be soon enough!

[@jake751]

If only we had a decent opposition

[@deang5622]

They did go! Johnson got kicked out, so did Handcock. It is not the same government. Or do you not understand that?

[@carlpeberdy9086]

@@deang5622 It is the same government -led by the Conservative Party - the PM and some cabinet ministers may have changed, but it is still the same government - how can you not understand that?

[@methods3110]

Won’t help. Just make matters worse.

[@carlpeberdy9086]

@@methods3110How can anyone be worse than this bunch of privileged, self-entitled, incompetent narcissists!

[@vongoethe111]

Thin-skinned Hancock.

[@mauricemason4648]

All the women were brilliant and all the men F Pigs.

[@PerryUK]

As 'Director for Health Protection', wasn't her priority health protection & not avoiding upsetting Matt Hancock?

[@deang5622]

If you upset people, especially immature people like Handcock, then you damage the relationship between you and them and that fundamentally impacts the performance of both parties to do their jobs. But you didn't think of this?

[@PerryUK]

@@deang5622 You don't pander to immaturity in professional health protection roles. How is having NO working relationship, better than having a strained relationship where you fulfil the role your being paid for?

[@Anmeteor9663]

Whilst agree with your principle, she also must have realised that if she had not done as advised then she would have been removed from the role. Replaced with a less "confrontational " yes person to sooth Hancocks sensitivity. I guess dhe made the judgement that it was better to stay on the inside and do the best she could in the circumstances. Ministers don't usually hang around for long so probably the best option at the time.

[@kennethlumsden877]

Disgraceful behaviour by Hancock, shameful.

[@mikeharvey9811]

This is so important, the whole truth must come out, this must never be allowed to happen again. We need a new honest relationship between the people and our elected government. Liars should be called out and punished. Barb

[@arighttobeheard]

Sick to the back teeth of corrupt politicians, corrupt businesses, corrupt media. Willing to support honest politicians, honest businesses and honest media. Please step forward, you have my full support.

[@robertmarsh3588]

All these people failed us sadly.

[@jstone247]

In Australia, many of our Chief Medical Officers and experienced Professors were trolled and threatened online after appearing in media. Their recommendations were usually accepted by the various Premiers and Prime Minister, but the libertarian cultists became quite intimidating. A few female epidemiologists were threatened with sexual assault, and at least two withdrew from public commentary regarding Covid 19 responses.

[@sisuguillam5109]

Same here in Germany. Medical experts, civil servants, and politicians faced so much hate from people who refused to face the facts in the matter. These people called themselves Querdenker (people who think outside of the box) - but all they did was thinkinking about what New conspiracy theory to spout next.

[@jillybe1873]

This was the only distancing they did.

[@Arya-cf7vu]

😂😂

[@freespeechforever]

It tells you a lot - this professor seems extremely credible to me and she is put in an awkward position by Hancock..... I compared her - rightly or wrongly - with the lady called Helen who 'upset Dominic Cummings, Helen may well have been right in what she was driving at but she looked to me to ge acting the part. Often said there's no smoke without fire so Helen had to have been some sort of probem to others as, indeed, was Hancock.

[@Lindatiger71]

Helen Mcnamara is the woman Cummings was referring to. She kept asking important questions that didn't fit in with the governments narrative, like the fate of domestic violence victims in lockdown.

[@gohumberto]

Matt Hancock was hopeless!! Who knew???

[@sisuguillam5109]

One probably does patronise Hancock simply by breathing while being educated (and not being male and white).

[@brianeduardo1234]

An Irish woman with integrity

[@katejacobs5491]

Not unusual!

[@kychpal6236]

Yes telling the truth, isn't that a wonderful concept to embrace.

[@supernoodles91]

So yet more misogyny shown from a minister, this time Wanksock. Unbelievable.

[@bobwheeler5246]

Why did she keep saying secretary of state rather than Hancock?

[@alanwhiplington5504]

To depersonalise, and emphasise that she herself was fulfilling a formal role in government and following the processes that involves.

[@simmosimmo100]

Who wants to remember that name? I can't wait to see his lying face being questioned.

[@marionlarkin1161]

I decided not to describe what I think about the secretary of state’s visage.

[@methods3110]

@@alanwhiplington5504It’s her ‘formal role’ that has brought her into disrepute instead of standing up to the obscene filth of a creature. Remember Nuremberg. Orders are no excuse.

[@chuckmoney1688]

Must have been hard not patronising Hancock, even a 4 year old child could patronise that prat.

[@cncit]

Shocking!

[@keepitreal1547]

The country wants these criminals behind bars.

[@tctill]

That is truly shocking

[@pippipster6767]

Just wondering … is Hancock the most hated man in Britain?

[@fellabay]

unbelievable...... Hancock should be jailed

[@abbottstephen82]

Big question is what will the result of this be? Will there be criminal charges or fines ?

[@lordvadertheleftie9703]

Matt Hancock need to go to prison

[@peterebel7899]

He was elected by Brits.

[@lordvadertheleftie9703]

@@peterebel7899 yep, and he should now face the British Judicial system

[@peterebel7899]

@@lordvadertheleftie9703 Just those elected him as their representative are the real responsible ....

[@veronicaasemota976]

Is this just going to go away at the of the inquiry like the Hillsborough inquiry ,where no one faced justice !

[@billylion1967]

I love the self-critical analysis that it may have been her presentation or the manner in which she spoke to Hancock IF only Tory Govt ministers managed to have some humble humanity and self-doubt and were capable of seeking out to listen to intellectually world-wise experts to govern better rather than being mad crazy egotistical idealogues, PLEASE do no vote TORY

[@pPod1231]

It won’t surprise me if nothing happens from this

[@xscotsguards4022]

I just do what im told so i can keep my job

[@david-pb4bi]

Yes she was a coward who was prepared to let people die to keep her pathetic job, she is more culpable than the rest of them. Makes Thatcher seem like a saint.

[@deang5622]

​​@@david-pb4biWhere is your evidence for that libellous claim? It seems to me having watched this short excerpt that the problem lies with Hancock and not her.

[@david-pb4bi]

@@deang5622 She did nothing when she knew it was wrong? Everybody knows Hancock is an idiot so she should have stood her ground. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

[@lordvadertheleftie9703]

​@deang5622 this is what the Tory supporters do - lie and deflect

[@kychpal6236]

No Hancock is an ego maniac, credit where it's due@@david-pb4bi

[@TR4zest]

Hancock is coming over really badly through all these revelations.

[@keithnewton8981]

My covid symptoms came out on 28 Feb 2020 so working back my infection was around 23 Feb. Gp,at this point had not been given a list of symptoms to look for, GP and community health works where not aware of the stomach cramps diarrhoea head pain ,chills fever musvle pain weakness may or msy not run temperature patiant may report feeling vehetc when I confront my GP practise there own concern was I running a temperature. When I told the GP of the list of symotoms the WHO had released in mid January 2020 I was told the public health England had not released such information and until such information was released running a temperature was the only indicator. My Gp read my information from WHO. But was unable to get test done at the time it was mid April before blood screening confirmed I had had COVID-19. I had sent this list from who to public health England in January but got zero,responce to my emails it was like no one was functioning. I been involved in previous swine flu and bird flu planning at local government level writing my departments procedure. But now retired I did not have the same access, plus the civil health emergency department in local government had been ended in 2014 as part of the Tory austerity programme. Councils and public health did not have the people. . By May 2020 I was contacted by my former employer to ask did I still have copies of the emergency planning as everyone who had been involved was gone. The computer servers had been change documents lost. What a joke .

[@anngray8224]

So will these people be charged with misleading the public and human rights abuses

[@simmysimmy3748]

Criminal Proceedings to follow = NONE

[@chrissilver7719]

Honesty 😮 put out to grass for telling the truth . Giving people a realistic timeframe with the virus 😢and any possible vaccine development. What was the problem ?? It upset Matt Hancock the secretary of state of the Grim Reaper.

[@estherpage2107]

This is all very well. But how will they pay? Will there be prosecutions ,or is this just an exercise.

[@rmc5278]

Wasting tax payers money

[@andredecaires2]

Smh. What incompetence.

[@321bytor]

Tory Party - if you vote for them you deserve all you get

[@Pugev]

IN THE JAIL !!!!! NO COMENT

[@aleccap5946]

A complete waste of taxpayers money "again" the people want justice not informing us what the anti British media should have done. We demand Bojo and his gang including that unelected clown do jail time. But this ? What do we not alreay know ? Jail time for Bojo and Co

[@Spendarellaa]

Omg 😳

[@Ian-mj4pt]

The ones at the top were more interested in their egos and perceived affronts by those with a bit of advice being right

[@colinsixhitter3303]

If you don't tell them what they want to hear you are out

[@johnpoile1451]

It's how dictatorships work, anything else and you are being disloyal.

[@keithknight1686]

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but it seems the plot here is to throw Hancock under the bus. He is alone in guilt here?

[@keithparlour2686]

As usuall,speak out against them and your shut out

[@jamescaley9942]

Another mogadon.

[@bobwheeler5246]

Hancock works for WEF, he was trying to implement them.

[@bigpants6121]

Handcock works for himself.

[@honved1]

Grow up

[@brianlillis5652]

​@@honved1wake up

[@sisuguillam5109]

What are you on about?

[@sisuguillam5109]

​@@brianlillis5652to the fact that Bob is not making sense and needs to brush up on his grammar?

[@nickywellman594]

These politicians behave like spoilt insecure celebrities, not being able to accept criticism, arrogant and ego driven. Unanswerable to anyone, this inquiry as interesting as it is exposes them for what they are but as always it will result in no punishment. Again at taxpayers expense.

[@anoyakashi8775]

HANDCOCK NEED TO BE SERVED IN PRISON FOR ALL THOSE HE HAD SUSPICIOUSLY KILLED.

[@MrVaug]

She was a patsy. the Secretary of state for health can deny having knowledge at any time due to lack of updated reports.

[@steves7013]

Hancock should be on an island........... Alcatraz!

[@katiemiaana]

Poor little male ego.

[@alanjames5475]

Any punishment that follows on from this and their should be. Should apply to those who supported all of this. I fear for the country for their are to many greedy right wing people in our country

[@grumpyoldman1618]

What I would be interested to know was this information leaked to the devolved governments and how they reacted. . . . . .

[@ardakolimsky7107]

😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

[@davidhayes4814]

I am slightly surprised at all the figure pointing. I guess that it is inevitable, human nature being what it is, but it does seem like a lot of weasels in a sack.

[@SuzanneO707]

Even weasels get on together better.

[@deang5622]

Finger or figure?

[@SuzanneO707]

@@deang5622

[@wmorris189]

You are slightly surprised at an enquiry finding evidence of incompetence and worse on an industrial scale aka in your world “finger pointing”.

[@SuzanneO707]

@@wmorris189 Give him a break. The comment was well meant.

[@deal2live]

Revenge of the civil service!

[@kychpal6236]

The truth

[@chrisanderson3664]

MIDAZOLAM: NICE NG 163 was the centralised "pandemic" protocol questions need answering

[@markfrankham1]

The guy must sleep with one eye open...

[@BlobThe99]

This enquiry is a joke. A waste of money to bolster the covid narrative. Pure theatre.

[@TheValeyard92]

🤡

[@sisuguillam5109]

You okay?

[@manofbeard]

These ministers deserve some serious prison time. Our elderly were clearly hung out to die. Bastards.

[@kychpal6236]

Yes lock down for them.

[@romangasior4046]

👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[@lokischildren8714]

The Tories were and still criminal