What a beautifully executed documentary. Thank you for sharing John and Greg’s story. May they rest in peace.
@jasonhanks82583 жыл бұрын
You said executed..tee hee
@jaygubula88833 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhanks8258 🤭
@algimante20978 ай бұрын
It is, but is's sad that justice was not served. Being gay was morally wrong to him, but not murder. Make it makes sense.
@rumihafez82693 жыл бұрын
I have never witnessed such a personal and tragic story provided with such honesty, sensitivity and tolerance , realizing the various indirect victims besides his brother and not making judgements on the circumstances of the various tragic acts. It seems that this brother lives the spirit of tolerance, care and making no judgement as his father was preaching them but not practicing them.
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@jbdbean2423 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 Blaming the victim is nothing unusual, your efforts to do the same here are as tired and disgusting as the rest. It's all too common for monstrous internet trolls and homophobic corrupt politicians to make false accusations that so easily appeal to the hate and fear inside people, especially the feeble-minded, in order to deflect attention and responsibility from the actual perpetrators. The depths of chauvinism is boundless in its defense of evil.
@skadiwarrior20532 жыл бұрын
@@jbdbean242 It's all to easy too to find nastiness going on within the circles of important people ;politicians, celebrities and the like, when people brave enough dig deep. When I heard the circumstances of the murder I couldn't help recall the revelations about so called charity workers, including the Red Cross, sexually exploiting youngsters who were victims of a natural disaster in Haiti. This is not blaming the victim, this is being alert to what people with power over others can do and how it can be covered up, sometimes for decades.
@paulakatonivualiku-externa86582 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 It is Apete
@debbieprokop94014 жыл бұрын
The hardest thing to do in life, is be ourselves. Sometimes, it can be dangerous.
@SigrunHT3 жыл бұрын
Possibly Apete was a subconscious homosexual himself and unable to live with his feelings. Judgemental people often are that way because they're afraid that they themselves will be judged, so they sell themselves as being the opposite of how they feel inside. Shakespeare's "methinks thou protests too much" pretty much says it all.
@KittyPee613 жыл бұрын
Yes. Absolutely. And add dash of religious fervour. ✌️
@noongourfain3 жыл бұрын
reminds me of the Andrew Cunanan story.
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
Did you interview him.. did you know apete..?? Do you know what John Scott was doing behind close doors to young men.. if you don't know how news travels in fiji, then shut the fuk up
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 nasty person and troll
@noongourfain2 жыл бұрын
@Floyd1504 Right Cunanan wasn't religious. They weren't very much alike but it still reminds me of the other murders
@gent84123 жыл бұрын
This is surreal. What a documentary. Good job and sorry to the victims.
@kyleburrows61213 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear even his friend saying "you know but he never brought that life into our life" as if they were friends with him but he couldn't be his true self. Sad. Very sad.
@JessCorey3 жыл бұрын
Nah just compartmentalized....I have friends that I'm very close too and consider my best friends and I'm a Christian.... they aren't and we have a lot of other things in common but I don't cast them away it dose make me a little sad, but I know people are all diffrent.
@hrmtty3 жыл бұрын
"Indigenous Fijians were generally comfortable with colonial rule" says the white man. I wonder if any indigenous Fijians who actually lived under colonial rule would have chosen that for themselves.
@NannupTiger3 жыл бұрын
You are right, the Fijian people were cannibals then, they want that back...
@tarzus77103 жыл бұрын
@@NannupTiger Fijians weren't cannibals stupid! There was only chiefs who were cannibals. They only ate to embarrass their enemy. Any enemy killed was cooked as a reminder to the people and other enemies
@SigrunHT3 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised just how many people were cannibalistic throughout history, as @tas tiger says, there were other reasons for ingesting human flesh than the food aspect.
@RawOlympia3 жыл бұрын
They sure chose the hotel though! 28:46 - and let the commies shamble it up ~ oy
@fionagregory93763 жыл бұрын
@@tarzus7710 oh that makes it all right then.
@priscamolotsi4 жыл бұрын
I almost ignored this documentary. Thank goodness I watched it. I highly recommend it, not that I liked the outcome, but it is truly a wonderful documentary, music and all.
@elainevankat53534 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!! (so, glad I watched too!).
@Allegra44423 жыл бұрын
What a heartbreaking story......very well presented.
@lunagoodhart54893 жыл бұрын
Sad but absolutely brilliant documentary. I learnt so much.
@breabg8283 жыл бұрын
@Luna Goodhart So well stated: And my sentiments exactly 🙂👍❤
@gent84123 жыл бұрын
Couldn't say it better Luna
@splifstar853 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the most prominent lesson was that of European (English in this case) enslavers superiority complex..
@williamtrujillo84693 жыл бұрын
You may want to learnt how to use proper grammar. 😆😆😆
@gukelordan8523 жыл бұрын
Luna learnt so much . I learned Luna can’t spell
@dorothyruh74634 жыл бұрын
This was very profound on so very many levels. Living in the U.S. a week or so after an attempted coup, my fascination with the colonials in spite of hating their hubris and exploitation of others, my growing disdain for the religion in which I was inculcated, and frustration with the hypocracy of those who think they have an absolute right to dictate how others live , this film documentary touched on all of these.
@thresagraham81813 жыл бұрын
Your comment is insightful and profound, in its own way, if only we would all question the things we are taught from a young age, history is what it is, humanity and kindness and learning from society’s past mistakes, is what might lead us all on a path the loving understanding relationship that all human beings should share.....ideally 🌺🌸👍✌️
@cynthiarichardson81893 жыл бұрын
I read you comment and want to say you took the words out of my mouth and thank you.
@whyme79963 жыл бұрын
@@thresagraham8181 I think you misspelled shallow, ignorant, and historically inaccurate.
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@jbdbean2423 жыл бұрын
Your comment does not reflect the documentary with the least bit of accuracy. Take off your biased glasses, check yourself, and watch it again. However, if you are unable in the least to critically assess that which is fed to you, perhaps the effort would just be a waste.
@evon04062 жыл бұрын
This was extremely heartbreaking to watch. I was just a kid when John and Greg died and was ignorant of the facts of this case. Today I just learnt where they were murdered. I go past it everyday on my way to work and didn't even know it....
@AviationNut4 жыл бұрын
I am sorry but I had to laugh when the guy said " I though it was a fu*k buddy gone wrong". He just said it so casually like a fuc*k buddy gone wrong is a regular occurrence in that area.😆
@chickstar69duplicity354 жыл бұрын
Yeah, cracked me up too! I was like did he just say that?! 🤣🤣
@RedMoonsEcho4 жыл бұрын
I thought I’d heard it wrong to. I had to rewind it then had a good laugh
@uluinacevajosh17694 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...
@korro58703 жыл бұрын
And he is one of Fiji’s few Harvard Law graduates & a great one too though
@lisag21403 жыл бұрын
OMG... I did the exact same thing... And turned the CC on 2 make sure I heard that right... Plus I did just have 1 beer... LMAO...😂😂😂
@michelleorlando37023 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry the the 2 beautiful souls who were brutally murdered by a psychopath who used God and "so called morals" as an excuse to steal their last breath. This documentary was really well done.
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
That Two beautiful soul you speak of drug raped that psychopath... know your story before you start pointing the finger.
@michelleorlando37023 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 I know your story. Have a good day and try not to troll.
@jenbo24903 жыл бұрын
I really didn't expect this excellent documentary when I clicked on this. A good example of colonial missionary preaching and moralising coming back to bite you. Thanks a lot for uploading this , I learnt a lot. Btw an very worthy book which have many tales of the South Pacific in the colonial period is the Complete works of Jack London.
@Jade-sc7ne3 жыл бұрын
What a thought-provoking documentary conducted with respect, dignity, and tolerance. I, like most people, felt the outcome was appalling and unsatisfactory. Apete, should have served a very very long time in prison, the justice system has failed Scott's family. May Greg and John rest in peace.
@birdyelke7754 жыл бұрын
Whenever i came across those stories, it's irritated me, how those bastards invaded the world and charmingly belittle our ancestors, abusing their gratitude and oppressed them, divided the sub and take advantage over the native.
@RedMoonsEcho4 жыл бұрын
The Indian people is who your talking about right? The scouts didn’t bother nobody.
@Yam7214 жыл бұрын
@@RedMoonsEcho relations are good between the itaukei and indian, its just these politicians and nationalists fucking the country.
@jbdbean2423 жыл бұрын
You didn't actually watch this documentary did you. Pay attention. Your own vile blind hatred and propaganda filled brain has twisted your meager ability to think.
@birdyelke7753 жыл бұрын
@@jbdbean242 Poor soul..u sound bitter yourself!!! But life goes on, kiddo.
@squidjames7735 Жыл бұрын
Mickey Mann … sorry that you are ignorant. Should have stayed in school.
@sheelahales47383 жыл бұрын
He gets a plea of insanity, justice was not done here. What a brilliant documentary and one on KZbin where you get a conclusion and not cut off. RIP John Scott and Greg.
@monkeyman69W3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Great documentary. Sad too.
@ronelllambert20403 жыл бұрын
What an Excellent documentary!!!!
@hannahriley80854 жыл бұрын
I have to say I don't like the way a lot of these white rich people are speaking about the fiji people . A lot of them still sound racist , sexist and elitist
@AnnabelleJARankin4 жыл бұрын
They are so different - clash of value systems as much as anything.
@ydcee31234 жыл бұрын
Hannah, is that really a surprise? Colonizers always feel that way about the indigenous people.
@hannahriley80854 жыл бұрын
@@ydcee3123 it's just shocking to still hear people speak like that in this day and age although the documentary does look pretty old
@AnnabelleJARankin4 жыл бұрын
@@ydcee3123 Some barbaric practices have been stopped by colonisers - there are good sides. Occupation of foreign land is as old as history itself and helped develop healthy populations and minimise recessive genes.
@RedMoonsEcho4 жыл бұрын
All white people arent this way but I do find a lot of Europeans are still this way about everyone. People blame the USA for this shot when Europe was and still is the cause of most shot that’s ever gone wrong or happened in the world.
@xyzamarian44044 жыл бұрын
I believe that justice was not served to John and Greg... Sad 😔😔😔 I learned many in this documentary, thanks.
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
Justice??... maybe you should know the real story before saying they deserve justice.. what goes around will come back around..
@invertedaura19863 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 Hey it's the Fijian Troll. How you been man?
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 and you know the real story 😂😂😂
@pranilsharmainvestment3883 Жыл бұрын
@@johnboys4697 what's the real story, racism and discrimination of by Fijian people got them killed
@ninascarpa14603 жыл бұрын
So sad. Good documentary.Ty.
@ChurchOfCiiku3 жыл бұрын
So ridiculous to hear the narrator say that the Fijians were ok with colonial rule. Easy for a white person to say I guess.
@megsmith62463 жыл бұрын
Right? People are not generally happy to be colonized.
@burstingwizard9753 жыл бұрын
Colonization has a lot of benefits for the colony in question. They get technology, education and military protection from a more advanced culture (if the colonizer wasn't more advanced than the other country wouldn't have become their colony). In material terms it makes complete sense that people would accept colonization. The reason people typically dispute colonial claims are for non-material reasons, typically philosophical or cultural in nature
@jbdbean2423 жыл бұрын
@ChurchofCiiku - Racist drivel. Prior to colonialism was total conquer, annihilation and subjugation, such as Genghis Khan, the Ottoman Empire, and similar tribal warfare anywhere on the planet. Colonialism was no such thing, and allowed for some relative autonomy and symbiosis. Despite conflict and power struggles, it also was not a product of invasion, as were the previous examples given, and also the expansions by invasion of the more recent totalitarian Communist and fascist states of the USSR and (defeated) Nazis and Imperialist Japan.
@squidjames7735 Жыл бұрын
Western narrative
@squidjames7735 Жыл бұрын
Busting gizzard… lol. USA and uk are laughing stocks now boi
@ShayLikeButter4 жыл бұрын
Who are the ones that have been pushing religion on indigenous people, in every corner of the earth, since the beginning of time? These people didn't have any religions before they were colonized. Sons are the ones that will pay for the sins of their father.
@billy6pack8873 жыл бұрын
Sounds like A quote from the bible.
@naelyneurkopfen97413 жыл бұрын
You sound like an ignorant bigot.
@squidjames7735 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@GR-hy3tf3 жыл бұрын
Learned a few new things here. Tragic and very interesting at the same time. I hope the people of this beautiful island are living a better life without the enforced colonialism. Thank you for sharing.
@hannahriley80854 жыл бұрын
I.m only 15 minutes in and am so glad I decided to watch it , it's really interesting
@lunagoodhart54893 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm only 12 minutes in and very glad I decided to watch.
@feeq60014 жыл бұрын
It’s obviously a premeditated murder and someone got away with murder. R.I.P John.
@markcjohn64313 жыл бұрын
Hello feeq
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@arietavaka52203 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 That's what they will never dig deeper into.
@lanacampbell-moore66864 жыл бұрын
Thank You😊
@stephaniemiksell4193 жыл бұрын
He’s a murderer who should have been found guilty. John and Greg’s deaths were horrific. There is no excuse. Apete could get counseling behind a maximum security wall. 😢❤️🇺🇸
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
You know nothing about what this two were doing in fiji, and what they did to apete.. fiji is a small place, we know what happens in the community.. do some digging before you point the finger
@invertedaura19863 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 Wow. Didn't know Fiji had trolls as well.
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 3rd world country and backwards
@squidjames7735 Жыл бұрын
Fulp sicktion … said the troll
@caribbeanman3 жыл бұрын
The Fijian people have such gentle faces and are such out spoken people... I think I'd love to visit there some day
@jbdbean2423 жыл бұрын
If this documentary is any representation it is a hate-filled xenophobic and homophobic country. Shame to see human hatred and corruption so prevalent in such a beautiful place.
@southlondonbanter18823 жыл бұрын
@@jbdbean242 Come on mate each and every country has it's own flaws , it's not like every country is perfect . Besides it happened 2 decades ago and that's all in the past .
@sitcomsTV3 жыл бұрын
44:59 IN that momment your life changes forever. It's like you have been BRANDED. Is like you have a mark on your skin in a secret place that very few people will ever see" - best definition of how a family is affected for the rest o their lives after having a loved one murdered.
@Jeanne902753 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary.
@jennifermorris79864 жыл бұрын
The consequences of colonialism and the subjugation of sovereign nations by Christianity in the name of 'civilisation' are apparent here. There can be no doubt that every colonised nation in the world, if left to their own devices instead, would now be much better off. That being said, the murder of John Scott and Greg Scrivener is tragic, as are all atrocities committed in the name of 'God'. "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil-that takes religion." -- Steven Weinberg
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which should have been explored was the mention of other boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as a child by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apete would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's not uncommon for sexual predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming evangelical Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@KaLeCaFe3 жыл бұрын
Amazing that the idea of the “noble savage” continues to persist. To suggest that if those nations were left to their own devices they would be much better off today is arrant nonsense.
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@jennifermorris79863 жыл бұрын
@@KaLeCaFe History does not reveal its alternatives, but the suggestion that nations are 'savage' without the 'civlising' efforts of colonial powers is extremely condescending.
@jennifermorris79863 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 This was implied as subtext, yes. Or perhaps inferred. Christianity is not blameless though.
@kirstencon3 жыл бұрын
This is awful I couldn’t hurt anyone no matter what they like in life their choice their life let them live it how they want to! Be part of helping keep people safe like the guy said look for what you have in common
@RedMoonsEcho4 жыл бұрын
The insanity plea is bullshit the murdered ones don’t get their life back so why should Apete be comfortable. Apete came back to Fuji to kill that couple and that what’s he did he knew what he did
@jomama51863 жыл бұрын
In the US it would have been considered a hate crime. I think in knowing the culture there, John was in danger living openly and he had to know that. Regardless, what a terrible thing.
@AussieBrit3 жыл бұрын
Yeah..." Apete wouldn't hurt a fly"...unless, of course, the fly just happened to be gay.
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
Unless that fly drug raped him..
@AussieBrit3 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 😅😉🤣
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@mosheshamuel1014 you know first hand???
@nadiazidane67943 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@kaijumecha57664 жыл бұрын
Gay or not, it’s a human life. If you takes someone”s life, you gotta to pay the price. I guess he is gonna pray for God’s forgiveness after using God as scapegoat...
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 you don’t stop … did you know them???
@ChyeahWill2 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 such a wild accusation with no proof of evidence. Go to hell
@bobjolly77954 жыл бұрын
That was a very tragic case on every level.....I don’t feel justice was done
@MarzannaMorana4 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal documentary. I definately understand Figi now. The Scott's had such a privileged and beautiful lifestyle. How interesting. ✌
@icuerrnnurse29983 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Apete was angry at the couple because he felt they took advantage of him. Just a thought.
@hazel88823 жыл бұрын
I think they did and discard him after, sad story!
@jbdbean2423 жыл бұрын
Pure bs, your victim blaming for this horror is sickening. This was pure blind hatred with a mix of mental illness, he knew what he was doing. He was raised in a homophobic country and steeped in hatred for the Indian community, and when he saw John go to their aid in the violent coup he snapped. This was a vicious and brutal hate crime, and he was let off easy because of race, homophobia and celebrity, a popular local who was a big star athlete. It's a devastating but tired old story no matter what part of the planet you're on.
@hazel88823 жыл бұрын
@@jbdbean242 keep lying to yourself
@AussieBrit3 жыл бұрын
@@jbdbean242 Hear, hear.
@icuerrnnurse29983 жыл бұрын
@@jbdbean242 I’ve checked out a few of your comments to others. It appears to me that you are the one full of hatred and anger. You should seek help immediately, sir.
@davidmayhew80834 жыл бұрын
This is the elephant in the room. This is why gay people must fight for their rights in court against the forces of religious evil. It amazes me that their were no psychiatrists allowed to speak in this doc. This is about shadow issues on the part of the killer. He kills the thing he wants but cannot accept. This is how religion is complicit in the murders. And the officials and police chief are guilty of protecting this pathetic man. I hope that all gay foreigners see this and boycott Fiji. As for gays living there, I pity you having to suffer such an evil society.
@hannahriley80854 жыл бұрын
What a amazing documentary
@bigmanoutdoors88454 жыл бұрын
@z you are an idiot. Leave people alone all you have put on here is one and two letter words.
@nursedaniel723 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to all in this story Because I am all in this story. Human
@freddieking48463 жыл бұрын
Brilliant doc thanks
@MrsPedroPascal3 жыл бұрын
How can you ask for forgiveness if you don't regret anything?
@pranilsharmainvestment3883 Жыл бұрын
Heart breaking document, lovers have rights
@Koroodetto3 жыл бұрын
The murder is gay and he couldn't accept himself, therefore killed these people.
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
Well said !!
@sitcomsTV3 жыл бұрын
By the end of the documentary they given up on putting subtitles on the indigenan's. This fact was BODERING ME. WHY did someone choosed to subtitle only them when all of them talk in perfect english? The murderer's mother speaks perfectly clear. Then some brit would talk and you could barely undertand... but there was no subtitles.
@teivunisa6943 ай бұрын
True
@herekittenkitty13 жыл бұрын
Evidently he missed the “ love one another as I have loved you” memo
@tinazimike58133 жыл бұрын
As a Christian myself in my own understanding of the bible. It's up to the creator of us all to judge us all & as for us all to continue loving and caring for one another.. we must all remember this one thing that when "GOD SENTS THE SUN AND THE RAIN " he doesn't send it upon normal people only he sents it upon everyone to all his creations...may those two R.I.P. and when the judgement day comes let God judge us all...
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@makearunat Жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 Where's your source on this claim that there was sexual abuse?
@yanifree114 Жыл бұрын
@@makearunat read the comments. Here’s one and perhaps you should watch again. “Such a remarkable documentary, narrated with such honesty, tolerance and without judgement. I say this because its difficult to ignore what the producers are clearly not telling you about the underlying motive for this dastardly crime. Legally, I think justice was not served to the two victims (RIP) and he should have been charged with premeditated murder. If motive had been the element for the crime of murder (which it is not) then I agree with the prosecutor that the verdict was overwhelmingly satisfactory. I applaud the producers, and particularly Owen, for courageously exploring all sides of this tragic story which has left me with the 'fuckbuddy gone wrong' scenario, and as such left me feeling compassionate towards Apete for the trauma he had tried to suppress but that was triggered when he watched the lone figure of John in his Red Cross vest and being lauded as an angel. Anyone who has understood someone struggling to survive a traumatic past of being groomed as an impressionable teenager for sex and idolizing your abuser and then being rejected will know what a volatile cocktail it stirs in someone once they realize the shame and guilt of what they allowed. Tragic outcome for all involved”
@robertklotz93194 жыл бұрын
Courts regularly fall for the plot of insanity.
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@houseofsolomon24404 жыл бұрын
"Rich white people who had a big house on the hill... " 😒
@pjhaze4 жыл бұрын
So they should be violently murdered. Finish the thought racist pos
@houseofsolomon24404 жыл бұрын
@@pjhaze IKR!! I was repeating a quote from the documentary! It's awful. What racist b***shi*!
@teeceedee3 жыл бұрын
hes a gay rights activist if you read . and he didnt say the white people on the hill , in my opinion, without any violent or sarcastic tone . its weird if you perceive it that way . and i am hungarian white .
@shaaddhillon38193 жыл бұрын
So it be ok if they were rich black people who had rhe big house?
@NannupTiger3 жыл бұрын
@@shaaddhillon3819 - more than likely - YES!
@44contact4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this documentary. Thanks
@oldfan19634 жыл бұрын
I guess we'll never know how Fijians felt about homosexuality before Grandfather "Reverend" Scott came to christianize them....
@onzz1004 жыл бұрын
Hahahah that’s sooo true
@jaygubula88833 жыл бұрын
Such a remarkable documentary, narrated with such honesty, tolerance and without judgement. I say this because its difficult to ignore what the producers are clearly not telling you about the underlying motive for this dastardly crime. Legally, I think justice was not served to the two victims (RIP) and he should have been charged with premeditated murder. If motive had been the element for the crime of murder (which it is not) then I agree with the prosecutor that the verdict was overwhelmingly satisfactory. I applaud the producers, and particularly Owen, for courageously exploring all sides of this tragic story which has left me with the 'fuckbuddy gone wrong' scenario, and as such left me feeling compassionate towards Apete for the trauma he had tried to suppress but that was triggered when he watched the lone figure of John in his Red Cross vest and being lauded as an angel. Anyone who has understood someone struggling to survive a traumatic past of being groomed as an impressionable teenager for sex and idolizing your abuser and then being rejected will know what a volatile cocktail it stirs in someone once they realize the shame and guilt of what they allowed. Tragic outcome for all involved.
@annamartinez83254 жыл бұрын
He was Quilty 100% all the reasons about religion only excuses to kill the guys, I know what the bible says about been gay but it also gives you the right to make your own decisions, period 😡😡😡
@MsAnabel10004 жыл бұрын
Oh poor little rich kids “taunted” by their father . I sense a lot of racial undertones and I the Scott family are racist I feel sorry for the FIJI people
@cassandraharper16324 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on this once, they minimize their father's exploitation of Fijian women and "He was just one of the lads" really just obnoxious. Oh, but we were always taught to respect the people. Really?
@RedMoonsEcho4 жыл бұрын
Are you all blind? Being gay don’t make you racist they are telling a story about the past when racism was a thing. Many things happened back then . Theirs nothing wrong with those people. Even the elder of the Fiji people said the scouts were good people and kept good relations. The local people would have said they were racist if they were. Being gay and white don’t make you racist.
@cassandraharper16324 жыл бұрын
@@RedMoonsEcho The behavior of their father is disgusting. The father is not gay. The brother is glorifying their past in Fiji which under colonial rule discriminated against indigenous people. To be there with a paternal view of helping people who can help themselves is racist in an of itself
@vickypayne43403 жыл бұрын
I think it was the family friend that said he was one of the lads NOT his son
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
🙄🙄🙄
@dutton26664 жыл бұрын
12 min in and I already feel sick with the amount of facts that are probably held back because they don't fit this storys narrative u can tell what's the Scott's are through and through just by where they are in the world at what time
@chickstar69duplicity354 жыл бұрын
Enlighten me pls @Dutton
@onzz1004 жыл бұрын
@@chickstar69duplicity35 colonizers that abused the Fijian people
@thresagraham81813 жыл бұрын
History is unchangeable, our learning from history and our respect for one another , should be the way forward. Leave the hate behind, educate going forward✌️
@onzz1003 жыл бұрын
@@thresagraham8181 they ruined our culture, not only Fijians but black people all over the world, so please don’t come out here talking about respect as if your people didn’t respect blacks back in the day and even still now!
@MegaSmk3 жыл бұрын
@@onzz100 it's time to stop playing the victim card. looking forward is good advice. remaining in the past is part of the problem. accept that it's the way of the world and the way of human society. your people would have done the same to others, given the chance. but we can change that - IF you chose to look forward instead of living in the past. focus on solutions, not on problems.
@Monk-eee3 жыл бұрын
1:09:36 he is all drugged up. The way his body is slowed down and that glaring smile...MURDERER. He was poud of what he did, bragged about it and gets to stay high for the rest of his life....yup thats justice!!!
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 💩
@hassanAhmed-su5vb3 жыл бұрын
Very sad, killing is a great sin!! The other thing is that, whenever we go to other places, we must respect their culture all the time we are there.
@charlesosborne34472 жыл бұрын
Isa thinking of you Mr & Mrs Kaisau in my prayers ❤
@wexfordgirl13 жыл бұрын
Tragic story but Owen was absolutely right about the irony. Christianity forced upon the people and it literally came back to haunt the descendants. Wow.
@jbdbean2423 жыл бұрын
You misinterpreted that badly. How many times did the locals say that Christianity ended cannibalism and related violence on the island. That violence was still there, certainly in Apete, and despite all that his family had done for the country - especially the victim(s) themselves - that it would be used to destroy his descendant.
@keisharaumati-isaacs10252 жыл бұрын
Wow this was so interesting my deepest condolences to the Scott family. This was a tragedy!
@braeutchen413 жыл бұрын
I think the Indian lady was right.......MANY many of the fiji men are involved in behind closed doors affairs w one another.....but John and Greg were living out in the open......and that infuriated these people who Are doing it, yes, but trying to keep it secret......this behind closed doors behavior is happening all over the world. Not just on fiji.......I myself would NEVER go there on purpose. 😐
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@corneliuscornia44363 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 Spot on mate.
@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes Жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114No buddy. Native Fijians hate homosexuality. It is in their culture.
@deborahcaleo5584 жыл бұрын
I am a Pacific Islander - although I have been reared in a more real world like 2020 - I was born in 1952 AND DO STILL REMEMBER AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN THE ISLANDS - OUR WAY OF LIFE WAS GOD-FAMILY-COMMUNITY- I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THIS INOCENT FIJIAN PERSON GROWING UP ONE WAY IN FAITH AND THEN WITNESSING THAT VERY VIOLATION BEING COMMITTED IN HIS VILLAGE AND HOME - THIS NATIVE FELT THAT HE HAD TO STOP THE EVIL OF THEIR ACTIONS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH - I FEEL MORE FOR FIJI THAN THE GUIDANCE THEY WERE BEING SHOWN BY THE OTHER PEOPLE - AS IN BRITAIN ETC. ETC. ETC.
@undyne96674 жыл бұрын
That doesn't justify what he did, shame on you. Unbelievable lady.
@onzz1004 жыл бұрын
@@undyne9667 maybe not you or to us but to him it did because that’s what he was taught. To Apete it was morally wrong and he had to do something about it!
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 😂
@music-underground354 жыл бұрын
What’s the music at the beginning
@MINNIE-t3u4 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late but it's traditional song-singing from here!♡
@Peartree253 жыл бұрын
Even if u don't agree with homosexuality every one has the right to live there life as they chose u can't go around killing or attacking people nobody out here is judge and jury ..
@Monk-eee3 жыл бұрын
1:07:50 AEW YOU KIDDING ME? NOT GUILTY BECAUSE OF INSANITY. Apete believed in the old testament the beliefs he had where clearly underlined in his bible. So that makes him insane, because his religion told him it wasnt right. the bible also states thou shalt NOT KILL. He wasnt insane he was psycotic and a MURDERER, who got off... Dispicable .
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@erpthompsonqueen91303 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jleigh48863 жыл бұрын
I guess his lifestyle was viewed as disrespectful of their culture.
@beckyfarley603 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with the life style, but it is not my place to judge anyone. Why wouldn't it be a double funeral, why not lay them to rest side by side?
@hannahriley80854 жыл бұрын
35.28 surely that street name being shown at that time was no mistake lol 🤓
@mzliz12493 жыл бұрын
Great documentary and very sad. I didn’t realize Fiji was such a backwards country. Justice was not done in this case.
@yehbuddy10053 жыл бұрын
So here you are judging people by throwing a blanket over the whole of Fiji. You need to have a look in the mirror.
@marcoemerson9933 жыл бұрын
@@yehbuddy1005 Fiji remains a backward country. It's a third world country that has been uplifted by the European settlers, then the Indians and from now, the Chinese. The natives only want to drink and fight.
@nuthinleicadane3 жыл бұрын
@@marcoemerson993 John deserved what he got. Period.
@marcoemerson9933 жыл бұрын
@@nuthinleicadane John deserved what he got?? You must be one sick bstd to say that
@nuthinleicadane3 жыл бұрын
@@marcoemerson993 If you must know, John himself is a sick bastard. Hiding behind the veil of the Red Cross when he is in fact the devil's protege..
@arrrgonot78013 жыл бұрын
Fiji was a paradise before brits came along and totally destroyed it.
@liamjohnson12192 жыл бұрын
And just what empire would be a better colonizer than Britain?
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
Oh I’m sure that was true 😂😂
@arrrgonot78012 жыл бұрын
@FijianNationalist🇫🇯 whats wrong wit dat?
@arrrgonot78012 жыл бұрын
@FijianNationalist🇫🇯 actually i was thinking before they took it over. But have it your way
@aglabert59134 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you give a Bible to a repressed gay
@yanifree1143 жыл бұрын
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@yanifree114 get a life
@herekittenkitty13 жыл бұрын
Bullshit..you own your choices..you make them..you walk that path. The minute your path interferes with another being..you’ve made a mistake. Your emotional baggage is not for the world to carry..evolve.
@annabellasarafaraone41473 жыл бұрын
Apete could not tolerate seeing reflections of Himself!!!, being probably a latent homosexual!!
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
Agreed !
@lordwinderemere3 жыл бұрын
Very sad outcome .Justice was not done at all .
@tessapjohn3 жыл бұрын
Sad. Each man is answerable for his deeds before God.
@squidjames7735 Жыл бұрын
Had affairs … held in high esteem, one of the lads. Oh how we all miss the misogynistic days 😹
@cynthiatolman3263 жыл бұрын
The choral voices are too loud for me, especiallywhen they're along with the narration.They distracted me while I was listening to the whole. Murder is a sin, period. If every murder done for personal religious belief is acceptable, there would be no terrorist murderers.
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
It's nothing to do with religion.. get your facts right.. the community knows what John did apete and many other young man, but I agree murder wasn't the path to take.. but who can mend a broken spirit, put yourself in APete's shoes.. what would you have done if you had found out that you had been drugged raped by someone who had been gifting you in the guise of charity for the past 5+years ??.
@LaLA4410003 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Missionary work! Yeh to Christianity!....... Great Result Did he not read? the message about; Only God can pass judgement. And; Thou shallt not Kill... Tragic Story*
@romeomarks8344 Жыл бұрын
It’s very upsetting to watch rip to the 2 amazing souls shame on Fiji government and some of its people
@sitcomsTV3 жыл бұрын
Was Apete insane? NO. He was as insane as many people walking around: they have a wrong concept of right or wrong and go around judging others when it's none of their business to do so. He knew what he was going to do - he planned it and he enjoyed it. Excusing himself in the words he underlined on a book. "The book" said that the blood would be on the head of the one's getting murdered. HOW CONVINIENT!!! Such a nice excuse to have... He was not insane. "You shouldn't not kill" - He knew this much! Maybe he was a hiden GAY... LORD! Isn't it convinent to blame one simple man for all that is going on with you and around you? Is so typical of cowards.
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
If you don't know the true story of John Scott... dont comment.. if you knew what that man did to apete and other young men then you probably understand how a man could kill another man...
@plm85503 жыл бұрын
Apete is an animal, pure & simple.
@lilaydreos8723 жыл бұрын
Animals are not evil 😕
@G-Star-Raw3 жыл бұрын
Animal? Get educated!!!! Animals have souls Humans don't!!
@sheelahales47383 жыл бұрын
Please stop calling evil humans animals.
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
True !!
@johnboys46972 жыл бұрын
@@G-Star-Raw 😂🙄🙄🙄
@kathleenjohnston31293 жыл бұрын
I loved this documentary
@elainecalabro25193 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@heartattackflatline3 жыл бұрын
So... You what Fuji to feel sorry for colonizer? That's what his grandfather was. Condolence for the generation that had to suffer- truly But can you honestly say granddad was not apart of that over privilege click.
@mosheshamuel10143 жыл бұрын
Tell the truth about what this two did...you think we dont know the truth.. They were molesting them.. thats the only reason this case was buried after the sentencing and no further investigation and that's when the whole of fiji truly understood that money talks.. dont forget we fijians never forget and some of us hold a grudge unless you ask for forgiveness
@squidjames7735 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, we may never know why he killed …
@Bettinasisrg3 жыл бұрын
This was very sad.
@kenyanroots3 жыл бұрын
When he said Fijians were comfortable with colonial rule. I knew bullshit.
@SetaWaisavu Жыл бұрын
Fijian History! Between the lines I learnt a lot. Very sad
@eddysimba68293 жыл бұрын
The story dont add to me. Why was he so angry at these two. There is something missing.
@corneliuscornia44363 жыл бұрын
I think they used him sexually and then got bored of him and showed him the door.
@eddysimba68293 жыл бұрын
@@corneliuscornia4436 me too. I think the guy Who said is fuck buddy gone wrong is right.
@corneliuscornia44363 жыл бұрын
@@eddysimba6829 Murder is either,passion or money or both.
@eddysimba68293 жыл бұрын
@@corneliuscornia4436 facts
@pedroguerrero38623 жыл бұрын
@@corneliuscornia4436 not necessary, for hate crimes like this there is also the possibility of jealousy . There a few cases where people attack someone because he is jealous of something, being open about their sexuality or being able to have a relationship.
@NuffinEdited4 жыл бұрын
More to this story,, I think Scott and his buddy did something to Apete. That Apete couldn't live with.John wasn't no saint he left his wife and son for a man.
@Lovis.Tulitikku4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you are full of prejudice. You can think whatever you want, but without evidence your comment is gossip, nothing more. And your thought that John is a bad, because he left his wife for a man shows homophobic tendencies.
@NuffinEdited4 жыл бұрын
@@Lovis.Tulitikku WHATEVER both are now dead. And Apete should be released. BTW YCKMA I have an opiion. John paid in the end. Read the bible you may learn something
@korro58703 жыл бұрын
Yes they did - he was a victim from a very young age.