Dirty Empath : Infidelity

[@PaperMario64]

HG, I am speechless. It’s as if you’ve had a birds eye view of my life since meeting the narcissist. I am the empath with the streak and weak point in marriage. Situations fell into place and my narcissist walked right in. I was not aware of what he was or what I am. I have always been against infidelity and even “innocent” flirting. But as my friend once told me, never say never because life will make a liar out of you. If you think it can’t happen to you, think again. Pay heed to what HG says. If you recognize empathic or codependent traits in yourself, never think you are immune or bulletproof to the manipulations of narcissists.

[@tomadalove5852]

It affects you even if you are not involved, just meeting one is enough to turn you into a headspin.

[@1hiyasweetie]

Same here.

[@barleighsargent1123]

Hmmm...that’s the narcissist’s fault? 👀👀

[@dandydan999]

@@barleighsargent1123 yes, just as it is the drug dealers fault for pushing and selling. Each party have their role and culpability

[@HellBelle666]

​@@barleighsargent1123you are obviously not an Empath and have never been sucked in by a narcissist 🙄

[@ivanaveltmeyer6373]

I have cheated on my ex narc too, I have been subjected to sexual withdrawal for literally years ( not days and weeks) , I didn’t know what I’m or he was but I was psychologically tortured behind closed doors and when I wanted to leave he wouldn’t let me , my ex was openly going to see strippers and prostitutes , no sex ( happened gradually) and along comes a narcissist, start to love bomb you and there it is! I have done it only couple of times but I didn’t feel remorseful or guilty but I kept it secret from him. I don’t think that if I would experience a healthy relationship that I would do it,but I actually never experienced a healthy relationship in my life, so I’m quite happy being single now and have my recovery from all narcissists. Good luck everyone!

[@jacqueshowell5931]

We empaths are no angels we just mere mortals and we fail to be perfect...Ive been unfaithful ( felt like shit) conciously did it when uncunciously felt devaluated and the love bomb began to diminish...this helped to combat my ex narc and put em in shame when they tried to hurt me being unfaithful to me something I can sense right away when the change of behaviour starts...

[@Whiskey_Jane]

I've been involved in this for 5 years thank you for your advice and knowledge after all this wasted time I'm going to change my phone number and move on with my own life. Thank you again, I so so needed to hear this finally.

[@bonniemurray143]

HG I love you!!!! You save my life!!! This is my life to a tee! I can’t bear lying to my hub, so he gives me freedom to do what I need to do, I love him so much!! I had so much fun w my narc for almost two years, but suddenly he wanted me to leave my husband. Never gonna happen! I went along tho, just to keep getting the good sex. Big mistake! I never could have imagined how ugly it could get. I never told my narc that my husband knew everything, due to his paranoia. He really seemed to enjoy me “sneaking” out to meet him...he said he was “taking ownership” of me 🤣in the end, when I finally told him I would never leave my husband for him, he sent my hub screenshots of texts/pic/videos! When my narc realized that I was in fact lying to HIM, it did not go over well!! How DARE I lie to HIM?! He still is driving past my house(I see it on my security camera) and sits outside my work after almost a year of NC! If not for you HG, I would have jumped in the back of his car already, I wouldn’t be able to resist the Hoover!! I am a dirty empath and I do miss my narc, but I’m ok now!! He would only try to destroy me if I went back🙏🙏💕😘😘😘

[@user-jr2gb9ou8b]

Mann I been on HG videos 3 weeks STRAIGHT... I don't know which I'm addicted to more...Hg or the narc ?😟 and I swear.. each video HITS...AT the exact same time I'm going through whichever video I pick... #HowSway #TheIrony #OkIGetIt Mannn.... this video is right on time And so damn true...its like you literally had been following me around for the last 5-6 mos....EACH VIDEO IS TRUE TO THE TEE. ... EACH 1

[@PammyBlogsBeauty]

OMG! So accurate. Dumbfounded. Please, please, do more videos...write a book...more info on the Dirty Empath and the categories/classification of Empaths. This is groundbreaking!!!! Shockingly accurate

[@LeilaJane]

This is explained so well. 100% spot on about the narcissists ‘self care’ being at the expense of others. That right there sums up so much! Eerily familiar. I also came to this conclusion before I had heard your material 😂. :That the narcissists don’t have that ‘’other side’’ of awareness of how to keep the narcissistic side in check! Us empaths, because we see the narcissistic traits in ourselves as well, we often assume that the narcissistic individuals ‘must have that other empathic side too’… what we don’t realise is that the other side we are looking for in them doesn’t exist! And we kind of feel awkward / sympathetic for the narcissist because we see ourselves in them.

[@sumbals]

Brilliant work HG so impressed ,, good to know the in depth analysis so accurate thanks

[@lejci38]

I have to sip a glass of wine to prepare myself for this one...

[@MsMegancarter]

I’m just starting to learn about this particular one and it rings so true to me. Wish it wasn’t 11am because I need that drink too 🤣

[@gloriagloria716]

Why not let us say that dirty narcissists mop up unhappy married empaths and lead them into misery?

[@HBomb1983]

I need more on the dirty Empath …

[@MsMegancarter]

“Megan I’m warning you, if you don’t respond I will tell everybody. I need you. Call me. Or I will make the calls you are forcing me to make,” damn. This material is teaching me more than I have learned in my 33 years. People should learn this in school. Learn to be better people, even if coming from a psychopath 😲 the beautiful thing about this channel is the clarity that comes with it. We can become better people which is so weird that a psychopath is helping that happen. You, HG, are making the world a better place, not that you care. I’m going to look for a video on the dirty empath with anger streak - I have the selfish streak for sure but I think an ex of mine (abusive but so loving and not - I don’t believe - a narc) would be so helpful to have that to learn from. Also, I’d like to know about what to do. I’ve been aware and working on my faults for a long time, I’m not stuck with what I am, am I? I can work on it. I think I have gotten better. A man I was so in love with for years, finally wanted to be with me but I really liked his girlfriend so I said no. That made me feel like I can be a better person but It scares me to have a dirty streak. Yuk. Like a shit stain

[@joannemcevoy4232]

The empath gets burned twice over in the end. No winning there.

[@tomadalove5852]

My head is spinning...can't keep up with it all..........

[@pippipster6767]

It’s quite simple. The narcissist targets the empath. The narcissist doesn’t suffer because the narcissist is a narcissist. The empath does suffer because the empath is an empath.

[@kendrariedelrealestateprof2932]

Never admitted this, but this is me. At the beginning of my marriage I cheated to rebel and at the end of my marriage I did it so I could stay. I just wasn't getting anything anymore and I was just done but I didn't want to leave yet. Until my kids graduated.

[@captainotto]

The things we subject ourselves to for our children.. Only to find that all we did was enable the abuse of ourselves and our kids.

[@karenmaher4928]

Wow I resisted it was difficult but I did narc wasn't worth it he still obsessed this is so brilliant thanks for info hg

[@karlkabza2362]

You described my experience with precision.

[@funnymela]

This is really quite brilliant

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Well it is from me after all.

[@runwiththewind3281]

HG, Thank you for helping me understand me

[@elainnajones9107]

HG, can one say the narcissist KNOWS that by continually deploying these evil tactics on the victim that the victims defences are slowly taken out so that the narcissistic traits can come out and take hold...??. For instance, the narc has an affair, them begins attacking the intimate partner accusing her/him of having an affair.... then acting this out by snooping, staring as if searching and scanning your person, making something out of nothing, like the intimate partner is going out say shopping and is wearing a new shirt, this automatically means to the narc all sorts of ridiculous assumptions which he readily spats out, invading privacy and the like...all the while knowing they are the guilty party? This is done on a smaller scale by mid rangers and lessers as well.... for instance, lets say I am looking for a box. The narc knows that they threw it away previously without cause or need as I stated prior that I wanted the box. So I ask the narc have you seen the box? No, what box? The box I said I was saving, please dont throw it out. No, i have no idea what box but I will help you look for it.... everything with them is a game a power play to rob a person of fuel and to help usher in the creature. Reminds me of Invasion of the Body Snatchers...

[@fatimalopes7290]

This is totally my story

[@PromehteuSlobodan]

If I understood you correctly it sound like that in some twisted way Empaths are looking for Narcissist in order to fulfill their purpose. And as Narcissist has their cold empathy that in a also twisted way Empaths has narcisistic traits but in a way that narcissist has empathy. But as far as I can see narcissist will always go with more or less same agenda for all appliances, love bombing, devaluation and discharge, while Empaths can find someone who will appreciate their empathy for long long time. And second is advice for you, but lavalier microphone for better audio sometimes you turn your head away or you just move away from microphone so sound level drops which can be heard, the second is check subtitles that are automatically generated by YT you can do it and correct it in YT manager under the subtitles. I anyways listen to you with subtitles so that I don't miss some word and I find a lot mistakes in subtitles. Sometime it's required full attention while your speech speed increases. And sometimes you sound like Agent Smith from the Marix which I find cool. Good video!

[@hissyfitz7890]

You can change the audio speed yourself on YT videos. Look at the 3 vertical dots next to the cc icon in top right corner of the video you are watching.

[@joseeejosee1]

Hg you didn’t address what happens when we cheat on the narcissist in revenge for how they treat us, and they find out and enrage. Never heard from him since then 🙄

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Oh yes I did, see "Cheating on the Narcissist". HG is always ahead of you, Josefina.

[@DarkCentaur24]

@@hgtudor-theultra 🤣🤣🤣

[@sundaylass6828]

You really should also do voice over work H.G. Pure velvet.

[@hgtudor-theultra]

I agree.

[@sundaylass6828]

Naturally.

[@thenewmoon2339]

Definitely

[@Spiritual_Gangsta]

Or law inforcement 👁

[@nickyxXxXxXx]

I'd love to hear an audio version of Good Omens by H.G....

[@BBK83]

Yep. Except my ex husband wasn't a good person all around. A worse husband and a pretend father. I left a lower mid range for a possible upper mid range or lesser greater. But I love being alone!

[@tracym2246]

So does this clarify why the empath feels like they were the Narcissist HG?

[@butterflymustfly_1232]

Pretty much.

[@Spiritual_Gangsta]

I went tru this and now history repeats w/ baby mama. It's exactly what she doing now . Trying to dance 💃 with the NarcoPath . I tried waring her for the sake of my son. She still has the" old norm" mind set of having a sancho on the side . Till the Narc discards her. No self reflection or inner wrk just jump into a already established relationship. I did my part i tried warning her about doing the inner wrk. Now my son is the one who has to deal with her ignorance of a decision.

[@iamenergy9310]

Jump to business before she does, this society is Gynocentric and you will be left duped again by the hands of the law

[@gb2556]

Thank you to make me understand other sides! Regardless of what I was and what I went through I was never unfaithful. Could never be! I guess I am an ET empath! 😂actually - wait - perspective! I was very unfaithful to myself and my own believes. 🤭😦

[@artmeacademywiththesaltyse9537]

Brilliant, but I didn’t see myself in this work. I’d consider myself a dirty empath due to a mid-level narc w that started devaluation 3 years into marriage. This devaluation occurred at the beginning of the www which increased opportunity to cheat and cheat I did. Was the only way to survive and keep the facade whilst I tried to figure out what was happing. 30 yrs of journaling helped in the end. Thank you HG. Splendid insight.

[@HatBilly2008]

Give us a list 10 things narcissist love, 10 things narcissist hate from empathic people. And do your best to explain why and what’s happening so that our emotional thinking mines can understand it. Mr. awesome

[@chelseamiracle128]

This was me (not my finest moment) but I was in love with the narc and he just wanted to sleep with me and that's it. He was what I thought was the "one who got away." Really I abandoned him before he could pull his cycle years prior. He almost never commits to anyone. My relationship he intruded upon went down in flames, I took the fall, I was not happy (pretty sure my ex fiancé was a mid range cerebral narc and the tempting narc I cheated with a greater somatic) I decided to start dating someone else (normal man who loves me.) He was extremely upset, tried to manipulate me by saying he wanted to make me his girlfriend when before he was adamant he did not want me. It ended because I went supernova on him as he was punishing me. I'm a dirty empath and a super, I think I was not an IPPS because I was maybe too hard to control.

[@rosea9797]

Hmmm......do you do the Windsor, or Double-Windsor?

[@Kiymbah]

This is exactly what my narcissist does. Triangulation with women who are married or otherwise already in a relationship. Seems like sport to him. See if he can lure her away from him. Plus, he gets supply from someone who requires less work on his part, as their primary needs are already being taken care of by another man. He gets his prime aim. X

[@cazhickling8151]

Dirty empath is the black streak running through them Borderline ? Thanks H.G brilliant video👤

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Thank you. No, it is not.

[@annettedevries7559]

Hello HG...

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Enchante

[@lazuritekitten]

Oh my god

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Yes, what do you want?

[@lazuritekitten]

@@hgtudor-theultra oh nothing, Master, this just hit so deep

[@krisbloomquist24]

@@hgtudor-theultra lol

[@cyndigooch1162]

@@hgtudor-theultra 😂

[@anthony11117]

@@hgtudor-theultra 😂

[@SpiritOfTheForestSOTF]

Dirty empath - is it a cadre? Found in all schools of empaths?

[@hgtudor-theultra]

No, it is a class and is not always applicable. An empath will always have a school and cadre, Jasmin, but may not have the relevant class of Dirty Empath. There are various types of Dirty Empath but they are not always applicable to every empath.

[@SpiritOfTheForestSOTF]

@@hgtudor-theultra thanks for your explanation.🙏

[@irenewatson]

That sounded like no bank account, no job.No job,no home advert.Especially the bit where the empath says no and the narcissist goes all out to tell the empaths partner.Thats just not cricket HG. Do Narcissists not have any morals? Surely they can't expect empaths to accept the ipps position when they know that's the one that has a great start but guaranteed ending.I am thinking it's paramount to throwing oneself off a cliff and thinking half way down,oh shouldn't have done that!!!

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

The Empath is just someone who lacks self esteem desperately but who isn `t willfully malevolent, and is often (so far I can see) drawn to the false new age religions or eastern mysticism. No one with a healthy and balanced sense of self esteem takes abuse over a prolonged period of time. I almost think they are the negative charge of the battery, where as a narcissist is the positive charge, or vice versa. The narcissist has self esteem, but too much, to the point of repulsive arrogance and self delusion and self importance, that`s how they deal with their sense of worthlessness. The Empath lacks self esteem greatly, which is why they`re drawn to the flattery and love bombing of the narcissist. The narcissist gives them the sense of esteem they so desperately lack within themselves, and then they become dependent on the esteem given, even to the point where they will take the abuse, so long as there are moments of apparent love and attention shown from time to time. I`m afraid that it appears to me that they are so lacking in self esteem, that they are incredibly gullible and willing to take abuse. I don`t think this fault (and it is a fault, a vice of sorts and not a virtue) is the result of a heart full of love and compassion, but sadly, rather the lack of it, and chiefly towards themselves. They are highly attuned to the emotions of those around them since they seek approval to desperate lengths, or have been abused to such an extent that they are highly sensitive to the emotional cues of those around them, often adopting their emotional state in a desperate attempt to connect to the emotions of others to either read signs of danger, or signs of approval. And it is approval which is their Achilles heel, since they don`t approve of themselves apart from the approval of others. I almost think they are the opposite side of the same coin. People love to adopt the title Empath, since an Empath is seen as one who is high in compassion and a benevolent creature, but I really don`t think this is the case. They are high in tolerance as opposed to compassion, and they are not the same thing. Tolerance is not a virtue in and of itself, since there are some things that should not be tolerated. Anyone who has love for self, or compassion for one`s own being does not tolerate the abuse of others willingly, but those who lack these virtues do, since they lack a strong sense of self and self love, compassion for oneself. Ultimately their lack of self esteem is the driving force behind their tolerance of abuse, and not compassion, this is why some Empaths supernova when pushed too far, even the weakest and most timid takers of abuse will react eventually. A truly loving and compassionate person, namely, and I know it might be anathema to some, but a truly Christian person, would never take prolonged periods of abuse, and would nip it in the bud very quickly. They have enough discernment to know that repeated patterns of abusive behaviour are a sign of impenitence, and will quickly respond to this by quickly distancing themselves from such persons, or by standing up to such sniveling cowards, yes, narcissists back off to real strength, and they know it when they see it. They also have enough wisdom to know they can`t fix people, that is God`s job, and so they just hand that person over to God and keep their distance. So please people, lets not define the Empath as some benevolent creature overflowing with love and compassion, but rather, and unfortunately a weak and timid creature who is desperately lacking in self esteem, to the point where they are vulnerable, gullible and easy duped, and all as a result of some sort of abuse, just like the narcissist has suffered. I guess they have very similar backgrounds, but that the narcissist filled with pride went to the dark side. To those people I say, you better repent, since you WILL meet you maker one day, whether you believe it or not, it will happen. You do have a choice, oh yes, you certainly do. You can call out to Jesus Christ. It doesn`t have to be an emotional ascent, but rather one of the will, driven by the knowledge of the terrible fate that awaits such people. To Empaths I say, love yourself by refusing to tolerate abuse, it is not a virtue to do so, and do not assume you can fix people, it is a prideful assumption to think you can, that is God`s job. You are the image of God, and so have transcendent worth and value, so stop seeking the approval of others to the point of vulnerability. Approve of yourself since you have the approval of your creator, he wouldn`t have created you if he didn`t. God bless.

[@JoyOkoroN]

100% agree

[@e.m.7664]

Do narcissists prefer a certain type of empath over another? Or is it a personal preference kind of thing?

[@taliedwards3170]

Yup, and yup and yup.

[@moonfairy74]

Jesus Christ was the ultimate empath. In essence we all have empathetic and narcissistic qualities because we are spiritual beings having a human experience. I know I am a wounded empath and have suffered severe C-PTSD because of that experience and others but also accept responsibility for my pain and don't willingly inflict it upon others, which is what separates me from a narc. I have teetered with the insane thoughts of inflicting pain like a narcissist would because of the trauma they experienced but that is exactly what is wrong with the world today. At some point we have to STOP and take responsibility for our pain and stop projecting it upon wounded and vulnerable people who will eventually perpetuate the darkness!!

[@goldenbubble1803]

Not true because Christ had no personality so He could not be an ultimate empath.

[@islanddreaming9967]

Yes Yes Yes lol....I'm screaming! Its true...

[@metalgodlover]

Is it a possible case of limerence with the narcissist that drives this behavior? I experienced this firsthand myself and became the"Dirty Empath".

[@tammycooper7569]

This was me.....all of the above. But notice I said " was "...Thank you....HG....PS. I discarded my lover Narc....everyday I wish for the sex only...I'm in control of me now...

[@Mudblood77]

I go back and forth. Did she just use me? How much of it was real?

[@avamerritt8935]

Guilty. I’m a cross between super and dirty empath, minus the infidelity. I’m not sexually attracted to anyone I don’t love and cannot have sex with anyone I’m not in love with; I’m too loyal to have go further than friends. I used wish I wasn’t a prisoner of my own virtues when I was constantly cheated on tho

[@DarkCentaur24]

I feel this on a spiritual level...

[@nezlover]

Which video explains why you do this? I would enjoy viewing it. My guesses are financial gain & fuel.

[@hazel1190s]

"You gonna leave me for your husband....". So fucking weird was all I thought at that moment. Scary af. Well as we say in the psychic world, nothing but confirmation.

[@xSnowyOwlx]

You get trodden on such we can't help but seek love and attention elsewhere as narcs are so cold.

[@Sonoio20245]

💥 Chess Game. Very Complex and perverse but they asked for and deserve this and much more. Now, no contact. Bye🎉

[@byrongarcia8968]

Mr. Tudor. I think this apply to me, but I was the primary and my narc was a Middle range. I allways cheated allways came back to her or she to me but allways cheated could you explain how does this afects the narcissist knowing that the primary is always doing the same thing. By the way I know im the primary because I was the "oficial" boyfriend, and after the father of our child. Best regards.

[@deardar2155]

So...what’s a Dirty Empath to do when the Narcissist constantly devalues, shelves and Hoover’s them HG?

[@PaperMario64]

No contact. If that isn’t possible, grey rock. Don’t feed the beast.

[@pippipster6767]

Permanent no contact ... as with any narcissist.

[@nickyxXxXxXx]

Get better at recognizing them. Prevention is better then the cure.

[@achirichello1208]

Await the fleet!

[@Divergent333]

Interesting.

[@Kyanite8]

😳 interesting.

[@crazy-maxedout8512]

Would u say borderline. Is dirty empath??

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Please see my video about the Borderline.

[@iamenergy9310]

The RED PILL never fails

[@AngelKrystalStar]

Who are you calling dirty HG?! 😋😉😖

[@hgtudor-theultra]

You, you dirty, dirty empath. Tut, tut!

[@AngelKrystalStar]

@@hgtudor-theultra 😭😂💕 it’s all so true.

[@trishk5686]

@@hgtudor-theultra 😂😂😂

[@user-jr2gb9ou8b]

Lol

[@blertanesho7539]

So accurate

[@user-jr2gb9ou8b]

"TRAMPLED IT FOR THEIR PARTNER "😟😖😔😔 YESSS....MY LIFE HAS BEEN VERY TUMULTUOUS DEALING BACK WITH MY NARC....LIKE MY WHOLE LIFE IN ALL AREAS HAVE BEEN AFFECTED/INFECTED.....

[@babygrandma8654]

May I ask please, why did you use all caps for your comment?

[@user-jr2gb9ou8b]

@@babygrandma8654 Because I don't think it matters

[@user-jr2gb9ou8b]

@@babygrandma8654 Considering the "Reason" the both of us are here...I do BELIEVE...that my "ALL CAPS" are the least of our troubles Dear.

[@irenewatson]

Well I feel sorry for those who have let their emotions lead to being literally blackmailed by the narcissist who then showers their partner with proof of the empaths sexual infidelity with them.I mean why would you put yourself in that position just because the narcissist wants you to upgrade to ipps and we all know where that leads eventually.You see a woman can have met a man who has a fascinating mind and be entertained and intrigued at the same time especially when the man tells what he will do if you don't jump to his commands.It would seem that if you do,you end up with nothing and no-one,now that only makes sense to the narcissist.

[@ryanreagan6073]

That's like the gay Catholic priest trying to stay away from the Altar Boys

[@ntombifuthiyika5975]

I don't understand how somebody who knowingly, continuously does something that hurts another is called an empath.

[@ntombifuthiyika5975]

I don't understand how an empath can hurt a spouse who didn't bring impotence upon themselves by seeking sex outside of the marriage and use people as objects to satisfy their sexual needs. I believe empaths will want intimacy not just sex.

[@seektruth7381]

@@ntombifuthiyika5975 I believe the impotent spouse was a narc beforehand…

[@tetemay8840]

On point

[@davidcharlton6170]

My friend who I no longer see is a narcissist (All be it a lower range narcissist with a bum dead end job but still a narcissist) His girlfriend AKA Primary source of supply was an empath ... Little does he know I got to "Service" his appliance while she was an IPPS with him. and you THINK only narcissists cheat in a relationship... And the IPPS would NEVER cheat on a narcissist .. HA!

[@nachogoatcheese1761]

If he has you shelved its not cheating. The narc will think so probably but its not.

[@ak-47intelligence75]

Okay, cool. So I cheated in secret, he cheated in the open. Covert and overt narcissists. So we were both narcissists. Cool.

[@pippipster6767]

Is to completely misunderstand the video.

[@ValerieMeeksPOP]

So, maybe Johnny is a DIRTY empath… 🤔

[@user-jr2gb9ou8b]

Ooh SHIT.....🥲😖😖😖

[@ryanreagan6073]

Why would some sucker want to be with a woman that does not satisfy them because of her own selfishness what a simpleton not all empaths are suckers

[@kaybailey-jones3740]

Well, hello me.

[@BennettsShed]

Oi oi saveloy!

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Lick your lips, here's the chips!

[@cathwalsh9921]

@@hgtudor-theultra I just spat my orange out laughing

[@fasiahmedkhan9837]

How can they be called empaths when all they do is hurt the narcissists so badly with infidelity,cheating in relationships and all

[@MsMegancarter]

I guess because it’s not black and white. There are grey areas

[@annetallegrand5656]

How yummy was this😆

[@trustyourself144]

😡