Disappointed With Cherry's Latest Release - New Nixie Switch Review

[@jasonhaiad]

i completely agree about cherry scratch, honestly i like the sound of scratchy mx blacks they sound more chalky to me. chassis matters alot with cherry switches, in something like the ncr-80 and other “hollow” boards i think mx blacks really shine

[@RLkeebs]

Interesting, why do you think that is? Is it because it amplifies the sound of the switch more?

[@naberal]

Are these worth spring swapping like mx blacks, I would like to know before i desolder mine

[@RLkeebs]

To be honest, I don't have much experience with spring swapping, but I suppose the 2 main factors you should consider are whether the stock springs are too heavy for you, and if the spring ping (if any) bothers you so much that you think it's worth going through the effort of desoldering them

[@SnackGuy]

in 2023 no switches are worth hype

[@RLkeebs]

Mmm tbf I think there are some hyped ones that are pretty good, but I suppose them being hyped just sets you up for disappointment

[@jammies701]

Untrue, Gazzew switches are still worth the hype

[@RLkeebs]

@@jammies701 from what I've seen I don't think Gazzew switches are crazily hyped now, but I think people know they're pretty damn good and reliable

[@MiggyBunny11]

@@RLkeebs yep gazzew switches are fine but they're not really that unique anymore, it's just that a lot of people that has tried the gazzew switches aren't really trying other similar hyper tactiles. I agree with the fact that they're still reliable and good for today's standards.

[@RLkeebs]

@@MiggyBunny11 fair enough, I'd love to try some other hyper tactiles and see how they compare! I have some Holy Pandas from Drop but unfortunately they came with lube on the stem legs so the tactility is reduced :(

[@philipp594]

They also have a weird feel when they are pushed off center.

[@RLkeebs]

Hmmm yea it might be related to the less than ideal tolerances which you can see on the housings themselves

[@philipp594]

@@RLkeebs Hmm I would disagree. The nylon bottom is so thin and stiff. It is a very high quality part. The scratch comes from the glas fiber reinforcement in the bottom housing. I think it's down to the geometry not the tolerances.

[@burgosmatthew]

My experience was that the stock spring was quite pingy without lube and that the housing had a lot of wobble due to fairly relaxed tolerances. It wasn't until I lubed, oiled, filmed that I got the most out of them. Eventually I ended up spring swapping because the spring was too heavy. As for sound, my Nixies have a sharper sound than my mx blacks and so they suit me for a more clacky build. Do I feel like they are worth the hype? Only if you are willing to put in the work to make them good. Stock, they are not good.

[@RLkeebs]

Seems like our experiences with the stock switches are pretty similar!

[@0Metatron]

Yea the springs SUCK

[@RLkeebs]

@@0Metatron classic Cherry springs 😂

[@AzenalBaidin]

i agree to about your take about cherry scratch, i use mx brown and its kinda scratchy, but then i tried the gateron brown, its not scratchy but i dont like it because my finger like the scracth of the cherry, but my ears not

[@RLkeebs]

Tbh I've gotten used to the sound of cherry scratch as well, but I can definitely see why many people don't like it!

[@yannickjulien154]

Have you tried the opblacks or popu switches? They were designed to be the modern nixie switch and supposedly feels and sound the same. If so are they comparable to the mx nixies? I have the popus but don't know if i should get the nixies as well.

[@RLkeebs]

I've not tried them unfortunately :(

[@durian1600]

opblacks do not feel and sound the same as nixies

[@XHolyPuffX]

They sound and feel like jwk switches

[@JtwasLuck]

Interesting to hear your thoughts about using switches stock, I was going to lube these but I wanted to break them in first. Mine are from the first batch and honestly they aren't that scratch-y!

[@RLkeebs]

Oooo do you have a break in machine? Lmk how it goes haha, I'm curious as to how much smoother it'll feel

[@involuntarysoul3867]

they are smoother because the mold is brand new, just like some batches of mx black are smoother when cherry retools their molding but we will never know when they do that, that's why they call the cherry RNG

[@RLkeebs]

Cherry RNG 😂 Makes sense though, would be interesting to see how the smoothness of the Nixies changes over different batches

[@0Metatron]

@@RLkeebs I can answer that I had two batches from two different vendors and the first batch were literally the scratchiest switch I’ve ever felt, like really bad!! And the second batch were literally half the level of scratch to the first. The second batch felt the same as when I’d put the first batch through 6 hours of break in

[@nainaigogo6666]

Awesome video Richard!!! Looking forward to more

[@RLkeebs]

Thank you!!!

[@RLkeebs]

Hi everyone, I really appreciate you watching! I did an extended typing test of the Nixies with different keycaps, which you can find here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6W8n2iVqbuof7c Also, if you'd still like to pick these up, you can save 10% on them at KeebCats using code RLKEEBS at checkout, or using this link: collabs.shop/myviau You'll also get 10% off other in stock items!

[@HoangAnhNguyen-gy4tq]

tbh, the nixies was probably a poor decision from cherry since well, its pretty hard to compete with the mx black. Instead they should have hyped up the new ergo clear or maybe make a long pole version of mx black

[@RLkeebs]

Yea I don't see anyone talking about ergo clears, though I do have some issues with that switch as well. Would definitely loved to have seen a long pole mx black but it probably wasn't super feasible because they'll need new molds for the stems

[@enook]

very straightforward and insightful! earned yourself a sub :D

[@RLkeebs]

Thank you very much! I appreciate it ❤️

[@0Metatron]

I’ve had mixed results I got two different batches from two different vendors and the first batch were literally the scratchiest switches I’ve ever felt. Not just standard MX black scratch but double that. And the second batch were magnitudes smoother. So for me it is really batch specific. I am breaking them in anyway with a break in machine because I want that MX Black sound (with the slightly more full bodied sound from the milky top) but with a smoother feel I spring swap them for TX 65g long which also improves them no end because the new nixie springs are sooooo bad

[@RLkeebs]

Hmmmm interesting, thanks for sharing your experience! I might have to try another batch then!

[@0Metatron]

@@RLkeebs No problem, everything else was the same, just the amount of scratch

[@glendongoh322]

Really appreciate how well you put this video together with a very clear distinction between facts and opinions

[@RLkeebs]

Thank you for your kind words!

[@jammies701]

Nice video

[@RLkeebs]

Thank you!

[@sufu__]

Yes they are different. They are much worse than hyperglide and much more expensive.

[@RLkeebs]

I mean I don't think they're worse than hyperglides, but they're definitely not a massive improvement

[@jammies701]

People that spring swap Blacks are interesting. I don’t have some issue with it… but you’re swapping an already mid-weight spring to a lighter one, and you’re already using a linear, and you probably want to lube and have a “buttery smooth” switch It’s an interesting move to essentially be shooting for the feeling of typing on a cloud or the lightest of pillows or something

[@RLkeebs]

For sure, I suppose if you're already opening up all your switches you might as well go all the way. I have some TTC wild switches with a 45g activation and I think around 52g bottom out so it'll be interesting to experience the other end of the linear switch spectrum

[@0Metatron]

I don’t understand ppl who don’t spring swap and then complain about not liking the spring weight or ping of a given switch. It’s so cheap and easy to spring swap if you’re lubing them anyway then why wouldn’t you. I guess if you haven’t yet found your ideal spring weight then it’s understandable but if you have then there is no point in taking the spring into any buying consideration when choosing switches

[@ddwork-h6o]

Can confim these are unusable, just a duplicate cherry black at double the price.

[@RLkeebs]

Yea I feel like they're mx blacks with a slight difference and double the price

[@thanhanle3879]

Still need to be broken-in and lubed properly tho

[@ħarmed]

W

[@afipermana551]

just get cheap taobao cherry & milkytop from china and you got nixies with half of the price, new nixies trash

[@RLkeebs]

I mean I wouldn't say they're trash... They're just not great

[@afipermana551]

@@RLkeebs yea but the price is ridiculous for this switch, specially when cherry doesn’t even bother to make new mold for the bottom housing, thats why i called it trash cause its not worth the price

[@RLkeebs]

@@afipermana551 Oh I heard they were made with new molds, or is that just for the bottom housing?