Disc Comparison Review: Supreme Trespass (versus Lucid X, Lucid, Royal Grace)

[@Captivateitmedia]

Great review. :)

[@joeymiller8021]

Awesome Brian.. can't wait to throw one

[@mikemanning7543]

How does the Supreme Trespass compare to the Fuzion Trespass? I get a little turn out of my Fuzion Trespass and a little more distance than my Lucid Trespass. My Lucid Trespass is much more over stable.

[@BeaverBranch]

I actually had the opposite with the run of Fuzion Trespasses I bought (in 2019). They were an an overstable run. From what I remember the Supreme has some give to it - it will turn. It also seemed to have a little more glide. My seasoned beat in Lucid Trespasses will fire a straight shot. The Supreme would turn and come back (making a helix/S flight as oppose to straight and less fade). The Supreme Escape, for me, had a similar flight (straight for Lucid and more turn and fade for it - got more distance too in both cases - like 20-30’).

[@jakemiller270]

I bag a lucid trespass, supreme trespass and 2 graces. The supreme trespass is stable in a headwind so far but Ohio winters make everything stable. I think the Grace, Lucid and Supreme all fit needed stability slots.

[@BeaverBranch]

I cycle in two very best lucid Trespasses they are seasoned to straight! Every time I do a review I’m surprised how stable a brand new one is! Grace is a nice compliment to the Trespass, it flies like my ones I was just typing about!

[@jakemiller270]

@@BeaverBranch I am switching to Trilogy plastic drivers and haven't really thrown them in over 70 degree weather so I hope my lucid trespass will fly a little more neutral and supreme trespass keeps its over stability in summer heat. Fingers crossed.

[@BeaverBranch]

@@jakemiller270 I don’t know if it was a one run and done, but Fuzion Trespasses have notoriously been more stable than the Lucid! The life of the “Royal” and now “Supreme” plastic to be determined. Especially through the woods courses of the mid-Atlantic!

[@TheoreticalMediaInc]

I don’t think arm speed is your issue with distance, watch yourself throw at 0.25x speed. A lot of rounding in the reach back and using arm to pull the disc more than needed. Not an insult though, you hit super accurate lines and throw really well regardless, and I dig your reviews. Just saying, I think you could handle more disc than you think if you solved that!

[@BeaverBranch]

Thanks William. It’s a work in progress! The rounding used to be a little worse. As a golfer, I play accuracy over distance as much as I can!!!

[@TheoreticalMediaInc]

@@BeaverBranch accuracy scores, that’s why I can’t say much, your throws seem to be very consistent and very accurate, you hit your lines really well. Just throwing that out as something to think about! Keep shredding man!

[@Iliyena87]

Bought a light used Trust, 2 Grand Graces, felt flashing on them all, very little but not "doesnt exist" like everyone says, they must compare it to my FX-2's :P

[@Iliyena87]

Ohh, right, got me a Rive right at the beginning of the summer, almost zero flashing! finaly seems to have been beat in a bit to get some distance out of it. Gonna throw it more soon along the Grace's!

[@BeaverBranch]

Yeah I should compare the Royal and Supreme plastics to Goldline and Fuzion. Latitude came out with new molds (Grace, Rive, Trust etc. DD went with their molds and made new molds anyway). Wonder what they will do for Westside?

[@60gibsonable]

i used to bag a lower weight trespass about 168 or so that was my furthest flying disc i lost that one and replaced it with a heavier 174 but its way to much disc now :D

[@BeaverBranch]

My sweet spot is between 168-171. I have a very beat Ballista Pro 168 and it’s my farthest flying disc. Beat Lucid Trespasses, Graces and TP Swords are all discs I can get distance with. Above that usually too stable, won’t stand up!

[@adammontgomery9752]

With the supreme trespass being a "new mold" do you think its more like a sword being that a sword is 22mm rim width and a normal trespass trespass is 21?

[@BeaverBranch]

I think the sword is less stable out of the box than the trespass. I thought, when I tested it that it flew pretty close to other new trespasses. (I can’t notice the 1mm).

[@paulking0512]

Just an fyi with the Supreme Trespass. It is a 2.2cm rim like the Grace and Flow. The reguler Trespass is 2.1cm because they retooled it. Also the Trespass numbers are 12/5/-1/3, the Supreme Trespass is 12/5/-0.5/3. So the added .1cm took away some turn.

[@BeaverBranch]

Thank you for sharing that info!

[@randyvangorder4174]

​@@paulking0512The fade rating on the supreme is actually a 2 not a 3.

[@BeaverBranch]

@randyvangorder4174 I stand corrected! I am not sure the ratings were official back when I tested this. It’s definitely not as stable as a brand new Lucid!

[@mpbx3003]

I was pretty sure I wasn't the right player for these, and I think this is good proof. 😅 I struggle to really push my Grace consistently, so the Trespass is probably way too much at this point. I bet they're going to be love at first sight for a lot of Intermediate arms, though.

[@BeaverBranch]

Stick to the Grace! It’s my preference now! The one thing is the trespass could be the next step up. For instance Grace into a headwind, the Trespass turns into the Grace (as the wind comes towards you your arm speed magically increases!) enjoy your Graces!

[@mpbx3003]

@@BeaverBranch I have an old Opto Flow I picked up out of a used bin for my moderate wind disc currently. It's got just enough turn that a good headwind will make it work for me. Now I just need to work on hitting my nose angle and timing consistently! 😅