Disc Golf Project 800ft/90mph Episode 1

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Make sure to select 4K quality even if using a lower-resolution screen :) it will make sure KZbin delivers the full-fidelity video data to your device before resolution downscaling. Also, let me know what y'all think of the format, do we like the car drive talk, or should we skip it next time? Do you like the side cam overlay or want to see a different zoom style on the rear cam?

[@JustSomeHero]

car talk was great, keep it coming

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Thank you for the feedback, and will do!

[@mordek777]

Really glad I came across your content. Love the athletic perspective being applied to disc golf. Also, nothing rivals the MVP putter line up.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Thank you for the support!! And agreed, my favorite and most useful discs I've ever thrown.

[@polecat3067]

I'm not sure if it would add distance to the 360, but something you could try is initiating the rotation by throwing your right arm behind you. If you watch wiggins or lizotte they both do this

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

That's a great suggestion, the guy helping me with form on dgcoursereview suggested it as well so I tried it out a month or two ago but it never felt right for me, oddly enough. I think it may be because the arm swing I use is more similar to my sprinting form so it gives me slightly better results for my situation 👍

[@Log9938]

Some great info in here

[@skylerstock2030]

I like the whole setup, it's fresh and offers something a bit different. I'm just getting into my first 360 throws and developing a form, I've been watching your videos over that past month or two and I'll keep watching if you're going throw over 800. My first throws were just over 400, felt weird throwing at faster speeds so I had to slow down, it felt natural and the disc was actually releasing somewhat where it needed to. I digress.. Thank you for the videos of your form and insight to your where your mind is when going into training. This is helping me learn and I'm sure it's helping others as well!!!😊

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

You're welcome Skyler, and thank you for the support and feedback! Helps me make my videos better for y'all. Sounds really fun, learning the 360 can be so awkward at first but gets really satisfying once it clicks. Best of luck with your continued progress 👍

[@johnferrell3998]

I really enjoyed the style of the intro. And watching you how you warm up then progress through to full power 360 shots is something else. I've added a few of your warm ups to my routine the hip flexer one has worked well for me and have gained blood flow and felt back pain relief. 90mph is right around the corner broham. Got to put more centrifugal force on it like a figure skater lol

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Awesome, I appreciate the feedback John! Also it's great to hear the extreme iso lunges have been helping your back pain. I hope those exercises continue to help you.

[@luftisbollen]

you only did 3 power throws and the conditions was not the best and you still hit 600+, awesome, btw some slowmotion shots (back and side) would be nice and also your breading in the mic, also give some tiny tips like where you release point should be or your power pocket and make sure you hit that to gain speed anyway good luck, mr 85 🤗👍

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

@@luftisbollen 🤝 thank you!

[@aaronbudd5509]

Having a degree in Mechanical Engineering, i pickup up on the engineering speak real quick from previous videos, but i never heard you mention an engineering degree. then in this one i was like "bros gotta have an engineering degree" then you said you were an Aerospace engineer by training. I knew it! I love the engineering speak, i just get things alot more from how you present things than the other guys who are just naturally or even practiced good. --- also i like the car talk but thats also cause i like how you speak about disc golf. keep it up man!

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

I’m really glad to hear that Aaron! Thanks for watching and giving some nice feedback. Sounds like I’m go for launch to continue with my physics discussions throughout the vlogs 😂

[@stepwise-dg]

What are your thoughts on using a more than max weight disc for training (into a net). Basically if you are used to throwing more than max weight, then going down to max weight would feel like when you go down to something lighter than max weight and might help boost arm speed? I was thinking lead tape or even super gluing two light discs together lol. Of course it will mess up the weight balance or change the grip feel but maybe that's not a big concern if just throwing into a net.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

It's something I think could be of huge training value, heavy implements force us to find an efficient kinetic chain much quicker than lighter implements :) especially for bigger stronger individuals who can get away with sloppy form. Just haven't gotten around to needing it to push through a plateau yet but that could come soon. I also think Gateway makes extremely heavyweight Wizards (close to 300g).

[@stepwise-dg]

@@NickKrush.DGandFit oh wow, didn’t know there were any extra heavy discs, I’ll check it out. Just gotta be more careful about injury and easy into it.

[@JustSomeHero]

we have the aerospace engineers at mvp making discs and now we have the aerospace engineer with max distance capability. i feel like we need those two worlds to collide somehow - curious what your thoughts are on gyro discs.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

I could type my fingers off about that but I’ll try not to here haha. I love the technology and what it does for the moment of inertia of the discs, I personally have noticed more of a difference with their putters than the drivers. The proxy for example, flies incredibly straight for much much power it holds. I haven’t calced the MOI numbers but I’m suspicious the MOI is more greatly enhanced on putters than drivers because of putters generally having a more even mass distribution from flight plate to rim in non gyro discs.

[@JustSomeHero]

@@NickKrush.DGandFit very interesting, thank you! it’s always cool when the right person with the right capabilities finds something they enjoy that they can contribute to in an impactful way. i hope you find success in this area so you stick around.

[@andreasericsson6989]

Nothing gets "ingrained in the spinal cord", but you build better neural connections to the muscles and an activation pattern in your brain that let's you treat a complex multistep movement like a single, simpler one. It's how we walk, sit down, get up from the floor etc, all without really thinking about it. The spinal cord is just a cable though. It carries information, but doesn't hold any information.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

I think we probably mostly agree and it’s an issue of semantics (where I miscommunicated by saying the whole motor pattern script is contained in the spine), here’s one of the studies I was referring to: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17250566/

[@deepsender]

I've heard from many people online that playing rounds of disc golf with putters only can help you improve because a putter will reveal your flaws more than a high-speed disc. I believe that the blunt leading edge of a putter will be more forgiving to various angles-of-attack, and thus hide throwing flaws. I'm just guessing based on my own limited knowledge of aerodynamics. Can you give your opinion on this based on your expertise in aerospace engineering?

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Good question, it can go both ways. Putters are more sensitive to off-axis torque (wobble), so they expose form flaws in those terms. But, like you said, their shape reduces how much the center of lift moves forward and aft (vs. angle of attack) on the airfoil which reduces the rolling moment induced by gyroscopic forces (turn and fade). So, their perceived "stability" or "turn" isn't as affected by nose angle as drivers, but I think they still punish you distance-wise for poor nose angles (more airflow induces pressure-drag inside of deeper rear rim). Certainly something that has to be closely monitored nonetheless but I personally love using them as a tool 👍

[@AxisDiscPowers]

I'm ready to go. I uploaded my standstill just for fun. When the cold here in Sweden settles, I will be back at it. I'm gonna Krush you Nick.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Love it! Video looked fast and explosive, keep up the good work

[@AxisDiscPowers]

@@NickKrush.DGandFit Yeah, discgolf form work turned out to be a surprisingly good workout. And it is also very satisfying feedback to watch the disc fly. So I sticking to it. I just started because I wanted to reach the 360' hole on the local course. Then the aspiration grew. Any tip from the top of your head what I could do to get more power in that standstill would be appreciated. Because it does not feel like my max.

[@AxisDiscPowers]

@@NickKrush.DGandFit I don't know if I'm double posting now, my comment just disappered. Here we go again. But a lot shorter...hehe Yeah, the discgolf form work is a surprisingly good workout, so I'm sticking to it. If you from the top of your head can see something I could do to get more power in the standstill any suggestion would be appreciated. It does not feel like my maximum. And no, I'm not gonna "Krush" you with a 90 mph 360 at soon to be 42 years old, so no worries there. 🙂

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

@@AxisDiscPowers oh no I hate when that happens, especially after typing such a detailed comment. From a power generation perspective, I was happy with how you sequenced your body. The one thing I see that could help you the most is to try and slow down your backswing a touch and keep the wrist more in a nose down and slightly curled position. It looks like it may have gotten loose during the reachback and the disc's wing angle and nose angle changed a lot during the pull through which could make accurate throwing more difficult.

[@AxisDiscPowers]

@@NickKrush.DGandFit In my mind I'm holding the disc with some tension down as a teapot, slightly curled wrist and forearm slightly twisted forward. It feels like I have that all the way through so the video surprises me. But yeah, the extension is maybe a bit violent. A remnant of trying to find the rubberband effect. It is definitely a lot of rubberbanding going on in the drunken kung fu style I'm rocking here. It looks like I launch it nose up straight up in the air, but It's just an optical illusion. It doesn't go higher than 20 feet in the air. Not a good angle from the ground. But yeah, maybe I am losing lag when I throw it back that violently. Gonna experiment with that. Thanks!

[@davidf.1940]

Anything is possible if you put your mind to it brother. I hope you can head to kansas or something one day to see how far you can throw with extreme wind!

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Thank you for the support! I’d love to get back out to the Midwest to throw discs again, it’s been years for me

[@vyllid7180]

The car intro is great and your whole style gives off some Sam Sulek vibes, which is definitely a good thing lol. Sorry if you’ve answered this, but do you have any interest in eventually playing tournaments and pursing the competitive side of disc golf? The distance is obviously such an advantage

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Glad to hear it and no worries, I haven't addressed that question in a video quite yet. Because of the time I spend training for sprinting I'm unable to dedicate enough time to other disc golf practice outside of distance throwing, but I am planning on at least doing distance contests this year (I just need to join the PDGA and then sign up for the comps).

[@pisteville7797]

Car talk was great, always known that closed plant is vetter but never knew that it activates glutes better. Do you aim more left than x-step looks from camera or is the disc just hard to grip in high velocity?

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Great question! I think I was struggling with some timing issues coming from my lower body on this particular session, so I had quite a few early releases as a result. Some of it could also be the zoomed in rear camera that is off to the left of me, but I’m hoping to clean it up next time out 👍

[@pisteville7797]

Thanks for clarity. Sometimes the camera angle lies a little. Usually when someone is throwing really fast they are more like late grips. Really like these in depth golden nuggets of information that is in your content. Keep going! Maybe touch little bit more for brace and posterior chain in some video? Many influencer will tell that brace is ment to stop linear momentum but I feel you kind of push up at the same time you hit from powerpocket.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

@@pisteville7797 you're welcome and I'm glad it was helpful! I definitely would like to talk about bracing physics and mechanics when I get around to making form videos, great idea there. The way my buddy Clint explains it in this video is really good and could help you in the meanwhile: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGG7i559iKyKbbMsi=hBlGSJVrL2fFQMyt

[@OkieTradez]

something im really picking up on which i noticed you doing it with your stand stills and now i see it on every throw no matter the intended angle of release is how you realllly show your back to the target much more then most and notice all the best pros do this too. its almost like youre rounding but you are not of course its really like how Lizotte talks about getting your planter foot out more to the right and naturally to do that you need to show your back or open up the hips i thinks is the correct terminology. so its like you throw to the left of the line whereas most ppl like myself have our shoulders on the line the whole way vs you only get your shoulder on the line at the last second after exploding onto the line idk if that makes sense? like you release to the left of the cones vs most would release on the line of the cones or slightly to the right of the cones!

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

That’s a cool observation, I agree I think a lot of it is from increasing the coil of my upper body. I also was struggling with some form changes I was making so did have some early releases as a result 👍

[@hoodrich4375]

Any tips on increasing spin? Apparently I'm throwing with fast arm speed but my spin is abysmal

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

It's hard for me to give strong recommendations without doing form analysis of you individually, but in general I have found that pulling the disc deeper into the pocket and having it leverage/fling around the hand/fingers closer to release can increase it's spin rate due to the disc's mass rotating around your hand pivot point in a shorter period of time. There will always be some give and take between velocity and spin rate though, and the perfect balance of the two will be different for each person.

[@790dragonslayer]

What are you using to measure your speed?

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

I use a photogrammetry technique with a side camera, then I use the disc's diameter as a reference length and track how far it goes in x amount of frames. Using the video framerate we can calculate the projection of the disc's velocity vector onto the camera view's normal plane. It's very accurate but is time consuming and can underestimate velocity if I don't have the camera perfectly set up.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Forgot to mention, at 43:19 into the video I have an image of my photogrammetry of that 85 mph throw :)

[@marshmadnessdg]

Give the Innova firestorm a try. 14 speed that gets me the most distance that no one talks about. I would be curious to see how they work for you. It says 4 glide but that is not accurate.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Thank you for the heads up with that, I'll have to research the dimensions of it and might end up trying it out!

[@ShawnSchulz]

Based on how the last series went...in 3 weeks...road to 1000ft.

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

😂 would be a nice surprise for me

[@cecilieandersen3499]

Simon Lizotte has to stick with limited power. Until Eagle McMahon is 100% healthy, (probably not until late summer or fall) we wont see a top thrower test the limit on MVP Gyro. You get amazing torque and spin. Gyro makes discs spin longer if you have the power to harness all that energy. Would be so interesting to see you test MVP. Please, please, please. Dimension, Limit, Energy and Nitro is waiting for you. Get Eagles input on what disc he think will most likely fit your distance throw. You can break 800 for sure!

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Thank you for the nice words! Saw your other comment and mentioned I may reach out to Eagle if I decide to try some.

[@tombrockhoff3081]

Try to throw a lefty 360. I think you might he good at it

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

I’ve been kicking around the idea of learning lefty backhand for sidearm situations so if I do, I’ll send some 360’s before too long :)

[@dylanrodriguez8203]

I want u to throw the Borium

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

I had never heard of that disc so had to google, thank you for the heads up it looks really aerodynamic and I'll have to try it!

[@Winton-fam]

AB has the fastest in competition at 87 MPH i think. He went 87 and then 86 next throw. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnjFiIeXrpaWr8Usi=O8msrEKrOhaPDSEm

[@NickKrush.DGandFit]

Thank you for finding that for me, that answers my question :) super impressive throwing by him.