Discrimination at Mozilla? Nvidia + Wayland, Intel 50% boost: Linux & Open Source News

[@TheLinuxEXP]

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[@jahanson]

This actually seems pretty legit. Thanks for the share!

[@ErdrickHero]

Mozilla needs to get out of the drama news. We don't need the last useful non-chromium browser dragged through the mud for any reason.

[@pyepye-io4vu]

The fact that they are the last useful non-chromium browser is the reason why they are dragged through the mud. Since they are the last competitor, Google pays them to avoid the antitrust issues. This makes Mozilla a very easy target, low hanging fruit, for corporate psychopaths (especially women + LGBTQ + DEI types). Because Mozilla is guaranteed that money even if they don't do much.

[@JessicaFEREM]

I kinda think that Laura is trying to protect her role as CEO and is unfairly screwing with him to hopefully get him to leave so she can keep the role. very shady.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Might be, yeah

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

@@TheLinuxEXP Hmmm... This is making me wanna swap to another browser if true. But there aren't really any "good" alternatives anymore...

[@skelebro9999]

Protecting her role by fxxking over a cancer patient is just evil. Imagine being that guy and your boss just demotes you for having a chronic disease. Disgusting.

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

@@skelebro9999 We need a better browser market atp

[@Myname-l3h]

@@TheLinuxEXP hey bro, what distro do you use? Im from Pakistan. Get well bro

[@SnakePlissken25]

"Mozilla's ad business" is a phrase that makes me puke in my mouth a little bit.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Yep

[@skelebro9999]

I have written a comment about Mozilla's new CEO on one of your older news videos. "Hope the CEO is sane enough to handle Mozilla and doesn't turn it into a shady company." I think I'm starting to lose hope.

[@zeta0590]

I remember your comment lmao. This might be a recurring problem with mozilla and I am not very hopeful for firefox or thunderbird if they continue this way.

[@T1Oracle]

They earn all of their money from Google. This was always going to be the result. They never had a sustainable business model.

[@skelebro9999]

​@@zeta0590 Funny how I recently switched back to Brave because Firefox starting to feel quite sluggish on my PC as well as my phone and seems like I've made a good decision 😅 Hope they recover from this situation though.

[@skelebro9999]

​@@zeta0590I have recently switched back to Brave because of performance issues. Seems like it was a good decision lol

[@vertical5044]

There should be some in-company ways to vote someone out of their role if there is a majority consensus. Don't let one person screw most of things.

[@winmac2565]

I live in Texas and I was fired after I disclosed to HR that I would be undergoing Cancer treatments. Living in a "Right to Work" state gives employers the ability to terminate staff without citing any specific reasons. When I was terminated, my Health Insurance was also taken from me. I had to leave my country and go to Canada for treatment just so I wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt. While I still had to pay for my care in Canada, it was a fraction of the costs and still received amazing treatment. I'm in remission now and my former supervisor recently asked if I wanted to come back to work for the company. I told them to go to Hell.

[@lluchmartinez3586]

congrats on your recovery

[@RealBrokoli]

Sue their asses

[@winmac2565]

@@RealBrokoli They're protected under state and federal law unfortunately. They don't have to have any reason for terminating employment, they can just do so at will. I've looked into it.

[@fallow64]

@@winmac2565 Not a lawyer, but definitely get a legal consultation if you haven't already! Even if you don't believe you have a case; it's worth it to at least talk to a lawyer.

[@ghostware6057]

​@@winmac2565seconding fallow here, unlawful termination still exists in Right to Work states. I would def seek legal advice if you can. But congrats on the recovery! I hope it's uphill from here for you

[@uis246]

Important correction: CPO is suing Mozilla Corporation, not Mozilla Foundation

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

Oh dear. The Mozilla news. Please get your shit together Mozilla. You need to be good or else we'll all migrate to a different product even if it means a monopoly in rendering engines. Dear.

[@cameronbosch1213]

I already did. The writing has been on the wall for a while now.

[@supercellex4D]

WWW is doomed

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@supercellex4D It's been doomed for years now, what's new there?

[@supercellex4D]

@@cameronbosch1213 The fact that now we don’t have any refuge, even going back to physical reality because everyone is so addicted to technology. May a solar flare smite us all…

[@redstone0234]

Blink (used on chrome) os a fork from WebKit (Safari)

[@Joel11111]

I tried the cosmic desktop. It’s not bad. To me, the appeal is the ability to do tiling with smooth animations without having to fiddle with hyprland.

[@Slugbunny]

Love this new CEO at Mozilla, really bringing that corporate culture to the table. 😒

[@yash.upadhyay]

Get well soon 😊

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thanks!

[@HyperDondon]

If the Linux kernel and the distros continue to fix bugs at this rate, I might consider FULLY switching to Linux. I still dual boot because many day-to-day tasks I do only work on windows or is more polished on Windows.

[@ShorkKeith]

I think dual booting is a solid choice for long term use. There are still many things that windows only can do well and I dunno if that's gonna change anytime soon. I really want to be wrong tho.

[@hasnainhasib4396]

If I get Microsoft office support and some other mainstream productive app on Linux I'll delete windows right away.

[@Akab]

LTS support distros really need rolling updates for bugfixes and patches at least IMO. I really can't run rolling release distros because I break them all the time, but I also don't want to be stuck with some bugs til the next update unless I do some hackerydoo stuff... I'm not a power user. I like linux. I like GNOME and KDE. they do great work and their desktops are easy and intuitive to use but rolling release/bleeding edge distros just aren't user friendly...

[@No-mq5lw]

@@hasnainhasib4396 There's LibreOffice, but *x and Excel parity still aren't there IIRC.

[@Bagginsess]

@@hasnainhasib4396same. How proton can't be used on adobe products or other software confuses me. I know they aren't games but they use the same pipelines to communicate with windows do they not?

[@marsovac]

Firefox is a browser without support for progressive web apps and without HDR video. Mozilla needs to get their shit together. I'd like to use them but it doesn't work for my needs.

[@turtlefrog369]

i dont want "progressive web apps". but yeah the multimedia in firefox sucks.

[@nninjastrike2127]

HDR Support is being developed (with NVidias help) and you can see this in the Mozilla Connect website (search for the post that is called "HDR support for Windows"). PWAs is just in review unfortunately (post is called "Bring back PWA (progressive web apps)" ), however in that post there is a link from a Mozilla employee (21/06/24) that goes into detail how they're going to implement PWAs, so you could share you're opinion onto it. I would send you the links but I don't want to be assumed to be a bot and banned.

[@lemonline3719]

I've been able to install PWAs in FF

[@mowards]

@@turtlefrog369 Elaborate.

[@FlynTie]

This Mozilla news is really bad. I mean sure it's up to the courts to decide on the case but if this turns out to be the case, Mozilla certainly needs to restructure their management as this is absolutely unacceptable!

[@AtPlume]

SHOCKING: Mozilla, the non-profit who's been consistently acting like a for-profit, is acting like a for-profit again! I'm being awful I know but... it's kinda true.

[@Retalak]

Non-profits are still capitalist firms, and are for profit. They just have arbitrary limits on how much profit and what they can do with it. You can't limit or regulate the logic of capital out of a capitalist organization.

[@soku890]

Mozilla Foundation is just a front for Mozilla Corporation, the for-profit company, whose entire revenue stream are yearly $500M "we are not a monopoly" alibi payments from Google.

[@muizzsiddique]

Mozilla Corp or Mozilla Foundation?

[@sweetsweetkhajoor]

wtf is going on with mozzila nowadays, is firefox cooked?

[@tablettablete186]

I am afraid so... curious to see what others have to say

[@wikwayer]

At worst time possible 😑

[@tschorsch]

It's an upper level executive drama. It's nothing more than that.

[@DiversionG]

Not necessarily but that's a bad CEO for sure, it makes you wonder if the board of directors is any better

[@pronounjow]

This has been Mozilla since 2014.

[@epochphilosophy]

The Mozilla case really is even more grotesque than what initial headlines are stating. Mozilla has some tough times ahead of them.

[@BaileyJames-zv2ddd]

This video indicates you don't need a high IQ to be a good investor, just 2 qualities, self discipline and a lot of patience. Investing is mostly about behavioral psychology. How can I generate more income to retire with at least $3m for long term care?

[@AlexClarkcompany]

investors like you should be cautious of the bull run, its best you connect with a well-qualified adviser to meet your growth goals and avoid blunder.

[@OscarOwenn]

It's unfortunate most people don't have such information. I don't really blame people who panic. Lack of information can be a big hurdle. I've been making more than $45k passively by just investing through an advisor, and I don't have to do much work. Doesn't matter if the economy is misbehaving; great wealth managers will always make returns.

[@BaileyJames-zv2ddd]

I've been looking to get one, but have been kind of relaxed about it. Could you recommend your advis0r? I'll be happy to use some help

[@OscarOwenn]

I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with the popularly 'Leah Foster Alderman' for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look her up.

[@BaileyJames-zv2ddd]

Wow, her track record looks really good from what I found online. I'll take a chance and see how it goes. Thanks for the info

[@Just_Add_Coffee]

I think the reasons to get excited about COSMIC might not be obvious to users who aren't fans of tiling WMs and/or keyboard-centric workflows. I am a fan, and I know that neither GNOME, KDE, nor Cinnamon offer tiling out-of-the-box. The best solution so far, that I've found, has been Pop OS' Frankenstein's monster built atop GNOME. And doing this in Rust *should* result in a much more robust. less resource-devouring system.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Yeah, what I’m excited about is more the fact that it doesn’t carry a lot of legacy code like GNOME or KDE. It a whole new thing for the new Linux stack, so things might be really nice on that front. And features can always be added as time goes on

[@noot1337]

i don't get your fascination with rust. it's at best as well performing as C, the language every other DE is written in. So, best case scenario, it's just as good

[@connivingkhajiit]

@@noot1337 except C has much worse memory management inherently

[@noot1337]

@@connivingkhajiit C requires a brain

[@bogaczew]

@@noot1337 and rust doesn't?

[@tj2375]

Mozilla's behavior is appalling.

[@OldieBugger]

Of course they fix the NVIDIA issues after I buy an AMD display adapter to be 100% Linux compatible. Well, I needed a better one anyway, but NVIDIA could have made it slightly cheaper.

[@kozmikhero6749]

One of the things that's held me back from switching to linux is my hardware. I want to use Wayland but I use a gtx 1080ti and my cpu is a 13600kf. This weeks news is MASSIVE for me with the nvidia drivers and the hybrid intel fixes. Look like July may be the month it finally happens

[@MiukuMac]

555.58 drivers on my 4090 work like a dream on openSUSE Tumble + Wayland + KDE 6.1. Note; they are not yet available out of the box and require some tinkering.

[@Peter-iw3ob]

I don't know how well the drivers will work with anything older then a 20 series though

[@AwakenedPhoenix309]

@@Peter-iw3ob Yes - from what I understand, the improvements to Wayland are only going to apply to 20 series and newer. Anybody with an older Nvidia GPU is likely best off sticking with X11 on a distro that supports it.

[@krzysiek2768]

@@AwakenedPhoenix309 I am 20 series owner and I would say patches from last few months are more for 30 series and newer. Older gpus even get regression in stability and performance ... at least for X11 :)

[@maikeru6158]

I’m in a similar boat, but on an lts distro basically (Linux mint), so unless I want to install drivers through a ppa I’m stuck on x11

[@sprinklednights]

Even without the accusation, Mozilla has been known for managing things poorly.

[@mirage809]

Man... Can Mozilla like not mess up? Seems to be asking too much nowadays. COSMIC is something I'm very excited about. From what I'm hearing from the people using the pre-alpha it's already very solid and workable. I really enjoyed what they did with their modified Gnome shell, so having that is its own thing is wonderful. Death to X11! It's about time and I'm happy to see Red Hat pushing hard to get that bandaid ripped off. Get well soon dude.

[@anonlegion8331]

Please save Firefox from Mozilla!

[@KuruGDI]

It's not a nice way how all of this is going, but the Mozilla company just goes the way of the Mozilla browser. The quality of their companies just dies as their browsers quality already has and still is. As said: This is not a nice end, but on the other hand Mozilla is also not really worth saving any more.

[@Bhethar]

I am not surprised about Mozilla being a horrible company considering how many dumb, creepy and greedy choices they have made lately.

[@AQDuck]

Mozilla is really trying to get me to switch browser...

[@maikeru6158]

Use a fork like librewolf or something similar

[@AQDuck]

@@maikeru6158 I find Librewolf breaking too much stuff and significantly reduces performance. Also on Plasma it just doesn't follow the window rules about position and scale at all.

[@novaTopFlex]

@@maikeru6158 Try GNU IceCat. I have this browser although not using the mainline Debian distribution.

[@Marcos_Tired]

I use it, actually because I think is a bit more stable, even if at cost of encountering some trouble trying to access some sites. But, without Firefox ,Libre Wolf is not self sufficient, so... ​@@maikeru6158

[@Milos596]

I switched to Edge for now. I was so pissed off, when i reinstalled my OS, and logged in Mozzila account. And guess what, all my bookmarks aren't there anymore. Some bookmarks that i had for 15 years are gone. So i said f it, i am switching to something else.

[@JacksonNick-j6i]

Maybe COSMIC will be a competitor to GNOME and make them run and be better. At the moment GNOME has a semi monopoly since it's the default on major diatros and that's why they developed the attitude to not communicate and be open to outside opinions. It may not seem like a competition since open source is not a business, but I think GNOME devs have enough ego to see the market as a competition.

[@maaren3150]

Gnome devs have awful egos yeah

[@novaTopFlex]

If you are a serious Linux user, I would recommend Xfce. What you do not realize is that the GNOME desktop and even KDE to a lesser extent are two of the most bloated Linux interfaces. Xfce, on the other hand, should function well even on lower hardware.

[@JacksonNick-j6i]

@@novaTopFlex Bloated is a misunderstood word. Bloat is when the memory and disk space allocated by the program is wasted on non productive executions and functions. For example, Gnome uses a lot of memory, but does all that memory assign to an instruction or feature in the program? If not, then it is wasted on the operations that should not use that amount of memory. On the other hand KDE Plasma uses a bunch of memory because it has a bunch of features and operations to feed. And Plasma is generally more optimized than Gnome since its developers are way ahead of Gnome in term of skill. XFCE is nice. I'm waiting for Wayland support.

[@SLayeR-ud9ji]

Never thought I'd see the day my 3070 is able to run Hyprland without any glitches, hitches or other shortcomings. Or that the experience wouldn't be miserable, let alone that it would actually be great and even G-Sync would work as it should.

[@keltyll]

Despite using the latest NVIDIA drivers and KDE Plasma 6.1 on my Arch system, I'm still experiencing numerous interface glitches. Most notably, when I put my PC into sleep mode, it fails to wake up properly, displaying intermittent screen flickering and unresponsive behavior.

[@hughmungus6941]

I found running nvidia drivers newer than 535 almost impossible due to graphical issues and most importantly failures to wake up

[@adispenser]

@@hughmungus6941 you can fix the failures to wake up by enabling nvidia-resume nvidia-suspend and nvidia-hibernate services. Also, alot of graphical issues should be fixed in 555 like in the video but your problem may be different

[@atemoc]

I've upgraded to 555 but still had some issues (even though the performance gains are excellent), so I just switched to my integrated Radeon Vega 11 graphics and use my GPU with PRIME Offload for games and such, no more issues.

[@Totallynotmwa]

I never experienced this i only experienced very low resulation with black screen and cursor on fedora linux

[@reed6514]

When a company appeals to following the law in their response statement, IMO it means they did a bad, even if technically it was legal.

[@TheUnkow]

That's why they call it virtue signalling. Because it's just a signal, not a genuine trait. Mozilla loves making it seem like they are accepting and open minded ... but if you closely follow the events around them (and all others who are too vocal about being inclusive), you will see that they do actually have preferences and have no issues with discrimination against groups that they feel are fair play.

[@Thorned_Rose]

Mozilla Corporation is different to Mozilla Foundation (aka Firefox). Even if Mozilla Corp went under it wouldn't necessarily mean the end of Firefox. Firefox has been around a loooong time now and has several forks. Rather disturbing the amount of sexism cropping up in the comments. Other male dominated corporations have their fair share of corporate bullshittery going on between management/CEOs/boards (see Microsoft, Google/Alphabet, Apple, Sony, Facebook/Meta, etc., etc., etc.) without crying that feminism and DEI is destroying the company. This has nothing to do with sex/gender and everything to do with the same profit pushing and human ego EVERY large corporation suffers with. I'm not switching from Firefox, just because a corporation that helps fund the browser might have a shitty human being at the helm, to a browser controlled by a behemoth corporate entity that enjoys railroading people's privacy, datamining everyone to oblivion, and is trying it's darnedest to own and control the internet.

[@lemonline3719]

Thank you!!! "DEI" has become the scapegoat for everything now, when it has nothing to do with the matter at hand.

[@issen2291]

I don't know if it's just me, but I have noticed an extremely accelerated rate of polish in the desktop linux experience in the past year or two. Whenever I've used Linux on a gaming laptop it's been a nightmare for one reason or another, but on my current Legion Slim 5, it's only been a couple relatively minor issues that were easy to work around with user scripts. I still wouldn't say it's "casual user-ready", but it's closer than I've ever seen before. Spitting distance!

[@temari2860]

I'm hyped for cosmic since day 1, and I'll wait another year if needed. It's not really about new features for me, but about a desktop that's built fully in a modern stack for modern needs. All other desktops we have carry a huge legacy of the past and are tightly connected with technologies that aren't exactly part of the project itself (GTK and QT). Besides I love that COSMIC's vision is the golden middle for me between KDE's and GNOME's approaches.

[@Mempler]

Companies will always be companies. It doesn't matter who it is. They'll always do some stupid stuff like mozilla might did here.

[@Tracenji]

what Mozilla should do is fire Laura, offer Teixeira a nice amount of money, and assuming it's true that he was being considered as CEO, offer him the position of CEO

[@magicalnoodles]

We don't know what the truth is at all yet. Let the lawsuit play out, and only then decide on your opinion of the drama.

[@Tracenji]

@@magicalnoodles this is true my original comment is written from the perspective of that everything being claimed is true

[@ikeahloe]

Cosmic's platform is what to be excited about and it's what they're focused on. The amount GNOME will have to do to compete with the modern stack Cosmic is creating is mountain high vs what some designers could do to quickly enhance cosmic. The fact that what exists does is such a short amount of time is ridiculous. That team is basically spearheading the rust GUI wave fixing big issues that like every other rust toolkit is using like comsic-text. There's so much on the horizon.

[@pipeliner8969]

Mozilla f**king up again, such a shame

[@andresstreetpunk]

As The Cure song: again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again

[@Bareego]

As much as I would feel bad for anyone having cancer and needing treatment, and not lose employment, that guy was a highly paid top manager, it's not like he's poor. And with nor liver cancer treatment coming up I'd take the golden parachute and concentrate on my health. Liver cancer, after having had cancer somewhere else, is often a sign that metastases have been traveling through the blood stream. They often end up in the liver as it filters the blood. Still, mozilla seems to be heading the wrong way for a while now, their leaders keep getting more and more raises to their already ample pay.

[@sergentboucherie]

Just tried Wayland, again, on Garuda Linux KDE Plasma, no major problems so far and games are finally playable. My PC is a Ryzen 5059X with a 4080 Super

[@GustavoBhr]

Good to know. Using garuda gnome x11 right now on a 4060. is garuda-update doing its work to 555 or is it necessary to install it manually?

[@sergentboucherie]

@@GustavoBhr It updated automatically to 555, one thing though is that there are a lot less options in the Nvidia settings, I will have to check if it is doing that in X11

[@GustavoBhr]

@@sergentboucherie Thanks! It's not driver related. nvidia-settings "lite version" is a fact in wayland so far, comparing to its X11 counterpart unfortunately.

[@shApYT]

I don't need cosmic to be new. I want it to be Gnome with the pragmatism of kde.

[@luc1ddaemon]

With Mozilla having issues, and Google screwing with Chrome, whats alternatives are out there?

[@georgeindestructible]

If NGreedia manages to have more stable drives in Linux compared to AMD, at any point in time i will face palm myself so hard...

[@the-answer-is-42]

Mozilla has an easy job to have my support, but this news does make me worry about the future. Will wait and see how it develops. Hopefully it turns out this isn't true.

[@hunnybon]

What some don't seem to understand is that Steam recording is kind of a game changer for Linux, yeah, you could use OBS with some community plugin for what is essentially shadowplay mimicry, but the UX of just pressing a key combo, having that be out of the box? Now that's peak.

[@ihateyougoog1elol]

There's also GPU Screen Recorder which is much more performant and convenient than OBS. For the moment it's probably still the best option as Steam lacks important options (you can't choose to save a section of video without going into the editor and clipping it, so unless you set a 2 hour long buffer or something you pretty much have to open the editor then and there if you don't want to lose the moment you wanted to record), but hopefully Steam will get a "permanently save raw" hotkey or a "clip last X seconds" one. For now Steam's feature has the advantages of controller combos instead of just keyboard ones as well as being tightly integrated, making clips easy to share.

[@BrettMoore66]

Hey, can you find a solution for laptop mice ? Windows has the single finger double tap that locks the left mouse button down and allows scroll at the same time. Linux drivers in every version I have looked at does not allow this. Have to hold a left click and somehow drag. Two and three fingers are supported but these are no good for dragging or moving files, and two fingers often zooms in or out instead.

[@NatesRandomVideo]

Mozilla is a mess. And the Linux Foundation now spends less than 3% of their revenues on … actual Linux projects… Sad when one realizes that number includes $1M/year for Linus.

[@Dungeonseeker1uk]

I've been running 555 all day on my hybrid laptop, no issues at all and even one bug I've had for months seems to be totally fixed (when you open an app that uses HW GPU decode the mouse cursor replicates itself over the screen until the app opens). I don't game so haven't tested that at all but so far, for me at least, 555 seems to be a solid release.

[@Btomaek]

Oh no :( that the browser I use

[@MyouKyuubi]

Steam doing gigachad things again, they just don't know hyow to quit being gigachads. xD

[@happygofishing]

Mozilla "we need more deplatforming" firefox.

[@zeckma]

happygofishing spotted

[@happygofishing]

@@zeckma zeckma spotted!

[@FlorinArjocu]

With the combination Wayland+Gnome having such a poor window management, it is gonna be a hell to use some programs if X11 will be deprecated, they will show up in random places on the screen. This will affect especially professionals as many of them use multi-window programs and/or multiple screens.

[@novaTopFlex]

I am scared of the deprecation of X11 as I am a loyal user of Openbox, JWM, and more simple window managers to enable for even more customization. If and when X11 becomes deprecated, more bloat will be forced within the Linux community thus "dumbing down" such systems indeed.

[@dingusbringus74]

Of course Mozilla pulls some bullshit as soon as I switch to Firefox. Is IceWeasel still a thing?

[@kentahirono]

Maybe it's the time to fork firefox and make an useful and modern FOSS browser?

[@ToanNguyen-ue8rw]

There're already some: floorp, libreworf,...

[@kentahirono]

@@ToanNguyen-ue8rw but those aren't new browsers, only customized

[@jahinzee]

@@kentahirono Those are forks of Firefox, and Floorp as a project is new

[@_boux]

learning about the system76 sale on this video just made me finally buy a laptop from them, this guy's giving free advertisement for tuxedo's competitors 😃

[@novaTopFlex]

Of the two companies, System76, the American company, is the only one to serve the United States.

[@collectorguy3919]

Regarding Mozilla: Europeans will be horrified. In the United States, most employees have 12 weeks job protected unpaid leave under FMLA (Family and Medical Leave Act). He was on leave Nov, Dec, Jan, and returned on Feb 1, so it's gone. Without getting into state law, they can terminate him legally. It looks crass to offer a 40% pay cut demotion, but it's actually generous by American standards so he still has a job to cover medical bills and income for essentials.

[@bobmcbob4399]

Wierd, I was led to believe that 'Merica was the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.

[@Kneedragon1962]

9 minutes ~ gnome without X ~ I'm not locked into a love of X. I use and like the Mate environment very much. I believe they are working on getting it to run on Wayland, but their efforts are a little slower than some other environment teams. Mate don't have anything like the resources of gnome. As long as Mate 1.28 or Mate 1.30 or something runs on Wayland, the same way it runs on X, then I'm happy. I can see the benefits of moving off a code base which is 30 years old. Let's start again and not leave quite so many possible security holes in it, and work towards modern hardware and modern software principles and stuff. Maybe add support for Rust? Just a thought ~ I guess I lean towards Wayland, but all I really care about is that Mate continues to work. At this point I'm on an i7-6700 + nVidia card, but some time around Christmas I plan to write a Dear Santa letter and get a Zen 5 Ryzen 9 rig with a low end Radian card in it. So in the short term, getting along with nVidia matters to me, but into the mid term, not so much.

[@novaTopFlex]

Wayland is not the solution to these problems, I would like to retain access to simpler X11 window managers that require significantly more lines of computer code to be implemented in Wayland, and I am afraid that Wayland is a bloated solution. With all of these issues I sometimes threaten to switch away from the Linux GUI and only use the TTY (tele-typewriter) interface on my system, better known as the command line interface or its abbreviation CLI.

[@Kneedragon1962]

@@novaTopFlex ~ Ok. I can't fault you there. I'm not 100% sure what the need for Wayland is, or what problems it solves. My understanding, what I read, was the old code-base for the X-stack, is just ancient code, and maintaining it is becoming a nightmare. It has hundreds of potential holes in it from a security stand-point, as one example. We just don't write code like that any more. If you go back to Ken Thompson and The C Language you also see a lot of code which is kinda elegant and cool, but we just don't write code that way any more. Fixing and updating it would be an absolute nightmare. Ok ~ So the reason for Rust is because it's a little bit baulky to write and work with, and the development kit and delivery are a tiny bit more complicated, but it is memory-safe by definition. It just completely eliminates exactly the sort of bugs and issues that plague the X-server system. Hence my mild suggestion that the whole thing should perhaps be rewritten in Rust. [chuckle] I'm not sure I've ever heard anybody describe the X-server system as simple. I grant you, Wayland's not simple either, but it doesn't try to do client + server computing like dumb Wysse terminals in a 1980 library on a Unix box, with 60 people searching the brand new original Larry Ellison / ORACLE library cattle-dog. I mean ~ we just don't build computers or computer systems that way any more. Taking that and adapting it as the 'graphics system' for all UNIX like computers... If you started from scratch today, I don't think you'd do it that way. That's the whole point of Wayland. Let's start again today and not write this like we were in 1975. Let's try not to leave hundreds of potential levers and triggers and opportunities here for script-kiddies to figure out. I'm not a cheerleader for Wayland, that's just my understanding of what it's all about. The X system is just ancient. It was written in a different time, to fix a different problem.

[@ss-xy2im]

With x11 being consigned to history how will people who used rdp (x11vnc over ssh) get around accessing their remote desktops???

[@novaTopFlex]

I use VNC to record my Linux videos, so abandoning X11 means giving up my channel.

[@mihairomulus2488]

time to try Firefox forks ig

[@bobbybyrne1899]

Regarding Cosmic, it's an alpha release. Expecting it to be polished, feature complete, and/or bug free is not an alpha. That being said ive been running it without any other DE to fall back on for over a month on my framework laptop. It's no where near gnome as far as features and polish, but thats not why people are excited. Its a new player in the game, it's a new tech stack that developers love, it's a team that's more welcoming for new contributors, it's free of legacy baggage, and it seems to be bridging the gap between tiling window manager and desktop environment which feels like it could be the best of both worlds.

[@rollinglounge]

Updated to NVIDIA 555 and with Wayland I'm having the smoothest computing experience I ever had, way better than X11 (in my experience)

[@hi2chan]

Mate,cinnamon and xfce are still on x11

[@novaTopFlex]

And window managers that are not full DEs are still on X11 as well. These include the desktop interfaces most appropriate for use with Virtual Network Computing (VNC).

[@safsaf99]

I hope the firmware patch fix the throttling issues on my cpu

[@ucmRich]

Hey Nick, why does some ppl hate on x11 and want wayland? can you do a video highlighting the chief reasons why ppl are hating on x11 and why they want wayland? I just dont understand.....

[@Marcos_Tired]

At this point, I think I still use Firefox (libre Wolf, but they depend on Firefox) juts because of my sole hate twords chrome, because there's no real reason anymore. Fight against monopoly? Heh, No one believes in such dreams anymore.

[@gabrielkorytiak]

One interesting thing nvidia did is smaller download package previosly nvidia driver download was around 600 - 700 megabytes when doing clean install or upgrade and now with nvidia driver 555 its only 350 MB. Thanks nvidia !

[@LJ-fe8vb]

I find myself trying linux about once a year. I want it to be great, i want it to be perfect, i want to ditch windows. Hope this driver will make it possible full time. I have found that Gta iv on pc is too buggy and laggy to work properly. I tried countless fixes and commandlines on windows, however the game broke in loading screens on some missions, causing the story to be unplayable. Tried it on linux with proton some years ago, it was perfect. Smooth as butter, better fps, no bugs, all missions worked perfect. Goes to show how great Linux can be. Even with a translation layer such as proton, running a notoriously bad console port made for windows, it still works wayy better than the os it was made for. That blew my mind at the time. It is great to see what a community can do, when they all work together. In this case it keeps my childhood favorite game alive.

[@JoelPeltonen]

Is there *any* usable non-chrome browser? Ladybird is still far from production-ready. I don't want to use Firefox any more, this is grim

[@clintquasar]

Again Mozilla?

[@TitouFromMars]

I lost all esteem for mozilla when I discovered their budget and the ridiculous share actually used for Firefox development. Mozilla has turned into an activist organization that deals with American politics. I don't necessarily disagree with the progressive ideas they defend, but it has nothing to do with technology.

[@nathanb011]

I feel like the whole Wayland switch is going way too fast. Wayland is still very buggy and having that as the default will make Linux extremely difficult for beginners.

[@joshmc5882]

The Mozilla thing was a coup, watch Lunduke's video on it. Mozilla board tried to push out the heir apparent to CEO and installed their own candidate, then went out and bought an advertising company and look like they're about to merge it into the browser.

[@duncan-mcrae]

Very welcome nvidia wayland update. Just updated and the keyboard and mouse freezers has been fixed.

[@Daniel_VolumeDown]

Was there backlash when Laura started working as CEO on mozilla because she don;t have technical skills?

[@renebuchkremer9522]

OpenAI just brought a former director of a famous 3 letter agency of the US to its board of directors, but please show us more content of your sponsor about how rus & chn use it for propaganda, Mr. Open source Guy

[@rhysmuir]

I wonder if NVIDIA recently driver updates have anything to do with the device they are rumoured to be releasing with mediatek

[@MelodicMethod]

thanks for toughing it out with the flu. hope you feel better real soon

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thanks!

[@bobmcbob4399]

yeah, man-covid doesn't sound as nice. Hail Flu, a return to old normal!

[@justahumanwithamask4089]

Mozilla management making the worst decisions possible, what's new?

[@TheVincentKyle]

The NVIDIA Wayland news is great news...assuming your desktop boots after installing the kernel driver (hi, Fedora KDE!)

[@DCM777.]

Arch does boot but shows only 1 screen after the Nvidia-555 update!

[@Tarodenaro]

I know this is very stereotypical, but why is it so Californian in the nutshell when they replace Bigots with Idiots?

[@TechnoMinded-qp5in]

Someone needs to do something about this I am debating on going back to Opera it's pitiful how it doesn't matter what Browser you use the companies will always be airheads we need more browsers not based on Firefox or Chrome someone needs to bring a new kid on the streets to combat these clowns.

[@captainheinsight]

Well rest assured this is definitely not just a further attempt by ominous third parties. To force people to use some variety of chrome. Or to corrupt Firefox in the same manner.

[@ronm6585]

Thank you. 👍🏻

[@user78405]

man nvidia is way ahead of amd in driver features ...amd lack everything i know so far...

[@szmonszmon]

There is new InfinityBook Pro from Tuxedo! 🙂

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Yeah, I should get a review unit in August :)

[@Kinos141]

Remember, people, no company is worth your integrity.

[@FredPilcher]

>:( That's it for Mozilla for me, Bye bye,

[@virtheon]

Discrimination? At a tech company? Impossible

[@BillyNoMates1974]

Nick, I just swapped over to Tuxedo OS after a long time user of Elementary Os and Deepin. Love it and the power profiles. Now I am thinking of buying a new Tuxedo Laptop once they release a Snapdragon X elite. Tuxedo say they are waiting for Qualcom to up port the kernal support to Linux devs then they can release

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Yeah, this will probably be out at the end of 2024, early 2025, I think!

[@xrafter]

How about wait for AMDs strix AI 300 laptops? SnapDragX has terrible GPU

[@BillyNoMates1974]

@@xrafter the GPU only matters for Gaming or CAD design. most other people dont need it your average GFX usage doesnt place that much demand

[@xrafter]

@@BillyNoMates1974 Those laptops might give better value tho than Snapdragon X

[@pixl3ros3]

Hearing about the Mozilla thing makes me so f****** glad that I stopped using all Missoula products and services Cincinnati user as it is I decided to just say fuck it and start using Falcon as my primary browser it is realistically the only problem I have with Falcon is its lack of DRM support but that's not necessarily kde's fault because KDE wants to keep the browser 100% open source and DRM is not open source so I've sent switched to using Falcon and and the chromium web browser for any DRM content that I need like Hulu Netflix Disney plus and all that kind of crap

[@DCM777.]

Falkon.

[@porterhouse937]

Brother dude, two sponsored messages per video is kind of unheard of.

[@shadowwolfmandan]

Yeah seriously never put a woman in charge.

[@truko22]

Gracias por las noticias

[@tamodolo]

Yeah, this nvidia driver fixed (I think) BSOD at login when there is no screen at position 0,0. Gamescope now works more than 5 minutes but HDR is wrong as colors are washed and exposure is too high. I think nvidia drivers have a way to go before completly usable.

[@f1nger605]

I used to have big problems with glitches and latency when running Wayland on my Nvidia card, but now I don't. It's a pretty simple fix, actually. Just sell the Nvidia card and buy an AMD. Works like a charm.

[@sandeepvk]

i don't trust cosmic anymore, I might still use it but seriously they are not a serious player

[@mmstick]

Cool story bro

[@SirWaffleGaming]

There's a lot of interesting things happening with GNOME 47 that makes me want to switch to it. Hdr support, Wayland enhancements, and DRM leasing for VR headsets are all khamin GNOME.

[@amigaworkbench720]

I'm constantly being discriminated and no one gives a fuck. Can I sue everyone?

[@bobmcbob4399]

Same here, metoo