Discussing All The Footage From Gamescom | Monster Hunter Wilds

[@0ceanking]

a small note, the 3 shots to the right of the wyvernblast mine on LBG are not counter mines, they're the ammo for the L2+R1 focus blast:eagle strike which is meant for targeting monster wounds and deals a ton of damage, seemingly no counter required.

[@tendrax]

Really appreciate you making this video. As a gunner I've been kind of disappointed that no one seems to have any interest in it, even though a lot has changed.

[@mkv2718]

yeah, because none of these changes are flashy, so no omega cares right now. 😕

[@zaguldo]

Normal and Spread changes are interesting. Mabye Normal will actually feel like it's own thing instead of just worse Spread now.

[@Phoenix-sc6di]

Seems to just work Like Normal Level 3's from Gen4 now. Ricochet Style shots, can get multihits on monsters if you shoot through head into wingtips and such

[@exo-t07]

Really hope so. The gameplay for lbg actually looks fun and it would be boring to play it again just to use spread for the millionth time lol

[@Tundra_00]

"You can see there are some infinity marks here on the normal, pierce and spread ammo, this is common to both the HBG and LBG, they are not indefinitely usable and they are actually on a gauge instead" --> This is what Patrick Shields translated from Yuya Tokuda. I am almost 100% sure, that Yuya Tokuda confused the infinite ammo with the new Trickshot-system from the bow. The description matches exactly how it works.

[@TheRealkillkillerBR]

that line felt weird to me too, i tought he was talking about the focus mode ammo and just mistranslated

[@ZorillaMyrid181]

Hopefully that's the case, infinite ammo is concerning to me, I feel like that's TOO streamlined considering that's part of the weapon's gimmick; gathering resources for your ammo

[@cashandraven2369]

@@ZorillaMyrid181 I think it's fine for the RAW ammo types honestly. Having to constantly maintain a stockpile of something is honestly pointless. The only time it will matter is early game, after a few dozen hours you'll have essentially infinite anyway.

[@drinknaclo]

Yo thanks for this analysis! I wanna point out that the control guide for HBG states that the focus ammo can also be used as an offset attack if you press triangle while in Ignition mode, which gives HBG a plethora of defensive options. We may be able to stay in the monster’s face the entire hunt without getting hurt

[@Vyo1983]

Does this even have to do anything with focus mode? I thought the wyverncounter might be the big cross shape explosive thing we saw in the hbg trailer at the 38 second mark. But I could be wrong, never saw that move again outside the trailer and hope its a thing.

[@drinknaclo]

@@Vyo1983 that is actually the same attack yes. It seems to expend focus ammo based on the animation and the fact that it requires ignition mode to be active

[@randomd00d19]

Great analysis as always. I saw something interesting at the very end that has interesting implications for status fanatics like myself. 12:41: -First off: confirmation we got statuses. (Shouldn't be surprising, but we got new gameplay systems that allow us to stagger monsters almost at will, so other things that can control the pace of the battle COULD be affected for bAlAnCiNg purposes) -Secondly: poison ticks are pretty high damage for this stage of the game and ticks very fast. Hoping the other statuses are strong like that. It's got me thinking about how they might work from a meta perspective. For gunners there could be a reason to cycle in all the statuses at some point in the hunt, and for other weapons we can have 2 different status weapons, switching one out after the first 2-3 procs and go for another one. I'm thinking stun then sleep bombing for locking down a monster vs 3-4 procs of blast (good starting burst damage and part breaking) and then switching to poison for pure status damage.

[@ferinzz]

The big question when it comes to status is whether it's worth the ammo space and mod values to use them. Hoping buildup is different and we can do what you're saying. It's what I'm hoping for as well considering we'll be able to use the rapid fire gauge on status ammo. Rapid exhaust+paralyse are always great for a fight. BUT the real question is how much time do you have to spend scavenging mushrooms...

[@piercingrain8809]

I think the normals aren't piercing. They're ricocheting like Normal ammo in GU/XX,

[@cdchai]

Gunning is changing! Can't wait for the demo a couple months from now.

[@Cheesy_Pm]

Ty for Great analysis as always Can't wait to sse you play demo👍👍

[@TheTorrence11]

ayyyyyy looking forward to your wilds build

[@ShakerGER]

Thank you for this video; many new infos I haven't found anohter place for

[@GoToBedSheeva]

Spread ammo 1 shoots 5 shots now. If we’re getting +1 per upgrade then we’re going back to a 7 shot spread. Raw pierce really dominated rise ticking 7 time in one hitzone so I hope they give us back a certain level of power for playing upclose if they’re going that route.

[@HotWheels1776]

Ireally hope so. Some of my favorite HBG builds throughout the series have been high risk high reward spread builds

[@3rdAgeSoap]

Man. I was a bowgun main in Worlds because it felt amazing with the updated camera control on console, and now Bow is reeling me in. Wilds just looks absolutely phenomenal right now

[@thepurgz6323]

Couldn’t wait for your comments on the info!

[@CreatureOfH4bit]

I'm definitely running hunting horn/Lbg. They gonna go so well together

[@uramaki6580]

Same! 😎

[@LocoMotion99]

My buddy that I play with is a HH main and i main LBG, can confirm the “support weapon” duo is unmatched.

[@ErdingerLi]

Look how far we've come! We started with stuffing things like nuts/fish into bone husks of different sizes to make ammo!

[@Phoenix-sc6di]

I think I might miss that a bit tbh

[@rekio6102]

Hey Phem, you might want to check on the elemental ammo (pierce) from what i heard thunder ammo got a rework and now it just explodes upon contact dealing multiple hits. I might be wrong on this one. Great video and im glad too see you back making video.

[@LeagueOfShifty]

The infinite raw ammo makes the bowguns more accessible in the early game, but I liked having to collect resources and setup my quick crafting bars for ammo crafting mid fight. I know the elemental ammo types still require crafting, but Raw has usually performed better in most cases. I hope this doesn't make the weapon class too boring. Still looking forward to it though. Gunner for life!

[@UnkemptHerald]

Feel so validated with Normal being rapid fire always due to a rework. But the discovery of rapid fire energy not giving rapid fire to every ammo type is super depressing Normal ammo might be meta on lbg tbh.

[@AxiamWolfe]

The other Wyverncounter explosive stake is the HBG’s designated “offset” move. So like the GS and SA Offset Upswing, timing this attack with a monster’s attack will parry and topple the monster. For the melee options they get a follow-up slinger gap closer combo. Not sure what HBG gets.

[@Vyo1983]

Maybe HBG doesn't need any followup, creating distance to the monster, to be able to shoot again, might be enough to be honest.

[@ManlyPicnics]

With the ammo changes, it is far more viable to run BGs off the rip, and not have to spend forever grinding materials or zenny for meaningful ammo. So that's a nice plus, I always waited until endgame to run BGs because by then I had more than enough resources and zenny to buy/craft ammo for my hunts.

[@deadeyedun]

thanks for the breakdown

[@sacredterrador5611]

As a HBG main, I’m honestly loving the sounds of these changes.

[@Balfourism]

I used to main HBG in World... But with How amazing all the other weapons are looking the Bowguns are looking lackluster... especially in comparison to even just the bow...the Bow is looking amazing....

[@TheUltimateRey]

Can you change ammo types for HBG or LGB while you are on your mount? I wonder if you can mitigate the limited mobility of a HBG by just shooting from your Seikret and if that could possibly be a viable strategy that would be crazy

[@mkv2718]

oh thank GOD power coat is infinite. knew there was gonna be a LOT more to the Bowguns than what the demo vids showed us

[@ryot69420]

Now that we can swap between 2 weapons, im sure they will add more deco slots to weapons in general

[@DrJiveTurkey]

Kind of concerned about the mod system on bowguns. One thing I really liked about Rise was the shifting of gun attributes from mods to skills (like ballistics, reload, recoil). I didn't mind sacrificing a bit of DPS for those skills. And it made a few more bowguns viable. But if this is a World-like mod system, I feel like it'll run into the same issue as World where only a handful of guns were usable, especially if limited to 2 mods. Really hope that's not the case. My favorite part of the bowguns are how modular the builds can be. Wish more people actually looked at bowgun attributes during gamescom

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

Im happy that hbg kept side stepping, even if it may only be one at a time. Maybe the shield is permanent now because the Tackle in rise was just too useful. 😅

[@BragoTHEgraviyKING]

Im VERY curious on exactly how normal shot peirce will work. If it' on a per monster basis, itll be a simple Qol change. Minion jumps in front? Doesnt matter. If it reactivates its hitbox when it leaves a body part and can hit the same monster again if it re-enters, it might be quite nice depending on the monster

[@thatasianwaiter4559]

Im wondering if normal shots for hbg are gonna be able to bounce like in generations where a lvl 3 ammo can bounce multiple times against elder dragons 😂

[@mekudu-man3804]

What about the option to switch weapons mid-fight. Wouldn't that give a lot of possibilities now?

[@DraxtOs]

The recharge system was ment for the special ammo i believe. Btw what are moon shots?

[@Cha0s13erry]

Wait, so dash dancing does not maintain max charge anymore? Idk how to feel about that, but with all the new stuff so far, I'll keep an open mind

[@Cloudy573]

These bow changes sound great to me, I was never a huge fan of dash dancing or having to worry about inventory management for coatings.

[@gab93]

Can you give us a hot take about pc specs of MH Wilds?

[@yasinachekzai2567]

Man, I love the infinite and streamlined ammo system. Really looking forward to a less finicky gunning experience. I am especially interested in the HBG, as I actually prefer the more grounded gameplay. I don't like weapons that have too many gimmicks to keep in mind. Edit: Also, any details on mounted archery/gunning? I feel like no weapon benefits more from added mobility than the HBG, so I am curious to learn what the downsides are.

[@skullwolff9442]

only specual ammo is on a recharge, like sticky and cluster. normal 2 is infinite, you can get lvl 3, but you need to use the specual loader, wich will recharge, that is for your burst. elemantal needs to be crafted, and will take inventory slots. i beleave they did this so they didn't have to nerf them again, like in world, that realy sucked, slicer and sticky nerfs, with later cluster joining.

[@UVAmatsuo]

Does the HBG still have the Charge from Rise?

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

From the looks of it, it is not present.

[@ZeeCH_Music]

RIP Shrapnel Ammo.

[@william_sun]

3:03 The ammo labeled "Paint/tranq?" is Tranq Ammo.

[@doodlebop921]

I’m new to MH, just started MHW.. seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I hate damage numbers. It’s literally my only gripe with these types of games. Especially this one, this will be an amazing title I think.

[@elizabethhicks4181]

You can turn damage numbers off in the options. That was present in World and Rose so I see no reason they wouldn’t have that option in Wilds. As an old school hunter from before damage numbers were a thing, I also turn them off.

[@TheShezarrine]

Man we need that demo asap. I can't wait to get my mitts on the bgs.

[@TocnaelStarcraft]

did you get in on the beta?

[@waitbalthy6342]

Thank GOD they got rid of fatroll. Looks like i'll be using hbg again

[@futuremcguives1471]

I want Adept LBG and Aerial LBG. I'm reasonably BORED of World's point and shoot gameplay and hope Wilds LBG takes more notes from Sunbreak/Generations style of LBG and gives us flashy and mobile gunning

[@nickenchugger]

I'm not a fan of the idea of HBG without removable shield mods and a faster roll. I like fatrolling with evade window in world, it makes the weapon feel heavy and is kinda necessary for balance.

[@NoOne4k]

​​@rathalomaniac6212 Same. I played World. Did everything on Bow, HBG Im just finishing Sunbreak right now and HBG is just to hard for alot of high tier anomaly monsters. The only monster im missing is risen shagaru magala (i know its not the correct order but i dont have the Master Rank yet) and my sets barely start to feel good to play on HBG

[@joji_tek]

i dont like shields and i definitely dont like fatrolling. World Hbg kinda balances this by making hbg either tank hits with shield or rely on stagger locking setups to deal with aggressive monsters which i am not a fan of, old hbg has better interactions with the monster because rolling isn't detrimental to the experience.

[@exo-t07]

So you didn't like fat roll, u liked I framing?

[@VadeInSpiritu]

Bow looks OP now. Bowgun looks mostly the same with some changes to the finer details. I was really hoping for some super cool new ammo types that would require crafting from various gathered materials. I’m thinking I may try GS and bow as my main 2 weapon combo

[@ShakerGER]

The saddest hting about hte meleee surely is that it was REALLY strong in worlds; I soloed monster melee only from time to time for funsies.

[@gmoddude12]

oh thank fuck we dont have to think about what level ammo a gun can shot and the make sure we bring the right one if the ammo level is just automatically based on the gun you use that is gonna make it much simpler of just have a bunch of useful ammo in your pocket and use whichever one is best for the weapon i hated swapping out ammo levels that a certain bowgun could not use just so it would not take up twice the damn space XD

[@unwashedhands2087]

Gotta admit, hunting horn looked pretty good in the trailer.

[@markos50100]

You can just load the coatings while you wait for stamina to recharge. And probably have new skills for it too. Bow is looking great.

[@Terminarch]

Huh. One of my favorite silly builds is "50cal vs dragon". Amping up hbg normal 3s like anti-tank rounds and just relentlessly nailing those weakspots from any range with deadly precision, no gimmicks. That leaves a lot of room for comfort skills, including guard buffs. Kinda looks like that's impossible now which is unfortunate... rather hate (forced) burst fire.

[@geminixz2872]

that nice infinite raw ammo!

[@ShakalakaKing]

They gonna nerf that bow dodge.

[@aninymouse1651]

Don't put that on us!!

[@12463trf]

Hoping to main hbg this gen. But ill have to see if its as fun to play as it is to watch explosions.

[@xeroze01]

Nothing much to say here, commenting to help the algo haha.

[@Knights_of_the_Nine]

Sad to see every gun has 20 fucking ammos to shoot out of it (even though were probably still going to just shoot ONE) but at least they made the main ammos infinite and got rid of the stupid ammo levels.

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

Oh there's definitely still ammo levels... It's just that the level is adjusted per gun.

[@Doron488]

Disappointed that Wilds gunning is looking more like World and less like Sunbreak. World gunning was so braindead and monotonous. Maybe they'll surprise us and reveal a crouching shot/siege mode option like GU/Sunbreak.

[@swift-pawedteif386]

Yep

[@SenseiChaos]

I just wanna know if I can load up on spare shot and spam sticky ammo again 😂

[@TheLloydLightning]

Possibly but they nerfed spare shot in rise and I don't see them getting back on that. Also need to see how crafting is going with so much less ammo to craft up

[@SenseiChaos]

Oh really? I never got around to sunbreak so maybe I missed that. I had never even used sticky ammo before world and icebourne but now im addicted!😂

[@cathd5675]

Bro ain’t no hbg mains carting lol

[@JohnSmith-tg5li]

Not really a fan of infinite base ammos without levels. Just kinda takes out knowing anything of the map, or any management of crafting. Just kinda rubbish and moving away from old MH too much. Don't get why it changed, shouldn't have changed. Don't like changing the evade, looks like it will feel flimsy. Not good. Mobility shouldn't be a factor of HBG. If it can block in any direction, this game's going to end up just as boring as Rise for HBG.

[@1234numbers]

"Bow is looking great, just a little tweak to the playstyle from World, no more lvl 4 charge spamming. Otherwise It looks like a solid playstyle minus the craft that we have to re-apply coatings every 8 shots, thats going to be annoying." How many uses have you with the bow on world? 600? 100? NOOB. wilds bow is trash. Oh nvm you are noob have fun with the tracking system...

[@superduperkid3143]

The interface is trash. Looks like it could be on switch.