Discussion on Critical Faculty Podcast Featuring Aron Ra (Debunking Creationism)

[@muriyamajin7095]

the most mind blowing fact about this video was that there was a parrot pretending to be a cat

[@TestSubject14]

I'm losing my mind

[@auskiwimic8624]

I actually went hunting for both my cats, I thought they were trapped in a room somewhere. 😂

[@mondschattenpflanze]

maybe he does not pretend... maybe he is a missing link (just kidding of course) ^^

[@docbones213]

Yup. Trolled. I'm up looking around the house for a cat. I don't have a fuckin' cat.

[@obiwanpez]

Creationists, probably: “checkmate, atheists!”

[@hrh4961]

In time, Christian Mythology will take its place alongside Greek Mythology, Norse Mythology, Egyptian Mythology, Roman Mythology, Chinese Mythology, Sumerian Mythology, etc, etc.

[@midlander4]

@MVP you're scarcely literate. What point are you trying to make?

[@secularidiot9052]

Christian Mythology is based on Canaanite Mythology which is based on Mesopotamian Mythology. The Christian creation god "Elohim" is based on the Canaanite creation god "El", which is based on the Mesopotamian creation god "Enki". Yahweh is also a direct link to the Canaanite pantheon, as Yahweh is the Canaanite god of metallurgy. The most likely thing to have happened is that after Egypt fled Canaan following the Bronze Age Collapse, the kingdoms of Israel and Judah arose. The kingdom of Israel eventually fell, and Judah writers compiled together the Torah not only as their creation myth, but also as a suggestion of what to do: to conquer the north, just like how Joshua and David did in their stories. The plan obviously failed, but it's interesting to view the Old Testament through the eyes of a Judah nationalist and see the exact message they were trying to send. TL;DR: The Old Testament is nationalist propaganda meant to entice the leaders of the ancient Kingdom of Judah to take over Canaan.

[@guaranagaucho3071]

@@secularidiot9052 in university I took a literature class on the new testament , thank you for inspiring me to look into the historical context of the old testament!Cheers

[@bororobo3805]

It already is. It's just that it was the last mythology to spread out and has stuck out this long.

[@Purifiedbyfire420]

​@@secularidiot9052bro I let out one of them joe Rogan "whoa"'s when I read this😂😂😂...that's actually deeper than I have ever looked into Christianity. 👍

[@dreamworld3319]

I wanted to take a moment to really thank you Prof Dave and AronRa. I used to be a creationist and even when I dropped those beliefs, the thought that there might still be a God haunted me, I couldn't live in peace. And it was Dave's video where he totally destroys Kent Hovind that really sealed the deal for me, since then on, God and religion as a whole have faded from my life. So thank you, Professor Dave!

[@hankboog462]

I've been an atheist for 5 years, I wholeheartedly believe there is no God, no heaven, no hell, nothing, and I still sometimes worry that I'm wrong. Religion can really catch you in a fear-of-mortality snare, even though I literally don't want to live forever. It's messed up

[@dreamworld3319]

@NPC even if there is a God or higher power, if he isn't actively interfering in human affairs, he's as good as irrelevant to us, and we to him.

[@asagoldsmith3328]

@NPC How many religious claims have to be debunked for it to lose any credibility? Every falsifiable claim religions have ever made have been shown to be pure poppycock. "But don't count God out just yet!!!"

[@user-wu6qb2xl1c]

Doesn’t have to be no god for science to be valid

[@zacheryeckard3051]

@@user-wu6qb2xl1c But it does mean certain conceptions of God will not be valid.

[@LauraPFan]

Waiting for Kirk Cameron to start holding up a picture of a Parrocat.

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

You have to circumvent the rational mind.

[@Icarus8426]

29:29 🐱 🦜 parrot evolved into a cat quite convincingly… fooled me and made me laugh 😆… good stuff

[@thehermitthetower1126]

Parrocat?

[@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493]

A parrocat peeling a banana.

[@aue82a]

@@thehermitthetower1126 a "Rap Carrot"

[@Ichiro_Kinosita]

When i hear "SPECTROSCOPY" i immediately think "CONTAINER" now, thanks Dave :D

[@korpsofkreig1359]

Well I mean spectroscopy does happen in a container 😅

[@deviouskris3012]

@@shi117 definitely thank DITRH for that. If he didn’t make that idiotic statement. Dave couldn’t have mocked him.

[@JustyMe]

@@korpsofkreig1359 if you mean the sample has to be in a container that's not true, there are different types of spectroscopy that don't need it.

[@korpsofkreig1359]

@@JustyMe it was in his debate with a flat earther bud.

[@JustyMe]

@@korpsofkreig1359 oh, yeah, I actually saw it. But I thought you are referring to actual method now. All good then 👌

[@hocinelastrophile1756]

It's funny that Aron's parrot was so relevant when trying to evolve into a cat. 29:30

[@joegeorge3889]

I wonder if he feeds him cat food

[@daswasich1147]

@@joegeorge3889 if the parrot identifies as a cat, then it logically follows that everything it eats is, in fact, cat food. Checkmate, Atheist!

[@michael_zaki6903]

Spectroscopy needs to be in a container.

[@eatbliss8895]

No, that was only when we thought the ocean bulged out in the middle. Now we can go container less and Spectroscope wherever we have the urge, thank god!

[@mactallica9293]

That Dawkins interview was hilarious. He has to ask her the same question 4 different times about transitional fossils and she finally responds and says well I haven't seen it in the museums I went to

[@almalain1980]

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[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Yeah, she is a dense one for sure! You could see her fighting rational thought with her entire strength! She probably lost 25 pounds trying to argue for her faith with Dawkins.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@felicityc Please don't! You are way better off exercising, both body and mind. The brain burns a lot of energy! Her brain probably doesn't for sheer lack of use!

[@arsenic1987]

1:00:45 - You missed a fantastic joke there. Hehe. "I used to have a pet parrot, until one day it thought it was a cat".

[@totalyrandomh2o]

I Didnt know who Aron Ra was before googling him just now, but I mistakenly thought he was going to be a creationist. When he started talking, i listened for a good two or three minutes, hearing him explain the "Definition" of the Theory and Hypothesis I found myself thinking: " Man, this guy is DEEPLY understanding of the Scientific method, how is he gonna do a 180 and preach the bible after this." And luckily, he didnt.

[@midlander4]

@MVP which god are you talking about? Allah?

[@eaglebauer944]

@MVP can you prove pink unicorns don't exist?

[@thewatcher6312]

@MVP science isn't trying to prove or disprove a god. But religion is making the claim that a god exists. So where's YOUR proof that a god exists? YOU have the burden of proof not science. Provide evidence of a god without using whatever religious book you follow and without saying "well I've experienced it".

[@Seticzech]

@UCexh_77VCs3TWjgAEZZ4I0w First you prove any god actually exists and THEN we can try to find out if he/she/it/them created universe.

[@davidsmith-uw2ci]

Aron ra is awesome he is definitely worth checking out more of and sub to.

[@shmehfleh3115]

I'm sitting here watching this video through corrective lenses, because the eyes "God" gave me kinda suck. If they really were engineered, the engineer should've been fired.

[@john-r-edge]

These guys spoil us - they entertain us whilst also educating. Great discussions, thanks.

[@NobleUnclean]

truuuu

[@Mikri90]

I'd totally like this comment but it is at 69 likes right now and that's perfect so I will let someone else do that :D

[@Gremriel]

Dave and AronRa? Instant watch.

[@mungelomwaangasikateyo376]

I just recently started consuming content for Aron Ra, and I am already looking at how he thinks😊 Dave, you are a blessing to even us kids in Africa by teaching me how to think, and I have engaged with a few creation proponents, I understand the sentiment😅

[@dreamworld3319]

Let's go! Aron and Dave!? Couldn't have a better start to my morning! 😆

[@axeltroysugiarto5473]

And my night

[@bAYOTLIST.4299]

And my midnight

[@ta0soft]

parrotcat was part of the conversation too

[@kbeats5289]

Right?! Two powerhouses in the debate against, community.

[@AKaptijn94]

It's evening sir.

[@scarecrowbar3375]

So after all the talk of a monkey not giving birth to a human, the parrot turns into a cat live on stream. lol

[@almalain1980]

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[@bloo9699]

It's almost impressive that people could know something isn't true but still choose to believe it. I don't think I'm capable of that.

[@KoRntech]

You must not live in the USA because we have about 1/3 of the population believing one person is practically the new Messiah to them and even though he lost in 2020 they think he won evidence be damned they choose to believe really really hard, and when you question them with critical thinking you see them doing the mental gymnastics in their beliefs to justify their position so much so that you almost see they're in pain. But it comes down to marketing and he as well as the preachers know what sells an audience and brings in the money.

[@Bill_Bo]

A flat Earther met a PhD in social studies that thinks Earth is flat. The next day the flat Earther knows a PhD that thinks Earth is flat. A little while later he knows 10 PhD physicists that think Earth is flat. A while later he claims he knows 100 physicists that think Earth is flat. He only met that first guy and his mind did the rest.

[@bonusflaps1749]

I keep forgetting about Aron’s bird and for a second I’m looking for my cat.

[@white_isnt_a_race2338]

Scientific Theory has gone through the highest level of scientific scrutiny possible

[@heatherkuhn6559]

I want to nitpick one point. The blind spot in the vertebrate eye isn't due to the blood vessels on the inside of the retina; it's due to the neurons. The photoreceptor cells have to transmit information to the brain somehow, and they have neurons coming off them for that purpose. Since these neurons are on the inside of the retina, they come together into a bundle that passes through the retina at the blind spot.

[@entropy8634]

It's really unfortunate that neurons doesn't directly just go behind retina and thus eliminates the need for blind spot. Seems like god was procrastinating and needed to finish his eye project fast

[@Ole_CornPop]

​@entropy8634 something that doesn't exist can't have a grasp on things that do exist. If you remember back to a time before you were born then you already know what happens when we die, the end.

[@erneststyczen7071]

​@@Ole_CornPop ?

[@head_rat]

As a science educator myself I use the approach that Evolution is a fact; the theory of evolution is our best explanation of how and why evolution happens.

[@arcanefire7511]

@@lookingfortruth1930 ?

[@head_rat]

@@lookingfortruth1930 Then don't try using it as a calculator buddy! ;)

[@wasabithumbs6294]

@@lookingfortruth1930 Well if you say so then it must be true, random person

[@lfdp2023]

@@lookingfortruth1930 the big bang doesn't have anything to do with this.

[@nebtheweb8885]

@@lookingfortruth1930 said _"Big Bang Doesn't add up"_ - It's not a simple 'addition' problem.. Listen carefully. Creationism, like the BB theory, offers a model for how the universe began. But unlike the BB theory, creationism is not science, so the scientific community is very unlikely to embrace it. Its roots are in Genisis, not in the scientific method. Creationism starts with a conclusion and then attempts to amass observations to support it, discarding any that do not. Instead of worrying about "who made the BB theory, perhaps you should look into who invented the bible and its many revisions.

[@neil2242]

Awesome discussion of course. But it seem to have missed a big reason creationists resist a logical discussion of evolution. Evolution disproving a special designer/creator - disproves "original sin" - disproves the need for a "Saviour" - disproves the need for a church. There goes the big business.

[@richardlewin9282]

And there it is 🧐! Religion is a business and business used to be a booming.😇 But thanks to people like Aron and Dave the cash flow has been damaged and they're getting desprit because people are seeing that religion is a money making and control scam that's been going on for centuries 🐑🐑🍌🦖🐑🤦

[@Cheepchipsable]

Was pretty well implied in their discussion.

[@richardlawson6787]

I notice these TV preachers are multi millionaires...not only do they not believe the bible they are criminals....bilking our non intellectual countrymen Of their money..

[@mj6962]

Evolution definitely does not disprove the existence of a design or creator. lol you’re ignorant of the MANY, many beliefs and people who study Biblical events through science and vice versa. If you’re not blind or severely deceived, you’ll find many scientific facts that can support Biblical events.

[@richardlawson6787]

@@mj6962 while we can't disprove god we can't confirm it...we most certainly can disprove the entire Bible...do you believe a man(Samson)lost his strength when he received a hair cut?.

[@ifoundthisoldbook...8621]

Love the video. Also, the meowing sent me searching through my house to see if one of our cats was stuck in a closet. 🐈‍⬛🐈🐈‍⬛😄🦜

[@robbourgeois00]

I was shocked to learn that was actually the sound of a bird in the background, not a cat. I tried explaining that to my dog, but he either doesn't get it or doesn't care.

[@MrKreinen]

@Prof Dave, loved your part in this. Keep the great work coming bud:)

[@jamesfarquhar8507]

I had no idea Aron Ra was here I wouldn’t be 2 weeks late! but I don’t recall getting the notification, big fan of Professor Dave And Sir Ra.

[@4dragons632]

suffice to say anybody who "designed" the systems of any animal existing today would be laughed out of the room and put into therapy as soon as they presented their work to the class.

[@almalain1980]

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[@Tomoose736]

I love that Aron’s parrot identifies as a cat. Brilliant.

[@ta0soft]

it's just a phase the parrot will grow out of it

[@dj_tika]

@@ta0soft lol

[@myjessicajourney1915]

As a trans person who has a cockatiel whom went through a velociraptor phase, I support both of these statements.

[@dj_tika]

@@myjessicajourney1915 LoL that's cute, sometimes I think my cat identifies as a dog, but he's back and forth about it ... Maine Coons 🙄

[@myjessicajourney1915]

@@dj_tika awwwwww that's so adorable! I love Maine Coons! They're such poofy lil chonks lol.

[@jami1365]

29:54 I am someone who has a mental illness and during a certain part of the month my stress threshold gets really thin and I sometimes get paranoid I am going to just snap and start hearing things.. so I am driving and I hear the meowing and I have 5 tiny kittens that just learned how to walk yesterday and today they are being more vocal just hearing themselves and they are meowing louder and often just cuz so I hear the meowing and I turn the radio off. I tell myself it’s not that big of a deal because you are probably just thinking about the kittens and the thought is echoing in your head you aren’t hearing meowing. Then it keeps happening and no one says anything on the video so I assume it’s me still. Then I pause the radio again and listen for my breathing to see if I am wheezing. Not wheezing, and don’t hear the meowing. Then I turn the video back on determined to ignore it because I am exhausted and I have been with the kittens so much and they are so cute and I love them so I tell myself you are just remembering them and your oxytocin levels are dropping as you are away from them so this is just how your brain is choosing to deal with the deficit and it’s fine just focus on driving and finish the video and like always I say even if you are starting to hear stuff it won’t kill you so just ignore it.. Then he says “Sorry bout my PARROT!!! Lol he thinks he’s a cat! LMFAO!” Mental illness -0 My coping skills +10 Silly but I am proud of myself.

[@shadednights6870]

The winged cat in the back ground made this entire convo even better

[@D.Guitar]

I am suscribed to both these guys channels.. and it's great to have them give evidence together... Corroborating evolution

[@Mr.Finklebottom]

I was just about to ask who's cat was constantly meowing, which I also noticed sounded the same every time, then Aron addressed it was his parrot.

[@robertmartin1364]

Who needs a crocoduck when you have a parrocat? (Or I suppose catrot, but that’s not as easy to say)

[@Shady-Shane]

you could simplify it to a Carrot i suppose.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Someones kitty wants in on the conversation! One minute later: Oh dear, It's Aron's parrot playing cat! Comedy gold! (

[@davinelm1545]

54:19 Is that spectroscopy in a CoNtAiNeR though???? 😆

[@MVRocinanteGold]

Imagine how different our perception of quantum mechanics would be if Schroedinger had proposed putting Aron's Parrot in the box with the randomly activated poison gas canister.. No "uncertainty" there, the parrot is either "noisy" or "dead", and its status is never unknown.. But.. I can propose another experiment.. "Aron's Box".. Aron has two identical boxes, a cat, and a parrot. Aron puts one animal in each box, closes it up and leaves the room. Aron's spouse comes in, shakes each box, and then swaps their positions a random and undisclosed number of times, then leaves the room. A third person enters the room, having been given knowledge that one box contains a cat, and the other contains a bird which makes cat sounds. This observer hears cat sounds coming from both boxes.. and (by Schroedinger) the animal in each box is BOTH cat and bird right until the observer opens one box.. and information obtained by opening one box, determines information about the second box..

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

😂

[@herbieshine1312]

Really good conversation. Aron's cat "speaking" parrot set my 2 kittens off on a hunt for another cat making similar sounding calls 5o the parrot!

[@THIS---GUY]

I started this video Slowly became annoyed at the cat Started counting meows on my fingers Counted to mid 30s and was interrupted by the statement that I was actually counting how many times his parrot meowed 😂 I grew up around an African grey and blue and gold macaw that both knew how to bark and meow but never did it to that extent

[@Cheepchipsable]

We had a sulphur crested cockatoo, and my grandfather called out to me so often that the parrot began calling my name randomly.

[@bethmoulton6220]

Lol. And I'm cleaning a church for a funeral at midnight, maybe a little stoned. Keep pausing video to make sure I'm not being haunted by a weird cat. Only 10 mildly panicked minutes later to have Aron explain. Oh thank goodness. 🥴😀

[@philippabrealey1310]

Didn't notice the meowing till I read this comment!

[@stinkabella4218]

@@philippabrealey1310 didn't notice this thread till I'd complained about the cat.

[@netheritepotato254]

This is the best youtube content on the platform.

[@almalain1980]

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[@starkfels-diespielefestung2680]

As a Christian and theologian i'm really grateful for atheists debunking people wanting to dismiss evolution or scientific knowledge in general for religious reasons. Thanks for your work and effort.

[@LemonLadyRecords]

Yes, as an ex-Christian, I try to respect all beliefs (creationists are testing my tolerance, though), for seeking a spiritual path is natural to humans and often useful. It all goes sideways when faith tries to codify itself like science, for faith is a personally experiential phenomenon, and to me, foremost about your *relationship* to your god or messiah, not whether the Flood can be proved. When I was young, even the most conservative (outside of small, extreme sects) said that faith (or the Bible, etc) was faith and science, science. You'd think it would be moreso now, almost 70yrs and much more technology/knowledge later. But now we have democratized media, which I thought would be a good thing... so that even the most extreme can have an equal voice with scientific or other facts. Critical thinking MUST be taught in every school as a required subject.

[@niccolopaganini1782]

True! Agreed. You don't have to.

[@rippedtorn2310]

God of the ever decreasing gaps eh? I truly hope you shed the last of your beliefs in these iron age myths .

[@starkfels-diespielefestung2680]

@@rippedtorn2310 As much as i hope atheists shed their beliefs in these modern myths. Debunking a god of the gaps is a good think, believing in positivism and materialsm, or believing that science can access all aspects of reality isn't. At least most religious people are aware of the fact they hold beliefs. :)

[@rippedtorn2310]

@@starkfels-diespielefestung2680 what do you mean “ access all aspects of reality”? I think you are confused about what science is . Science is a methodology of finding out about the natural world ( the myths you have believe that there’s more than that although you have no reason to think so). Do you care if what you believe is true or not ? To be Christian means you believe a Bronze Age carpenter was born despite his mother being a virgin, he turned water into wine , cured diseases by will of his mind , resurrected a dead guy and ofc was tortured to death but then rose from the dead . This is absurd to the point of embarrassing that grown adults believe this . In this day and age . When questioned the response is typically “ well science hasn’t discovered everything…” or “ science is just a religion too “ ! It’s absolutely crazy and if I’m honest you lot freak me the fuck out !! Like how?!

[@miamidan44]

Dave, are you shutting people down, or is KZbin doing that? The question was posted about whether the universe changes that I wanted to know the answer to. But I don't see the question now. So, does the universe change?

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Does it change? What does that mean?

[@miamidan44]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains hmm...🤔

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

@@reallifelegend4781 I do not.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

@@reallifelegend4781 Again, I do not understand. Yes it changes, like in volume, and composition, and topography, things happen and move around. So of course it changes. It does not change in the sense that the fundamental properties of the universe and the laws that govern it do not change.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

@@reallifelegend4781 No, temperature is not a fundamental property. Nor size.

[@wilhelmschmidt7240]

I love the conversation, and this is definitely a subject that simply baffles me with how people misinterpret and misunderstand the colloquial version of evolution. The two things I consistently see are either an individual who simply knows nothing but outdated oversimplifications and sees that it obviously doesn't add up but also doesn't put in the work to find out what the real science is actually saying, and people who are willfully ignorant on the subject and actively misrepresenting it for their own purposes, often religiously driven. I am not a biologist by profession, only a mechanical engineer with a few years of study toward my physics PhD, however evolution seems so intuitive to me that when people try to speak against it I am just blown away by the ignorance.

[@Ave_Satani]

I've followed Aron and Dave for years, both are exceptionally intelligent beings in their respective fields, and I was not let down by this discussion. Please, let's do this again. 🤗

[@Tommy01_XO]

Great stuff as always! Do you plan on doing another video on the Discovery Institute? The Casey Luskin and Stephen Meyer debunks were beyond entertaining and very informative, I learned a lot from them both. Much love Dave

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Oh yes there will be several more.

[@Tommy01_XO]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains fuck yeah keep up the good work!

[@heatherkuhn6559]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains Be sure to read up on actual information theory before tackling Dembski. The relationship between information and entropy is not what creationists think.

[@budimanfadil1232]

@@ProfessorDaveExplainsLETSGOOOOOO

[@rashadroberts2910]

Remember guys jesus saves

[@chrisistocool1]

I'm really happy to see you working with Aron ra Dave. He's a really amazing guy and I love his work.

[@roysmallian2046]

What about the people who say, if we descended from an ape like creature by survival of the fittest why are there still apes. It seems utterly laughable that someone would say this, but there are people that actually make such comments. I personally, at earliest exposure to evolution, never thought that even as a child.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Tell them that we are apes and watch their heads explode.

[@AttilatheNun-xv6kc]

@roysmallian I'm sure you know that probably the simplest way to clarify this for those pinheads is to ask, "If most Americans are descended from Europeans, how come there are still Europeans?"

[@inthecrosshairs4480]

Parrots have impeccable timing when it comes time to being vocal.

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[@nickamarit]

A local tribe in Indonesia is evolving the ability to stay underwater for much longer than most humans can. We are still evolving!

[@daftwulli6145]

Yea of course we are, evolution never stops. Sadly wewill be forced to change our genome ourselves at some point, since harmful mutations are no longer eliminated thanks to modern societzy especially medicine . You can already start to see the consequences of that, and I thionk changi.ng our genom,e ourselves is the most ethical way to handle that, since any other methods would require us to regulate who can´t have kids, and who has to have as many as possible to improve our genpool, which would be way more messed up

[@DocBree13]

Unfortunately, the excellent example of language evolution wouldn’t help convince any Christian’s I know, because they don’t believe that’s how languages developed. They believe all the languages were arose/were “assigned” to people in one day at the Tower of Babel.

[@SmittyFan]

Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 is not saying “all humans are animals and the only reason we don’t admit that is our own vanity”.

[@rickskeptical]

Kind of odd... Whenever a preacher goes astray of the secular law, even when he claims to only answer to God's will, God never steps in to open the prison gates or to save his servant. Almost makes you believe that there is no God or that none of the preachers know what they are talking about. Whenever preachers try to explain our world under Biblical interpretation or God's will, they cannot show solid evidence or propose a hypothesis that stands up at all. Almost makes you believe that none of them know what they are talking about.

[@deepskymike767]

A saw a clip where a woman in the audience said to Christopher Hitchens “what if you’re wrong”? And that right there to me is religion in a nutshell. People scared into believing in a God ‘just in case’.

[@almalain1980]

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[@Fade2GrayOG]

Aron and Dave on the same video? It's a good day to be alive and rational! Hail Aron!

[@exiztent818]

Hail Aron!

[@arsenic1987]

My thanks to Aron! Hail!

[@mitzzzu_tigerjones444]

I love that halfway through the dog gets up and walks away on Aron’s screen But somehow the background generator didn’t notice. it’s just like, “Yep, still a sleepy dog”.

[@skepticsinister]

Professor Dave & Aron Ra are heroes for humanity! Thank you and never stop your very important work! 👍🏽

[@sparXKuijper]

That's so funny 😆 I got up and started opening doors in case we shut a kitty in 😃🤣

[@FieldSobrietyTest6676]

I actualy forgot Zakir Naik exist, I've heard of him when I was a child and all I know he is an offensive religious actor. Thanks for the video !

[@Supreme_Kommandah]

This was the AWESOME MEAT GRINDER for religion that I expected..😊Great Job Guys!!

[@rklauco]

How can a discussion about evolution get any better than having a guy with parrot believing that it's a cat at the background?

[@danielpistola]

yessssss! I love it when you two get together and shed some light into our brains

[@bAYOTLIST.4299]

Brooooooooo..... One day we will see Forrest, Prof Dave, Aron, CosmicSkeptic, GeneticallyMod.Skeptic in one video! 👌👌👌

[@RetoskiCat]

I wish lol

[@sulk7080]

Throw in Jimmy Snow and Matt Dillahunty, and we got ourselves a party

[@joaquinm.698]

the ultimate crossover

[@TeoDP7]

I wish both of them would attack Eric dubays videos

[@an.d.m.a]

@@sulk7080 was gonna say to add Matt Dillahunty.

[@eb60lp]

Loved this conversation! Dave and Aaron Ra have a great chemistry!

[@Science_Always_Wins]

So nice to see aron and Dave together ❤️

[@iannhaupt6584]

Professor Dave and Aron Ra could conquer the world. 2 of the best right here. You guys rock

[@MetallicAAlabamA]

I think with Professor Dave, AronRa, Forrest Valkyie (I think that's correct, If not I apologize) and Matt Dillahunty. Those 4 personalities could really get this movement rolling. Its their personalities together that would make them so attractive. Plus they are the top of ladder imo.

[@itsjustme6632]

Aron's parrot has my dog excited. He thinks there's a cat in here.

[@outoforder8791]

I feel that arguing with creationists is often times truly pointless, because - as you guys pointed out - they will pretend that the scientific system used to study evolution is also just a belief or religion. Regardless, I really enjoyed listening to this discussion and I certainly learned a lot of new things about evolutionary biology.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

When I am arguing with creacrappers the point is me having fun with their falsehoods, stupidities and ignorance.

[@eatbliss8895]

@Sube Stew I like the way you label your post right at the start: 'nonsense'. Very accurate and helpful. Should maybe put 'Pointless' and "No Need to Read any further' on the numerous spams you have created too. LOL

[@eatbliss8895]

@Sube Stew Basically....yes. And, no matter what you may think, you don't have an answer either. It is just that one of us is honest about it. lol Carry on, soldier.

[@eatbliss8895]

@Sube Stew Nice analogy. So, when you see horsehovind strewn across the desert, you see that as your imaginary friends handiwork? Also, I wouldn't just assume it was from a horse, as other animals may have similar hovinds, but that is not really the point. The fact that you draw conclusions from such little evidence explains our primary differences, I think. And, we already went over the fact that I could care less what you choose to believe, as long as you are not rudely trying to get everyone else to play pretend with you. That is just annoying, and there is absolutely no need for it. So, thank you for our fascinating talk about horse hovind. I think your work is done here. And, for the record, I hope you are not right about your imaginary friend designing this, cause if he did, he is pretty damn sloppy, and has killed off more species than are currently here. Aside from that, he/she/it seems to not know what the hell they are doing, as there are many things about this current design that could have been designed much more efficiently, and better. I'd say they scored a D at best. Maybe that is why we never see them, because they are embarrassed and ashamed at doing such a piss poor job? And, if we were made in its image, one quick scan at the brain trust that is humanity should tell ya that he/she/it is not exactly Mensa material. I mean, look in the mirror to learn that quick lesson. So, its been fun, but I have better things to do now than look at poo and play make believe, but you go ahead and knock yourself out! Have fun! LOL

[@midlander4]

@Sube Stew you're all over the place... it's hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cirquedumushroom]

As much as its a relief for us, i bet its even more of a relief to ProfDave and Aron, to have a discussion where there isnt some bozo there, plugging their ears and screaming about the bible or the flat earth. These two play off each other so well with a lot of mutual respect.

[@snorefoot]

Knew it was Ra's parrot - better than my friend's that liked to say "Oh, yeah?"

[@thine.]

29:32 I THOUGHT IT WAS OUTSIDE OF MY WINDOW😭😭

[@AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen]

👏🙂 Yay Aron, Hanney and Prof Dave

[@arsenic1987]

Had an interesting thought about the "God who turned on the computer" thing. We always say that it would have to be some kind of "supercomputer" to run it... But "technically", it could run on a Commodore 64 processor with how simple the rules are. Since TIME is itself one of the "rules", this hypothetical "universe processor" could spend "millions of trillions of years" just calculating and processing the next "state" or "frame".. The frame-rate would absolutely SUCK if we expected it to run in "real-time", but without that limitation, there isn't really a need for it to be a supercomputer to simulate reality. Was just an interesting thought =)

[@derekbrou]

That parrot is a transitional species between birds and cats

[@douglasmarkwith]

The parrot meowing like a cat had me chuckling throughout this whole video. 😂

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

Professor Dave and AronRa are a formidable force against pseudoscience.

[@banquorebuechett9914]

There are so many wonderful parts to this. Please section them as separate videos under relevant headings so they can be found and watched more easily for those that need to learn.

[@bloozee]

The flying spaghetti monster created cephlapods in his own image?

[@KCAATV]

Round Earth Question for Dave... I have a serious question as a confused Round Earther and Bernie supporter. The new telescope can see back to 300 million years following the big bang. The telescope is therefore looking back in time at a fixed location in space for an extended length of time in order to achieve maximum exposure and focus. The sky obviously appears to be moving at night but the movement of the Earth seems inconsistent with that movement. However, the north star is fixed in space, such that it can be used as a way to locate true north, while magnetic north has a declination of various degrees, depending on our location. If the universe is growing and expanding, and we can see back to a time to long ago when all heavenly bodies were forming, how can a land based telescope or a space based telescope remain perfectly focused in the four dimensions of movement in time and space?

[@paulsilsby5355]

Even small telescopes are motorised and compensate for the rotation of the earth.

[@adamboyen4727]

It has to do with relative motion in that all objects in space move at similar speeds its like using a pair of binoculars on a moving train to focus on something on a parallel train moving at the same speed if that makes sense, in regards to rotation a previous comment mentioned the motors on these telescopes which moves the telescope at a rate half that of the hour hand on a clock, that's practically nothing but is still necessary for extended observations

[@thedragonofechigo7878]

Damn great to see Aron here.

[@cooswillemse7551]

My two favorite KZbinrs and freethinkers in one video. Brilliant!

[@DahPigIsAround]

I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness, after watching plenty of your videos, it helped build a foundation of knowledge after having to throw out what I learned, scientifically speaking, pretty much my entire childhood. A little insight into how a fundamentalist Christian will think though, something you discussed in the vaccine video, “Good v Bad chemicals.” In a lot of fundamentalist organizations, the populations hear a word or phrase and it triggers that Good/bad response in them and often just turn off their brain to not allow the “evil” in. It becomes a part of what you do, typically to show your allegiance to God through listening to the organization that you espouse to be an arbiter of truth.

[@cygnustsp]

I grew up JW too and Dave's mic triggers me, we had that green cancelling mic at the kingdom hall

[@head_rat]

My mother is a JW and I keep trying to open her eyes to the truth. I suspect I will never manage it but the fact some of you have managed to "escape" gives me some hope.

[@cygnustsp]

@@head_rat my mom is 78 now and still very involved in the religion with friends etc, I'd never ever try and pull her out of it, especially since she respects my decision to have walked away and gotten disfellowshipped. She never shunned me and in fact had saved my life many times.

[@head_rat]

@@cygnustsp Thanks for this. I appreciate it.

[@ericmork630]

@Sube Stew to be more specific, we disbelieve in your baseless claims.

[@aaronmathews9506]

just spent an hour and twenty minutes wondering if there was a cat in my apartment

[@tom33pr]

Aron's parrot is a great evidence to support evolution - it wanted to communicate with another pet and therefore learnt to speak cat.

[@beetoven8193]

That was a parrot?!?

[@Graeme_Lastname]

I had to stop and start several times to get over it. It sounded like it was just outside my window.😝

[@nawunny]

@@beetoven8193 yeah, at 29:28 if you need it.

[@theqcgamer]

Loved this one very much. Thanks a lot guys

[@adjacentshadow]

Aron and Dave! 😍 This is a dream team, more please! Let's go on the offensive!

[@almalain1980]

my WhatsApp make a DM for investment plans 👆

[@richardlawson6787]

More like defence...these freaks have had hundreds of years spewing their ignorant nonsense...we need defense against these perps

[@joegeorge3889]

Love these two guys

[@exiztent818]

Oh hell ya! Those days of staying quiet while believers murder thousands of innocent women for the charge of witchcraft ARE OVER! Their days are numbered. I give it another hundred years MAX. And the fall of religion will be precipitous, we just need to be very outspoken and not give a fuck. There will be casualties, religion is getting desperate, it will lash out during its death throes, there will be ppl that will have to sacrifice a great deal to bring this insidious MEMEPLEX down.... but it's coming down either way. Its like slavery, there is no future in it, it's truly unsustainable in a very real way. Shit, we'll fucken go down there and beat it out them if we have to, just like we did with slavery.

[@ianthomas7863]

Humans are slowly evolving, even today. Go back two centuries, Humans where different, shorter etc. Human technology has advanced, we are now living longer. And don't get diseases, that would kill millions. Etc. So yes, we have current human evolution.

[@donaldcook2484]

Aron and Dr Dave are such a powerful force of knowledge and our understanding of the real world and the evolution of life!

[@Meowlenean]

Dr?! 😆

[@teresawhite9628]

meow.. meow. Aron "that's my parrot who thinks he is a cat” I'm dying 🤣

[@DrReginaldFinleySr]

My research interests are in improving scientific literacy and critical thinking in the general public. It's nice to see two of my favorite guys together addressing some related aspects of this. Thanks for sharing Prof. Dave. - from a fellow Professor (formerly, The Infidel Guy Show host)

[@DocBree13]

That’s awesome - good luck to you in your endeavors - nothing more important for humanity right now than those goals

[@pkats9093]

This is awesome! Three of the best on KZbin

[@christopherjohns1566]

The idea of a creator's creation being much more complicated than needed hits the nail on the head. A perfect example is John Harrison and his maritime chronometer. His first prototype is exponentially more complicated in construction and over 2 feet tall. The final version was less than 6 inches tall.

[@donsheffler]

Three EXCELLENT panelists! Thanks you all.

[@BasilAbdef]

After hearing it for an hour, I need to see Aron's parrotcat.

[@davidwood8730]

If similar designs imply the same designer, do different designs imply different designers?

[@greyshadow5575]

Hey dave,i loved this video. I just wanted to ask what book you would recommend to us about evolution?

[@kimoto311]

The greatest show on Earth by Richard Dawkins

[@messiah2203]

Was that his parrot!? I thought it was my cat XD

[@sirzn]

was looking for new debunks/debates from prof dave and found this video published 1 hour ago, great way to start my morning

[@alanautpax6829]

Thank you for the wonderful vod

[@apollosiris5733]

No waaaaay you and Aaron RA. This was dope

[@erickelley7320]

I thought the sound your parrot was making was coming from outside my house. I actually went outside to see if there was a cat whining at my doorstep.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Never heard of the Critical Faculty podcast, But I sure know and love both Professor Dave and Aron Ra! Thanks for uploading it Dave, because I may have never seen it. (