'Disgraceful' Tigers lick their wounds after Storm belting | Where to now for Wests?

[@alexfisher777]

"it's a dark day, it's a dark night, there's no shining light" beautiful poetry from braith

[@imalwaysright]

@it's true he’s being sarcastic Braith is one of the most irritating commentators

[@ConScortis]

@it's true I'd rather be "easily amused" than a goddam sourpuss. Why so serious?

[@ConScortis]

@it's true Are you referring to me? I didn't like my own comment, someone else did. Probably you. But I suspect you're the type of bloke who "unlikes" his own comment. That's just sad, mate.

[@alexfisher777]

@it's true your intellectually above this level of humour are you mate?

[@ConScortis]

@it's true that's very poetic mate, just beautiful. Almost as poetic as Anasta.

[@dbo4506]

Ennis is right. This squad isn’t good enough. It doesn’t reflect the salary cap. Which means management have made poor decision after poor decisions and this is what you’re left with. There’s some players that deserve to stay but they need better players. More rocks and diamonds like TPJ is the opposite of what they need.

[@jamesbrennan7355]

I love how Tamou said "it's up to us to fix this". That's the point. Stop blaming management and the coach. It's the 17 players that are letting the club down. They are the ones losing the game. Nobody else. Finally a bit of honestly from a player that isn't making excuses and blaming other people.

[@dbo4506]

Very true but also look at the squad mate. Management put that team together. They offered teddy max 700k then told him to walk when he didn’t accept. 4 weeks later they sign josh Reynolds for 750k. That’s just one example of many that have built this roster. Tigers have let a a top 4 team walk out the door. Papenhuzyn, teddy, Moses, ado-carr, Marshall (twice) and plenty more. Every teams priority is a good 1-6-7-9. We’ve had nothing in those positions and we don’t sign anyone worth while in those positions. That’s management. Laurie is class. But we are singing jimmy the jet Joey leilua, TPJ and the like…. All rocks and diamonds players that gift penalties like it’s going out of fashion. Buy better!!

[@imalwaysright]

I didn’t watch the game. Could it be an off night? Every team has some (like Souths). Or is it a deeper issue?

[@dyrancoops4211]

@@imalwaysright it’s the tigers mates, they’re so inconsistent half their games r off nights if u can call them that

[@sdi1111]

Can't agree....there is internal turmoil in the Management side that has been going on for years!

[@sdi1111]

It's probably a combination of factors. If there is poor rapport between the players/coach/management, then this is what happens. Yes, a lot of players haven't the dedication to become champions, but if the club management supports them, then they can rise to great heights. The salary cap should be used to pay every player in a team the same amount of money. Every player in the NRL should receive the same amount of money. This would stop players from the greed that exists in all forms of professional football. What do the poor fans do? Do they follow the player or do they follow the team?

[@grantcarncross5380]

Love the tigers with all my heart, but its the management of the club, because they continue to buy second class players with poor work ethic, the problem is they keep buying other clubs rejects or players at the back end of their careers.

[@Hoodoo04]

I worked at the Parramatta Eels for 7 years during one their most successful eras 1999-2005. I went for a job at the Tigers a few years ago in a senior position and the club told me my services weren’t needed. I was seriously dumbfounded. Now I’m working for Racing NSW.

[@stankboi1411]

@@Hoodoo04 Any tips how to get a job in a club ?

[@jacksnrlstuff5238]

Tamou and Laurie are good signings and swap deals

[@taliadransfield537]

We need like addo-Carr or something

[@grantcarncross5380]

@@taliadransfield537 we let him go a few years ago, plus other good players who have become better players, as I said the club management that's the real problem.

[@slipperyop9854]

As a Tigers fan, all our problems started when we let Benji go the first time and then mistreated Robbie Farah. The horrible retainment of players is because of this. The reason why players chose to join other clubs was because they saw how club legends were mistreated and how poorly managed the club is. With Tim Sheens back we can finally stop losing players like Tedesco, Papenhuyzen, Moses, Patterson, Addo-Carr, Koroibete.

[@FB-kz8vc]

Jason Taylor as well

[@imalwaysright]

I forget Teddy & Paps are from there. It’s like Broncos exodus

[@bigthree6182]

I can't agree more with you. As a tigers fan it's been forever since we've enjoyed watching the Tigers. The problem actually started when Tim Sheens got let go at the end of 2012 then all the things you said. The players we've lost goes on, so many forwards we have lost as well it's not even funny. It's gonna take forever till we're good again. At least we used to come 9th but even that has ended now. Even this year for example, what does the management see in James Roberts? He's not the same player he was, why do they keep selecting him? Joey Leuila was actually in form during round 8-11, but roberts fit again they don't select Leuila. Makes no sense!! Don't forget this is the same team who took Rabbitohs to the golden point. We've always had the talent, it's the mindset!!

[@Hoodoo04]

Great points you have made. Simple answer. Justin Pascoe, your CEO

[@Bennyboy1985]

Tigers are virtually the Western Suburbs Magpies with a Tigers logo. They're playing the same way as those Wests teams in the late 90's too.

[@matcole9896]

What a load of rubbish.

[@sivovimosoi9882]

@@matcole9896 hes not wrong

[@matcole9896]

@@sivovimosoi9882 Yes, he is.

[@Bennyboy1985]

@@matcole9896 Why am I wrong, then? Explain.

[@robbiebankovic]

I thought the Broncos had problems - this is even worse!

[@kierancallaghan5819]

Don’t know about that, broncos is the embarrassment of the nrl. They get flog by bottom of the ladder teams haha

[@simonextra9689]

It's ugly but the Broncos are far worse

[@mort1693]

I recon they do a huge clean out and get the gang back together. Mitchell Moses, Tedesco, Tapau, Naquma and the GOAT Benji Marshall

[@Hoodoo04]

Ok. Not sure thats going to work. But thanks for your comment

[@mohammadazim6700]

They had benji and couldn't use him to their advantage...coaching and management sucks at the west tigers...balance sheet is probably horrible...from 50 million a year avg they ain't taking any home...NRL is horrible business structure...instead of 400 million a year they can easily make 600 million by doing a few changes and additions...

[@mohammadazim6700]

@WarriorCrimson well said...they still use the same business model as the amature game back in 88...jj needs to come and save them...they can easily make 750 million a year...in the USA the avg is 1 billion rv per 25 million people...

[@mohammadazim6700]

@WarriorCrimson exactly bro...there's so much more markets out there...its about national coverage...not nsw or qlnd or vic...even tho wa and others are small towns...but they can easily fit 20k in the stands...easily..

[@mohammadazim6700]

@WarriorCrimson also...who wants to buy an NRL franchise...max 50 mill RV and walk away with 1 million profit...I would never buy into it...I'd only buy the league and make drastic changes that benefit the GDP of the country through sports...

[@Fezzy2200]

I'm a Cronulla sharks fan ...... it's beyond me how luke Brooks is on 800k a year that's the first problem right there

[@davidddaniel]

Remember when Tigers beat the undefeated Panthers a few weeks ago and thought they were a genuine premier chance. Haha haha. Goes to show how hollow that victory was.

[@bluebagel8084]

Should have never got rid of Benjie.

[@grantcarncross5380]

But that's the tigers always go from bad to worse, at least if Benji was there, would be some pride in the jersey.

[@MPT1983]

Just playing first grade is enough for some blokes in the NRL, they have their paychecks, their flash cars, girlfriends etc, to them they have made it already.

[@grantcarncross5380]

Yeah those type of players don't need to be in the NRL, because half that Tiger's squad are of park football standard. If I was playing like that, would be embrassed to collect my pay packet.

[@Giveme1goodreason]

100% accurate. Same at the broncos. The nrl keeps talking expansion. They don’t have enough quality players for the teams we already have.

[@grantcarncross5380]

@@Giveme1goodreason so true so true.

[@nisaldesilva9011]

Wonder if braith has an idea of these underlying issues at the club given he was a former tigers player himself

[@newglorydays-yu6bb]

Maybe switch the magpie with the tiger on the shoulders. And play more games at campbelltown. Get the fans behind the team more and maybe they will care about getting respect out of the grandstand. If they don't they will fold before 2030. West tiger's arnt a solid brand, and now it's about solidifying whatever the next step is for the club.

[@Ruoktoday1]

To be fair to the Tigers, they're not the only club that the Storm has made to look very ordinary this year, inc some that thought they were travelling ok before they faced them. That includes the Roosters who the Storm beat by nearly the same margin in the very next round. Props to Tamou also for giving pretty frank and honest answers to the questions asked... not easy under the circumstances.

[@normanmoffatt9707]

Last year the the Storm lost a close game and the coach said if the current players couldn’t do the job he’d find players who could!

[@stankboi1411]

Anyone saying coach needs to go needs to look at how the tigers have been for the past 10 years this dont work new coach we didn't make the 8 new coach we can't keep recycling coaches we need a good management system the board and talent recruiting need to be accountable

[@Giveme1goodreason]

100% the players in Brisbane are trying to claim it’s the coach because they’re gutless and unprofessional. Kevie wasn’t the coach when they won the wooden spoon last year. In this case there has been what 10 coaches and the results don’t change. The broncos players the tigers players are the problem.

[@cattyshackdecorcatfurnitur140]

Luke Brooks should be in reggies…..it’s long overdue

[@Nile15rush_fj]

So should the rest of the team

[@adelareguera9037]

West Tigers have some great junior players,my son has been a junior rep for them for the last 4 yrs. Supposed to be a development squad,but they only play 1 game ,most of its just training. The club should take more interest in getting to the junior games13yrs and up on weekends. Pap,Teddy,they got their development elsewhere.

[@matcole9896]

Totally agree. So tired of our young guys going elsewhere and playing like champions. Tim Sheens as a coach had a young group of players come in and win a premiership.

[@michelledavidson8190]

Add the Broncos to those honesty sessions as well.

[@nahzewilliams5912]

Ken Maumalo--WTF i get myself into

[@aussiebodie]

Is it just me or was the litter on that hill disgraceful... How the hell does it get so bad 😱

[@imalwaysright]

Grubs

[@januariasg2837]

aussies

[@just1fix2099]

Bogans 👍

[@drbog502]

Tigers will change when they get some decent halves! Brookes has had his chance, and hasn't delivered. Move him on.

[@robbiebankovic]

Brooks would have to be one of the most inconsistent half backs the game has ever seen. He looks lost out there.

[@swisscloud4309]

@@robbiebankovic thats not really his fault the forward pack is ass. You swap moses and brooks moses would be struggling at the tigers and brooks would be the king of bank west stadium Halves aint there issue its management inability to spend their money on a good forward they keep overpaying for centres fullback five 8 they dont need and then have little money to spend on a quality forward pack

[@happycamper4918]

Brooks would look a lot better behind a solid forward pack

[@drbog502]

Regardless of forwards or not, Brooks doesn't lead the team around. He doesn't do freakish plays like a Ponga or Sean Johnson and doesn't run a structured team, he has a sloppy show and go, and that's about all.

[@rookszz164]

You would at least think after so many years of experience with the tigers he could lead us somewhere but no complete fuckwit

[@DavidTramacchi]

James Tamou is collecting a pension.

[@Christians9955]

Just fold the club

[@grantcarncross5380]

Totally agree with that.

[@gazzablanca]

You have to have a good core of vets who know how to turn a team around. It starts in the office and ends in the lockers. Identify where the team is failing and make the changes. Regardless how high the problems go. It's like running a business. Don't be all sentimental.

[@RugbyLeagueHistory]

The club needs a huge clean out from top to bottom. Wests have also had the worst recruitment and retention in the NRL over the last 10 year.

[@Juicepluggedin]

seems like they were too busy thinking about where they gonna go drink after the game in noosa lol

[@jamesbrennan7355]

Lol 😂

[@braydenforbes6297]

Bro look at all that rubbish just left by the fans behind tamou, that's a bad look...

[@davoguiney9902]

Would they turn things around if they managed to land Brandon Smith and Dale Finacane?

[@adamsconnected5613]

Poor Tamou- worst time to interview someone😂...

[@jackohere1878]

Geez Tigers almost as bad as Broncs.

[@nwmy9655]

Nah wros

[@michelledavidson8190]

Almost lol.

[@OGTrollTroll8]

Bulldogs anyone?

[@jackohere1878]

@@OGTrollTroll8 Com'on at least the Doggies are putting up a fight and playing with heart.

[@ksonahkson6546]

A Where's Brooks with his inspirational speeches??LOL

[@adamsconnected5613]

"it's pay day tomorrow boys, let's hit the booze and molly water "

[@POZZA691]

Braith quite the word smith!

[@whatsfordinner1695]

@4:11 so Tigers had a win against the Tigers eh? lol

[@michelledavidson8190]

Lol I noticed that too 🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinwaters5872]

I blame the fans. Man up Tiger fans.

[@neilcollis7720]

Maguire didn't want Benji or Corey Thompson. He likes defence,

[@ZIGSVIDS]

Crisis! How can they possibly keep the coach, unless of course if the board just don't care.Just look at the leagues club.

[@gsifri]

That was 2 years ago and getting worse after 2 years.

[@fishpest2039]

If the Tigers play against the Bronco's, it would be a tied finish

[@thestoicwhinger]

I know you "make your own luck" but fm the storm get a ton of leg ups

[@Jp-do9ny]

The tigers players are simply not NRL standard. Theres not one player in that squad who is elite.

[@tiges6989]

Over 10 years of nil finals, that was a huge turnover of players but still the same results. I put it down to poor recruitment decisions, They have sold gold and bought lead.🤔

[@NatesEscape]

Don't worry we thrashed the Rabbitohs by 50 points too 😂

[@neilmartin1117]

Yea talk about kicking a team when Their down o that’s Cameron Munster dog

[@NatesEscape]

@@neilmartin1117 imagine playing for the warriors and losing to the storm then switching teams and losing to the storm the week after...

[@NatesEscape]

@@neilmartin1117 maybe people should stop trying to slow down the ruck 😂

[@NatesEscape]

@@neilmartin1117 and it was more saying the Rabbitohs are one of the top teams and lost by the same amount was trying to actually be positive about it, tigers aren't doing too well on the ladder and did as well as a team that's 4th

[@muzzleflash1]

Don't blame the players, don't blame the staff and coaches. 100% responsibility for the shambles several NRL clubs are in at the moment lays at the feet of Andrew Abdo and Peter V'landys. And more than likely, many CEOS who are towing the party line.

[@sdi1111]

Yes, so right...too much going on in the background. The NRL is focused on money and not loyalty.

[@juzlookin3020]

Poor Ken Maumalo… lost to the storm with the warriors the previous week, joins tigers and plays storm again 😅😩😩

[@adamsconnected5613]

😂 that's a lot of storm

[@soundzrinmygarden3833]

Tigers must be due for a new coach by now, surely.

[@zedgee4514]

professional players don't need to be told what to do they know what to do, so all they have to do is go out there and do it and if they cant they should not consider themselves as professionals, getting thrashed like that is not professional it's very amateurish look like second division they must be saving money.

[@Hoodoo04]

The issue here is simple guys. The CEO Justin Pascoe. He is the poison in you’re drinking water. Trust me. I haven’t worked in the game for a while but I still know a few people in the corridors. Poker machines is his #1. Look at the comedy at the club since he joined.

[@Eric_412]

body language says it all, after an obsolete thrashing James Roberts was more interested in picking his feet and rubbing his body, in no way was he buying into what Madge was saying.. i believe even players like prime Greg Ingles , Jonathan Thurston or Cooper Cronk [ just to name a couple ] would suffer in this current Tigers team i feel for James Tamou, he came from Penrith that have set the bench mark on player accountability to a team that appear to be playing for beers as match payments..

[@Giveme1goodreason]

I don’t think Thurston Inglis or Cronk would struggle there because they are genuine leaders. Their talents are secondary to their leadership and both brisbane and west’s are seriously deficient in the leadership.

[@zedgee4514]

wanna be called a tiger then play like one am an old Leichhardt boy from the 70's from Ibrox park today they look like cubs.

[@tomb1462]

Every club wants better players. B

[@sdi1111]

This club has had internal conflict for many years....so much political wrangling and bickering! Don't blame the coach or the players - unknowns can be champions if the management backs them. The Management should all step down and let some new blood in....that's the only way this club will survive!

[@gmoriano]

Have a look around the shed……pretty obvious the issue

[@TheOneZiggy]

Just make Laurie the captain

[@taitavita7271]

I had high hopes for tigers after there last few games

[@fuckthis101]

Why

[@bw66210]

it was an under-strength panthers they beat. Ivan cleary even said that they are "pretenders". This just proved his point.

[@rhyssanders9122]

their

[@oldmatevb]

Boe Watene yea but it just proves how panthers don’t have depth. Panthers still had heaps of stars, the good teams missing there halves (roosters, and storm) can still perform without them.

[@rhyssanders9122]

@@oldmatevb halves arent everything, and i know i play fly half in union and 58 in league, the academies are good but arent everything either - look at the broncos

[@mrmikez372]

Sign SJohnson immediately 😉

[@Giveme1goodreason]

A notoriously inconsistent player to help fix an inconsistent team?

[@matthewleonello9901]

Many tigers fans having Homicidal Thoughts

[@AshleyJOsborne]

Couple of points. 1. Melbourne still reaping rewards from their breaches of the past*. 2. Salary cap has failed. 3. We can stop hearing about poor Bronx for one vid. 4. There is daylight between top teams and the rest. 5. Tight games are a thing of the past.

[@januariasg2837]

explain number 1 ?

[@Giveme1goodreason]

Salary caps only work in conjunction with a draft. Blame that spud terry hill for no draft.

[@sdi1111]

Let's face it..there is no REAL salary cap and it is rarely regulated by the NRL. There is an easy solution to this problem...Let every player in every team receive the same amount of money....no matter what team they join. Why TF should one player in a team get a lot more than another? This causes resentment and upheaval in a team of players. If every player was to receive the same amount of money, then this would stop players from roaming for better money offers and would bring stability back to the game. Loyalty would return and greed would be exiled...sad, but this game has lost its honesty.

[@andrewbaker4506]

Tigers supporter awefull display havnt made finals for ever disappointing to say the least big hole hopefully they can dig there way out

[@imalwaysright]

Maybe the coach is not a good fit for this playing group 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Hoodoo04]

Disagree. It’s the players. You can’t keep sacking coaches

[@jamesbrennan7355]

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COACH. Such an easy excuse to make.

[@imalwaysright]

@@Hoodoo04 ok. Just trying to think of reasons for last night. Maybe it was just an off night like Souths when they got smashed 🤷🏻‍♂️ Maybe they don’t want to play for him 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@rickriosa9318]

Maybe performance based payments are the go!!!.....otherwise they're playing for tinnies at the end of the game like in A reserve!!

[@robinalexander5772]

I notice that many of you are kicking the tiger in the guts while they are down for the count. The tigers played a team that is just way to good. Panthers, storm, eels are this year so far above other teams abilities its unbelievable. So what makes these teams so good? They work hard play hard and play as a team, and team is the key word here. So try not to kick people when they are down but try and support them in the coming weeks. Questions should be asked of the team and coaches on what went wrong and how do we improve. Cheers

[@Giveme1goodreason]

Wake up to yourself mate. These are allegedly professionals, and they’ve been terrible for 10 Years stop making excuses. They need to start being accountable.

[@sdi1111]

Try asking the management why their players aren't up to scratch. There are a lot of people involved in the background who have their own politcal motivations and ambitions. The Tigers Management should all step down.

[@matcole9896]

There is a bit of truth to what you are saying.

[@robinalexander5772]

@@Giveme1goodreason read what I wrote again please. I have explained loosely what a good team is or are. The gist of my comment is look at what it takes to be really good and then implement it into your team. If you take a big stick to the issue you end up at Broncos. A really fucked team where the team doesn't want to be there. So I say again don't kick a person when they are down, find away to lift them up.

[@Mr1in1000000]

Lol these guys. Free loaders 🤑

[@warrenlowe5389]

I think you are being a bit harsh. Storm is one of the top sides.

[@Giveme1goodreason]

@@warrenlowe5389 so what? That’s not an excuse. You can understand losing to a top team but 66-16. Stop making excuses and pardoning allegedly professional athletes for “just not turning up.” Seriously your attitude is why rugby league a minor sport. It’s a professional sport played with amateur attitudes and that somehow flies in rugby league fandom.

[@jamesbrennan7355]

Braith is surprisingly an amazing commentator and always has refreshing point of views. I can't stand that chick what ever her name is. She never bring anything to the table...

[@Hoodoo04]

To be fair Braith went to the Tigers at the end of his career and offered very little on the field. Funny he’s now bagging the recruitment at the club

[@jamesbrennan7355]

It was an option to add a couple more years to his career but it has nothing to do with his feeling to the club. That was a decade ago and has nothing to do with what's going on now

[@AC26875]

Braith has publicly stated that he regrets going to the Tigers. He said the club was terribly managed, and that he didn’t enjoy his time there at all… Braith is always quick to criticise the Tigers because he still has a personal agenda towards the club… yet he loves to say how he was fortunate to play with Tedesco. If he was fortunate then why bag out the club at every opportunity.. He’s a douche.

[@imalwaysright]

Braith is terrible

[@januariasg2837]

she's only there for the quota mate , where were all these female hosts 10 years ago ??