Disney Lost Mickey Mouse... Now You Can Do ANYTHING You Want To Him

[@lichtsprecher]

Technically, “parody clause” protected R34 Mickey Mouse already. But lawyers will sue you just to sue and assume you don’t have the resources to fight back. With the public domain thing, courts will simply not hear the case if you filed the right paperwork to show you’re using the public domain character

[@7792pnaurfr]

What are you talking about? Even before this, disney doesn't really go for r34 smut artists.

[@countesslita]

Pete is older than Mickey, actually! Pete started showing up in the Alice Comedy cartoons which are pre-Mickey Disney cartoons. Before Warren Spector fought to put Oswald back in the story (wild, truly), he was the oldest popular Disney character still in common use.

[@NickTuring]

Copyright isn't ownership, it's a monopoly on using a certain thing. So I think from a societal standpoint it should be viewed as: how long will we disallow society from using this thing? You want to promote creativity as a society, but a society should also strife to be as free as possible. Personally I like the idea of standardizing the cost of using something after some amount of time. That way the originator gets to benefit while society is free to use the thing as they please.

[@DeltaEntropy]

You can already license copyrighted material and use it legally. Your only difference is that the price is arbitrarily decided by the government instead of by the rights holder, which doesn’t sound ideal considering almost nothing creative has objective value and government is notoriously bad at evaluation and price indexing and inflation adjustments.

[@NickTuring]

@@DeltaEntropy And yet IP owners tend not to license their things. Clearly companies are incentivized to be protective of their IP. The only way to counter that is to legally enforce a path to public use.

[@DeltaEntropy]

@@NickTuringIP owners license their IP all the time… Pretty much every commercial movie is licensed IP, for example…

[@NickTuring]

@@DeltaEntropy and my counter to that would be literally every time copyright is enforced. For every license given a multitude more get rejected. Which, for a limited time, is fine but there's no reason we should allow that for over 60 years.

[@7792pnaurfr]

​@@NickTuringyou want to promote creativity? Encourage people to make their own characters

[@MACHEW_WingDestiny]

If Disney were able to profit from all the Fairy Tale Princesses writers worked hard for, we should also be able to profit off Mickey Mouse whatever version there is.

[@7792pnaurfr]

Why? You can profit off fairy tales. Fairy tales aren't owned by you so how come you should be able to use a disney character?

[@Fanimati0n]

​@itsgonnabeanaurfromme ... because he should have entered public domain decades ago & now is to a degree

[@supasonic9499]

I'm surprised Disney didn't ask for another copyright extension. Then again, maybe 'The Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse' version of Mickey would give them a reason to try a Cease & Desist, since the design is pretty similar.

[@MonerLaine]

They wanted to, but remember that the states is ruled by either democrats and republicans. One side hated them since before you and me were born and the other one started to hate them because they have now line three black characters lmao. They knew it was a lost cause, plus they still can sue for many many other invented reasons.

[@MACHEW_WingDestiny]

That's kinda low of them to do that. There are barely any differences between the versions of Mickey. The only reason there was a change of design or having multiple versions is there is an improvement in artwork but the core character is still the same. Having multiple versions is cheating the system. Fairy tales also have different reiterations and versions but Disney was able to take them for themselves just because they know no one would sue them

[@SubLuminary]

Honestly I wish this wasn’t a “political issue” as in not just the right wingers want less copyright.

[@7792pnaurfr]

​@@MACHEW_WingDestinythat's not how fairy tales work. You can't sue them AT ALL for fairy tales because they're in public domain.

[@Puzzles-Pins]

They made Mickey Mouse a trademark. He's the face of the 'House of Mouse'. Synonymous with their branding. So if you want to use the character, you have to be very careful to avoid trademark infringement. Any confusion for a Disney product, even if it's a stretch, and they have grounds to sue.

[@Ryzawa]

People trying to own everything is such a rich person mindset, literally just hoarding treasures like a dragon but when they're gone it doesn't matter anymore. It's infuriating how often copyrighting is abused or attempted to anyways.

[@7792pnaurfr]

What are you talking about? This story is literally about copyright finishing. Disney Probably realize that they're not losing anything. People made a bunch of Mickey Mouse fan games and they're all terrible.

[@Let_Toons]

It's not the first ever Mickey cartoon, but instead the first to be sucessfull. Other shorts like Plane Crazy came before but flopped. And after Steamboat's sucess with _inovate sound-allining technology_ The same sound incorporation was added to the older Mickey toons upon re-release.

[@nim2187]

Its 55 years after the original creator's death. Then later on became 95 years because of the mickey mouse protection act.

[@bander-Coolb]

After watching this I think it’s 90 plus years to protect their childhood from us

[@yagrammylemons]

WWE owns the rights to John Cena's name, even though it is a gimmick he plays, John Cena is his real name, therefore anything he signs onto WWE gets a cut

[@maxtheblackbear8072]

1:00 Actually, Mickey made his first appearance in Plane Crazy, which came out months before Steamboat Willie. Both Plane Crazy and Gallopin Gaucho were watched privately. Unfortunately it failed. When Steamboat Willie came out, that's when the public was introduced to Mickey and his fandom expanded. Don't forget Pete is way much older than Mickey and Oswald. Pete made his first appearance in 1925, Alice Solves the Puzzle. However, he was a bear.

[@nikx]

Another video about this said Mickey is such a small part of Disney IP by now, that it's just not worth it anymore to protect it.

[@willumity6066]

Yeah! That's what they get for treating the serialized shows particularly The Owl House like a trash!

[@drguthrie7621]

I always preferred the old black and white Mickey design

[@bluesky896]

From what i remember, cartoons used to be filler for movies. Also a more adult thing, as films were targeted at adults. Thats the reason that oldmcartoons had smoking and such.

[@lordcola-3324]

13:15: He: "55 years [...] maybe a little short" I: "5 years sounds fair I think"

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

I think 20 years. Means that you should be able to have the time to create your own derivative work. With only 5 years slower writers could lose the copyright pretty quickly. With 20 years the original trilogy of Star Wars + the prequels- revenge of the sixth

[@jimuw]

People ask "how many times a day do you think about the Roman Empire?" Me after watching this video: They made the concept of copyright, so probably few times a week

[@rcoder01]

A lot of the later part of this video is confusing copyright with trademarks. Copyright applies to creative works, is given automatically to the creator of the work, and expires after a certain period of time, whereas trademarks apply to brand names, phrases, or logos, can be applied for, and often only apply within a certain context (ie. you could make a grocery store called "fresh apple place" or whatever, but you couldn't make an electronics company called "apple makers").

[@raphaelmartins6529]

No, it was not the first Cartoon Mickey was featured on. There was a few others from the same year

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

thanks, professor, for the lesson on public domain.

[@Talsbynians]

I think it’s good to point out that basically all forms of copyright law and fair use that exist today are restrictions pushed that favor capital owners and corporations lobbied and created by those same entities. It’s fair to have a knee jerk reaction to people “stealing” work, but that’s always in the contextual framework of mega-corporations who could lose profits.

[@Nagasakevideo]

Honestly I am just against copyright in general. I don't think just because you came up with an idea means that you get to control how other people use the idea. You don't want other people using your idea? Never share it with anyone. You use the example of a watch, but the difference is that items are limited. Ideas are not. And idea can be duplicated over and over and over again and it has no scarcity in the way that items do. The only scarcity that ideas have is artificially created by things like copyright laws which must be enforced through the violent seizing of people's assets.

[@SubLuminary]

A universal 50 year copyright term would be literally amazing

[@lyrad24]

That 20+ minutes went by fast. hehe Thank you for this! I was sure Didney might not just take this lightly still and still be in a way wary or vigilant when using it.

[@phoenixvance6642]

40. i want 80s stuff in public domain. Theyve had plenty of time to profit since then, and if they want to continue, they should make a new IP instead

[@pigmasters3263]

22:40 WHAT AM I LOOKING AT!?! MY EYES!!!

[@amazing-qq3wi]

KZbin ACTUALLY unsubbed me from professor lando

[@fuwafuwarowatari]

boys just can't stop thinking about the Roman empire

[@polishedpebble4111]

Copyright should be banned for medical, engineering, etc products/techniques. Person(s) behind it should be compensated, but if it's something that can save or sustain life, it should be made available easily and far reaching.

[@gianlucaangeli]

oh no

[@Wreck1990]

They gonna do to mickey what Disney did to star wars.

[@SmileyEmps]

It’s payback time

[@retrogamerfoxxie]

Does Steamboat Willie entering the Public Domain apply for the EU/UK too? Also never expected Professor to teach me copyright law!

[@TeaTimeLethe]

Insightful and ends with prof saying it was his excuse to draw them making out. Hahhahah of course

[@jiman22]

Who cares about any of these when prof lando looks so good in this video 😝

[@Cabamacadaf]

I think you're confusing copyright with trademark sometimes in this video, they're similar concept but have different laws regarding them.

[@Cha0sismym1ddlename]

I punished myself with that Pooh movie.... It was BaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaad

[@usagis294]

new upload lets go

[@tigger760]

Waiting for the mickey Mouse nsfw film

[@anaken383]

Lmao this reminds me, *The Wright Brothers*, who created the world's first practical powered aircraft in 1903, ....They tried to patent the control system and the very concept of three dimensional interconnected controls. No... Not their plane, but the very idea of the Ailerons, Flaps, rudder etc..... They wasted so many years because people were using their ideas and these brothers were determined on Suing them all. In Europe however, their shit didn't kinda work like it did in U.S. As years progressed, Europe went past and created even better aircrafts, I'm sure you guys know the aircrafts during ww1, just took them 10 years to get there. The patent was stagnating the further development in the Aviation industry in the U.S. Sometimes, You just can't patent or copy right things. You just need to forget it and move on. Can't win against everyone.

[@marrychrismas5993]

r34 :)

[@seiunzzz]

AYO FIRST?

[@cullenworrall1086]

Yoooo second

[@lordcola-3324]

"AI art is made by sealing art" Did you steal art if you studied someone elses art and have that later on influence you when create a new piece of art? Because that is what AI is doing. So if your answer is yes then basically every piece of art ever created was done so by stealing art. If your answer is no, then AI is not stealing art.