Disney's Pinocchio 2022 misses the point... again.

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Pinocchio is a remake of Disney's 1940 classic but is another in Disney's long line of underwhelming remakes. The film also fumbles the messages of the original. Just stick to the original version. It still holds up for the most part.
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[@Devilsblight86]

I never understood why "modern sensibilities" makes companies and people try to keep things like smoking and alcohol away from kid's eyes. The original Pinocchio didn't celebrate these things or encourage kids to do them, it taught kids NOT to do those things. Even taught kids to LISTEN to their parents.

[@KitsuneFyora]

To add on to your point, i watched OG Disney Pinocchio and watched the pleasure island scene. Best believe i correlated drinking and smoking with turning into a donkey. Didn't wanna do that stuff for maaaany years.

[@orionhan2431]

especially not Lying. In 2022, Disney is saying lying gets you rewarded

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

that's the whole point of the original! as if I already didn't feel bad for these kids, here they're punished for doing child-like things

[@julianmartinez4719]

@@ClaudetteVioletta which actually is a really shitty message, like "if you have fun like you normally do as a child, you get punished". Is like when someone tried to play safe with a story, the over all message can be as damaging as the thing they try to censor.

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

@@julianmartinez4719 that's the only message they TRIED to give yet they couldn't Even pull it right

[@hibikiholmes2867]

"It's almost like the writers didn't get Pinnochio." If modern remakes and reboots have thought me anything, it's that Disney does not hire anybody who actually likes their stuff.

[@olandir]

I feel like they hired a bunch of fanfic writers. It feels like they are writing self-insert stories where the MC can do no wrong.

[@Billioncompany786]

@@olandir Even for a Fan Fiction you have be a fan in the first place. The modern remakes and adaptations seems like they hate the source material itself.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

The funny thing is, in the original story Pinocchio does go to school and not only becomes accepted but he becomes a great student. Lampwick is who throws him off that course and leads him to Toyland (where Pleasure Island is inspired from). This is after a lot of the previous chapters where he causes trouble but at this point in the story it shows how much he's learned but that he's not perfect and can still be tricked and led, as all humans can be which IS THE POINT. The best way to describe the new film is that it's from the mindset of people who are coddled and don't think they have to be responsible since it's 'the rest of the world' that's the problem and you can see it in how Pinocchio has 0 agency and everyone else is the bad influence or mean. In the original version, Pinocchio falls for Honest John's lies and words about fame without hesitation because he doesn't know any better; he's a kid so it's very understandable why words of possible fame would sound better than going to school and Pinocchio still made the choice to go. It was only when Stromboli captured him did it come to him how he messed up because he put his trust in the wrong people. Later with Pleasure Island, he smokes, drinks, and destroys things with the other children without a care but gets sick from the cigar smoke and later turns halfway into a donkey, again because he put his trust into someone instead of listening to Jimminy. In the LA version, Pinocchio is shown as always having the right thoughts but is 'pushed' into doing the wrong thing anyway but says NOTHING in order to get away DESPITE already being right from the get go. THAT right there is trying to paint that Pinocchio was already right and perfect from the start and he doesn't need to learn or earn anything, and it's the rest of the world that's bad as seen from the school bit which is just a too-on-the-nose 'they hate you because you're different' allegory, once again showing that the entire world is negative EXCEPT for Pinocchio, especially at the end where they negate the message of the book about GROWING UP to hammer in the whole 'you're perfect the way you are' message while hiding if Pinocchio became a boy or not, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. This is essentially a movie made by people who claim to love the original but wanted it 'fixed' to fit their way of life which is just constant validation.

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

that's the problem with Disney remakes; wanting to play both sides. They tell the story we already know, but also tell ANOTHER STORY and becomes a mess.

[@olandir]

So is live action movie trying to make an allegory for being LGBTQ? "You're different and special and it's the rest of the world that doesn't accept you for the way you are" kind of thing? That would make sense, especially since it's implied that Pinocchio doesn't really have to "be a real boy" because he already proved he had the qualities that make him that.

[@jcdf2]

Well put. They should have realised that Pinocchio moral vision was that odds with their own and either substantially rewrote the story or just not made it at all.

[@EclipseHedgehog]

i miss when MC's had flaws to overcome. Heck even bad b movies had those. Didn't like them but they had a goal and problems they had to accept in order to grow.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

@@olandir It doesn't make sense because the original story and the original movie wasn't about that. It was about learning what is right about wrong, responsibility, and maturing. The whole 'you're perfect the way you are' is shit shoved in that negates the lessons there but I'm not surprised they'd wanting to remove lessons of learning from your mistakes and becoming a better person.

[@shawnculpepper4589]

Seriously, we're coddling kids why too much. Don Bluth had the right idea. Kids can handle dark themes as long as there's a happy ending.

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

Even when there's a shitty ending, they can handle it dammit

[@Zoloft77]

Same with Jim Hensen when he did The Dark Crystal that children need a bit of horror. Like the Skesis. As horrible as they were, the ending struck me with the notion that evil is always with us as much as the Mystics, and a healthy person can balance both sides. Or Fred Rogers. His show discussed plenty of themes that even the networks and society thought was too heavy handed.

[@DreamDancer82]

@@Zoloft77 What I liked about Mr. Rogers was that he explained it in a way that very young children could understand.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

“Pinocchio lies to grow his nose to get the keys” ? So, Disney literally just stole that from Shrek.

[@disappearingangel4972]

Yes 👏

[@Damianweibler]

So you didnt understand either the original Pinnochio, Shrek, OR the Pinocchio remake

[@peterkrochmalni673]

@@Damianweibler I’m not talking about the fact that Pinocchio’s nose grows when he tells a lie. I’m pointing out the fact that Jiminy Cricket using it as a bridge to get the keys on the wall to help him escape is the same scene from Shrek 2 when Gingy used Pinocchio’s nose to free Shrek, Donkey and Puss. Right down to them encouraging Pinocchio to lie again and again to get his nose long enough to reach them, though I’m pretty sure the Disney remake doesn’t have him saying he’s wearing ladies underwear, that would be too on the nose.

[@patrickmcguire7896]

Part of the problem with this movie is a reflection on current storytelling where they make their heroes too flawless. You see it other movies, TV shows, books and comics. The writer/creators make their characters out to be perfect which no one relates to, plus the only source of conflict comes from outside forces and the heroes never seem to make a mistake fixing the issue

[@TaoScribble]

They say write what you know... In all seriousness, I genuinely wonder if these remakes are a reflection of sheltered and/or flawed upbringings. I see it even in my own workplace more and more often: People aren't used to being challenged, whether that be a stressful customer, accepting training to make them better, or suggestions that would make things easier on them. Many need to be handheld to the point where it seems they don't even think for themselves at all and have no understanding of independence and responsibility. It's all so disheartening.

[@TheFoxFromSplashMountain]

I agree, it instills the idea that nothing bad can or will ever happen to you because you are a perfect individual. It fails to challenge kids and make them question their morality, consider their behaviour and the consequences that may follow, which is what the original Pinocchio was supposed to do. Yes, Disney movies are fantasy, but they still offered important lessons that stuck with us forever. That's why they are still considered so timeless and relevant today.

[@Sercil00]

On the other hand, today's "heroes" often act like total a-holes and sometimes straightup copy villains. Except the writers don't treat that as an intentional flaw, but rather as completely justified power moves.

[@DreamDancer82]

The problem with making your heroes flawless is that they come off looking like a Mary Sue in a badly written fanfiction. Or worse yet, boring. Characters need flaws to make them more well-rounded and interesting. Let me use Jiminy Cricket for an example. He's kind and loyal, and is always looking out for Pinocchio's best interests. But he has flaws, too. For one thing, he has a temper (look at the scene with him and Lampwick for example), he's a bit of a womanizer, and he can be irresponsible (he overslept on his first day as Pinocchio's conscience).

[@Solbrave00]

When you realize that "Other" Pinocchio movie is more appealing than this.

[@animezilla4486]

I disagree with you on that

[@platypusboy0911]

The Pauly Shore one? Or the Guillermo del Toro one?

[@Solbrave00]

@@platypusboy0911 the pauly shore/ memeable one

[@mr.tonberry8032]

@@Solbrave00 I guess you could argue Pauly Shore Pinocchio has agency in that film at least. Like he has goals he wants to achieve and sets out to get what he wants.

[@DreamDancer82]

I think I'll take this version over the Pauly Shore one, thankyouverymuch!

[@bbgunz1705]

Wait, so they changed so that him lying is actually USEFUL? Yeah, cause THAT's a lesson I want to show to children. Seriously, the morals sound so wrong. Also, Pinocchio does the right things the entire time without truly screwing up? Why??? His flaws made him interesting, seeing him do wrong things and learning how to be a good person. And it was completely understandable for him to behave like that, not just because he was a child, but one who was literally born yesterday. Also, I did suspect this film to be more sanitized than the original. I get it, the 'kids turning into donkeys' scene is terrifying, but as an adult I've kind of grown to appreciate how ballsy the Golden Age really was with the scary moments: Snow White running through the forest, Fantasia with the Stegosaurus death and Night on Bald Mountain, Dumbo with Pink Elephants, and Bambi's mom getting shot. Also, it's kind of funny to think about with all of the original's dark moments, it's still the watered-down version of the story. Yeah, I'm glad I've decided to no longer watch these live action remakes and have instead been watching all Walt Disney films in order. It's been fun so far. I'm currently in the Silver Age, and so far, Pinocchio holds the top spot so far. The original Pinocchio is a great film that deserves its title of Classic, and I think I'll just go and rewatch that again. Great review, J.

[@EpicJoshua314]

I don’t believe the intent was to teach a bad moral that lying can get you what you want or it can help you escape. Instead of admitting his wrongdoings to Jiminy, he lies which causes his nose to grow and Jiminy to say “Quit telling those whoppers”. Then when he sees the key he tells a white lie so Jiminy can get it. Then he admits his wrongdoings which causes his nose to shrink back to its normal size. Had he just admitted his wrongdoings instead of lying the Blue fairy would have appeared and unlocked the cage for him.

[@MarkERoth]

They went to all the trouble of giving pleasure Island horrific imagery and then decided to neuter the scene by cutting out the most heartbreaking part.

[@funkim2827]

IKR I WAS WAITING FOR ONE OF THE DONKEYS TO SAY “I wanna go to my mommy or daddy” OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

[@hibikiholmes2867]

"Why have this watered down version when you can just watch the original?" A question that's brought up every time some "genius" decided to make these remakes.

[@moonmeadow]

Exactly

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

It just feels like Pinocchio learns nothing over the course of the story in this version. In the original, while Pinocchio is good natured, it's BECAUSE he's good natured that allows him to be manipulated by Honest John twice in a row. His actions have consequences and he learns what the Good Fairy wanted him to learn from the very beginning. What being a true human is about: being brave, truthful and unselfish. As shown when he puts aside all second thoughts when he goes to rescue his father and even sacrifices his life to save Gepetto before he drowns. The scene where Pinocchio's body is found and brought home where Gepetto calls him his brave little boy as he grieves him speaks to how much Pinocchio has grown throughout the film. And because of that, he is rewarded with life a second time as a human. Here Pinocchio seems to already know what is right and what is wrong and doesn't need to grow or learn anything new. What's the point of that? Where's the character development? Here it seems like Gepetto is the one that needs to grow which would be fine if it wasn't the only arc that needed to be focused on. But Pinocchio by Disney was the story about what it means to be a good person. Here I have no idea what they were trying to say.

[@EpicJoshua314]

He learns that lying is wrong, falls away from temptation and being misguided, and develops his own heart and conscience at the end. He proves himself at the end to be brave, truthful and unselfish.

[@xianartman]

Why? Just why? Why did they do these changes? Pinocchio has always been a morality tale, not an adventure he was thrust into. It was about how his choices led him to earn a blessed life for himself and those around him, when he chose to be better himself.

[@TwilightWolf032]

Ah yes, the classic "the main character can never be wrong and everything bad that happens to them is completely outside of their control" method of story telling that has made several instant classics, like you being fired from the writing board.

[@orionhan2431]

remember Cruella? Disney whitewashed and tried to champion a person that kidnaped puppies to skin them.

[@TwilightWolf032]

@@orionhan2431 "I'm not evil, it's just that dalmatians killed my mom!"

[@olandir]

Well, at least this time people can criticize it openly without being told their sexiest, racist, or other "ist". Pinnochio being a white male puppet allows us to actually explore the movies flaws without the conversation being railroaded like all the other garbage being flushed out of Hollywood that is too "diverse" to be critiqued.

[@amagicalunicorn487]

🤣🤣🤣

[@firstname4382]

@olandir Couldn't they be called out as t-pho bik (idk what words get flagged) with this one? "You've been a real boy this whole time, simply because you identify as one. No magic or biological function necessary!" It wouldn't be surprising if that was the root of ending change, but it's surprising that wasn't used as a shield against critics and a weapon against the original.

[@andyrobin7196]

these live action remakes just rely on nostalgia but they work, the lion king remake was completely soulless but its one of the highest grossing movies of all time, they're never gonna stop making these

[@firecrakerj3312]

It’s sad but true…

[@animezilla4486]

Not as long as the money keeps coming

[@COSun25]

That Lilo and Stitch live-action/CGI remake is still coming & won't even live up to the 2002 original.

[@SeanDahle]

So tired of it

[@user-wl1uz5sb9f]

Things are changing

[@whohangedmyname]

The boat part feels like a reference to the incredibles when Helen turns into a boat and Dash that acts like the motor :(

[@Nonjola]

I think Monstro's new design is supposed to be closer to his design in the original story, where he is actually a mishmash of a whale, a shark, and a traditional sea monster.

[@joegreen3802]

Yeah, but it sadly didn't look all that good.

[@battybuddy]

I thought he was just a giant shark...

[@MrTbk1701]

Back in the day when they used more models for Star Trek they would call this kit bashing. Basically just taking different parts from different ships and glueing them together. That’s how Monstro felt.

[@orionhan2431]

the original Pinochio as well as Disney other fairy tales have never been faithful and that's the point. It's often better. The new remakes take the good changes and replace it with bad and stupid ideas. How much do you want to bet the change was so they dont want to offend whale humpers at PETA

[@MrTbk1701]

@@orionhan2431 I am very well aware of that. I have read all of the source materials from many a Disney production. I’m back from a time when people read books. We should all thank Disney because the cricket in the book is killed by Pinocchio in like the first or 2nd chapter.

[@timedasher]

I agree 100%, when I saw this version the message that it seems to push is that "Pinocchio is perfect as he is, and it's Geppetto's fault for trying to change him into something that he's not, that the bad stuff happens to Pinocchio" , so this remake does NOT understand not only the 1940 animated version, but also it doesn't get the message on the original book , on that "kids who behave nicely and heard advices will get a great reward, and if they don't follow the rules their actions will bring nasty consequences"

[@papahudz69]

I hate when new authors do their own take on classic stories. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Awesome review as always J, hope M is doing well

[@papahudz69]

@Bluespirit PREACH 👏👏👏👏

[@Nateiliand]

I don't mind it if authors do their own take on stories, I mean, a lot of Disney movies are their own takes on classic tales, but at least do them well. If you wanna stick to the original, stick to it, if you don't, don't, but don't half ass it like this, my God.

[@Penguindude1]

The Good News and the Bad News: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmiqooarjtZ8adk "Merry Christmas, Tommy! Look, it's Geppetto on DVD!"

[@papahudz69]

@@Nateiliand YESSSSSS

[@EpicJoshua314]

Tell that to Jon Favreau (The Lion King) and Niki Caro (Mulan), those movies were far more perfect the way they are and remaking them benefitted nothing. Pinocchio was remade to retell a 1940 story, go deeper with it, for a 2022 audience while keeping pretty much the same story as the original but with enough changes and originality to define itself from the original… unlike The Lion King.

[@TheFoxFromSplashMountain]

The whole point of the original donkey scene was that drinking and smoking are BAD and dangerous. The movie wasn't encouraging those things, it was actively trying to scare kids into NOT to doing them. How did they manage miss the point this spectacularly? Smh.

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

all these disney remakes do is make me appreciate the ogs more ( even the ones i didnt care for before )

[@animezilla4486]

@Bluespirit I think the new generation of kids that hasn't seen the original may enjoyed this more than the adults does

[@xianartman]

@@animezilla4486 you are probably right, but I feel that is because they don’t have any better modern option like what the OG were.

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

@@animezilla4486 possibly though even as a kid i liked and disliked certain movies and on top of that if you show the worst movie to someone who never heard of tv they will probs like it better than someone aware of better options ( plus kids could still have seen the ogs we say them and they were already 40-50 years old )

[@riftshredder5438]

When this came out, I went straight to Disney+ grabbed some drinks, and watched the original

[@rickr9111]

And after knowing all of this, is a good thing i dint waste seeing this movie. Great job as always!

[@battybuddy]

I was wondering what the deal with the blue fairy. Her wings dont look like wings, they move like tentacles moving in water and I was like "did they mix the blue fairy up with Ursula?"

[@francreeps4509]

Yeah, I repeatedly pointed out how strange her wings looked when my dad made us watch it. More than that, though, I was kind of put off by the changes made to her personality; I remember her in the original animated movie as this beautiful, gentle figure, almost like a guardian angel to Pinocchio, but in this live action remake she seemed a little dismissive, even being a litle sarcastic as shown in the line "If he wanted a real boy, why did he carve a puppet?" which probably only existed so Jiminy can make a thinly veiled sexual joke and say Gepetto doesnt get out much anymore.

[@battybuddy]

@@francreeps4509 well, when you think about it, why DID he make a puppet?

[@NathanPatrickLane]

@@battybuddy Because he's a woodcarver, so he carved a puppet out of wood?

[@battybuddy]

@@NathanPatrickLane he mostly makes clocks tho.

[@greenliongirl07]

Honestly the live action remakes are getting worse and worse. I think the Little Mermaid will be the real nightmare though based on Disney's varying CGI effects and rumored changes to the story. Then again they put Melissa McCarthy as Ursula and she's terrible! It's not hard making original stories and characters. Plus there's tons of fairy tales, myths and legends all over the world that could be used.

[@MrTbk1701]

I think we have to stop calling them live remakes when they are like 80 percent CG. If it’s not broke don’t fix it.

[@TuesdaysArt]

The animation in the trailer already made me feel motion sickness

[@vermis8344]

I started thinking about Melissa McCarthy adlibbing with CGI octopus effects and now I'm going to have nightmares tonight. Thanks a _bunch._

[@slicerneons3300]

What a surprise, soulless desperate remakes to shamelessly meet the greed margins of corporate shareholders and CEOs are terrible, offensive, poorly written, and an insult to the original. Glad the audiences are not putting up.with it. Eager for your video about the Little Mermaid knockoff getting 2 million downvotes.

[@animezilla4486]

I really don't care what the audience say I didn't think the movie all that bad it doesn't deserve all the hate is getting it's nowhere near as bad as that Mulan remake my opinion. besides some audience are pulling up with it because the remake are still making money

[@sleepykitty8918]

Sometimes I feel like movies wouldn't get even half the backlash if the cast and directors would just keep their mouths shut about criticism or at least not immediately default to to buzzwords that have lost all meaning beyond shutting down speech

[@cardescomedioses3674]

yeah, the pinokio phisics feel really weird, like how he starts a fire on his shoes, it would work great in cartoon, but feels jarring in live action, i believe a truely woody texture would be more appealing, he stands out in a weird way in the puppet show, he is clearly a cartoon trying to blend with les cartoon wood, even thought the other puppets are also CGI, however, guess this one goes to the forgetful shelf

[@jendoe9436]

I wonder if the reason they altered the story so much might also have to do with Dr. Jordan Peterson. He had a series of good lectures and talks on the themes of Pinocchio, which involved responsibility and growing morality. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone with a grudge against JP wrote this version out of spite.

[@MrOgyny]

Thinking the same thing

[@disappearingangel4972]

"Clean your room, accept responsibility, and call your dad!"

[@jendoe9436]

“Reeeeee!!! HaTe sPeEcH!!!!” Me: 😂😂 Hail Lobster

[@sleepykitty8918]

Modern Hollywood is corrupted to the point where most people there no longer know that it's corrupt. Like if a group of people grow up being slapped everyday and they aren't exposed to anyone else that doesn't get hit. It's commonplace for that group so they think it's normal

[@vermis8344]

Talk about cutting off your (elongated) nose to spite your face.

[@cartoonking1789]

Disney has no soul in any of their films anymore

[@AscendantStoic]

Disney 2022: Lying is great kids, it gets you out of problems! 🤥

[@nightwishfan1991]

This is actually a recurring pattern with these remakes it seems where they completely miss the point of the original movie. Pinocchio being a passenger in his own movie and removing responsibility from his bad choices that he makes, giving Mulan magic powers, and Beauty and the Beast where the enchantress barges into the castle instead of knocking on the door thus making her look like an intruder, hiding the castle making it feel like she is stacking the deck, and making Belle somehow destined to find Beast instead of her being a happy accident. Feel free to name other examples below but this is something that I have been noticing. And I'm sure Little Mermaid will also repeat this mistake.

[@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132]

Live action aladdin also did this. What's the point of emphasizing Jasmine's desire for friendship when she has a friend in the remake? If anything it makes her look ungrateful to her friend.

[@nightwishfan1991]

@@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 I skipped Aladdin so this is the first time I am hearing this. That seems to be one of the many problems with these movies is that with how short the originals were because of animation they have to extend them with extra crap to get up to the 90 minute to 2 hour mark. Problem is the originals are well constructed house of cards that were put together meticulously. And by adding more shit or changing the context to certain scenes it causes the whole thing to collapse in the process.

[@CoolG97]

Belle being destined to find the Beast is actually true to the original fairytale, but the circumstances and everything else is changed. Basically in the original there was an evil fairy that cursed Belle (and Beast) and a good fairy that had the two meet to break their respective curses. (Yeah there were like 3 fairytales in one story, it's actually a fun read and answers questions in a way that doesn't feel like it's just closing "plot holes".) Also in Cinderella they decided to give the title character a "character test" right after her first dress is destroyed, what's up with that? In the original (both fairytale and animated) the Fairy Godmother comes in to comfort the poor girl and here she's putting her through a test, did they think the audience needed a reminder that Cinderella was a good person?

[@nightwishfan1991]

@@CoolG97 That's really dumb with the Cinderella thing because at least in the animated movie we see the sisters ripping up the dress she made so you end up feeling bad for the poor girl. But giving her the character test feels like rubbing salt in the wound there. And with Beauty and the Beast that would work if they didn't just half ass it. That's kind of another problem with these remakes is they can't decide if they are a remake of the animated film or the actual story. So they tend to pick and choose elements which fundamentally clash with each other. So if they added the good fairy then it would make sense but sense it is the same enchantress and since Belle is still an innocent bystander it still tears the entire story apart and becomes confused. It's like how Mulan half assed the rabbit metaphor from the original ballad and did it just so they can say "look we included the rabbits" but completely missing the point of it.

[@CoolG97]

@@nightwishfan1991 It honestly gave me Snow White vibes and I'm sure that wasn't the intention. And I really hate when they do the callbacks without the follow through. Cinderella-Look her father gives for a branch like in the Grimm's tale. It never comes up again, when the animated version homages the scene by having the Godmother appear under a willow. Beauty and the Beast-Belle asks for a rose, so Maurice takes a detour from escaping to cut a flower angering the Beast more. What was wrong with making him a trespasser? Cruella-See Estella and Anita in school together. No mention that Cruella was a bully who made the lives of anyone not her "friend" miserable. And yeah a lot of modern adaptations tend to combine the fairies, Disney at least had the thought to not bring her back at the end the first time. (The remake actually frames it as Belle didn't really break the spell on her own, the Enchantress did.)

[@michaelfireheart8300]

Disney as Shrek's Fairy Godmother: Creative integrity, what's that? Let's just add a cup of making all of fantasy characters be black cause they're fictional, add a dash of unnecessary characters like the black girl with a metal crutch, just a tablespoon of plot convenience that wasn't there like Pinocchio getting scooped up by a donkey carriage, and finish with just a touch of PANDERING!!! *laughs evilly at the nasty concoction*

[@Asaylum117]

Remember the days when entertainment weather it be movies, TV shows, music, video games, art and many other media were created from actual passion, creativity, imagination, hard work & talent? Good times! Too bad that they are slowly fading away & a lot of modern entertainment are made without any of those things.

[@disappearingangel4972]

The scene where Pinocchio gets kicked out of school because he's a puppet really raises some eyebrows. In that village where he and Gepetto live, there are many talking animals, a talking cricket, and a Blue Fairy that grants you wishes when you wish upon a star. A walking, talking puppet wouldn't look out of place in school. What's the point of this butchered remake?

[@firecrakerj3312]

Honest John was the movie’s only redeeming quality. Oh well, at least we’ll have the upcoming Del Toro version as well as Disney’s upcoming animated movies.

[@animezilla4486]

I don't know I thought the Pinocchio character was okay he really is likable

[@firecrakerj3312]

@@animezilla4486 And it’s okay if you think that, don’t let me or anyone else take away your enjoyment.

[@EpicJoshua314]

I really enjoyed Luke Evans, Joseph Gordon Levitt, and Benjamin Evan Ainsworth’s performances in this movie. For the latter, this was his first major role in a movie and he had to voice a character in an American accent, and despite that he absolutely nailed it.

[@barrankobama4840]

I believed these Disney CGI remakes were soulless (tentative) cash-grab. But they are much worse actually. First Mulan, now Pinocchio, they are not satisfied with remake the movie, they also want to cancel what made those stories special. Mulan's story was about working hard, Pinocchio's story was about making choices and understand the consequences of your choices. The original Disney movies changed a lot from their source material, but they were true to the fundamental soul of those stories. These remakes cancel them completely. And this is horrible. We humans are our stories, and our stories are precious.

[@davidgusquiloor2665]

Modern story tellers seem to dislike and run away from morality tales, so they probably chaged the story to suit what they imagined was more interesting, ignoring why the original Disney version told the story like it told it. Also removing the drinking and smoking, and how horrifying the original transformation was makes this too steryle. And there is no point in this movie when the original was a masterpiece of animation, this doesn't push it's own medium at all.

[@SeanDahle]

And the little Mermaid remake's gonna end up the same way

[@francreeps4509]

The cgi kind of put me off with this movie. Pinocchio himself looks so odd, I think it would have been a better choice to give him a more realistic appearance. Gepetto's pets looked quite uncanny too, Cleo the goldfish in particular. Honest John and Gideon...ehhh...the best I can say is that they were nightmare fuel. Also, Honest John unironically using the term "influencer" and referencing Chris Pine was...eye-roll inducing.

[@HighHeelKnight]

07:02 = "There's one joke where Pinocchio stops to smell manure in the middle of the road. Why is this here?" Every kid/family friendly movie has to have a least one fart, poop, or toilet joke. ALL OF THEM!! I have no idea why. I don't know when the trend started, but it has been going on for decades. The earliest I can recall is the numerous fluctuance moments and jokes about Pumba from the original animated Lion King movie. I'm sure toilet humor had been used before in other productions, but I think that was the first mainstream mega successful movie that brought farting to the forefront of a character in a family film. Maybe Pumba was to kids movies as bullet time was to action movies. My parents and I watched the movie yesterday. We enjoyed it very much. The only thing I didn't like was how Jiminy Cricket was put through the ringer for the whole movie, and was abandoned by Pinocchio at the end with no kind of thanks or goodbye or acknowledgement. Wazupwitdat? 🤷‍♀

[@LordKraken3]

I'm just gonna watch my blu-ray copy of the original instead of this remake.

[@lygonthereddragon]

how do i feel about Disney's Pinocchio live action movie?... it makes me more excited for Guillermo del Toro's version of Pinocchio

[@Acesahn]

Shows the warped morals of the times. The original was trying to teach you to avoid temptation and better yourself. The remake tells you the system is rigged and you can't win from the get go.

[@EquesTron]

Very sad that not too long ago, you were praising Zemeckis' Who Framed Roger Rabbit for its visuals and story, only to see his latest movie being called a visual and narrative mess. I haven't seen it myself, but the negative word of mouth got around super fast. I do plan on checking it out at some point, but it's not high on my list of priorities.

[@animezilla4486]

I still think he's a great director. I just saw the movie and I can straight up to you it's not as bad as people make it out to be the only ones that seem to have a problem with it are the ones who watch the original I for one don't really hate it it does have problems but otherwise it was an okay film

[@realistfromrussia1244]

Even the professionals has their expiry date. Example: Brad Bird created Iron Giant, The Incredibles, Ratatouille; but his sequel to the Incredibles sucks a sock.

[@sbart652]

This movie is the living prove of "little changes can change something for thr worse or for the better". This time it was for the worse. I think they didn't want to use the Fairy that much since they saw her as a living plot-device. But by doing that, they made the New characters to be literally Deus-ex-machinas and walking plot convinences. In the original, the blue fairy only helped pinocchio by giving him clues and then it was on his own. Here, the New characters are literally just there to easy things up for the main characters. Making the writing objectively worse than the original. More characters are not making your story more complex if you don't know how to use them. I also wanna point out how the ending is the definition of Hypocritical. Pinocchio did nothing wrong and yet he is still not rewarded. He didn't actually lie (the scene in the Cage is bullshit, since besides the "i don't wanna be a real boy" nothing he said was a lie) and he didn't disobey. He was always manipulated and basically gaslighted into doing bad things. Yet the movie treats it at his fault. I have seen this interpretation that "is that the messeage is about coping and knowing some things don't change but you can change your point of view about it", but in that case, is incredibly toxic, since is basically tells you "you will get abuse but if you see it on a different angle, it won't Hurt as much" and "no matter how hard you try, you can't change, therefore trying is meaningless and you should just be happy with how you are now". Both of them end up with Pinocchio getting abused and being punished by it. A terrible messeage for a terrible remake

[@christina74829]

5:46 Did Disney just copy Dash from The Incredibles in that one scene? 🙄😂

[@MasterDecoy1W]

I'd bet good money that their monstrous Blue Fairy didn't test well, so they created alternative versions of the scenes where it would have appeared.

[@onepresence9460]

Modern Walt Disney expectations: Creating original animated and live-action stories, making new animation art styles for both 2D and 3D and exploring interesting concepts. Modern Walt Disney reality: Making pointless and soulless live-action remakes without knowing what made the originals great and destroying franchises like Star Wars. Old Disney >>>> New Disney.

[@SamuraiMotoko]

Will deltoro save the year of Pinocchio?

[@arkbien9303]

I hope to God he can.

[@Demolitiondude]

The modern writers wants to Bury the classic as its the only version.

[@mariechen4375]

This remake is awful. It completely misses the point of the original. I made a list of everything I hated about the Pinocchio live action remake: 1. Pinocchio has the soul of Geppetto’s dead son. This makes Geppetto look even worse than in the animated movie. In the original I can forgive him his mistakes because I know he’s new at being a father and therefore doesn’t know yet how to be perfect at it but if he had a son before like in this remake, he should know that you have to take your child to school yourself! Also, this change makes Pinocchio look like a replacement which I hate. In the original he made him because he wished for a child so badly because he was lonely and never had one. In this version he basically wishes for a replacement son! 2. Geppetto still doesn’t take Pinocchio to school himself! Why don’t they finally fix that? This is one of the few things of the animated version that actually should be fixed! So why don’t they finally fix that? They should learn from the 2019 Italian version! 3. Pinocchio goes to school and is kicked out because he is a puppet. What????? Why?????? He should ditch school and go to the theater instead because he should be naughty at the beginning and make mistakes because this is a story about redemption!!!! Seriously, this destroys the entire moral of the story if he is completely innocent at the beginning! In this version it’s completely justified that he goes to the theater instead of taking the easy road to success! The entire moral of the story that you shouldn’t misbehave and should go to school instead of taking the easy road is lost! 4. He only reluctantly agrees to go to the theater, very reluctantly. Come on! He should be enthusiastic about being an actor and about taking the easy road to success! Here, he only agrees to be an actor because he had no other choice! The teacher even said puppets belong in the puppet show! So, he really had no other choice than to go there instead of going there to take the easy road to success like in the original! Ugh!!!! 5. The ballerina in the theater seems like his love interest! He is far too young to have a girlfriend and Pinocchio is a story about the love between father and son not romantic love!!!! And it should stay that way! This love interest only distracts from that and adds nothing to the story! It’s completely unnecessary!!! 6. He escapes the cage by lying! That’s a very bad moral! In the original he learns that lying is bad and that it doesn’t help him! Here, they make it seem like lying helps you out! How can you convey such a bad moral???? 7. He is captured to got to Pleasure Island and he only very reluctantly agrees to go with them! Once again, the entire moral of the story is lost!!!! He should at least agree to go with them himself and not say that he doesn’t wanna go there on the coach! like that he seems even more innocent! The whole moral is lost! He should change from a bad boy to a good boy!!! That’s the entire point of the story! Here, the development is nonexistent! 8. On the Island he disagrees with everything the children do wrong, and he refuses to misbehave! Like that he really doesn’t deserve to be turned into a donkey! And once again the entire moral of the story about misbehaving is lost because he doesn’t even misbehave! He is perfect at the beginning and perfect at the end! There is no development! 9. Stromboli is sent to prison and the ballerina takes over the theater. But I don’t understand for what Stromboli is send to prison because he didn’t really commit a crime! It’s not illegal to imprison a puppet so for what did they put him in prison? 10. He loses the ears and tail when he decides not to go the theater again but to search his father. Seriously? That’s all it takes to break the curse? In the original he breaks the curse by sacrificing his life for his father! Here, he breaks it by deciding to do something that he should do anyway and which he was already doing! 11. They find Geppetto before he is swallowed by the whale and he and Pinocchio are swallowed at the same time. Like that the reunion scene is not as emotional as in the animated movie or the book! Especially since they were only separated for a day not over a year like in the book or at least a few weeks as in the animated movie (because spider webs can’t grow overnight, he had to have been away for at least a few weeks). Like that the touching reunion scene is missing which is my favorite scene in most versions! (It’s especially touching in the 2019 version) Everything that is tragic is taken away especially if Geppetto was only in the whale for two minutes instead of over a year or at least weeks! 12. The story takes place on only two days! That’s too much story for such a short time! And besides they have no idea what’s the difference between narrated time and reading time! 13. And now the worst part: the ending! They messed up absolutely everything! Pinocchio doesn’t sacrifice himself for his father and doesn’t prove himself doing so! Instead Geppetto is the one who dies and is brought back without a proper explanation just by Pinocchio’s magical tears! Ok, first off, that’s stolen from tangled! And secondly, Pinocchio should die by sacrificing his life for his father to prove himself, become a real boy and break the curse! There is absolutely no reason for Geppetto to die and especially not to be brought back completely without a proper explanation!!! In the original the revival is justified because Pinocchio is transformed into a real boy because he sacrificed himself! Here, there is no real explanation how Geppetto was even brought back except through the tears which are now magical without an explanation! They messed up everything about the ending!!!! Everything!!!! You can’t even say it’s from the book, there it was completely different: In the book, Geppetto was only very ill, he never died, and Pinocchio has to go working to help him! Here, Pinocchio does nothing for his father! He doesn’t even save him from the whale because Geppetto dies, and Pinocchio doesn’t sacrifice himself! Ugh, this should be the great moment: this is where he changes and puts someone else’s needs before his for the first time after all he did! Here, this great moment is completely missing!!!!! This ruins the entire story! There is absolutely no development from a bad boy to a good one! 14. And he doesn’t even turn into a real boy at the end!!! Are you kidding me?????? That’s what the entire story of Pinocchio is about! It’s about a puppet who transforms in to a real boy because of his love for his father!!! How can you miss that??? How can you change something important as that??? At first I thought I could forgive some mistakes but not with that ending!!! After that ending I knew I hated that movie!!! It’s the worst live action remake ever!!! Edit: A couple more Things I hated that I forgot to add: 15. I also hated that They Cut the Song little wooden head because it's such a cute Song that Shows how much Geppetto loves Pinocchio and how much He wishes to have a son. The New Songs aren't good in my opinion and don't Show the Love of a father that well. 16. I also hated that The Scene where Pinocchio Burns His Finger was so short and was almost completely Cut. Because this Scene is actually symbolic: At First in the Story Geppetto saves Pinocchio by stopping the fire and later their roles are reversed because later Pinocchio saves Geppetto from drowning at the end. The book equivalent of this Scene is the Scene where Pinocchio Burns His feet Off and Geppetto Takes Care of him and makes him New feet. Then at the end of the book their roles are reversed and then Pinocchio Takes Care of His father. Disney changed the Part of taking Care of each other to saving each other's lives. So the Scene where He Burns His Finger is actually a pretty important Scene that is symbolic and it shouldn't have been Cut down so much. But then again the Remake also completely ruined the ending so the role reversal is completely non existent. Another reason to hate this Remake. It ruined absolutely everything!!!

[@Nateiliand]

I haven't watched the movie, but, why would the writters think a movie where things happen to the protagonist instead of the protagonist taking action to be interesting? That makes the character kind of replaceable, doesn't it? Also my guess is that they wanted to represent trans people with that ending (or with Pinocchio in general)??? I don't know 😅 I don't understand anything, let's see how the Little Mermaid comes out

[@olandir]

I thought the same thing about it being LGBTQ messaging. - He gets kicked out of school, implying that the "world" doesn't accept him - He's already good and upright and exactly how it should be. It's "others" that are bad and trying to ruin him. He doesn't really make "wrong" decisions, he's just being "pushed" by society. - He was always "a real boy" and doesn't need to change and always had all the values that make him good, that's why it's ambiguous that he turns into a boy at the end because it's established, he never really needed to be one. A lot of recent movies seem to have this messaging of "being good just the way you are" which isn't necessarily "bad" on the surface, but when you undermine character growth and character arc in that way, it actually sends a bad message "you never need to change, you never need to learn, you never need to grow, you're always right, everyone else is always wrong." That's not the same message as "accepting yourself." because they are stripping characters of their "flaws."

[@DarkTider]

Funny enough, my exam assignment in 9th grade, over 20 years ago, was on adaptations, and I focused on Pinocchio, where, amongst other things, I talked about how watered down the 1940s version was compared to the book, and how many of those changes had been made to accomodate to how the sensibilities of the 40s mandated the cartoon version be watered down and made milder compared to the book in order to be considered "appropriate" for more modern kids.... This remake certainly puts THAT discussion into a new perspective -_-

[@quintinbrakebill8875]

I found the cuckoo clock scene more annoying than cute, one Disney related clock would be a fine Easter egg but here they’re ALL Disney related. This is just Disney shoving its products in our faces, this would have been cute as a commercial but in a full length film, this is just shameless.

[@MegaGlassguy]

I finally had the chance to watch Guillermo Del Toro's version of Pinocchio and not only was it a good time but (slight spoilers below) I'm flabbergasted to realize that several of these bizarre new additions are actually apart of his story, but are also GOOD because the story is actually made with those elements as plot points and not just random stuff to pad the runtime. And that's not even accounting the fact that Pinocchio does make bad choices before realizing that what he's doing is wrong. Disney is so creatively bankrupt that they basically made a poorman's Del Toro Pinocchio.

[@vermis8344]

It wasn't until this video that I realised how many points and messages were turned completely backwards in this film. It's mind boggling. It's like... if the boy who cried wolf was just trying to subvert the stuffy old villagers' ways and the fact he got eaten was all their fault for being so... liarphobic.

[@AL-ws5yi]

It’s ironic. I got an ad for Disney world before this video. I’m so done with live remakes. Hoping M is doing well.

[@bbgunz1705]

Yeesh. With the negative reception this film is getting, I'm scared to see what's they're going to do to the Little Mermaid. Is it really true that the trailer currently has about 2 million dislikes?

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Yup. The TLM trailer got 2 million dislikes against 200K likes. I guess that's what happens when you race swap a beloved character and shoehorn identity politics into the story. Apparently making an innocent romantic fantasy is offensive these days.

[@TuesdaysArt]

@@vetarlittorf1807 Why can't a black mermaid be a main character in an innocent fantasy romance story? 🤨

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@@TuesdaysArt I didn't say that they couldn't. What I'm against is race swapping under any circumstance, regardless if the character was white or black. Ariel is a white character and therefore I'm against making her black. For the same reason why I would be against making Blade white. If they wanted a movie about a black mermaid, they should've just come up with an original story.

[@TuesdaysArt]

@@vetarlittorf1807 I honestly would prefer an original movie about a black princess who isn't a frog for at least half of the runtime...though I also know how much this casting decision means to black women/girls and I don't want to disparage that.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@@TuesdaysArt I've noticed more black people being against this casting decision than for it. Race swapping is generally pretty controversial. People were not very fond of making the Blue Fairy a bald black woman in the Pinocchio remake for example. Same goes with making the Ancient One a white woman in Doctor Strange.

[@mauhi2318]

Amazing Review/ Analysis. Actual passion in these reviews. When I was a kid and saw Pinocchio the pleasure island scene was a great scene I was entralled with the place and slowly feared it, as they slowly pealed the reality of the place. Lampuik Screaming for his mom when he transformed. I never forgot that thiers a price for too good of a deal, and doing wrong normally has consequences.

[@user-fd5nz5lo7m]

The sene where Pinocchio frees himself by lying is literally the same concept as in Shrek 2. The same franchise where Geppetto literally sold Pinocchio to Farquaad`s knights. They unironically used a parody of the main character.

[@ZackTheThunderking]

I'll wait for guillermo del toro's version

[@gregorbaby4269]

I agree with the channels opinion... The design of main character is eery to me as well.. He's way more moralistic for the story & his eyes look lifeless as well. And why did they put modern day easter eggs & references in story that is put into 19th century Italy. Even when Genie from Aladdin does it it feels out of place (though it's nontheless funny)

[@boringrays]

a miss each time with these live action movies my only question is how can people continue to make these movies a success each time

[@youseineko]

I haven’t seen the film, but from the reviews, including this one, it sounds like another case of Hollywood refusing to let their protagonists ever do anything immoral. They must be perfect and admirable at all times, or else anything bad they do must be annoying at most. This makes it impossible to tell a morality story because the characters can’t learn from their mistakes and grow if they don’t make any mistakes or have any legitimate flaws. It sounds like in this version of Pinocchio, the point is for him to be “brave, truthful, and unselfish” by never giving into any of these temptations. The problem with that approach is he literally doesn’t have a conscience! He’s a puppet! He doesn’t know right from wrong, so he has to LEARN to be brave, truthful, and unselfish, with Jiminy Cricket’s help. Making Pinocchio perfect from the start defeats the entire point.

[@sleekemu356]

You should see the 1996 Pinocchio. It's has similar elements to this remake but the 1996 does stuff better even if the movie isn't good

[@Nonjola]

What does an influencer even do? This always sounds like a fantasy career to me.

[@ggrarl]

I believe that's a fancy term for saying you're a leech, and not the medical kind.

[@WillScarlet16]

Robert Zemeckis pretty much always misses the point when he adapts anything.

[@harlannguyen4048]

He's done other adaptations?

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

@@harlannguyen4048 A christmas Carol, but that one was fine

[@WillScarlet16]

@@harlannguyen4048 His version of The Witches - another piece of trash made from a great book. Then there's Mars Needs Moms (cringe) and Polar Express, a great story that Zemeckis smothered in over-the-top special effects and cheap spectacle.

[@WillScarlet16]

@@ClaudetteVioletta That movie missed out on a lot of key points too - Zemeckis always buries a story's meaning in over-the-top pyrotechnics and has the actors scream their lines at top volume instead of actually acting, so there's no room for the actual message to break through.

[@Adamatronamus]

I'd rather see blood in my stool than any Disney remake.

[@lavenderplace8591]

Jiminy looks creepy! 😨

[@TuesdaysArt]

He's surprisingly better than I expected. Disney Live Action trained me to expect hyper-realistic nightmare fuel Jiminy, so having the animators realize they need their anthropomorphic animal characters to be able to emote is surprising to me. Maybe my standards are absurdly low at this point.

[@onepresence9460]

What modern Disney SHOULD DO more often - Make high quality original content like Encanto. What modern Disney SHOULD NOT DO more often - Make bland and soulless live-action remakes like Pinocchio (2022). When will you ever learn, Disney?

[@deanthomas7003]

Thanks for the review J.👍 This movie was a mistake.

[@onepresence9460]

Instead of Disney using the money for more experimental and interesting long form animation both as series and movies, trying different unique art styles for both 2D and 3D, they use it for more soulless and pointless cash grabs live-action remakes that nobody asked for. I missed the time when Walt Disney Animation was very innovative. I will always love and respect the old school Disney. If you excuse me, i will go rewatch 1940’s Pinocchio and never touch the live-action one. Now i’m very excited for Guillermo Del Toro’s Stop-Motion Pinocchio tho. It looks beautiful 👌

[@guilherme5094]

Please Disney stop!! Have some dignity!

[@wilfredomartinez2068]

Pinocchio always PO me because the villains did horrible things to children and were never punished, you'd think if they were going to change anything it would be that.

[@SonicHedgehog1991]

I'll never understand why companies keep trying to please the wrong demographic. It's impressive how they always managed to gleefully ignore all the red flags and double down on their bad decisions.

[@TheWispGuy]

The reason Jiminy doesn't know if Pinocchio became a human or not is because, after the encounter with Monstro, he decided to ditch Pinocchio and Geppeto right then and there before he could be bothered to turn around and find out. Okay not really, but it makes as much sense as anything else. I haven't even bothered to watch this one. It just didn't look good from what I saw. Getting really tired of these live action remakes, especially when they seem to miss the point more often than not. I'm doubting The LIttle Mermaid will be good, and dread seeing how they'll approach Lilo and Stitch.

[@TuesdaysArt]

What a crummy conscience

[@MrDj232]

But was it worse than the Pauly Shore version?

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

It kind of depends on the person watching it. The Pauly Shore version is bad but in an entertaining way, while the Disney live action one is 'functionable'. Personally, I would take the Pauly Shore one, because while it IS bad, it's not as much of a chore to watch. Pinocchio: A True Story is like watching a puppet version of 'The Room'. Pinocchio: Disney Remake is like watching a live action Disney remake.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

I think we all know the answer to that.

[@MrDj232]

@@KeybladeMasterAndy Had to pause for a while and just got to the part about Pinocchio vs Sharktopus. I'll take the Pauly Shore version over that any day.

[@slash10gamerofgamers82]

A ad just came on about Disney+ showing Pinocchio 2022 in the middle of the video

[@Jane-ow7sr]

Ok but like, I actually like John and Gideons looks 😅 I dunno why. Maybe it's Gideon's slightly cartoonish face and Johns white gloves.

[@Sleepycat482]

What, a Disney live action remake ruining the themes and lessons of the original movie? Say it ain't so 🙄.

[@liljenborg2517]

In the original Pinnocchio makes bad choices and faces bad consequences. And he makes good choices and there are rewards. In this new version there ARE NO good or bad choices. The thing that causes the problems is the teacher's discrimination, the exploitative (racist) Puppet master. It's not that they don't get Pinocchio, it's that they DISAGREE with it's moral. This movie is telling its audience that the problems you face aren't because of YOUR bad choices, but because of the discrimination and exploitation by OTHERS, and that becoming a "real boy" (vs. becoming an inhuman jackass) isn't the goal, it's all about accepting who you already are and accepting others because you don't NEED to become a "real boy" to be awesome. They're intentionally trying to reframe the fundamental moral of the story.

[@TuesdaysArt]

I feel like the movie could've been elevated if they had a more nuanced take. Sometimes, the world isn't fair and society will force you to do things you aren't okay with. However, you aren't completely helpless and still have the power to make the right decision when it's possible.

[@Jac2Mac]

I would have preferred it if Disney instead did a movie called Stromboli which would retell the story of Pinocchio from Stromboli's point of view and make him the good guy and Geppetto would be the main villain of the story who would be an alcoholic, abusive foster parent who would have lines like as he is drunk at the start of the movie, "Stupid cat! stupid fish! Stupid kid!" and Fabiana would be another villain who wants to take over Stromboli's puppet show by force and is in cahoots with Geppetto and her puppet would also be an evil ballerina puppet who wants nothing more than to make Pinocchio's life a living hell and the movie would end with Geppetto being defeated by being knocked into the ocean where Monstro would eat him.

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

Please people stop paying to see these movies.

[@kingjamization]

As if Disney and KZbin didn't have anything more underhand I get an add for this EXACT movie!

[@luma4902]

I liked honest John and monstro new designs that is it. The monstro i think is important to not make actual whales the villains to a generation like what happened with Jaws. The fairy is almost good with the dress, the long drip earring and the wand but they should style blue hair on the actress in my opinion and take the other earring out and actually use the character as the original

[@rash_punk2815]

getting tired of these live action cash grabs

[@Ahturos]

Now most every Disneyclassic is a dear movie to me as I think they are pinnacle of movie making. Art in it´s greatest form. Compare to any movie of the time and see how many lasted through all the years. Like when I hear people say "Well original Pinnochio was wonky with it´s logic and jumps from scene to scene". Yes as a big animated movie it is hard to get the budget to work and do what you can to complete the movie. You don´t get exactly everything to fill it in, you take the most important parts to complete the movie. And with that Pinocchio still works, do we need to see why Gepetto went out to the ocean? No. I think there were a deleted scene showing him getting swallowed by Monstro but the scene in the movie is MUCH more powerful. And Monstro man Monstro is scary nothing in Disney scares me more then the levianthan that is unstopalbe, with those sounds and murder in it´s eye. Where was I? Yes I don´t know if someone think the message of Pinocchio somehow is wrong "become like everyone else." Hey sometimes that is what someone wishes to be, if it is belonging, let people have thier dreams. Some are physical some or accepting who they are. It´s not one is wrong and one is´t. It is personal Pinocchio wanted to be real flesh and fufill Gepettos life and hopefully gain his own life after that. And yes making him super powered is just stupid. I watched a scene from the 1996 Pinocchio where he uses lies to make his nose grow, yes it helped him but he broke his nose showing consequences and sacrafice from lying. I get it 100 people like to throw in thier opinion. I am sure if we here in the comments tried to write a script we would fight over it, someone be more bossy and others just going along with it. Disney is just putting upp more problems when it is a remake.

[@Macaco_Gotico]

i always thought they're gonna make a mess with one of walt disney's favorite works, but i didn't knew it was THAT bad

[@twindrill2852]

If you want a good Pinocchio movie that isn’t the original, I recommend De Toro’s stop motion remake. It’s not released quite yet, but you can tell it’s made with passion and love.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Using the old design, but changing the message because racism is bad or something like that. Some interesting ideas with Pleasure Island, but no real teeth from the sound of it.

[@jcdf2]

I don't think was any accusations of racism against the old film. That said all the new characters are women of colour, so that trend continues apace.

[@howzyerfather]

Why does the Blue Fairy look like a guy in drag? :(

[@SevenEllen]

That's Cynthia Erivo!

[@mr.smiles3212]

Great breakdown

[@mtan1293]

To think Pinocchio is a crucial project for Disney cause its soundtrack is the anthem of Disney itself.

[@DreamDancer82]

There were a couple of parts I did find funny. Not many, though. I also think that making Pinocchio a Goody-Two Shoes really ruined the message of the movie, especially the infamous nose growing scene. What's that supposed to tell people? Lying can be a good thing sometimes? I also think the female puppeteer and the girl puppet were unnecessary. I get it, maybe they're trying to include more female characters for inclusivity reasons, and I can get behind that, but they just don't add anything to the plot in my opinion (I happen to be of the female persuasion, and the 1940 Pinocchio is my all time favorite Disney animated movie). Truthfully, I only watched it for Figaro (he was so adorable in this! He's adorable in both. What can I say? I'm a crazy cat lady).

[@xSoporific1]

Gonna watch the original movie after this, haven’t seen it in ages

[@tristanhartup4936]

I'm more looking forward to the Guillermo del Toro version

[@MrJigglebits]

the thing about these remakes is that the originals are available and easy to find, many in 4k even. why not remake the older films that have never seen proper home releases or lost to time

[@emmanueldedmon6690]

Great video

[@sjmhadsock4586]

Yeah I can see what you mean to me it felt like the movie was put on fast forward

[@doesntmatter5857]

Pinocchio's heroic journey into the uncanny valley.

[@TuesdaysArt]

I'm guessing the remake didn't include the "jackass" line...

[@lesliea.1019]

It actually did surprisingly

[@TuesdaysArt]

@@lesliea.1019 Really? Dang, I thought they would've cut that out along with the cigars and alcohol.