Disney Streaming Finally Profitable (Sort Of!) After Conservative Shift! But Star Wars Still Dead

[@grocamol]

Never believe it Arch, never forget what they did to everything in their grip. Never let down your guard.

[@reggie6230]

He's afraid the pendulum is swinging too hard. Vids like this feel like hes trying to slow it a tad, which I dont get. Give an inch to these types...

[@Jaegerrants]

​@@reggie6230Because he's worried of the cencor happy people on the other side taking the inch and going with it. Some of us are old enough to remember Jack Thompson and the co before Sarkeesians going at entertainment. Horse shoe theory is the truth.

[@IRMentat]

@@reggie6230we have seen “conservative” interference in people’s lives in fairly recent living memory. crushing the maniac left basically mandates also slapping down every right side maniac grasping at the still warm levers that we know just crowbarred the other lot away from. As you say, give an inch. So we cannot allow either sides maniacs to eff with people’s private lives.

[@draconariusa7v421]

@@reggie6230 He's paranoid about 90s style 'trad'cons taking control (a group with little to no influence in the modern landscape) just because some of them stirred up shit on twitter, I don't get it. Either he's overblowing it or he is deliberately trying to hamper the right's advance. I hope it isn't the latter.

[@Solon_The_Lich]

@@grocamol What, Disney Did Movies? And They're not straight up CSAM? I'm Surprised, still not bothering to give money

[@Mrlighthouse1000]

We are not gonna forgive any corporation for their woke grift just because they are having a temporary "change of mind", we are crashing the entire entertainment market with no survivors

[@flatterkatz]

you may. but most people? if disney puts out good stuff again, most people will watch it

[@reggie6230]

That flatterkatz, is why you keep forcing them to look at what these weirdos do, not the shiny jangly keys they are vigorusly shaking so you stop looking at their antics behind the scenes.

[@draconariusa7v421]

Have we started the fire?

[@Marinealver]

​@@flatterkatz good stuff will at the very least be atonement. But have no fear, so far they only put out non-apologies and barely acceptable content, which simply is NOT enough.

[@Mrlighthouse1000]

@@flatterkatz Normies and tourists are nearly as bad as DEI hires

[@s13gouf60]

Never had a D+ account, and never will.

[@RandgrisAlmark]

I wish I could lose enough money to tank a small country and still have a job.

[@Lagbeard]

Catering to an audience that spends money is profitable, who would've thought.

[@Solon_The_Lich]

WHOWOUDATHUNKIT!?

[@georgebailey8179]

And I was so close to folding. I think if they'd called me a racist misogynist just one more time, I'd have given them all my money. If only they'd stayed the course...

[@reggie6230]

Still not giving them a penny here. Call me the greatest danger to society for decades, and NOW that they're going bankrupt its suddenly "please forgiv i swowwy?" No. Just no.

[@Schlumpsha]

The Skeleton Crew, being true to its name, is all that remains from Star Wars' cold corpse. Anything more and it will rise as a Zombie Wars in Space.

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

I wouldn't mind an epic adventure where space wizards fight zombies. Reminds me of Skeleton Warriors, which I barely remember outside its overall aesthetic and when they call out the title during the opening, much like Cadilacs and Dinosaurs (I can barely remember anything because I was young when these shows were airing, but they left a strong impression).

[@mikkelnpetersen]

I have wanted a "band of brothers clone wars", less jedi, more clones for along time. But after Disney made the first in their trilogy I was 100% sure that I didn't want them to touch Star Wars any more, and I still think that.

[@MrLolguy93]

It only took them losing only several billion dollars to get the point 😂

[@Xylospring]

I want to see them finally throw in the towel and go with George's initial thoughts for a Sequel trilogy. Would have to be better than what Disney has mostly attempted.

[@RevanR]

Dang Bluey must be break her back for carrying Disney+

[@inconspicuousiceberg9363]

No mercy No remorse No forgiveness

[@AngryGerbils]

The stick, the stick, and nothing but the stick.

[@shiningcartoonist]

Definitely go under. Smaller companies are more subject to the market forces and can’t absorb blows like 10 billion dollars. Media companies having to pay heavily for stupid and immoral risk taking should be made to feel it hard.

[@dragonturtle2703]

The 2008 clone wars is a good show in isolation. It actively shats on the rest of the Expanded Universe a lot of the time though.

[@Jaegerrants]

pretty much everything post Revenge of the Sith is quilty of that.

[@dragonturtle2703]

@ if it is, Dave Feloni (probably butchered the spelling there) did far worse. Literally sometimes took characters with entire books of them post Order 66 and killed them off as throw away characters. The person who wrote the Mandalorian lore quit over his butchering of it.

[@delta2372]

2008 clone wars is shit, if arch wasnt a normie for star wars, he'd look into the EU version of the clone wars which is far superior.

[@delta2372]

​@@Jaegerrantsno it isn't what? they have several EU references in the movie.

[@Jaegerrants]

@@delta2372 tiny bits and bob here and there. though many of those got fumbled, like Ben being Leia and Han kid. The sequels are about as respectfull to EU as Starship Troopers movie was to book.

[@Ozzystrayroo]

And all it takes was kicking the ESG policy out of the airlock. Now if they can do the same to KK.....

[@reggie6230]

They havent though. Its becoming integrated policy and theyre just keeping mum about it.

[@Marinealver]

Don't forget DBA and MEI!

[@mrbigglezworth42]

It’s not gone, just rebranded. Do you honestly believe they’d just accept defeat so easily?

[@Norseman2077]

I'm sorry but reporting a .005% recovery of cost is actually really sad.

[@Norseman2077]

I rounded to make it seem less sad.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Sad? No,,, _pathetic_ is more descriptive. I am not in any way sad about this. 'See I told you so' is a better expression of my emotions as I waggle the tip of a stick in front of them.😂

[@mrbigglezworth42]

@@Norseman2077could you show just how much has been lost to make it extra sad?

[@Norseman2077]

@@mrbigglezworth42 0.0047% recovered so a loss of 99.9953%

[@Norseman2077]

0.0047% recovery,99.9953% loss of profit.

[@monarchtherapsidsinostran9125]

Disney is something i do not want to keep going. They literally tried to say they weren't liable for someones wife dying in the park because he had disney plus. So no. I will not be purchasing anything disney related even if they did make something i like. 🏴‍☠

[@godinblack3180]

They didn't succeed shoving it openly into anything they made, now they"ll try to sneak it in, telling us "nonono, that? That's nothing! You got that wrong. Now move on."

[@poppyrider5541]

The stick. The whole stick. And nothing but the the stick.

[@mrbigglezworth42]

And should the stick break, great! You now have 2 sticks for twice the beatings.

[@Canuckit]

Rey and Ahsoka are two new players coming to the table learning some old-school D&D or Pathfinder. Ahsoka buckles down, reads the player's handbook cover-to-cover, makes the classic "It's what my character would do" mistakes, but eventually melds well with the rest of the party over time. Rey is the DM's girlfriend, who's only there because she's jealous of the attention her boyfriend gets on game night but still gets everything handed to her.

[@mightypancake2211]

soon as hulu stoped being hulu and asked me to sign into my D+ account I canceled my hulu. And this... This is a facade. As soon as their preferred political party gets back in they will be back to ground zero. Need these companies to be on the level not high and toyty like they have been.

[@SenseiLlama]

Godamnit. There goes my money printer. I've been shorting disney stock and making bank. Hopefully they double down on something stupid.

[@Fiffelito]

Oh they will, they have a long history of doing crap like this... 7 times over 3 years just prior to the cough. They always double down, and when they do they increase the dial past 11.

[@SenseiLlama]

@@Fiffelito it has been a reliable money printer.

[@matthewkrulitski8788]

8:33 I guess the Deus ex machina is how they’re interpreting the “for my ally is the Force and a powerful ally it is” concept. Remember Arch… the universe isn’t a hostile bowl of horrors in every setting. Some horrors want to help you while only slowly driving you goofy.

[@techpriest6962]

Ask the BanX, debt is control.

[@Aserbic]

Where's the Money Bobbie?

[@jefreyvalencia4669]

2:19 Best part Of shogun when the Main female character tried to fight her way out of the castle and she was not successful. The only reason she survived because the enemies were holding back because she is female and her position. My expectation was subverted I thought she was gona black widow her way out while screaming girl power..

[@tapioperala3010]

You have to wonder how Disney can actually afford keeping up that kind of losses 😅

[@matthewrummler1854]

I want my old Disney back even though I don't trust them yet. They need to prove themselves for a few years.

[@vladimirgalonja8768]

How do you missmanage funds so badly that you're competing with the government?

[@BX-advocate]

People are more divorced from the Acolyte than lesbians are from eachother.

[@Malefactor]

Disney, indeed the media conglomerates in general, need to be balkanized. They can insulate themselves from their failures because they control too much of the market share. A little creative accounting is all they need to keep their investors from suing them for another quarter.

[@nunyabizniz4556]

Wow! Its almost as if economically-competent people are the ones who have the money!!

[@preservinglight]

They need to bury star wars fot another 10 years

[@matthewkrulitski8788]

5:48: a grounded, serious direction? Well, as a Warhammer fan, you WOULD like that.

[@Ariescz]

Arch - I don't know what people see in Andor Arch a minute later - I want to see serious Star Wars

[@RogueFox2185]

I’m honestly in agreement with the Star Wars sentiment, dialing back on the force and Jedi for a few years while also exploring other aspects of the universe would be a nice reprieve. Maybe even set up a show focusing on a small crusade, with the Republic/Empire purging space witches from the galaxy. After the Acolyte that would be something that would get people to watch.

[@carsonhaught9934]

I first heard of Star Wars summer 77 on a seaside t-shirt... who'd have thought they would still be milking it half a century on. It was hardly much more than 30s Space Opera anyway...

[@acole5975]

Arch is showing remarkable optimism. He needs another decent Norwegian winter to realise that the world will punish him for being so hopeful.

[@covahredro8370]

In the words of the Overfiend "DISSAPPER!"

[@Riley_Mundt]

$ goes before the numbers, Arch.

[@sim.frischh9781]

I prefer Disney getting back to make good stuff again, but they will have to EARN my trust in them before i´m willing to just forgive them.

[@Volper1]

Arch understanding why Ahsoka is such a fan favorite character.

[@scrubsrc4084]

They still ain't getting my money.

[@AshnSilvercorp]

it's almost like trying to shove a bunch of low bitrate movies through smart TVs from one giant server is less profitable than just putting your movies up on a high bitrate physical format that people can actually own at their houses, and you can actually charge them $20-30 a pop for it and people see it as a good deal.

[@Ibian666]

Salt the earth.

[@ThePassablePlayer]

Disney discovering how to do business after a decade of forgetting the fucking obvious.

[@ianbruene1529]

An "alternative ecosystem" isn't a question of successful vs failing companies, but of the technological and economic base. And that has been shifting ever stronger towards larger numbers of smaller producers for a long time now. When these sorts of transitions happen the old whales usually start to gobble up everything around them to try and find something which will let them survive, and....... oh wait.

[@MordethKai]

Disney, and the rest of hollywood, should absolutely go under. They should become an example for future enterprises so we don't see a repeat of the woke era ever again. Conservatives are way too quick to forgive and forget....

[@Aiello_]

they are bringing japanese studios for another Star Wars visions season too, probably because season 2 with all the diverse studios haven't made any money, never heard anyone talk about it

[@umngyr]

on the matter of disney, to quote a man: "It belongs in a museum."

[@Robotoaster]

Still have to stay on guard.

[@chrissinclair8705]

John Blackthorne...the original passport bro...Circa 1600...

[@SnlDrako]

They wished to ruin the entertainment industry. There is an old wives tale in my country, that essentially boils down to, if you wish to ruin somebody's life, just grant them three wishes, because only the purest of innocence can make wishes pure enough to not backfire. I say we grant them their first wish of ruining the entertainment industry, and ask them what their second wish is.

[@DieSerah]

What a Lifehack indeed

[@r3dp9]

Let me put it this way: If Disney produces something slightly above average, I'll watch free youtube instead. The bar for entertainment I will pay for, much less subscribe to Disney for, has gotten rather high.

[@CapitalTeeth]

Damn they figured out that not pissing away money with virtue signaling makes money.

[@hoyer]

Who are “we” arch? Are “we” the social liberals? Are “we” the “classical centrists”?

[@DeadRobit29]

The pergill were established in Rebels and Ahsoka is basically the next season of Rebels so the pergill showing up to help makes some sense. Plus I love space whales so I might be a bit biased on that.

[@WarsmithThanatos]

Forgive, but never forget.

[@andrewgrinn3435]

I guess the numbers were getting too red, I wonder if they keep this up when they're in the black again.

[@jovenc4508]

I think Disney would benefit from making some of their IP into open liscenses for anyone to make content from. Disney can take a percentage of any profit made and people can make what they want within reason.

[@jasonsantos3037]

Well for me I Still don't trust Disney by look like they're starting to learn which group is getting them money.

[@itsallfunandgames723]

10 billion dollars to make 400 million dollars? Man, you really do gotta spend money to make money.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

When the King of Disneyland is Ron DeSantis I will think about watching something exported from its Magical Kingdom.😏

[@cloudfair2]

Disney, despite its size, is just one cog in the machine. Whether it survives or not is irrelevant. All that matters is that the industry as a whole pivots back towards serving the customers again. As long as that happens, it doesn’t matter what happens to Disney. It’s fate is for Disney to decide.

[@Guardias]

Andor is mediocrity lauded as masterpiece purely because we've been inundated with garbage. Thing is that Ahsoka USED to be a character that tried her hardest and fucked up...now she's been molded toward the modern "ideal"

[@darthkingedededbobo6117]

BREAKING NEWS!!! MAKING GOOD ENTERTAINMENT MAKES MONEY! and now to the weather

[@ArachD206]

Had to do a double take on that thumbnail...Thought it said 9,5 million. But no, 9,5 billion! Mindboggling.

[@Marinealver]

Just like someone's presidential campaign.

[@PsychicAlchemy]

I wouldn't like to see Disney go away entirely, but I would like to see the Epstein and Diddy lists revealed, the entire corporate structure drained and replaced with moral, upstanding people.

[@Levi-bg1sc]

I think Disney should suffer more, have some loses but it shouldn't die and then maybe they will learn but on the other hand they are not the same company who made for example the lion king. So I really don't know, I'm teared on this one. 😅

[@carpentb17]

Skeleton crew is goones in space

[@edgarf3152]

I WANT IT GONE

[@braydoxastora5584]

4:30 andor? Well you gotta watch it.

[@Pulmonox]

I'd rather Disney went under and something else rose in its place. We all know Disney is taking this as simply a defeat and not a reconciling. They're going to go back to how they were previously: much more subtle about the messaging. The company has proven they cannot be trusted through and through. Their company culture is rotten to the core and even if they apply a new coat of paint to make it look pretty it's still going to fail you in the end.

[@SageofCancer]

The early models were easy to spot they had rubber skin

[@codenamemati]

Disney falling would be more entertaining than its products. Also it would serve as an example

[@ikicrat2379]

When it comes to Clone Wars Ashoka, she was introduced in that one Clone wars movie which is decent I liked it. She was annoying but evolved into a good and beloved character during CW Series. In the rebels show she was okay but there is were the downturn started ending in the awful real life show.

[@Lord_Numpty]

Thing about Ahsoka is that while she fucks up, it's never really in any meaningfull way, things always work out for her. There's a good argument (and videos on KZbin with hard evidence) to be made that she was a Mary Sue from the start, scrapping multiple magnaguards on her own with a baby Hutt on her back when Anakin and Obi-Wan struggled against *one each* in ROTS. She gets her squad killed and later comes up with a plan originally made by *Thrawn,* retroactively robbing him of his genius, fights Grievous one-on-one, goes on a mission to the most secure prison in the galaxy against Anakin's wishes because 'it's never been done before' and proves to be the key to their success, ruins a diplomatic mission before escaping on the diplomat's ship, leaving them for dead only to never suffer consequences, survive Order 66 while she was in a less favourable position than several Jedi Masters who perished because of it, *effectively became the embodiment of the Light Side of the Force* and a whole slew of other things. I used to like Ahsoka before realising what she was. Still, at least the Clones were enjoyable.

[@Dancan799]

I think Disney needs to end. The industry should learn a lot from such a giant falling due to failing to meet the majority of fan expectations. If they live then they learn nothing and would likely do this again if they thought it profitable at the time

[@ironbaysqiureg4827]

Too many corporations art unnecessarily big maybe not completely disappear but throughout most of those IPS For instance I think Disney would be better off without Star Wars Marvel and fox and mostly focusing on the things that they made great

[@themalcontent100]

Why does anyone wants to buy Disney

[@zore5872]

11:58 have disney weaken for another decade so other places can get there foot in

[@gondorianslayer4250]

lol, no thanks.

[@Timic83tc]

What pivot?

[@atraxian5881]

Their streaming service not losing money is like a terminal cancer patient saying "I stopped smoking yesterday, now I expect a full recovery".

[@lemax6865]

The difference is that in this case, it might actually work. Not because they deserve it, but because most people have a political memory of 3 months at best. A few good decisions and the money will flow again, Disney will learn nothing, and the propaganda will return.

[@merendell]

Id say best would be they start producing good content again but their monopoly is broken so they are just one of many. Frankly they got too big and bought up too many IPs to the point of them ruining large swaths of content when they went downhill.

[@walt_man]

Man.. they could have *several* developing countries for that much!

[@walt_man]

Rather Disney go BYE

[@hunn20004]

"Bring out your dead!!!"

[@TheWestcoastnz]

The thing about Disney disappearing is the woke won't it will just spread and burrow ever deeper into other things and bide it's time in the dark

[@VacomaTeParjila]

So you wanna see more like rogue one but you don't understand what people see in Andor? 🤔

[@oteris2924]

Ashoka had potential. They could of had a whole story line where Luke meets Ashoka. If you really want to spice it up add in Starkiller. Anikin and Vader's padawans meeting and teaching his actual son.

[@marlarose3105]

They don't know how to write a strong woman. They think they do but the amount of bitching and complaining their characters do trying to be exactly like men doing things exactly the way a man would. Shows they are weak We women aren't as big as men we do not have the same extrinsic innate abilities a man has expesialy not the phisical sense. Women can do everything a man can we just can't do it the same way. A strong woman would be able to see where what works for men won't work for her. Then she finds some way around it. Basically a Mulan. My grandmother explained it that all women need to know how to do things a man can we just can't typically do things the way they can. If you are useing a wrench to fix a sink you can't do it like a man you just can't physically get the things tight enough. Which is why you get creative by kicking it at various angles or use a second tool or something to r Try leverage force. As a strong woman you have to use your skills to your advantage. But know when to ask for health even from men. Mean who is gonna help you if it turns out you can't find any angle to tighten the sink with that wrench.

[@EternitynChaos]

Ashoka is very much Anakins padawan lol

[@DeanCalaway]

So what you're saying is... Disney is about to ruin Shogun, great...

[@smily2208]

The most successful show they have is Bluey and the maker is going to retire soon

[@brandom255]

I'm all for creative destruction!

[@fren111]

Disney has found success selling family friendly products, The target audience are the parents Make progressive propaganda is the best way

[@thehatter9400]

Disney is one of the biggest names in entertainment, but in the end its a ship. A giant device with wheels and cogs, having that device create things for us is nothing but a net positive, it signals to all the other companies which way the wind is blowing. Its also one of the few steadfast things about america, its history and its culture. To destroy it would be a giant loss, too big, the mechine must instead be used to create what it use to, wholesome and epic, stories. It wasn't until 2016 that they stopped 7 years of this nonsense shouldn't destroy it.

[@java9090]

1:30 Gonna have to fact check you Arch, the US government adds $1 trillion the the national debt every 100 days, 2 billion isn't even a rounding error. 🤓🤓 🤓

[@dragonlord498]

with star wars i think they should give it a break for a few years then start making stuff based on legends you know the aspect of the franchise that helped it grow and gave it lasting power instead of the type of content that disney made which caused it to start spiraling downwards almost as soon as they got it and started to make changes and release their slop though i don't think disney is willing or able to do that the only possible sign of them taking star wars seriously would be them getting rid of kathleen till that happens star wars is doomed 100%. also i think more new production sources both companies and indie groups would be good plus would force older ones to stay on their toes if they regularly got new competitors they couldn't just squash with their bloat

[@FigthAGAINSTSCOIALISM]

Don't trust them though.