Rings of Power Truth Revealed - Media Engage COPE, Cast ENRAGED

Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Season 1 viewer numbers were said to be 25 million by Amazon Prime video. But now the viewer minutes have been released over season one, it's comparison vs House of the Dragon is not complimentary putting the media in full panic mode. Even the cost of LOTR: Rings of Power decided to come back and shame the viewers for wanting Tolkien's Lore respected. Is Rings of Power worth watching? The viewers have decided.
Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power Reviews Playlist = • Lord of the Rings: The...
Playlist of Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power Commentary = • Lord of the Rings: The...
Follow me on Twitch = / disparu
Follow me on Twitter = / disparutoo
She-Hulk Review Playlist = • She-Hulk: Attorney At ...
Andor Review Playlist = • Andor Reviews - Disney...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Review Playlist = • Obi-Wan Kenobi Review ...
Subscribe to this channel = / @disparutoo
#LordOfTheRings #RingsofPower #Amazon

[@disparutoo]

As the viewer numbers release about the full Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power series are released and show that the numbers decreased every single week, why are the media so obsessed with trying to convince themselves that it's a huge hit? Why can't they just be happy that they enjoyed it, instead we have to try and convince everyone else it is too. But with Jennifer Salke saying Rings of Power reflects the heartbeat of Amazon, and they can't even compete with House of the Dragon when you take relative budgets into account, this doesn't seem to be a good sign. Is that why the cast decided to attack the fans again? While talking about how it's so important that they HAVE to be in works of Tolkien? Seems like cope to me. But what are your thoughts? Let me know down below and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@t2av159]

ahh I just about to look you up to see if new video has been released. and here ya are , nice!

[@primal1233]

You got a point there!

[@boomingbob1579]

Bullseye

[@Sajuuk]

The thoughts of everyone who cares about Tolkien's canon (and good storytelling) is that RoP is a billion dollar pile of shit. We're just not as good at saying so in an entertaining manner like you can 😉👍

[@citycrusher9308]

These people aren't ''coping''. They are destroying LOTR on purpose. Then they will move on to the next franchise. That is trend. COPING is pretending they are losing and that things will self correct

[@Blakobness]

The only person who loved Tolkien in this show left early, and that was the Tolkien scholar. Very obvious why he left.

[@bluesbest1]

"That's not canon." "Shut up!" "That's not canon either." "Shut up!" "That one actively goes against canon." "Shut up!" "Oh well. Have fun setting a dumpster on fire." "Good riddance, what was _wrong_ with that guy, doing the job we paid him to do?"

[@VOXivero]

I thought he was fired?

[@alecday3775]

@@VOXivero That is what i thought as well. They fired him cause the 2 doofuses had a vision for the show and they wanted ZERO INTERRUPTIONS and it is why it turned out to be the boring mess that it was.

[@fleetstreet11]

You gatekeepers never let people enjoy things. That's why you're gatekeepers and Gamergaters too, all of you deplorables who cling bitterly to your glorious unstained perfect past. You people will NEVER get your country back, for you deserve no country. How do we know that you "critics" aren't just Orcs in human skin?

[@matthewmekonis1790]

Comparisons: 1)Viggo and crew wore swords even when eating at restaurants to make it appear that their characters sword wearing was completely natural vs Mordred Clark needing therapy after fight scenes 2) Ian McKellan talked about entire cast whipping out the LOTR books in between scenes and in trailers before scenes were shot vs actors not knowing that female dwarfs were depicted on screen with beards 3) Peter Jackson’s goal was to not import modern themes or allegory vs Bobsy Twins stating that if Tolkien DIDNT state Gandalf owned a motorcycle they had liberty to have Gandalf riding a motorcycle 4) Jackson didn’t have to lie about ticket sales or revenues or about merchandise vs Amazon doctoring reviews, using sampled viewership, and nary merchandise in sight

[@Gongasoso]

Severely underrated comment. This isn't just (or even mainly) a "personal" fault of the team behind RoP, but it's a symptom of the malpractice of the entertainment industry that has become the norm ever since. One can see even the Hobbit started to fall ill to some of it. RoP isn't about Tolkien, it's using Tolkien to tell its story with a bit of cheap fan service thrown in... But we can see through it all. LotR had its faults but it also set the bar (pretty high) for everything else to come after - this means everything else can only be made better, otherwise it won't pass through scrutiny unscathed. Peter Jackson himself couldn't. RoP certainly wouldn't, from the get go

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

Love this post! ❤

[@julianking4793]

Further comparisons: J R R Tolkien: Tolkien could read by the age of four and could write fluently soon afterwards. When J. R. R. Tolkien was 12, his mother died of acute diabetes at the young age of thirty-four. In his early teens he invented a language called Naffari. Tolkien began studying at Exeter College, Oxford. He initially read classics but changed his course in 1913 to English language and literature, graduating in 1915 with first-class honours. Tolkien served in World War one and was invalided home in 1916. In 1920, he took up a post as reader in English language at the University of Leeds, becoming the youngest member of the academic staff there. In 1925 he obtained the post of Rawlinson and Bosworth Professor of Anglo-Saxon. In 1945 obtained the post of Merton Professor of English Language and Literature until his retirement. The lord of the rings book sales are estimated to be approximately 2.2 billion. J D Payne & Patrick McKay The two are originally from McLean, Virginia, where they met on their high school debate team, and directed a short play that J. D. wrote for their school's festival. Payne attended Yale University and studied English Literature, graduating with honors. McKay attended Stonehill College and studied Theater Arts, and the American University, where he received an MFA in Creative Writing.

[@savioblanc]

Wait ... hahaha... hold up, .... hahaha... Clark needed therapy after fight scenes??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Cmon, you're joking right??

[@matthewmekonis1790]

Unfortunately I am not joking. The actress talked about this in a magazine article.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Rings of Power never disappoints when it comes to disappointment.

[@WeAreInYourWall]

That's racist.

[@primal1233]

@@WeAreInYourWall Where did you get racist from?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

it's disappointing all the way down

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@WeAreInYourWall your mom is racis

[@primal1233]

This show is literally terrible!

[@TTF1997]

“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made” ― JRR Tolkien

[@evilieeemia7779]

Facts. Literally a quote from 70years ago & totally applies today. To his own work. I can't believe the Tolkien estate, his grandson isn't speaking out on this bs.

[@ilfirinms]

@@evilieeemia7779 He can't. He took money and allowed that, he is accomplice.

[@evilieeemia7779]

@@ilfirinms doesn't matter. The guy who wrote Game of Thrones sold the TV rights; that didn't stop him from calling the final season a load of bullshit... 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@hotnseksi]

Amazing comment.

[@Sombre____]

Metacritics user's review : 2.5.

[@Thomass42]

There is one thing the show is good for - it makes the Hobbit trilogy looking like a master piece. Now I am happy to watch LotR Movies and the Hobbit Movies.

[@johnnysalery7383]

Right? While “The Hobbit” films aren’t as good as the “Lord Of The Rings“ films, they at least FELT like they were part of the same universe. “Rings of Power” feels like someone’s half-assed attempt to create a story despite having a story that ALREADY EXISTS. It makes me glad LOTR was made during the early 2000s.

[@kennethsatria6607]

I unironically love the hobbit trilogy though, they had to make it as long as it was by the studio, and so the team was forced to add more details and flesh out events, but the kicker is they were all logical additions like actually showing Gandalf's mission away from the Dwarves or the conflict between Legolas and Thranduil and where his mother was or how come Thranduil seems so petty for the Elven jewels, or the best aspect to me which is the fleshed out relationships between Bilbo and the Dwarves. The movies tried to improve on the source material, they changed practically nothing they just added more to try and strengthen it and of course make it longer to fit the given goal. And no political messages as far as the eye can see, just the base wholesome moral questions and characters you can love, the only downside being in execution that the legolas scenes took way too much time and cgi was used more recklessly. And that cause of the longer runtime and less deaths cause the hobbit was children oriented meant that the main characters are pretty plot armored sometimes until the battle where most are supposed to die. I would gladly rewatch and praise the hobbit movies again and again.

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

Garbage doesn't make other garbage better. Shit is still shit.

[@tolkienfan9291]

"It was born out of love and passion," says Jennifer Salke. You know who didn't need to tell me that? Peter Jackson and his cast and crew for The Lord of the Rings. You see it in the high-quality production and how they used every trick in the book to create movie magic. You see it in the attention to detail. You see it in all the work that went into giving this story a suitably epic scale. You see it in the performances. You see it in their dedication (even if not perfect) to the source material. When I look at this show, I see lackluster production (like inconsistent lighting, printed armor, or armor that looks unfinished like that ceremonial armor in episode 1). I see embarrassingly small scales of action and setting for the most expensive show ever made. I see performances that are generally bad or unremarkable (with a few exceptions like Durin IV's actor). I see no dedication to the canon, and the number and severity of divergences are on another level even from Jackson's Hobbit films, despite having less material to work with for the Second Age. And I see writers that are terrible at storytelling, plot development, characterization, cause and effect (including without relying upon contrivances), setup and payoff, worldbuilding, dialogue, consistency across multiple fronts, keeping timelines straight and sensible, spatial awareness (in terms of being clear on where things are located, how far apart they are, and how long it takes to traverse distances), pacing, and so on. Where is the love?

[@SonoftheAllfather]

Jennifer Salke (insert tri-echoes) is a subversive neo-Marxist. Her motivation has nothing to do with love and passion for Tolkien's works. She hates Tolkien's works and Tolkien fans, because neither conform to her warped ideology. Her motivation is corrupting traditional things that we love because she hates and envies us and the things that make us happy.

[@petriew2018]

in fairness, when she says it was born out of love and passion, i do believe her not for Tolkien, god no.... she means the money and the clout it brought within the alternate reality that is hollywood, what's the only thing anyone involved in this show gave two shits about.

[@timonsolus]

They’re narcissists, they passionately love themselves!

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

@@timonsolus yes, exactly. I came here to say this too! They don't love Tolkien. They have contempt for him and for us who do love Tolkien. This is the best fanbase!

[@SonoftheAllfather]

@@timonsolus Despite the myth that provides the etymological root of the word, only one subtype of narcissist actually loves themselves and thinks of themselves as superior to others. Those are grandiose narcissists. Most of these cultural Marxist vandals (like Salke) fall under are the "vulnerable" subset of narcissism. Their superiority complex is actually just a neurotic defense mechanism they use to conceal true feelings of inferiority. In other words, their superiority complex is a mask for their inferiority complex. Their arrogance is thus fake, and motivated almost entirely by their envious hatred of people to whom they feel inferior. Vulnerable narcissism is a typical trait of extreme leftists. The most common personality disorder that accompanies vulnerable narcissism is histrionic personality disorder, which is characterized by hyper-emotional and melodramatic behavior, hypersexual behavior, a delusional lack of self-doubt, an inability to delay gratification, extreme tolerance to the abnormal, and highly exploitative behavior. It's common for people with this disorder to wear flamboyant clothing, dye their hair, modify their bodies in different ways, and come up with fake medical conditions in an attempt to draw other's attention. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

[@charlestruppi7793]

The shrinking viewers is based on “minutes watched” data reported by Nielsen. That number reveals a lot more than just the raw number. If the minutes viewed goes down from week 3-4 for example, this means that either lots of existing viewers stopped watching, or there were no new viewers. If a new viewer starts watching in week 4, then they will watch first 3 episodes to catch up. That’s why shows like Squid Game and GoT had such long legs and were on the Nielsen charts long after the season finales - word of mouth creates new viewers who then binge all the episodes in a short period of time and bump up the “minutes watched” data.

[@MikeTheD]

This will affect RoP greatly in season 2 too; they will depend on that word of mouth(obviously good word of mouth) because they lost all the hype and curiosity. People will sit back and wait to do that later viewing if they hear anything to change their mind about the show, but that initial big hit won't be there anymore

[@robertnguyen2025]

You are in that Mike..so far I am not a Got fans at all..yet I did watch some episode just to see and compare with ring of power..and Throne of Dragon has a better writing and Story compare to Ring of Power..these series matter so much on the screen writer and Director in making a movie that is good..what I don't understand is Ring of Power had so much resources and money and why didnt they get a well known Director to make the film .it baffles any sense of business ..I would think that Amazon wanted to make money?

[@thomasjones4570]

Nielsen gets their numbers from Amazon...Disney, Amazon, HBO and Hulu all actively block them and other ratings groups. Netflix doesnt block but also does not help.

[@jimmynich4791]

@@MikeTheD True, I just watched season 1 out of curiosity and didn't enjoy it after the first couple of episodes. I won't waste my time on season 2 unless it gets very good reviews or people I know rate it. I think a lot of people will be like that, season 2 has to be better but they're not accepting it has to improve.

[@jimmynich4791]

@@robertnguyen2025 One reviewer said that he thinks the big problem with Rings of Power is that the people involved in the show just don't love the source material, I think he's probably right. The show runners, producers, etc don't care about Lord of the rings, they just wanted the show on their cv. They'd been better off just making a generic fantasy show then they'd have free reign over the characters, plot, etc.

[@GenikaXVI]

Loved it when Sauron said " It's over Anakin, I have the high ground"

[@davestationuk7374]

You underestimate my rings of power

[@GenikaXVI]

@@davestationuk7374 🤣

[@devontehurd2706]

@@GenikaXVI "I hate volcano ash it's course and gets everywhere."

[@jedexodus8602]

I don't understand all the hate. I really found myself watching this. I watched with friends and we all cheered when Galadriel held her sword aloft and shouted "Thundercats Hooo!!!". It was epic and we all chanted in unison "Thunder, Thunder, Thundercats Hooo!!!". Then everyone clapped.

[@westernspyanatoli4360]

can't wait for season 2 when they find the 5 teenagers with attitude

[@higgs923]

Paperback versions of Tolkien's works were a part of my kit throughout my service in the Vietnam-era USN. They were in my sea bag when I was aboard the carriers and they were my comfort during a year in the Mekong Delta. I didn't just read them. I even flatter myself that I understand some of the wartime feelings that influenced Tolkien. Rings of Power should slouch back into the pit of narcissism that spawned it.

[@tysoncoffman7562]

I find its more a product of the time/ retelling. If you knew nothing about the actual books it isn't quite so bad on the surface. It's when you do know than you find it difficult to swallow in its current rendition seems to be the consensus i see.

[@Romczy]

07

[@uphilliceskater]

"Slouch." Yeats reference?

[@higgs923]

@@uphilliceskater Correct!

[@fleetstreet11]

The world you want will never be born anew. Accept it. Cease your rebellion, or remain a gatekeeping narcissistic pharisee.

[@daver5907]

I didn’t finish it. I had recently revisited the Silmarillion in Audible so the Lore was fresh in my mind. I did not have high hopes after their adaptation of The Wheel of Time. I would love to see an interviewer ask the actors questions about the lore and expose them. If they cared at all about canon they would not be part of this.

[@leonharte7780]

Not a single person I have interacted with in person, whether it is family, friends, or coworkers, none of them have mentioned this show once. Like he said in the video, Squid Game was huge. Everyone Was talking about it. The last Stranger Things season, a lot of talk at my office. Nothing on Rings of Power. Nobody watched it.

[@TGuard00014]

I had one coworker who said he loved it, when I asked him more about some giant plot points he said not to spoil the season for him. When I pointed out all that had happened in an episode he said he watched he said that actually he turns it on as background noise while he does other things and then he only watched the fight scenes. So yeah that was the only person I know who saw the show. Squid Games on the other hand random clients at work would ask me if I had seen.

[@KstewLover1]

Damn I actually watched it in binge style and I loved it. And people around me seems to like it as well… 🤷🏻‍♂️ and I love the harfoots or however you write it. Such wholesome content honestly

[@TheNightshotBR]

Honestly, Amazon should apologize to the fans, scrap the whole thing, fire everyone involved, down to the garbage man, hire Peter Jackson and give him a decent budget and tell him to start over and I promise you we´ll get something far better than this crap.

[@job4391]

The Hobbit

[@lovetobe6118]

@@job4391 I thought The Hobbit was not the same quality because they threw Peter Jackson in at the last minute, so he didn't have the time to make a quality production like Lord of the Rings.

[@TonioTyme]

If the world made sense & anybody quoting The Hobbit should remember Jackson didn't get the chance to control production the same way he did with the 3piece masterpiece

[@sandelic1]

@@TonioTyme And yet he accepted the job, because the money. He deserve all criticism he's getting for Hobbit.

[@TonioTyme]

@@sandelic1 The only criticism he gets is "it's not as good as the trilogy" but it's still FAR superior to Rings of Power & I would watch The Hobbit trilogy 10x before watching the RoP pilot episode, yet alone the entire 1st season 👎 😅 🚫 💯 👏

[@skylx0812]

I'm reminded of the lines from an episode of The Golden Girls. The subject was a terrible community theater and its awful actors. Rose: _"Dorothy, the community theater isn't that bad."_ Dorothy: _"Rose, during their production of 'The Diary of Anne Frank', when the Gestapo are pounding on the door, people in the audience began shouting, 'They're in the attic!!'"_

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Oh my god 🤣💀

[@kamion53]

'They're in the attic!!'" 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 the intervieuw reminded mr of Randy Marsh in Southpark admiring his own turd and make his family and the village do the same. but the Golden Girls reference is gold too.

[@ZValerian21]

Definitely accurate! I was rooting for the damn Orcs by the end of the show! At least they were slightly less evil than any of the "heroes".

[@atasukecetin90]

This reminds me more of the adult golden girls than any of the classics ;)

[@ChadKakashi]

@@ZValerian21 I honestly can’t believe that the damn ORCS are less evil than FKING HOBBITS! HOW THE HELL DID THEY DO THAT?!

[@williamroberts6803]

That picture of Galadriel holding knife to her friends neck is what’s wrong. It’s not self defense or a battle seen. It’s Galadriel holding a knife to an innocent man’s neck because she doesn’t agree with what he said.

[@phatpat63]

That sort of thing seems reasonable and relatable to the show's creators. It's basically how they've related to their target audience from the start.

[@kennethsatria6607]

Uh no in context she was just trapped in an illusion made by Sauron of course she'd be messed up and having to check if it was actually her friend.

[@kennethsatria6607]

@@casuallybad Its actually not a thing she did in the show, she just thought Elrond was another illusion made my Sauron

[@fleetstreet11]

Adar is a mockery. He reveres the memory of Morgoth. Adar loves corruption, as do you. You love Morgoth too. We don't want you Orc lovers here.

[@donavonbain4332]

I remember getting a book from the elementary school library. The Librarian said, "this is above your level, are you sure you want to read it?" Simple me! "Yes!' And yes! It was a hard read in 2nd grade. But I learned the words and the beauty of TRUE storytelling! IT was Marvelous!😘

[@donavonbain4332]

That book! "THE Hobbit"! Was amazing to me! Real adventure and story telling! Scene setting! I was there! When Bilbo was seeing the Ogres figuring out how to cook the dwarves. I was there when he cut them free after distracting the trolls. And I was there! When the spiders came to wrap them up! Rather repetitive, but still! Immersive writing! Not this crap on screen!

[@KurtRichards]

@@donavonbain4332 I also read "The Hobbit" as a kid. It was such a magical experience. First time in my life, I was really "inside" the story, "inside" this fantasy world while reading it.

[@roninelenion4805]

@@donavonbain4332 I read _The Hobbit_ for the first time when I was thirteen. It's my favorite book, and I try to read it every year.

[@SugaryPhoenixxx]

When I was in third grade I wanted to read the LOTR books. The first PJ movie had just dropped & I was in love with the story. But my teacher told me I couldnt read it because it was .05 points above my "accelerated reading level" (some stupid program my school took great pride in) Apparently the way to make a child love reading is to tell them that they aren't allowed to read what interests them, instead to read something totally different. To this day I hate reading. Throughout school I was forced to read boring crap that I had no interest in. Finally in senior year we were told to read the Fellowship of the ring book. It was amazing. & also my orchestra ended up playing the LOTR soundtrack at our last concert senior year. I got to play the violin solo for "shortcut to mushroom" & "The breaking of the fellowship". It was one of the most memorable moments of my life. I played the music by heart because I had it memorized from years of watching the PJ films. It was perfect. I think back on that memory fondly.

[@raggingraven]

If you think about it. How can they attack the fans, if there are no fans of the show?

[@timonsolus]

Fans of the IP - not fans of the show.

[@modolief]

Lol !!

[@xiii0722]

Nice burn tbh

[@christophersommerville1200]

Your Squid Game comparison was spot on, I only heard about that show from many other people who had seen it and recommended it. Rings of power had the absolute opposite effect, no one I knew talked about it.

[@SH19922x]

Squid game is garbage for incels like every other Asian weirdfest.

[@cameronjones8641]

Dito!

[@catbhoy]

Same here

[@Dravianpn02]

There are people I know who are pure mindless consumers and they don't even know about ROP.

[@indomiepanggang4258]

What minute ?

[@imma5761]

That feeling when 50% of whole job would be done with READING the book and literally just PICKING certain moments you want to put in show combining it with few talks with Tolkien scholars and Peter Jackson.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

that would require being able to read, which is above the skill level of the show runners

[@booshmcfadden7638]

Bezos said his teenage son is the Tolkien scholar.

[@kieranbudke2343]

@@CallMeTeci i am curious and maybe you don't know, too lazy to google atm lol, but did they even try to secure the rights? I know that Christopher Tolkien was unimpressed with the movies to say the least be as it may so maybe they just got straight turned down, just curious if they tried

[@thecloudtherapist]

Yes, which of these fumbling idiots on Hollywoke, lost in the corridors of their own minds, trying to salvage some semblance of reality, in their tortured little bubble of a world had read anything?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@kieranbudke2343 they bought the rights to the Appendices which is more or less Tolkien's cronology of Middle Earth he wrote for himself (as a tool for writing) and was published after his death

[@firebornliger]

The problem with modern entertainment is that it became about pushing a message before telling a compelling story to explore an idea. It isn't helped by the fact that the message in question is almost always, "we hate you."

[@ilfirinms]

To be honest, they hate themselves too. So yeah, it's product of pure hatred.

[@jamie-leighsmith9219]

Agreed, far too political

[@noahfranke467]

so what was that supposed message?

[@realkursed]

@@noahfranke467 yeah I’m wondering that myself lol

[@noahfranke467]

@@realkursed we will probably never get an answer because there is none. None that would justify hating it anyway.

[@Kwolfx]

Back in the first three seasons of Game of Thrones, I'd hear people at work talking about that show. I had friends who talked about how good GoT was. That's how I knew it was a huge success. I haven't heard anyone talk about the Rings of Power.

[@guyainsworth61]

I have rarely heard such spot-on, concise, justified criticism. Superbly argued from start to finish and a devastating conclusion. Thank you!

[@dobster5819]

Well said.

[@johnl6192]

Look harder.

[@marcgibson88]

They picked the wrong fan base. Underestimation of the century of just how diverse and global that fan base is.

[@rigrmortis3393]

Well when God (bible, quran, etc.) is about the only thing outselling Tolkien you would have thought they would pick up on that. Nope not even something that obvious hitting them in the face gets past their narcissism.

[@roxxdude1]

If I recall there are two fiction authors in the world who have dedicated scholars. One is Tolkien, and the other is Shakespeare. WHY WOULD YOU MESS WITH THE FAN BASE THAT YOU CAN BECOME A PROFESSOR IN???

[@DraknalHitdan]

"You picked the wrong house fool!" - Tolkien fans to Amazon

[@mandowarrior123]

@@roxxdude1 shakespeare is primarily a playwright and Tolkien a novelist, so even that's an unfair comparison.

[@waynehewett4017]

Exactly what fan base was rops made for ? Clearly none of the lord of the rings fans What for the half dozen men hating ,narcissistic women and thier flying monkey's? Amazon good luck in getting that billion dollars back and actually making a profit

[@makani9004]

This reminds me of Rise of Skywalker. Disney had to pump so much money into marketing and public perception to try and make it remembered kindly, but that can only really come from the consumer. You can buy a journalist, or a hundred of them, but the money and views still come from actual people.

[@Darkwintre]

Rise of Palpatine. Sorry guess I proved your point.

[@Gonzalo_105]

audience* stop calling us consumers.

[@tn00bz]

The house of dragon was literally all set up for an actual war. It's almost entirely one family bickering and it's amazing.

[@epicsakura101]

I’m interested in House of the Dragon, but I haven’t touched GoT (books or show) with a 10 foot pole and don’t intend to. Would you say it’s possible to watch without the previously established context?

[@tn00bz]

@@epicsakura101 it's possible, you may be a bit lost. But if you dont like game of thrones I'm not sure you would like it.

[@AnnaMarianne]

@@tn00bz The GOT series has an infamously bad ending, and the SoAaF books infamously don't have an ending. Doesn't encourage new people to pick them up.

[@AstoricaArt]

@@AnnaMarianne House of the Dragon has an entirely finished story already so they can just build off the books instead of filing in the ending, and they're working with Martin on the show script itself (while in GoT he was just a producer)

[@valentinmitterbauer4196]

@@AnnaMarianne I read "The World of Ice and Fire" (basically Martin's world building notes) years ago and always wondered "Why are they making a series about the events after Robert Baratheon's death and not about the Dance of the Dragons? This sounds way cooler!" and now they are actually doing it. Kinda sad i already know the plot and the ening.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

What still makes me laugh is “we needed to move away from Peter Jackson an the trilogy” Then proceeding to do a discount version of most of the trilogy if one form or another 😂

[@michaelroberts3898]

Just my thoughts: I’m only one person and each person finds entertainment according to what makes them happy as a unique human being. I speak for myself alone but I have to say something about this because trying to watch the show actually makes me angry. Tolkien was a great author of timeless fiction that’s been read by millions. I have no idea what the people making this show were trying to do. This show apparently cost 60 million an episode. If that number is true, someone is using this production cost to launder money because it doesn’t show up on screen at all. Jeff Bezos should fire everybody working on adapting this material. The only relation between this show and previous Lord of the Rings based productions would be a similar font of lettering. Aside from the mindless direction, less professional than local community theatre acting, pointless plotting and totally absent story continuity, the pseudo profound and pitiful writing, the most nonsensical illogical battle strategy, the least believable fight choreography ever, clearly visible plastic armor on some fighters, and the use of cgi to pad out crowd sizes instead of just simply using extras, this show is a masterpiece.

[@Kiyoone]

Well... I bet those "showrunners" are aiming for "the show is so bad, that is good" category... Just like JCVD (van damme have quite good and very bad movies), Steven Seagal (have only bad movies) movies... They are aiming for other things that normal mortal like us does not understand.... Remember "Crank 2"? those kind of craziness and laziness in Seagal's movies needs a special kind of talent tho😅

[@TonioTyme]

Preach my friend, believe it or not you speak for us ALL, oh & @Kiyoone how dare you bash Steven, his movies are action masterpieces 😅

[@theeffete3396]

A masterpiece of shit.

[@TonioTyme]

@@theeffete3396 You deleted that real quick 😅 👎 🚫 💯 👏

[@MephiticMiasma]

they're shallow people in over their heads

[@StoneDeceiver]

Everyone in my family loves Tolkien. We all have read the books and the Jackson trilogy were made during my adolescence so it was especially meaningful. When I heard that there was going to be a new Tolkien series I was extremely excited! I remember always looking forward to it. We order pizza once a week and planned to watch an episode every pizza day, my dad and I. However things got in the way and it didn't end up happening, and the entire season had already been released and I hadn't seen it yet. I asked my dad if he had seen it and he told me he watched it and he loved it and its great. I was surprised because I had seen a lot of videos like this one talking about how terrible it was. Over the next week I continued to ask if he is sure it was good because more and more negative things were said online. He was adamant it was a great show and that I have to watch it. I watched the first two episodes and went to talk to him about it and he seemed confused. My poor Dad, bless his soul, had confused House of the Dragon for Rings of Power this whole time and was actually praising HotD instead of RoP! What a twist. We both laughed then agreed that RoP sucked and neither of us have seen past the first 2 episodes. Epic family moment edit: Wow I have to edit and add this because of all the idiots who think I made this up to, confusing a title of a show is not the same thing as watching an entire show and thinking that it is Tolkien's universe. Idiots, are these the people who go around saying RoP has 'fake reviews' and that the people who don't like the show are made up? Get a life.

[@modolief]

omg that's hilarious

[@TheGamingShadowCat]

At least he could tell what makes a show good, bless your old man

[@onechi]

This is a great story

[@pulsare.m.6719]

Lol what a twist indeed

[@KurtRichards]

LOL Great story haha.

[@PS4sos21]

The Rings of Power had most of its views on the first two episodes because people wanted to see what the show was like. From episode three onwards its viewers were dropping off dramatically...

[@catothecensor]

My favorite part was when everyone in the middle earth forgot who the Beatles were except Guyladriel and she became the best pop singer in the world, but Sauron convinces her that “hey dude!” is a better line than “hey Jude!” because the name Jude is not appreciated by Chris the Harfoot and Mohammed the dwarf! Such an inclusive twist!!!

[@Kserijaro]

I actually liked the Halffoots immigrating back to Africa and connecting to their roots! Singing African songs and planning to overthrow white and evil Sauron

[@catothecensor]

@@Kserijaro my favorite part was when Galadriel helped the female Prime Minister of Numenor to stop the ships with Harfoots refugees to land in Middle Earth! So reflective of the actual World!

[@th0r160]

Big difference I noticed in the articles I was presented about RoP and HoD, is that most HoD articles I've seen were giving context based on the books, formulating/presenting theories or showing possible different iterations of the scenes we were about to see (Based on the book where different versions of the story are presented). Same thing with the few interviews of producers and co, they mostly explained choice based on what was written. All the actor interviews I've seen we're talking about their work, their cast members, reacting to the last episode by giving some context on for example improvised scenes. At no point are they pretending to make history, change the world or whatever: they're artisans presenting their craft. All the RoP articles I've seen were focussed on glorifying the show or the actors and emphasizing how good the show is. And when it wasnt good, it was trying to give excuses for the show, saying its going to be good (And that all season long, leaving me wondering where the good was supposed to be) The actors in their interviews were focussed on how they were making history (Morfydd Clark talking about her audition, as if she was the chosen of a prophecy to save the world was hilarious) and, as Disparu says, on themselves mainly. Rop is that person who boasts how good they are at something, tries to do it, fails and blames the other. HoD is the quiet perdon who just arrives, performs and then sits back. So yeah, quality speaks for itself. So when a dying men walking to his chair is more epic than an entire season of a show based in the fantasy world who's the foundation of modern fantasy, there is no amount of copium, disinformation and fake racism to hide the truth.

[@amateurbarnaby]

The people behind Rings of Power doesn't have any love to Tolkien or Middle Earth, the House of the Dragons showrunners however are dedicated to portraying the world of ASOIAF, i bet the people who even worked in RoP even the cast don't know shit from their characters and the world they are trying to portray.

[@CoffeeForAll]

It’s interesting how Steam can comfortably provide numbers for people to filter games and mods, but streaming services refuse to do something similar.

[@tim5022]

It's not interesting at all. Steam is a publisher not a production company. Therefore there is no risk for them to publish statistics on games that ultimately doesn't affect their reputation in any way.

[@Noqtis]

@@tim5022 That's wrong. Steam is owned by Valve and Valve is a game developer. They made some of the most famous games on this planet. And also some shitty ones. Like the Dota card game. It was demolished in the Steam ratings but Valve never even deleted a single comment.

[@mandowarrior123]

They've turned being invisible into an art form and have many of us beholden to them for thousands.

[@epicstark990]

@@Noqtis They could be owned by the prince of Saudi, would it mean they are in the oil business? 😂

[@asddasdasdasdadsa]

Nah steaming services will gladly share the numbers they do it all the time (when they are positive) so when you can't find numbers it's shit like Amazon's original IMDb score of 6 on a scale of 6-10.

[@regpharvey]

My favorite part was when Galadriel played the guitar at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance after the band's guitar player wounded his hand whilst attempting to open the trunk of a car with a knife in order to let her out after Biff and his goons threw her in there.

[@wolfmauler]

It was all fun and games until she ran into her future self! 😲

[@EinFelsbrocken]

When Galadriel said "Anyway, here's wonderwall" I screamed and cried and shitted 🥺🥺

[@prestigecars9717]

When I saw Galadriel easily beat up the Numenorians for the "Orc training" I knew I was seeing history in the making. I said "THIS" , wiping the vomited up meal replacement ensure I drank 5 minutes prior

[@atomicdancer]

I loved it when Galadriel was talking to one of the Seven Dwarfs and she said, "Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Doc. Are you telling me that you built a TIME MACHINE... out of Lothlórien?!"

[@shenglong9818]

That's actually the plot from Back to the Future, not rings of power.

[@RickshawMunky]

Nick Greif works for InStride, who happened to have bagged themselves a massive Amazon contract in September...

[@Feanor1988bis]

The rings of power is undoubtedly a massive hit... to prime video's budget balance.

[@ReinoldFZ]

I saw for first time The Mark of Zorro with Tyrone Power and Basil Rathbone. It wasn't a two hours long boring movie but I was amazed by how fast paced, action filled, character developed, and quite entertaining it was. Even it seems to have many more people as extras than Rings of Power. Amazon has no one to blame than themselves.

[@MrAlanlaing]

I pretty much only watch black and white films and TV shows these days....at least they arent creatively bankrupt event if the visuals can be a bit clunky especial in the TV shows

[@rebeccavaughn8897]

A perfect movie!

[@michaelsambrook7934]

Nice job again. The sheer fecking hubris to believe this show will be lauded into the future as some ground-breaking tome and that these bit actors will be immortalised in it. They are truly living in a fantasy world, it's just not the one they think they are in.

[@thisguydan]

"We want the IP to attract all the fans who love it, so that we can then change the things that the fans love about it." With logic like that, it's no wonder these shows fail over and over.

[@vardamir0397]

Don’t forget the part where they also plan to bash their clients if they don’t like what they’re served. I’m not sure who decided it was a good business avenue to insult your clientele, but hey, see how it pays off for them right?

[@noahfranke467]

@@vardamir0397 send death threats and you might expect a cast to react "not so friendly" anymore. I think actors should lash out against arrogant, narcissistic "audience" and bigots way more often because they don't owe you shit.

[@vardamir0397]

@@noahfranke467 fanbait is very prominent with the strategy they use. Engineered drama. Divide and conquer is a known technique...if you want people to stop critiquing your bad series, then make them argue amongst themselves, dehumanize the critics as bigots (to have them and their opinion disregarded...). It's all fallacious. They're not defending the product, they're arguing with the critiques made of it. Because the product cannot be defended...

[@noahfranke467]

@@vardamir0397 you are missing a crucial point tho. Many of the critics ARE bigoted with nothing to critique but the „wokeness“ and „agenda“ by diversifying the series with black characters (who also look absolutely badass imo) I’m sure if Critics would exclusively about stuff like lore-truth their defense wouldn’t be have as aggressive. But these people are getting literal death threats so I understand their anger.

[@noahfranke467]

@@vardamir0397 and yes it is Fanbait, yes it’s not the lore-truest of adaptations but i liked some of their own stuff and I didn’t like other stuff so what? It’s a series, it cannot be perfect and if we want it perfect we can just read the books. But that would be boring because we already know everything

[@TbagsPS]

Love ya work dude. Cheers for providing entertainment in the area where hollywood is utterly failing to entertain anybody 💪

[@BigCowProductions]

Agreed!

[@thecloudtherapist]

Hollywoke. Not Hollywood 🤣

[@RikHunter1990]

“Tanked a volcano to the face” I spat my drink out 😂😂😂

[@stefanmds4684]

Listening to you get all these points across so well, truly felt great.

[@MrCovi2955]

I feel like I've entered a movie. No longer do bad writers fail to "show don't tell" in their writing, they fail to do it at life.

[@codyfelts9531]

Keep in mind, rings of power was on autoplay when booting up prime video, so the fact the numbers are inflated and STILL bad says something more.

[@xiii0722]

Oof, that's a good thing to point out actually

[@Tenchi707]

Damn you're right!

[@mkaleborn]

Omg Prime actually does that? That is…pathetic. Wow. So yeah viewership numbers literally mean nothing then.

[@codyfelts9531]

@@mkaleborn Idk if they still do or for how long, but for sure in the first week. I had no intention of watching it and it started up after another unrelated show ended. Apparently it started as a preview for some people, and after watching it for a few seconds, the title synopsis and banner would just go away.

[@benkn1002]

They can thank Peter Jackson for their opening night numbers, as it they were all hopeful viewers looking forward to seeing something additional to what they already know and love. They can't take credit for those numbers as no one had seen the show at that point. It's so stupid. The increase or decrease after the opening night is the crucial figure

[@jeffScotty]

You are the hero we all needed. Someone to tear it apart, one lie, one turd , and one phony at a time, Bravo, my good man🥰🙏🏼🎉

[@paolo74lfc]

My prediction for season 2 is that it’s not Sauron is evil for trying to gain control of Middle Earth but that his control of Mount Doom and Mordor is causing climate change, and his refusal to turn to wind and solar will mean the destruction of the world.

[@timonsolus]

No, Sauron is actually the guy saving Middle Earth from global warming by creating a vast dark cloud that will shield the world from the burning Sun and cool the surface to a nice icy chill, as well as preventing future overpopulation by culling the human pests that breed like rabbits (and the Harfoot pests that eat like rabbits).

[@albertbresca8904]

wont sauran and galadriel get it on? and have a child.. that will be called donald trump???

[@nathanwatt5545]

This plot is now being investigated by Alberta's war room

[@dodojesus4529]

@@timonsolus they just entirely loose the plot and the mass extermination begins. Led by galladriel of course

[@kaputasri]

@@dodojesus4529 depopulation just like Bill gat3s likes it.

[@peppermintpsaki1157]

The whole ado they helped create about their viewership numbers comes down to the old showbiz adage “if they’re not bragging about it, there’s something they’re hiding.”

[@Barking_Schnauzer]

I had a lot of fun watching today's vid. This is way more entertaining than the 'entertainment' that we get from all the studios in the past few years. I like your humor, sarcasm and all the on-point observations. Keep up the good work!

[@robertjames6936]

"Tolkien never said our show was s**t ... therefore, its entirely possible our show could have been good?" - Amazon's Tolkien scholars

[@HenshinFanatic]

Nah, he was "let go" after the first day of shooting scenes for having the temerity to, do his job.

[@yazoofantasy]

Me and a coworker are very big Tolkien fans so we decided to give the show a chance. They could only watch the first two episodes and quit. I continued and gave them a tl;dr version of each episode. Even on very, very brief synopsis they were not trilled. While watching I couldn't help but think about every simple but yet amazing thing in LOTR. At one point I had to pause an episode, because I started to wander if another streaming platform had the extended editions and had to check. This has not happened to me in some time and my explanation is simple - I don't like what they did to the characters. I know their names, I know who they are, but I don't recognise these people. The modern interpretations of some characters are baffling. Tolkien knew what he was writing and what he meant to say. His works don't need setting update. Changing one too many things and you are losing the original message.

[@SoneaT]

My son and I watched the series together! Because of his excitement I didn't got bored in the beginning, but I absolutely couldn't connect with Galadriel! Or any other one of the characters, even Elrond was strange. Who are those others? What was the Numenors Leaders name? Or the Hobbits.... I had my map of the LoR besides me and couldn't find any of the places they were. Needed to Google them. Then realizing they magically almost beemed to the places 😂, on top of it the ridiculous conversations they had. "We need to stop, bc it's so cold!" something like that. It's like watching those murder cases, were the off voice tells the same 3 things over and over again, in case you might forget them within 3 minutes . 🤣 How on earth would anyone expect this to be successful? And what did they do with this huge amount of money? Oh let's burn it in fire, we don't need it, because we have plastic painted Armours and there will be swords who look good from a far, no need to make them so nice like in the movies. We don't want to make merchandise, so no good looking cloth or jewelry, so let's just do CGI for the places instead of actually build them. We don't need them for more then 5 season 😜

[@mbag012]

I just love how the rings of power just keeps on giving hours of pure entertainment by providing us something to roast. Beautiful. Love this.

[@georgechapman9688]

And the memes

[@TheReal_BallzBDragon]

I bet Amazon has a warehouse of computers playing rings of power on loop. Why else would they focus on minutes watched

[@Twinrehz]

I will say one thing about rings of power: it prompted me to buy more of Tolkien's books, so I can read a *good* fucking story again!

[@Robisme]

Just like the Witcher. They hate the lore.

[@NightingaleAlt]

I’ve tried to review Rings of Power a few times now. It’s never let me leave a review. More Amazon censoring reviews, what did I expect…

[@tonypap1]

Can the boys who did "Spinal Tap" make a mocumentary about the making of this series?

[@mandowarrior123]

Noone knows, oo they were, or what they were doin'

[@tonypap1]

@@mandowarrior123 😆

[@Twenty-Seven]

As far as people wanting to see themselves represented on the screen -- I never wished Goku looked like 8-year-old me, I was the one that wanted to look like Goku

[@techwizpc4484]

Or being a human in the Lion King as a happy meal for the royal family. That would suck.

[@haleyschreiter9746]

Bless you for slogging thru so many mind-numbing articles, Disparu!

[@watch-box]

When Morfydd Clark saw the viewing figures, and read fans reviews of the series she looked furious.... ...or angry, maybe happy, or jealous, sickly, shy, tearful or bored - its hard to tell, it all looks the same.

[@80PercentScottish]

I know two other people who tried to watch it, both tapping out early on. One said "if you imagine it's nothing to do with lord of the Rings, it's semi-watchable". And the other said "don't bring up RoP around me - I'm so pissed off with it I don't want to talk about it". Absolutely amazing reviews.

[@adayarmas2010]

So what now, if it has nothing to do with lotr is not good? The fact that is not 100% following the books or whatever, it doesn't make it a bad show... ffs

[@LBrobie]

these people are utterly unbelievable! if i was asked at work why my work was so bad, and i said, "well, yeah, *today* it was. i did that on purpose. tomorrow, though, i'll bring my A game." yeah, like they'd totally believe me.🙄🤨🙄😱

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Best Tolkien content of all time, ranked: 1. Tolkien 2. LotR Trilogy 3. Disparu ripping apart this travesty of a show 4. Several underappreciated random fanfictions, youtuber summaries, etc 5. The Hobbit films 6. ???? 7. Me making a variation of the "one does not simply" meme 8. The Ring 9. Power Rangers 10. Rings of Power

[@johnbarrett4846]

I hope they make season 2. The way things are in the world right now we all need a bloody good laugh. So far season 1 has been comedy gold, long may it continue. And it will add a new horrifeying definition of the law of diminishing returns.

[@BigCowProductions]

Agreed!!! I may do a drunk/high watch of the end of RoP... but getting beyond episode 4 was too much for me... i was trying so hard to just konsume and turn my brain off, too.

[@booshmcfadden7638]

The only comedy I got was from folks like Disparu. The show itself is unwatchable.

[@MorgothBagluir]

I'd be less hateful towards it if RoP was funny, but no, it is just incredibly cringe and retarded.

[@Kiyoone]

If they advertise it for people that have insomnia... they have much more "viewers"

[@rigrmortis3393]

@@booshmcfadden7638 I watched one episode just so I could honestly review it and then edited my review after watching everybody's breakdowns to take an even bigger dump on it.

[@TheChzoronzon]

I just learnt something: anything that Parrot (lol, indeed) Analytics says, it's the other way around Like with Bellingcat...nice tools to have

[@tomwaterhouse9419]

The English-speaking world is divided between those who despise Amazon's Rings of Power, and those who have yet to see it.

[@Pleiades1955]

A billion dollars worth of CGI does not a Tolkien masterpiece make. The acting goes from bad to worse, granted they are working with some of the most godawful dialogue ever created. Every aspect of this series is bad. The writing is high school level drama club, the directing does not come from a desire to tell the Second Age as Tolkien wrote it rather, to tell a politically correct and woke version that reflects "the world we live in today", full of the modern day allegory that Tolkien despised. We knew "Meteor Man" was Gandalf and "Halbrand" was Sauron as soon as they were introduced which made the "great reveal" at the end of season one so laughable. The acting, in particular the "Mary Sue Guyladriel" character, is shockingly bad. She has but two facial expressions with which to work, her twitchy half-snarl and whatever the hell she was trying to express while riding the horse on the beach....cringeworthy! Most of the CGI scenes were impressive but for what they were spending per episode they should have been! Timeline compression, apparent time schisms that allow thousands of miles of open sea to be crossed by boat in 2 days.....🙄. So many mistakes and just bad choices made by the "showrunners" that keep saying "when in doubt go back to the books, go back to the books!" What books are they talking about? Certainly not the ones where Tolkien described the Second Age and the characters in it. This show is a mega-corporation's attempt to buy cultural relevance and stroke Bezos' ego. It was obvious that he and the showrunners knew nothing about the Middle Earth Legendarium nor cared about respecting the lore and canon. Rings of Power is a not-so-cheap knockoff of a masterpiece of fantasy fiction. The only reason Bezos bought the rights he did was to give the show the legitimacy and popularity of The Lord of the Rings branding to get people thinking they could expect an accurate re-telling of Tolkien's Second Age of Middle Earth. Instead we get this billion dollar dumpster fire for which IMDb (owned by Amazon) and Rotten Tomatoes had to "fix" the audience ratings by deleting negative reviews to prop the show up as it's viewership steadily declined. This show is an abomination of Tolkien's masterpiece that should not continue into season two. We have a couple of years so it's possible Bezos will pull the plug on this disaster and it will fade into anonymity. Talent, or a lack thereof, is inherent. While it can be honed with education and experience the fact is, if you don't possess it at birth then you shall not possess it at death. Payne and McKay misrepresented themselves when they claimed they would keep the show "as close to Tolkien as we can get".......what a load of dung! There is no hope for this show because, unlike Tolkien and even Jackson's trilogy, no one on this show in any high level position has any love of the lore or respect for the canon and it shows. This disaster is the direct result of untalented, uninspired and unsuccessful Hollywood hacks using a beloved masterpiece of fantasy fiction to promote their lack of skills, spread "THE MESSAGE" of political correctness and wokeness, and attack the fanbase. Tolkien fans aren't upset with the idea of diversity because the original HAS diversity where it makes sense. Isolated small villages in England and Northern Europe would not have had Africans, Asians or Arabs counted among them! That's a lack of understanding how the world works in actual history or fantasy pre-history, my god how clueless are these people? There was no "Mary Sue Guyladriel" warrior princess in the Second Age as she was already a couple of thousand years old, not the arrogant, pain-in-the-ass, snarly bitch that everyone hates! These characters stray so far from the lore as to not be recognizable in their roles without their names to identify them. We love the Tolkien Legendarium because he wrote it with such expertise, depth and love that we became immersed in his amazing world of Middle Earth. There is no such love or immersion for this abomination, with the exception of the Amazon shills, because this show has to "reflect the world we live in today"......😖. Fantasy fiction is written so that we can "escape the world we live in today" leaving all the pc and woke agendas behind and simply enjoying the telling of a good tale. Something Hollywood will never understand. Payne and McKay laughingly believe they are writers who can improve on Tolkien's Legendarium even though he was a major scholar of the English language, specializing in Old and Middle English. Twice Professor of Anglo-Saxon (Old English) at the University of Oxford and they are not. They have all the pedigree of a flea-bitten, mangy mongrel! The unmitigated gaul of these two Hollywood hacks is unforgivable. "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." ~J.R.R. Tolkien. I have decided to fight for Tolkien and Middle Earth at every bend in the road to the destruction of this wretched re-telling. I will take no prisoners and accept no compromise. The Rings of Power is a billion dollar dumpster fire.

[@Olav_Hansen]

As someone that doesn't have much extended lore knowledge beyond the extended edition movies... Just in episode 7 I think it was I brought up like 10 points that were like major plotholes/oversights on the side of the writers, yet somehow I got a friend backing em up on that silly shit. His main point was that they 'mainly filled in things not specifically mentioned in lore', to which I replied 'it's better to have mystery then to have bad answers'. Then I mentioned how house of the dragon (that one intense episode had just dropped) had some things intentionally left mysterious, because there's depth and only limited screen time. He basically ended the discussion by saying that it was just my opinion, I don't know how he's hiding from the millions of opinions on the internet tbh.

[@emhu2594]

If he likes it, let him like it. Not really your business

[@HerculesBallsInc]

@@emhu2594 Everyone is welcome to like the show. That's a matter of taste. Nobody is welcome to say that that writing is excellent, consistent, or not full of holes. This is objectively false.

[@mikeshoults4155]

People wanted Tolkien. They want Tolkien writing, Tolkien world's, Tolkien stories, Tolkien style, Tolkien dialogue. They watched, it wasn't Tolkien, so they stopped watching. They should have just given people what they wanted.

[@thatdarnkitteh]

18:44 OMG that BADGE line. I thought it was a joke until I saw it on the screen.

[@wabisabi6248]

Isn't it that there were reports of AD click interruption during the finale which may potentially have had the viewership register at least double the viewers?

[@weatherwax5988]

Really loving your videos, your energy and enthusiasm are good to see! I feel like the lighting has changed for this vid too, looks a lot better. Keep up the good work mate!

[@dap777754]

Disparu doesn't seem to have actually read or understood that the news clips he's bashing cuz he thinks they support ROP, wheras they are actually bashing it, too. Those clips are making the same point he's making -- that ROP sucks. So my reaction to this clip is -- he's right, but he's (Disparu) an idiot nevertheless.

[@GrimK77]

"When you torture stat numbers long enough, they will tell you whatever you want them to say"

[@NinjaMidget1969]

'There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics' - Mark Twain

[@chriswood1054]

9:11 ... Nick isn't a fan of high fiction, just being high. He was misquoted.

[@crowjr2]

"I can't believe people didn't like me destroying what they loved" - Amazorcs

[@berserkirclaws107]

I though your video was about the end of Rings of Power and the cancellation of the show ! I had a little rush of adrenaline there 🤣🤣🤣

[@kenc9236]

I watched 2 shows and fell asleep both times. I can't imagine anybody watching season 2.

[@booshmcfadden7638]

I nodded off during ep1, paused it when I randomly woke up. Rewatched it, and started ep2. The show is unwatchable. The acting is cringe, the dialog is something a 12 year old thinks intellectuals sound like, the sets are poorly done, the costumes 😳 holy crap, the orcs look bad.

[@TheSaintBigFoot]

I stopped after the second episode and then watched the whole thing here for a better experience

[@DanDaMaN95cov]

It would have been interesting to see the entire 3400 + years of the 2nd age over 5 or 6 seasons. The Numenorian, Dwarf and Lesser men cast changing every season while the Elves and Aniur spirits remaining the same. A focus on the Numenor from the first king Elros to the 25th Ar-Pharazôn. Going from a pround race of men blessed with lifespans 4 times that of lesser men with good relations with the Valar to a egotistical, paranoid empire, fearful of mortality and jealously towards the elves. Though Saurons trickery they believe aging is a curse and invading the undying lands would make them immortal. But we can't have that cause that would be following Tolkien and Tolkien was a racist, sexist Christian. No we need to reimagine it for a modern audience to better reflect our modern perfect society.

[@philipebbrell2793]

Watch Untangled Tolkein videos on what Rings of Power series could have been. He produced before the show aired, but after photos released and works through five seasons. A great adaption ideas.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

My idea was each season focus on the fall of each group. They all fell. The Elves due to Celebrimbor's desire to out shine his ancestor, The Black Numenorens who chose to follow Melkor in their desire to be immortal, the Dwarves to their greed. Ending with the last battle of Elves and men that saw Sauron lose the One Ring. Each could start with Sauron gifting them the rings, except the Elves would be them making them. Edit: Unfortunately the showrunners want to retell the Fellowship which isn't what the 2nd Age is about at all. They've already destroyed enough of the canon that Lord of the Rings wouldn't have happened.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

I think a lot of it comes down to one central difference that you put your finger on: according to Tolkien, Iluvatar is the one character who is silently present on every page. He is neither absent nor indifferent, but is actually influencing events constantly so that the most 'unlikely' things happen to benefit the heroes. Gandalf points it out once even in the story. But the showrunners don't want a divine presence, let alone a benevolent one. The only powers they want to admit into their world is a Sauron who can apparently mind-control people without them being aware of it and girl-power. In Tolkien, Galadriel was tutored by one of the gods directly and immediately saw through Sauron's disguise as the 'giver of gifts' and mistrusted him. But here there are no gods and Sauron easily tricks her. There is no alternative to his machinations other than different evil machinations.

[@Belbivdevoe]

@@debanydoombringer1385 you're right.. why in the fuck did they not introduce the rings till the last episode

[@rwaggs81]

I mean, Tolkien probably was a racist and sexist (kinda normal at the time). All the dark people in LOTR are bad easterlings and southerners, and outside of Eowyn and Galadriel, the females are basically ancillary characters. This isn't a secret. But, if you're uncomfortable with making something set in that already established world, then you probably shouldn't. Personally, I still found some enjoyment in the thing, but it's fully just fan fiction at this point, and will never be considered canon unless some significant stuff changes. Another note. I didn't realize the size of the budget until this video. THAT, more than anything, is quite alarming and disappointing. How, with that budget, are we not seeing an epic, generations spanning saga about the wars with Morgoth?

[@hakonsoreide]

Amazon also disallows many, or even most, negative reviews of the show, regardless of how much they follow the review guidelines. I was wondering about the review averages, but after mine being denied twice, I can see how they moderate it.

[@The_Grey_Wanderer99]

I was one of those people. Gave it 2 episodes and bailed on it. It really was that bad

[@Elephant-Fresh]

Wow two episodes id have bailed 5 minutes in

[@The_Grey_Wanderer99]

@@Elephant-Fresh I really tried to be objective and not let the "Tolkien purist" in me show. I REALLY tried. The show sucks

[@Lonovavir]

Journalists: Rings of Power is an amazing series, it's the next Cobra Kai. Normal people: Quiet!!!!!

[@robertellis6853]

Tolkien fans: "Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth"

[@johnolism]

RoP and HoD have a lot of similarities... -Altered source material -Diversified cast -Slower first season to set up the next Seems like those things can be done right and can be done wrong because HoD is actually entertaining

[@rigrmortis3393]

If it wasn't for my obvious bias I might have actually watched HotD because of everyone's positive breakdowns. As a book reader that has gone from hopeful to pissed off at Martin these last ~25 freaking years I just can't do it.

[@johnolism]

@@rigrmortis3393 I'm abstaining from the anime Cyberpunk Edgerunners because the game was such a let down so I can get that. HotD really do smack tho

[@EinFelsbrocken]

@@johnolism Bro. Just watch Edgerunners. Its great shit. Game's still more or less what it was, but the anime is kind of a must see. Imo. Enjoy :)

[@johnolism]

@@EinFelsbrocken All my friends are telling me the same, but I'm being obstinate as fuck. I know I'd love it though

[@williamchristy9463]

@@johnolism Cyberpunk is a whole series of games. They released one bad Vidya. Don't let that cause you to dismiss other media in the franchise. Many popular game series have bad movies.

[@dereklong7686]

'Exercise in social shame'. You nailed it.

[@friendsofthegerund7693]

Thanks, to "God", that the writer or writresse of the opening headline was literate, so as to have written "shrank" and not "shrunk". Plus 1 point for him.

[@younger544]

If they put as much effort into the actual writing as they have put into trying to convince us it wasn't a flaming trash fire it might have been pretty good.

[@nuntana2]

It would still be crap. They should just ditch it and make up their own story populated by a boring, prissy, feminist, inclusive cast. This is the way the entertainment industry is going after all.

[@sterling7]

Why did it need to include the wizard and the Harfoots in season 1? Because those responsible think that people won't recognize it as a Lord of the Rings property without [proto-]hobbits and [proto-]Gandalf. That is how little faith the creators had in their audience, their writing, or both.

[@rio20d]

I 've just read an article from bounding into comics that their show ruiners Pain and Decay are actually kept and will not be sidelined for now, to avoid sinking first season Emmy odds. This is what the article said and I quote: "Amazon will keep current The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power showrunners J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay in their current roles for at least one more outing in order to boost the first season’s chances of securing an Emmy." So they seriously think that they could even get nominated for an Emmy let alone winning it, what load of hubris, lol 😂😂, but if they do win it then Lord Bezos is really just buying the votes, yes money talks especially if you have a lot of it, but it will be a disgrace to Emmy. I just hope that their billion dollar RoP shitshow won't even get nominated. If HotD do get nominated or even win it, that would be a hard blow Amazon's ego and pride, as HotD is their direct competition in the fantasy category.

[@umapessoaqualquer3688]

The best part of the series was when Galadriel shouted to Sauron "it's Ringing time" and then Sauron died

[@djohnsveress6616]

The stars... ah yes.. The Staaaars, meanwhile Mark Hamill the fucking legend not only in Star wars but to DC as well as giving the most iconic voice to Joker ever. That guy, openly shat all over the franchise he was part of. Why ? Cause it was bad. These people, These "Stars" on the other hand are only stars with their Black hole like Ego..

[@crowhaven895]

I don't know what the big fuss is about, I'm looking forward to season 2 when Galadriel becomes a sorceress by boosting her Midi-chlorians

[@onomatopoeia7505]

Not her .wav-chlorians?

[@mandowarrior123]

Perhaps the most annoying part is they made her a brute, not an old stateswoman. She's one of the oldest and most powerful elves, she can see across time and space, she's meant to be a bit of a monster. She'd make a great general, not fighter. I won't say she is personable but protective, trying to abandon her footsoldier was insane.

[@Beastair]

How did the showrunners not even research what pyroclastic flow is if its going to be in the show????

[@Darkdaej]

This is why they should have just created brand new characters and have them have adventures in the Second Age - with smaller roles by established characters like Galadriel to link everything with the content they couldn't use. It should be pretty simple to write up a story set in Middle-Earth without ripping canon to shreds.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

Indeed. There are single events they could have lasered in on and spent seasons on by themselves. For example, when Numenor decided that they don't like being kept out of 'heaven' and so decide to take it by force. Now THAT's a story just THINKING about it. It could basically be like the Iliad. What they gave us instead will never be a classic anything except a classic embarrassment.

[@dodojesus4529]

@@HerculesBallsInc or just following some merchants, traveling getting caught up in regional conflicts of the times etc. Theres a lot of shit you can do in this universe, they just patently cant

[@ravnholt]

I am continuely amazed by the blindsight of amazon. they wanted an IP to rival GoT and chose Tolkien, when Dragon Age was right there for the taking, opened ended and with all the modern social issues and representation to sate even the hungriest purple haired keyboard warrior. and they went for the rings and act surprised when the fans don't turn up to the mangled wreck of a show.

[@TatyanaSZabanova]

The problem is not that they don't care about canon / Tolkien legacy / whatever. They are just horrible at their job. I am a big Tolkien's fan, and I would not mind if they made something entirely different if result was GOOD. The problem is that the series is shit even if we forget Tolkien entirely.

[@RespectTheSourceMaterial]

I've seen some bad faith actors on twitter saying that all shows have declining viewership and that it's normal,and they give better call Saul as an example of that. The difference is that bcs DIDN'T COST ONE BILLION DOLLARS. Amazon said themselves that this show MUST become a cultural phenomenon and no matter how good bcs was it never became a cultural phenomenon. Shows that define culture are game of thrones,stranger things, breaking bad etc. And do you know what these shows have in common? Their viewership went up as time went on. House of the dragon saw an increase in viewership between episodes, unlike rings of power, and that show cost 20 million per ep (rop cost 60 million per episode for reference). Normal successes like the boys or bcs are failures for this show, and I don't think people understand how successful the most expensive show in the history needed to be to be considered a success. If the numbers are already declining weeks after the finale then this show will be off the charts in a couple of months. And what's the reason to have a billion dollar show that performs worse than regular priced shows? Don't let people gaslight you this is failing hard.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Exactly, they didn't spend that much just to be a "hit". They wanted a must see show that would get them more subs. All this talk about viewer numbers is repressing that fact. I haven't seen anyone bring up how many extra subs they have gotten since the series' debut.

[@80PercentScottish]

@@marychocolatefairy I cancelled my Prime, not just because of RoP, but that they'd already pissed me off with WoT too. Two beloved worlds of mine that they took steaming turds upon - both with dead authors who can't stop them.

[@Weaseldog2001]

Better Call Saul kept my attention, every episode, every season. It had great storylines, great characters, interesting plots, and believable human drama. If ROP had any of that, I might've watched more than two episodes.

[@mandowarrior123]

Usually the earlier episodes are watched which increases the number, unlike tv. You 'catch up' so its normal for viewership to increase as the series goes on on streaming due to word of mouth. It essentially means people gave up more than got on board partway.

[@duck_thor3585]

my favorites out of these series 1) 'do you know that ship looks up and thats why it floats' 2) 'what happened to your wife?' 'everyday i look how sun rises on the east and sets on the west' walks away without giving answer 3) 'GIVE IT TO MEH RAWH!' 4) 'you have visitors' gets escorted to castle to see 'visitors' 5) mithril origins: 'very evil balrog fought very good elf on a top of a mountain. also there is a tree. and and... also silmaril is there!!! AND LIGHTNING!!! MELTS SILMARIL!!! yeah.'

[@Rellana1]

The simarils are just about impossible to destroy if you aren't the maker,as Feanor did mention that he might be able to open his jewels,as I remember.

[@mrjackpots1326]

I'm glad you mentioned Squid Game because Koreans know exactly how to make excellent television. It's the reason Netflix carries so many Korean shows and is pumping tons of money into Korean studios to make more. I rarely ever watch English language TV anymore, particularly any of the garbage that comes out of Hollywood. If you want to see great television then just watch My Mister, It's OK Not To Be OK, or Flower of Evil. They're on Netflix, and get used to reading subtitles, it's a skill you will need in the future unless Hollywood pulls it's finger out.

[@nathanthom8176]

Koreans, do a lot of good serious drama but anything outside of that is generally trash (if well produced). Anything light-hearted or slightly comedic results in the worst acting ever (hammy and overdone) and this is almost universal. It is a cultural acting style they seam to like (also present in Japanese programs of a similar vein) but for me it ruins what could otherwise be actual good shows; at the same time the US content quality is so inconsistent recently, so it makes sense people are branching out into different genre/markets.

[@OccamAsylum]

Just remember.. NO ONE is too big to fail. Not even Amazon.

[@zoranvujovic998]

"The Black Company" is currently the only one of my favorite book series that hasn't been turned into a tv series yet. And i sure hope it stays that way!