Why Rings of Power Failed where House of the Dragon Worked | One v One

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Amazon's Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power is here to dethrone Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon as the new biggest show on TV. But did it? The seasons are still ongoing I guess, but based on the pilot episode, House of the Dragon comes on top. Which is strange because both shows feature a lot of the fantasy elements. So in today's episode of One v One, let's compare these two shows with each other to see how the fantasy side of House of the Dragon is handled in such a way that it's much easier for casual audiences to get into the story... than compared to Rings of Power.
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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (2022)
Prime Video's The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power brings to screens for the very first time the heroic legends of the fabled Second Age of Middle-earth's history. This epic drama is set thousands of years before the events of J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and will take viewers back to an era in which great powers were forged, kingdoms rose to glory and fell to ruin, unlikely heroes were tested, hope hung by the finest of threads, and the greatest villain that ever flowed from Tolkien’s pen threatened to cover all the world in darkness. Beginning in a time of relative peace, the series follows an ensemble cast of characters, both familiar and new, as they confront the long-feared re-emergence rings of power vs house of the dragon rings of power bad show good show trash house of the dragon good show bad show trash rings of power watch free online free house of the dragon watch free online free shocking moments only action pilot episodes is house of the dragon better than rings of power of evil to Middle-earth. From the darkest depths of the Misty Mountains, to the majestic forests of the elf-capital of Lindon, to the breathtaking island kingdom of Númenor, to the furthest reaches of the map, these kingdoms and characters will carve out legacies that live on long after they are gone.
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Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon (2022)
An internal succession war within House Targaryen at the height of its power, 172 years before the birth of Daenerys Targaryen. King Viserys I Targaryen, Prince Daemon Targaryen, Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen

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@Unpainted_Huffhines
@Unpainted_Huffhines 2 жыл бұрын
An old man slowly hobbling across a hall in HotD had more emotional impact than every episode of RoP combined.
@aaroncarroll2417
@aaroncarroll2417 2 жыл бұрын
A real "Oh shit!" Moment Edit: One of many
@ktbecstasy
@ktbecstasy 2 жыл бұрын
No cap
@Financebyryan
@Financebyryan 2 жыл бұрын
Damn somehow that is a fact
@commiehunter733
@commiehunter733 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@Force_Of_Habit
@Force_Of_Habit 2 жыл бұрын
T H I S H I S
@n1harYT
@n1harYT 2 жыл бұрын
Aemond's lost eye gave more chills than they could do with Sauron's eye
@DarthMalgusSith_Lord
@DarthMalgusSith_Lord 2 жыл бұрын
"do not mourn me, mother. it was a fair exchange. I may have lost an eye, but I gain a dragon" - Aemond Targaryen
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthMalgusSith_Lord Aemond less than ten years later: "GIMME THAT EYE BOI I WANT ONE OF THEM EYES!"
@ExponentMars
@ExponentMars 2 жыл бұрын
@@tatersalad76 *accidentally kills him*
@juana_marie
@juana_marie 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExponentMars *Assassins kill his brother's child*
@riyaswami8932
@riyaswami8932 10 ай бұрын
@@tatersalad76 It wasn't for him. He wanted Luke's eye to give it to his mother.
@mmmahh9056
@mmmahh9056 2 жыл бұрын
An old decrypted man walking up to his throne made me cry more than the entire season of rings of power
@AlexanderJoneshttps
@AlexanderJoneshttps 2 жыл бұрын
Same here also his death had a big impact on the story
@tjslam26
@tjslam26 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode (s1e8). The servant girl who Aegon raped (Danya?) and uncle Vaemond Velaryon gave better performances in that one episode than anyone on a whole season of Rings of Power.
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjslam26 God Twitchy face Galadriel haunts me in my dreams man.
@andresdelaosa8485
@andresdelaosa8485 2 жыл бұрын
​@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 It is only natural to feel conflicted
@lights_utopia1130
@lights_utopia1130 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjslam26 The background peasant standing there had better acting than any character in the whole season of rings of power
@sentientmustache8360
@sentientmustache8360 2 жыл бұрын
I felt more sympathy for Caraxes than anyone in ROP, i mean, look at the boy, he’s a noodle, how can you not love him
@j.vinton4039
@j.vinton4039 2 жыл бұрын
Caraxes is one of the toughest noodles during the DoD. Only matched in power by Vhagar; but I won’t spoil anything if you don’t know yet.
@torenmulrine9714
@torenmulrine9714 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.vinton4039 still a noodle
@ninarain9422
@ninarain9422 2 жыл бұрын
He's a danger noodle but adorable nonetheless
@mimicmey
@mimicmey 2 жыл бұрын
A noodle that sounds like a leaking balloon, I love him 🐉
@SolarBrain4128
@SolarBrain4128 2 жыл бұрын
Caraxes is the king of all danger noodles, nope ropes, and sneks.
@FACTAWAVES
@FACTAWAVES 2 жыл бұрын
5 kids fighting in HotD had more action and emotion than the entire RoP season
@joklamarbgd5303
@joklamarbgd5303 2 жыл бұрын
For real, i was like "Damn they delivering haymakers to each other"
@AceHufflepuff
@AceHufflepuff 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny I read the book, and know of the story through the history and lore of westeros but that entre fight I was like "GET HIS ASS LUCERYS GET HIS ASS!" lol
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 жыл бұрын
@@AceHufflepuff i've never been so tense looking children fight until i saw that
@melancholyman369
@melancholyman369 2 жыл бұрын
Oof
@Jenazad.
@Jenazad. 2 жыл бұрын
And an Old man walking up the stairs was 10x more impactfull than their Finale.
@MrLopez2004-t9x
@MrLopez2004-t9x 2 жыл бұрын
House of the Dragon is honestly the most surprising piece of media I've ever seen. I thought it was going to be garbage but damn! I've never been this surprised with any movie or show more than House of the Dragon. Bring on season 2!
@kimberlyoldschool
@kimberlyoldschool 2 жыл бұрын
My husband & I went from still being salty over GoT and having no interest in watching this, to dressing as Viserys and Alicent for Halloween. Even people who had not yet seen the show knew who we were supposed to be and had chosen side (“Sorry, I’m Team Black”). I have not heard _anyone_ talk about Rings.
@georgechapman9688
@georgechapman9688 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlyoldschool it's a lesson to the world. The fans can be won back to the thing they used to love if the new content is well done. (Team green 💚)
@budakbaongsiah
@budakbaongsiah 2 жыл бұрын
This and Andor to me.
@woodside4life
@woodside4life 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlyoldschool I was the same way. Funny, what a difference a good season of television makes!
@DanDanDoe
@DanDanDoe 2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised so many people enjoy House of the Dragon. Hell, even surprised to see a video with “House of the Dragon worked” in its title. I couldn’t really get into it, and neither did anyone else I know who binged GoT. Once I finally started to getting a feel for it, we moved forward in time and many actors changed, while also many actors didn’t change. It broke all immersion and I just couldn’t get myself to care for anyone. I still haven’t watched the final episode. I just can’t be bothered.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 2 жыл бұрын
HOTD's biggest strength is that you always understand every character's wants, desires and decisions, even if you disagree with them. In ROP, you end up rooting for Sauron to eliminate all these idiots.
@charlessapp1835
@charlessapp1835 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought anyone could make me want to cheer for Sauron like these jokes. My favorite parts in the show is when Guyladriel gets hit in the face by a 800-1100 degree Celsius pyroclastic flow, and when that hobbit got killed.
@maak6270
@maak6270 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlessapp1835 Smelly bastard bites the dust! 😂
@sirshotty7689
@sirshotty7689 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlessapp1835 that scene was basically a light snowfall for all the characters lmao. The toxic fumes alone would’ve killed everyone there.
@dyingearth
@dyingearth 2 жыл бұрын
I've never rooted for Sauron as much as RoP.
@marlonyo
@marlonyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirshotty7689 love how everthing and everyone near galadriel was burn bu she was compleatly fine not a single hair damage.
@marks2997
@marks2997 2 жыл бұрын
When the king walked through that door, despite his age and bad health, it had the same impact for me as Hangman saving Maverick. Really well done and perhaps more so in HotD as there was a family element to it - I am showing up for my daughter.
@debzykvids
@debzykvids 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly ironic that the franchise with a mainly adult only audience got a better reception than the one aimed for a more family friendly audience - it really just comes down to the writing and handling of high concept genres like fantasy at the end of the day.
@CNNBlackmailSupport
@CNNBlackmailSupport 2 жыл бұрын
That's not really accurate in this case, since Rings was advertised as Game of Thrones with elves. I don't know how many kids read books these days, but it isn't nearly what it was 20 years ago, which wasn't nearly what it was 40 years ago. The Silmarillion is pretty much the avatar of TLDR for people today.
@debzykvids
@debzykvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@CNNBlackmailSupport I'd half agree, except that compared to HoTD and GoT, it's rated PG or PG-13 for most of its episodes (and even when there is an R rated episode, it's nowhere as violent, scary, or gory than what a GoT/HotD episode would have).
@debzykvids
@debzykvids 2 жыл бұрын
Plus the marketing itself was not highlighting much that made it clearly for an older audience like what GoT appeals to, even with its fantasy elements.
@actin9294
@actin9294 2 жыл бұрын
RoP family friendly?? What happened to those intimacy instructors that Amazon had hired???
@debzykvids
@debzykvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@actin9294 Guess they just went to the one scene where the Gandalf dude appeared naked out of the sky. :/
@rhaenyraitargaryen6360
@rhaenyraitargaryen6360 2 жыл бұрын
The Game of Thrones universe always centered their stories around human emotion and motivation. It was their driving force and they captivate you with moments like the iron throne scene in episode 8. It's really simple without any context, but since they pulled you into the emotions and motivations of Viserys, you also felt emotional. Rings of Power didn't just lack any of that, they avoided it in any way shape or form.
@thecompanioncube4211
@thecompanioncube4211 2 жыл бұрын
That's the sole reason why GoT got it's traction in the first place. Conflicting personal desires, personal hunger for power and willingness to do anything and everything to achieve that, and fantasy setting as cherry on top. Shame they messed it all up in last seasons but the core element was always solid
@kiboma4209
@kiboma4209 2 жыл бұрын
Both worlds of GoT and LotR are awesome, personally consider the worldbuilding of LotR better but storywise, I felt like GoT was more interesting
@marionarda2790
@marionarda2790 2 жыл бұрын
It was centered on real historical events ( war of the roses)
@alvinmcgreen7087
@alvinmcgreen7087 2 жыл бұрын
@@marionarda2790 that's one of the inspirations, not what the whole thing is centered around
@hopLight2322
@hopLight2322 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiboma4209had rings been true to the source material, it probably wouldn’t have failed.
@wjzav1971
@wjzav1971 2 жыл бұрын
I think it comes down to something similar of why the earlier seasons of Game of Thrones worked where the later ones didn't. You write relatable characters with understandable consistent motifs you win. You have stuff happen and characters doing stupid shit for no clear reason, you loose.
@RTDice11
@RTDice11 2 жыл бұрын
HotD doesnt do that at all though. It's GoT Season 8 levels of storytelling that people are lapping up because it isn't Rings of Power.
@G0TIMAN
@G0TIMAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@RTDice11 XDDDDD
@TheSofkujepanen
@TheSofkujepanen 2 жыл бұрын
@@RTDice11 care to explain how exactly?
@JakeLYT
@JakeLYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@bkg5494 being loose is TIGHT.
@wayothefro3249
@wayothefro3249 2 жыл бұрын
@@RTDice11 No, not it's not. The only scenes that ever came close to GoT season 8 were Daemon's suicide charge on the beach and the Rhaenys scene in the last episode. You're tripping if you think the entire show is anywhere close to the atrocity that was season 8 of GoT.
@noobandfriends2420
@noobandfriends2420 2 жыл бұрын
The twist should have been: Galadriel was actually Sauron in disguise. Galadriel was really meditating in a tree somewhere.
@BKPrice
@BKPrice 2 жыл бұрын
Have Cate Blanchett come onto the show and fight against Morfydd Clarke Galadriel and reveal her to be an impostor.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын
So, like Luke Skywalker tricking his nephew on Last Jedi?
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen Жыл бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146 lol no, that's NOT the same thing at all. Luke wasn't revealed to be some evil big bad at all, he was just projecting his image somewhere.
@_greenrunner_
@_greenrunner_ 2 жыл бұрын
simple. An old man at the end of his days, who walked across his throne room and said “i will sit on the throne today” to his power hungry hand gave me more emotion than the entire season of RoP. why? Once has compelling writing behind it, which is ultimately always the answer to these things
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 жыл бұрын
Viserys is the one true king
@sailormoonwannabe
@sailormoonwannabe 2 жыл бұрын
That scene was so amazing and Daemon putting the crown back on his head.
@MateusAntonioBittencourt
@MateusAntonioBittencourt 2 жыл бұрын
For all his faults... and Viserys had many... in that scene he showed true strength. He was in excruciating pain... but refused milk of the poppy... and then walked the whole room alone. And the best part is that it's not out of the nowhere just because the script demands Rhaenyra to have a "win". But the culmination of his vacillations and indecisions the whole season. He makes a commitment to Rhaenyra... but have more children. He reaffirms his Rhaenyra as heir and kicks Otto out... only to then gets Otto back as hand and leave him to rule, knowing full well Otto wants Aegon to succeed him. He always followed the path of least resistance. But not at that time. In that scene he showed why he was King.
@YouCantDeleteDenzelL
@YouCantDeleteDenzelL 2 жыл бұрын
Paddy Considine's acting in that whole episode was just phenomenal.
@ne0nmancer
@ne0nmancer 2 жыл бұрын
@gg ddfccc What the fuck?
@bigj1905
@bigj1905 2 жыл бұрын
Basically: House of Dragons is a person focused story with fantasy in the background. While Rings of Power is a fantasy story with people in the background.
@yourdreams2440
@yourdreams2440 2 жыл бұрын
Bad assessment. The Silmarillion is basically what you said rings of power is. It’s not game of thrones, and it’s not as people focused. The problem with rings of power is it has bad writing. If it were faithful it it’s source material it would’ve awesome but still not as character-driven as hotd. It’s a different style of story.
@Viduthalai-k8
@Viduthalai-k8 2 жыл бұрын
Hotd which person foucus?
@Panteni87
@Panteni87 2 жыл бұрын
@@yourdreams2440 Silmarillion is about the first age, rop is about the second age.
@yourdreams2440
@yourdreams2440 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panteni87 The plot of RoP is laid out in the silmarillion like the fall of Numenor
@zawarudo1041
@zawarudo1041 Жыл бұрын
no, rings of power is esg-positive agendas with "folks" that check the boxes not even in the background, cause they are so "powerful"
@TheSmackdown800
@TheSmackdown800 2 жыл бұрын
The basic principle is: dont tell, show In Rings of Power characters often just tell how they feel, like Galadriel explains 100 times that she is angry and the audience just has to take it. In HotD they have introduced the characters slowly and demonstrated the motivation and character of each person. Now you could probably turn off the sound and you would still feel the tention in every scene.
@tjslam26
@tjslam26 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, how can you "show" that there's a tempest in you if you don't tell anyone?
@bladedancer9140
@bladedancer9140 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjslam26 it’s the difference between acing a math test and constantly saying you’re very smart
@reinhartnata47
@reinhartnata47 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjslam26 never heard of the saying "show, don't tell"?
@tjslam26
@tjslam26 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinhartnata47 I've heard someone tell that to a Rings of Power writer but they had their headphones on and ignored them.
@gymbledore9739
@gymbledore9739 2 жыл бұрын
Issue is in RoP when they tried to show something it then didnt make sense, people did nonsensical things, they got both aspects wrong, its a classic example of people who dont know or understand the material they are drawing from and want to do their vision of it. issues arise when it breaks the fundamental rules of that world. they would have been better off doing something new instead of a bastardization of a beloved and well known franchise.
@appledornart2535
@appledornart2535 2 жыл бұрын
It really feels like it comes down to good writing vs bad writing. The complex interactions of a complicated family and the drama from greedy people grasping for power, vs. people just doing and saying things that gets us to the next set piece or reveals the next "mystery" box to string the audience along with cliffhangers that never go anywhere.
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen Жыл бұрын
It's fine to have "mystery" and "cliffhangers" of course as I LOVE those, just as much as many other people but it's just a matter on HOW it's done as we should care about the characters first and foremost before heading straight into any plotpoint or gradually develop the characters AS we're heading into every single new plotpoint.
@Funinightmare
@Funinightmare 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Galadriel's motivation to avenge her brother might as well not even exist because after the pilot she pretty much just attacks, threatens and insults basically anyone she sees. It's almost like a tragedic character who cannot be free of her own hatred, but the show is trying to tell you that she is the good one and everyone else is wrong. This isn't just a Lord of the rings thing this is just plain horrible writing and any franchise, any story can be tainted by such arrogance. I am extremely happy that House of Dragon is smart enough and passionate enough to steer far away from such mistakes
@FULANODETAL
@FULANODETAL 2 жыл бұрын
she got more brothers
@Funinightmare
@Funinightmare 2 жыл бұрын
@@FULANODETAL I'm sure she loves them all very very deeply just as much as Finrod according to Amazon, the most faithful writers ever
@zacharyhobia159
@zacharyhobia159 2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget when she told Adar about her one true desire of seeing the entire Orc race get genocided in a way that makes Adar look like the good guy
@anhkduc7930
@anhkduc7930 2 жыл бұрын
Because the show is written by amateurs whose have basically no show in their career
@TheSofkujepanen
@TheSofkujepanen 2 жыл бұрын
@@bkg5494 i believe the word is ”tragic”
@Detroit_Vs._Everybody
@Detroit_Vs._Everybody 2 жыл бұрын
I think the funniest part of this whole debacle is that A.) The writers actually got this script published B.) An untold number of suits signed off on it with glowing praise C.) And then the EPIC FAIL of Amazon thinking the Sauron reveal was clever... but hey at least they didn't delete 5,000 1-star reviews and get caught in real time... All in all, I think we can chalk this one up as a "W" for Amazon.
@user-mj4ym7om5n
@user-mj4ym7om5n 2 жыл бұрын
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@anaalicia5029
@anaalicia5029 2 жыл бұрын
You are really worth listening to for some of these people getting crazy high budgets and succumb to bad writing.
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 жыл бұрын
This is yet another case study about how money doesn't automatically make your production good
@westrim
@westrim 2 жыл бұрын
But they won't. Echo chambers and all that. No one important in media production is scrolling KZbin looking for critiques of their work.
@Gungrave123
@Gungrave123 2 жыл бұрын
@@westrim M-she-U writers apparently are
@firefiy8789
@firefiy8789 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gungrave123 Nah, they are scrolling through reddit. A place where arguments can never be as clearly explained as on youtube, not really.
@raulvidal2343
@raulvidal2343 2 жыл бұрын
When they invest too much money, the producers get scared of losing it and instead of letting the creatives in charge of the script do their work, they have to get in and play safe. Amazon treats Tolkien as Disney treats Star Wars, or any franchise they own at this point: rely on nostalgia and references instead of a good plot.
@EpicGamer10075
@EpicGamer10075 2 жыл бұрын
You do the best ad transitions of any KZbinr I've seen. So many of them just stuff them into the middle of the video with no proper transitions, but you actually work the transition into the stuff you're actually talking about in the video itself, which sponsors the company AND shows a very good example of what you're talking about!
@aaroncarroll2417
@aaroncarroll2417 2 жыл бұрын
Very few do it this smoothly
@Ivotas
@Ivotas 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, this is the only channel where I'm actually looking forward to the sponsorship because the transitions are amazing. They literally show Filmento himself actually applying what he is talking about.
@amberslahlize7961
@amberslahlize7961 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I honestly busted out laughing at this transition, it was just great!
@majorknight859
@majorknight859 Жыл бұрын
IKR. In all honesty, I hate the sponsorship bits even when they're done by expert comedians so I usually skip them or fast forward if they're in the middle In Filmento's case, I don't think I ever fast forwarded anything given how he fits them Soo naturally with whatever he was talking about
@modeyv2
@modeyv2 2 жыл бұрын
The awkward moment when you want an evil cloud to win, so that you can finally watch something interesting happen.
@FerrettSchlocK
@FerrettSchlocK 2 жыл бұрын
I might go back to RoP eventually, but I was hit hard in the first episode with a strong case of "this narration would have made a kick-ass first season". Actually feeling the pain of seeing the glow-trees dying, the hardships of battles in Middle Earth, know the brother better and feel his loss. Feel anger at Sauron for him being evil and not just because he is the bad guy in a well-known franchise. Yeah, that would have been great. Instead it all happens in two minutes and we spend long periods of hobbits doing nothing of any importance.
@Relixification
@Relixification 2 жыл бұрын
@@FerrettSchlocK they didnt have the rights to Silmarillion (thank god), and even if they did, it'd be woke asf, and they will deviate from the source material. No, they chose specifically to have the appendices from LotR for the second age, because the rights to it ambiguous enough for them to woke it up with their political agendas. They wouldn't risk making their own woke appropriated original fantasy, when they can just get the massive fandom of an established fantasy from the greatest fantasy writer of all time.
@Prelooker
@Prelooker 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. This comes to prove franchises are worth nothing with poor writing. Another con in ROP, to me, is that they use super famous characters, like Elrond and Galadriel, and change the lore completely. Meaning they didn't even take advantage of having such well-known chars to build their story upon. Instead of bringing new chars, like HOTD, they twisted canon names and left many scratching their heads, myself included. Like, Galadriel single and in armor in the Second Age? She was living with Celeborn in some woods by then and couldn't care less about war. I know strong female leads are the trend, but hey, they could have spent a few of their zillion dollars on a good writer with a slight idea about the franchise world, right?
@mariecarie1
@mariecarie1 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, while I’m someone who prefers holding to the lore as well, I would’ve been content with these famous characters being *consistent* with how they’ve already been established. We know they’re both over one thousands of years old, so it seems very unlikely they (particularly Galadriel) would act SO stupid, hasty and belligerent. Their personalities would have long since established, and it just seems super unlikely that a stupid, hasty, belligerent elf would chill to become glowy-glowy mirror queen after another thousand years. I mean, maybe elven personalities develop and change waaaaaaaay slower than humans, heck if I know. This show just has a lot of problems.
@Prelooker
@Prelooker 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariecarie1 Absolutely agree. They could have created some lesser Noldor princess to fit the role, instead of trying to update Galadriel to the current strong-female-lead standard -which in this show actually translates to what you said: stupid, hasty and belligerent.
@mariecarie1
@mariecarie1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Prelooker But most people who watch the show already know Galadriel, so apparently it’s just easier to hijack her character and twist it into what they want than create a new character. I mean, obviously-any other new characters are completely flatline and inconsistent. I know I’m only an armchair critic, but the writing is just atrocious.
@Prelooker
@Prelooker 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariecarie1 Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And we're all armchair critics in the end. TV shows are not meant for writers only, but for all of us. Shame on them their writing is so poor even us can spot it.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын
That's the problem of Hollywood these days, they choose quantity (money) over quality!
@Meerkat73
@Meerkat73 2 жыл бұрын
High peaks of season 1 for both shows: RoP : 3 small ships of Valinorans carrying 300 warriors + (minimum) 300 horses + food, tents and other equipment engage "Deus ex Machina" style "epic battle" with a couple of hundred Orcs in a small village that represents whole region of Southlands, slicing down scores of enemies with a CHAIN HANDHELD BY A COUPLE OF HORSEMEN (!!!) and being victorious, of course, followed by threat of genocide of the whole race spoken by a lead "hero". HoTD: A single man, rotten by leprosy, physically half-dead king makes an agonizing last grand entrance and walk of pure pain to save his kingdom and heritage. No contest between the two.
@kathlos
@kathlos 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely superb scene with Viserys, even though the decision to put so many swords there, is kinda bad. Couldn't stop thinking that he could just drop and die on a sword right there made me cackle a bit. On the other hand, that added to the tension.
@Ollyiswild_04
@Ollyiswild_04 2 жыл бұрын
I would say House of the Dragon is far superior
@crayolaclouds2696
@crayolaclouds2696 2 жыл бұрын
I read that the crown fell off Paddy's (King Viserys) head by accident and Matt (Daemon) played along and picked it up and it ended up adding so much more emotion to the scene that the director kept it in. I think it was a good idea, it added so much emotion to the scene.
@kathlos
@kathlos 2 жыл бұрын
@@crayolaclouds2696 That's a good one. It does for sure. Maybe this is the "reason" they removed them they removed them later on? You know in Game of thrones ERA ahahaha
@vyntarus9618
@vyntarus9618 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have to be a "human story", it just needs to have characters with understandable motives for the audience. It's incredibly hard to get invested in a story or its characters if the only reason they seem to do or say anything is to advance to the next plot point/location, which is the primary problem with RoP. EDIT: Just got to minute 14 where you say basically the same thing. Good!
@kueapel911
@kueapel911 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the good ol days where the protagonist have humbled beginning. Either they were weak, or humiliated by their adversary, then struggle, and then triumph in the end. Meanwhile ring of power.... galadriel decimates the bully as a child, decimates the troll as an adult, and is 100% right about everything... not a single humbling aspect at all. Now we know why aragorn isn't the main protagonist in LoTR. Now we know why aragorn and everyone else bow to our beloved hobbits in the end.
@singularityraptor4022
@singularityraptor4022 2 жыл бұрын
Same issue in modern StarCrap..I mean Starwars
@CinceTheDay
@CinceTheDay 2 жыл бұрын
nice copy and paste comment. where were you when "commando" was released? ahh, I see... it's only a problem when the lead is female.
@CinceTheDay
@CinceTheDay 2 жыл бұрын
guys, why do you even put up the act? If I'd place 100 bucks on your views on global warming, covid and racism I would not go home a broke man. so why all the theatrics a la "I have black friends too", "ripley" and "I'm not a misogynist, I just talk like one" as one of you far right incel victims put "predator" (which I assume to be "prey") into play I basically don't even have to counter anymore cause you beat yourselves. prey is an awesome movie. that's not coming from me but from metacritic(for example) where it currently holds a score of 71(!) this shows you manage to gather successfully on your basically only stage: YT comment sections but that's it, you're a minority whose opinions and complains are straight up ignored (or destroyed ♥Zack Snyder♥) by the content creators end executives. I mean look at how many videos your poster child crew ala geeks and gamers, nerdrotic, the quartering or whatever their names uploaded here about: "kathleen kennedy being replaced" - she's basically replaced on a daily base. reality moves on - without you.
@Pancasilaist8752
@Pancasilaist8752 2 жыл бұрын
@@CinceTheDay why do you think people who don't like rings of power are racists, misogynists,And don't believe in global warming? Does it have anything to do with the ring of power assessment?
@CinceTheDay
@CinceTheDay 2 жыл бұрын
​@@kueapel911 congrats, another hand played flawlessly by you (against yourself unfortunatly) now everybody knows what it means when you're "sure" of something. checking out that I'm not a bot would've taken like 10 seconds -instead you did put down 112 words of exactly the BS you guys just can't resist. just keep going, stage is yours.
@merrillbeck1575
@merrillbeck1575 2 жыл бұрын
Only one of the best ad transitions that I’ve ever seen
@behnu
@behnu 2 жыл бұрын
If Galadriel showed her feet to someone in order for information about Sauron maybe the show would be as good as House of the Dragon
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 2 жыл бұрын
😤🤤 imagine how they smell
@ArosNacht
@ArosNacht 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@Severn19th
@Severn19th 2 жыл бұрын
💀💀
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 жыл бұрын
That would save the entire thing
@thymn4384
@thymn4384 2 жыл бұрын
My guy kills, for some feet, he down bad fr
@ducphamminh4691
@ducphamminh4691 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, you have one of the smoothest transition to product advertisement ever.
@spoiler321
@spoiler321 2 жыл бұрын
"He needs Elvis healing. That means they have to go see Arwen's dad who is Steven Tyler" A quote from the writer's room.
@Krusesensei
@Krusesensei 2 жыл бұрын
uhhm - why is he the only one who needs elven healing?
@manoz6194
@manoz6194 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis healing lol
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 2 жыл бұрын
"YEAH YEAH, two for the elf money!"
@Gwynsladle
@Gwynsladle 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis Presley confirmed irl Elven
@manoz6194
@manoz6194 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gwynsladle That must be why people still say that he lives!
@bindair_dundat
@bindair_dundat 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope HotD can use the dragons during the dance of dragons without overshadowing the human element. Because as pretty as they are, it's the human dialogues and interactions where that show really shines.
@user-mj4ym7om5n
@user-mj4ym7om5n 2 жыл бұрын
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@Medaumplay3
@Medaumplay3 2 жыл бұрын
Well, now that we have the bigger picture, that bezos' show got progressively worse, and House got progressively better, we can confirm much of what's been said here. The reason for House's success is not exactly the fantasy elements, it's the characters and the amazing story. One of their most incredible series is just king viserys walking to a throne, because of how invested we are in the characters. There were no dragons in that scene. P.S.: House is pretty good so far. It's game of thrones, so we kinda have to wait and see how it ends before we go around calling it the GOAT
@Tyler_W
@Tyler_W 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, so long as they maintain writing quality and don't needlessly change too much of the story beyond recognition, this should actually end well because it's based on a complete story, unlike Game of Thrones. The writers aren't working with a handful of broadstrokes notes for 3-4 seasons
@paulsoldner9500
@paulsoldner9500 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tyler_W One problem with that myth is that they only "ran out" of book content in season 6-7 (timeline dependent). And the reason for this was actually cutting out huge swaths of content and rushing stories and relying on fanservice and fanfiction.
@michiel1162
@michiel1162 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tyler_W it's well known D&D got tired of Game of Thrones and wanted to do other stuff (their little star wars movie) but they didn't want anyone else walking away with the honour of finishing the series so they finished it themselves in a big rush. Ironic enough they didn't have any job in Hollywood since.
@paulsoldner9500
@paulsoldner9500 2 жыл бұрын
@@michiel1162 Yup! That's correct! They killed their golden goose and now have nothing.
@Medaumplay3
@Medaumplay3 2 жыл бұрын
@gg ddfccc i don't feel like we're both watching the same show
@BBCEmily
@BBCEmily 2 жыл бұрын
That ad transition was the SMOOTHEST I have ever seen...
@YouCantDeleteDenzelL
@YouCantDeleteDenzelL 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that the season finale accidentally implies that basically nothing bad would have happened if Galadriel had actually ACTED when shit hit the fan rather than just yelling at everyone to shut up because she's the boss.
@othertalk3313
@othertalk3313 2 жыл бұрын
Like you said, that has to be an accident. Galadriel is flawless, after all, so we must assume that some rando guy did something or other off-screen to make it appear as if she did something wrong. (Watch that become a real plot point in episode 1 of season 2 after the writers realize what they did to Strong Woman...)
@marlonyo
@marlonyo 2 жыл бұрын
it is actually imply that had she not been a crazy bich and either gone to valinor or at least not jump in the middle of the ocean sauron would had been eaten by a fish and die.
@ReinierSandtke
@ReinierSandtke 2 жыл бұрын
What are you even talking about? Acted on what? Yelling at who? Did you even watch the season finale?
@dolomaticus1180
@dolomaticus1180 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReinierSandtke He means when Guyladriel figured out Halbrand is Sauron, but does NOTHING to alert the other Elves. They are going the whole sexual attraction route between the two...Which is done better by Daytime Soaps and Telenovellas.
@danielschoch4881
@danielschoch4881 2 жыл бұрын
@@othertalk3313 They make sauron hypnotizing her to encourage him becoming king of the Southlands.
@blckspice5167
@blckspice5167 2 жыл бұрын
Your sponsor section was so smooth, I felt obligated to watch it. Well done!
@DragonsDream
@DragonsDream 2 жыл бұрын
HotD simply has more heart & passion poured into its dialogue & story writing than RoP.
@BigGahmBoss
@BigGahmBoss 2 жыл бұрын
Still the best transition into ad reads on KZbin. Bar none
@JudgementalGoat
@JudgementalGoat 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting this from you and you didn't disappoint my friend. You explained it plainly, Amazon wasted a shit ton of money on the most incompetent creative team ever, while HBO did so much more with half their resources budget wise.
@akuhappy3246
@akuhappy3246 2 жыл бұрын
Ego and stupidity lies there
@KineticCode
@KineticCode 2 жыл бұрын
@@bkg5494 Rings of power is rlly bad ngl. Although after i started watching it to find all of the shitty writing easter eggs, the show got much better. i dont think thats what amazon was going for.
@lordseaworth6055
@lordseaworth6055 2 жыл бұрын
They both ruined their shows, so they both sucked. Shame
@Ravakeksis
@Ravakeksis 2 жыл бұрын
Calling it a "creative" team is quite generous of you. Problem is they didnt hire writers but activists
@del5221
@del5221 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, something I noticed is that Filmento was able to explain the story of HOTD without explaining all the fantasy elements (man, he didn't even explain what dragons have to do with the story). Whereas in RoP he was forced to explain a lot of fantasy background to tell what the story is about. I don't know if HOTD could integrate the fantasy elements a little more into its story and not just leave it as a background (and if that is better or not), but it definitely shows the priorities of the show.
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 2 жыл бұрын
GRRM's stories are anthropocentric. If you understand people, you understand why GRRM's characters do what they do. The fantasy elements are mostly of interest in how they alter human behavior. HOTD focuses heavily on the Targaryen family tree, whose structure is heavily influenced by fantasy elements. The power to control dragons is the reason for their godlike status and rule, but it is dangerous if it turns against itself (dragon riders have way too much power and this has a destabilizing effect). Incestuous marriages are as much to keep dragon power united as to keep a pure Valyrian bloodline. The first half of the season is devoted to most sane individuals (e.g. Lyonel Strong) trying to reunite Jahaerys' legitimate descendants through marriage (The Velaryons are descended from the first son Aemon, while Rhaenyra is descended from Baelon and Daella), but these efforts lead to general unhappiness (characters are not compatible with these rational requirements) and are thwarted when Viserys makes a hightower branch with a competing claim. In contrast to this careful interplay between human and fantasy elements, we have ROP which is devoid of humanity and has lore that isn't really canon.
@neeee.21
@neeee.21 2 жыл бұрын
Each moment portrayed in HotD is impactful. Any actions taken by the characters have consequences later in the show. And the story becomes progressively better and more engaging with each episode. The fantasy material is like a cherry on top but the main point of the story is still very human. Both had lead female protagonist yet Rop felt like a washed out version of female empowering show in contrast to HotD where they showed both the fmc's strengths and struggles. Rop should have invested more in the writing department rather than cgi.
@adamchoquette1937
@adamchoquette1937 2 жыл бұрын
RoP wants you to relate Gal, but in a "why isn't anyone listening to her?" kinda way. Gilgalad and all the other elves just don't want to believe despite the fact she did discover something. She (Gal) doesn't help her case, because she can only be snarky and stubborn. Any opposition to her plan get a scornful look from her and attempts to force you to see her way. There is no room for others to have an opinion; you either agree or are an idiot.
@munken7673
@munken7673 2 жыл бұрын
Except when Cole killed that guy at the wedding
@Nooom91
@Nooom91 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamchoquette1937 and the issue is RoP doesn't even portray this as a character flaw for Galadriel. She acts in the dumbest, least diplomatic manner but we're supposed to feel like it's all warranted because she's right about Sauron and everyone is just prejudiced against elves. If she was confronted about her behavior, it could be made into a character development arc. Like rebellious teenager turns into strong leader when she learns to be less arrogant. Why not? Though she's supposed to be already hundreds of years old and a commander of armies, while being incapable of any diplomacy or leadership...
@shreksmeatballs9435
@shreksmeatballs9435 2 жыл бұрын
I freaking love the female protagonists of HotD. Unlike your generic boring feminist garbage, they've made EVERY character grey and morally ambiguous. You root for people but are reminded of their faults. You loathe people but then you are reminded of their well-doings. Both Alicent and Rhaenyra have positive and negative aspects to their personality. As the video said, they're more human than fantasy, and I freaking love that.
@One.Zero.One101
@One.Zero.One101 2 жыл бұрын
So many movies/shows have been ruined by the obsession with MYSTERY BOXES. If you want the audience to follow the story, you need to reveal the character motivations. You need to show the step by step progress towards their goal. The problem is I didn't know the trench was gonna be used to explode the volcano. So all that time spent building it, I wasn't following anything. I didn't know what it was for, who was building it, and why they're building it. That's a sure way to bore the audience.
@iammaybeasliceofpie4674
@iammaybeasliceofpie4674 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only sponsor message I’ve ever given a like
@fahimalvi9521
@fahimalvi9521 2 жыл бұрын
House of Dragon was made by people who genuinely loves the lore and took advice from the main author himself. Meanwhile Rings Of Power is made by people who don’t even know the characters they are working on or the lore. And let’s not even get into it’s dialogues. You can spend as much money as possible but it won’t make the mediocre writing better.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 жыл бұрын
Also, George R.R Martin is one the writers and the producer of the show, they have more advantage on that. Rings of Power is made by Woke "Activists" who knows nothing about Tolkien and thinking they're Shakesperean but at the same time they write it with their feelings.
@346ego
@346ego 2 жыл бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146 how are they « woke activists »? (That’s a real question btw I haven’t seen ROP so I’m genuinely curious as to why)
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 жыл бұрын
@@346ego Just look at the casts of ROP dude. Also, one of the actress who played the Dwarf Queen really push too much of the diversity and she seems unlikable in real life.
@jacquesdaniels2435
@jacquesdaniels2435 2 жыл бұрын
@@346ego watch their interviews..lol... activists producers plus actors
@lordseaworth6055
@lordseaworth6055 2 жыл бұрын
Is this some wishfull thinking? Made by people who genuinely loves the lore? then why they they mess it up and why was it so bad? Makes no sense.
@SpudIllusionPictures
@SpudIllusionPictures 2 жыл бұрын
The use of George Brun's Robin Hood music at 3:10 made me smile thank you
@afroahmed3989
@afroahmed3989 2 жыл бұрын
i like how smoothly you mix the context of the video with the sponsor message that every time it goes over my head and i take it as the actual video analysis, you're the GOAT for real
@user-mj4ym7om5n
@user-mj4ym7om5n 2 жыл бұрын
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@hootsifer-darling
@hootsifer-darling 2 жыл бұрын
Okay that was a great transition into the sponsorship
@maplebob23
@maplebob23 2 жыл бұрын
I love when Gladriel goes into the phone booth and comes out as Clark Kent!
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 жыл бұрын
I may dislike RoP as a whole but the Clark Kent scene was masterful
@CinceTheDay
@CinceTheDay 2 жыл бұрын
funny! almost.
@0That_Guy0
@0That_Guy0 2 жыл бұрын
12:49 I didn't expect flashbacks to "Your Favorite Martian". I love all the little memes and older references hidden throughout your videos!
@baumbart7560
@baumbart7560 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you could make the less personal approach work, as long as you actually take the time to make your audience invested in the world instead, which RoP failed to do. For example: why would we care about Valinor? As RoP portrayed it, Valinor just seemed like a normal place with some nice trees. I mean, introducing it with a scene about bullying, didn't exactly make it feel like paradise. And yet it's the only scene we got about daily live in what is supposed to be like heaven for the elves. It makes the destruction of the trees as well as Galadriel's choice to not go back so much less impactfull. They did try to make you care about Harfoot society though, which might have been nice, if they didn't undermine all of the "hearts bigger than our feet" stuff with unnecessary cruelty, every time the plot demanded it. You want to help this confused old man, you found alone in the forest? Well, how about we doom your entire family to certain death instead? Very big hearts indeed... They also tried a bit with Numenor, which I actually think they did a good job with in the third episode. Then came the "elves are taking our jobs" speech and it all went downhill from there. Just pretty disappointing over all.
@bloodyneptune
@bloodyneptune 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, every time the Harfoots said something like "nobody gets left behind" I was thinking...you guys _regularly_ leave people to die because you're wildly superstitious
@benjaminaltube8731
@benjaminaltube8731 2 жыл бұрын
It's the "fiction has to reflect the society we live in today" trope that kinda doesn't work for Tolkien's work. I guess if you confronted a RoP about the harfoots, they would say "yes because that exposes the hipocrisy of tradition "
@jamesmcd6929
@jamesmcd6929 2 жыл бұрын
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@dantefromdevilmaycry9857
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminaltube8731 They're trying the allegory approach which as we all know Tolkien hates and he quite possibly designed his World to be unapproachable in that angle, although doing so could theoretically work it would need knowledge and effort put into it.
@DaChonkIsHere
@DaChonkIsHere 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the show yet and so idk what the "elves are taking our jobs" speech is about but it sounds hilarious
@samueltitone5683
@samueltitone5683 2 жыл бұрын
More than any other genre, I believe fantasy can suffer from excessive worldbuilding. Some writers become so obsessed with the world they created that the world stops telling the story and the story starts telling the world. This appears to be the chief trap RoP fell into that Hot D avoided. Granted, this problem usually applies to high schoolers cranking out their first Wheel of Time ripoff, not billion dollar TV shows, but that’s neither here nor there.
@AlirioAguero2
@AlirioAguero2 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, there is a fine line between an overdone and an underdeveloped worldbuilding in fantasy, and the author needs to know where that line is. Show too little, and the characters will seem to float within an empty world, only interacting with characters and objects that are somehow crucial to the plot. There will be no intrigue to hook the audience to find out more about this world. On the other hand, when the plot is crammed with too much information and too much sub-plots, one will get confused and give-up on investing into that world.
@Hyperversum3
@Hyperversum3 2 жыл бұрын
The absurdity is that they had all the job done for them. You know, being based on Tolkien's work. The guy who created languages? The guy who has a fucking chronology long several thousands years? Yeah, that guy.
@Dravianpn02
@Dravianpn02 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree. They had everything they couldve asked for. They couldn't overwrite because they had enough for new and lore consistent material to not do what you explained here. That's how bad they are. They had months and months and warning after warning and book after book with interview after interview and they STILL lied and fucked it up. My 7 year old genuinely writes better than they do.
@zawarudo1041
@zawarudo1041 Жыл бұрын
this is bad assessment, because you had tolkiens work and Jackson's original trilogy, the only thing you had to do is to NOT INCLUDE TOXIC SOCIAL IDEOLOGIES, and apparently it was still too much for amazon's "powerful" directors
@AceHufflepuff
@AceHufflepuff 2 жыл бұрын
Having seen both shows up to the most recent episodes here's my quick analysis. Rings of Power is more focused on the SPECTACLE. House of the Dragon is more focused on the STORY. It's a family drama that just so happens to take place in Westeros, and just so happens to have dragons, which is the spectacle. The show doesn't rely on the spectacle as a crutch. And for some people spectacle is enough. And for others, they're more invested in the story. That's fine if you're in one camp, or in the other, or both for that matter. And it's also fine if you don't like one, or the other, or dislike both shows.
@3KidsStackedUnderATrenchcoat
@3KidsStackedUnderATrenchcoat 2 жыл бұрын
While that is true for season one, it won't stay that way, the dance of dragons will really focus more on the fantasy side of the story. (Family will still bw the strong theme but not the only one)
@jamesmalik3355
@jamesmalik3355 2 жыл бұрын
rings of power has the same problem Foundation had. all spectacle but didn't focus on the core story
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 жыл бұрын
@@3KidsStackedUnderATrenchcoat you can't know that cuz you haven't seen it, regardless of whether you've read the books (since they can make changes)
@btchiaintkidding7837
@btchiaintkidding7837 2 жыл бұрын
RoP's problem is tgey have zero focus on tolkien and his fantasy world but all the focus on blaming fans and modern world politics
@AceHufflepuff
@AceHufflepuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@3KidsStackedUnderATrenchcoat Not really. The Dance of Dragons will have more and more dragonfights, but the heart of the story, is that the civil war of the Targaryens, could've ended without too much bloodshed. Aegon didn't even want the throne. Rhaenyra wanted it over the moment one of her sons died when Aemond murdered him on the way back from Storm's End. It was the people around them that kept the war going. It's still a family drama that happens to be in a fantasy world.
@cubencis
@cubencis 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I love you for cutting in Norm. I’m a huge fan. Take all my thumbs till the end of time
@RespectTheSourceMaterial
@RespectTheSourceMaterial 2 жыл бұрын
In ROP they literally created mount doom and three rings of power in a week and a half. I kid you not. Meanwhile we spent an entire season with the harfoots where nothing happens and we had to endure the romance between angsty immature (1000 year old) Galadriel and Sauron. I never thought a GRRM adaptation would be superior to a Tolkien one( especially since rop costs 60 MILLION per episode meanwhile HOTD cost less than 20 million per episode) but here we are. What a strange world. At least i won't have to hear about this show for 2.5-3 years (the showrunners said 2 years THE EARLIEST).
@Graavigala85
@Graavigala85 2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget: the most skilled elven smith does not know how to mix metals
@RespectTheSourceMaterial
@RespectTheSourceMaterial 2 жыл бұрын
@@Graavigala85 LMAO imagine a mortal (everyone thought halbrand was a human don't start your mental gymnastics people) going to an immortal elven smith whose skills are basically second to none and his status is godlike and saying "have you though of mixing these metals?". I imagine celebrimbor would look at him like a father looks his 4 year old and laugh.
@westrim
@westrim 2 жыл бұрын
@@Graavigala85 There's little they can do to allay the alloy stupidity.
@GimbleOnDew
@GimbleOnDew 2 жыл бұрын
RoP is not a Tolkien work.
@jaroslavb.korinek7285
@jaroslavb.korinek7285 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever the ROP is, it's not so much a Tolkien adaptation, rather a very loosely based fanfiction. With such serious deviations from the canon it ceased to be an adaptation in about 20th minute of episode 1.
@Supernaught00
@Supernaught00 2 жыл бұрын
Sauron be makin' them GOLDEN RANGZZZ, doh!
@DisasterArtist1997
@DisasterArtist1997 2 жыл бұрын
HBO > Amazon Author involved > Author Dead Good Writers > Bad Writers Expierienced Showrunners > inexpierienced Showrunners Established Actors > unknown Actors Good Dialoge > Bad Dialoge Production Value with focus on Detail and variety > Production Value with focus on pretty Landscapes and polished, clean Colors feels like the World and Franchise it is presenting > feels like every other fantasy adaptation you have ever seen
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 2 жыл бұрын
Two weeks later and the most replayed portion is the commercial. Legitimately well done! {g}
@mertbince6582
@mertbince6582 2 жыл бұрын
House of the dragon is on a different league compared to rings of power. Fucking incredible visuals and acting looking forward to the season finale
@DarthMalgusSith_Lord
@DarthMalgusSith_Lord 2 жыл бұрын
oof! bring your tissue bro, Lucerys Velaryon gonna died
@elihinata1
@elihinata1 2 жыл бұрын
That ad transition was so clean xD
@aakashsancheti9614
@aakashsancheti9614 2 жыл бұрын
He should make a new channel, Tvmento
@dannypatrick9361
@dannypatrick9361 2 жыл бұрын
LOVELY use of a 3rd Strike reference my friend.
@MrNH718
@MrNH718 2 жыл бұрын
A dying old man slowly walking down a hallway in HOTD was more epic than anything in ROP.
@reannoire4330
@reannoire4330 2 жыл бұрын
This One V One section between these shows are great, especially for a pilot versus pilot episode. I hope to see a full depth Anatomy of a Failure section for the Rings of Power's Season 1, because in reality, it's a typical downgrade fan fiction of the Tolkien lore. Otherwise, this is a great One v One video of the day.
@agraciotti
@agraciotti 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, House of the Dragon has been fantastic all season. Terrific cast and writing. Episode 8 was a masterclass of television show. I'd go as far as to say it was better than any episode of GOT.
@OktayKus1993
@OktayKus1993 2 жыл бұрын
Mindless boring Television with ridiculess senseless Archs. The Drama of the narative feels forced a dont start with the freak who jerks of on the queen.. dont lower your entertainment Standards just to see dragons
@stannisbaratheontheonetrue6167
@stannisbaratheontheonetrue6167 2 жыл бұрын
got early seasons was peak of what webseries could be
@Kongsi-D
@Kongsi-D 2 жыл бұрын
the sponsor ads segue is legendary
@jerekeya9910
@jerekeya9910 2 жыл бұрын
Filmento finally dabbling in the TV show universe. My time has come and I can finally rest in peace. You guys must continue your journey without me.
@thisiscoral
@thisiscoral 2 жыл бұрын
gotta say, big points to Filmento for his finesse in adding his ads so smoothly into his video's flow. Something so rarely done right
@hblaub
@hblaub 2 жыл бұрын
My main difference: In HOD, I fear for the characters, for their life. In POR, I want them all to die, mostly brutally.
@zacharyvandyke1717
@zacharyvandyke1717 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the Norm Macdonald interview reference 👌 RIP
@Black-Re4per
@Black-Re4per 2 жыл бұрын
That very scene, where Galadriel was laughing while riding on her Horse, is still haunting me every night. 😱😱
@daoberik
@daoberik 2 жыл бұрын
Filmento, you make the best sponsorship integration on youtube.
@edsherwood2173
@edsherwood2173 2 жыл бұрын
House of the dragon was awesome I wish there where more movies like that, the dragon scenes gave me goosebumps. Shame there’s nothing else out there like it
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 2 жыл бұрын
you HAD to bring up the first episode of Westworld UGHHHH that first season was pure magic
@AnnoyingMoose
@AnnoyingMoose 2 жыл бұрын
Filmento deserves to ascend the Iron Throne of KZbin because he is the King of Seamlessly Inserting Sponsorships Into The Middle of His Videos!
@danielsweeney8164
@danielsweeney8164 2 жыл бұрын
did it again, slid that commercial in so smooth dam you
@MrPinguinzz
@MrPinguinzz 2 жыл бұрын
Rings of Power feels like an extended version of the "I don't like Sand" scene
@user-mj4ym7om5n
@user-mj4ym7om5n 2 жыл бұрын
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@lofix7362
@lofix7362 2 жыл бұрын
Ommmmg the doin yo mom Ray William Johnson throw back had me in tears! 😂🤣
@RichardRagan
@RichardRagan 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. I think basically you're making a distinction that I've never heard of before, so it's an original thought, that Rings of Power is architected to involve master plot using the characters as pawns on a chess board. On the other side, House of Dragon is written to be immersive where you can actually feel the character's motivations and anticipate what's going to happen next based on standard social interaction. Well done.
@SNoodleJuJu
@SNoodleJuJu 2 жыл бұрын
This dude crafted the most genius way to continue the video while doing the ad- “It wasn’t necessary for you to know that for the video to work.”
@randyjax09
@randyjax09 2 жыл бұрын
That guy’s reaction to the Oberyn scene has me laughing my ass off. 🤣🤣🤣
@user-mj4ym7om5n
@user-mj4ym7om5n 2 жыл бұрын
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@tariizm1500
@tariizm1500 Жыл бұрын
i think he is KSI
@Goldenleyend
@Goldenleyend 2 жыл бұрын
Golden Norm clip, RIP 🙏
@darthdaenerys545
@darthdaenerys545 2 жыл бұрын
the Serving girl has more emotion than the Galadriel of the whole season
@dsmvfl363
@dsmvfl363 2 жыл бұрын
that ridge wallet transition was slick
@Centery_Clips
@Centery_Clips 2 жыл бұрын
I love filmento. Even he can find clever ways to introduce something like a sponsor and make it feel natural
@majorknight859
@majorknight859 Жыл бұрын
IKR. In all honesty, I hate the sponsorship bits even when they're done by expert comedians so I usually skip them or fast forward if they're in the middle In Filmento's case, I don't think I ever fast forwarded anything given how he fits them Soo naturally with whatever he was talking about
@brialapoint2608
@brialapoint2608 Жыл бұрын
Rings of power lost out when they decided that cool visuals would be better than a good dialogue and comprehensive storytelling
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra's character threat in House of The Dragon: Pressured being the firstborn child of King Viserys and get chosen to be his heir and has to face that her best friend becomes her step mom and showing her rebel side to break the rules since teenager. Galadriel's character threat in Rings of Power: I'M An AnGRy WoMaN! LOok aT ME!
@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405
@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 2 жыл бұрын
Almost like that’s the entire point🤷🏾. It’s understandable that Tolkien purists are upset with her characterisation, but for general audiences who are not heavily invested in the books, it’s an interesting choice and the beginning of a character arc that may payoff once she learns to set aside her pride and need to be in control.👍🏾
@charlesmcgill2974
@charlesmcgill2974 2 жыл бұрын
@@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 she’s a Mary Sue lmao all men depicted in the show are evil or incompetent men who know their place as the followers of the main women
@samcochran8203
@samcochran8203 2 жыл бұрын
@@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 except that's something you set up a human character to do with their development, galadriel is a fucking elf, tolkien made elves to literally be an ethereal sort of being, with some of the best of them still failing to corruption, greed, pride, arrogance hell, even murder sometimss, but the focus was never or ever supposed to be on their failings, but rather how they persevered, resisted, and utterly fought back against the ultimate source and one responsible for sowing, fermenting, and breeding their evils, their failings and the ruination of their sacred blessed home and them as a people The elves and the elven characters Tolkien focused on at the point we see them in the lord of the rings, hell, even by the second age, they had had so many centuries if not thousands of years to work on the failings that landed them all on the shores of Middle earth in the first place, pride and paranoia for lack of control are some of the last things we should be seeing as the main focus of the character in how we the audience views their struggles
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын
Well, I'm not familiar with LOTR books and lore but the way Galadriel's "rebel" in the show is so cringe to me. At least Rhaenyra showed how she rebels like a regular teenager since her younger version was a teenager but the way Galadriel rebels is totally cringe. She acts like knows-it-all, bossy, and think she can do better than any men and she's supposed to be a grown ass woman, how embarrasing. Then, I found that the writers of ROP have no idea about Tolkien in generals while HOTD have George R.R Martin as head writers so, they have more advantages.
@shibernyan2009
@shibernyan2009 2 жыл бұрын
Genius implementation of the sponsor🤣
@olympusthedarkone83
@olympusthedarkone83 2 жыл бұрын
Even after a masterpiece video like this, that flawlessly discusses why RoP doesn’t have the basic requirements for a compelling Pilot episode and people will still find a way to defend the show
@Pancasilaist8752
@Pancasilaist8752 2 жыл бұрын
It's like when someone doesn't like food, customers are blamed and called sexist and called not like the food because it was made by a black female chef.
@ksrbot
@ksrbot 2 жыл бұрын
the way you plugged ridge
@coachken6130
@coachken6130 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Filmento. I'm not a big book reader, so fantasy doesn't work on me. But I am really enjoying HOTD. All this praise for ROP special effects makes it feel like 'shiny things' are all it takes for a show to be considered 'good'. I need more than just special effects. I need a good story. And HOTD is giving us a good one
@thepoeticdork
@thepoeticdork 2 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing way to transition into a sponsor!!! Haha
@flamingburitto
@flamingburitto 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the reason for me is very simple. (This took effort to write so pls read) One show pays respect to the source material and the fans. Takes criticism in a healthy way. Doesn't have any personal or political agenda which changes entire characteristics of characters. And builds upon what came before. The other "fixes" the source material by forcefully putting in agendas that don't belong. Alters characters to suit their story (Galadriel is the only competent warrior in the whole show, every other "male" character is either an idiot or incompetent buffoon). It also attacks any criticism by calling it racist, sexist, etc. Heavily motivated by political agendas to the point it sacrifices story, character and immersion. And lastly, destroys what came before it. Lets take a look at two things that ROP tried hard but failed miserbly. *Representation* Lets take a simple example shall we? *Colored people* (Because I'm colored myself). House of dragons does representation according to the source material, it doesn't just magically race swap characters or anything of the kind, there's still good representation there done right. ROP however changed skin colors of already established race that doesn't make sense lore wise, location wise or story wise. Because ROP is a prequel with black elves and black dwarves, are you suggesting that before the peter jackson movies there was a genocide where only black elves and dwarves were killed??? Because in those movies there are only white dwarves and elves. *Women empowerment* Theres also another angle of *"feminism and women empowerment"* which again, house of dragons does right. It doesn't make men suddenly incompetent to show the strength of their female characters. However in ROP male characters are made to be utter buffoons and incompetent idiots who cant even swing a sword. Also it doesn't make sense cuz she wasn't established as this warrior woman character all in the movies that came before. If you have to make men incompetent to make your female characters shine, all you're doing is saying that your female characters will be incompetent around competent male characters.
@walterude6323
@walterude6323 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually a brilliant take, especially with the black dwarves and how the show being a prequel rubbishes that. And my god, for all the empowerment they sought to make Galadriel stand for, all they ended up with was a character who's just so annoying, you just want Sauron to take her out.
@samueltitone5683
@samueltitone5683 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I’m not the only one who was off put by the unintentionally implied ethnic cleansing of Middle Earth. Diversity is great, but if they wanted to tell a diverse story, they could have and should have explored area outside of Middle Earth. If that wouldn’t be marketable enough, they could have had characters from the eastern lands of Rhûn. A foreigner’s perspective on Middle Earth could have been endlessly fascinating.
@Cherrypi393
@Cherrypi393 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t watch ROP, but HOD did some race swapping and adding a more diverse cast. And to good effect. In the end, it’s all about writing. The race and gender doesn’t matter. You just need to write a good story. ROP problem isn’t race or gender or anything political. If they kept everyone white, what would that have fixed? If they made the main character male, but kept everyone else the same would that have made this a better show? You’re focusing on effects of the bad writing as the source, rather than a symptom.
@nagamata
@nagamata 2 жыл бұрын
Man that bit at 13:48 about people acting like people had me rejoicing. It’s so simple, but so many TV writers just can’t seem to manage it. When characters say, act, and react to things just to make plot points happen-that’s what I call bad writing. 🤝
@mrfreeman2911
@mrfreeman2911 2 жыл бұрын
it takes a good writer. Not many of those exist.
@parshath5819
@parshath5819 2 жыл бұрын
sir I have to say your transition into sponsorships just keep getthing more legendary cause that was the best insert I've ever seen.
@No_name7474
@No_name7474 2 жыл бұрын
Boy filmento is doing series Let's goooooooooooooo
@Flent1c
@Flent1c 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone: The perfect product placement doesnt exist Filmento: Hold my holy beer
@KlonoaFan64
@KlonoaFan64 2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do more TV show analysis in the future! Perhaps a “How Arcane: League of Legends does anime better than High Guardian Spice”? Just an idea. 🙂
@randomuser1093
@randomuser1093 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man I would totally love to see an Arcane analysis video from Filmento
@davisvoelzke8011
@davisvoelzke8011 2 жыл бұрын
No
@gortalla5474
@gortalla5474 2 жыл бұрын
Arcane isn’t an anime though
@Aseruxx
@Aseruxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomuser1093 Same, the show totally crushed everyones expectations and the shows writing is definitelly worth analysing.
@traumer9622
@traumer9622 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe you had me when you set the bar at Pirates ^^
@Sean_B123
@Sean_B123 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t watch this yet, as I haven’t seen either show, but I’m sure it’s a banger nonetheless
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It’s gonna be good
@Filmento
@Filmento 2 жыл бұрын
I only cover the pilot episodes. I haven't seen more myself either.
@Left4Candy
@Left4Candy 2 жыл бұрын
At 10:50 , thought it was Galadriel's actor speaking. Ouch
@jobsmine
@jobsmine 2 жыл бұрын
Also i feel like the biggest problem ROP has is that it doesn’t know who their audience is. They can’t decided whether they’re writing the show for teens or adults.
@user-mj4ym7om5n
@user-mj4ym7om5n 2 жыл бұрын
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@juans8356
@juans8356 2 жыл бұрын
Ring of Power writing was so bad that 90% of the audience knew who Halbrand was after 3 episodes.
@aungtayzarhan7061
@aungtayzarhan7061 2 жыл бұрын
Flimento's now talking about series! That's interesting!
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