A Quick Look At Linux Mint Debian Edition "Faye"

[@emem666]

It's about time for Mint to go full time with Debian.

[@cugansteamid6252]

Huge thanks to the Linux Mint development team ❤❤❤

[@BWGPEI]

They are indeed world-class people and I also love their work.

[@WR3ND]

My 9 year old daughter has been running LMDE 5 on her laptop for a year now. It works well with her drawing tablet in Krita and everything. No issues. It's a great OS.

[@johnnyblack4261]

Going off topic but How does Krita compare to Gimp? Why use krita over gimp, I am just curious to know the differences between the two?

[@WR3ND]

It's more focused on digital hand drawing specifically, less focused on general picture editing.

[@johnnyblack4261]

@@WR3ND Oh so like for touch screens then?

[@WR3ND]

@@johnnyblack4261 Yeah, basically. My daughter uses a drawing tablet and a stylus. The drawing tablet is a secondary monitor to her laptop.

[@davebassi7340]

I switched to LMDE 6 and my libido increased!

[@laletemanolete]

IMO Mint should already be all 100% debian based.

[@BWGPEI]

I would second that idea. I have LMDE version 6 running on the test bed system at this point and it's very fine work indeed.

[@biskitpagla]

hard agree. other distros like pop have separate reasons to be based on ubuntu e.g., getting more up to date packages but mint already chose not to take that route.

[@RedasRedas-n8f]

I really like the DT eye contact we can even see Aliens through, IR1916 R5

[@snebes_sbs]

Ubuntu = Canonical. Canonical = 49% Microsoft. Debian = Freedom.

[@hughnailedit9885]

good thing MINT goes the double path. who says Canonical isn't gonna pull a "REDHAT" on the community...

[@sean7221]

It will happen, writing is on the wall...

[@Jeff_Seely]

Thanks for this video DT. You touched on all the reasons why Linux Mint is so popular with folks. The distro has had a long tradition giving a new user such a great experience and they are better each time they roll out another desktop. Its fit, finish, and functionality is top=shelf. The only thing about Mint is it isn't geared for low end and very mature desktop computers but still runs circles around Windows11 so even this shouldn't be a deal killer. It is functional, easy, and beautiful. These guys are really pros at developing a great experience!

[@AlastairMontgomery-b5l]

Not used Mint in years, might be worth another look with this version.

[@adnanpramudio6109]

I distro hopping and in the end going back installing LMDE few days ago. it feels like home, everything just work in my old computer(with i3 gen 2). Software centre is getting better with UI and flathub / flatpak install choice. If anyone wants to migrate from windows ask me, I'd recommend LMDE as their first linux distro

[@markh.6687]

LMDE = "Linux Mint Doomsday Edition". Historian: "....after Ubuntu was purchased by Microsoft, it became "Linux as a Service", dooming users to monthly subscription fees. But Linux Mint carried on undaunted using Debian as its foundation...."

[@markh.6687]

@@Neferhetep You're welcome. :)

[@Hipno_Amadeus]

@@markh.6687 I am too

[@mjdegrey4843]

LMDE 6 on a used Dell E5440. I put in a 120 GB SSD that I had lying around. It is bloody awesome.

[@Ironpants57]

One thing I do know about debian.. For some reason, installing the vanilla debian takes longer than other distros. Could be the default settings or mirrors. I bet it was just a small bug on Mint's end with the initial install hang.

[@tylerdean980]

If you're using the regular debian iso it's a net installer, you don't get anything on the iso it's all downloaded, that's why they can have so many desktop choices on one iso

[@Ironpants57]

@@tylerdean980 yeah kinda explains it.. Though I still feel that the mirrors are pretty slow out of the box. Maybe I'm also too spoiled with other distros that uses parallel downloads out of the box, lol. After installing the debian os, then you can change the mirrors that fits your needs and speeds. Would be cool if that was checked before the initial install happened. So there might not be a weird hang for 'X' time; 4-8min wait.

[@akashp01]

​@@Ironpants57no youre not spoilt, you may have undiagnosed adhd and lack patience. If you feel a one in two years procedure is slow because it takes 8 mins instead of 6, try meditating. 😂

[@spudhandle]

LMDE really doesn't require much maintenace by Mint to be honest, you could build it yourself off the debian distros and just add mint themes and their software store, wouldn't take more than an hour.... Better actually because you could use debian testing for a much newer kernel (or debian unstable to be on the wild side). My only wish is if they would put an XFCE Mint version out for the 32 bit of LMDE, because only the oldest of old machines are going to run a 32 bit distro and XFCE is lighter than Cinnamon

[@billwx3864]

I have the specs to run Cinnamon but coming from Openbox i prefer that right click option Xfce gives me.

[@stephenwilson0386]

Why not skip the extra setup by installing LMDE, and then update your apt sources to testing like you would in standard Debian? Or would that not work? I've never looked very closely at Mint's repos.

[@rikhardfsoss]

i hope the Mint guys will go LMDE only as fast as possible.

[@JM-tj5qm]

I don´t. I don´t see the point in them doing that, it would hurt compatibility with all the developers that exclusively support Ubuntu

[@rikhardfsoss]

@@JM-tj5qm if a developer only support one distro it's quite dumb, besides, ubuntu for now is debian refurbished.

[@sixdroid]

you install Debian and you have the same

[@rikhardfsoss]

@@sixdroidi use debian sid for a long time, i was not talking about what i use but what would be better for the mint crowd.

[@needsLITHIUM]

I've come to the conclusion that as of late, MX Linux, AntiX, and Sparky Linux are far superior to most Ubuntu based distros. Now that LMDE is coming into it's own and maturing nicely, it can be added to that list.

[@i-love-space390]

One thing I find annoying about just about every OS out there now, is that in dark mode you have to jump through hoops to make the active window have a brighter background color on the upper border to make it stand out from the background windows. It makes it easy to close the wrong window when faced with numerous open windows that all have a black upper border in the frame. And as for FlatPaks or SNAPS .... in this day and age, with exploits showing up every day, I don't think I want a bunch of applications running their own old libraries that might be compromised, when my OS has already patched them. Basically, I would be moving from a world where I only had to wait on the main OS to patch vulnerabilities to a time when I have to worry about how fast EACH APPLICATION patches the libraries included in their SNAPS of Flatpaks. Generally that is a step backward in security. I am glad that a Debian based Linux Mint is available. But unfortunately, if the software center must be a flatpak, and it runs in the background all the time, you are still partially vulnerable. Hopefully though, that application would be patched along with the OS if an exploit is discovered.

[@2u263]

Excellent video, gd work always. You make most distros appear desireable. I play learn & catchup with U DT. I look forward to exploring emacs w/U. I have virt manager on PopOS & a proxmox box to play with, thanks Friend. For stability I prefer Debian & Slackware.

[@merthyr1831]

Doesn't LMDE have non-free repos added by default? They should do for drivers as far as I know.

[@jdebultra]

I just installed that (V5) for a friend on a enterprise class PC I picked up for peanuts. I think this distro is perfect for older windows users. Its very similar GUI and he feels comfortable using it. I doubt I will get any tech calls which is better for me. However, I'll upgrade him to 6 next time we're hanging out. It is rather dated looking but it just works. I personally don't use it, I prefer Slackware and have been dabbling with the new Debian for fun.

[@BitsOfTruth]

I installed the tool "sudo apt install -y mintupgrade" and I had to omit the word "apt" and type "sudo mintupgrade"

[@billwx3864]

Distro shopping once again after the recent demise of ArchLabs. One surprise is that LMDE used significantly less ram (htop), than Endeavour Cinnamon with same hardware and programs. Both, of course, use far more resources than i have become accustomed to with Openbox; but i am liking the look of Cinnamon.

[@jozsefizsak]

Very nice! I'm going to try that out.

[@gmagholder1]

If I am to build a linux distribution - only for dt I would implement something that takes the "strong and complicated password" and make it look like its 20 chars long ^^

[@mahiabir6348]

One of my favorites

[@LenQuerido]

I use both Arch and Linux Mint and LMDE for years. I'm done distrohopping. I started using Linux before Ubuntu 10. Ubuntu 10 was the first serious distro I used on a regular basis. When Mint was introduced I turned from Ubuntu to Mint. I still tried a quite a lot of other distros and I tries BSD. In the end a few Arch distros and a few Debian distros were left. I use them for different purposes and they are on their own SSD on different devices (no dual boot). I've still one device with Windows 11.

[@jz2187]

Another video of Linux installation. Thank you! We don’t have enough of them 😂

[@akashp01]

gotta make money somehow after quitting the day job, life of a linux youtuber

[@bobbyfried7478]

as an avid LMDE fan i hope for more DE editions in the future..not that it matters i use Awesome WM but maybe gnome would be a good choice. or xfce for older machines who knows lets hope ubuntu goes south and we get a debian based LM.

[@danielton9577]

GNOME? Every other mainstream distro is GNOME-first. I don't like it, and I feel like a second-class citizen.

[@bobbyfried7478]

@@danielton9577 i won't use gnome. i tried to like it but it just caused frustration. after using gnome for a week i remember why in 10 years of using Linux i avoided it. prefer WM's these days.

[@monkeysausageclub]

In the morning. I've just put this on my laptop and it works flawlessly. Thankfully I don't have a NVIDIA GPU in my laptop. Seriously considering it on my main rig but that has an NVIDIA GPU and do I really need that hassel when regular Mint works very well indeed. And I agree with what others have said, Mint needs to go 100% Debian.

[@cerescop]

Canonical is veering toward the pay as you go model. Mint is hedging their bets by jumping back towards Debian to keep a free source of their base code available if the worst happens.

[@williams.ritter3010]

love your shirt brother. i appreciate your straight forward style and having the drive to cut through very logically . i have recently gone back to my young adulthood and have been distort hopping again. KDE 6 disrupted my dream desktop, had it set up like gnome and had many more option than the one i was imitating. as all of us know in linux, there are frequently many changes that cause us to change,i think i shall finally settle for now to cinnamon gnome.

[@tonywise198]

WELCOME is different DT. No Driver Manager in LMDE.

[@methodinsane]

Which vm platform are you using?

[@RHTORAS]

Will you ever show us Obarun linux ? You say you love arch and wm's...

[@ordinarryalien]

I feel like I've watched this video before. Wait...

[@RHTORAS]

most systemD distros look the same and these DT show us the most

[@atemoc]

@@RHTORAS Nonsense, a distribution having systemd or not basically make no difference when it comes to what's shown on the video.

[@davidr2421]

​@@atemoc Correct. Init system is not related to desktop environment. Arch runs systemD and it doesn't even come with a graphical environment

[@Pedro8k]

Downloaded it twice and tried to i intall it on dell d430 and each time it comes up with an installation error at the end normal linux mint installs ok

[@NYCamper62]

I am dual booting w10 / mint 21.1 was planning to migrate to mint on or before w10 eol. Now, I'm more indecisive than before. Is lmde better, upgrade paths, Wayland etc. F#

[@laurencejohnson4106]

A well presented video!👍👍 I actually prefer the Mate desktop and hopefully that will become available with LMDE..

[@BWGPEI]

I don't know but I've been told, that any distribution can have any desktop. Do I have a clue how? Not so, but I do appreciate any distribution that lets me choose on install. Where I used to work that would have been part of the "installablity" goal.

[@laurencejohnson4106]

@@BWGPEI Some distros do offer that option, but LM., offers each desktop separately.

[@markstevens6406]

I in no way mean to be argumentative, but is there any reason to run LMDE rather than Debian itself?

[@PHDWhom]

For those that prefer Mint and Cinnamon, but would rather not use the Ubuntu base. And while I would have no problem just installing Debian itself, I do not work in any way in the technology sector, I am no coder, or anything of the sort. I am a fairly advanced Linux user, but I would just prefer to install a system quickly and Mint with Cinnamon happens to scratch the itch for me, and they just keep making it better. I plan on installing LMDE on a 2015 Macbook Pro. I've already booted to a usb drive to check it out, and I am impressed. Especially with the fact that because of the Debian base, there is easy installation of certain proprietary drivers, like wifi, that I would not get otherwise.

[@xs732]

@@PHDWhom Couldn't you install macOS Sonoma or any version of macOS with OpenCore Legacy Patcher?

[@PHDWhom]

@@xs732 I suppose I could, but I don't know if I just want to move to Linux Mint anyway. I do know about it, and the caveats, and I'm curious.

[@danielton9577]

Yes. I've used all of these. Debian is great if you want to run a server or tinker around with testing or unstable, but it's a bit rough around the edges as a desktop OS due to their stance on software licensing and older versions of software in stable. LMDE is basically an "it just works" edition of Debian with an up to date Cinnamon desktop, Firefox, and Flatpak set up out of the box, with an option to install codecs afterward.

[@markstevens6406]

Sounds like it might be worth a try... thank you for the explanation!@@danielton9577

[@richardlyd7450]

Where was the English (uk) in the setup menu???😂

[@jesse7631]

Victoria is from the latest version of Linux Mint 21.2 bro

[@jaxxarmstrong]

DT, I realize you're running a VM, but the speed of launching applications and installing packages by the installer seems quite slow. If you don't mind, what CPU/storage combo are you using on your VM host, please? Just curious.

[@Moshenokoji]

I saw in an earlier video he's using a first gen thread ripper but not sure of the storage solution.

[@warhawk_yt]

Last time I heard he was using a first gen thread ripper but that was a few years ago so don’t know if he has upgraded since then. Have no idea on storage.

[@yakadoodledongywongy8718]

Installed it loving it but can't install dvdstyler

[@RixtronixLAB]

Nice info, thanks :)

[@kazzxtrismus]

locks up on my R9 and radeon 6800.......no errors no nuthin....format and find something else

[@Marko-il6gx]

How to install latest kernel on LMDE ?

[@atsz.]

LMDE is based on Debian Stable, if you want something more bleeding edge, LMDE isn't for you.

[@mocha2-i6b]

I installed this distro on my main box and it is fast. I inserted an ssd onto my old dv7 hp laptop and if became a fast modern machine.

[@user-yo9dd6mk1l]

i use mint21.2 in a very 2012 laptop (it's working, I won't change). I think may be try debian 12 with cinnamon, but lmde is what I want, idk. lmde is stable to use? should I divorce mint and go to debian as my new lover?

[@itsdokko2990]

Debian 12 is quite a sweet foundation imo, i've been using plain debian 12 with kde for around a month, i have had no minor nor major issues whatsoever. Might not be the bleediest of edges, but i love coming from work and not having to worry about something breaking suddenly. I'd say take the plunge, if you dont have extremely new hardware, it's gonna be sweet

[@oraz.]

Mint Cinnamon is still better looking than Debian bookworm Cinnamon imo.

[@user-yo9dd6mk1l]

@@itsdokko2990 tks for ur reply. I try debian 12 with cinnamon, but in a VM. that's why i think i can use it (besides the gnome boxes simplify the installation process and i don't need to install 3rd party drivers)

[@motoryzen]

5:15 to 5:28 Im unsure of this might be an ussue in LMDE installment...but in Linux Mint... If you are using a Sata SSD as the Linux mint installation drive connected via a USB to Sata adapter cable..... You may have to select" Continue testing" Instead of reboot or restart PC now. I say this because there is a chance you might not get the black screen. Prompt that tells you to quote. Remove installation media and press. Enter to restart PC quote message. And then you're stuck guessing. When is the precise right point to disconnect the drive? As the system has powered off in the middle of the reboot process. Why could this present a small problem? Simple. If you remove the drive to Early and You Try to Boot from the drive, you installed the operating system into, you might get a weird message stating that it cannot boot. And something about no beautiful device found or some other weird message. If you unplug it to light, then you will simply boot back into the live desktop. AK installation drives environment. At least, when selecting continue testing, you can manually power down the computer properly. Either via gooey buttons, mama for the eternal command of ", shut down now,". ;)

[@dustys5512]

It makes more sense for Linux Mint to be based of Debian. Ubuntu is based off Debian. Why not just bypass Ubuntu and keep the chain more pure and make LMDE the default Linux Mint version? I'm using Debian 12 as I'm a little bit more experienced with Linux now. I won't use Ubuntu. Ubuntu seems like a bloated unstable mess.

[@Maniak2000]

No driver manager

[@theLowestPointInMyLife]

I graduated to Arch with Hyprland, im home

[@misterscorpio6340]

If Linux Mint is that unhappy with Canonical then you would think that moving to Debian would happen quicker.

[@JanWillemMoltzer]

I have installed pop os and i never want to go back 😊

[@r.razamhd]

I'm going to move LMDE6

[@thepathnotfound]

Thanks!

[@thesilentgeneration]

Ya, but the problem is with Debian it puts out a new version, 12, but includes ancient Apps. Firefox is version 11 which is about 10 generations behind what is out there today. Meh!

[@steveavecillas1114]

disable sudo and install the new fire fox by using sudo

[@steveavecillas1114]

i mean unable sudo , Here is the link to do I unable sudo and works great I installed netbean, indellij ide ultimate ,

[@Aylych]

Leave testing Resources with Neofetch & Htop

[@toquita3d]

I'd love to use Mint but I absolutely hate how the "X" button is not at the top-most right corner. It's a little off to the inside of the window so you have to freaking aim to hit the X button on most windows. I'd love to have a quick chat with whoever thought of this design idea.

[@PHDWhom]

This can be changed by the user quite easily. Assuming that this is what you're talking about.

[@dm3035]

HELP - LMDE - I NOTICE HAS NO " DRIVERS UPDATER" THE SOUND IS TRASHED WITHOUT HE RIGHT DRIVERS 😔😔Linux Mint ( Ubuntu Version ) DOES HAVE THIS FEATURE - NO PROBLEMS THERE.

[@livingcodex9878]

おはようございます

[@CabbageBloke]

In my personal opinion, Linux Mint is looking rather aesthetically dated.

[@waltz9230]

Always has been.

[@mihairomulus2488]

that's one of the reasons I like it, I dig the look

[@TheDesertMexican]

Same here - I like the look.

[@5Hydroxytryptophan]

This is a feature. I do setup Mint for older people and it works pretty well for them.. unlike Win 10/11.

[@jz2187]

Very dated

[@kennethkhayyam7276]

I think LMDE 6 just a rolling release version of standard Linux mint cinnamon Ubuntu based variant that is a fixed or point release

[@PHDWhom]

Not quite, as this is fully based on the latest Debian release, rather than Ubuntu itself.

[@danielton9577]

It's not based on Ubuntu nor is it a rolling release. It's based on the current release of Debian stable.

[@Ralphunreal]

nice

[@ex0ja]

So the only difference really is just the package manager?

[@ex0ja]

@@lucolesco what's the difference then

[@SpurGetreide54]

@@ex0ja that it is not based on ubuntu

[@SouthFacedWindows]

The green theme in Mint make it look like a Manjaro spin

[@helloimatapir]

Linux Mint has been around longer than Memejaro.

[@SouthFacedWindows]

@@helloimatapir that was not my point. Manjaro has the same motif that’s what I was just pointing out

[@mihairomulus2488]

Mint has always been green though, Manjaro just happened to be green as well

[@betablockrr]

I have to say. I wish Mint would start to focus on updating the GUI I love cinnamon but it is dated now. Arc theme rectifies this a bit but comon Mint give us something new. And fractional scaling is awful!

[@penguin2137]

well, as the GUI update has begun with LM 21.1, the only thing i would change is fully basing the icon theme on Papirus

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

​@@penguin2137Change it to papirus then. I like the default icon theme.

[@MerkDolf]

😄 👍👌...

[@Kawayolnyo]

So, basically, literally only significant/noteworthy difference between Ubuntu Mint and Debian Mint is that by using Debian Mint you're not being cucked with snapshit rootkit malware soaked-in-brine rusted barbwire being forced down your throat/up your ass without any lube applied prior whatsoever. And the only "downside" of LMDE in comparison with Ubuntu Mint, is that stable/well-tested/"big number" LMDE builds come out slower/less often than Ubuntu builds, so LMDE "lags behind" the "le muh everything cutting edge" just by a little tiny-weeny bit, when it comes to packaged drivers, supported hardware, and etc. Got it.

[@BettyHernandez-j2o]

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[@ekbolton2506]

LMDE6 is a nightmare of functions that don't work. these review vids all spend fifteen minutes telling you how to change the color of fonts and themes and NO time telling you what does not work work. This OS has more bugs than dogs have fleas.

[@eugeniogonzato]

Snap is devil

[@isabelgerald4584]

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[@alanifotis7190]

Please no more installation process

[@HikingFeral]

I agree. There are thousands upon thousands of videos showing or explaining the installation. We don't need to see the installation of every single Linux distro tested by every single Linux KZbinr. If there's something new or interesting about an installer, mention it and show it or leave it out.

[@CabbageBloke]

99% of people watch DT's video's already use Linux. I agree, we don't need to see how the installer works.

[@alanifotis7190]

It’s unfortunate because dt is a long time linux user, he is an advanced user He can show us more he could teach us new linux user more For example why one could choose linux mint debian instead of straight up debian with cinnamon desktop environment, why linux mint debian and not mint ubuntu etc

[@lisanalghaib]

He just know do it, the install step

[@Anonymous4045]

I'd bet the idea is pretty much "I always need to install it, might as well make content out of it"

[@BettyHernandez-j2o]

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[@jimw7916]

what a COMPLETE waste of time!

[@zonnodon163]

cry

[@jimw7916]

@@zonnodon163 SUPER waste of time

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

​@@jimw7916Cry more... Why are you watching it then?

[@jimw7916]

@@matyasmarkkovacs8336 to ANNOY people like you.