DIVERS REACT TO OUT OF GAS, NO MASK, AND ENTANGLED IN LINE

In this video we can see students being introduced to several "emergency situations" all at once and we get a glimpse on how they solve them. Out of gas, lost mask, entangled in guideline, loss of buoyancy, gas leaking away. All of them at once!
The question is: is this type of training "realistic"?
Do you think this will help these divers become better cave divers?
Let's talk about it.
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[@samrackham4774]

When woodys eyes are closed as he starts speaking you know wise words are on the way 👌

[@shawnlawson79]

Facts, either that or he got really serious about something. Ironically mostly his fish talking philosophy. Which I totally believe

[@markmcintosh2276]

Omg!!! I literally came here to comment the same thing essentially. How wild yours is the top comment hahah nice

[@Tsumami__]

Scuba Guru.

[@Anonymous38572]

Or he's just spazzing

[@mobbin_dmusic6536]

Facts..

[@BoundingBeast]

Gus: What would you do if your instructor wraps you up in line, maybe rips off your mask, maybe throws rocks on top of you... Me: Tangled in the line, no mask, rocks on top of me? Welp, time to stab myself in the heart.

[@kurt9034]

I had no idea where you were going with this but loved it 🤣

[@scubatravel7846]

😂

[@DIVETALK]

It’s the only sensitive thing to do…according to “facts”

[@timgosling6189]

If you can stab yourself you have a knife, so you can cut line. Think positive!

[@Makenshin]

@@timgosling6189 It's a reference to a previous video where a body was found in a cave and it is presumed by investigators that the person did so in order to not die from drowning.

[@toscadonna]

I’m not a diver, but I was in the Army. We did lots of drills to ensure the soldiers knew what to do when things go wrong. As platoon leader, I always had plans A thru D and found that whatever can go wrong will go wrong, so usually ended up using a combination of a couple of my plans. So I think this sort of dive training is good as long as it’s in a controlled setting and not done with a mean spirited instructor.

[@harbard642]

I get it can be' important for service men and women...but if the recreationals get pissed they are right

[@ItsDeath-fr7wp]

What unit were you at PL?

[@GodLovesYou1624]

@@ItsDeath-fr7wp at pl?

[@ItsDeath-fr7wp]

@@GodLovesYou1624 she stated she was a PL or Platoon Leader

[@buffalobill9793]

Not even American but from a Canadian thanks for your service.

[@NorthwoodsExploration]

As a firearms and outdoor instructor, my job in training is to put my students in stressful and realistic situations. In my pistol and rifle classes, I have my students run 100 - 200 yards before the live fire drills commence. This is to simulate realistic heart rates and breathing patterns under stress. Additionally in my bushcraft and survival training courses, I put my students in realistic situations, (i.e. wet wood fire starting, shelter building, etc.) they could encounter on any hunting or hiking trip. In the end, realistic training is the only effective training. As a recently certified open water diver, (I'm obviously no expert) I see nothing wrong with these techniques. The scenarios seem plausible and the instructor was always right there to provide aid if needed. In the end, this is a great video showing how this instructor put these students in stressful situations while not endangering their lives anymore than was necessary. On a personal note, after deciding to take an open water course this summer I could not get enough of your content. I learned so much about diving before I even got in my confined water class. While in my class, I saw many of the issues you guys discussed and it helped prepare me for these issues ahead of time. It also allowed me to help some of my fellow divers as well. So, thanks for the content. I tell anyone who is considering or in an open water class to check out your videos. Thanks so much Gus and Woody! Keep up the great work!

[@DIVETALK]

Thank you for the great comment!

[@Dharmarenee]

Sounds like you teach a great class.

[@wojciech.dymowski]

This kind of training with exactly this instructor has saved me a big problems underwater already when an unusual problem occurred! I fully recommend. The safe cave diving is mostly about preparing your head not to panic and this is the training about.

[@Coffeeguyzz]

Great observation

[@thedragon7584]

This feels like a brilliant training lesson, honestly. They were put in very real scenarios in what was overall pretty safe conditions with a very calm instructor who was watching them 100% of the time. It's one thing to be in a cave and know theoretically what to do if something goes wrong, it's another to have done it - that's especially true if it's in blackout conditions. People going through this training will likely be a lot calmer and more successful overall if they're ever in a similar situation for real.

[@remcovanhal6336]

Was expecting something crazy like ''that'' rescue course you featured! But this didn't seem to bad. If standards allow for it, I wouldn't mind being put through this. Did not deter me from wanting to get cave certified :)

[@DIVETALK]

Great to hear!

[@SirKenNorth]

I have no issues with anything here. My cave instructor would remove our fins if we allowed them to touch the bottom enough to cause silting. The cave we trained in was not very silty and had reasonable flow to clear things up so I didn't feel like that put us at any significant risk. It was a good way to learn to never be complacent about your feet position.

[@eva2k0]

Never been scuba diving in my life. I love this channel though. Not entirely sure how I found it. I found this channel and Mr. Ballen right around the same time. Either way, content is excellent and you don't need to be a diver to enjoy watching Woody and Gus! Thanks for the great stuff guys. Keep it up. I hope to go diving one day and maybe even cave diving after acquiring the requisite experience and training.

[@ChristelVinot]

same, with divetalk and mr ballen

[@gabriellabernabei5452]

...me too...lol...Mr.Ballen did it!! 😄🥰😊 )0(

[@Dharmarenee]

Mr BAllen.

[@rachelwalker1135]

Me too!!!! :) It came up because I watch Mr. Ballen.

[@RickC_]

You wanted comments so here are mine. 1) Everything that was done was in a controlled open water situation. 2) Proper class size for those drills. 3) Since they were already experienced divers those critical skills might be necessary one day, so best to learn them in that controlled environment. Certainly would not want to see some new diver with

[@Cromwelldk]

The purpose for this excise is to stress the diver, and show them what they are capable to do, when they are stressed out. This is to help them to understand to that you can do allot when you are stressed out. This should only be done in the right environment. Its done to be more confident in the water. Its done to show you how much you can do. The dive is called break down dive. and is done in like a course like GUE fundamentals. This is not from GUE, but maybe ISE og Raid. I have done an excise where there was a stage at a line on a wheel. It was hanging on 9 meter off water. We were a team off 3 divers and had to share air from the one stage, so buddy breath 3 people on one stage. One person had to feel the line, and stop us at 6 and 3 meters. (knots on the line) One had to wheel the reel up while we are doing the ascend. All this had to be done in trim and no mask. This is also to show that you dont think, you react. This is also why you should do the S-drills and keep you skills at level at all times. So you have the muscle memory. This is why I go to the pool once a week and do my skills. Another thing is that allot of agencies won't let you touch the students equiptment, so a left post roll off can't be done on doubles. If the instructor can't turn off the left post on double and make him dononate. Then when he donate his primary his neckless should be turned off. Because it have hit the sealing in the cave. (excise ofc) The student then knows, ok im not out off air, Its my left post that is turned off. and He should reach back and open it.

[@marisabel5500]

I agree! in fact, diving and being under water scare the life out of me, its nothing I ever want to do. But regardless, its extremely fascinating! :D

[@nateroy2961]

I am not a diver. HOWEVER, I have been stuck on EVERY video of yous twos because I appreciate your opinions, critiques, knowledge of your skill and just complete open and honest reactions. A LOT of the things Woody goes into great length about translate into other parts of life that mostly anyone can benefit from if they can understand "the why's." Gus is the young bull who wants to run in and see something, ANYTHING! Woody is the old bull who says let's take our time and appreciate everything. You two are a great team! Thanks guys - Nate Roy☆ P.S. Ed Sorenson is the cowboy who's gonna eat them two cows eventually.

[@yjfuykyil]

I've gone through something sort of similar during a certain school. The idea was to sort of simulate extremely difficult current/surf conditions and more importantly to get us stressed and task-loaded. Basically we got trashed by the cadre and then had to recover. It was part stress inoculation and getting comfortable in difficult conditions, and part learning to conduct emergency procedures while extremely task-loaded. It was incredibly valuable training, and stress inoculation really does work.

[@zelkuta]

I think training like this is every bit as much about handling stress and panic as it is about the technical aspects. From that aspect I think this looks like really good training in that way.

[@seechao]

Please please please consider reacting to the channel "Diving with a Purpose". They used to clean and collect discarded items from lake and river beds and started helping people find missing loved ones after they happened upon a bunch of different missing people and/or their vehicles in sequence and ended up helping a bunch of families locate their loved ones. They seem to still be doing it. Just found out about them and they really seem to deserve the coverage.

[@XSilverXEclipseX]

Hi, just wanted to say you guys are awesome. I've been subscribed only a few weeks now, and I honestly don't know a thing about diving. In fact the whole idea terrifies me. But I can't help but be fascinated by your knowledge and on screen chemistry with each other. After watching most of your videos in the past few weeks I've gained respect for your passion, and the stories you tell. While I don't think I'll ever go diving myself, these videos show people like myself the fascinating world you guys live in. Thanks for all that you do, and stay humble as your channel grows. It really is fascinating to watch. And Woody is hilarious, find them aliens for the both of us!

[@dpoiriersmg]

I like what these divers did. Practicing difficult circumstances under controlled conditions can't hurt, provided you have someone who is capable of ensuring safety. It appears these divers did what they could to ensure safety, especially by practicing these skills in what appears to be shallower open water (my assumption on the shallow part). Thanks for putting this one out there!!

[@4ws0m0]

The moment you realize the 'A' in y'all's dive talk logo is designed after the direction arrow, nice touch!

[@DIVETALK]

Bingo.

[@Philth_E]

Lol at the "Donald Cerrone School of Cave Diving "

[@mrjlbarrett5556]

For me it taught me not to Panic . I am 70 still diving i have 2 kirby Morgan plus i live in The Philippines i started Diving at 26 I was trained at Diving Chamber in St Louis Mo

[@wendylynnemcinnes6067]

I had one last dive in Mexico left, for full cave, I was in the back with the reel in last place. We had a restriction/share air, that was coming up in the end. We all swim under this rock formation (Boulder) and it gets knocked loose further as I swim under. I was in a Haloclyne so not the best visibility. I try to move but I’m pinned to the floor! I first try signalling my team however, they didn’t notice, and turn the dark corner. I felt panic seeping in however, pushed it down hard telling myself to NOT DROP THE LINE. I stirred but silt so I was unable to read my air gage to reassure myself. I finally got my long hose out from around the huge rock and was fine. Thought I would share, no viz was nothing as long as I never dropped that reel!

[@gingereden546]

Oh man, that story had me on the edge of my seat o.o that had to be so terrifying! Congrats on keeping a calm head, I cant say id have been able to do that if I were in a cave and become pinned by a falling rock. How long was it before you saw your friends again? Did they notice you weren't with them anymore and come to look? (Thank god you were able to free yourself and make it out safely)

[@octogal]

@@gingereden546 I finally did catch up with them as they stayed in place around the corner when they noticed I wasn’t there. When the dive ended I would be lying if I said I finally did start crying. However, I went back in to do more cave dives that day. I was pretty mad at them to be honest lol.

[@EfeCemElci]

As someone who dives recreationally with long hose primary donate, the moment he ripped the regulator from (presumably) his buddy's mouth I was like "whoa!" but great and well timed explanation Gus!

[@danacowart3779]

Awesome, I love it when Gus isnt 💯%negative he's so informative when he isn't going after dummies in the water lol very professional I'm all for picking on people but Gus gets on a roll. Awesome show guys

[@keegs1163]

woody liked this post :D :D

[@joshlemke735]

Every time I see you KISS shirt I think of the evil gene simmons lol.

[@uwesieg7878]

If an exercise is simulating a possible emergency and the exercises and solutions were discussed before the dive, stress exercises are great confidence builders.

[@hunterowen8479]

I love these reactions to actual dive footage and training exercises! As a diver I sometime retain random tips from these videos and I hear your voices on my dives to keep my fins up and angle my head down etc 😂

[@Avionne_Parris]

Very interesting video guys! I had to research the instructor before offering any sort of opinion here (as I'm neither an instructor nor a diver). But what I found was interesting... He's a Polish treasure hunter and course director who does staff training, tech training and workshops. Known as the "MacGyver" of diving, he made his first rebreather with a car inner tube, mining rebreather parts, a toilet pipe and a vacuum cleaner! He seems to thrive on "winging" things which implies to me that he may sometimes give himself certain liberties while training. I would've loved an interview with Michal so Gus and Woody could pick his brain. Not sure if he speaks English though. All in all, great video! Oh, and to answer your question, I felt uncomfortable watching some of those underwater "tests". Probably would've bailed 5 mins in. Those divers are rockstars :-)

[@JadedBelle]

Interesting video and discussion as always guys! Thank you for your perspective! Definitely a different feel here than the worst instructor video in the past. It's helpful to see the contrast between the drill styles.

[@sstorholm]

Compared to the other video, for me as a non-diver the greatest difference was that this instructor did it slow and surely, being in control of the exersise, not haphazardly ripping off masks left and right completely losing control of the situation.

[@Daxas44]

I think it was a great training video... nothing too crazy or unrealistic. That previous one was definitely over the line and dangerous. This one was great and I really enjoyed watching it and hearing your inputs and advice. Another fantastic video by Dive Talk!

[@KB-gd6fc]

One of my cave diving fears is exiting on a gas share in zero vis with some crappy old line and then breaking it or pulling it off a tie off and becoming entangled.

[@Coffeeguyzz]

One of the Thai cave rescue divers lost contact with the line and had no viz. IIRC, he stayed still for a few minutes, remained calm, and eventually regained contact with the line. All this with a semi conscious boy tethered to him. That entire Thai rescue operation was beyond miraculous.

[@KB-gd6fc]

@@Coffeeguyzz I remember when I was happening I thought there was no possibility they'd get all of those kids out safely. It's by far the most incredible rescue operation in recorded history

[@Coffeeguyzz]

Three thumbs up for you guys, this video, and many of the insightful comments ... particularly those emphasizing the importance of experiencing stress and repetition/muscle memory response when facing challenging, unexpected circumstances. Specifically addressing 2 of Woody's comments ... being familiar with using your knife (always razor sharp!) is a must and incorporating a 'cutting' exercise regularly is a great idea. Eyes shut, unsheathing one's knife, making 2 cuts overhead on 3/8th inch poly line is a good example. Great video.

[@HesBack420]

I’ve only been watching you guys for about a week and I’m already looking for scuba diving courses near me, your love and enthusiasm for it is contagious keep up the great work guys !

[@kevjames4236]

I have never been on any kind of dive, snorkeling is the closest I've got but I have plenty of experience in extreme training measures and this seems like a well considered exercise and the skill level of his students seems to have been well measured. Everyone was calm an there were no extreme panics or mistakes during the drills. Seems well constructed and controlled by the instructor. In terms of safety at least I cannot comment on the techniques and the skills involved.

[@assassin8569]

I have been open water diving since I was 8 years old and got certified when I was 15. I wanna learn to cave dive properly. I had a friend try to invite me to go cave diving with him. Because of you guys and the knowledge I get from you I told him no I have no cave experience. Some of your videos have scared me from cave diving WITHOUT PROPER cave diving training. Which I am thankful for. Looking for an instructor in my area to learn from.

[@posie660]

I literally wait every week to see your videos!! This is my favorite channel right now!❤️

[@DIVETALK]

Thank you! We appreciate you.

[@optimustrond]

Great video guys! Looks like a good workshop in the video. Training beyond real life scenarios stille teaches you stress management and taskloading, so even though all skills from classes like this aren't 100% realistisc, you still learn a great deal from it!

[@Coffeeguyzz]

Exactly, and by way of task loading, cross learning arises in 'real world' situations wherein multiple, dynamic events unfold and require adaptable responses from the individual.

[@xyzpdq81]

Thanks Guys Greatly enjoy your content. I'm a basic open water diver and I would never go into an overhead environment without training before watching your videos But now I have a great understanding of the Why. Thank You Both.

[@johnvarr9950]

Great stuff to watch! I would agree that the fact that this is in open water makes it acceptable. You both make some really good points about the things that are questionable, like kicking up the bottom. Personally, I like these types of drills because they make you a better diver at the end of the day.

[@cbrasure925]

Hello. I'm not a diver but I thoroughly enjoy watching Dive Talk. Your channel just appeared on my KZbin about a month ago and it intrigued me and now I am hooked. Your insight and the knowledge you share is invaluable even though I'm not a scuba diver. Thank you.

[@jacobcook1608]

I'm all preparations and also prepping for unforseen circumstances bc idk everyone else but my luck I'd have every single problem possible happen some people just have bad juju, but I agree with yall about that first instructor yall reacted to but this guy was pretty good making sure he was in control and close enough to react at any moment but u guys are great and so humble!! Much respect!!!

[@wendylynnemcinnes6067]

Back in 2007 when I went for full cave [2 corses] in Mexico, I had already completed cavern and intro in northern Florida. I went with the best cave training school I heard of at the time. Our lights out exit, our instructor pulled the line from our weak OK 👌 sign on the line and wrapped it around my manifold. That was a disgusting exit, but we sorted ourselves and made it out. The light were constantly dying on us and it made it for and extra challenging course! Look sing back, I’m glad it did as losing a light became no big deal in the end!

[@autumnbarrier2773]

Omg the woody and Gus mug 😂 the “woody collection.” Octopuses are real shirt. You guys crack me up

[@009ADVENTURES]

I love learning so much from you guys, never know I may have to dive one day so handy to get a bit of knowledge 👍

[@timverkoyen8742]

Most probably will do my cave training end of next year, or beginning of the next. Definitely CAN wait to experience these type of emergency situations ;). At least I know what to expect. Very curious if I can learn to do these skills in such conditions!!!! Have an awesome weekend!

[@zdenekjankovsky3833]

This looks like fun practice session done under direct supervision of instructor. I would enjoy doing this session as a refresher after some time out of cave diving.

[@micheleiuliano6986]

Interesting video. Train hard to dive easily!! Well done guys as always nice to watch your videos!!

[@jaycreature3893]

I wish I never found DIVE TALK... it gives me anxiety lol. but I keep watching lol

[@10thGenOutdoors]

Woody…100% correct Standards are not easily nor cheaply created for the reason to teach the skill in a safe manner where it will be retained. This is a reaction only video… discussing is simply telling what we already know. Great video Gus

[@stefanheld6904]

Looks like a breakdown dive to me. 1st dive of the course in shallow water; max 5m so you can evaluate the students. You can also see you have the instructor + camera man, so I would expect afterwards to have a detailed video debrief and touch on all the points which can be improved.

[@eliasbeckermusic]

great advice at the end, really enjoyed the video :)

[@chrism1190]

Great video react guys. And I know exactly who you’re referring to with not keeping victim in front of rescuer. 😁

[@livingart2576]

Perhaps they should introduce head-on collisions at 40 mph into our driving tests so we know what to do if it happens in future!😜

[@divemasterdavid595]

I wasn't expecting my cave instructor to try to take one of my fins during a lost line drill. She had to slap my hand to make me let go of it.😆

[@Yggdrasil42]

I have no problem with this for tech training. During my cave training I did a "stress circuit" (nicknamed "death circuit") in open water where the instructor makes several incidents happen at once or in close succession. We laid down a line circuit which you have to exit. You're blind folded, lose a fin, get a reg freeflow or a inflator freeflow, an entanglement and he tries to snatch the line from your hand. Great way to practice triaging your issues and gain confidence. Fix whatever is life threatening first, manage your stress level then proceed to exit. It was great fun but definitely prepared me for the exercises we later did in the cave.

[@timweber2434]

Woody came in with a strong argument and framing right from the start

[@cartaman]

I remember my Cave instructor bless his soul he is not with us unfortunately his name was Mr. Rich Courtney this kind of training made me who I’m in cave diving who I’m …… guys like you who like wreck and cave diving so much thanks to the training I revive I fully trust my self.

[@maddievictoria4947]

Just went n checked out all your guys merch and just wanna say.. Wow! Yall even got scrunchies! Impressed! I adore your channel guys - sending love from Canada.

[@DIVETALK]

Awe thank you! I hope you picked up some Merch to stay warm up there in Canada!

[@carlokop556]

This actually looked like a lot of fun. Like to see your comments on the stress tests navy seals go through during their training. Are those realistic, no not really but they get your comfortable if something happens.

[@jamesyoung8360]

Thanks boys always look forward to your content

[@sgtcoxjb5132]

Just a beginner OW diver myself but I find cave diving and the training interesting. Very educational

[@abdoulnoname]

In my book, once you are passed the initial training, when it comes to life-saving skills you do not want to simply train for realistic situations but for the worse. And then when something happened, you can handle it without a problem.

[@deland1360]

Good video I agree with both of you. Extreme training will be better than a lack of training. Problems that compound can stress anyone even if it’s a simple problems. Good training imho. But trim was the biggest issue because of the reason you said.

[@MrTiton536]

I am back from vacation and it’s time to catch up to my favorite dive crew ! Dive talk rebreather club where you at !

[@ProceDesigner]

Watching this video I assume this divers are from Europe - potentially Poland, based on equipment (SANTI). Two points worth mention: 1. this workshop was more about trining divers mind and prepare them to the worst or the worst situations (more likely never happened in real life), to be prepare and do not panic in stressful situations. 2. in Europe there is not much (if any) caves to dive, mostly are mines which I believe they more dangerous than caves (correct me if I'm wrong), so divers need to be prepare not only for typical cave scenarios but as well for much more like collapse exit on the way out etc... as long as this is not training course and divers have some experience and workshop / exercises are in safe environment, I think is worth to be trained more then less Have a safe diving guys !

[@lyndiwilson2334]

Very interesting guys, as always. Gus, what would be the correct procedure to perform when your dive partner thinks he spots aliens and drops the line😉🤣

[@DIVETALK]

Swim away

[@lyndiwilson2334]

@@DIVETALK I freaking love you guys and your sense of humor

[@stevenwest000]

I was really expecting Gus to make a joke, when Woody mentioned about the importance of taking a knife, about thrusting it through his heart in the event of being ‘trapped’!

[@crowmilliken7826]

This isn’t bad. I thought this was gonna be these kinds of drills in an actual cave. Doing drills in open water is just doing drills in open water. I’d rather have a dive buddy ready for anything than figuring it out on the fly. As far as the real world bit, yeah it was. I’ve been tangled in a lake and been cut out before it’s common. So making a snag that you can’t just undue easily is good practice.

[@TheEarl777]

Hi Gus and Woody from Christchurch in NZ I’m not a diver but love your videos. You both not only have the experience to give constructive criticism well, but you are both good guys and it really shows. And if I was ever to be instructed to dive I would definitely want an instructor like you guys. Not the dude shown here. Bugger that. Cheers guys.

[@sstout86]

You know I gotta like and comment! Seriously though, love you guys! You have both inspired my wife and I to get open water certified!

[@DIVETALK]

Congrats!

[@mariosx12]

Damn, that trim/buoyancy was hard to watch for cave certified divers.

[@nathankoske238]

I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. I hope you see this, I saw you yesterday November the 14 on a dive trip to pompano you walked off the boat with an amazing rebreather I a very interested in a rebreather but since I am 11 I need a little more training until I could get one. But just thought I should let you know. :)

[@DIVETALK]

Hi Nathan! I wish you would’ve said Hi I would’ve loved meeting you and I hope you continue to dive and improve and in a few years you’ll also be diving an amazing rebreather!

[@gingereden546]

The first video you did where the instructor was ripping masks off and taking the students air repeatedly seems night and day different to me compared to this one. That one seemed more like a bully beating up nerds in the locker room where this instructor was clearly there to teach without risk of harming. The first guy didn't even give them a chance to recover before he'd rip their mask and air away again, it was more like his goal was to traumatize them as much as possible, which isn't the way to teach. He was also endangering his students, if one of them would have panicked a real emergency could so easily have happened. Even setting aside the danger, the student wouldn't retain anything they learned in a fit of terror. If anything it could cause the person to never touch water again. It looked so ptsd inducing, which isn't the purpose of training classes. Its one thing to teach by creating a situation and showing how to handle it (which you have to do so the person can learn how to handle all possible problems), but there's a right way and a wrong way to do that. Now on this trainer, I think they did amazing. The instructor is totally in control and professional. Hes doing it exactly as it should be to teach how to handle a problem, but without causing unnecessary risk. The students will walk away from this one having gained knowledge vs fear

[@pharaohgodreem1254]

The title sound's like an underwater nightmare

[@mikesbigadventures194]

I think this kind of stress testing and experience is a good way to do it - simulate the stress for the students but in a safe location with an instructor nearby. Given the fact this was videoed, this seems like its a GUE class (they do that - practice video it and debrief after) and I know of some Tech 1 instructors that require a 15 minute deco with no mask (which might be ok in Hawaii, but in Monterey, is a bit uncomfortable...)

[@blakepetersdiving]

Looks like a great confined space primer or workshop. Practicing emergency procedures under stressful conditions in open water with close supervision. I would sign up for this!

[@PhoenixShin]

I remember seeing that Worse Instructor video and then I saw MrBAllen's video about answering questions and he mentioned that as a Navy SEAL test/training they had to get attacked like that in try to stand it for 20 mins. He said he failed it so many times because he'd panic. Then he finally passed when he was determined to do it and drown... So I guess it does happen in some places... I don't think I could handle it hahah

[@grantharris467]

“Anything that an instructor does that outside an agency’s standards, it not within that agency’s standards” Yes, that checks out

[@alphadog007]

Weeee, a day off and a new vid :-) Happy Friday!

[@Bassalicious]

I've only ever scuba dived once as a teenager but seeing this training footage I'm itching to do it myself.

[@aliciazinn6211]

I think this was some quality training. 👌🏽 The bubbles sign was cute. But I love learning all the diving sign I think this guy was a lot better than the other instructor. That guy was a power hungry, psychologicaly torturous sociopath!!

[@paddysullivan2893]

I totally agree with this type of drill We are a club with 30-something divers some of the divers regularly partaking in decompression dives in the English channel where conditions can be testing on a good day. Most of the divers have their groups which they like to dive with. Being a club we meet every Tuesday eve at the pool for training and developing drills for upcoming expeditions. The more advanced divers would dive the local lake partaking in these sorts of drills in their 3 man dive team Safty Safty has to be a priority getting the chance to experience firsthand the failers we might encounter on our dive.

[@belindapaul9828]

Sounds like your mob really have it together.

[@brokemechanicfpv1420]

You guys Rock!!! I'm huge fan!!! Watching all your videos. I am a drone pilot in the sky's and you guys are the real deal under water. I love how you guys are regulating your hobby yourselves and teaching the safety aspect. We do the same but unfortunately with Amazon wanting to use drones it put a spotlight on us with the government. With ppl like you guys I think your hobby can go a long way and I would love to take a couple open water classes. Cave dives are for the bad asses and that's not me 😁

[@Julie-kq7pm]

I'm not a diver but I felt like the challenges given during this were much less intense and seemingly more realistic. Love the shirt Woody was wearing. I'm getting it!

[@angelkowalski4846]

Great video. I think we should know what the main purpose of the drill was. We can’t assume this was training uncertified divers. Probably a more experienced diver was training certified divers how to handle stressful situations regardless whether they could happen in real dives. If you frequently train under more demanding conditions and learn how to act properly, you develop good skills (habits) that make you a safer diver. We should encourage people to practice skills more often to minimize the human error. Gus an Woody’s comments were awesome, good job.

[@overcash007]

I am not cave trained yet but every dive I practice at least one or more skills I try to always do skills that I have at one point stumbled on or found uncomfortable

[@Mr3ENTLEY]

Interesting point Woody made. He metioned that Brian would have him "OK" the line and sometimes brian was able to get it out of Woody's "OK" of the line. My question is, Why would you only "OK" the line over grasping it with your entire hand. If its your life, why depend on 2 fingers, rather then 5 fingers and the muscles of your arm? Wouldn't you have a better grip and less chance of loosing the line if you grasped it with your entire hand?

[@DIVETALK]

Yes. And that’s why I did that the one time my life depended on it. 😎

[@Mr3ENTLEY]

@@DIVETALK Great point & thank you for taking the time to respond to a noobie like me! I find your channel truly fascinating and I look forward to learning more from you guys!

[@pinnacledivingco]

26:20 in: Woody, AMEN! Not juse cave diving. ALL divers at ALL levels should practice SOMETHING on EVERY dive! Yes! Great statement! Strongly agree.

[@angiedillman7963]

I would take a class like that, I'm an open water diver, and I think one can never be too prepared, so yes, I would take this course in a heartbeat..

[@Creeer2005]

My Dad gave me my first dive knife at 14 yrs old. Was so proud of myself for being responsible enough to have a 'real' knife.

[@Scubadoc]

For NAUI cave 1 I had to do the no vis line drill with my mask off and then with the blindfold on.

[@davedavids9619]

I have no problem with tough training, as long as it is controlled and there is help available 100 % of the time. In other words, I only see 2 divers and 1 instructor, plus of course the guy filming the whole thing. I would have preferred to see 2 divers, 1 instructor and 1 extra safety close by who can come to the rescue at any second. That is why the military always trains in an extremely controlled situation and when you do that you can go very far in your training. There is a saying in the military that goes like: 'train as you fight' and it does work.

[@timgosling6189]

I think you should practice an emergency skill every time you go diving, anywhere.

[@jonathanplant935]

I agree with high stress testing to a certain extent as long as it’s done safely and under guidance from experienced instructors.. knowing your own limitations and reactions to certain stresses could be life saving, not just in diving but all action sports or hunting or even weapons training. I’m not a diver but I would appreciate learning under stress like that just so I know all the more about my own reactions and what to work on in the future to remain as cool headed as possible

[@thispacifist9004]

Whispers to Woody.... That's what Gus was saying how your classes go...but ssshh don't tell him I told you... 😆

[@fancyflautist]

Question- why is it better to touch the top of the cave than the bottom (especially if already silted out)? I would think it'd be the opposite. Great video! Always stoked to see a new Dive Talk.

[@DIVETALK]

Because there’s less silt in the ceiling than the bottom.

[@fancyflautist]

@@DIVETALK That makes sense. I guess I just figured when you're already silted it wouldn't matter, but making the issue worse isn't smart I guess lol

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

Luv’n DiveTalk from Down Under…!!! 👍😊

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

I'm going to say it comes down to "Knowing what I signed up for"... Others might say something about consent being informed and all, up front, and that's important. If you think you're signing up for a refresher on basic scuba, and this is thrown at you "out of the blue", then there needs to be words... BUT for the sufficiently advanced, getting just one pear-shaped situation after another, AS CAN HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD... it can amount to good solid practice and build not only skills but confidence in your skills. I think it's been repeated on this channel often enough, "No single problem or issue kills a diver. It's when he or she fails to negotiate one issue and another and another comes up." It's worth getting a little stressed "in practice" so you're a bit better prepared for it when sh*t hits the fan "for realzies"... Out there, it's not a reset and try again. You get ONE shot. SO maybe some of the dubiously aggressive practice sessions are good for team building and personal growth... SO LONG AS IT'S INFORMED. ;o)

[@riccardooliva2782]

Great video guys! Will the black t-shirt with just the dive talk logo be in stock again anytime soon?

[@gabrielallen5248]

Hello Gus, hello Woody