Divesting from the "natural hair community" was GREAT for me tbh. | Ti Talks (and Detangles)

[@Cindy-vg9ki]

"Colorism walks so texturism can run" This statement is so powerful it's not even funny.

[@proverbalizer]

That part. and can you imagine if lighter skin was called grade "a" and darker skin was labeled grade "c". If pale skin was called #1, tan skin #2, medium brown skin #3, and dark brown skin #4? Would people actually embrace such a skin-color-scale? Would people actually say that Beyoncé has 2b skin and Kelly Rowland has 3c skin?

[@Taangxx]

Right I had to steal that quote for Facebook lol

[@1DreaJ]

Yes!

[@mye7569]

Yesssssss!!!!!!

[@mye7569]

This woman is the truth!

[@jojo.-2144]

I volunteer at the kids department at my church and there are black girls there that look up to me. I always wear my natural hair to church, either in braids, out, or puffs. I want those girls to see that black hair is beautiful. I am only 13 but these girls are 8 years old and I need to engrave this in their spirit while they are young.😊

[@kimoralashawn3273]

Jojo.*-* Thank you so much for doing that!! I’m 15 and I try to make sure that when I volunteer at church those little girls see me embracing my hair. It’s girls like you who are gonna help these girls be proud of who they are.

[@jojo.-2144]

@@kimoralashawn3273 thanks😊

[@MadamMaxine5]

So awesome! Keep inspiring.

[@michele33s68]

Amen

[@jojo.-2144]

@yeet boii you can wrap your hair around its self. There are a couple videos on KZbin that show how to do it.

[@mimikelembe]

Pertaining to the baby hair thing, when people started relaxing their edges so they could lay down when they style them, that’s when I was like okay, I’m out

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Lawd -- I'd forgotten that was even a thing. Great point!

[@whoome1638]

Damn, they did that!

[@clanwargods]

I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing when I watched those videos. Like why??? Why?

[@donnamiddleton8806]

I have never been a fan of the baby hair laid down edges. It never looked natural to me.

[@Maki-00]

Donna Middleton If you naturally have baby hair, it’s ok, but some women just have 3 inches of hair breakage that they try to slick down and make it look like baby hair! It usually looks so ridiculous!

[@Njoofene]

Bingo! "People are more interested in seeing the type of hair they wished they had rather than caring for the hair they actually have." Can I steal that quote? You have just summed up the natural hair community with that statement.

[@Julia-lk8jn]

And the (horrible) beauty of it is that it applies just as much to houses, rooms, faces, bodies ... could it be that 90% of instagram success is build on this concept?

[@nusaibahibraheem8183]

But isn't that what people usually want to see, what they don't have but aspire to have.

[@semoneg2826]

Well said

[@brigettea.bryant3852]

"The vast majority of people are more interested in seeing the hair they wish they had rather than learning to care for the hair they actually have."

[@JustMeg29]

Yes!!!! Absolutely!!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@queentstv]

Wordddd

[@KaylinCandiesfactoRy]

Facts😓 they desire to be seen as beautiful instead of embracing their natural hair type

[@BabyGirl-cw6uj]

Which is why Instagram "baddies" and fake fitness woketivists generally have more followers.

[@mrsl2175]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@daydreamerz]

So happy you gave a shoutout to StarPuppy. Her hair is 4c, short, thin, and fine. She doesn’t have any of the "desirable" hair traits, but I’m 100% sure that in one way or another she represents the majority of black women’s hair. She’s not letting texturism control her.

[@potatopotatoeOG]

She's amazing..I love her😫

[@camillefaith2005]

And her skin is PERFECT!!! I'm so jealous.

[@scortez99]

her hair isn’t short😂

[@veronicaclark2191]

@@scortez99 She describes her hair as medium short length I think

[@veronicaclark2191]

Her eyes are huge, it looks good on her

[@natachagordon5089]

"Colorism walks so that texturism can run" please make that t-shirt! I would rock that!

[@ajroseyy9991]

YES.

[@lanabk528]

Same!

[@Torihappyness]

Don't know whether to laugh or cry but it's true.

[@BluDrop5]

@@TorihappynessBoth.

[@leahmcallister1535]

Yes.

[@thedestroyer9024]

Can we also talk about the obsession to grow our hair? Like short hair is beautiful too! If their hair isn't at least to their shoulders, some people call themselves 'bald headed'. Why? And people like to talk about shrinkage as if it's something unnatural, but really, there's no such thing as 'shrinkage'! Our hair is naturally curly, that's how it's supposed to be.

[@Julia-lk8jn]

It kind of hurts that a perfectly natural process gets such a negative sounding label slapped onto it. I'm quite envious about the volume and texture of curly or even kinky (is that term still in use and okay?) hair. My own 'straight as chives' hair looks so thin in comparison, or just flat and boring. I know, I know: Always greener on the other side ...

[@thedestroyer9024]

@@Julia-lk8jn I love my natural hair. Wouldn't trade it if I could.

[@candacew.6453]

THISS! In the fb natural hair groups I'm a part of, almost everyone is obsessed with hair length. They do the length checks and are always asking how to grow their hair longer. It's okay to want length, but when you hate your hair at the length it's currently at it becomes a problem. And some people's hair isn't meant to be super long.

[@hawleyrigsby3123]

@@Julia-lk8jn We’re trained by product sellers to want what we don’t have and obsess about minutia rather than appreciating our whole selves because that doesn’t scare us into buying stuff to “fix” our “problem” 😤

[@gcsugirl]

I’m so sick of those “stretching” photos and videos. It will be a nice style but they always have to stretch just so you know how long it is. So lame.

[@lyng7247]

Finally, someone else who doesn’t care about ‘edges’. Was beginning to think there’s something wrong with me

[@dejstoney]

Same!!

[@Prof.SeverusSnape]

I tried it, failed, and gave up.

[@stormyskyz7881]

Fuck edges

[@cetinabanks2]

Omg, you guys are sooo funny and sooo right!! Lol

[@hopkins-mccoy5259]

Same sis

[@fredamariebrown4727]

I HATE laying down "edges" I'm 63 years old, have been "natural" about 16 years...and LOVE my edges...let my hair DO what it wants. My hair is VERY CONSCIOUS!

[@shariontipler5542]

I'm 63 too with A LOT of gray and very fine hair. I've been natural since '96 and I've never "laid" an edge either 🤣👍🏽😷

[@dar6500]

That's what being natural is all about. Sometimes it's all over the place, but that's good, too!😉

[@JaneDoane]

@@dar6500 yeah it's not "a thing" in natural hair community, just girl with weaves, relaxed or natural hair, who love to do it !

[@tab5567]

@@shariontipler5542 lol. I’m 54 and i remember girls doing baby hair in the 70s and thought it was over and here it is back again! I’m like what?? Even my husband said women are doing that again ? 😂

[@chosentheempress]

I don’t lay my edges often either. I love my messy looking edges! Sometimes my people ask why I don’t fix my hair so much lol. I tell em it’s ok to be in my natural state 💕

[@enlightenmental_]

Ooh chile when I tell you I had to PAUSE TO COMMENT when you said “people care more about seeing the hair they WISH THEY HAD rather than learning to CARE for the hair they DO HAVE...”!!! This right here! So much sense on this channel 👏 which is why I subbed years ago and am still here! The tide will turn though. I’m believing in that. Because there are lots of us (myself included) popping up everywhere to talk about real hair and how to REALLY care for it and enjoy it, and trying to NORMALISE ALL our textures. Soon enough, as people grow out of their self-rejection and begin to want more for themselves and their kids (for those who have/want them), the “movement” will evolve and we’ll fetishise looser curls less and less. We’ve just got to keep at it.

[@frenchryah221]

It was so disheartening when I came to my hbcu and noticed the only people who wore their natural hair out had lose textures. People would fawn over my afro because it was so rare to see someone with 4C hair. It’s hard to keep confidence when you see everyone with your hair is ashamed of it but I wanna be an example for younger black girls

[@semoneg2826]

Yes...if we wear natural kinky hair out.. People make comments like.... What's wrong with your hair

[@passionfashions3018]

I’m just overwhelmed with all the different oils and products they are claiming to do the trick. Some KZbinrs are using over 20 different products and claiming different ones to be the ultimate for hair growth depending on which one they want to make a video about that day.

[@saraitomblin9246]

Yess it stresses me out so much 😭😭

[@pbnmy_photodrive8087]

So many products

[@lilyjr.1384]

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart ❤️

[@gina8763]

Hi..I agree with you Passion fashions...there are so many products in the market.. honestly I don't even know my hair type/grade whatever they're calling it now a days..I just want a simple routine and haven't found one yet..so many different videos and products

[@No_Frills_Carnivore]

I just use beef fat, olive oil, and some essential oils and a few ayurvedic ingredients. Works wonders.

[@reginek.7042]

"This whole 1,2,3,type 4 hair functionally is a whole lot like the brown paper bag test" 😳 @11:50 This statement shook me; she was speaking facts.

[@Forevagabby]

What's the brown paper bag test?

[@Gnabaj02]

@@Forevagabby okay I’m gonna explain it in a simple way so I don’t confuse you or my myself lol. But the brown paper bag test was just a test they used to do to see whose skin color was basically “better “ or “preferable .” So to my understanding basically the way you get treated is based on how much melanin you had . So if you were light skin since you’re seen as closer to the white side then you are treated a little better and would probably get more opportunities than your darker skin counterpart . Hope that made sense , and if I’m wrong anyone can feel free to correct me 😊. But if you want more details you should definitely Google it ❤️.

[@Forevagabby]

@@Gnabaj02 thx

[@aspirehigher6368]

@@Forevagabby even more simply put, you'd literally not be allowed entry into certain spaces/organizations/conversations if you were darker than the color of a brown paper bag. This led to things like people leaving those areas they lived in for better communities that accepted their families, some people attempting to marry someone of lighter complexion so their children did not have the same problems, some lighter people attempting to disassociate from it all by having to leave their families altogether and live life "passing as white" or staying but telling their lighter children to leave move on from the family and do so for better jobs, or having their lightskin children grow up thinking they're actually white only for them to be in trouble with their spouse when the color their children came out as is inexplicably brown.. colorism runs deep in the world but especially in the black American community where these types of discrimination practices as the brown paper bag test were things legally in effect against our ancestors from the hateful oppressors to keep us down in every possible way they could scheme and think of. Thankfully, people who fought against all of this for civil rights have not fought in vain if we live in a day where there are people who do not know about the common issues of the Jim crow era such as this, but it is also not good at all to not know this history so I'm glad you asked. It's important to know. Nobody is born knowing it - I didn't always know it - but it's important to know! May we continue to educate and to outlaw anything that imposes injustice and inflicts evil.

[@lynnwilhoite6194]

@@aspirehigher6368 Well said girl, well said.

[@emilybarclay8831]

I’m a white girl with the most 1a hair you can imagine so I know nothing about natural hair but I feel like (almost) every community based around a certain characteristic (hair, body image, body mods, certain mental health conditions ect) becomes so painfully gatekeep-y after a while. Because it attracts people who’s main insecurity is that trait and it becomes a cesspool of toxic, insecure circlejerkers who attack anyone who is actually happy with themselves out of jealousy or some equivalent. It happened to the body positivity community, the natural hair community, it’s just the natural progression of any community that focuses around loving a trait, because people’s insecurities make them toxic

[@SaraHinata]

You hit the nail on the head!

[@NelidaUtuwatu]

Amen. We gotta learn that with skin color too 😔😔

[@MeagGallagher]

That’s so true. I came across a series of bullet journaling videos talking about how toxic that community is. Apparently people in the journaling community attack other people who journal a slightly different way like it’s “not the correct way to journal”. I guess most groups of people end up turning into groups of over policing jerks.

[@Pari1899]

I agree. Why can’t people just be? It’s just sad that people feel there is a need for all kinds of communities in order to be connected.

[@mmeraginel]

Breastfeeding is another one I can think of. Great cause, toxic environment.

[@charwilson3654]

OMG...the obsession with "baby hair" makes me insane! I do not understand it!

[@gu2755]

😂😂😂😂😂🌻🌞🌈🦄🤸🏽‍♀️🇿🇦

[@LuckeyClover]

For reall😫 I see every single black girl in my school slapping pounds of gel on their edges, and I'm like "why, what's the point?" I meen it looks nice ig, but idk why they gotta buy all this stuff just to fit in. I personally do my hair and than use my satin scarf over night, and it lays my edges down just fine without no swoops and "baby-born" forehead curl😂😂😂😂 Whatever floats their boat ig, they ain't hurtin me w what they do, so ima just stay in my business 👀

[@peachesandpoets]

It looks ridiculous

[@Rue100]

Baby hair looks sooo fake and ridiculous why why why

[@maiaracarvalho6573]

Yes, I hate the looks of it, definitely not for me

[@emmaelisha1339]

Let's not forget the new "trend" is mislabeling your hair as 4c for clout.

[@afroliciousTV]

who does that and why? what type of clout?

[@emmaelisha1339]

@@afroliciousTV basically they use the 4c hashtag to garner traffic even tho they know their hair isn't 4c

[@oliviah.4741]

Facts

[@wakeup7874]

like Sakai Jackson love her but she is not 4C

[@emmaelisha1339]

@Jasmine Aurora ummm the ones ik off hand are halfrican beaute, naptural 85, amber ansah, efikzara and natural reign

[@TaylordSpirit]

Love this subtle hair flex you're serving whilst reading the natural hair community like a book. 😍🤭

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

😅

[@bougiebohemian5393]

I came because you said “whilst”. I stan.

[@taele1090]

For real though. She a beast

[@melacksamson7985]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. i hate the 1-4 system. i also find it interesting how black ppl/dark skinned/kinky hair are always at the bottom of these sort of rankings

[@sage_comics]

Imagine being in your own country in Africa (nigerian) and they hate your hair if you do braids, only a few guys like it, wats more surprising is most of the ladies out here dont like it.

[@thetongueofangels1882]

@@sage_comics in the Caribbean we are still facing this problem too

[@sage_comics]

@@thetongueofangels1882 i can imagine, its why there's a protest going on, because they harass ppl especially if you with dreads and braids, etc as a guy, its ridiculous, Ofc not everyone will look fit the style buh yunno, cause of the stereotypes, you seen as a bad person, i love my hair fam, majority of ppl like the style, when im out, so keep it glowing dont let em stop you, we live once.

[@epic7224]

@@thetongueofangels1882 not here on Jamaica lol. Braids are loved here. Speak for gour country only xd

[@misskingii]

What's wrong with knowing your hair type? I love being a 4c girl!

[@mplsgrl]

OMG!! Thank you for talking about finding weave that matches your hair. 4 years ago I ordered kinky curly hair had it installed and my feedback from family and some friends was surprising. They all did not understand WHY I chose to install hair that looked just like my own hair. UMMM!!! I love my hair, maybe that is why...

[@1tsjustjess]

Once I stopped caring about my hair it grew so much. The natural hair community taught me how to damage my hair and also how to care for it but honestly now that I do the bare minimum my hair is thriving soooo. Also, I did find following people with similar hair to mine helped me appreciate my texture 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@imperfectlyEm]

I don't have experience with the natural hair community (if it's not incredibly obvious) but I do find it fascinating and really twisted how the systems we fight to get away from often follow us because they're so ingrained in ourselves. So even when we think we're going against all those toxic influences, they're actually leading us right to the same behaviors of the past. Thanks for sharing, Ti. I always enjoy hearing your take on things because it activates my brain to think about a *lot* more than just what you directly speak on in your videos.

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Thank you, my friend! It's so true, though. Once I saw people "going natural," I figured it was in for a penny, in for a pound. Turns out the embracing of of afro-textured hair was fair from being fully inclusive, and instead reflected an extremely incremental change. Huwight supremacy ruins everything.

[@victorybeginsinthegarden]

That's capitalism for you 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mommydrinkspolitics3115]

Girl, You are invited to the barbecue!!!!

[@lain2153]

@@mommydrinkspolitics3115 no.

[@alexanderjames7057]

@@mommydrinkspolitics3115 ain't no more barbeque!

[@lessahowell2550]

I thought I was the only one who hates “laying my edges”. It is nice to see another 4C person who just love her hair the way it is. I love Starpuppy; her channel is the youtube hair content I watch. Your hair is beautiful period.

[@nolimittee94]

I use setting lotion/mousse on my edges and black men stare and compliment me 😍

[@kapparhotau181]

Starpuppy is my favorite as I go thru similar experiences with her where it concerns my hair. I dont worry about my edges I like my edges to be curly 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@jamilawilliams243]

The obsession with edges is weird af. A friend pulled me to the side once and with concern in his voice told me his aunt wanted me to know that my edges were rough. I was appalled and simultaneously unconcerned. I have managed to maintain fine yet thick hair and a decent puff and your concerned about my edges. It was then I decided not to bother. Those people aren't offering to do my hair every morning or know this hair does what it wants and I just go along with it lol

[@feleciacunningham4859]

Its exhausting try to lay edges.

[@michelle_ajema]

@@jamilawilliams243 Whaaaat? How can a stranger be bothered about YOUR edges?

[@nothingsintheflowerz1798]

"more interested in seeing the hair they wished they have rather than learning to love the hair they have" 💯

[@kennethmcgowan333]

"Not Nappy. Not Jojoba. You gotta say the whole thing. Its like A Pimp Named Slickback." Aaaaand I subscribed lol.

[@denisebarakahlawrence6412]

that was the line that got me also...(especially being from the 6 decades-back-in-da-day" crowd ;) )

[@richealakushikaallotey6584]

Me toooo!!

[@olusholaakilo981]

Saaaaaaame

[@kapparhotau181]

🤣🤣🤣

[@RebelforaSpell]

Hahahaaa Love herrrr

[@IjeomaThePlantMama]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm glad you eventually transitioned away from hair content. 1. The streets are wildin' and your voice is very much NEEDED. And 2. I don't know how many products and hair hats I've purchased based on your recommendations over the years, but my debit card is grateful for the break. I'm happy you've found your place out here💕

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Oh girl -- I have purchased waaay less conditioner and hair hats, since 1.) getting out of the hair game as a creator, and 2.) getting out of the game (for the most part) as a viewer. Now, when it comes to fashuns and makeups? It's been a slower recovery. But, overall, these wildin' skreets are definitely on my mind way more than buying ish that I don't need. 😩

[@sixteen.candles.4644]

Agreed. Its getting crazy as hell in america.

[@tashibalampkin8555]

"Y'all not ready to decolonize your lacefronts." And I opp-

[@deejay6272]

Whew chile!!!!!!! I bout threw my phone down when she said dat😂 she came with a word!!!!

[@dawnrosewood7060]

Lol yepp. Honestly we need to stop wearing straight hair for elegant events as if our own hair cant be.

[@denisebarakahlawrence6412]

@@dawnrosewood7060 You can say that again Ms. Beasley!

[@lisadunk323]

I was a you tube junkie watching all these natural hair videos, then going out buying all these natural hair products until i got tired of it all and went back to the basics. Water , pink oil moisturizer and sealing it with Blue magic, kept my routine simple. deep conditioning, protective styling then BAM i noticed in one yr my hair grew 10 inches. Now being 3 yrs natural and loving it my hair is past bra strap. Ladies go old school. It worked for all of us when we were kids . Our mamas just kept it simple . GO OLD SCHOOL

[@bellissimabombshell]

this part

[@Asia.Persuasia]

My whole life people put me on a pedestal because of my loose textured hair and features (both of my parents are still Black) and it always bothered me because I knew even back then as a child/teen that they saw me as "less Black=special". That's one reason why I find it hard to get with the Hair Community now because it just seems like the exact same thing, people only want to see hair like mine because it's "less Black". I love and support women like Star Puppy because they are unapologetic and share their beauty with the world even though society tries to stifle it. Your hair is beautiful and I hope one day you decide to make one or two last hair videos.

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Thank you -- yes, it reminds me of when I was little and everyone was obsessed with Chilli from TLC's hair. Like...most BW ain't ever going to have hair like that (without heat and/or chemicals), and yet it seemed like people were always trying to find out how they could "get their hair like that." *le sigh*

[@channygirlchantelg5895]

AsiaPersuasia I had to comment because I have faced another form of this. My mom is Hispanic/Swedish and my father is Black. I did not get the “coveted” loose 3 textures. I don’t like referencing the hair typing chart but for lack of a better way I’m a slight 3/c, abundant 4a with a dose of 4b in my crown. With that said, I suppose my skin tone makes me “special” but my hair is perceived as a “disappointment”. Ti said it correctly when she linked Colorism and Texturism and I’m sick of the whole model. It divides us and also can create personal self doubt. Anyway, appreciated your thoughts.

[@plee6223]

BTW-Starpuppy has great content.

[@mochamimi8781]

Channygirl Chantel G I completely agree with you! I’m Puerto Rican and Black and my hair is 4a-4c mixture and people either say I’m lying about my mixed race or that I must be upset that I didn’t get “good hair” 😕 I’ve learned to finally accept and love it.

[@ruemissm6800]

I love Starpuppy❤️

[@Ambi1021]

So true! When I worked as a teller at a bank I would push my 4C hair into a nice neat puff. Almost on a daily basis the other black women would tell me my hair is nappy and needed a comb pulled through it. One girl even offered to do my hair 3 times before I finally went off on her (in a polite way). I like the hair that grows from my scalp. I don't need a perm, hot comb, weave or any other styling tool. My niece has 4C hair and one day she said to me "I have nappy hair". I was shocked and sadden. A mother should NEVER tell their child their hair is nappy or use negative affirmations when referring to it. I told her it was beautiful and that we have the same hair and nothings wrong with it. I love my hair the way it is. Just like a woman who has curly hair or straight hair should love theirs.

[@try8042]

I worked at a school. There were only two natural women, myself being one of them. When my coworker and I went natural, a memo went out about acceptable hair styles and such. Of course all the styles didn't look like my natural hair. We both quit eventually, but its real out there in the corporate world.

[@Ambi1021]

@@try8042 That's horrible! I'm sorry you had to experience that.

[@yes_blackgirlslisten2rock489]

Yup!!! I feel this, it is extremely embarrassing and sad that some(small minority) black women think like this! Like this is the hair that grows out of your scalp. Other women with different hair textures do not feel that way. They do not hide their natural hair texture as much under a wig hat. I can't deal with the self-hatred, I am wearing my nappy hair all day every day.

[@WEFAbender6]

Nappy's gonna have to become the new n word for hair that we claim for ourselves cuz it's ridiculous. Imagine all the things that plague us and we have to be concerned about the shape of someone's hair follicles 😪

[@try8042]

@@Ambi1021 Thank you. It was a learning experience.

[@DaKid27]

I noticed this too. I'm a guy and when I started growing my hair out I had a lot to learn about how to properly look after it and it really grated on me to see the type 3 people who just put their hair in water to get a twist out (and make you feel like a wash and go is possible) with 1m subs and the ones with actual 4c hair giving great information and 200 videos with 3k subs ... Colourism walked so texturism could run! It all comes back to the same thing: proximity to wh.... let me not getting myself in trouble!

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Exactly! Agree on all of your points. And, if it had been only me flailing-but-still-sinking, I would have thought it was just that _my_ content was trash. When I looked around and saw my 4c peers making great content and getting no shine, I realized this was... _a thing._ (And I'm cackling over the water-only twistout = 1M subs. 😆 Chillingly accurate.)

[@thelaugh2884]

A wash and go is possible for 4c hair it's called a fro. Don't let the toxicity of the natural hair community tell you you CANT do something

[@whoome1638]

The Laugh nah wash and go for my 4c hair is called shrinkage lol

[@mzhector1]

This is exactly why I specifically seek out 4B/4C youtubers.

[@kindred239]

@@mzhector1 But even when you tried to search for 4B/4C youtubers. You realize that the type 3 and 4/A girlies are lying about their hair texture being 4c to get views. Like what is the point of lying about your own texture if it already gets views.

[@jenniferbowen7353]

Ever seen Disney's Brave? 😳 yep. My natural hair is Merida. Red, thick, wavy, textured crazy hair. After many years of wearing a bun someone said they love my hair color and asked why I never wear it down. I rolled my eyes and said, if you see this mess.. you would understand. She was African American btw. She just starred at me for a minute.. then said.. girl, let me at it. I am forever thankful that someone finally taught me how to properly care for this mess of hair I was given. I watch these channels now in case I can find anything new that might make it even easier. Ty for sharing your content. I'm finally in love with my hair.

[@letricewalton4421]

Yea I know a few people that are Irish and other European cultures with kinky hair and they have to have black or multicultural hairdressers. A lot of white stylists can’t manage hair that isn’t more straight. One of my godmothers is Irish and her hair is super thick. She didn’t know how to manage hers either and it took a black woman to help her figure it out. She got a relaxer to straighten her hair. I’m black (well mixed) and I still have a lot to learn! Good luck!!

[@SharmaineJoyel]

You're absolutely correct. I was hesitant to start creating hair videos because in the back of my mind I knew I did not have the stereotypical "desirable hair texture/good hair", even as a biracial/mixed woman. But I knew that someone out there could hopefully benefit from what I had to share and discover about my own type 4 hair and that's what continues to motivate me to this day. But I completely understand how overwhelming and discouraging it can be as a type 4 hair creator to be either compared to or not have as big of a platform as those with type 3 hair. Like others have said, I am glad that you have changed your content to diving into these topics and shining light on them in our community. Commentary such as this is priceless. Love your channel!

[@Niabiafoefia]

All I heard was truth in this entire video.

[@kaylyntay]

Siiis you watch NappyHeaded jojoba too??? 👀 I see you 😂😂😂

[@Sheilawyer]

I liked this comment while the intro ads were still playing cause I knew no lies would be told ☺️

[@sombonTV]

So real slash hilarious! Love this whole video! I have just started looking for clip-ins and wigs this last year & esp in quarantine bc it’s so dry always being inside & so true that THERE IS NEVER ANYTHING that matches my short 4c hair! So I usually just give up. Bc I don’t wanna rock hair that fundamentally isn’t mine. I want my own hair reflected at all times, like you mentioned. So thank you for saying all of this. Hope it’s heard. (Also your hair is BEYOND! 😍)

[@cdnnykr]

Amen 👏🏾

[@sylviacrafts6704]

I agree and I'm not black but I see it, maybe she can start a new movement that will really make a difference and move forward not backwards.

[@mannypedib]

She SHAKIN THE TABLE! Baby hair culture is ridiculous

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Hate. It. 😅

[@NappyHappyDrumMajor]

It's weird how GROWN WOMAN are obsessing over "BABY" hair... So weird.

[@WitsNSass]

There are “naturals” that are actually relaxing...their EDGES! Lawd ha’mercy...that’s when I knew the shark had been jumped!

[@Ang.143]

Girl it’s the worst!!!

[@Ang.143]

WitsNSass sure are!!!! I saw someone with locs do it for baby hairs too. A mess

[@lolaamazonia5218]

What black women with 4c hair dont realize is you can put so many curl enhancing products, curl activators and twists outs 4c hair can never be like other hair.. without texturing it, curly perming or relaxing. 4c hair can not behave the way you want it to. Love how your 4c hair is...or get a perm. Your choice 🤷‍♀️ ❤ love your hair and channel content.

[@yani2735]

The way the natural hair community started and went reminds me of how social media was/is... it started out with a different vibe and then all hell broke loose 😩

[@fefemyluv]

I agree. For instance, NappyFu has BEEN in the game and drops QUALITYYYYYYY content. She should easilyyyy be in the top 5 biggest influencers in the natural hair community. I’m talking about over a million followers, endless marketing deals, etc. But I know that colorism, ageism, and texturism are all having an impact on her and many others. It’s incredibly sad. Yet, we will easily buy out an entire line made by someone who has clearly different hair from us and continuously watch as if our hair is akin to theirs. These isms are a huge hindrance to any real footprint we can make toward betterment.

[@TheVivrantCatalog]

Buying out entire lines.... even celebrities. Coming out w/ their own lines when black women started from the ground up making their own products and can’t buy any. But a white company with a black spokesperson or a black celebrity will sell out products half the size and twice as expensive. Make it make sense.

[@jrr7031]

Dont know how that is.....and i dont even have interest in hair channels...but if she dark skin and got that thick hair lol i wanna see it. U saod millions of subs????

[@fefemyluv]

Yours Truly bingo! I really wish more people were aware of this!

[@fefemyluv]

JR R you would think, right?!!! But, sadly, that’s not always the case. Just a quick look at all the top natural hair “gurus” on KZbin tells the story.

[@MrsThollo]

In my case, NappyFu helped a lot as I learned how to care for my natural hair but frankly, I'm very picky with who I devote my time to. I like Nappyheadedjojoba's other content and demeanor so I continue to subscribe. My decision to no longer follow most natural hair KZbinrs is quite simple: they taught me what I needed to know about hair and now I'm done. It has nothing to do with all the "-isms". I don't need the product pushing (and the goofiness is annoying) and I have other interests and things that are more important than my KZbin notifications. After reading your comment, I may resubscribe to get her numbers up and show support but it's unlikely I'll watch the videos. ✌🏾❤️

[@lynnkandie343]

I will never forget the day I was told by a hairstylist that my hair was too hard to straighten. That's when I started doing my 4C hair at home and gave up on going to salons.

[@chosentheempress]

Yep, happened to me last year. They didn’t want to wash or blow dry my hair. They snuck some perm in my hair (I believe because the smell..?) and I had to shave my whole head of hair after it had just gotten long again. I’m back to my length now.. and I’m doing my own hair every time!

[@jessicaredditt8826]

@@chosentheempress OMG that's my worst fear (a stylist slipping relaxer into my hair during the wash process). I always had hair stylists suggesting a perm or texturizer so I quit going and do my own hair now.

[@KM-rj6bu]

Where do you live? I live in South Florida & there are a few good natural hair salons.

[@lynnkandie343]

@@KM-rj6bu Heyyy, You will not believe this but I'm a Kenyan, living in Kenya. Yes an African, who was told by other Africans that my 4C African hair is unmanageable.

[@lavernedelts2013]

@@lynnkandie343 I went to get my hair braided at an African shop and when the lady started combing my hair, I said let me do it bc I’m natural (she was using a fine tooth comb) she said “ your hair is too nappy” I walked out of the shop. The actual audacity. Smh

[@dukinhower]

The idea that everything has to be a "community" is a problem.

[@tinseltina]

people want community though, it helps newbies when there's a plethora of information as a resource and people available to get advice from. and then through different people comes different tips and skills that people can choose whether to adopt or not. personally i think the issue is hiearchies forming when there didn't need to be one. when someone gets too big, and people treat them or they themselves act like they're the authority on a process, that is supposed to be tailored to each person, that's where the trouble comes in. and a big part of why this community doesnt work is the antiblackness and colorism and texturism that was already present in the people creating and the people watching. instead of remembering to be empathetic toward's others situations, and checking their egos, people just carried on as they usually do and some of their scummy ideas bled through to their content, comments, and view count and it was further encouraged by the audience.

[@cuspofbeauty1402]

@dunkinhower Yes, that’s the exact problem.

[@Gross126]

And the comments these black women leave on each other’s videos. The internalized racism chile

[@trawlins396]

Agree. There is so much hate and negativity.

[@sashenkadumerve3017]

Naw Rudeness and Disrespect. We will never know if they have internalized racism or not 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@hopkins-mccoy5259]

We've been subconsciously trained to believe that whit hair..white whatever...is the standard for all races but diversity is great.

[@iantawashington-allotey9913]

In the seventies when Afros were in style there was no natural hair products other than grease. Why do curls have to be poppin? Natural hair is beautiful just the way it is natural. Example Angela Davis, Kathleen Cleaver. Beautiful moisturized Afro.’s I remember, Dax, blue magic, Afro sheen. That’s what my mom used and my sister and I had long hair. Most of this so called natural hair products are not even made by black people.

[@madreep]

I still use blue magic. I miss my tcb though

[@thedarkphoenix1640]

madree p What exactly is Blue magic!?

[@madreep]

@@thedarkphoenix1640 hair grease lol

[@lavondadebrito1178]

Truth

[@nnekaou4490]

Hair food!!!

[@FitBodyByAshley]

I hear you! Growing up I did not learn how to embrace my natural 4C hair because I feel like there is implicit [and in some cases explicit] hair shaming even amongst the natural hair community. I cringe at the fact that I used to wear ALL the wigs during my workout videos because I felt my natural hair wasn't "good enough" --- knowing full well I was burning up and bout to pass out. 😂 I'm definitely celebrating my natural hair and like you said --- doing my own thing with my hair now. Thanks for sharing, Ti.

[@patriciaduke5169]

Thank you for your videos. They have been so instrumental in my weight loss journey!!! You are a gift from God! And you’re beautiful!♥️

[@evertt7326]

So great to see my fave on my fave's channel! Great taste! Also, we (my sister, her friend and I) zoom to your video's and seeing you workout with your natural hair inspired our friend to cut her dreads off. They were thinning but she was holding onto the length. Now she feels so beautiful with her short natural hair. So a big thank you for inspiring her! Xx

[@AnalystAyi]

Love you Ashley

[@FitBodyByAshley]

SingPray Luv love you beautiful!

[@FitBodyByAshley]

EverTt aww that is so amazing! Sending love to you queens!

[@melaninspeakzout3639]

“Sum of y’all aren’t ready to decolonize your lace fronts” ....that’s a whole word💯🖤

[@GuacamoleKun]

I hate how movements that start as a way to get away from BS always seem to creep into some new BS. We all have our own paths to follow, some people need to realize their path is not the One Perfect Path. I love your hair.

[@nkechidouglas5541]

@Josephine Bournes 😃😃😃

[@lanatureestlartdedieu9591]

Josephine Bournes it does resemble that

[@epic7224]

Yeap because now ppl lile her feel they are so aboce everyone else and so woke lol.

[@LetsTalkAboutLaMode]

I LOVE StarPuppy, her content is amazing and she has a shining personality.

[@TheStarPuppy]

Well. I'm very late. But late or not, I still wanted to say that this video was a great watch 🙌🏿🙌🏿 Certain points made really stirred up some of my past experiences hair related or otherwise. I really appreciate the shout out, btw, I gasped lol! 🤩 I'm toying with the idea of making an "honest thoughts on the natural hair community" video, not sure yet but considering.

[@summerbaby88]

Do it!

[@gaibriellahunter4173]

Yes, do it StarPuppy! I love you and I’ll be watching ⭐️🍿

[@misspapo3444]

So glad you got to hear her shout out. You really are the only 4c low density Queen making content right now.

[@veronicaclark2191]

Hi starpuppy i love your videos

[@4thTribeJudith]

Starpuppyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

[@melissah6235]

I am Asian so I am commenting looking from the outside, so just want to say that your hair is so beautiful!

[@_osame8645]

Thank you 🥺💖

[@deevah2450]

Yall not ready to decolonize your lacefronts ... I need that on a shirt.

[@Diamsraven]

😂 sis some of us like the break & the ability to change hair colour without damaging our own hair. Plus personally for me like she said finding weave that looks like a certain kinky texture is hard & personally for me a wig is for convenience & should be easy to manage whilst I take a break & curly wigs make me put in the same amount of work I be trying to avoid sometimes with my natural hair

[@radianceunveiled]

Me too!!1

[@TheKymDudley]

Fact.

[@chalabrooks5433]

😂😂😂 Chile, I was done.

[@khaliyahliyah6444]

Damn leave us alone tf.

[@Amanda-hu1ct]

“Colorism could walk so texturizism could run” that quote hit me, my goodness so true.

[@GoddessShekmet444]

Quote for the Ages

[@BcPrettyGirly]

"y'all aint ready to de-colonize y'alls lace fronts!" I LOVE IT! Yaaassssss!

[@LucienneintheDreaming]

@Tiffany exactly.

[@epic7224]

But you have videos of you doing weaves in your head lmao. And that looks like a weave on your head in your pfp too because that's not the hair you had in your videos. Lmfao the hypocrisy. Sorry but gonna call you out. I don't even wear wigs or weaves but this was ridiculous.

[@BcPrettyGirly]

@@epic7224 awwh...lol I just like this channel and the perspective. Didn't come to offend you with my weave or locs, or braids, etc. (lol) Lighten up a bit and thank you for visiting my channel to look at my hairs ;)

[@epic7224]

@@BcPrettyGirly I'm just saying you don't really have the right to be talking about others wearing weaves and wigs being colonized when you're doing it yourself. That's just hypocrisy. If you're going to call out ppl doing that, then at least don't do the same. I don't even wear them and I can smell the hypocrisy. Imagine someone who does and how they'd feel.

[@BcPrettyGirly]

@@epic7224 Oh! THAT'S WHY YOU CREATED YOUR RESPONSE??? lol, I'm so sorry I should have done better to identify that I was only illuminating what TI said in her video (hence, the quotations). I wasn't calling out anyone (I have far to many flaws to point fingers at anyone in the known universe). Naw, you just misunderstood my post. Also, it is difficult to identify reasons why anyone would make claims about themselves or others based on this (the internet) virtual representation of communication. I don't take social media to seriously (and neither should anyone else). Instead, just enjoy the freedom of expression while we still have it. I support this channel because I can appreciate the work that is put into developing content. I would support your channel in the same way if you were to begin uploading videos and sharing your perspective with those who might find it interesting...or entertaining! Life is short, love is lasting :) enjoy the passion of true expression ignore suppression!

[@flyingblackbird2126]

"Decolonize your lacefront" omg she goes in... y'all ain't ready. I wasn't ready. Loved it

[@SOULarLioness]

Based on the title ALONE, I agree.

[@mqgriffi]

Hello!!

[@colors4vana293]

Yep when i first went natural 7 years ago i tried so much crap following the community and I just didn't like my hair amd I didn't like dealing with it. As soon as I divested from the natural hair community my hair started growing and I have a routine now that makes it easiest to manage. I try to stay away from most videos though unless their hair looks similar to mine

[@eVaniwithaV]

Girl this video came right on time! I couldn’t agree more! I might do a response video to this on my channel! ❤️💯🙏🏾🔥

[@ktn9798]

Please do!!

[@uramazing_2475]

Please do!

[@LoveLaRieXO]

GIRL! This video is A SERMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "4C OVER HERE" and proud.

[@tiffonys3556]

Please do!

[@kitaroberson8763]

Evani!

[@julietwhiskey6987]

Beating edges into submission of straightness is violence. Every time I style my baby girl’s glorious 4-C hair, I praise her thick naps, kinks and coils as I gently detangle, part, and style her hair. I don’t remember my mother doing this for me but as a grown woman, I remember getting my hair braided by a woman in Atlanta who praised my 4-A naps, kinks, and coils as she did my hair and I remember how good that felt to hear my hair described as beautiful. In trying to break these generational curses, I’ll be damned if my daughter will grow up never hearing her own mother praise the beauty of her hair. And I know those chains are breaking because when I ask Baby Girl what she likes about her hair, she touches it gently and says, “It’s beautiful.” 🥰🥰🥰 Thank you for ALWAYS keeping it realer than real deal Holyfield, Ti.

[@erinsymone1645]

You are truly blessing your daughter. I'm so glad that some of us will come out strong and healed.

[@proverbalizer]

Ase. It is beautiful, and so is your comment.

[@thelocdvegan6770]

This is a great point!!! Thank you for this. I've always had a love/hate relationship with my hair because my mom considered my hair a JOB. My hair was long and bushy as a kid. She'd wash it on Saturday, braid it up and straighten it out on Sunday. But she hated it! As I got older and looked back on that time, I wish that my mom would said just once that my hair was beautiful. Hugs to you sis!!

[@tayooyinda1225]

I love this! I do the same. I tell my daughter how beautiful her hair is while styling it and she is always blushing. Then she sings "i love my hair'. Our little ones are soo precious😍

[@jillyfish72]

Thank you, I really needed this reminder😀they are precious and they carry those judgements forever❤️

[@amyaurion]

I'm white and non American, living in a medium sized city with not that many black people. I have very little knowledge of black hair but honestly - your hair looks absolutely beautiful to me.

[@semoneg2826]

True

[@lblack1961]

Truth. We black women have to realize that part of the problem is us. Renew our minds with every level of revelation that reveals we don't love our hair.

[@TheLily97232]

Yeah. Self hate is R.E.A.L

[@sirstanko]

Man thank God I love my hair 😍

[@elevatedvibes9769]

Max Estrada .. ok

[@khaliyahliyah6444]

How when we cant even get the same respect and opportunities other people get because we cant even wear our fucking hair to an interview or a good school. It doesnt matter how clean or nice our afros look. It's not about not loving your hair tf

[@misselaineous3591]

Linda B. Why don't we love our hair? Could it be the hundreds of years of colonization and indoctrination into believing that our hair is undesirable, that we have to adhere to the european standard of beauty in order to be accepted in this society. The problem is not us; the problem is what was done to us! 400+ years of enduring terrorism and no psychological treatment for PTSS Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome.

[@SheWhoRemainz]

Ok, can we all just agree, this girl is a unicorn. And her intelligence is as beautiful as she is.. There I said it!

[@tinagamble7755]

Exactly!!!!

[@pwettysherrie]

Big facts!! 🤩🤩🤩

[@lilyjr.1384]

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart ❤️

[@SheWhoRemainz]

@@decamc1435 Wow!!.. For you to assume that I don’t live in the Suburbs because of my opinion about the @Nappyheadedjojoba is “Yikes” .. So yes, shade was thrown. That being said: Each persons view/s of what they may consider unique or different differs from person to person. Just because you may see her as average or common, I find her different and engaging. That does not mean she the ONLY black female that fits this narrative. Nor does it mean I live somewhere where, where intelligence and beauty is lacking. Not even close to what you’ve surmise . @Nappyheadedjojoba has her own lane and she navigates it well. She speaks her truth and is unapologetic about her stances. And yes.. she beautiful as well

[@SheWhoRemainz]

@@decamc1435 You’re good luv. 😘. I appreciate you’re humbleness. Queen lifts queens, so we should never judge a another Queen by her crown!

[@Anonyme67]

I am african and I used to have my hair permed back home we don’t have that much hair drama. But living in the US I learned the power of natural hair from you African American women. You are naturally beautiful and you have very beautiful hair. You don’t need any one approval. Much love

[@sage_comics]

Depends where you are, in nigeria no peace for a guy with long 4c hair, the looks youll get just doing braids, not even dreads,

[@shirleyvz11]

@@sage_comics I am Nigerian and I only braids. I also keep my hair chemical free. It isn't religion for me,just got tired of all the chemicals. I don't get any looks.

[@sage_comics]

@@shirleyvz11 yh same , fully natural, all dah relaxer shit aint for me, and they dont know the spiritual benefits about it atall, buh they be dying over religions, and they are ignorant to the truth.

[@Ntjitube]

African too, we also did not have any hair drama, the drama started when the internet arrived. Right now we have weekly twitter debates about hair and skin shade lol

[@ngozio.9347]

@@sage_comics I’m Nigerian, American born and I agree on the way people view “dada” in the African community. Even when I went natural “uncles and aunties 🙄” would always have their business in stuff that doesn’t pay them, meaning ridiculing my hair until I commented on theirs.

[@KCelyce]

Ouch 🤕 . This was so real. I hated my natural hair and always wear wigs but you know what. Y’all will see my hair on my next video. 💚 thanks for this

[@AerialAssault87]

I think this is why there has been a rise in "relaxing my hair after ___ years of being natural" videos. I feel like these women went natural expecting some specific outcome and ended up disappointed. Sure, probably not all, but come on. I've been recommended so many of these videos this few months.

[@tee2716]

I never thought about that but that’s actually an excellent point. Seeing videos with amazing do’s and when executing it myself it’s like an atomic disaster is extremely discouraging. I don’t even attempt to do any fancy styles because 1) I’m not good at doing hair 2) I don’t want to spend too much time on a hair style that only last a few days 3) most of the style I see looks so stressful and my hair hates being tugged at too often I’ve been natural for 18+ years and my hair just does not want to conform. I’ve contemplated relaxing it on and off. thankfully I was strong enough not to give in. Because while everyone is having nightmares about their hair frizzing, it’s actually the thing I love most about my hair. I love the loc’d look it gets when I leave the two strand twist in for too long. Unfortunately I get the “girl you need to do your hair” or “it doesn’t look proper” talk from ppl especially family and it hurts a lot. Sometime just the look in their eyes make me feel ashamed. I have the kinkiest hair out of all the females in my family including cousins. But I love my hair just the same.

[@jess9722]

@@tee2716 i find the key to keeping type 4 hair tangle free is keeping it stretched and moisturize

[@tee2716]

@@jess9722 yes I find that too. Just simple misting and a protective style goes a long way into caring for 4c. We don't even need all those products to make it grow

[@selalewis9189]

This is a thing? I've worn my hair natural and relaxed over the course of my life. None of it changes the material outcomes in my life. Relaxed, weaved, braided, dreaded, bantu'ed, etc, capitalism and climate change are gon' kill all of us if we don't do something to stop it. But why do we seem to convince ourselves that changing our hair will change all the material outcomes in our lives? Our time could be better spent helping build actual political institutions that promote solidarity. Instead we keep thinking we'll find all this mystical power in our hair.

[@melonie_peppers]

I was relaxed for so long I didn't even know my texture. I was actually happy to see it. It's just like hers

[@mye7569]

She’s in the wrong business!!! She needs her own show, night show, comedy spot, SOMETHING!!!!! I love her sense of humor. I love her swag. I love her style!!! 😍

[@lagounamina]

and i am in love with her voice

[@Tiripsroirraw]

Agreed

[@shardaswitzer8271]

Right!? Her personality is everthing!

[@marcusellis6338]

Totally agree. Her personality is amazing. Kindred spirit. I would love to know her zodiac sign.

[@diamondcrown5684]

And a magnificent vocabulary

[@janicedelacruz3795]

It’s not a community for 4c women we still on the outside and that’s ok. Most black ppl hair looks like yours look at black men but somehow ppl think black women should have 3c hair. It’s stupid not just self hate.

[@TheIAmAwakened]

Naptural85

[@leas2477]

What people think you should have 3C? Like who said that to you ?

[@Hexmommy79]

people should just let women alone to do what they want to do with their own hair....especially black women. Its hair...why do they care its not on their heads.

[@fredrika27]

@@leas2477 My fosters mums when they were combing my hair, breaking combs, popping me with the broken comb because they were mad at me for doing something out of my control, getting pi$$ed because my hair took so long to do, cursing at me when I sweat and the pressed hair went back to its natural state, refusing to allow me to wear cornrolls saying it was ghetto, saying I look ghetto for getting braids like Janet Jackson in Poetic Justice--all while calling me nappy headed and saying my hair will never look good. Oh and not allowing me to have a perm as a child because that's being grown. I could go on all day! Worst comment I ever got was from a sorority that said I passed the brown paper bag test, but I wouldn't be one of them because my hair gave me away! I lie to you not!

[@suek819]

@@fredrika27 sending you love right now, also dealt with hair targeted bs and us as black women don’t deserve it all❤️

[@kellywynn9594]

I am a 54 yr old white woman who loves to learn new things on youtube. Watching you prep your hair was mesmerizing. And good for you, knowing when to move on with other content. You are beautiful. And my favorite part? "The more you know..." People need to remember how to be kind or keep quiet.

[@jasminepadgett3883]

*hair typing system is a whole lot like brown paper bag tests* and “beating our hair into submission”. Am I the only one who felt that? I use to watch only 3C and 4A hair when my hair was transitioning. But my hair didn’t start thriving until I began watching influencers with hair like mine. This talk needs to be trending!

[@louise-yo7kz]

Notice that makeup foundation shades and hair types places our section at the higher(lower) numbers. That is psychological warfare

[@permafrost0979]

@@louise-yo7kz how is it psychological warfare to go from light to dark? It's going from minimal to maximal use of pigment. Cake batter goes from light to dark when it baked, so does bread dough: from raw to ready; 1 to 4. I'm not offended, I just look for my shade 💅🏾. Are you suggesting the darkest should be 1 and the lightest 5, 8, 12, etc? Or coily hair as 1 and straight hair as 4? I guess that could work; but it's all arbitrary anyway. I don't associate lower number with better, it's just a list. If 1 were coily and 4 were straight, the argument could be made that the goal was to get progressively straighter. Why? Because, racism. It doesn't matter how we make the scale, racism will always make the blacker characteristics less desirable 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@jasminepadgett3883]

Monyette Paris I didn’t know my hair type at the time. I was “transitioning”. By the time I big chopped I already had favorite KZbinrs and their hair wasn’t like mine but I kept trying their methods. I finally stumbled across women with hair type and porosity like mine which made a world of difference.

[@jasminepadgett3883]

Monyette Paris Ok, now you’re just being rude. I said “I did NOT know my hair type initially”. This is suppose to be a platform of black women uplifting each other not disrespect. You can take that energy elsewhere.

[@yes_blackgirlslisten2rock489]

I use to do this with makeup gurus too! I only watch hair tutorial with women that have Real 4c hair and women that match my skin complexion. I am the same shade as you, maybe a half of shade darker if that makes sense, and it's hard for me to find my foundation match.

[@sadiM653]

I’ve also noticed the praise that biracial women and girls in the black community get for being biracial. No shade but many look like average looking people, the idea that loose curls and lighter skin makes someone more beautiful than the next needs to be thrown in the trash. You not getting praise over here for just so happening to be biracial I’m not into that self hate type of logic. I also feel like it’s a must that black women embrace our natural hair because it’s part of who we are and our power. Let em hate 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@raejones7160]

Yes sista! Thank you Truth!

[@2008MrsKim]

@@mazey921 THANK YOU !!! I'm biracial and I saw that comment and was like "oh no....here we go again"

[@TheOriginalMeanGirl]

@@mazey921 I agree. I don’t know where all of these women are. I’ve lived in three states in my lifetime and have traveled the world and darker complected woman all have these horror stories. It’s mostly media that is giving this false sense of inferior complexes.

[@WhyUGotStretchPants]

Desi How would you know? You’re not fully black. Just as I wouldn’t know if being biracial was more difficult, how would you know if being fully black is more difficult?I’ve only ever had issues regarding my hair concerning black people (I have 4C). White people complimented me all the time so I haven’t had the “fully black experience” I guess 🤷🏾‍♀️ but I respect your opinion and how you acknowledged that your opinions were shaped by your experiences. Same goes for everybody, even me. I’ve just been lucky enough to grow to love my hair. Have a great day!

[@jamiegurley4230]

Sadi M...Totally agree. I will always keep my locks. I feel biracial women at times usually switch to straight hair when they wanna mix in with the white community

[@jessislistless]

The natural hair community on KZbin made me take the jump away from relaxer. Growing up in Nigeria, where the colourism is tooo real, there was always a cycle. Get hair done for school, usually a prescribed braid pattern by the school, then relaxer, new hair, relaxer, etc. School's out or there's a party? weave or something "nice", relaxer afterwards and so on. African hairdressers, at least the ones I've encountered so far didn't even know how or want to deal with our texture. They'd call it stubborn, too much work and would always damage it. Combing it dry, and angrily like it's my fault. When I decided on my big chop at age 20, my mum didn't understand but she went along to the salon with me. Till today, she always has this strange look on her face when she sees my twa. I only do braids and protective styles now. Last week she helped me take out my braids and she asked if I needed relaxer even though she knows I don't use it anymore. It's her last resort. Luckily she isn't forcing it on me. I personally think she's also a victim of the whole make your hair look less black system in Nigeria. Even in Nollywood movies located in the rural areas of the country, in an ambiguous timeline, the characters wear wigs, some long enough to sweep the floor. Anything to not show the actors actual hair

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Absolutely -- I've had far too many experiences in braid shops where it legit felt like the braider just _hated_ my hair, and hated _me_ for having it. The rough handling was off the chain, and they'd suck their teeth once they saw my afro. It's happened to me with all different braiders coast to coast, with women who were from Senegal, Togo, Nigeria, etc. Anti-blackness really doesn't let us have anything nice, anywhere.

[@genemechanic6773]

Unfortunately, the causcasians community purposely made it the norm that white and soft & "manageable" hair equals purity and success: this has created a self-fulfilling prophecy among the Africans...hence the immense growth of colourism, relaxers etc. Its sad! Also, I did not know that school can enforce braiding patterns onto people...how ethical is this? What if one choose to wear their hair out.

[@jessislistless]

@@genemechanic6773 the braid patterns thing was to enforce conformity and uniformity just like our uniforms. All boys would wear low cuts as well or whatever the principal prescribed. Recently I learned a lot of school in Nigeria just tell the girls to have their hair shaven Not all parents can afford having their kids do their hair every week so that could be a compromise.

[@jessislistless]

@tea marks colourism is prejudice or discrimination typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group. This could be discrimination against people with darker skin, different hair textures, etc. You should look into that.

[@genemechanic6773]

@@jessislistless Thanks for the info - I genuinely had no idea! It's interesting that the uniformity has extended to hair...personally I think it is very forced.

[@cathylewis3967]

" Colorism walks so texturism can run " so astute, so brilliant!

[@Chmpgnkryssy]

I wrote abt this is my book. Tbh, most black women hate their natural hair, hairline and texture. Sadly, it starts at home with the, “Get your nappy headed a$$ over here!” and statements of the sort! Allot of self hate needs to be undone! So then ppl start chasing weaves, perms, & etc to them feel better abt themselves. I am a stylist and honestly I must say, after 20 yrs+ in the business, I am tired of explaining to ppl why their hair isnt gonna look like this picture they found on pinterest because they went a found a pic of someone who’s texture, length, and head shape is nothing like theirs! Find a black woman who looks like you and stop chasing the mixed chick look. I just cant! Great video!❤️

[@buttercupslongnails]

I totally agree when I was working in the salon industry black people be coming in with pictures of white people or biracial people's hair and then when they leave they will be unhappy cos it's not like the picture😂 Also I wanted to ask what your veiw on relaxer is? Personally I feel relaxer is a tool used to keep black women down. Like oh you don't have good hair use this so it becomes good hair but in actual fact it's weakening and breaking your already good hair so you will not have good hair ever and you will blame it on your race your heritage everything else aside from relaxer . As a professionals we know that relaxer can be extremely dangerous but consumers do not fear it as a chemical and only see it as a cream or hair treatment 🤔 I fully believe that African women here in Africa do not have the best hair because it's damaged due to relaxer. I only ever saw beautifully relaxed hair when I started my first job in the salon industry and that lady took care of the hair came for her retouched and blow outs once in a while but not everyone can afford to visit a salon all the time. I remember the first time I saw my friend relax her hair with no gloves no neutilizer just her and a cheap container of dark and lovely. This is how she did it she always had short hair then she went natural and her hair is recovering finally.

[@c.christinewatt7567]

Crap! Just look how many white women hate their hair! Way more than black women..psychoanalyse that!

[@c.christinewatt7567]

@@buttercupslongnails if relaxers are to keep black women down the process that white women use to give them tightly curled hair is bringing them down too? I was the only black woman living in a town of 16,400 white person's for years..I have yet to meet one that's happy with their hair or skin tone...and nobody wears their hair natural...stop acting like it's a black thing...that's just plain ignorance....guess you don't know much about any other ethnicities...

[@leggyladyus5]

@@c.christinewatt7567 It's not about comparing the self denigrating aspects of black and white women.....I marvel at how white folks are always inserted in convos when discussing and centering black women. They(whites) aren't the "default setting" for human beings.

[@lesleywilliams1717]

Lena Kendall thank you for saying this. Many people that lived in area’s devoid of black people or other people of color seem to feel obligated to reiterate common quotes, beliefs and views of those people. Those non black women that “hate” their hair wouldn’t trade their hair for ours...

[@muckraker80]

Yay! I'm so glad you linked to Star Puppy! I was here for your fitness content, became a big fan as your channel grew, then the algorithm sent Danielle my way. I don't have Afro-textured hair, but I have thinning hair, alopecia and other hair insecurities and Danielle just vocalizes what I feel. Plus she's a weirdo. I love weirdos.

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

The algorithms put me on game to her when she was still fairly new (I think under 10K, even!), and I couldn't believe they actually got something right, for once. 😅

[@DracarysSnow]

I discovered her by accident last week. Literally 2 seconds into her video, I subscribed. We don’t have the same texture, but I enjoy her videos

[@graetrinity1724]

The insecurities are so real, I'm 17 now, and when I was 13-14 looking up hair videos I think this was the time a lot of non 4c folks realized they could make so much money off of new naturals like me. When I tell you I used to cry so much watching people who claimed to be 4c do things with their hair that my 4c hair could not. And i was so sad that I did not have "good hair". Eventually I did find people with hair like mine, like Chizi Duru, Starpuppy, Nappyfu. I'm so happy there are actual 4c youtubers, and in general I'm happy that people are realizing, their curls don't have to pop, their edges don't have to be slick, and their fros don't have to be huge. Edit: I used the wrong "their"

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Yes! I do hope that we continue to see more YTers who have normal or even light density 4c hair, and in short, medium -- _all_ lengths, really. Representation really does matter!

[@melteddarkchocolate000]

you should watch OnlyOneJesse she does 4c hair type videos as well

[@miniminott48]

@@melteddarkchocolate000 OnlyOneJess doesn't have 4C hair. Her hair is 4A/B.

[@BlackCherryBabe]

Kandidkinks is good too. I was there too but after a while I just found my own routine and watch to support the ones whose personality I vibe with. Figure out your hair yourself.

[@melteddarkchocolate000]

@@BlackCherryBabe ooh whats your routine I'm curious to know

[@Lizzyfl]

The “pimp named slick-back” reference made me follow you 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CC-in4xr]

I have never subscribed to other hair channels who didn't have hair that looked hair like mine. It just didn't make sense. Your hair videos is how I found you. Your tips along with your gorgeous hair helped a lot me when I decided to go natural. 🌼

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

I would subscribe to folks with other textures _sometimes_ (like Whitney/Nap85 -- but I think errybody watches Whitney 😅), but for the most part I've always been the same way. And there have been some great YTers with 4c hair who have come and gone, over the years! I just think that, like me, they realized that even though there's a lot of us who have this texture, most people would rather look elsewhere. Folks still out here wishing they had hair like Chilli, instead of loving on what they got. Oh well! 💜

[@mariefs.]

same - it really doesnt make sense to me

[@IntuitiveReadingByPriscilla]

I have many 4c channels I follow I have 3c 4a hair but still get great tips that work for me I fact I think the videos I love the most are 3 people with 4c hair..it’s not that deep people relax

[@perfectDOE]

I went natural at 12 so it's been 21yrs. I never felt a need to make an identity out of it or compare curl patterns. This whole natural movement makes me want a perm . 😂😂😂😂

[@Julia-lk8jn]

And there you have the natural reaction to a zillion people telling you what to do with your body. Be wary of empowering movements which turn into collections of "details of your body, and ten ways to fix them".

[@didi6617]

Okay, I don't wanna offend nobody. I am not american, I am european white woman, and I have a question. Why you say "natural" only for the curly hair? Why I almost never hear "natural" for more of a straight hair or wavy. And why this is only used for black people? Can I use "natural" for my wavy hair, or for a person who doesn't have curly hair and it's not a black person. Again I don't wanna offend no body, just don't understand that, pls explain me, I will be thankful. Thanks ❤ P.s: I love curly hair, especially 4C hair 😍

[@suek819]

@@didi6617 We call it natural because we were told not to keep our hair that way: to burn it, chemically alter it, or hide it. To go natural means to go back to our “roots” which most straight haired European people do not have to do. If you are white but have wavy hair and are reverting back to wavy hair (if you straightened it before) it makes sense to call it “natural” but this isn’t really your movement. There is a movement for majorly white/other races of women with wavy/curly hair called the “curly girl method” which you should definitely try and look in to❣️

[@didi6617]

@@suek819 oh thank you for the explanation it was very helpful 💗

[@Talldoll1]

That's so cool! I wish my mom had done it for me. I was scared to go natural... between 2007-2009 I thought the movement was only targeting girls with "good hair". When I realized that it was "trying" to target me (looking back it was a bit suspect)... I was so.excited to finally join a community who would let me be me. The natural hair "community" has been one if the biggest let downs in my life. BUT, I did learn one lesson... I choose how ti love and take care of myself, I don't have to go by these insane rules.

[@ebonyharris11]

She put into words the exact thoughts I’ve had about naturals on KZbin. The insane gobs of leave-in and gel just grosses me out. These women and men claim to love their natural hair, but are still going above and beyond to change it. I literally watched a review on a gel product, and the KZbinr gave it a bad review and wasted a whole bottle of product because there was a TINY bit of frizz in their hair. Why is every single curl supposed to be perfectly defined???

[@sage_comics]

Fr, out here in my country nigeria its way worse, only a hand full of ppl like my fro, its ridiculous, cus its 4c means we shud cut it.

[@epic7224]

Nothing is wrong with gel though. I personally have to tame my frizz or else it tangles and the tangles lead to breakage. But I do agree that every curl doesn't have to be defined and you don't need so much gel.

[@eveemcghee4454]

@@epic7224 is that the problem? i hate the idea of putting any gel let alone a bucket worth in my hair, but is the point to prevent tangling? i literally wont wear my hair down because it tangles.... is gel really the answer??!?!???!

[@epic7224]

@@eveemcghee4454 for me it is, yes. Gel helps my hair not to tangle. I'm not sure if it would do the same for you because ofc all hair isn't the same, bur you can try it. You don't need a lot of gel either. Just enough that it reduces frizz.

[@shai2137]

@@epic7224 I'm back to being natural and I dont think i'll touch gel again after using curly curl cream, or at least not for a while. I hate my hair being crunchy lol

[@phyliciapatterson910]

Thank you I thought I was crazy. My hair is 4c and some of these suggestions do not work for my 4c hair. If i detangler with twist or Bantu knots my hair laughs at me. Ain't no curls in my kinky hair

[@kkb892]

😂😂😂😂 I felt this!

[@iamapieceofcandy]

Lmaoo same

[@tamora.monique]

True true true! Listen, as a hairstylist this texture ignorance also negatively effects the expectations of a client that say they want to go natural. After a great consultation and clear understanding of the required process and commitment, thing can still be confusing. Client wants natural curls. Client has natural curls. Her curls are not like Sally's curls. Ummm, no. Your curl is your curl. Sally's curl is Sally's curl. My curl is my curl. And I swear, I'm tired of the phrase, "good hair". Do you really wanna know what "good hair" is? Healthy hair. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@autumnsmom1117]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@SwaggooGam3r259]

Healthy hair!

[@loveystar78cloud46]

YES!

[@tab5567]

Exactly! Took my teen for her first curly style. Stylist said the same thing. Your curls are yours. Accept how they look and what they can do and save yourself the stress and learn to love your hair

[@marzipan2555]

you keep on talking about how your hair isn't that great but idk, this hair is goals imo

[@marlak4203]

yeah i don't get that either. She needs to stop reading so many comments and pull back from watching so many hair videos or simply STICK to the ones that have the hair texture like hers.

[@milliebutterfly]

Exactly

[@lynp5988]

She tripping. Her is very thick compared to alot of naturals.

[@marlak4203]

@@lynp5988 Exactly. Maybe she is going thru something or thought that by now her views and subs would be a lot higher than it is. Idk. Some things don't make sense, imo.

[@RebelforaSpell]

I know right. Beautiful healthy hair is what I see. My fine hair always look like a tired cloud.

[@cheriemichelle7571]

Somebody is gonna be offended by this video but it's the damn truth. YOU are the truth and I love it.

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Someone is always offended by literally anything. 😅

[@DiyWithCrystal]

So true! Even in the natural hair community, there's this idea of "good hair". It burns me up. Part of me being natural is embracing me, and being my most authentic self. For so many years, I bought into the idea of "taming" my kinky, coily hair and manipulating it into something else, others thought was more acceptable. Letting go of all of that and just being happy with what God gave me, was so freeing. When my hair was shorter, it wasn't looked at as "nice". Then when I grew it out, my hair attracted a lot of attention. Like how can hair like that grow. And (now that it's so long) why don't you straighten it. Whatever the case, I enjoy my hair, and my daughter who's my hair twin can see me and be proud of what she has.

[@jasminesmith8009]

I am a 4c girl and I am on my second year of going natural. I really needed to hear your words. I really thought for the first year that my hair texture was so ugly and I would envy girls that had what I considered “good hair textures.” Now I am on my own journey...and I love my own path so much more than trying to get on everyone else’s path. Thank you!

[@KHandy-ss9rl]

Same... this came right on time for me cause I was debating on putting that white crack back in cuz my 5c 😋 is so hard to manage. I've always had perm until now so my natrual is new to me.... ugh

[@reginek.7042]

"This obsession with laying the edges and slicking them down, is culturally and psychologically just as toxic as a perm. It's one thing to just LIKE the look, but people are OBSESSING over the look. Some people tend to become way to pressed about these baby hairs and how they MUST look a PARTICULAR way.".......@nappyheadedjojoba I couldn't agree with you more! You were preaching facts in this video!

[@dar6500]

They actually are selling toothbrushes labeled for just that purpose..we used to use Let's Jam or Nu Nile for that hairline..not edges. I hate that term. It's straight 'hood.

[@maplesyrup6052]

@@chosentheempress right?? I could never gel my baby hairs on my forehead, in my opinion it looks very stupid

[@agathabrowne]

I'm of the opinion if you're not a baby you don't have baby hair.

[@i_Ambrose]

@@agathabrowne its just a cute way to say receding hairline

[@unapologeticbabe2678]

@@maplesyrup6052 Same thing for me .It never works for me .It don't lay down. So doing edges is a no for me.

[@SisiYemmieTV]

No lies told in this video. I prefer wigs that look like mine. 4c. I think. Like yours.

[@brittneymarie142]

Yes! If you weave wigs or weave that looks like yours or ours I don’t have a problem with it. It’s just the straight hair gotta go. We can not cry culture appropriation among white people wearing Afros wigs and our styles, but we wearing straight hair. I personally never seen a FULLY BLACK OR AFRICAN with STRAIGHT HAIR. It’s not even possible, but they saying it is but it’s rare. I feel like people are saying that just to feel better about there hair I guess saying it’s naturally straight when it’s CLEARLY permed. But yes I am a black woman and natural that does not like straight hair on us when it doesn’t match, I also haven’t straightened my hair since I transitioned or apply ANY TYPE OF HEAT for the past 3 years or longer. It’s like saying black people can have bright blue eyes and I don’t think it possible either when you consider the body organs that produce our eye color and skin, and genetics involved and how they work NATURALLY unless you ACCUSTOM your baby and your leaving that out. 💯 Oh yea and if anyone wants to bring up having to straightening because of discrimination at work or etc. , my Afro is HUGE now and never got discriminated against my hair. you have to have that attitude and confidence like “I wish a N**ga would”. People know when people are secure with themselves and when they’re not. They will know not to approach you saying just anything to you. Also I think those days are just simply over and they know most of us is not going for it. 💯

[@pamelasantana3253]

Same, haven found a good one yet. The only reason why I even get a straight wig or anything similar it’s for two reasons only. 1) for winter, I live in Michigan and it definitely helps with the cold in the neck thing I hate hahah. 2) The wedding of a “ friend” that will take place next year and I dont plan to “slay” my hair with a flat iron. No thanks.

[@Cindy99765]

@@brittneymarie142 I have to respectfully disagree. Straight hair is not a feature limited to white people, as it exists in most Native Americans, Asians, and Arabs as well as select ethnic groups in Eastern Africa. Additionally, fully black people can have blue eyes, it's just quite rare; blue eyes after all are caused by a random genetic mutation from 10,000 years ago. They're just more common in white people because environmental factors in Europe favored other light physical features, such as pale skin and lighter hair. The CROWN Act was recently passed in CA and NY because of widespread discrimination experienced by black people who wore natural hair/styles in school and at work. I personally have seen school dress codes that explicitly ban "cornrows or afro puffs" in order to maintain a sense of "professionalism." You spoke about not experiencing discrimination, but that is your experience, and it doesn't invalidate the experiences of other black people in the West, especially those living in less diverse spaces. it was even an issue in the US military, and they recently (~3 or ~4 years ago) made the decision to allow female soldiers to wear multiple cornrows and have locs. While natural hair discrimination is *declining,* it is still quite present, and not just simply over. Personally, I rock my type 4 afro proudly after learning to like it in recent years, but that took a while because I was always expected to perm or straighten my hair to fit in more at school, and viewed my afro as something unlikeable. I don't have any problem with black people choosing to style their hair in various ways because the hair is on their head, not mine. What's important is why the straightening is happening--if it's for convenience's sake, work, or just personal preference, fine. But if a black person straightens their hair out of self-hate and/or because they absolutely despite natural hair, then that's an issue, and signifies an underlying factor.

[@TheMomLifee]

Just like when Adele had those Bantu nuts and people went crazy and crying culture appropriation.. i was 😕.. confused! Likw how they gonna say that when black women want to look white and carry white people hair all the time!

[@LadyLeoASMR]

Yes yes!!!! And idk about a baby hair on me or my daughter

[@soggypotato1]

I just want to learn how to do my hair without fucking up tbh 💀

[@busisiwemavuso2583]

I'm South African and when I first went natural years ago, I barely saw 4C Americans so I just assumed that Black/ African American hair wasn't kinky and only subscribed to African channels. Silly I know, but it took quite a bit of digging to find American 4C KZbinrs

[@proverbalizer]

This reminds me of a comment from someone who grew up in Russia. Who said he thought African American women were born with light skin whereas the men were born with darker skin 😂 If you watch enough Nollywood movies you might end up thinking the same about Nigerian men and women

[@firdowskruger9896]

Hi girl. Greetings from Pretoria 😘😘😘

[@dwaynesmith5666]

Firdows Kruger i love Pretoria!

[@busisiwemavuso2583]

@@firdowskruger9896 hey! Greetings from Soweto! 🇿🇦❤️

[@busisiwemavuso2583]

@@proverbalizer that's hilarious and sad because we know exactly why it would seem that way

[@danawhite4067]

“Colorism walked so texturism could run” WHEWWWWWWWWWWW THATS A WORD🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@Shiera015]

Bars! 🔥🔥🔥

[@bjniques]

When she said her hair is still considered "...crazy, wooly and wild." My mind said "but that's my whole goal" I am just watching this video and your hair drooling. This is my entire goal.

[@ambriaashley3383]

I like to watch StarPuppy for this same reason! Thin, 4c hair & she owns it while trying out different styles every week.

[@springfresh4344]

Ambria Ashley ♥️♥️♥️

[@LadyStudio1]

I wear wigs cause I'm lazy as f and this pandemic has made me even lazier. I also love that my hair gets two months of rest between getting new cornrows.

[@frenchryah221]

Or you could just wear cornrows. Maybe being “lazy” isn’t the only reason

[@ellen9925]

@@frenchryah221 you ever see a woman who's hair gets dried out from wearing it out in the elements? It's tough to take down cornrows daily and remoisturize so a wig sometimes gives women a hair break while helping retain moisture and length

[@lacasadelmango8712]

THANK YOU FOR THIS. No one really talks about how the natural hair industry is all about layering on products so you have the "perfect" curl definition. It's so harmful.

[@chand.4401]

"Noone was checking for 4C hair like that...........even when they had 4C hair like that" oooh Titi baby, dont get me started. I understand the backstories and the psychology behind it but even as a black woman, I still cant resonate with getting styling tips from a 3C woman when clearly my hair looks like yours with an even tighter curl pattern. If anything I would just watch those videos for ASMR purposes. Im with you on this. At 26 years old, I have NO desire in making my 4C hair looking like something else. Youre either gonna love this nappy beauty, or not. ❤️💯

[@jessicaaudate]

👏👏👏

[@liv-oy3vs]

4c hair isn’t nappy it’s good beautiful hair 😍

[@chand.4401]

@@liv-oy3vs Thanks my lovely

[@sandrafanning887]

Jouelzy made a video about this a few years ago when she did a three strand twist out and another KZbin with a looser texture had millions of views doing the same thing. It’s why she also stopped making natural hair content... it’s sad because I learned all about my hair on KZbin.

[@marlak4203]

but....that just...i'm sorry. That doesn't make sense. She stopped because her hair video didn't do well but some other random soft textured persons hair video did well? That's it? That's just...just not an excuse at all. That makes her sound and look jealous or something.

[@INAN2222]

@@marlak4203 "jealous" . .. . interesting semantics darling. Instead of jealous, how about, "observant"? Unfortunately, texturism is very observable on this platform,.

[@marlak4203]

@@INAN2222 Nope. No. Not buying that at all. Tho I am not outright saying they are but that it can seem that way, easily. "Oh this random girl is doing better than me so its other folks fault for looking at her more than me." Huh? That sounds right to you? Your going to quit something you've been doing for however many years because some people aren't giving you the views/support about it as much anymore. Ok so then why not go and see how YOU yourself can improve the situation instead of saying its someone/thing else? Why would that not be the first thing to do? Blaming someone else for your lacking and in this case they can't help that their hair is the way it is no more than she can either. Or? If some other type of videos are doing better why not just say that doing those kinds of videos are actually doing better for you than the other ones and so your going to do more of those kind? And too she's said she basically got tired of doing the styles anyway. I'm saying Things don't have to be so negative.

[@bronzefox9035]

I remember her too. There was another youtuber from 2007 that started with the two strand twist using shea butter. I had never heard of shea butter until I saw her channel. She alsi introduced us to Butters-n-Bars.

[@marlak4203]

@찰리자기야아 It isn't any of that. She made this video, posted it, left the comment section open so we all can give our opinions. That's what i am doing as everyone else. You too. And it still remains if people aren't checking you out anymore why wouldn't you look at yourself and see how you can improve? And in doing so if you find out its just a certain type of personality or whatever that people are going for moreso than change up what you do on your channel or change up and "fit in"(im not into the latter either). But still the point is there's no need to be so negative over some others that are doing well over something they couldn't help having which is no different than her helping what she has. Lol bitterness tho im not the one that made this kind of video. Smh

[@godlessheathen100]

The ex had hair like yours and this video was a sort of bittersweet, relaxing echo of all those times watching her do her hair. Thanks for that. :-)

[@125loopy]

"My hair ain't thick. I ain't got no edges" My truth.

[@RebelforaSpell]

😄😝my head big. I ain't got no edges either. Love herrrr

[@MelissaSmith-lk9dv]

Same!

[@DawnofA]

mine sketchy. My hair is thick but my edges are struggly.

[@hlobimbalyngubane4263]

Ahhhhh! that was supposed to remain a secret. But same sis😂

[@MusicLover2Eternity]

Sis said "SOME OF Y'ALL AIN'T READY TO DECOLONIZE Y'ALL'S LACE FRONTS" Whewwww!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Listennnn

[@creativelyanalytic]

Your hair is absolutely gorgeous, and I must be different because I only take interest in KZbinrs who have hair like mine. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@FreeSpiritMom]

A couple of years ago, it was hard for me to find people on KZbin with hair like mine. Now I see it all of the time and love it

[@wedsarta4345]

facts, when I went natural they were all I would watch. I noticed that further down the line once I started watching the looser hair gurus, I messed my hair up greatly. It’s very important for black girls and women with truly coily hair to watch people who have that same hair type

[@GFAprodite]

I Stopped Watchin', Because No One Had Hair Like Mine. I Don't Even Have 4c Hair.

[@lisagrant3853]

Needed this honest! The toxicity on certain platforms is crazy. You are truly a breath of fresh air. Everything you have mentions I have felt! There are still times I wish my 4z hair lol had coils. But in the end we all need to love/honor what we have, right. Your hair is gorgeous and there are tons of people that are aspiring to get to your point.

[@strawberryoats570]

I’m glad I went natural back in 2007 before KZbin was over saturated with looser curl types. The issues you speak about were definitely prevalent even back then, but less impactful imo because because I feel like the 4c and 4b voices weren’t being drowned out. I’m locked now and my type 4 hair is a godsend in that it helped my hair loc faster! Thanks for this content.

[@WealthofMyself]

This is the second time I've heard about leaving the natural hair community. I'm curious. Truth is I was natural before it became a thing and I'm always getting people stopping me to ask how I get my curls and when I tell them, they immediately say, "Oh, you must have that good hair." I'm like, "No, I have the hair on my head and I've spent time trying to figure it out and have learned how to make the most of it." They want to know what I use, as if product is the magic bullet. It helps, but it's not the only answer. Technique is key. And the two biggest lessons I've learned is: one, when switching from product to product give your hair a 2-3 week break from ALL products. Two, don't be afraid to spend big money. I pay $100 every 3 months to get a DevaCut I use primarily Ouidad haircare products as recommended by my stylist. My mom and friends think I'm crazy because they look at the upfront cost and say, "I'm not spending that much money on my hair." But Sis, you already have and you're still not satisfied. Look at all the twice-used bottles and jars of product gathering dust in your cabinet. Yeah I spend money (but I buy on sale) but I get the results I'm happy with and that you envy, so why am I wrong. This isn't to say anyone else should do what I do, beyond figuring out and doing what works for you. Oh, and love your hair and yourself without comparison.

[@Belihoney]

My exaaact same thing. Before I use to like the compliments on my hair because I thought it was just a thing of me objectively looking nice because I looked after it well but I restarted to realise the compliments had a bit of a insidious thing to it when they started to ask me to list the products I use to the last one. It was more of a thing of rather than complimenting what I have, it's more about complimenting me for what I DON'T have..

[@missjj09]

BelizeHunni omg they just “pretty for a dark skinned girl”d you. It’s a backhanded compliment like “oh you speak so well”. Thanks for sharing this prospective. I have had conversations with girls with beautiful hair like this where I ask for all the details🤦🏾‍♀️. I will keep this in mind the next time I come up on someone with “beautiful hair” and ask her opinion on this👍

[@IntuitiveReadingByPriscilla]

Me too I’m like natural hair community I’ve been natural my whole life lol

[@BubblezSmoochez]

It’s not just that Ti, the hair that looks like ours gets sold $400 and more. I’ve looked. They are very few companies that sell it but you are going to pay 💰

[@nappyheadedjojoba]

Yep -- it's hard to find, and when you do it's $$$ and (based on videos/reviews) the quality is always hit or miss.

[@kssews3166]

And "we" aren't the ones profiting off of it!!!

[@chantelcranford4958]

"Decolonize your lace front" Oof.

[@queenqb5372]

That’s a whole movement