Divide and Conquer v5 Ered Luin Faction Overview

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@Omuraisu0 Жыл бұрын

"You really don't get a whole lot of armour piercing" Augimund, you silly man, the entire archer complement of Ered Luin are crossbows!

@sebastianpfau1174 Жыл бұрын

Even if you just look at the melee-units you still have the Labourers, the Firebeards and the Tomb Protectors. Doesn't look like a deficit to me.

@danisrusski6297 Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianpfau1174AP meele is lacking since they are region-locked, but if Ered Luin got a middle-tier strike unit avalible everywhere they would easily be the best dorf nation and infringe on Erebors roster

@Sharky_Splitz Жыл бұрын

Ered Luin, easily the best Dwarven faction, and in my top 5 DAC faction.

@juanpedrowallace1117 8 ай бұрын

I ultra destroyed every time, how you managed to conquer stuff against angmar!

@TheMinarus 7 ай бұрын

Best experience is to accept or reject the rings according to you?

@miguelanessoares7039 7 ай бұрын

To accept the rings OFC. Othewise it gets too easy

@Owlr4ider 2 ай бұрын

I don't know, Khazad Dum give them a run for their money. Erebor is the weakest, on that we can agree. However Ered Luin vs Khazad Dum is more of a stylistic difference than a power difference. Ered Luin's Pike and Shot is very strong of course, but is quite annoying to micro to make sure your crossbowmen always have proper line of sight. Khazad Dum's play style is much more straight forward and their superior bulk over Ered Luin does come into play often enough. Also a recruit anywhere tier 3 pike unit vs a slightly stronger but only recruitable in 1 province(and after a lot of effort too) is quite a significant advantage in favor of Khazad Dum. Basically it comes down to how much you value the power of crossbows, which are certainly nice and all but are a bit redundant for Dwarves as their superb siege units fulfil the same role from a longer range and without line of sight issues(catapults) and they still have the reclaimers for some throwing axes. Also they do have some pretty solid regular archers which are much better than the crossbows in skirmish fights, which is where the Dwarves are weakest in as they have no good answer to enemy archers/crossbowmen other than mercenary cavalry or whatever.

@svyatoslav4289 Жыл бұрын

31:41 there was tests that shows - pikes (still raised) block 30% of arrows. So in TW games they have bonus versus missiles

@Augimund Жыл бұрын

If you could send a link to the source of that, I would be very interested in checking it out.

@einfachignorieren6156 Жыл бұрын

@@Augimund think i saw something like that in one of my History books, the basic ideas behind this, is all these Raised pikes, standing like trees increase the chance that arrows get catched and deflected, loosing energy during the process.

@jordinagel1184 Жыл бұрын

@@einfachignorieren6156yeah but that doesn’t necessarily translate into the game

@Tvalfager 2 ай бұрын

@@Augimund Pikes protect against arrows because the arrows strike the pike, not the unit holding the pike

@Tvalfager 2 ай бұрын

@@jordinagel1184 Thats the neat part about rome and medieval total war - it did translate things like that into the game. It also matters if the arrows strike the shield or not. Shooting at the shield flank of a unit is way less effective than back or weapon hand side.

@matthewburke1997 Жыл бұрын

Pikes are more resilient to archers and other missiles because they get a bonus to their missile defence, I believe it's +4. May only be in effect when spear wall is enabled, I'm unsure.

@brauni2558 Жыл бұрын

I think the Renown Trait gives you a public Order Bonus in Cities

@cambyses1529 Жыл бұрын

And affects bodyguard numbers. Very minor benefits though...

@jesseblade7924 Жыл бұрын

Note, You can Ally back with K and E, right after you accept the rings this will carry over. For the Vaults thing, You will need to send a diplomat to the daweren capatials.

@maxrander0101 11 ай бұрын

or do the vault script first you will just need to rush to it and rely on merc troops until the other Dwarven faction do send aid or if your smart enough and have enough armies within the area as in within the area of the reinforcement area around it then you dont even need them i had 3 armies on fully ranged one only merc sell swords the other a mix of Dwarven units with a few catapults for long range aid and i held them at the outside of the settlement with massed pikes and by the time my first rank of pikes fell the other armies were in combat and the entire enemy army was in retreat within a few more mins

@Owlr4ider Ай бұрын

Does the AI Ered Luin build the Great Vaults of Beleriand if they control Buzra Dum and do they get attacked by the Balrog if they do? For that matter do AI factions build other similar buildings like say the Bridge of Tharbad if they can?

@justinhuebsch1713 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a unit dedicated to thorin Oakenshield. Like Oakenshield warriors or something like that!

@johnphillips4708 2 ай бұрын

something I’ve always wondered about regarding DAC pikes is why the majority of them don’t utilize shields? historically most pike style formations used shields until masses firearm deployment. I would submit that putting yourself into the factions in game lore shoes you’d probably have a shield via common sense. plus, I think lore would support shields for pike formations, especially the dwarves who wouldn’t labor under the additional weight.

@liamcarnahan1346 2 ай бұрын

I believe it is because the engine can't. I could be wrong but a lot of the weird things are caused by the engine rather than a modders choice. It could also be a way to make the pikes at least slight less overpowered. Range units are one of the better ways to counter pikes.

@arthurie17 Жыл бұрын

You forgot the lindar marines in the unit overview in the end

@thehumanity3324 Жыл бұрын

Ngl Im not a huge fan of Dwarves (or EL's starting position), but this overview's gotten me very hyped. Gonna give their campaign a go!

@matthewturley9694 3 ай бұрын

How do you activate the assistance from Erebor/Khazad-dum for retaking Buzra-dum?

@ilari90 Жыл бұрын

The rings they get are a huge money buff.

@louisstemler5004 Жыл бұрын

Ty Augimund 😊 The new crossbowmen general's Bodyguards are Amazing! So hiping and strong. I was playing high elves last week, and Ered Luin accepted the ring. Then, after one turn, they attacked me with heavy late game army... A little bit overpowered.

@InfiniteWolfe Жыл бұрын

whats the difference between each dwarven faction? and what are campaigns like, i like dwarves in most fantasy games and want to start a campaign on this mod but dont know what each faction is about

@jordinagel1184 Жыл бұрын

Erebor is your standard dwarven faction. You have a relatively safe start insofar that you are right next to two allies and pretty far up north (in fact, the only ones to start even further north are the orcs of Gundabad, who will be your main early threat, and Angmar, who is far away). Your roster will be relatively well-rounded (minus the cavalry, of course), with a focus on shielded and shock infantry as well as axe throwers. Khazad-Dûm is more interesting, as it starts as a horde faction near Erebor and has to make its way to eastern Moria, defeating several scripted armies on the way before arriving at the ild dwarf hold itself. Once established, you can ally with the Anduin river folk, Lothlorien, and the High Elves, but will still have to deal with constant incursions by Goblins, Dunlendings, and soon probably Gundabad as well. The roster relies on very solid infantry, in particular shielded infantry. You will have more access to spear units, and have the best dwarven archer unit (as in, specifically using bows). Ered Luin has arguably the safest start of any faction, though as explained in the video you can choose to challenge yourself and attack your neighbors instead by siding with Sauron. It’ll make it a lot harder, but the alternative is fighting Angmar, then perhaps Gundabad, and once that’s done you’ll have more or less run out of enemies. The roster is laid out pretty well in the video, dominated by excellent pikes and crossbows. Hope that helps.

@maxrander0101 11 ай бұрын

@@jordinagel1184 or as Ered Luin just take the entire map just betray the other evil forces after taking the rings

@lawrencefish791 Жыл бұрын

Anyone know any strategy for Ered Luin I can't seem to expand much more to attack the enemies they seem to keep spawning with more and more armies and I cant get any rest to replenish my troops its my first time play MTW 2 and this mod.... also any tips on army comp and tactics please any information would help

@nunoalvarespereira87 10 ай бұрын

Expand to the rebel settlements right next to you including Barketta which is a Castle and a good border settlement to have with Angmar. Build your economy early, build all the buff buildings (Stone mason etc) and make Thorins Hall a commercial hub. Trade rights with the High Elves and all the other southern factions will help a lot. By turn 50 you'll be making a lot of money.

@Graywolf335 10 ай бұрын

Say, Agimund, what does "Buzra" mean? Most know that "dûm" is mansion/s

@joshb7857 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting these videos out I look forward to seeing them

@TheRewasder97 Жыл бұрын

I need some info on the scripts. Is it sure that Bree doesn't participate in the attack anymore? Is it true that getting those two elven and dunedain settlements stops their attacks? Lastly, getting those elven settlements will push the elves to get their defiance stack, does it spawn in Mithlond or Rivendell?

@XramBrain Жыл бұрын

I've tried the "pike and shot tactic" by placing the crowssbowmen within the pikemen's formation, but the crossbowmen just fire vertically. I hope somebody could give me an advice other than by flanking the enemy with crowssbowmen as what Galu said, crossbow units require micromanagement. PS. Thank you Augimon for continuing the faction overview, yours is the best by far for version 5.

@feelingpine9123 Жыл бұрын

I like to use inverted V formations with about a half units space at the bottom. The enemy bunches up stuck near the gap, sitting ducks for the crossbows to gun down.

@karacox6979 Жыл бұрын

Chevrons, checkerboards, weird spacing with terrain. You can't use literal pike and shot but there's many variants.

@oliverschoneck7750 Жыл бұрын

I usually place them so that the first rank of crossbow men are just in front of the first rank of pikemen that way they are covered by the pikes when in spear wall.

@XramBrain Жыл бұрын

@@feelingpine9123 Oh I havn't tried that yet. Thank your for that inverted : advice.

@XramBrain Жыл бұрын

@@karacox6979 Indeed, thank you.

@slavkoburic6030 Жыл бұрын

Reviews are great but man give us some fight on the end, wait for a minute or two so we enjoy it. 😅

@Augimund Жыл бұрын

Okay, I will do that for the following factions!

@slavkoburic6030 Жыл бұрын

@@Augimund thank you, we will follow you gladly

@sebastianpfau1174 Жыл бұрын

While playing as Ered Luin, I got a few messages about some relics that can be reclaimed. Can anyone tell me more about this? I am a bit lost now, because after I closed those messages I can't find the information anymore. I remember there was something about reclaiming Narsil by sending an envoy to the Dunedain. Is that still possible after accepting the rings?

@goryanadazaghal1206 Жыл бұрын

You Only get these after accepting the Rings, to get the Dragon-Helm of Dor-Lormin you need to go the westernmost small Island to your west with a Spy I believe it is then you bring the Spy when you get the Ancillary to Thorin's Halls, to get Narsil you need tosend a Diplomat to them and they will refuse you and you need to Kill Aragorn then send a spy to Imladris to get the Sword or if he is already dead then you need to send a Spy to Imladris and wait till you get a Ancillary or Notification.

@jeffbo7515 Жыл бұрын

Chivalry raises the troop moral. Command idk xD i think autoresolve results

@liamcarnahan1346 5 ай бұрын

Honestly think moral is affected by command stars.

@shogunego1187 Жыл бұрын

God i want a random start locatino submod! The only thing bothering me with this mod is fighting the same enemies over and over when playing my fav factions

@Blooticus Жыл бұрын

Man i love these overviews so much

@HaidDaSalami1 Жыл бұрын

I just took my FE, I’m assuming that’s what you got, good luck man!

@willc1294 2 ай бұрын

pretty sure there is something on that island, as in there's a recovering artifacts script later on where you have to send a spy there? Edit: Maybe that was earlier version like 4.0 or 4.5 can't remember tbh

@earlkoh216 7 ай бұрын

there is a huge bug with the elven assault on thorins halls. The army will do either 1 of 2 things. A) They will sit idly at the gates twidling their thumbs until the timer runs out B) An automatic pop up will say that you have won the battle 3 min into the battle and if you click end battle, the enemy army dies instantly. Its quite lame TBH

@jobvermeeren2542 6 ай бұрын

on pikes being resistant to arrowfire. it could be a remnant of the original phalanx formation from rome 1. The Macedonian phalanx would have the 4th 5th etc rows have their spears angled. they then blocked a lot of projectiles and arrows that were thrown.

@FallenCorp Жыл бұрын

When's release? from an old v0.45 player

@Blooticus Жыл бұрын

V5 beta is out

@FallenCorp Жыл бұрын

@@Blooticus Been playing Ago 2.0, much difference or wait for full release?

@joshkidd5463 Жыл бұрын

@@FallenCorp 5.0 has alot of scripts and ive found its way less buggy than previous versions, just alot of flavour. every faction apart of the goblins of moria feel complete

@bigthoughts2644 Жыл бұрын

Huge changes in the middlemen factions

@XramBrain Жыл бұрын

The full version of Version 5 is now available! :)

@alanmike6883 Жыл бұрын

Ered luin Is my second favourite dwarven faction after erebor especially when you choose to Go bad 😊

@Tvalfager 2 ай бұрын

Pikes protect against arrows because the arrows strike the pike, not the unit holding the pike

@johnphillips4708 2 ай бұрын

true, the Argead’s and the Diadochi’s pike formations would progressively angle the rearward / unengaged pikes so that when fully arrayed above the formation and swayed they would knock down many arrows.

@kckaz4453 Жыл бұрын

Well done, M8. Thank you.

@ZelZarKi Жыл бұрын

I was hoping the units of Ered Luin would have a much brighter blue to em and seem a bit too de-saturated as they are in this video. But this is still pretty cool.