What is the Oct Tone & who are the Glasgow Synth Guild?

[@SynthuxAcademy]

Great jam, Ben! Love the guild initiative. Instro are like a really good band, forming side projects to express their members individual visions. Inspiring as always.

[@DivKid]

Couldn't agree more! They've fostered such a supportive environment up there it's great to see.

[@Audiorial]

great module/presentation, thank you sir and the Guild

[@spaced4ace]

Such an exciting development and introduction. All the best to the Glasgow Synth Guild, I can’t wait to see what they build next. Cheers!

[@obakegaku]

The jams in this were class Ben!

[@DivKid]

thanks, appreciate that

[@sh4tzy]

Really nice initiative and cool module (re)design! Hard sync, mate :)

[@DivKid]

Thank you, there's a lot of hard work and support goes on up there. They'll do great things.

[@Gmartin4049]

love every thing about this

[@mikegeary8056]

I always wanted one of these. Now I really want this one. Gate per step is what’s up.

[@extractaudio]

Hard Sync! Those improvements over the old version may tip me over my buying threshold. Excellent video, like always! 🙏

[@DivKid]

Thanks for getting to the hard sync! haha. It's a nice update.

[@510th]

I literally just removed my qubit octone from my larger rack, last night..... Its great, but rarely used anymore by me and taking up that valuable HP... This looks like Instruo design... great overview as always. cheers!

[@PatrickOBrien]

As a huge fan of the Qu-Bit Octone (I have 3), this is very intriguing! Great vid Ben!

[@DivKid]

Thanks Patrick, appreciate it.

[@maxistork6060]

nice, i was looking for the qubit octone, but they are a bit too old, its nice to see these module back to life

[@channelite]

What a cool module!

[@izaakhollander2092]

HARD SYNC There's gonna be some rad stuff coming from the Guild in the future!

[@DivKid]

I'm looking forward to what the team up there can do as well as what they can offers others.

[@michaelgerdau5418]

It is a nice little sequencer

[@mcolville]

Oh interesting. I thought (and hoped) they were working on a revamp of the Tri-ger, but this is cool!

[@JHJLIM]

A prototype does exist 👀

[@mcolville]

@@JHJLIM Well you got ONE presold customer here! I, like a lot of people, thought the Tri-ger was brilliant but hamstrung by (as I recall) the absence of quantization? Or was it a clock-related issue? Either way, we'd buy it! Well, *I'd* buy it! :D

[@particle-dots]

at some point i want to get 2 of these Guild versions but for now I have got 2 of the Qubit versions, which seem to all intents and purposes identical in terms of functionality. would you be able to explain the differences between the qubit octone and the guild oct tone please?

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Ordered!

[@kennymester]

What's the relation of this module to the Qu-Bit Octone?

[@JHJLIM]

I designed both :)

[@JHJLIM]

Ben gives a great overview of who’s making it. (Glasgow Synth Guild) I also wrote a bit of blurb on the background as an intro in the new release’s user manual. In short, it’s the 4th module I ever designed. And I wanted it in my systems again. Contributing it to the Guild means it’s supporting a great team of makers :)

[@kennymester]

@@JHJLIM ah interesting! Is it possible to connect an Octone with an Oct Tone?

[@JHJLIM]

@@kennymester I tested it a few days ago to confirm, and yes it works. Doesn’t match aesthetically though 😂 Significant hardware improvements on the oct tōne as well ;)

[@ivana1755]

@@JHJLIMhey Jason, so you get to keep the copyright to your design and not Qu-Bit? Just curious I’m a little lost here 😅 great module btw!!

[@jaymurphy1306]

This thing is rad! If only those individual channel out jacks were pre-quantizer individual channel CV input jacks...

[@DivKid]

so you want it to be a sequential switch with a quantiser of the output of the switch?

[@jaymurphy1306]

Occasionally, for sure! Just to provide a CVable way to vary the notes of the sequence. Plenty of uses for the channel outs of course. Rad sequencer and wonderful vid as always! thanks!@@DivKid

[@DivKid]

oh I agree, that's a nice thing to have. A 'step' could then be an LFO that creates an arpeggio type ramp just on one step. Getting 'modular' by breaking down the bits that make a sequencer and patching your own leads to all sorts of great stuff like that.

[@jasoneskridge6453]

hey the GlasgowSynthGuild page seems to be down for months now. it asks users to login or something. any idea when this will be fixed so one can order an OctTone??

[@DivKid]

You can get them on - info (at) glasgowsynthguild.com - though I'm sure they'll get the website back up once they can. They're busy with all sorts of good stuff up there.

[@alexgrunde6682]

HARD SYNC One thing I wasn’t quite clear on: with the scale quantizing, what determines the root note of the scale?

[@JHJLIM]

That's defined by the oscillator. Voltages from the oct tōne are quantised over 0-5V, so if the oscillator is tuned to C at 0V then the quantised scale will extrapolate from there with C as Root :)

[@DivKid]

Jason beat me to it, but yes the oscillator tuning is the root. The way I think about it that helps cement the learning of this stuff was that the quantiser the available notes on the fret board but the coarse/fine tuning the equivalent of me tuning the string on a guitar. The fret numbers changes notes if tune the string down, though the patterns and intervals stay the same. I actually think quantisers that set a root note can be more confusing. At first it's easy to think, I'll take a F harmonic minor (or whatever note and scale type) but it's not those notes without tuning the oscillators to correspond to it anyway.

[@Avidencee]

Is this not the same as the QU BIT one?

[@DivKid]

it's made by the the original designer of the Qu Bit one, Jason was part of Qu Bit years back before moving back to Scotland. Building on those ideas, adding features etc.

[@craig_z]

So if I had an idea for a module, could the GSG help make it a reality? I have a subset of the skills needed for a prototype. Also, I love how the leds create an infinity symbol when you link the two Oct tones.

[@DivKid]

I would contact them to inquire as I aren't sure how much of the process they would take on, I do know they are already very busy with things lined up.

[@nilskozstum8256]

So is there a connection between the manifold research centre and the Glasgow synth guild?

[@DivKid]

Not sure directly with the guild, but yeah Aimo that set up Manifold Research Centre (was at least, I aren't sure now) was working with Instruo. He designed the Lion with Instruo too.

[@JHJLIM]

Hail the donut 🍩 Manifold always has a home at HQ. Before the guild was a guild we’ve been able to support Aimo with production runs. That collaboration definitely helped prove viable models of operation :)

[@CatFish107]

​@JHJLIM that's rad. Keep up the great work! And thanks for all the freebies in vcv rack. That collection is a hugely valuable resource.

[@jmsiener]

Dumb question but what happened to GMSN!?

[@DivKid]

I'm not sure where Rob is and what he's up to be honest. He came back as Equinox (blue panels, orange knobs if you saw those / remember those) then stopped again.

[@jmsiener]

@@DivKid thanks for the insight 🙏

[@felix.phoenix]

Amazing :D

[@DivKid]

Thanks a lovely team to work with and nice gear to use too.

[@felix.phoenix]

@@DivKid I've loved using the Ochd, and now the expander you guys collaborated on (Instruo.) I love seeing whenever you come out with something cos ya really bring utility into the spotlight. Can't wait to see your eventual module collaboration with with GSG :)

[@DivKid]

Thank you so much, I appreciate that. There's things in the works with the guild that they'll help with, hopefully not too far away from us sharing more.

[@bootshausk39]

So it’s like Xaoc Moskwa 1,5 :)

[@moloch808]

Imagine this but with proper pots

[@DivKid]

lot bigger, but yeah nice. Bit like some of the rotary 5U and 4U sequencers of the Frap Tools UTSA (a different thing) come to mind for those circular sequencers.

[@Grauskegg]

Isnt OCTONE... QuBits sequencer?

[@deadredeyes]

Jason used to make modules for QuBit in the early days before starting his own company, Instruo.

[@Grauskegg]

@@deadredeyeswow, didnt know that. I own 2 of the qubit sequencers.. had to go look. Well you do learn something everyday. Thanx for correcting my ignorance. Cheers

[@michaelgerdau5418]

HARD SYNC

[@DivKid]

Appreciate it :)

[@joeymc5272]

With tax around $700.00 for 2 im good eith my hermod+ lol

[@DivKid]

They're just very different things. Spend a bit more (or not even) and you have a laptop that is infinitely better feature vs feature than any Eurorack sequencer. Hermod+ looks great though I like what Squarp are doing, I've played around briefly but not had much time to get into it.

[@joeymc5272]

@@DivKid ya i don’t mean to fuss love instruo stuff but in order to really have fun with this you would need 2 and that is pretty expensive. I still love you showcasing this stuff. That lick with rings you did was dreamy as hell. Definitely try the Hermod+. There is so much built into that box its worth every penny. If you don’t like any menu diving though it is not for you.

[@JHJLIM]

The retail price is lower than its predecessor was. Keep in mind an averaged postage cost factored in so it’s included within in a single fixed price. Material costs and labour are all tightly calculated for viability. It’s all small scale batch production, but the entire operation is controlled and run entirely by the builders! Which is the model of the Guild. No middle man involved. The builders and future developers will directly benefit from this model. And it means the weirdness of what’s produced can be limitless! Lower risk factor and very fun to be part of collaborations :)

[@kosmikmusa]

8 = ∞

[@clopz9701]

First!?

[@DivKid]

Yes you are