DIY above ground pool hard piping

[@chevyguy-hf1yq]

Thank you for the micron lesson!! After 30 years of pooling I did not know. I DO put it through my sand filter and it def helps clarity. Did not know I could get just a dim filter. TY bud !

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Honestly I don’t know everything about pools. I mean the size of particles is something i deal with as an hvac tech so it just made sense to me. But im glad you found it helpful! Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@thomasweldonii5036]

Trying to watch a video to plumb my pool and now I'm learning science and rocking out to music over voices... I'm sure there's a video out there that could say what I need and show me how it's done without science or rock n roll over voices 😂😂 thanks for trying

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Yes we are aware of the “quality” issue of this video. Some things you just cant take back but we did make a new one in an effort to be a bit more helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oV7UaXSPhZxlj7s Thank you for watching and commenting, every bit of participation is appreciated!

[@TheSteadyGardener]

Thanks guys, I been looking all over the internet for a video like this. Basic and simple to follow along how to video. Now I feel like I can go out and hard pipe my pool. Thanks again.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

The Steady Gardener wow thank you, the whole thing worked out really well for Josh i hope it works out well for you to.

[@ThatCameraGuy98]

The Steady Gardener, If you notice, on the return line (eye), under the ball valve, we installed a "T". That is so we can add water feature in the future (like a fountain, water fall, etc.). I hope it turns out well for you! Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks 🤙

[@TheSteadyGardener]

@@TheRenaissanceBuilder im sure it will, it was so easy for you guys that you guys were able to do it while the kids were in the pool. Amazing!

[@kelligriffin3583]

Do you have a parts list, thank you for posting this video

[@dawannabrantley8127]

I'm needing to know what fitting are you using from the bottom of the skimmer & Also what fittings are you using on the return jet ?

[@jfer76_]

Totally here for the same info!

[@patc2515]

Damn, no answer on that? I'm needing the same info.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Shit I completely missed this comment thread I apologize. Both fittings are 1.5 inch male adapters. I did make a video that describes all the parts used here kzbin.info/www/bejne/oV7UaXSPhZxlj7ssi=Y-q5QIxDCvoStt3s Hopefully that helps

[@bonni66]

Finally an easy step video ! Thanks guys. I have to agree music too loud and Don't stand if front of camera... but thanks i am now going to try my new pump

[@Pittsburghfix]

Just did this, thanks for the video, very helpful!

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Awesome! Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@rjohnsoneod]

Watched your video. Hard to see exactly why your did some things but it gave me an idea. I am putting my filter/pump in an enclosure and wanted to hard pipe it. As I am taking measurements for the pipe I noticed that the side walls of the pool (30' above ground) swell and contract a little. I am afraid that the pool will want to "flex" and cause the hard pipe (or the pool) to leak. I am adding a section of soft pipe off of the skimmer and into the intake to allow for movement of the pool side walls.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Hi John thank you very much for watching and responding! So theres two ways to deal with flex and vibration in piping. The first and most obvious is what you are doing with the section of soft pipe, I recommend a fernco coupling because it allows flex and dampins vibration while still adding to the pipe structure and can replace one of the unions as a fernco can be taken apart with less effort. The other idea is called an expansion leg. If youve ever seen a long run of pipeline yull notice a spot that looks like they had to go around something, that is an expansion leg. By cunstructing your piping in a manner that uses more than on joint and longer risers that allows the pipe and joints to take up the flex and dampen vibration. The first method is more “common sense” and easier to understand and empliment for sure so that why i added a fernco to the follow up video, check it out it might help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oV7UaXSPhZxlj7s Again, thank you very much John!

[@tommydonoghue9128]

Do you have a supply list of what is needed to purchase for pvc pipe and fittings

[@mggp23]

I need a parts list. I have a sand filter, salt water system and electric heat pump. I want to set it all up and think I need 4 unions, and 6 shut off valves along with all the PVC. Does that make sense?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

The reason i dont have a parts list up is that every system is different. At the least you will need two isolation valves and four unions and six 90’s. Beyond that its up to the system requirements. I really do need to make a better video about this.

[@philstucker1312]

You guys did a nice job. Better positioning of the camera would made this a GREAT video. Can’t see through you guys

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Thank you and yes, i do realize the positioning is crap but its all learning for me. But what means the most to me is that great people like take the time to respond and help me out! Thank you very much I really do appreciate the feedback!

[@davidpiro3124]

Great video guys.. I'm getting mine started next week.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

David Piro right on boss i hope it goes well for you! And thank you

[@cavyboy99]

What do you do when the winter comes

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Hello and thank you for watching! So the unions and valves are there for exactly that, they make disasembly and re assembly for winterizing a sinch. Might even be easier than the flex hoses.

[@cavyboy99]

So is the valves just screwed on. Not glued on. So you can't twist them off instead of having to cut everything off from being glued

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

So the valves are glued in, the couplings are a threaded connection and all of the male adapters are threaded.

[@cavyboy99]

Another question can you just put that DE filter media inside a sand filter instead of sand. Or do you gotta use a DE filter

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

So DE is a smaller particle than sand, I recommend double checking with your local pool company to be sure. But im pretty sure DE can wash through a sand filter.

[@donvin999]

Love the project, but lose the music.

[@mggp23]

lol- just needed less volume on the music and more camera work on the piping. LOL

[@dexaler9008]

@@mggp23 Volume down button took care of the music for me. Can't move the camera from here though!

[@meekscrew]

Late to the party here but I'm about to attempt this on my setup. Have you done any more of the "further expansion" utilizing the additional ball valves? And what's the purpose of the tee you've capped just upstream of the return nozzle? I'm also looking to put a salt setup after i verify I can recover this abandoned pool so I'm still contemplating my piping downstream of the filter.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Brandon Meeks so the T is i. The supply line and is the access point for any future expansions. We have not expanded yet mostly because Josh hasn’t decided what he wants to do next. The purpose of that many ball valves is to make disassembly faster and easier for winterizing

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Brandon Meeks throwing a subscribe on the channel would be awesome. We have some pretty interesting content to surf through 😁 Thank you for watching

[@meekscrew]

@@TheRenaissanceBuilder sub'd and liked. Nice work!

[@alisalehi100]

Is it possible to let me know the measurements of the pipes so i can go to homedepot and buy them . Your video makes it so easy to do

[@skilo81]

What is the piece called or purpose of the fitting you used at the 5:30 mark?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

So i think you are referring to the union, a union is a fitting used to make taking the system apart easy and repeatable

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

For example when we winterized this because the unions are there we were able to very simply taking all the piping apart and drain everything

[@skilo81]

@@TheRenaissanceBuilder Thank you sir!

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

You are most welcome and thank you for watching!

[@marcycline8104]

I need to do this. Thank you

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Thank you very much for watching!

[@davidpfingston6005]

Does the filters discharge line need to be under water line?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Not necessarily, but it doas make less of a mess if it discharges under water. I mean you can make a water fountain out of it if you want its all up to you.

[@dameronlyon6740]

What's the pipe that goes to the motor called?Is it just a compression fitting?That's my issue,I cant find that pipe

[@LJA46]

I was planning on doing this this year so my only question is have you found a fix to open the return eye on the pool? That is a tremendous restriction also.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

LJA46 well i may be misunderstanding you but the return box and the supply nozzle are all unrestricted all the pvc is sized to adapt to the existing fitting and the upsize to minimize pressure drop through piping. If the single supply nozzle is to restrictive on your setup then adding additional nozzles is pretty easy. If you want equal flow to two nozzles I recommend pluming the supply to the branch side of a T that is central between the two nozzle with equal pipe and fitting count between the two. Or throw them in however you desire and regulate with linear globe valves. This single nozzle settup is enough to turn that pool into a slow cyclone and the pump is within amps operating range.

[@blakeeiu]

The hose seems to absorb a lot of vibration, does hard piping transfer this vibration to the pool wall, or does it reduce the vibration over all?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

blakeeiu we did not have any notable vibrations, i would say if your system does have noticeable vibration you may want to address that first. That being said.. Adding mass to a system does change the frequency and amplitude of a vibration but does not eliminate it. If it were a problem a vibration arrestor could be used as well, ironically enough that is usually a short section of flexible piping.

[@surgicaltech8678]

What type of pump is that? Where did you buy at

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Its a standard pool pump that came with the pool. I would recommend going to a pool contractor to ensure whatever pump you need is correct for your application. And thank you for watching!

[@alsjka]

Be nice to have a list of fitting sizes.

[@alsjka]

I’d offer a virtual six pack for em’

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

This is a great idea, imma work on it! Thank you for your input and be sure to subscribe to see how it all continues to work out

[@dawannabrantley8127]

Yes please share the fitting sizes

[@woofy548]

Did you use regular cell core pipe, or solid core?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

So its just standard schedule 40 pvc pipe

[@mrzif0013]

what is the parts list for your job?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

I am putting a list together, il will put it in the video notes. Thank you for pointing that out.

[@mskeakitty]

Great job. Thank you for sharing.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Debster thank you for watching, be sure to subscribe for more videos like this one!

[@flmoseley8141]

For the past 3 years I've had that flexible tubing laying all over the ground and being that I have a heatpump on mine as well it's been just one big spaghetti mess with the inevitable leak on occasion. Well I'm having to replace the liner right now and because the electric bill gets so high in the summer to run this thing I've broke down and ordered a pentair variable speed pump for this thing that set me back nearly a grand but hopefully I'll get it back on energy savings. When it comes in I'm gonna hard pipe it just like you did. This shit's getting expensive just so my wife can swim in it 1 day a week. All because my wife wouldnt agree to a hot tube instead of a pool and guess whose getting all the heart ache and paying for all this stuff not to mention all the daily maintenance. If it sounds like I'm dead against pool ownership you would be correct. Nice video. I do have a question. It looks like the return on these above ground pools are set up to accept 1.5" flexible pipe. Did you need a adapter to change it to 1.5" pvc pipe or did you change out the return?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

FL moseley lol great story boss! The 1.5 inch flex line connects using the same 1.5 inch npt threads as standard so all we needed were 1.5 inch male adapters

[@twowheelsforlife]

What filter did he say he switched to?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

diatomaceous earth is s much finer and filters down much better. The pool had an algae problem but changing to the diatomaceous earth filter actually cleared out most of the algae

[@ac325ci]

On your initial connection from the skimmer to the pump, why do you have two shutoff valves? also why do a turn , couldn't you move over the equipment ?

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Al Ac we left the filter where it is to leave room for future saltwater equipment on the pad. The two shutoff valves and unions are to make future expansion and any other work they may need to happen

[@rhdtv2002]

Great job..wish you guys did mine..

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Thank you Rich the praise is very appreciated. I hope your turns out well its really very easy to do on your own. If you have any questions feel free to ask. If you like i live stream every Friday night on Facebook, feel free to drop in with any and all questions. Its The Renaissance Builder Facebook page every Friday night at 8:30pm eastern

[@roopalee78]

Great video!

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Rupali Dalal thank you baby

[@roberttavenier1300]

If the dummy would stay out of the photo it would have been a good video .

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

I 100% agree with you, but i tell ya what, stick around I promise you they get better.

[@ronholterman743]

Music to load, and someone was always in the way

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Yes I understand, thank you for letting know and thank you for watching I really appreciate your support!

[@Keylohz]

Get rid of the algea with a flocculant. Only way with a sand filter.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Oh thats good info, i am going to look into that! Thank you very much

[@Keylohz]

@@TheRenaissanceBuilder Had the same issue this year! Cleared my pool up in 2 days from dark green. Add floc, run pump 2hrs. Let sit for 12hrs. Vacuum bottom and repeat if necessary.

[@JoseMendez-vg4pp]

Awesome video

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Jose Mendez thank you sir

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Jose Mendez be sure to subscribe to see more like em. we are planning a water fountain for that pool as we speak

[@joelamy67]

Other than the obnoxious music, not really being able to see what you are doing, I notice that your electrical outlet is less than 6 ft from the side of your pool. Is there a mandatory distance in your state? Did you have to electrical bond your pool? Is your skimmer and pool pump grounded? Just questions I have. I am not trying to be rude or prove anything just looking as to how others do their individual pool setups. Thanks .

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Josh can answer this better than me but ill try. The pool does need to be grounded and the pump motor but the rest is plastic so its fine. The outlet I believe the were more interested in waterproofing or isolation than distance but im sure there is a minimum distance. Thank you for watching and asking!

[@evacameron8670]

music too loud and can’t hear the people

[@avidesai8407]

Kira with the starring role

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Avi Desai she is the boss

[@Brewskiirider]

Back ground music to loud hard to concentrate on his words

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Tony S thank you for the input, we are working on that problem

[@juanorozco8011]

Why didn't you just run straight PVC to the skimmer with one 90. Move the pad over. every 90° elbow you put in your plumbing is equal to 10 ft of PVC and that's just more that the pump has to work to push water.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Thats a good question and an accurate statement. Primarily the decision involved accounting for room for future saltwater equipment on the pre existing pad, otherwise you are correct one less 90 is more efficient. That being said, the cumulative head loss that was eliminated more than made up for a couple extra fittings.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

And thank you for watching we appreciate all of our viewers!

[@bobcoy7089]

The guy standing in front of the other guy who's working so you can't see the work how does that make sense.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Sry boss im still learning all this filming stuff. But thank you for watching!

[@aliceinchains5243]

Sand pump and pvc makes for easier doins

[@sdiaz824]

Sorry I couldn't catch the type of filter you got because you turned your head and didn't heard the name of it.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Yea sry bout that Its called a diatomaceous earth filter. It was a huge help and actually removed most of the algae before we even shocked the pool Definitely recommend it

[@justingregory2731]

Its a hayward de filter

[@KellyFisher-p3s]

It's a shame we can't see any of what you are doing because the camera is in a horrible spot.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

I understand, we made a newer video to make up for this one being less than ideal. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oV7UaXSPhZxlj7ssi=9e233TFuIrd5hkDU

[@hopechannelcat5462]

it would have been nice if you would have showed what you were doing and any adjustment or parts needed to make this happen. cutting, gluing and someones rear in the camera. no details. work on it, show it, and explain it while you're doing it. sorry for the negative feed back.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Please don’t apologize, i know the video is not great and I appreciate all feedback. I have been working to get better and i think my latest vids show that. Again thank you for taking the time to help, I appreciate it!

[@warrenranstrom4462]

You should never hard plum a pool like this. The pool flexes with use so you need flexible line to the pump and from filter to return

[@ThatCameraGuy98]

Lol, this has been working for years. If you have vibration that bad, you have bad parts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bazasmith]

Wanted to watch this and learn - but all I saw, mostly, was your backsides and no commentary on the HOW of doing this - I’m sure you’re both very good at what you do (and the micron lesson was very welcome) but as a newbie DIY-er - this taught me nothing. Sorry

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Im sorry to hear that. Im still learning the video stuff even after several years. There is a follow up video i made as a parts list/tips, maybe that would help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oV7UaXSPhZxlj7s Thank you for watching and commenting and hopefully you do find what your looking for

[@bigcubanc3880]

Turn down the stupid music so that we can listen to

[@quietlyliving]

cant hear what your saying !!!

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

I apologize, it is not a great production. I am still learning allot about making videos. Do you have any questions i may answer for you?

[@marilynward]

All I could see is your back side and horrible loud music that was overtaking the voice. Had to just quit watching and find another video

[@RogerSummers-g4u]

Nice job blocking the view!

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

Thanks, i tried really hard to get the blockage just right!

[@guidoitaliano7722]

WTF could not see what this vid was about! Please no more videos.

[@thisdude9033]

It would have been helpful if you actually showed the fittings in what you were doing

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

I agree, the video is not our best work to say the least. We have made updates since then and I believe our video quality has improved allot. Thank you