DIY Airsoft GreenGas (Propane) Refill

[@thunderkraken]

Having worked in the LPG industry for 25 years my advice is over filling any LPG cylinder is a VERY BAD IDEA, they are filled to certain amount for many reasons the main one being SAFTEY Advice to the video producer- if you fill to the same weight as you purchased the original cylinder you’ll be safe enough (the volume of propane liquid in your cylinder will expand the warmer the ambient temperature is so : overfill cylinder on a cool day to say 95% full, weather gets warmer, liquid volume expands and now cylinder is over 100% full = cylinder relief valve leaks to stop cylinder rupturing) good luck - stay safe.

[@JosefMucha100]

good advice. thanks!

[@brentp201]

Hank hill to the rescue!

[@spinshade]

@@brentp201 Taste the meat, not the heat I'll tell you what.

[@Ultra-Collector]

Great video! See you have to chill the bottle because if the bottle you’re filling is the same temp or warmer than your fill tank the process will go in reverse that’s why you shouldn’t shake a green gas or propane tank before filling a mag it causes it to cool. If your propane bottle or GG can is colder than your mag you’ll never get a fill,you’ll think it’s full after a 15 sec fill but you’ll get only a few or half shots that’s because the process is working in reverse,as your mag gets a slight fill of liquid then a higher concentration of air causing your mag to take what’s inside and will then fill your filling tank. So your mags should always be colder than your fill can or bottle. A TM mag spitting? People who own Tokyo Marui Airsoft wonder why they spit and try to load them with silent fill O-rings which will work but what you do not know is TM uses “open stem fill valves” this is why they’re proprietary and why WE and KJW valves will not work or vice versa. These TM are designed to purge air and gas as you fill giving them right amount /combo of the two like a simple Feul pressure gauge. So if you have a TM your mags are not broken and they’re not defective. With all other mags that need silent fill O-rings it’s always good to purge your mags using GG or propane by holding open the release valve and spraying a few bursts into them which are releasing out the release valve at the same time. This is eliminating access air,old dirty oil and condensation which stays in your gas mags after a bunch of uses taking up space inside the chamber. This is why at some point you’ll be sure you have filled your mags up but for some reason only getting half the usual capacity or not near what they use to. This is why! Hope this helps! Please Check out the channel And if you’re feeling nice subscribe, I’ll be revealing and blowing minds doing episodes on where to find crucial GBBP parts for free and will start when I reach a hundred subscribers. I will Also start doing giveaways as well! Thank you for your time! Thanks for your video!

[@TreeLuvBurdpu]

Also, don't do it near any building intake vents.

[@owlairsoft2083]

I know the video says not to do this at home, but if you live in the US: www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/5124 And on the back of mine: "Never refill this cylinder. Refilling may cause explosion. Federal law prohibits transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C 5124)"

[@MBKill3rCat]

When it says 'refilling may cause explosion', it doesn't mean the tank itself will explode. As these tanks get older, the seals don't hold up, so it might start leaking gas after a long time of being filled and refilled; if the gas leaks inside your house, then it can indeed cause an explosion. To be safe, always store LPG outside, ideally in a well-ventilated shed or something. If you notice any rust or corrosion on the cylinder, do not try to use or refill it.

[@josmty9]

Why don't fill it over the scale? So you can stop it on the correct weight.

[@theblueshadow3537]

where can i get the adapter?

[@cedleced]

Hi there, I am following step by step your instructions. The propane tank do not refill the yellow bottle. If you have an advise it is welcome! Maybe the hose is really too small!

[@rylanleeper4456]

I’ve used propane is a gas pistol the propane smells like ass when you fire it.

[@nikoraasu6929]

yeah you know it's a fucking gas. It won't smell like flowers.

[@shanmukhj.m7100]

@@nikoraasu6929 lol

[@ThePOSM]

Great discovery! Tbh I've used propane (lighter fluid) a few times

[@tedyboygonzales5559]

Is it possible to use lighter fluid for airsoft magazine?

[@JosefMucha100]

no as it is most likely propane-butane mix which is too weak. You need propane.

[@ThePOSM]

@@tedyboygonzales5559 yes. It wont be as good as your regular gas, but it will work none the less, just note that damage may occur to seals, but most probably won't if you look after your stuff and clean it lol; all the mag needs is to be pressurized with a gas. Dont listen to these people theories, as they clearly haven't tried them ;)

[@Ultra-Collector]

Yes he means Butane not propane. Doesn’t technically work and a waste of money because Butane is expensive as hell!

[@MBKill3rCat]

Propane is not lighter fluid, that's butane. Butane has a much lower vapour pressure than propane, and is entirely unsuitable as an airsoft propellant. It would probably not even build up enough pressure to cycle the action and instead just vent your mag immediately, like green gas on a cold winter's day.

[@ryuucz960]

jakou používáš redukci mezi refillnutou lahví a zásobníkem ?

[@Synecek91]

www.anareus.cz/cs/hnaci-plyny-a-co2/9919-mad-bull-prepousteci-redukce-ventil-pro-propylen-MB0040.html?search_query=propan+redukce&results=2

[@ryuucz960]

@@Synecek91 super ... díky ;) hned mě vyjde střelba levněji :D

[@arbino1104]

I use this method to refill my empty mapp gas cylinder with our lpg tank earlier today but when i use it to fill my gbb pistol it only burst the gas out and no pressure. Why is that?

[@MBKill3rCat]

Not all LPG is equal. Propane is used as an airsoft propellant, but another type of LPG that is commonly used as fuel is butane. Butane has a much lower vapour pressure, and probably will not build enough pressure to cycle your gun, causing it to just vent the mag. Make sure you're using propane, and try to get a brand of propane which is decently pure and isn't cut with butane.

[@siliconesword1798]

Do you plan on doing an HPA build sometime?

[@JosefMucha100]

Maybe. But I'm not a fan of HPA because I enjoy realism.

[@HorrorTactico]

@@JosefMucha100 Wait how is HPA less realistic? Does it kick less or make less noise?

[@krzywusala]

Josef, mam dwa pytania: w jakich temperaturach działa ci ten propan poprawnie? I drugie: jak szybko przyzwyczaiłeś się do tego, że twoje strzelanie śmierdzi (chyba, że masz propan bez dodatku zapachowego)? ;)

[@JosefMucha100]

I can somewhat understand the first question but not hte second one. propane in the summer +20 degree is the best. Also depends on the gun you have.

[@krzywusala]

@@JosefMucha100 I forgot that the Czech language is a bit different from the Polish language, sorry. ;) I was surprised that even at +15 degrees C, self-loaded propane works quite poorly. I suspected that the bottle was filled with propane-butane, not as I wanted with propane alone. The second question is a bit of a joke: how quickly did you get used to the smell of your shots (because you probably have propane with a fragrance)?

[@JosefMucha100]

@@krzywusala yes sometimes they can give you propane-butane mixture which is too weak. Happened to a lot of people I talked to. The smell part - I don't care much about the smell and I'm not sure if other airsoft gases are any better ;) Lastly, the performance also depends on the rifle, how efficient it is and how well it seals. VFC and GHK will work in lower temperatures than WE, for example.

[@krzywusala]

Thank you for help, Josef. ;)

[@shadowninja8082]

I was told that Propane is better than green gas for GBBR's if u wana shoot full auto. Is this true? and if so where can i get the yellow bottles that you use and what should i get so i can fill it into a GBBR magazine?

[@NeCtRiCkS]

Propane is exactly the same green gas. The difference is you're paying more for green gas. People say green gas contains a bit of silicon oil, which IF if does, it's a negligible amount.

[@lukaskolestik9272]

Kde sa dá zohnať ta hadica s redukciou prosím. Ďakujem

[@TimothyTakemoto]

How about LPG for filling bicycle tires? 100 yen a small can is not do chesp but for my pistol it may work.

[@MBKill3rCat]

You had one of those 'non-refillable' cylinders fail on you yet? Also, as they're MAPP gas cylinders, I presume it's safe to refill them with propylene?

[@maximilianseelos8665]

Where did you get these refillable bottles?

[@thebikingviking3696]

i also want to know!

[@MBKill3rCat]

They're not refillable bottles. They're meant to be single-use, but you can get a fill adapter which allows you to refill them (which is technically illegal in many countries) from an LPG cylinder.

[@bolduard198]

Zdar, co se týče těch žlutých lahví, tak mám pocit, že v nich byl původně propylen, né propan? A propylen je o něco silnější ne? Nebo jak to s tím je? Protože tudíž radši preferuji propylen. Jsou k sehnání i propylenové bomby? (Protože jestli jo, tak bych se nijak domluvil na "objednávce" té přechodky.)

[@JosefMucha100]

Dají se sehnat, ale budou dražší určitě... Propylen je silnější...

[@bolduard198]

Nazdar, tak jsem si k 18ctinám pořídil gbbr hk416 a zjistil jsem, že to žere jako prase, tudíž asi přejdu na levnější propan v bombách :D ve videu jsi zmiňoval, že bys byl ochotný rekudci vyrobit za zaslat. Jaký by byly podmnínky s platbou atd? Dal by jsi mi nějaký kontakt, abychom se mohli domluvit?

[@JosefMucha100]

Ahoj. Napis mi na FB a domluvime se ;)

[@deltaw7363]

The Lpg that stoves use are not the same like cars use am i right?what uses just propane without butane,cars?

[@blackshadows1992]

hey were can i buy that type of adopter please with the hose and everything ?

[@misterkupp]

So you do this with non refillable containers? The internet told me that was very dangerous. I really want to do this method, but I'm not sure if I should buy a refillable tank, any suggestions?

[@brandonrayner5253]

They are refillable, if done correctly.

[@matthewroy8743]

You dont need to add silocone oil if you just oil your guns and stuff?

[@MBKill3rCat]

No, silicone oil is not something you want in your propellant. It will cause your hop-up bucking to swell, will foul up your barrel decreasing accuracy, and will attract dirt. It's much better to actually maintain your GBB; take it apart after every one or two game days, clean it thoroughly, lubricate the contact points (look for signs of wear) with gun oil or a lubricating grease of some kind (silicone grease (not oil) or molybdenum grease are popular options), and add a drop of silicone oil on the o-rings. Don't put lube on the o-rings, as it can degrade them or impede their function, and don't try to use silicone oil as a lubricant, it's too thin and isn't suitable for metal-metal contact.

[@MBKill3rCat]

@old man strength Silicone oil is not a cleaning product, it's a lubricant, and not a particularly effective one either. Its primary purpose in an airsoft gun is for the o-rings, to help them function and improve their longevity. You want your barrel as clean and dry as possible for optimum performance. For slide contact points, yeah you want a lubricating grease or oil. I've used both moly grease and gun oil on my pistol slides, but that's metal-metal, I can't speak authoritatively on the appropriate lubricant for plastic-plastic contact, either should be fine but I would suggest a lubricating oil is probably what you want. Be mindful to make sure that your choice of lubricant is not harmful to the plastic, though.

[@MBKill3rCat]

@old man strength Many petroleum-based lubricants will degrade rubbers and I think even some plastics, but to be honest, Google is a better source than I am on this matter.

[@蘇服-q7v]

will this thing blow my house ?

[@MBKill3rCat]

If it leaks, and if the gas is ignited. For safety, don't try to use or refill a cylinder which looks damaged or rusty, and always store LPG cylinders outside, ideally in a well-ventilated shed.

[@hometown904]

where can i buy this accesory

[@JosefMucha100]

+monkol sok The hose is custom made. If you I interested, I could perhaps send you one.

[@BeardedNorthBiker]

@@JosefMucha100 Is this offer still available?

[@mikkihintikka7273]

@@JosefMucha100 please teach me how to do it

[@radejet]

I cant find in Serbia all adapters thet I need, can you send me a links where I can order staff to make that hose. Tnx in advance. Hvala !

[@linkzyofficial]

radejet just look up propane airsoft adapter on wish.con I got one for $5 what a steal

[@triandygunawan2304]

@josef Hey I would like to ask for some advice, I have filled my MAPP gas tank with Liquid Propane, just by learning your video. However when I use to gas to fill my airsoft empty magazine, the kicking power is not as good as usual. Do you know why ?

[@MBKill3rCat]

Depends on the brand of propane. Some propane brands cut the gas with butane, or just don't bother refining it to the same degree. Butane has a much lower vapour pressure than propane, and is completely unsuitable as an airsoft propellant. The more butane there is in your propane, the worse it will perform.

[@pavelmarecekmb]

Ahoj, chtěl bych tě zeptat na pár otázek. 1) Rozpínání plynu při vyšší teplotě. Dám příklad, naplním láhve při venkovní teplotě 10°C, pak dám láhve do auta kde mám 21°C, na kolik gramů celkové hmotnosti to plnit, abych zamezil přepouštění nadbytečného plynu? Je lepší je plnit na menší celkovou hmotnost třeba na 700g? Jdemi o to, aby to třeba v autě neucházelo. 2)Potom by mě zajímalo kde láhve skladuješ (sklep bytového domu asi nebude nejlepší volba). 3)Mám WE AK74UN do jak velké zimy propan funguje? Funguje i v 0°C Díky. Pavel

[@VR46Monster]

borec to napousti do originalnich lahvi na propan. tudiz kolik mela ta flaska puvodne, tolik musi mit po naplneni. jenze u nas se nikde neprodava cistej propan v maly lahvi, vsechno je propan-butan.

[@ondrasaler]

@@VR46Monster To mě sralo vždy koupil jsem velkou láhev propan butanu místo propanu čistýho a chtěl jsme po paní vždy čistý propan a nikdy u zdejšího prodejce láhví nikde žádný čistý propan, nevíte někdo kde by kdo měl nějaký spolehlivý zdroj doopravdy dobrý láhví se směsí stejnou jako Green gas ?

[@NDAWELOL]

I really would like to do that but can't find the "hose-pipe" with the reductor anywhere online :/ It seems custom made.

[@fvckthemkids]

They have Coleman propane refill adapters for like 20$

[@MBKill3rCat]

His set-up is indeed custom made. You can buy an adapter pretty cheap like Victor Castro stated.

[@MaBodj]

Zdravím. Psal jsem Vám na FB ohledně výroby redukce pro plnění propylenových lahví butanem. Bylo by možné se prosím domluvit na nějaké radě nebo výrobě? Děkuji za odpověď.

[@zeranim]

Mám dotaz Pepo , před plněním mám dát do té redukce plnící nějaký filtr ? PS: Já naplním láhve a pak z těch láhví při plnění mi u všech GBB pistolí od marui a zbraní GBBR co mám to dává nestabilní výkon oproti klasickým Green gasům značek : Ultrair , Smart gas , protech atd , díky za případnou pomoc , s pozdravem Ondřej Hnízdo.

[@JosefMucha100]

Ahoj, ja zadny filter nepouzivam ale vim ze nekteri lidi filtr davaji. Nemyslim si ale ze to je nutne. Nestabilni vykon jsem nikdy nemel. To bude chyba asi nekde ve zbrani. Zkontroluj jestli je to opravdu propan cisty a ne propan butan. PB nefuguje, nema dostatecny vykon.

[@zeranim]

@@JosefMucha100 Nyní jsem testoval akdžy nappním a cca pár minut počkám vystřílím krásně jeden zásobník , dále pak počkám zase až se ohřeje a jsem schopen i u té full auto Hicapy Xtreme od Tokyo Marui vystřílet dalších 28 ran , takže nyní mám ten správný propan ;) Díky za pomoc.

[@DTProductionsEU]

Hoj, kde jsi, prosím, koupil ty kartuše? Všude na netu co koukám tak píšou, že jsou znovu nenaplnitelné - jednocestný ventil. Díky

[@JosefMucha100]

Ahoj, nektere nejdou naplnit ale vetsina jde. Ty co nejdou maji vevnitr kulicku ktera se da s trochou stesti vypichnout ven. Pak jde plnit vse.

[@Lorwildrose]

It's against the law in a lot of countries so check!

[@ziko-vlogys1471]

Vyrobil by si mi jednu přechodku?

[@JosefMucha100]

Ahoj, napis mi na fb na stranky a domluvime se.

[@ejdm]

Zdravim, mužu používat normal gas do zasobniku? Koupim u bezinky jen malej, dam do zasobniku jen propan butan, nevadi to?

[@JosefMucha100]

musi to byt cisty propan. PB nefunguje protoze nema dostatecny tlak.

[@ejdm]

@@JosefMucha100 A neznicim tim tu zbran? takze podle navodu :)

[@JosefMucha100]

@@ejdm pokud pouzijes cisty propan tak ne.

[@ejdm]

@@JosefMucha100 Ok, díky

[@standasvoboda1296]

ahoj chci se zeptat jak funguje zbraň v kupovaným plynu do airsoftek se přidává i olej myslíš že by s tím neměl být žádný problém?

[@JosefMucha100]

Dle meho nazoru je olej v plynu nezadouci, dostava se ma hop up gumicku a mohlo by tp snizit presnost. Jelikoz ale pouzivam jen propan nebo propylen tak nedokazu rict. Muzu ale rict ze pouzivanim propanu se nic nemuze pokazit. :)

[@standasvoboda1296]

OK díky moc

[@bOrdyCZ]

Kde se dá takhle pořídit propan? vetšinou všude koupís propan-butan

[@parryhotter420]

existuje nějaký SAFE způsob plnění ? s mým štěstím by bylo druhý den v novinách "zemřel tááák mladý"

[@JosefMucha100]

bohužel ne, žádná z těchto lahví není určena k plnění. Ale stačí použivat hlavu... :)

[@Mxchall46]

Co používáš za ty flašky od čeho jsou

[@AutodoctorCZ]

Josef, tu hadici s redukcema jsi pořídil kde prosím?

[@JosefMucha100]

vyrobil. Co ja vim tak se nikde jinde poridit neda.

[@Hellrider401]

Ahoj chcem sa ťa opýtať propylén môže ísť do zbraní ? a ak hej tak sa zvýši aj výkon zbrane oproti propánu ? 🙂 dík za info 🙂

[@JosefMucha100]

Jasny propylen je silnejsi o neco a funguje pri nizsich teplotach nez propan nebo green gas. Je nekde mezi greengasem a CO2 bych rekl.

[@koli501]

To je poprvé co vidím že konečně píšeš česky 😂

[@Eyeseedeadpeeps]

is this ok for gbb pistol ? Will LPG work the same as this ?

[@MBKill3rCat]

Yes. Make sure you use propane, not butane. Both are types of liquified petroleum gas (LPG), but butane has much lower vapour pressure and is useless as an airsoft propellant.

[@janmatula9021]

Nemáš link nebo názvy prvků z té přechodky ?

[@JosefMucha100]

+Jan Matula ahoj, jediny 2 veci co se daji koupit jsou koncovky, jedna je z aliexpresu, staci zadat "gas refill adapter" a vyskoci ti mosazna prechodka. Ta je ale upravena na soustruhu a vyndany jednosmerny ventil ktery je uvnitr. Druhy dil je objimka na bombu koupena v obchode se svareci technikou. Zbytek hadice je na zakazku delany.

[@janmatula9021]

Alpha4AS dobře, díky

[@janmatula9021]

Alpha4AS A nemohl by jsi mi jednu vyrobit ? :D

[@JosefMucha100]

+Jan Matula mohl, napis na fb a domluvime se.

[@janmatula9021]

Alpha4AS ok, máš tam zprávu.

[@okroon6777]

Oh boy nothing like the smell of gas leak in the mornin

[@greenzorse]

lol! so greengas is just propane minus the smell? now i'm picturing Chris as Hank hill : i sell propane *racks slide* and propane accessories ;p

[@antoninsterba1600]

postupoval jsem podle tvého postupu (návodu) a nepodařilo se mi naplnit na požadovanou váhu .

[@JosefMucha100]

+ANTONIN ŠTĚRBA To mne mrzí...

[@SuGi226]

Ahoj, nevedel by si mi vytvoriť takýto plnič a poslať?

[@JosefMucha100]

Není problém, napiš mi na FB a domluvíme se.

[@VapourTrailz]

You couldn't tell me what fittings were used to make up this hose assembly please? I have a Chinese Pol to plumbers gas bottle fitting on order but need to make up a Pol - valve - female Pol plus I want to add in a y piece to vent off the compressed air gas in the bottle rather than going down the freezing bottle route. Cheers

[@JosefMucha100]

we used to machine the parts. It would not fit anyways.

[@pospaa1230]

mužu se zeptat jaky přesne propane ???? je topny ,pohony ,a propan butan diky?

[@JosefMucha100]

ahoj, je to cisty propan, propan-butan nefunguje. Jestli je to topny nebo pohonny nevim a nemyslim si ze na tom zalezi. Co vim tak jediny rozdil mezi temato dvema je ze jednu bombu musis otocit aby plyn sel ven v kapalne forme, druhy (pohonny) ma vevnitr trubku a kapalny jde ven kdyz stoji normalne. Vic nevim bohuzel.

[@pospaa1230]

@@JosefMucha100 ok dik moc

[@蘇服-q7v]

Yeah I'm successfully blow up my house Now I have to find in the new house.

[@Mitistefan]

I would still use green gas

[@swolskowsky5058]

How much Bar pressure do your bottles feel ?

[@StinkfussderEroberer]

I am looking for a good propan cylinder with the CGA600 thread, any suggestions? shipping to germany would be cool

[@NurText]

Please do me a favor and don't play on my local field when doing such stupid shit!

[@Micsmit_45]

@@NurText you know there is not much of a difference between this and normal green gas right?

[@NurText]

@@Micsmit_45 there's for sure a difference between someone playing with selfmade refilled gas tanks instead of using prefilled botttles.

[@Micsmit_45]

@@NurText the bottles themselves are made to contain gas under pressure. Not sure what exactly your problem is tbh

[@NeCtRiCkS]

@@NurText geez, the gas remains the same. The risk he's exposed to is only during refills I believe

[@lukaskolestik9272]

Písal som na messenger ohľadom redukcie.

[@lakecra]

Hey Josef, do you know Propane has a harmful chemical (additive and odorous leaking gas) added to remind users for a propane gas leak? It is called Ethyl Mercaptan. When you inhale it to your respiratory system, it causes to reduce oxygen below safe breathing levels. Breathing of high concentrations may cause dizziness, light-headedness, headache, nausea and loss of co-ordination. Continued inhalation may result in unconsciousness. I know you (most airsofters) use Propane outdoor, and it may reduce the chance of having the above harms and dangers. DO NOT USE PROPANE INDOOR ! Even you have good ventilation, it does not help much for inhaling Ethyl Mercaptan. I hope it helps and gives more details about Propane gas to Propane airsofters ! Good luck !

[@top-5gamers717]

Mohl by jsi mi to také vyrobit

[@JosefMucha100]

jasny neni problem, staci napsat... :)

[@dilbertduck]

i loveyou

[@xxminecraft28xx46]

i loveyou too

[@dilbertduck]

@@xxminecraft28xx46 I love you more

[@ferisek767]

Cau

[@gabrielbarile73]

Great idea but I have no balls to do it hehe

[@siliconesword1798]

KZbin purposefully slows down this video. Is it just me or is this happening to you?

[@JosefMucha100]

Playback works fine for me.

[@siliconesword1798]

@@JosefMucha100 it never works I have not gotten past 30 seconds and I have tried letting it load overnight . I can play any other video perfectly fine.

[@siliconesword1798]

@@JosefMucha100 how do you like the new silent pistol? How would you compare it to the Mk 23?

[@JosefMucha100]

@@siliconesword1798 It's a good option with a lot of upgrades over the TM and it will be cheaper. TM, however, is also still a great choice. If you want to buy it, I would suggest to wait for the release and compare what you're getting in both packages.

[@siliconesword1798]

Josef Mucha thank you I do not have a ton of money as I am only 14 so I will wait another 1 or 2 months and see . What is the compatibility?

[@CHO_FAI_WONG]

wtf

[@cookieplays4491]

i do not find this Video useful and found it to be a waste of time. change my mind