DIY Basement Wall Framing (How to Finish a Basement Ep. 2)

[@busurkind]

I just got 89k estimate for my 700sqft basement and that’s why I’m here

[@GreatRemembrance]

Haha this comment is the best! Best of luck. That’s why I’m here too 😂

[@mr_fuji_mintsmr_fuji_mints9873]

Me too! Literally same size and price! 😂

[@416pp]

Wtf you just need walls.. no rooms and 89k? Bruh.. even in expensive markets in Canada 700 sq ft shouldn’t run you more then 40k

[@adelelsayed6711]

Me too

[@busurkind]

@@416pp I wanted an office, full bathroom and playroom there. the most expensive thing is plumbing that includes drilling concrete and installing in-ground pump for it

[@gavinframent9383]

This is what everything needs. The way you present and edit your videos is key to learning. Whether it's nursing or car repair, your formula works. I love watching your videos.

[@andrewthron5107]

I really appreciate it! I am glad it's helpful!

[@dylansellers9588]

Did you mean 1 and 1/2" + 1 and 1/2" = 3"??? Thanks for the video. It gave me the confidence to get started and became even more valuable to re-watch after starting.

[@303pearson]

Annoying that he hasn’t addressed this as I am trying to figure out measurements as we speak and immediately was like hang on… 1/2” + 1/2” is not 3”🤦‍♂️wtf

[@rhettskeel7669]

Hopefully, you meant the thickness of 2 2x4s. The easiest way is to lay down two 2x4s on the floor against the basement wall then measure the distance from the top 2x4 to the floor joist. No subtraction needed.

[@timdaniels2094]

Thanks!

[@cadayx]

Framing my basement right now. Thanks for this great video!

[@andrewthron5107]

Good luck with your project!!

[@johnbarbuto5387]

Excellent! Quick, efficient, very effective commentary! Thanks! I will certainly recommend this to others.😀

[@myuyguncaable]

thank you for your videos I have an unfinished 2500 sf. basement. you gave me to encourage

[@conniewright8080]

The best thing is 'you know how to do it' without hiring someone, which is very expensive & they might not do it right. I helped my husband, after his death I had to hire to complete some of the work. It was a nightmare. They ALL say they can......great job sir.

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

I could not agree with you more, Connie! Appreciate you watching!

[@weekendhomeprojects]

What are the do's and don'ts of insulating above ground basements? I hear the walls like to breath.

[@jeremythomas7544]

@weekendhomeprojects 1" or better for foam board on block or poured wall 3/4 " gap away for wall framing insulate with rock wool it's mold and water resistant. You want to stop wall from breathing inside.

[@weekendhomeprojects]

@@jeremythomas7544 glue the foam to the block?

[@jeremythomas7544]

@weekendhomeprojects yes with foam board glue Loctite pl300 0r liquid nails foam glue Tape the seams. You can screw it with tap cons if needed. You can either use xps foam *extruded foam) or eps foam (Styrofoam) foam. Both are mold resistant

[@evanmcguire9220]

Great video! What software was that, that you used to show the California corner?

[@timc2797]

Why is there space between the insulation and the 2x4 wall? Do u recommend putting plastic sheeting between concrete block and the insulation? Thank you I advance Tim

[@RADIO-FREE-AMERICA]

A lot of planning goes in to this, for sure! I could never remember all these instructions! Cheers! Gonna be a cold 🥶 weekend!

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

So much planning! And yea it’s gonna be a cold one for sure. Thanks for watching, Thomas!

[@dtesla9086]

couple of questions..dont you need small space between studs and wall,,i think i read half inch,,as well do you need vapour barrier under bottom plate

[@samrala777]

Is there a different way of framing for people living in colder states and/or Canada? Due to the potential of shrinking and expanding? Thanks!

[@cameron6740]

Vapor barriers may be different as well.

[@lewis6699518222]

Yes, use a one inch expansion gap between bottom plate and pressure treated plate on floor. Nail thru to allow for any potential heaving of the floor as it doesn’t run thru into your joists.

[@jayflaggs]

How would you frame around a protruding cement baseboard?

[@daemoncan2364]

Is 1" of XPS considered enough insulation / vapor barrier in your locale?

[@JohnnyUtah9173]

Yes, In the colder climates, R5 continuous + R15 cavity meets code.

[@MrZlatanv]

Great video! I have a question on how to connect a long wall. I have a 30 foot wall. Do I just build two 12 foot plate walls and a 6 foot? Is there a certain way to connect the 3 separate piece to each other? Like overlapping plates?

[@mohammadabrahim6517]

When installing the frame should the frame be installed to the ground first air to the floor Joyce first? And how will I get it perfect without the frame being messed up. Would I use a shim?

[@BrandonLubanski]

Bottom firstborn easier, and tapcons or Ramsey fasteners will hold easier...then yes shim the difference and fastener the top

[@bobbysantiago5783]

Great video. 👍

[@1tufgt]

What tool are you using for the framing diagram?

[@ColleenMullaly]

When you lift the wall into place, are the crowns facing the inside (concrete block) or the outside (drywall side) of the wall?

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

I had the crows all facing the inside. But I don’t think it matters all that much as long as they are all facing the same way

[@jveeroom112]

Awesome vid. Helps a lot. Unfortunately I have no space in my basement to build the wall on the ground due to posts located in inconvenient places. So have to frame in place much like this

[@ameann]

Hey, quick question. How do you get the OSB sheet behind the stud wall frame and fixed to the stud frame whilst mainting the gap from the stone wall? My mind is doing gymnastics for something that is probably quite simple. Thanks.

[@JonathonRodger]

You didn’t leave an air gap and therefor you’ll have frost and moisture build up on the insulation and surface mold behind your walls. When building off concrete walls you need 6.5” to surface of drywall with a 2x3 framed to give you enough space behind the wall to have what I call mixing air where your hot air that’s escaping the house will hit the wall where the cold air is penetrating the concrete wall from the outside in and with no mixing air space you will cause too much temperature difference in one specific area and thus moisture build up and surface mold. Rest of the video seems fine. Your walls could also start frosting on the inside of the drywall too if you have a newer home and is really air tight…

[@alfredot.8426]

What about the r-10 rigid insulation? That also acts as a moisture barrier.

[@JuanRomero-bf5or]

quick question 🧐. If I Wana sheetrock over a cement wall but the wall has 3 different depths. do I insulate with the boarding and then even out the depths before the final sheetrock(I plan on using liquid nails for the project) ; or do I even put the wall first?

[@steverogers2603]

Thanks for your video. My only suggestion would be to slow it down a bit.

[@donnell9238]

Fantasic video bro.

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

I appreciate it!

[@alfredot.8426]

I would cut studs individually if the floor is uneven. If you frame the whole thing at once and the slab is uneven, you would be using or abusing shims to make it fit

[@brianbirdsall2167]

did you put your framing right up against rigid board nor space it slightly away? I am currently finishing my basement and and coming up on the foam board and framing portion shortly.

[@csimet]

I left about 1-2" gap... mostly since the concrete walls are rarely poured straight. Not only does it leave a small air gap, but you can build the walls straight. My walls were out about 1" both top to bottom and side to side (along the 24 feet). I'd recommend using treated 2x4s anywhere they contact the concrete directly (especially the bottom plate).

[@doctordutch]

what are you putting behind the drywall or in front of the framing?

[@Floidberg]

Very insightful! What software is that you were using to show the California corners?

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Sketchup free version!

[@RightPathOnly]

Wow thanks for this!

[@vladb4727]

what is the difference between green and pressure treated plates? can both be used in contact with the concrete floor? Also, is it necessary to install additional insulation between foam boards and drywall ? is it required? how about vaper barrier ?Thank you !

[@justinnelson6169]

They're the same thing. It is required, because the treatment keeps the moisture (concrete is porous) from rotting out the wood. Newer homes tend to have a vapor barrier underneath the slab, but it wouldn't be necessary for the treated lumber...however, it would for flooring.

[@kwb402]

We do it because it’s fun.

[@abelmedina-aispuro3716]

Great video

[@rhdata05]

So watching this among other videos here, it seems that the proper way to install studs to basement walls is to hammer/screw them into the ground via piece of pressure treated wood, not into the foundation walls. That is good to know

[@jiovannijiuseppe]

You want green wood only for the 2x4 touching the floor; you should have anything vertical 1/2 inch from the wall because concrete naturally has moisture

[@bipedalbobby]

Not sure if you answered this but would you have framed the entire wall first before lifting into place? I find that's a little easier

[@five-forty3431]

Great explanation, thank you!

[@infiniti2015]

Great work. Does the crown portion face the interior of the room or the cement wall side once you lift it into place?

[@davidc9135]

It’s personal preference. It’s not so important which way the stud crowns, It’s more important that you stay consistent with your choice. Either way you go about it you’ll either have some planing to do or shimming on the extremely bowed studs. If you don’t own a power planer or don’t intend on buying one then you have your answer. Side note: if you are building your walls on the ground and lifting them in place it’s easier to attach the members when studs are facing crown up

[@infiniti2015]

@@davidc9135That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the well thought out response. Much appreciated.

[@PeterKeefe]

Great video series! I'm about to frame out a room in the basement. Wondering: do you wish you had done double bottom or top plates?

[@BigSkyJason]

1:03 I think you mean 1-1/2", not 1/2".

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Correct, my bad!

[@caryn1158]

What if you have a basement drain in the floor around the perimeter and vapor barrier on the walls I can't screw anything or it will break warranty guessing a can glue to floor, but assuming I can't use or need foam board😅?

[@joethegamer1709]

Did you water seal the basement because you should so your flooring won't get messed up.

[@scottanthonyd]

How do you recommend sealing the basement?

[@maximusmaxwell100]

Is there a code for nail size on non-load bearing partition walls. Everything I read online says they need to be 3.25 inches length 16d (0.148 inches) diameter but the only framing nails for nail guns in the store are 3.25 inches length and 0.120.inch diameter. Am I missing something?

[@ClubMayview]

The rigid foam prices are flat out robbery

[@josephmercado1408]

Did you use insulation Batts with the foamular?

[@tacticalchannel9433]

Whats the modelling software? Thatd make my life so much easier

[@mikebursic2755]

Should basement walls not be floating walls?

[@davevickers4592]

Thanks for the video! How many Tapcons are needed for bottom plate to stay in place?

[@77Avadon77]

you should use concrete anchors not tapcon screws

[@trp2413]

Very few I did every other stud bay so about 32” I also used a powder a hated load gun, they are cheap

[@LawrenceBautista-g7m]

What is the specs of your air compressor? I'm planning to buy a framing nail gun. Great video and keep it up. Thank you.

[@lensreddy]

What's the circular saw blade thingy called that you cut lumbar with?

[@Adam-ue2ig]

Can I frame or do I need a builders license and permit to do this portion? I realize this would be needed for electrical.

[@jamesschroeder6407]

Really informative video, nice job! What modeling software are you using for the framing?

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Thanks! It’s Sketchup - free version

[@billygreen3515]

That was awesome im going to subscribe

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Thanks Billy! Appreciate the support!

[@ladyj603]

Hi i wanted to know can you finish your basement if you have a French drain also if have exposed plumbing pipes

[@TheStoneWhisperer]

I would normally agree with you about the framing on the ground, but what if your floor isn't flat? As well, my measuring is NOT that good! I always am off by a min of 1/8th, so stick frame building just sounds more appealing, even if it takes longer. Because I can custom cut each piece. As well, old homes are never straight and square. So you build the wall on the floor and then go to raise it, and it doesn't fit worth a damn and you must dismantle half the work you did, or at min cut a bunch of custom cuts. if you are not in a hurry, I say stick build it on the wall...hehehe. Plus I have GOBS of steam pipes, conduit, cable wire, hangers, eye bolts, Refrigerator ice maker copper line, Security System wiring, Back up Generator conduit and box up in the rafters! It's going to be a messy, custom job no matter what! I don't have a nice clean ceiling and floor and walls to build on to. On top of all that, I have 8" diameter steel support structures throughout the basement. So I plan to actually built wood box columns around all of them first, then frame the walls with the wood box beams accenting throughout the room. I can't see it any other way. To try to hide each steel structure would be near impossible, so why not accentuate them right? Anyways...cool video....but slow it down. Take your time and show more video, you speak clear and concise, so I know people will watch all of it! Thanks!

[@albertosantana5506]

I’m here because they wanted 40k

[@Kathayne636]

lol, it's not like it's rocket science either. you can do it.

[@tacticalchannel9433]

This

[@adamstone635]

What if you already have drywall on your ceiling? Can I just put the top plate to that? I guess that wouldnt even matter huh? Thanks.

[@bikramsingh2014]

Very informative. What nail gun and nail size you use for framing projects?

[@derekgusoff6768]

I tried the dewalt t1000 with 3" fasteners. It wasn't powerful enough.

[@Maxspeed7Dude]

I'm doing a basement hallway and I don't need utilities against that wall, is it possible to do foam and then drywall with no framing?

[@DuaneMondragon]

Why did they not allow for expansion basement floors have a tendency of rising

[@akoyoat]

Amazing job.

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Thanks!

[@authenticwater6077]

Could you share the links to all the products that you used?

[@michaelo691]

How long of a pre-frame is too long? In other words, is there a maximum length of wall I should be preframing?

[@justinnelson6169]

As long as it's solid and anchored at the top and bottom, it shouldn't matter. But, if you have long spans between anchoring points (Seriously, nails are cheap. And, drops in the bucket compared to even just the insulation or flooring) that could potentially cause issues.

[@barriersurf16]

Wait, should he have framed the 16OC studs on the ground or no?

[@r.j.andmegp2073]

What software do you use to plan out the project?

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Sketchup! I just use the free version

[@drterazkl3633]

Got a 90k quote how can I cut this cost down ???

[@snackbardipper]

I’m stuck @1:05, 1/2” + 1/2” = 3 inches part ?

[@EliVeach]

he meant to say 1 1/2 + 1 1/2. 1 1/2 being the thickness of a 2x4

[@aeneascarter5509]

how much do you think it would cost me to finish my own basement , mine is about 750 sq ft

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

I spent around 10k on materials to finish my 800 SF basement. Good luck 🍀

[@dawnwinter4471]

How do I get Armstrong to sponsor my drop sealing

[@RR-vf2bd]

Interesting review! Can you give pricing for items.

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Hi! Check out the video description - most of the tools and materials should be linked there!

[@markgross3256]

Very good series of videos! Very informative.

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Appreciate it, Mark! Thanks for watching!

[@derekgusoff6768]

I bought the powder actuated nail shooter thingy. It isn't working. The nails don't go into the concrete.

[@rhemamachaira8763]

Make two cheater boards for 16" on center measurements. I have ductwork where I can't prefab walls

[@LuisRios-m4n]

I just got to the framing part, aren't basement walls suppose to be floating?

[@patricksmith3135]

Great video, as usual. I just thought you were 'teaching' us how to frame 1 stud at a time since you already demonstrated how to pre-construct on the ground then lift whole wall. And I thought you brother was not at home that day, ergo easier on your back to lift 1 2x4 at a time that 12 of them. All in all its a great job and great improvement for your home too. Merry Christmas Andrew.

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Appreciate it, Patrick! Yea, Ryan wasn’t around too much for the basement - but I got his help here and there. Merry Christmas to you too!

[@deeshad]

I used the same adhesive and supported with 2x4 but it doesn’t stick

[@JimWatsonTheframingMagician]

Nail your bottom and top plate in place and then you can take each stud and stand it up in position and mark it in place by scribing it with a pencil using the underside of the top plate as a guide.

[@patty109109]

Sometimes building walls on the floor is a pain getting them into position depending on what’s going on above… also if you make it too tall you gotta redo it. I think I’ve done that.

[@Cccc-ky4vq]

I’ve always heard to use metal studs for framing in the basement whats everyone’s opinion

[@Jesse-p3f7r]

What did this cost?

[@markk5295]

How far apart should tap con screws be in the bottom plate. I’ve heard every 3 to 4 feet.

[@jiovannijiuseppe]

Isn’t stick framing the best way to do this? Should really be the only way; Reason I say this is because your foundation is going to naturally dip in some places same with the beams you’ll attach a horizontal frame on top to the basement ceiling Because of this each stud is going to be completely different in size, so while it is super tedious, it’s probably the best way to go about it correct?

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

That was my logic - but it did take a lot longer… thanks for watching!

[@jasonreed7608]

Fire blocking??

[@cwcadventures9987]

What does crown up mean?

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

crown is the "natural curvature of the board when looking down the boards shortest edge". Hope that helps

[@tireswing]

Powder actuator drill gun from the wire would have done the job well.

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Totally agree - I noted that in the vid, but I did not have a Ramset nailer at the time of filming.

[@bhadz100]

How long were the tap cons used for the bottom plate

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

I believe 3"

[@firemanemt51]

Wait with what math does 1/2 inch +1/2 inch = 3 inch

[@sjanowski1]

Yeah, I think he meant inch and a half. It’s all good we get it.

[@tabletappedgameplays7475]

Somebody really beat you down about the framing, didn't they? You mentioned it in every minute of the video. Lol. Maybe it was you beating yourself up. Either way, this video is very helpful. Thanks!

[@jackryder6732]

I have a few questions. Can I ask. As few videos dont even respond

[@dabig_guy2204]

Basement framing

[@Rellikman]

I read that insulating your inside foundation isn’t good as it keeps the warmth of the home from warming up your foundation where your foundation and soil outside of it can expose the foundation to Adfreezing and possible foundation damage?

[@josephmercado1408]

Use the stud master

[@izznice6969]

I would recommend not using tape to seal foam. From experience, tape will come undone over time. Leave a small gap and spray foam.

[@RealtorDanielMedina]

1/2+1/2=1 and not 3. So idk if I could trust this

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Haha 1.5” + 1.5” = 3 might have been talking faster than I thought

[@owodeone]

I got £5k estimate for my 86 sqft. Thats why I am here also

[@hamamunashe]

Am here coz they want $9k for a 12 X 12 feet room

[@stephaniebachman397]

Does he mean 1 1/2 and 1 1/2????

[@AndrewThronImprovements]

Yes!

[@savagehouse2612]

I'm here because I'm broke 😅

[@josephmercado1408]

This dude would of been done and 16 on center every time 😅