DIY Diabetes Apps Compared - Loop vs Trio

I created a summary comparison based on the content of this video, hopefully you will find it useful: Comparison of DIY Loop, Trio, and Android APS: System: • DIY Loop: Open-source, customizable algorithms • Trio: Open-source, highly adaptive algorithm • Android APS: Open-source, advanced customizability Key Strengths: • DIY Loop: Simple, intuitive interface; Temporary basil adjustments • Trio: Best for unannounced meals; Handles protein and fat intake well • Android APS: Very flexible, customizable settings; Dynamic insulin delivery Algorithm Type: • DIY Loop: Uses temp basal and auto-bolus options • Trio: Aggressive, adaptive insulin delivery • Android APS: Adaptive, based on user profiles and trends Meal Handling: • DIY Loop: Requires pre-bolusing for high-glycemic meals • Trio: Best for low-carb and delayed digestion (GLP1 users) • Android APS: Can handle unannounced meals with settings Customization: • DIY Loop: Limited customization (temp basals, insulin sensitivity) • Trio: High level of customization with protein/fat intake • Android APS: Maximum personalization and widgets Ease of Use: • DIY Loop: Intuitive, beginner-friendly • Trio: Complex but offers deep control • Android APS: Requires experience with tech customization Algorithm Control: • DIY Loop: Fixed insulin sensitivity and carb ratios • Trio: Aggressive control based on total insulin delivery • Android APS: Adaptive, based on past data Caregiver Features: • DIY Loop: Has Loop Caregiver app for remote control • Trio: Limited caregiver control (in development) • Android APS: Supports advanced caregiver control Dynamic Settings: • DIY Loop: Retrospective correction, no AI • Trio: Highly adaptive, learns over time • Android APS: Adjusts dynamically every few minutes Best For: • DIY Loop: Beginners, those needing manual control • Trio: Low-carb or delayed-digestion diets • Android APS: Full customization and control FDA Approval: • DIY Loop: No (user-built, experimental) • Trio: No (user-built, experimental) • Android APS: No (user-built, experimental)

[@zachazlett]

I’ve been using iAPS/Trio since July and love it so far. Once you get a handle on the settings it has a chance of working almost autonomously.

[@mereldijkhuizen65]

what kind of insulin are you using?

[@zachazlett]

@ I use normal Humalog.

[@SteenLarsen]

Great discussion and comparison of Loop and Trio. However, AAPS does not belong in the headline since it was only mentioned briefly once or twice. But even though my main interest was AAPS, I still enjoyed the video. Thanks for making it!

[@inspectorgadget346]

Got a iPhone 16 they day it it came out. I had a Samsung S23 Ultra prior to that but wanted to go back to Apple. I love both ecosystems; however, I do miss AAPS. prior to that but wanted to go back to Apple.

[@soozzi]

Super informative! Thank you! 1 week on Trio after 5 years on Loop. Really loving it so far. Turned on Dynamic ISF today. You do have to do this one step at a time, very slowly.

[@HeritageFocus]

Any idea what video / docs she refers to at 34:18 ? Link would be amazing..!

[@SwissPGO]

Thanks once more for these videos... I wish to set up a swiss user team once I migrate to this!

[@emanuelesteves2818]

Is there any app that I could use with tandem pump, their app is still not available in Canada

[@craigclark5845]

I still like Loop for its simplicity, Trio is so complex and so many levers you can pull.

[@dahnerodriguez]

I eat carnivore. I have been using Loop since March. Would I be better off using Trio or just stay with Loop? I just had my A1C at my doctors office and it was 5.2! I'm so happy after being so frustrated with the setup process. Thank you for any help.

[@glenmattson3765]

Off topic, comment: For a monitoring device I use X-Drip on my Android phone. I appreciate the voice announcement capability for the BG readings when it is not convenient to look at my pump, phone, or watch. i also like the BG forecast graph based on insulin and carbohydrate intake data.

[@mrcoachjason]

Where are the videos and docs she spoke of on how to get setup on trio ?

[@SteenLarsen]

Super micro bolus was discussed but nobody gave the definition. In AAPS the "super" in super bolus and super micro bolus refer to "stealing" basal insulin and giving it upfront inside a bolus. So let's say your basal is 1unit/hour and your bolus calculator is telling you that you need 5 units. If you select to super bolus aaps will turn your basal off for 2 hours and add those 2 units of basal insulin to your bolus which then increases from 5 to 7. The idea is that giving the basal up front will lower your meal spike.

[@mba6942]

What pumps and CGM are suitable for Loop?

[@BokiXI]

Essentially only Omnipod Dash.

[@TheAshleydelmar]

Is Trio available for Android? I'm low carb, on a GLP-1, but I have an Android

[@dawnb2224]

I will stay with FDA approved pump. It works great for me with A1C's in the 5's for years. I stay healthy too. Not going to chage what is working for me. I also am really not tech savvy so it is not for me.

[@kumasingh2607]

Has chinese cureed a 25 years old lady with type one

[@karinak09]

I need an algorithm that automatically adapts weekly based on a woman’s monthly cycle 🥲