DIY Stirling Engine 02: First Stirling Cycle Cooler / Heat Pump Test from Modified Air Compressor

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@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
New Solar Sunday Episode uploaded on my other channel btw kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIu9lYqjbpmcqcU Trying to get that channel to 1,000 subs so i can monetize it. so go subscribe.
@gerardjachymiak5822
@gerardjachymiak5822 4 жыл бұрын
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@Madsstuff
@Madsstuff 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerardjachymiak5822 Your ass isn't worth Monetizing...
@LummoxAHiredHoodlum
@LummoxAHiredHoodlum 4 жыл бұрын
I did subscribed to it. Will watch the video later. :)
@joecobra48
@joecobra48 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy this was 9 mos ago. I was there
@ahmdabdallah5811
@ahmdabdallah5811 3 жыл бұрын
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@kendallmiller-mather2379
@kendallmiller-mather2379 4 жыл бұрын
Go for the stirling engine. You wont know how efficient a heat pump it will be until you install the regenerate, insulate the hot side and duct the air from the fan/pulley to the cold side. My theory with why the cold side is still warm is because without the regenerator, the air from the hot cylinder is still warm when it is arrives into the cold cylinder. As for the friction issue it's possible that plate the reed valves attach to is causing a major restriction (which could also lead to compression and heat in the cold cylinder). If the air inlets in the head are threaded I would plug them and try it without the reed valve plate.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
well as you can see when it starts up, the cylinder head on the cold side gets really cold, but then the friction of the cylinder spreads heat to the parts around it. so i think its a friction issue atm.
@H3onnici
@H3onnici 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest to ditch the ring valve plate holder and connect the head directly to the sleeve. The valve assembly is reducing the flow, increasing losses to no gain. Also I would plug the sump breather if you intend to pressurize it. I love stirling engines. It would be amazing if you manage to make it work.🙂👍
@niettefilmen
@niettefilmen 9 ай бұрын
quite right !, well this is still experimental
@JessWLStuart
@JessWLStuart 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is AWESOME! My dream is a Stirling Engine that produces enough electrical power for my house!
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
cereal box's make for great gaskets when coated with grease or soaked in oil used them alot on gaskets for my bikes
@petercoutu4726
@petercoutu4726 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the addition of pine resin/pine tar dissolved in isopropyl alcohol, would make it even closer to the commercial products.
@pwkoert6594
@pwkoert6594 4 жыл бұрын
I mostly use printer/copier paper in oil or grease for head gaskets. never bought a sheet of gasket paper 8-)
@Gordonseries385
@Gordonseries385 4 жыл бұрын
dont know anything about stirling engines but the neighbor gave me a funny looking air compressor and i found out the compressor unit was a refrigerant unit and it compressed the air to close to 100lbs i will check out your other channel take care
@asdf35750
@asdf35750 4 жыл бұрын
You need a regenerator in between the two cylinders. A smal can with steel wool in it would work. Depending on whether you are trying to generate hot or cold, you can insulate one of the cylinders - insulate the cold one for generating cold, insulate the hot on to generate heat. The fan will pass fresh air to either warm or cool the other cylinder.
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry if you took my last comment negatively. I meant it as sorta sarcastic; I love the way you manage to do the things you do. Whatever I’ve been doing in my life, I’ve always played the game by my own rules, and on my own terms. I appreciate what it takes to do that. Building a Stirling engine, or even attempting to, put of a pile of old parts, it’s inspiring. Sorry if you misunderstood what I was trying to say.
@evanchapmanfanman
@evanchapmanfanman 4 жыл бұрын
The rust on the valve plates reminds me of when I rebuilt my devilbiss air compressor pump, thankfully parts were still available. by the way, karropak gasket paper makes excellent head gaskets for these compressors.
@danielmahoney8743
@danielmahoney8743 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea..Have had a big interest in Stirling cycle engines for years and built a couple basic models. You're on the right track but you need a complete displacer cylinder and regenerator for the full thermodynamic effect of extreme hot and cold. Thanks for the great vid! New sub.
@dr1verman
@dr1verman 2 жыл бұрын
Stirling Engines are great, but they are too good, and they were suppressed, they made them in the 70's, just think what they could do with 2022 tech. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZPReJ-Zhs5_Z8U
@sziluchannel
@sziluchannel Жыл бұрын
Tis is an alpha type stirling engine. Uses two working pistons, a hot and a col one. No need for any displacer action
@mindaugasvaskevicius1818
@mindaugasvaskevicius1818 7 ай бұрын
Awesome, easy and simple. Love it. Too bad you abandoned it. I'd love to see you seal the crank case and pressurize everything with helium, add the regenerator. Love the idea tho, might make it myself considering no special tools needed.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 7 ай бұрын
its not abandoned yet but it is in storage. It might be best to just build a stirling engine from scratch
@mindaugasvaskevicius1818
@mindaugasvaskevicius1818 7 ай бұрын
@@RinoaL well, I don't have a lathe or have access to one, nor I know how to use one, so for me it is best to use as much as possible something that is prefabricated by someone else
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 7 ай бұрын
A 3D printer might be a good path
@NikeL_ale
@NikeL_ale Жыл бұрын
Great video. I would try adjusting some points: Reduce as much as possible "dead space" inside the caskets for better compression ( filling with steel wool may work and add a piece of regenerative efect) Add a regenerator in the pistons link Take off as much heat as possible from the hot cilinder
@JK-zl7vv
@JK-zl7vv Жыл бұрын
It is functioning properly for a stirling engine, so I would like to see this project continued into a stirling engine.😁👍
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
i have found sticking very fine grit paper to a sheet of glass ideal for cleaning mating surfaces and blue printing cases
@pulesjet
@pulesjet 4 жыл бұрын
The Cool side is taking in fresh air. Compressing that air makes it hot. Your dumping that hot air into the next compressor. Nature of the beast.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
no it isnt, its a sealed system. pay attention.
@Madsstuff
@Madsstuff 4 жыл бұрын
See now. That all just looks like fun. Machines doing work and observing them, particularly when designing them and running tests.
@hunterhryciuk8207
@hunterhryciuk8207 4 жыл бұрын
the person is good at what they do
@Madsstuff
@Madsstuff 4 жыл бұрын
@@hunterhryciuk8207 Yes. Rin is rather talented and highly active.
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
i have always wanted to turn one of these compressors into an ice as they have great symmetry
@stepheno8020
@stepheno8020 4 жыл бұрын
Me personally will try for a stirling engine but gesing might be to much friction low power are the stirlings
@garbleduser
@garbleduser 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts: Get a pulley that is not also a fan, or just duct the fan to only blow over the hot side. invert the unit to run upside down to allow a cold finger to be attached to the cold side more efficiently. Duct and insulate the cold side. Attach an air dryer to the cold side to allow liquid nitrogen collection without ice clogs. Hope this helps!
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
i think i should tackle the friction issues first. but yeah thatll be some future experiments i think.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 4 жыл бұрын
As a heat pump: To get a greayer temperature difference, she will need a regenerator. To get very cold temps on the cold side, she will need better cooling on the hot side. As is, without much regeneration going on, she is mostly shuttling warmed air back and forth. With a little compression and expansion driving a relativly small temperature difference. As a motor: I believe she wont get much power given the relativly low pressure and the amount of friction. If she can improve the piston seals and pump more air in, and implement decent regeneration, then she can get reasonable power from that sized stirling motor.
@unagisama5476
@unagisama5476 4 жыл бұрын
that Flintstones mallet is the shit 👍🏼👍🏼
@summerequinocio9171
@summerequinocio9171 11 ай бұрын
Well done! It’s a good job! 👍
@niettefilmen
@niettefilmen 9 ай бұрын
working on similar project, so i must see this
@pasqualemancuso8182
@pasqualemancuso8182 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, you explain very well.
@FrankensteinDIYkayak
@FrankensteinDIYkayak Жыл бұрын
have you thought about putting in a regenerator between the cylinders?
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
@EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 жыл бұрын
If the pipe between cylinders is packed with steel wool, it will stop heat from moving from the hot side into the cold side. It's called a regenerator. IT may develop a knock, if so use nitrogen as a working gas. The difference in terminal expansion properties in the oxygen-nitrogen mix of air produces the knock. The most efficient working gas is Helium - not cheap and needs to at 5bar pressure. Some Sterling engines drive a small pump to pump working gas into the cylinders to get them up to 5bar.
@1kreature
@1kreature 2 жыл бұрын
I would think you'd need the compression side to build pressure into a radiator and then once past the radiator you'd have a constriction with pressure drop where cooling would take place. This could technically be at the input to another radiator. Then you'd connect the suction to that again keeping the cooling side working in a slight vacuum while radiating side works at overpressure.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 2 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't be a stirling cycle though, that'd be modern refrigeration.
@tjgonline1304
@tjgonline1304 2 жыл бұрын
I believe what you missed is that you aren’t cooling the compressed gas to ambient temperature. I would suggest you try running water over the pipe that connects the two cylinders and even increasing the pipes length. To achieve better results you can even pre pressurize the system. Also adding a regenerator between the cylinders would help increase the temperature gradient.
@hunterhryciuk8207
@hunterhryciuk8207 4 жыл бұрын
this person is the best when it comes to building stuff
@2000freefuel
@2000freefuel 3 жыл бұрын
There is a great example of a sterling engine built on an old Chrysler RV2 AC compressor.
@knoblauchwarrenwk
@knoblauchwarrenwk Жыл бұрын
A practical and easily attainable stirling engine design as a backup if fossil fuels become unavailable might be necessary in bad times.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL Жыл бұрын
Yup. It would just require a bit of a retrofit to increase the efficiency. Such as possibly teflon piston rings to lower friction and the like
@randomelectronicsanddispla1765
@randomelectronicsanddispla1765 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe with a few modifications you'd get decent results. - A thicker gasket between the cylinders and crank case to limit heat transfer. - Graphite PTFE piston rings to limit friction. - Getting rid of the reed valve plate between cylinder and head, it restricts air flow. One big issue is the piston rings. If it is a one piece piston, you have to use split piston rings, which means you can't run it at increased pressure, because you can't really pressurise the crank case and you'll get too much blow by. Anyway, good learning material.
@mollyhamilton7919
@mollyhamilton7919 Жыл бұрын
Go for the Sterling.
@johanrheeder1640
@johanrheeder1640 4 жыл бұрын
the one piston gather all the pressure and the other (cooler) one runs mostly on a vacuum overall not a very efficient setup but it does prove that energy will pool in one direction if you apply enough outside work
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 4 жыл бұрын
(Formerly William Montgomery)Try another cereal box gasket where you put the grease. Grease won’t hold pressure. Also coat the cardboard gaskets with grease, rub it in good. I think it will make a better gasket. You have both, may as well right? The motor has a centrifugal switch for start/run if you didn’t already know bet you did. That would make a good video! I saw a video of a guy did some kind of pneumatic thingy that did a thermal air heat cooling thing that seemed to defy normal train of thought. Wish I remembered the link. Enjoyed the vidjio as they say in the Philippines. 😊 oh yeah, you look like Spider Girl!
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that adding more air pressure increases or decreases the efficiency, higher working fluid pressure does increase a Stirling engine's power capacity. The Reverend Stirling used a wire regenerator to increase efficiency of his stirling motor. Heat energy gets stored in a regenerator material during one half of the stirling cycle only to be given up to the working fluid on the other half of the cycle. As is, you have some regeneration along the wall of the tube connecting the two cylinders. But, i suspect that a significant amount of heat energy is going from the hotside to the cold side and back. Thus it does not allow the cold side to get much colder. I'm nearly certain that an appropriate regenerator can get you a hotter hot cylinder and a colder cold cylinder. The regenerator will be a challenge to make, needing to withstand the rate of air flow and not create too much restriction. I had put together a list of materials (now lost) with their specific heat capacity, tempetature rise per gram per joule of energy. Then i added the density of the materials, and found that iron had the lowest temperature per joule per cubic centimeter. I belive this is important because it stores more energy inside a 1 cm cube with a given 6 sq cm of surface area for each degree of temperature rise. Naturally one can increase the surface area for a given amount of material so that more of the material is in contact with the air. In other words, a stainless steel wire screen can hold more energy per degree of temperature rise than an identical aluminum wire screen, regenerator. You also want to minimize heat conduction from the hot side to the cold side so aluminum's conductivity is not ideal here as a regenerator material. If you want to see ice or condensate, then you will need more cooling of the hot side. I really would love to see you make a good stirling heat pump. Best wishes. 😀
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
yeah i have a regenerator ready to use, its just i should tackle the friction issues before i try much else. im thinking PTFE piston rings.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL I'm not a material engineer though i try to understand what should be a good regenerator. Keeping friction low as possible while the device remains useful is beficial for most things.😀👍 Do you think ptfe max 500f/260c opperating will stand up to the heat when run as a motor?
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL i had the thought to use used shock absorbers from a car's suspension to make an inline alpha stirling heat pump. I was thinking the piston heads would be remade with a few ptfe disks and steel fender washers for supports.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
regarding both comments, you wont know until you try. and ptfe and some shock absorbers are like 20$ at the scrap yard for enough to try it several times.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 5 ай бұрын
​@@RinoaL its now very much later from my previous comments. I thought some more on what would make a good regenerator material. 1) It would be a material that can keep the cold side cold and the hot side hot so low thermal conductivity would be one good trait. But 2) it must also have a high capacity to store/release energy each stirling cycle. More specifically it needs a high volumetric heat capacity, aka density × specific heat capacity. Let's compare volumetric heat capacity of 1 cubic cm of aluminum and 304 stainless sterl. aluminum = 2.43 joules/(cm³×degree Celsius) and stainless steel 3.79 Joules/(m³ × degree Celsius). That means 1 cubic cm of stainless steel can store can hold about 56% more energy than a cubic cm of aluminum per one degree Celsius rise in temperature. That fact remains true even if both cubes are shredded to a fibrous wool with both having the same surface area and same dead space. In other words, a larger volumetric heat capacity allows one to store and release more energy each cycle for a given amount of material.
@ancapftw9113
@ancapftw9113 3 жыл бұрын
some sterling engine designs have a piece of steal wool in the pipe connecting the two side so that the two sides have an easier time staying different temperatures. not sure if that would help in this case.
@en2oh
@en2oh 2 жыл бұрын
if it was going to work at all, you should cool the "hot" side. Stirling cyrocoolers are technically, quite sophisticated. but the idea is to have the hot side dissipate as much heat as possible. you're moving heat around. Also, the idea of working fluid pressure is good... but you'd have to block the compressor case vent hole :) Still, you have a heck of a thermal camera! What model is it?
@paulvanvelzer5826
@paulvanvelzer5826 3 жыл бұрын
Two sealed pistons does not a stirling make. You have to convert one piston into a displacer. Then connect the cold side of the displacer to the top of the power cylinder. Then you have a stirling.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 3 жыл бұрын
This is an alpha stirling engine.
@66zingo
@66zingo 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're doing an interesting project. Teach me something and get the lump of fat behind my eyes to start working. I have a couple of different compressors lying around waiting for a new life. A Sterling engine feels a little too complicated for me, I think I need to understand more about the physical principles. The engines I have seen run different volumes on the cylinders, which makes me wonder if it affects the efficiency.
@hs-fp4vp
@hs-fp4vp 5 ай бұрын
For a Stirling engine in that configuration, the piston rods are supposed to be connected to the crank at 90 degrees apart. Is that what's going on with your compressor? Couldn't tell from your video and didn't have the patience to parse thru the whole thing.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 5 ай бұрын
Yeah these compressors are almost always like that.
@hs-fp4vp
@hs-fp4vp 5 ай бұрын
@@RinoaL oh OK, thx! That's good to know
@en2oh
@en2oh 2 жыл бұрын
one assumption I'm not sure is correct. The 'hot side' is the compressed gas side. When you compress 'most' gases, there is an increase in temperature. But the assumption that the 'cold side' is getting colder should be tested. Since it is not a compression cylinder, if might simply be at ambient temperature.
@ronaldch7365
@ronaldch7365 2 жыл бұрын
Have you turned the the air compressor into a stirling engine yet?
@mechmania8450
@mechmania8450 4 жыл бұрын
Would be hard to insulate one cylinder from the other. I wonder how well a single cylinder working into a solenoid operated displacer cylinder would work ?
@vedranbitcoin2827
@vedranbitcoin2827 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work 🔝🔝🔝
@johncarpenter5415
@johncarpenter5415 3 жыл бұрын
Did you take the pistons out and clean them ?
@nickgardiner7319
@nickgardiner7319 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need to have a tight fit on both pistons? If you removed a piston ring on what would become the displacer, would your friction be less?
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 4 жыл бұрын
some info. it may be that, in a two-piston iteration, the hot and cold displacements should be (mostly) equal. i am less familiar with two-piston. cheers
@Znoadrien
@Znoadrien 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say you should use a longer pipe between cylinders, so that the hot air does not get to the cold side. And maybe it should not run si fast. Heat could come from friction inside the engine...
@qownson4410
@qownson4410 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried turning your cryocooler/stirling engine, into a generator? Applying heat to the cold end to get it to work as a heat engine instead? The magnets should generate electricity instead of using it. Unless you've already tried that, I intend to purchase a cryocooler stirling motor and try this myself for an engine project.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 2 жыл бұрын
My goal is a generator, however I need to measure how well it is working, so running it like this is just to see. I would only be able to use it as a generator if running it with a motor got the cold side bellow freezing. But this showed that it doesn't have enough efficiency to work as an engine.
@qownson4410
@qownson4410 2 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL But it's a stirling engine, I'm pretty sure if you heat up the 'cold-side' it will function just as well? Oscillating just like most free piston designs. Only difference is, cryocoolers need input from a motor, rather than heat. I could be wrong, but I feel strongly as though it could/should work..? My friend and I intend to experiment with this, in this manner.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 2 жыл бұрын
Stirling engines and heat pumps are exactly the same thing, just reversed. If I were to put a torch on the hot side of this, it is so stiff and innefficient that it wouldn't make any noticable change. However if I run it with a motor I can see it's so inefficient at this point that it is like 10% of what it takes to even make it turn over as an engine.
@en2oh
@en2oh 2 жыл бұрын
couple suggestions. first, cereal boxes don't make good gaskets. :) Second, if you haven't checked out Blondi Hacks youtube channel, you're in for a treat! Third, if you want to pursue the Stirling Engine Conversion, there are a few details that this paper might give you to save a bit of time. I have to say, your sick-to-itness and willingness to try is admirable! 3 thumbs up from Canada!
@tkmfischerman2582
@tkmfischerman2582 Ай бұрын
Right but I'm dumb so I still don't understand if this means that you could run it by heating one cylinder and cooling the other?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL Ай бұрын
It means that the engine’s efficiency isnt high enough to get much rotational energy from that heat. This thing has a lot of leaks and friction. In order to run it from heat, youd want it to be so efficient that it starts to freeze one cylinder when you power it with rotational energy
@tkmfischerman2582
@tkmfischerman2582 Ай бұрын
@RinoaL Is that because this particular motor is so old and worn, or does it mean that any 2 cylinder air compressor couldn't be used? Because I happen to have quite a few lying around that have never been used
@RinoaL
@RinoaL Ай бұрын
@@tkmfischerman2582 This compressor is still fairly original to how it would have ran, and in this case it means you'd need to more heavily modify it in order to build a stirling engine. It appears the biggest source of friction is metal piston rings. Teflon piston rings might help a lot, or even just teflon pistons. After all this compressor and many others are designed to reach 100PSI, not to reach low friction, so they waste energy in friction to attain a higher pressure. It would probably also require replacing the internal bearings in this in order to make it run off heat.
@tkmfischerman2582
@tkmfischerman2582 Ай бұрын
@@RinoaL Thank you
@joshuabussell9977
@joshuabussell9977 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a geothermal Sterling engine
@steve64464
@steve64464 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm Predator vision..... Get To The Choppah! . Im sure your still make something amazing out of this even if it cant be a sterling engine.
@lucgauthier3201
@lucgauthier3201 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever ear about the hampson linde air liquefier
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@thingyee1118
@thingyee1118 4 жыл бұрын
Looks good!
@woodbalt
@woodbalt Жыл бұрын
You also tried her as a stirling engine? That is - heating one cylinder so that he starts working as an engine?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL Жыл бұрын
Not yet, it wouldnt make sense unless it could get one side freezing cold when run this way. It needs more efficiency
@woodbalt
@woodbalt Жыл бұрын
It's a pity. It would be very interesting to see what happens. There is already a temperature difference between the cylinders, and this is how the Stirling engine works. I would try heating the hot cylinder while cooling the cold cylinder.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL Жыл бұрын
The fact that both sides heat up overall means that it needs more efficiency though, such as teflon piston rings and thinner lubricant. It wouldn't be worth trying if it can't get the temperature lower on one side, because a stirling engine has such low torque that friction would stop it.
@inventorel1232
@inventorel1232 4 жыл бұрын
Hermoso proyecto. Gracias por compartir
@blackinferno57
@blackinferno57 2 жыл бұрын
Could always try charging the system with argon if it's not too expensive for you
@yggdrasil4057
@yggdrasil4057 4 жыл бұрын
You might want to try running it on a higher system pressure
@woodbalt
@woodbalt Жыл бұрын
For a stirling engine to be cold, you have to turn it in the opposite direction................. when you turn it to the right, both cylinders heat up, not just one, one gets hotter, the other less hot, when you turn it the other way, the engine freezes, one cylinder (works) will be very cold, the other cylinder just a little cold.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL Жыл бұрын
That is absolutely wrong.
@manvstaco
@manvstaco 4 жыл бұрын
I want to meet a girl who's down to make a stirling engine! I doubt it will ever happen lol. you're a 1 in a million! Every girl I've ever met or dated didn't really seem interested in them when I showed them the ones I've made over the years.
@barumman
@barumman Жыл бұрын
Me too. :)
@ZanteF12R
@ZanteF12R 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content! I am also impressed by the thermal imaging quality: what model or brand is your camera?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 3 жыл бұрын
therm-app HZ, quite a fancy camera. better than almost anything Flir sells these days
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 2 жыл бұрын
I believe compressors use sae non detergent oils, Like a sae 30 engine oil,
@Janderra
@Janderra 4 жыл бұрын
is there going to be an episode 3?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
i dont see why not, but itll be a while until i feel like working on this again
@Janderra
@Janderra 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL I look forward to seeing it when you do 🙂
@optroncordian7863
@optroncordian7863 2 жыл бұрын
More air flow across the fins of the cylinders. I mean, a lot more. Especialy across the hot one. And a waý to increase the heat transfer with the internal air.
@robinsonbruginski3747
@robinsonbruginski3747 4 жыл бұрын
remove the heat from the hot side, the cold side will get a lot colder. and increasing the pressure will increase the efficiency a lot. use pure helium or nitrogen or co2 not air. (co2 inst good)
@jvmciii
@jvmciii 4 жыл бұрын
Go Sterling - BUT... also check your results from your infrared scan. Note that the cylinders, where the Pistons are up and down, are red because of fiction, but compare the cylinder heads. When you compare the two one is hot and one is cold. What you need to do on both is increase surface area while minimizing the interior volume. Like a pipe in a pipe
@jvmciii
@jvmciii 4 жыл бұрын
If you took a pipe 4 inch (id) as a riser off of the cylinder to a height of 6 in you've just increased your surface area for heating or cooling but you also added volume. If you added a 3 1/2 inch (od) pipe to the cylinder head and inserted it into the 4-inch pipe the 3 1/2 inch pipe, when sealed, becomes a displacer, reducing the volume significantly. You can then insulate the heated side, and add a water jacket on the cooling side.
@jvmciii
@jvmciii 4 жыл бұрын
Also you have an offset pipe going between the two cylinders. If you cut the long end short, and cut it in the middle of the hump, and reattach it you now have a perfect spot to place your regenerator.
@RNA0ROGER
@RNA0ROGER 4 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong but a re-generator would help between the pistons. Also what are you charging this thing with?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
agreed i may add my regenerator to the mix later once i inspect friction issue. and as for what gas im putting into it, so far its just ambient air. i plan to next up the pressure and then maybe switch to a better gas such as hydrogen.
@RNA0ROGER
@RNA0ROGER 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL For real if you are just using air, then those results are beyond good. Also beware that hydrogen can leak really easy so consider working in open air.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
well im expecting this thing to need a constant feed of high pressure air due to leaks anyway. haha
@RNA0ROGER
@RNA0ROGER 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL I'd suggest fixing the leaks and consider using propane.
@christophernewton2579
@christophernewton2579 4 жыл бұрын
That is a nice two-stage compressor if you want to experiment I'd use nitrogen as the working gas nonflammable
@TazerGames
@TazerGames 8 ай бұрын
Any updates on this one ?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 8 ай бұрын
Not yet
@mick62569
@mick62569 Ай бұрын
I think you need to build a displacer . You can't have a Sterling cycle without a displacer. Not sure why you need to test for efficiency. One side would be your displacer the otherside be powerstrock.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL Ай бұрын
You seem to only know about Gamma configuration stirling engines, I'm building an Alpha configuration stirling engine. Those dont have displacers. A regenerator can help though. And the efficiency is needed to be tested to see if it would even run as an engine, which the efficiency isnt good enough for that since the one cylinder didnt get bellow room temperature when powered. Too much friction. I wouldnt try applying a heat source to this engine until I got it to be more efficient
@dandil
@dandil 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen anyone seal stuff with *grease* before. Maybe do that better? Pressurizing should improve performance, but the pressure might leak out pretty quick. try not to pressurize beyond maybe 50% of the compressor rating? insulating the cold side is another easy way to get more impressive results.
@michaeld954
@michaeld954 3 жыл бұрын
Water cool one side mill the cooling fins on the hot side
@user-zp5vt1tu6b
@user-zp5vt1tu6b 4 жыл бұрын
Which thermal camera do you use? The video looks nice.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
Opgal Therm-App Hz
@canadajim
@canadajim 4 жыл бұрын
What IR camera is that?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
Opgal Therm-app Hz
@mick62569
@mick62569 2 жыл бұрын
I a little confused. Are trying to make a engine?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Stirling engines can be run by a motor to test the efficiency
@MJohnRupert
@MJohnRupert 4 жыл бұрын
Please try with a regenerator and the fan in the pully removed.
@KG-yn9qi
@KG-yn9qi 4 жыл бұрын
Well have too look at what your doing in person. To see what your trying to do. But if you did what you think you could do to that compressor. Some one would have done it a long time ago. So for me, I would see if clean it up put it back as a compressor and get some use out of it.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
that is horrible logic, that argues against any innovation.
@KG-yn9qi
@KG-yn9qi 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL well just going off what I seen and know. Just one persons opinion. Dont take so personally. I have a lot of Ideas of making equipment for all kinds of application. Quit a few people have tried to steal and some did. And made money. I did say if was there and could see what it was your trying to do I might understand it. Like said just one persons opinion don't let me stop ya! Also I I subcribed be grateful
@philwoodfordjjj8928
@philwoodfordjjj8928 4 жыл бұрын
Look at the volumes of the cylinders......the displacer (cold side) is smaller, and needs cooling. As can be seen from the picture the cylinder that glows "red" is the cylinder you should heat. This is because the "cold cylinder" or displacer must be at a 90° phase. But as I say, you must have the right cylinder volumes for it to function.....
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
cylinder volumes should be the symetrical for what im trying to do, its about timing on this one.
@philwoodfordjjj8928
@philwoodfordjjj8928 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL What do you mean by timing? I always thought it was the 90° phase that mattered, as the displaces "trails after" the hot cylinder.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
yes, 90 degree timing. piston timing.
@philwoodfordjjj8928
@philwoodfordjjj8928 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL I have been interested in hot air Alphas for decades, and the 90°V twin is the top of the heap. How are you intending to heat the hot cylinder and cool the Displacer? Are you going to cool the regeneration......the pipe between the cylinders?
@ngneer999
@ngneer999 4 жыл бұрын
If you want an air compressor then use that for an air compressor. There's a reason there are no Sterling Engine air conditioners. Peltier Juction devices are cheap and simple and effective. Nice FTIR. Much better than my Cat S60 phone.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
you do realize that stirling cycle cryocoolers are far far more efficient at getting low temps than peltier junk right? thats why almost every MRI machine and Cryopump has a stirling cycle heatpump inside of it. not sure what you are babbling about regarding air conditioning though. Oh and also this is not an FTIR, this is a microbolometer. or is your comment just a big joke that im not getting?
@ngneer999
@ngneer999 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL No, I am serious about everything in the comment. You asked what we think and that's what I think. I admit that I failed thermodynamics twice in college so I've never been interested in Stirling Engines. I've never heard of a microbolometer before.
@verablack3137
@verablack3137 4 жыл бұрын
You could probably get more out of it by taking a steel pipe, capping the ends off, filling that pipe full of steel wool, and drilling holes in the caps to attach flexible fittings to go to the ports on the cylinders. It might not be the most effective regenerator, but it does seem like it would be low hanging fruit so to speak. You could also drill and tap a hole in that pipe and mount a fitting and a valve to let you charge the systems pressure from the regenerator.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
regenerator isnt as important as minimizing friction.
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 2 жыл бұрын
I think a partial vacuum would make it work better, since helium makes them perform better!
@bobi_lopataru
@bobi_lopataru 4 жыл бұрын
You really really need to make an internal combustion engine
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
IC Engines are boring and weak
@bobi_lopataru
@bobi_lopataru 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL If you say so, they have higher rpm, multiple ways of making them higher torque. Everyone likes what they want so I guess I should shut up hehe
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
electric is best but steam power is coolest
@bobi_lopataru
@bobi_lopataru 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL I like steam power too, especially the puffing sounds!
@douglundy5755
@douglundy5755 2 жыл бұрын
Im seeing compression but not a stirling cycle here. This looks like a motor driven heat pump with low efficiency, they use scroll compressors now in refrigeration.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 2 жыл бұрын
Stirling cycle is a heat pump. But yes this is a stirling cycle heat pump
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
i think they is to many losses to friction to work well as a sterling engine not sure what a sterling cooler is
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
stirling cooler is a stirling cycle run in reverse. and yes i plan to isolate the friction, im suspecting the rings. i may replace with PTFE.
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL ah i see rather then the sterling engine been on a cup of hot water it would be on a cup of ice basically small scale models i mean but that big unit on a cup hahaha
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL maybe o rings for the seal
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
no, a stirling cooler would create ice, not run on it. its takes rotational energy to pump heat. meanwhile a stirling engine takes heat to make rotational energy. its a cycle that can run both ways. people drive stirling cycle coolers to create their own liquid nitrogen for instance.
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL oh right ok
@chadmartin5640
@chadmartin5640 Жыл бұрын
Compressors use Non-detergent oil
@nilton61
@nilton61 3 жыл бұрын
Replace the connecting tube with a regenerator
@joecobra48
@joecobra48 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that sub count went up
@anything.with.motors
@anything.with.motors 8 ай бұрын
How are you expecting ice? It wont go below room temp without refrigerant 😂
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 8 ай бұрын
I dont think you know what refrigerant is. Air can be a refrigerant for instance
@victortorresan5688
@victortorresan5688 4 жыл бұрын
try researching stirling engines before trying to build one perhaps one of the first things you should discover is that the pistons need to be 90 degrees apart not 180 degrees as you have.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
wow your a fucking idiot this is 90 degrees
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 4 жыл бұрын
some info. 1) there are BASIC reasons why a heat engine-cryocooler has Never been commercialized. ( can you see them. ) 2) so, why bother??? 3) if the Stroke lengths and cylinder spec's are IDENTICAL, there are (potentially) Major design issues to deal with. cheers
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
hope you realize cryocoolers are stirling cycle.
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 4 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL rat, since stirling cycle was THE core assumption underlying my comment/statements, yer reply makes No sense. try again. ? cheers
@thomasvanwinkle6830
@thomasvanwinkle6830 4 жыл бұрын
If you reject heat from the hot side, the cold side would be much cooler.
@dougpine4746
@dougpine4746 3 жыл бұрын
Good try keep at it.
@Doggystyle944
@Doggystyle944 4 жыл бұрын
12 pack soda boxes
@lucgauthier3201
@lucgauthier3201 3 жыл бұрын
In your setup, you are just a step or two away of it
@dr1verman
@dr1verman 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are doing great, a bit Heath Robinson maybe, but keep going. You need (In my humble opinion) skim the fins on the cold side, except the last one, and fit a water jacket, it does not need a radiator for testing, just a little head. The fins on the hot side need removing, then you need a new/adapted cylinder head for the hot side bcoz you are going to heat that side. Someone said about a tin can in the regen side, that is awesome, give them a big pat on the back. Stirling Engines must be good, they tried them in vehicles in the 70's I think they were too good and they were quashed kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZPReJ-Zhs5_Z8U
@antoninperbosc1532
@antoninperbosc1532 4 жыл бұрын
take care to your lung this old black seal are full of amiante
@schizy
@schizy 4 жыл бұрын
A drill in total futility! 🙄
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
only to an ignorant person
@glasslinger
@glasslinger 3 жыл бұрын
People need to experiment to get a feeling for the principles. No hands on leads to futility!
@glasslinger
@glasslinger 3 жыл бұрын
I meant to reply to ron wilson. oops!
@schizy
@schizy 3 жыл бұрын
@@RinoaL *I guess so. This is an exercise in ignorance. A Sterling engine must be extremely efficient in regards to frictional losses. This project using an air compressor is analogous to making a Swiss watch out of stone.*
@Evokvn
@Evokvn 4 жыл бұрын
second
@luisalbertoperezcobas9840
@luisalbertoperezcobas9840 Жыл бұрын
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