DJ Headphones Go Wireless! AlphaTheta HDJ-F10 Review | Beatsource Tech

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@groovindj
@groovindj 2 күн бұрын
Yeah I agree - adding an onboard transmitter system to their mixers would help the tech take off, and definitely make a receiver pack, enabling people to use IEMs.
@tombyrnerocks
@tombyrnerocks 2 күн бұрын
I could listen to you review wooden pallets and it would still be lit. Another excellent review Mojaxx!
@ReboyGTR
@ReboyGTR 2 күн бұрын
*Sennheiser HD 25.* *Next!*
@germanoborba5889
@germanoborba5889 2 күн бұрын
499 for dj headphones!? 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂😂😂
@djresqvideomix
@djresqvideomix 2 күн бұрын
someone has to pay for branding and marketing 😂 remember Beats by Dre
@cosmicbaggy9637
@cosmicbaggy9637 2 күн бұрын
Lol my thoughts exactly... AT pricing strategy across the board is insane.
@amosluyk
@amosluyk 2 күн бұрын
So pretty much the same as the AIAIAI ones then? Just $200 bucks more.
@AdamGershon
@AdamGershon Күн бұрын
Two things set them apart: Mojaxx claiming these go much louder. I have the AIAIAI and can confirm that on RARE occasion I've come up against their volume limit. And two: the Pioneer/AT name.
@jackmercer4244
@jackmercer4244 Күн бұрын
I've been DJing wirelessly for years, since around 2016 IIRC. I was using an FM stereo transmitter and a pocket FM radio as the receiver. Zero latency, but just a slight audio hiss and occasional static when I walked too far away. Then I found an ultra low latency 2.4Ghz stereo transmitter/receiver set for less than 50 bucks, and I love it. Excellent audio quality, no hiss or static, and ultra low latency as advertised.
@dj_wi_official
@dj_wi_official 2 күн бұрын
Nein Nein und Nein. Wie einfach der Großteil aus dem Hause Pioneer nicht durchdacht. Da habe ich lieber meine Kabelgebundenen HD25 wo man alles austauschen kann wenn was kaputt ist, als einen überteuerten Kopfhörer den ich wegschmeißen kann wenn was kaputt ist. Wifi hin oder her aber im Bereich Dj ist er der falsche Kopfhörer. Wenn Alpha weiter so macht mit seinen Produkten die einfach überteuert sind, werden Sie bald von der Bildfläche verschwunden sein
@LOW3beats
@LOW3beats 2 күн бұрын
9ms is quite a lot for scratching. on traktor i get 4ms input delay with the audio 8 box and 8m/s direct to my Kut mixer and i can feel that difference, and both less quick compared to scratching vinyl
@billscott6819
@billscott6819 2 күн бұрын
Sony MDR7506 or nothing.
@roymoxley2587
@roymoxley2587 Күн бұрын
The best everything else is garbage
@barbaroja.mp3
@barbaroja.mp3 2 күн бұрын
in order for it to catch on, they need a standard and possibly open source protocol. Pioneer has a bad rep on supporting products like this in the long run
@Alexramos
@Alexramos 2 күн бұрын
Not having fast charging is crazy in almost 2025
@Chimmbeez
@Chimmbeez 2 күн бұрын
Why no mention of Audio-Technia headphones as one of the industries best options? I have owned Sennheiser HD-25's prior, and I now own the Audio-Technia ATH-M50x's, and they are every bit as good sounding, comfortable and last as long when compared the HD-25's. I know this may be a bit of a personal gripe, but I feel the ATH-M50x's need to be mentioned when talking about the high quality headphones that champion the market...
@djpsyfest
@djpsyfest Күн бұрын
Own the same (m50x) beats the pioneers any day! Curious about the f10…. PLUR
@DreamPrashant
@DreamPrashant 2 күн бұрын
I use the rode wireless pro mic with attenuator cable & amplifier + custom UE earbuds. It has fundamentally changed the way I DJ!
@cosmicbaggy9637
@cosmicbaggy9637 2 күн бұрын
How? Genuine question...
@PAVEL-JAKL
@PAVEL-JAKL 2 күн бұрын
I will keep my hd 25 for now..
@famKlinteberg
@famKlinteberg Сағат бұрын
Imagine you put on your headphones and receive a low battery message just as you’re about to start a 4-hour DJ set.
@campfred007
@campfred007 Күн бұрын
I'm pretty happy to see this come to market. I've been using Dellinger Labs' Streetheart receiver with their Dani transmitter for the same thing but with my headphones of choice instead. Sure, the Skaa Pro packs are bigger and they have an antenna sticking out but they're also battery powered and the latency is 19 ms in Pro mode. Of course, that latency is also noticeable depending on what you're paying attention to, but I found it to be actually mostly equal to the latency I get with the monitors on stage and even the mains (which are often even more delayed). If Skaa could make a mode that's even faster than 19 ms, they'd have a lot of potential I think considering how the tech has been open for collabs with other manufacturers.
@JYMBO
@JYMBO 17 сағат бұрын
The MXER headphone bag you reviewed not so long ago looks like it would accommodate both these headphones and the transmitter pretty well!
@gregc7699
@gregc7699 2 күн бұрын
Been waiting for these for years hope there good
@MixMasterG
@MixMasterG 2 күн бұрын
Great review and I share your conclusion The moment AT comes out with a belt-receiver I'm all in, until then I'll stick to my IEM/Sennheiser combo.
@germanoborba5889
@germanoborba5889 2 күн бұрын
Sennheiser hd25 €120 AlphaTheta HDJ F10 €500 Really?
@vjdpred
@vjdpred 2 күн бұрын
Actually, it's €620 for the AlphaTheta ( + HD25), because you can't just buy Pioneer without a properly built backup device. And you'll definitely need a backup headphone with this, because just like any other plastic Pioneer headphones, they'll be useless when they suddenly break (and be sure - they will brake).
@DJG-Rebel
@DJG-Rebel 2 күн бұрын
I switched the HD25 to Pioneer DJ HDJ-X10. BEST decision ever. The have a much better sound and feeling while on the ears
@jmoak311
@jmoak311 2 күн бұрын
@@DJG-RebelI lovehow the xdj sound but I hate that you can’t switch which side the cable goes on. I’m still using my hd8 dj sennheisers till the wheels fall off.
@efrn007
@efrn007 2 күн бұрын
I'been using the same X10 headset since 2018, just had to replace the earpads a year ago due normal wear. 6 years and going strong.
@DJG-Rebel
@DJG-Rebel 2 күн бұрын
⁠because everything is built from magnesium parts and no plastic. Basically nothing will break on these 🥳
@DJStanSteel
@DJStanSteel 2 күн бұрын
Sounds pretty cool. It’s a shame as I bought new Pioneer DJ Headphone’s last year. Still it’s def something I’ll look into. Great review.
@richardcole8853
@richardcole8853 2 күн бұрын
Heres what im hoping happens... that this sparks a dj headphone development race amongst the different tech companies, sennheiser included, and results in many different decent options becoming available to us all..(both in-ear and over-ear). Hopefully, drive prices down, too!!
@SkyHigh.GlobalGrooves
@SkyHigh.GlobalGrooves 2 күн бұрын
I 100% agree that I just want a receiver. It allows the most flexibility and you don't get locked in to the headphone ecosystem. Unlikely to happen though.
@meganoid_9001
@meganoid_9001 2 күн бұрын
Of the reviews of this product I’ve heard so far, this is definitely the most useful and comprehensive. Well done, Mojaxx!
@lindsaymaria2876
@lindsaymaria2876 2 күн бұрын
I’ve given up on Pioneer headphones. They just seem to disintegrate with time. Even their top tier headphones. They’re too expensive for that nonsense. HD25’s for the win. Plus I’m not too fussed about a wire on headphones for DJ’ing.
@djarmonic
@djarmonic 2 күн бұрын
Yeah my Shure IEM w/wireless transmitter and receiver works just fine for me🤷🏽‍♂️
@therumbler
@therumbler 2 күн бұрын
Which specific Shure wireless transmitter model are you using for DJIng?
@freshtodeath88
@freshtodeath88 2 күн бұрын
We need a universal low latency transmitter
@UnemployableFakeGuru
@UnemployableFakeGuru Күн бұрын
No latency…. Called a wire.
@KYLOWW
@KYLOWW 2 күн бұрын
Got my bose noise cancelling headphones still and they work perfectly for everyday use. My Dj headphones are still the HDJ-X10s and love them as well
@DjDubbaDutch
@DjDubbaDutch 2 күн бұрын
Belt pack for IEM/make any headphone wireless = insta cop! Great shout Mojaxx
@Vism_DRifTEr
@Vism_DRifTEr 2 күн бұрын
Thank you🙏 if they actually come out with a package for IEM users I’m all in
@SeanyMacHimself
@SeanyMacHimself 2 күн бұрын
AIAIAI just started emailing me about wireless ones coming soon.
@rogiervanbesouw8764
@rogiervanbesouw8764 2 күн бұрын
9 ms for monitoring is unacceptable, audible and unnecessary. Shure PSM300 in ear monitoring system has 0,5 ms and has been on the market for ages. Can't see why A/T could not do better at this.
@lukeannett
@lukeannett 2 күн бұрын
0.5ms is actually usable. Thanks.
@EvilCutz
@EvilCutz Күн бұрын
This! everything above 5ms is a no go for me.
@radientproductions9799
@radientproductions9799 2 күн бұрын
looks great. About time something like this got released. Would also love to see more color variations.
@Carmai7
@Carmai7 Күн бұрын
I’ll wait for the DJ wireless AIAIAI. coming soon.
@AdamGershon
@AdamGershon Күн бұрын
I bought the AIAIAI over a year ago and I love DJ'ing with wireless cans. Would never go back for gigs. On RARE occasion I've come up against their volume limit, but I get it. I also use the AIAIAI for casual listening around the house here and there-they're excellent for a meditation! I play drums and I've used them for practicing along to a song as well as playing to a click in rehearsal. In fact, I think having a cable is even more of a bother in the drumming use case than for DJing.
@AdamBoc
@AdamBoc Күн бұрын
Right, wake me up when the HD25s have these.
@StereoAnthony
@StereoAnthony 2 күн бұрын
Well, that's a big development for sure.
@tonybeatbutcher
@tonybeatbutcher 2 күн бұрын
I can even imagine a mixer and or controller with a transmitter inside 🎉🎉
@bombdiggityarcade7089
@bombdiggityarcade7089 2 күн бұрын
Belt pack kit would be way to go for me. I love my IEM.
@bernercalito8422
@bernercalito8422 2 күн бұрын
I guess I’m going to sell one of my kidneys to buy one
@DeejayWilly
@DeejayWilly 2 күн бұрын
I believe that any headphone that is not around-ear, such as on-ear, is not suitable for DJing. It's more suited for casual listening and monitoring. However, if this headphone offers really low latency, I'll definitely consider getting one.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx Күн бұрын
I totally understand that position, and prefer over-ear myself, but the dominance of the HD25 says most DJs don't agree with you.
@sturdyblock
@sturdyblock 2 күн бұрын
Another expensive Pioneer flop
@priyonjoni
@priyonjoni 2 күн бұрын
Great video!
@r08zy
@r08zy 2 күн бұрын
As someone born in 88 the hd25 was released 36 years ago and not “getting on for 40 years ago” thank you
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 күн бұрын
I’m very much afraid it is! But then, I was born 10 years before that, so I’m not terribly happy about the implication either… 🤣
@DJMANICO1
@DJMANICO1 2 күн бұрын
Good review. But hate it $499.
@tamparey979
@tamparey979 2 күн бұрын
Cool but ill pass
@djreginaldleger
@djreginaldleger 2 күн бұрын
Great review brother
@chrisrioux6436
@chrisrioux6436 7 сағат бұрын
I've been using SKAA's Akiko Pro transmitter and Rush reciever for my IEMS with a mini ANKER battery to power the reciever. All in, about $200 for the transmitter / reciever combo and I can use my nice IEMs to protect my hearing rather than overears. 19ms latency, so more than this, but still pretty hard to notice. And you can add another reciever if you want for B2B sets (the transmitters can transmit to two recievers).
@djranx5519
@djranx5519 Күн бұрын
It may be a minor issue but, it begs the question whether there is any danger of 'brain fry', or be affected by micro level of radiation when using this Bluetooth product for long periods? Or am I being a wuss! Love (all) your videos!
@djsergiubulgar4922
@djsergiubulgar4922 2 күн бұрын
"you may ask why I mentioned Apple?!"... because Apple soon enter DJ industry. And knowing what they do with laptops, phones, etc they may create a best Dj controller (Algoritm) 😀
@djLovelyTime
@djLovelyTime 23 сағат бұрын
Classic Alpha Theta tbh Like you said they could have made a HD variant with this tech but they saw £££ and decided the headphones needed to be multi purpose $500 and no hard case? OUCH! I'm never going to switch away from using Sennheiser Momentum in my day to day, but a HD25 style pair of wireless DJ focused cans, would sway me for a DJ focused solution. Such a missed opportunity
@RC75
@RC75 2 күн бұрын
HD25 and money left over for buying at least 150 digital lossless tracks. The tracks will keep me happy, that headphone surely will not. Great review M👍🏻
@konzekuenze
@konzekuenze 2 күн бұрын
500€ for something that in 2024 costs less than 50€ to produce.... No, thank you. This includes Apple ones, which cost 15€ to produce
@thegamingfrontier3079
@thegamingfrontier3079 2 күн бұрын
If this catches on, the one thing that is concerning is if someone in the audience runs a jamming device to fuck with the DJ. Those devices can be relatively small (think power bank size) based on what's been put out at defcon, so it's real possibility of someone sneaking those into festival grounds. Honestly, where milliseconds matter, I'll stick with wired especially when there's just so many new factors that comes in to play aside from security concerns especially since festivals can be very wet and humid environments, even clubs.
@douglasbudde
@douglasbudde 2 күн бұрын
I still vouch for aiaiai... the latency is not noticeable... but then, I don't scratch... they sound ok and do the job... but to pay €500, no way!
@lukeannett
@lukeannett 2 күн бұрын
I was interested but 9ms is far too long of a delay. Hard pass. Music will simply not match with your foldback monitors you will have to account for the delay. Very useful for headphone mixing though.
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 2 күн бұрын
Again… why not have this built in!!!!🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️
@DJNMIX85
@DJNMIX85 Күн бұрын
Everything indicates that Alpha Theta's new policies are to deliver unattractive and expensive products.
@lordcarloshere
@lordcarloshere 2 күн бұрын
neat 📸
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 2 күн бұрын
It’s like they just make stuff without asking DJs🤷🏾‍♂️😂😂
@djelvis1
@djelvis1 2 күн бұрын
how about they fix the platter on the cdj 3000 so it doesn't keep the record moving when i'm trying to scratch.
@247williamstv
@247williamstv 2 күн бұрын
It’s mad to think that the transmitter is more expensive than a pair of hd25’s. I’ll just wait for the Bluetooth hd25’s.
@ItsWesSmithYo
@ItsWesSmithYo 2 күн бұрын
Raygun face off during my next DJ set coming in hot 😂 🕺
@edwardmowton9825
@edwardmowton9825 Күн бұрын
I'll stick with my HD 25's... If it ain't broke don't fix it..
@johnparker8270
@johnparker8270 2 күн бұрын
Very nice and trick, but do I really need it? I’m not so sure. I can see my hd25s in use for a long while yet.
@DJNickMiller
@DJNickMiller 2 күн бұрын
Meh. It's annoying enough when your adapter gets lost let alone your having to deal with that expensive box
@ThePeteVintage
@ThePeteVintage 2 күн бұрын
How about lossless tracks - are they subject to degradation using these headphones?
@fatsacks70
@fatsacks70 2 күн бұрын
I find the constant recharging of wireless headphones a pain in the ass. The cables never bothered me TBH
@DJSwitchPDX
@DJSwitchPDX 2 күн бұрын
I'll bet $5 USD that the 2.4 transmitter on these will render the Phase completely inoperable. Similarly, I wonder if the Wi-Fi on older MBPs will disrupt these so you end up having to plug in anyway. There's absolutely no reason not to make devices like these 5 ghz instead of 2.4 so we can take advantage of the diversity and use more than one wireless device in our setups. My X10s are falling apart, but if they sound the same and the wireless is still 2.4, I might as well save the cash and get another pair of X10s. Damn ... I REALLY wanted to like these.
@DJSwitchPDX
@DJSwitchPDX 2 күн бұрын
On a positive note, I do appreciate where their head is at, and I think when we all collectively move on from 2.4 and start getting serious about wireless low-latency audio, the next gen version of these are gonna be brilliant.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 күн бұрын
I made sure to gig with these when using Phase, because that was a concern. Zero issues. I would have said so if there was.
@DJSwitchPDX
@DJSwitchPDX 2 күн бұрын
@@Mojaxx Shit. Alright, what's your Venmo? 😁
@phillipmarnik
@phillipmarnik 2 күн бұрын
WiFi channels don't interfere with each other in practice. The same hysteria was there for the XDJ Aero. Don't fear something you do not know fully.
@DJSwitchPDX
@DJSwitchPDX 2 күн бұрын
@@Mojaxx Always appreciate your work man. A pair of "X10s" but with Bluetooth for the same price isn't bad either. I might just go the wired route and play around with the transmitter later down the line.
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur Күн бұрын
wireless means charging.Charging means not forgetting to do so.A wire never needs charging and new headphones can detach wires so you can have spares, long and short..Of course not having a wire restrict your movement inside the booth is a nice idea but we shall see how the new tech fares but always keep a wire ready just in case.
@RandyRosadj
@RandyRosadj Күн бұрын
Im still staying with sennheiser 25 hd nothing can’t beat then and still look a lot better then this….
@sumyumgum
@sumyumgum 2 күн бұрын
The transmitter looks the same as the wave8, can we just re-use the wave8 transmitter?
@gregbarnes6836
@gregbarnes6836 2 күн бұрын
Erm Aiaiai have been rocking this for a couple of years!
@jaycastelli2339
@jaycastelli2339 2 күн бұрын
More AlphaTheta products I see, more away from them I am.
@luisbarrera9656
@luisbarrera9656 Күн бұрын
Wireless tech is interesting but still extremely unreliable!
@Blackbird_80
@Blackbird_80 2 күн бұрын
No thanks, I like my full fidelity audio.
@djxcel23
@djxcel23 2 күн бұрын
This company is bugging out with their prices
@jackmercer4244
@jackmercer4244 Күн бұрын
I want one with a neck band so as to not mess with my mohawk
@DeejayPrawn
@DeejayPrawn 2 күн бұрын
I have an irrational hatred for alpha theta.
@UnemployableFakeGuru
@UnemployableFakeGuru Күн бұрын
Hd25 is a beast.
@D.E.E.P.Y.
@D.E.E.P.Y. 8 сағат бұрын
See you on 10/10 for the next big new product. 😉
@tomlaston3173
@tomlaston3173 2 күн бұрын
I am using the Xvive u4 in ear monitoring system for deejaying almost 3 years now and very very happy with it!
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx Күн бұрын
That system looks great but it's only mono, and sometimes I need to use split cue.
@sotosoul
@sotosoul 2 күн бұрын
It's a cool product but, honestly, are wires that big of an issue when it comes to DJ headphones?!
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx Күн бұрын
I never thought it was, until I tried wireless!
@ghettoshampoo
@ghettoshampoo 2 күн бұрын
Insane price.
@reno5159
@reno5159 Күн бұрын
This is cool- but still needs alot of work imho. With the main reasons being 1) The latency wouldnt be suitable for turntabllists 2) The link would need to be open source. Pioneer cant and wont ever have a monopoly on DJ headphones. If anyone could, it would be our old mate senny 3) you aint supposed to run em while plugged in.. I really want a word with whoever came up with that spectacle! Im not saying scrap the wireless bit, but I dont want yet another device to have to worry about charging! I honestly dont mind having an extra box, less stuff which could potentially interfere with the signal chain internally on the mixer- what really gets me worked up is the lack of ear protecting headphones!! I've used the Vic Firth ones, and again was really disappointed. Even wired theres faults with theirs too. I play drums and you can imagine the disappointment when, after years of playing a renoundly loud instrument- got tinnitus from mixing vinyl on loud PA systems. I've thought for so long this is such a basic gap in the market nobodys tapped into. Valiant effort though none the less. Intrested to see how many people make the switch now its got that pioneer treatment! Fast charging would be a nice addition too. Belter review as always mojaxx. Thanks for giving it to us straight. Like a pear cider.
@JohnFergos
@JohnFergos 2 күн бұрын
Alpha Pricing!!
@djstuc
@djstuc 2 күн бұрын
I don't really get the use case for these? just seems like more stuff to go wrong/stress over... i guess if you're one of 'those' DJs who prance around the stage throwing cakes etc they might be useful, but most guys stood behind the decks are just swaying along and mixing. Ive been DJing for around 25yrs, the first 11 i had around 4/5 sets of Sony and Pioneer headphones, the last 14 ive been using a single pair of HD-25s, still going strong (with new ear pads). Do yourselves a favour and buy a springy chord for the HD-25s, then you can move around without pulling it out and save yourself 350 quid.
@DJBOOGIEMANFROMCUR
@DJBOOGIEMANFROMCUR 2 күн бұрын
Try V-moda, you will never go back
@djstuc
@djstuc 2 күн бұрын
@@DJBOOGIEMANFROMCUR I don't need to though, my 14yr old HD-25s are still working well, for both home and gig use... far better things to spend a couple of hundred quid on.
@bendybenbenderson
@bendybenbenderson 2 күн бұрын
Great review Mojaxx but I've gotta call Alpha Theta out on something here. Doesn't Richie Hawtin use the high-end version of the AIAIAI wireless headphones &worked with them to get the latency down until he was happy to use it in his live shows.....? And still using them today? Needs double checking but I'd hold off on the 1st to market claims for now if I was them
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 күн бұрын
Those are the TMA-2 Studio Wireless+ I mentioned. The latency in those is spot on but they can’t handle the volume needed for DJing.
@profbx5258
@profbx5258 2 күн бұрын
He mentioned them. They are the studio version. DJ comes in January.
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur Күн бұрын
i have tried wireless and the results have not been good .So far a wire directly into the mixer can not be beaten and even if you can get ones that work in your home set up it might not do do well on the road with all the various signals and interference you might get a festival or a busy club.There is a reason dj headphones have not changed much and that is because they just work and do the job that people buy them for.If these or others can make wireless work then it will be nice not to get tangled or pull at the mixer because the wire is too short.So time will tell.
@brayant152h
@brayant152h 2 күн бұрын
Bulky
@DINU_R
@DINU_R 2 күн бұрын
Can the TX and RX be bought separately?
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx Күн бұрын
The transmitter can, but there's no separate receiver, and that's what I want to see!
@mitchwallace4756
@mitchwallace4756 2 күн бұрын
Did we all just forget about Aiaiai??
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 күн бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@CJ-gp9yh
@CJ-gp9yh Күн бұрын
Why always Optimus and skeletor?? Why not He-Man or megatron @mojaxx
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx Күн бұрын
They just happened to be around the first time I did it, and now it's tradition. But I don't have an OG Megatron anyway, sadly!
@OrlandoCooper-j9y
@OrlandoCooper-j9y Күн бұрын
Casandra Shores
@Burnt-ve8bv
@Burnt-ve8bv 22 сағат бұрын
Check out the latest Danny Jones podcast. Wireless devices are detrimental to your health. Along with blue light. Even normal dj headphones are destructive to your health, even if mainly around the neck. I know I will be migrating to using a monitoring stick that is set down after briefly held atop the ear. Listen to me, your musical skills and djing innovation means nothing without your health in tact. Don't be foolish.
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