Serious Upgrades! AlphaTheta DDJ-GRV6 Review | Beatsource Tech

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@abumc5104
@abumc5104 3 ай бұрын
i'm totally not interested in all this expensive digital equipment, but because it's you doing the hard work, it gets a like. 👇🏼
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 3 ай бұрын
mojaxx could explain crop growing to me and i would be glued to the screen. this man just has excellent presentation and review skills.
@neiloughton
@neiloughton 3 ай бұрын
Love how I wake up to a Pioneer announcement email to find the Mojaxx video immediately afterwards.
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 3 ай бұрын
because he and other channels get early access
@neiloughton
@neiloughton 3 ай бұрын
@@m-stat9 Oh yeah, I completely get how it works, just love the fact that its the case. Email from Pioneer then video from Mojaxx with my morning Coffee.
@freshtodeath88
@freshtodeath88 3 ай бұрын
life is good
@Audunforgard
@Audunforgard 3 ай бұрын
Always enjoyable hearing MoJaxx putting Blue Monday through the mincer. New Order owes ya!
@andreiasandei8668
@andreiasandei8668 2 ай бұрын
I just got mine I'm in love and very good sownd quality 👍
@GillmanAudio
@GillmanAudio 3 ай бұрын
This review is fantastic! It's incredibly informative, clear, and honest. It really does what it says on the Tin, (or plastic)
@yaroslavnykyforuk9432
@yaroslavnykyforuk9432 3 ай бұрын
29:57 Not sure how to do it in Serato, but you can adjust grid in Rekordbox on the fly with just a controller. If you go to MIDI settings -> Deck tab, there is GridSlide option and you can assign a button to it. I've assigned one of the pads from Sampler (this is basically my utility page) and at this point you just need to hold this button down and adjust grid position with a jog wheel. Also added grid halving/doubling and quantize there, which reduced mouse reaching with FLX-4 a bit.
@juniorpops7632
@juniorpops7632 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you about the UI of pioneer software, the UI just to busy, as much as I like the software I can’t get used to it. Serato DJ is such easier to look at and understand.
@DKTD23
@DKTD23 22 сағат бұрын
Picked this controller up and I'm happy with it. Really solid.
@groovindj
@groovindj 3 ай бұрын
The drum sync wouldn't be an issue if the beat gridding in other software was as smart as Algoriddim's Fluid Beatgrid system. Overlaid loops on djay Pro stay in sync no problem. It's about time the others caught up.
@onevenmak
@onevenmak 3 ай бұрын
Looks solid, something I’ll definitely enjoy!!
@ReboyGTR
@ReboyGTR 3 ай бұрын
*I love the jog wheel indicactors. Simplicity is key.*
@f3rny_66
@f3rny_66 3 ай бұрын
this is the controller I wish Pioneer released 4-5 years ago
@copeyhagen4249
@copeyhagen4249 3 ай бұрын
You mean the ddj1000
@konanhuet623
@konanhuet623 3 ай бұрын
@@copeyhagen4249 funny how idk how many years later the DDJ 1000 is still the go to. All these fluff features are just toys and the DDJ 1000 is the only 4 channel controller without gimmicks, no wonder it retains its falue so well
@tombyrnerocks
@tombyrnerocks 3 ай бұрын
"Babe, quick! The new Mojaxx video is out!" "Oh great, what's he reviewing?" "I don't care, it doesn't matter!"
@Carmai7
@Carmai7 3 ай бұрын
Grid Nation is slowly but surely taking over!
@bryanfontez
@bryanfontez 3 ай бұрын
Some cool stuff, but there's a dire need for a premium, pro-level, 2-Channel replacement for the DDJ-800 but with Serato and stem features. Maybe an SR3? Let's go.
@dJBoog
@dJBoog 3 ай бұрын
It’s the rev 5. Might not be what you’re wanting but I highly doubt they’ll release something that you’re looking for that isn’t just a successor to that.
@bryanfontez
@bryanfontez 3 ай бұрын
​@@dJBoogthe Rev5 is a battle/scratch controller and nothing like the 800 or SR2. They need a pro, 2 channel club controller.
@dJBoog
@dJBoog 3 ай бұрын
@@bryanfontez What I’m saying is I doubt it will happen because of where it sits in their range of controllers, but hopefully for you they give you what you want.
@bryanfontez
@bryanfontez 3 ай бұрын
@@dJBoog no you're right. It likely won't. But I can hope. I have no interest in 4 channels, they serve no purpose for 99% of DJs.
@nathankabat1276
@nathankabat1276 3 ай бұрын
I love my 800 and would be down for a new version! I expect several more years out of it tho
@PowerOnPlay
@PowerOnPlay 3 ай бұрын
The Stems FX is really nice. Stems Roll on the Vocals or Drums ONLY is just phenomenal! 15:32 Why isn't Stems FX and Pad FX offered in general?
@hilkomenke8340
@hilkomenke8340 2 ай бұрын
Your reviews are VERY VERY good. Thank you for that ❤ I'm a beginner DJ learning on Traktor Pro because I love it's possibilities and features, but aware it might not have a future (which would be REALLY sad) So because of Traktor's uncertain future (and next to a lot of second hand Traktor Gear) I obtained a DDJ-RR to get familiar with Rekordbox and still wanted to get a DDJ-SR2 to get familiar with Serato (since they both do/did hardware unlock) That wás the idea. I dropped that idea now, now I see this unit does all in one bought new for slightly more than second hand RR + SR2. Plus I'm very sure this will get mapped to Djay Pro as well so essentially this device will enable me to learn how to use all these main DJ Software programs on the same controller. The way FX and EQ, filter effects, Loop does really differ between these programs I feel, plus getting to know your way around all the settings/preferences, Midi Mapping options etcetera. Options look similar, operation looks very different.. 99% of DJ's in the Kizomba scene (where my interest lays) are using Serato and Rekordbox, so I feel it's essential to know my way around that software and understand how the hardware that supports it works (Pioneer Looping, Pad FX, how they incorporate stems etcetera) GRV6 is what I need to look out for for that purpose.
@lorenzo6053
@lorenzo6053 3 ай бұрын
Groove circuit: This just Hardware control for the RB sampler as far as I can tell. You can do the same with a set of DJ tools and a loop on a beat playing on a 3rd deck, and have control over nudging and beatmatching thats missing. Use beatloop/roll effect for making breaks. Whats new here? Nice UX on the Serato Stems though love that.
@djphiliptan
@djphiliptan 3 ай бұрын
Agreed about the state of Rekordbox 7... the new features it added from RB6 all feel like they need more UI polish. The square icons are too small, unpredictable beachballing, and we don't need to see the horizontal library panel every time it starts up.
@djriddem
@djriddem 3 ай бұрын
So how does it feel, when you lay your hands upon it?
@ayyjayy5018
@ayyjayy5018 3 ай бұрын
ready for the AZ
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 3 ай бұрын
@@ayyjayy5018 but is your bank account ready? 3200 USD, allegedly.
@djsubculture2111
@djsubculture2111 3 ай бұрын
It would be great if Alpha Theta would release an updated DDJ-XP2 with the "Drum Swap" features built in.
@javigvg3641
@javigvg3641 2 ай бұрын
I didn't get the function that the color fx does when the button is off, it does basically nothing in thet case? I'm interested in this particular dj controller so an answer would be appreciated😁
@davesollows7534
@davesollows7534 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Mojaxx i own a flx6 and a ddj xp2 ... i just ordered the grv6.. the upgrades sound good for the price point.. i do gig but basically this is for creating dope mixes
@IcemanTheDj
@IcemanTheDj 3 ай бұрын
11:11 Bro, is the same as is on DJM mixers. The button flash when respective sound color fx is on! 😉 And BTW, it seems like Pioneer Dj brand is going bye bye... This controller is a solid confirmation of this!
@LayaLightning
@LayaLightning Ай бұрын
What brand you think is gonna take over?
@IcemanTheDj
@IcemanTheDj Ай бұрын
@@LayaLightning I was talking about the fact that new products will no longer be named Pioneer but AlphaTheta
@shouldknowbetteruk
@shouldknowbetteruk 3 ай бұрын
Loving the Groove Circuit feature. Yet again, PioAT release awesome creativity that isn’t available on more expensive ‘industry standard’ kit. They need to bring out a new FX unit to incorporate all this new tech.
@digitalbeatjunkie
@digitalbeatjunkie 3 ай бұрын
Rumours are an RMX 2000 is in development, im guessing it will be like the 1000/500 but with fx paddles off the s7/s11
@orc_dj
@orc_dj 3 ай бұрын
Mojaxx, I was planning to get the FLX 10, but then they launched the GRV 6. I don’t need to connect lighting or vinyl decks, but I’m really obsessed with sound quality. Is the sound quality of the GRV 6 through the balanced TRS even close to that of the FLX 10?
3 ай бұрын
No EQ on the Groove Circuit? Would have been cool if the drums from the circuit could be routed to one of the channels.
@Geo-Media
@Geo-Media 8 күн бұрын
From someone who uses Flx4 and used the Flx6Gt, how is the change / feel of the pads above the jogs ??? I'm soo used to them being below...
@jannikdieterle2170
@jannikdieterle2170 3 ай бұрын
It's nice to see the difference between the flx6 and the grv6 because I dosn't know which Controller I will buy. Nice Video Thank You👍🏻
@kudamah
@kudamah 3 ай бұрын
I'm a vdj user and most of the features that are on this - mainly the stems fx and the way it works - aren't new to me but i definite luv that the effects on the strip aren't software based. Imo rekordbox effects are the cleanest... luv the spiral. Would luv to see how the integration of this unit will work.
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 3 ай бұрын
i'm not a huge fan. instead of the "groove circuit" i think they should have made the pitch fader longer and added master volume LEDs.
@christo-t7e
@christo-t7e 3 ай бұрын
Or needle search , that was one of the handiest features I ever used on a controller , they like removing stuff and adding crap though , imo the older equipment like the sx2 looked and felt much more premium
@john-y1h
@john-y1h 15 сағат бұрын
grv6 come with serato dj pro?
@videoflex6328
@videoflex6328 25 күн бұрын
ive bought it 4 days ago and it doesnt connect wit mac monterey, to rekordbox7 (stays in trial) and serato pro, while at the ddj1000srt it gives direct all options, with opusquad same but now all is gone so if you can do a trouble shooting with GRV6 it would be great! nice tutorial though i cant use it right now
@DKTD23
@DKTD23 22 сағат бұрын
It connected on my Mac OS 18 no problem, make sure you update the latest version of RB7
@hilkomenke8340
@hilkomenke8340 2 ай бұрын
Traktor has Remix Decks function which I use to perfectly set up the beatgrid. I made a Remix Deck specific for this Track Prep function. First I select a Remix Deck drum loop that sounds similar to the drum sound of the original track and loop the original track in a part with clear drums. Then align the beat of the track to the Remix Deck which acts like a metronome but better, fading in and out the Remix loop and the track loop and get them as best aligned as I can, then select a groovy Remix Deck loop for ultimate fine-tuning because at some point you can really feel it coming alive, going all funky 💃 Really good and fun way to perfectly set the beatgrid for me (Provided the track has stable neat not flexible beatgrid)
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 3 ай бұрын
We want a lot of stuff in Serato but Serato won’t change. Algorithm DJay is the future face it!
@melbournerose4217
@melbournerose4217 3 ай бұрын
Really it can't even read the meta-data for flac files properly and they have been trying to fix this for over a year now.
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 3 ай бұрын
@@melbournerose4217 Serato or Djay?
@AvenueCrew
@AvenueCrew 3 ай бұрын
@@melbournerose4217never used FLAC files, always mp3 and wav. Djay Pro for the win 🤌🏽
@DjJohn.C
@DjJohn.C 3 ай бұрын
Great review as always Mojax. Seems a little like Traktor's Pattern Player if you ask me. ❤️
@djestrela2
@djestrela2 3 ай бұрын
this seems far more convenient to use, and disables the drum stem automatically
@SBK_ALL_DAY
@SBK_ALL_DAY 3 ай бұрын
Great review. I have made a couple videos on getting tracks into rekordbox fast and how to set your grids perfectly quickly.
@DjJohn.C
@DjJohn.C 3 ай бұрын
Great review as always Mojax. Functions a lot like Traktor's Pattern Player if you as me. 👌
@djestrela2
@djestrela2 3 ай бұрын
this seems far more convenient to use, and disables the drum stem automatically
@MrAce832
@MrAce832 3 ай бұрын
So, what do I do with my flx-6 now?
@gautamsharma2675
@gautamsharma2675 3 ай бұрын
You can sell me
@MrAce832
@MrAce832 3 ай бұрын
@@gautamsharma2675 how much?
@Naotaku
@Naotaku 3 ай бұрын
So.. is the "Pioneer DJ" brand not a thing anymore? Or is it reserved for pro grade gear only?
@AdventurousMagic
@AdventurousMagic 2 ай бұрын
Best review I've seen to date of this thing. Pumped - mine will be here tomorrow.
@Geo-Media
@Geo-Media 2 ай бұрын
How do you like the controller so far? How's the feel / quality of it?
@AdventurousMagic
@AdventurousMagic Ай бұрын
@@Geo-Media I love it.
@christophelimousin6802
@christophelimousin6802 Ай бұрын
Hi mojax. I bought a grv6 but it seems better to use it with serato isn't ? The options with groove circuit are more better. Your advice ?
@DJMANICO1
@DJMANICO1 3 ай бұрын
Damn good review. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 3 ай бұрын
850 bucks for this plastic trash with many flaws, no thanks, screw AT and better get a standalone Denon Live 4 for just 150 bucks more (still unlocks SDJ Pro if needed)
@DJLyncho
@DJLyncho 3 ай бұрын
Right! And you get engine os anyway. I keep holding back on buying an sc live lol. Waiting to see if numark bring a new Mixstream. Can't wait forever tho
@melbournerose4217
@melbournerose4217 3 ай бұрын
Why would you buy a standalone but want to use a regular DJ software defeats the purpose of the word standalone. Denon DJ/Inmusic stupid logics
@Koxv2
@Koxv2 3 ай бұрын
​@@melbournerose4217same logic as needing laptop to unlock 2 more channels in pioneer xdj xz ;)
@davidlandrum
@davidlandrum 3 ай бұрын
This is a great controller for a home setup. Not everything needs to be ready for a live set in Ibiza.
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 3 ай бұрын
@@melbournerose4217 found the stupid AT fanboy (you). AT standalone gear also works with Serato, now what?? it‘s just an additional option, e.g. when you want to use Stems or video mixing, etc.
@tamparey813
@tamparey813 3 ай бұрын
Cool, nice features, but ill wait and see how far they go with it
@deeejay1054
@deeejay1054 3 ай бұрын
I love this, it could be used in a bar plug and play setting or at home/parties.. great bit of kit with all the bells and whistles FX/Stems too for a good price.. nice one Alpha Theta, and in many peoples budgets too for an entry controller :) one thing .. whats the mic channel(s) like on it - can you EQ it through a channel or only using a level knob ? Also shame you can make use of the 4 channels to input Phono's or Line... 4 channels all through software to me seems a waste :(
@Djfiyahofficial
@Djfiyahofficial 2 ай бұрын
Do we know if we getting a rev6?
@broucke1r
@broucke1r 3 ай бұрын
thanks for awesome review! I still wonder if I will be able someday to accept that Pioneer(alphaTheta) midrange(GRV6) controller cost the same (or even more) money as Traktor high range(s4)?))) But I have to agree that this looks like the real upgrade in comparison to FLX6 and the company turn back to the competition, after Traktor/Rane/Denon/... shows that they really can deliver a lot more to the market for a lot less money.
@Positive_Tea
@Positive_Tea 3 ай бұрын
I’m looking to upgrade my board and the options are wild
@darrentanner6245
@darrentanner6245 3 ай бұрын
Looks pretty cool!! Hoping that the xdj-az leaks are real!!!
@kudamah
@kudamah 3 ай бұрын
There are shortcuts in rekordbox to nudge the beatgrids on the fly @30
@sabinmaharjan9705
@sabinmaharjan9705 2 ай бұрын
download link please................🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@ikun9531
@ikun9531 3 ай бұрын
This model is the most correctly designed one since AlphaTheta kicked in. The function, the layout makes me really happy that a mid-range controller can be this similar to the flagship model as a pro DJ using CDJs. And can't agree more with the rekordbox view, Pioneer DJ (or AT) still needs more work on stability, bug fixing and stem quality especially since they didn't make Serato of their own.
@DirtyRuffdawg
@DirtyRuffdawg 3 ай бұрын
Why does the stems roll panel move when you press the buttons at 37.05 ? $800 is not plastic toy money
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
Do you mean the adhesive overlay which, moments before, I explained I wasn’t actually sticking on?
@DirtyRuffdawg
@DirtyRuffdawg 3 ай бұрын
@@Mojaxx missed that. My bad x
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
@@DirtyRuffdawgAll good! The video is HELLA long, easy to miss things 😂
@DJ.Kvn_
@DJ.Kvn_ 3 ай бұрын
I'm getting numark 4track feels
@dominikkal1994
@dominikkal1994 3 ай бұрын
basically my RMX1000 does a verry similar thing. I can load samples on there too. Minus obviously the stem separation thing which is not there on CDJs
@Inferno77665
@Inferno77665 3 ай бұрын
why is the panel so loose where the stem features are?
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
As I showed before demonstrating that part, it’s an adhesive overlay which I didn’t stick on.
@Inferno77665
@Inferno77665 3 ай бұрын
@@Mojaxx Ohhhh okay. That makes more sense.
@harrisone79
@harrisone79 3 ай бұрын
Opus quad w euphonia mixer section and features and vinyl inputs.
@Greg.Newton13
@Greg.Newton13 3 ай бұрын
When people still flick their fingers up after turning a knob, even on a demo video 😂
@vincewatson_official
@vincewatson_official 3 ай бұрын
@mojaxx surely the Quantize button being on would make the launching of the groove captures to work?
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
I tried all kinds of ways of working with it, and whatever I did, sometimes it was just off. Sadly.
@dooshmasta
@dooshmasta 3 ай бұрын
@2:37 I wish you would explain balanced a little better. It uses polarity inversion to cancel out interference that occur down the cable path and that’s why it’s so much quieter than an unbal signal. It would have taken you two more seconds to say that.
@powderedtoastman3093
@powderedtoastman3093 3 ай бұрын
Need full size tempo sliders
@swiftdetecting
@swiftdetecting 3 ай бұрын
would this work with Traktor 4?
@KHOLEKEV
@KHOLEKEV 3 ай бұрын
The 3-1-2-4 is triggering some kind of primal rage deep within.
@d-zone
@d-zone 3 ай бұрын
balanced is 2 (not 3) conductors and separate ground that's why there is 3 pins on an XLR, not 4. It's a shame the overlays aren't magnetic
@scupakus
@scupakus 3 ай бұрын
They should make stem volume control mappable
@DJRyanJamesUK
@DJRyanJamesUK 3 ай бұрын
@00:55 I used to have that transformer toy on the left doesn't it become a Lorry? Wow thats the best bit of this video lol. You say its a Mid Range controller I've always wondered if the FLX10 is considered a professional grade controller. Im a pro DJ but there is no way im carrying around an XZ its too big and heavy for portable use.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s Optimus Prime! I definitely consider the FLX10 to be a pro-level controller, for sure.
@HardiLange88
@HardiLange88 2 ай бұрын
I bought it today and I am very disappointed with it. Virtual dj program does not work with it. And I also had to install a new rekordbox program because it doesn't work with the old one. Pioneer controller is definitely best I used to mix music with it, but it's hard to even get the tracks on the same speed. Maybe I'm stupid, but I don't like this controller. Now I don't know what to do with it. I'll probably take it back and pay more and buy a pioneer controller.Your introduction was great 😊
@ofootyeabicc201
@ofootyeabicc201 3 ай бұрын
The light flashing thing vs on needs to die. At 11:28 for those wondering. I used a DJM-900NXS2 this week and it drove me up a wall for the beat FX. On or off LED for on or off effect. Guys come on. You know how to turn a light off. I see the blinking. //endrant
@danceb4nine
@danceb4nine 3 ай бұрын
Ain’t gonna lie this is a solid unit. I absolutely love it. I love the look, the way it works and everything.
@eyeamtim
@eyeamtim 3 ай бұрын
How you getting on with the AZ 😉
@craigshagey9999
@craigshagey9999 3 ай бұрын
Good bit kit 👌
@sinesthetix
@sinesthetix 3 ай бұрын
Re: UI/UX I really just wish they would unify things. Rekordbox DJ definitely needs a GUI cleanup but the fact that its workflow is so divergent from the CDJ UX just seems badly planned.
@Mike-wo2dk
@Mike-wo2dk 3 ай бұрын
"Serviceable" sound quality, no pitch bend for the groove box, no hardware grid controls, and a feature centred around Rekordbox stems that Mojaxx admits are not up to scratch with their competitors? Look im a Pioneer fan but even I am not a fan of this product. Traktor and Roland made better stems/drum machine controllers in 2012 and 2018.
@bennisthemenace5417
@bennisthemenace5417 3 ай бұрын
It’s good but not good why doesn’t it have XLR balanced in/out puts
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
It has balanced jacks. Same thing.
@pgfputtinggodfirstbrand6711
@pgfputtinggodfirstbrand6711 2 ай бұрын
who is this guy off the rip I subscribed he funny give a great honest opinion.. lol
@djwaltwhite
@djwaltwhite 3 ай бұрын
so they improved the stems algorithm quality but they only made it available for users of their mid range controller? the users of all the products over this controller cant use it? WTF? Where is this upgrade to the stem algorithm you are referring to in this video at 19:20 where it says "prioritize sound quality"... cause its not in the latest release 7.03.
@profbx5258
@profbx5258 3 ай бұрын
@@djwaltwhite it’s in the rekordbox 7 update for everyone.
@Hypnos_Official1
@Hypnos_Official1 2 ай бұрын
Cheers
@brayant152h
@brayant152h 3 ай бұрын
No Pioneer branded anywhere on it. I'm unsure now.
@AvenueCrew
@AvenueCrew 3 ай бұрын
It’s time Alphatheta make a controller for Djay Pro.
@househeadspeakz
@househeadspeakz 3 ай бұрын
As a mid-range controller user, I am disappointed with this one. I was hoping for AlphaTheta to upgrade the DDJ 800 instead of the FLX 6 DJ hardware. I'm not too fond of the jogs not having the display in the middle. I'm not too fond of the pinch slide being smaller. Mostly, I don't like that RB hasn't approved STEMS. Since I still use RB 6, I am not certain this hardware will work on it. AlphaTheta has gone backwards with this and it is not worth the USD 839 price. I would rather update to the DDJ 1000- or the FIX 10.
@MrSamuel9126
@MrSamuel9126 3 ай бұрын
For the price I'll prefer something more solid like the Traktor S4 mk3, which offers built in displays, motorised jogs and a built in mixer. The GRV6 is a bit overpriced, it would be affordable if it was the same price as the flex 6.
@Geo-Media
@Geo-Media 3 ай бұрын
I think $749.99 is okay, still a bit high for this. But to price it the Same as the Ddj-800 is wild to me
@hilkomenke8340
@hilkomenke8340 2 ай бұрын
How come as such a big brand which so much hardware, renowned CDJ's and Mixers and beavy $$$$ Controllers, do they have such extremely sh🥸t software?!?! It's crazy. Poor Rekordbox users.. Stable maybe, but cr😬p in many ways.. I'm really interested to see how Djay Pro maps this, all the extra features included. Might be their real breakthrough if they get the mapping rightly combined with all the hardware controls. A proper 4 deck controller with lots of hardware functions to utilize their good quality realtime Stems in a creative way plus to my knowledge decent effects, for a monthly subscription half the price of what Serato charges and MUCH better than what brand-own Rekordbox is able to provide. And really interested to see what other controllers come out in the next 2 or 3 years in terms of hardware/software combo stems control, plus maybe more of the Remix Deck like drum-replace effects/functions that you showed were implemented as a Rekordbox function. Stems functionality is really going to DJ'ing possibilities in a lot of genres 🤩
@djNineshoxxx
@djNineshoxxx 3 ай бұрын
No XLR’s is a fail in my view i will give credit for the hybrid style set up bridging the gap between producing and DJing it maybe that we see more devices utilising this hybrid style format what i would like to see is a motorised standalone device with these features and have xlr’s of course
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
It has balanced jacks.
@djNineshoxxx
@djNineshoxxx 3 ай бұрын
@@Mojaxx but for the price wouldn’t xlr better?
@OhHeyItsShan
@OhHeyItsShan 3 ай бұрын
So you build up a reputation over decades as "Pioneer DJ", the club standard, name know for decades for quality before even the DJ equipment came out and then because you buy out the company, decide to rename it to your crappy unknown brand? Can't wait till I'll have to say "But its Pioneer in every other way..." or someone quips about "Looks like a knockoff Pioneer", probably some Chinese company trying to break into the market. You already have a solid name - why the f**k would you change it? It's not like Pioneer was a shitty or bad reputed name. Sure one can argue that even though it held the top spot in clubs, Denon and other brands were pushing the envelope further in features and price, but Pioneer was a name everyone saw and knew. If the name doesn't need changing, why change it?
@Positive_Tea
@Positive_Tea 3 ай бұрын
Enshittification by venture capital.
@profbx5258
@profbx5258 3 ай бұрын
@@OhHeyItsShan Pioneer Electronics spun off AT in 2014. They have not been involved in the creation of any DJ product since then. The current CEO was the engineer of the CDJ-500 jog and the DJM-909 fader, among many other things. Most of the employee base has been at AT since before 2014. So yea, it is the same people and the same product, and that does actually matter. You still have your Pioneer DJ gear, that you can buy right now. What’s wrong with actually establishing an independent identity?
@profbx5258
@profbx5258 3 ай бұрын
@@Positive_Tea there is no venture capitol ownership.
@OhHeyItsShan
@OhHeyItsShan 3 ай бұрын
@@profbx5258 You missed the core of my argument. My issue isn't with the people or products, I know the same engineers who built Pioneer DJ's reputation are still with AlphaTheta and I wasn't doubting their skill, now or in the future. The real question is: why rebrand a name with so much weight in the industry? Pioneer DJ isn't just a product name; it's synonymous with club-standard equipment worldwide. A brand like that carries trust and recognition that new names take years to establish. Changing it to AlphaTheta, a name no one knows, risks confusing customers and damaging brand identity. This isn't about staff capabilities; it's about brand equity. Pioneer DJ has been the go-to in the industry, and rebranding to an unfamiliar name feels like a step back. It's like if Coca-Cola rebranded to "Cola Blaze", it might be the same product, but most people wouldn't recognize it. You've just given Pepsi an edge. In an industry as competitive as DJ equipment, a strong familiar brand does matter. Why risk alienating customers when you already have decades of built-up recognition?
@kiwi2035
@kiwi2035 3 ай бұрын
my understanding was trademark issues, and it was easier and safer than to move away from the pioneer brand on their own terms than go to court and be ordered to drop it overnight
@LarryZinc
@LarryZinc 3 ай бұрын
Still a FLX6 at heart and I will still hate it.
@profbx5258
@profbx5258 3 ай бұрын
Ayyyyyeeee
@052RC
@052RC 3 ай бұрын
I don't see what the big deal is with balanced outputs. If you need them, just get a DI box. Its one thing if the components themselves are balanced, but they're not. Its just point to point. Not only that, the single ended to balanced conversion on the output of the unit is going to be the cheapest possible thing money can buy. With an external DI box, you can buy a cheap one, or a really good one if you want better sound. You're not locked into the one on the controller.
@Soufside_Slim
@Soufside_Slim 3 ай бұрын
Pioneer/Alpha Theta needs a new iPad controller, maybe a new WeGo 5 to compete with the Mixtour Pro. This is another Rekordbox gimmick without XLR cables.
@coopercooper58
@coopercooper58 3 ай бұрын
Hoowww do I feeel 🎉
@DynMarkMusic
@DynMarkMusic 3 ай бұрын
I think it has hardware effects
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 3 ай бұрын
It doesn’t, everything is done in software on here.
@DynMarkMusic
@DynMarkMusic 3 ай бұрын
@@Mojaxx make sense since Rekordbox is using the software effects
@dnbhead420
@dnbhead420 3 ай бұрын
Hell no, its just flx6gt on steroids and with some cancer at the upper part. The only good thing on this is dedicated FX knob, but is this worth over 800 bucks? I'd rather add 400 more and get used ddj1000...
@dejantetickovic4478
@dejantetickovic4478 3 ай бұрын
AT creating a virtual competition on the DJ market. Polluting the world with more plastic and yet another controler. Apple tactics, new model every 2 days....
@gaviscon4304
@gaviscon4304 3 ай бұрын
You can even have fun with stickers how much fun, but not for me.
@MonSTARo919
@MonSTARo919 3 ай бұрын
Think I'll j just upgrade my flx6 to a rev 5 or flx10...this is a nice looking controller but seems a bit gimmicky
@oboythakid7826
@oboythakid7826 3 ай бұрын
Mane I been thinking the same idk if I want rev 5 or this controller I might get rev 5 I like that two djs can hook up
@oboythakid7826
@oboythakid7826 3 ай бұрын
DJ ‘s
@MonSTARo919
@MonSTARo919 3 ай бұрын
@@oboythakid7826 that might be the best option considering the price tag of the flx10
@CyanideSoundSystem
@CyanideSoundSystem 3 ай бұрын
Look kool I guess
@angelocatalano
@angelocatalano 3 ай бұрын
requirements to use all of that: macbook pro m3/m4. Add 2.5k $ to the controller's price.
@Aves_1
@Aves_1 3 ай бұрын
You definitely don't need an m2/m3 pro
@dancarthen3634
@dancarthen3634 3 ай бұрын
$829 and no XLR is crazy
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