Massive Airbus News

[@toms5996]

Fantastic for Airbus. I hope AIrbus continues to be what it has been always - slowly building it's technical knowledge, slowly building its manufacturing & QA and slowly continuing with innovation.🇪🇺🇫🇮

[@Turboy65]

And I hope Boeing STOPS doing the EXACT OPPOSITE.

[@FrewstonBooks]

@Hypersonic-es6vh The Boeing display at this year's Farnborough show concentrates solely on improving its design and manufacturing processes, and change in corporate culture, rather than on new models (no planes will be on display!). So maybe Being will change - I believe it knows it has to if it wants to remain a player.

[@user-yt198]

Fun fact: As of 31 December 2023, number of A320s in service *(10,562)* is greater than number of grand total of all Boeing aircraft in service from 717 to 787 *(10,208).*

[@ElbowShouldersen]

But not by dollar-value... not even close.

[@ElbowShouldersen]

It would be interesting to compare the inflation-adjusted dollar-value of the entire commercial plane output of both companies... starting, I suppose, when Airbus was first formed... or maybe it would be a more legitimate comparison to do it over just the last 20 years or so...

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

WE GET IT ALREADY!

[@ElbowShouldersen]

@@Thesmellofrain-h6o ...get what?

[@xchomphk.9788]

@@ElbowShouldersen that boeing overcharges

[@hungo7720]

The XLR extended range and versatility can greatly complement carriers' operation especially in niche markets. Undoubtedly it will be presumably a resounding success for Airbus.

[@raybrown2197]

At long last a 757 replacement, Boeing missed a trick by cancelling the production of both the 757 & 767

[@ricky1231]

The order book dried up And 767 was only freighters & military It was difficult for Boeing to justify keeping the line open & expensive too The airline industry strategy fluctuates so much depending on fuel prices & new engines. What is worse the airlines copy each other too

[@nickolliver3021]

Sales and efficiency proved it had to be shut down

[@Hans-gb4mv]

You mean the cancellation of the NMA/797

[@12345anton6789]

The 767 does not comply with the new emission and noise limit that comes in place from 2028. So no new 767 after this date

[@colestock9980]

787 could be seen as 767 replacement, and at the time there was no demand for a high capacity narrow body

[@mikereddy-x9f]

This certification is going to be an enormous stimulant to extended and affordable air travel. Bravo Airbus!

[@gretareinarsson7461]

Fantastic new. Brights future fro Airbus and airlines.

[@dhruvasammeta69]

Now, truly, we will see the rise of ultra-low-cost long haul, Don't be surprised if the market growth is proportional to how many of these airbus can make, what time to be alive.

[@vashonm]

Not really from the usa many european airports already flight caps

[@dhruvasammeta69]

@@vashonm South america and asia are primary markets, also the EU nations are playing catchup to demand, it's a process, but definitely groth.

[@yonghominale8884]

And its taking how many years for the 777x to be certified.

[@GarlandTexasSpotter2024]

777x began certification flights from the FAA, then it will be certified once FAA approves it.

[@jungbolosse3034]

​@@GarlandTexasSpotter2024Once Boeing instructs Congress to instruct FAA to certify the 777x

[@GarlandTexasSpotter2024]

@@jungbolosse3034What about 737 MAX 10 & 7?

[@jungbolosse3034]

@@GarlandTexasSpotter2024 Same

[@kaamsogrimm]

XLR jetblue needssssssss

[@BrandNaz]

I believe they will get them

[@df3555]

They are on order.

[@kaamsogrimm]

@@df3555 obviously

[@ivanviera4773]

It would be interesting to see what routes Jet Blue, AA and United are going to put the XLR.

[@747forever9]

Thanks for this Dj!!

[@CrazyLlama771]

I recently flew transatlantic on an A321neo and I’ll never do that again. It simply couldn’t compare to a wide body aircraft.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

There is no difference as a passenger. The seats are the same.

[@FrewstonBooks]

I flew on an A321neo STN to YYZ and back on Premair (now gone). Great flight, and more comfortable than on many widebody flights.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@FrewstonBooks I did Amsterdam to JFK on JetBlue A321LR. Amazing flight. 20 min of boarding. 10 min to get off the plane. 15 min later I was street side after clearing immigration and getting my bag. When you don’t have 400 other people going through immigration and all their bags, stuff tends to move along much quicker.

[@jantjarks7946]

Yeah, you need a narrow body to fit into the narrow seat. Most people won't even fit into the narrow plane itself. 😉

[@CrazyLlama771]

It was an Aer Lingus flight to Dublin. The seats were very uncomfortable, I couldn’t sleep and the food was the worst I’ve had on a plane.

[@sh230968]

Short and sweet update. All the best to Airbus.

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

Good morning! The XLR is definitely a game changer. I just won’t fly one long distance.

[@masonofaviation786]

Would be interested to know why... Me and friend are tempted to get down to Madrid to fly on the first flight in service

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

@@masonofaviation786 I’m speaking long distance as in USA to middle Europe. If I had a choice. :-)

[@masonofaviation786]

@@Thesmellofrain-h6o think first flight is supposed to be Madrid to Boston.

[@charlesjay8818]

I bet you will for the right price like everyone else. Jet blue flies narrow bodies from east coast to Europe and it works. If your on a budget then if the price is right you will fly it If your wealthy then you will book business class and you will fly it

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@Thesmellofrain-h6owhy wouldn’t you? Seats are the same or even more space than some wide bodies. I’ve done Europe to JFK on JetBlue. I flew business class, which was amazing, but even economy seats were nice and roomy.

[@bryantickle8197]

Good news for Airlines wait till they come with the stretch version which could be possible😊😊

[@holdensv2000]

Hi there DJ awesome stuff here Airbus is the only one that can do it hats 🧢 off to they for reaching this milestone 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@rupetto1959]

fantastic news for this well done plane

[@shawnmartin9198]

Getting ready to build 3 engines for these next week. Good stuff!

[@PeteSty]

GO Airbus!!!

[@michaelshore2300]

Safety objections to extra fuel tank coming from Boeing

[@gerhardma4297]

What else would you expect from a company that is broken down to the last cell? Always pointing the finger at others, see Bombardier, but not getting anything right for years. By the way, you are a few years too late with your statement. The tank has been redesigned and the protection reinforced. Hence the release now.

[@jacobzimmermann59]

Not really, that was a PR stunt more than anything else. In reality the concerns and redesign requirements came from EASA which, thankfully, was doing its job, not like the FAA.

[@jantjarks7946]

Input from all of the aviation industry was requested by the authorities. A completely normal process. I'm glad that safety was improved for the type due to this.

[@jungbolosse3034]

Now we are talking.❤❤

[@TC-pr3ji]

10 hour plus flights on a narrow body.... Nahh... I pass !!!

[@FrewstonBooks]

This is what was normal back in the 60s and early 70s - 707s, DC8s, VC10s, mostly. 747 didn't enter service until 1970, and DC10 and L1011 1971, and then only on US domestic routes for the latter two.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Your seat is the same. So what difference does it make? You run laps in the isles?

[@jantjarks7946]

If you don't fit into the tube, it doesn't matter how comfy your seat is, indeed. 🌬️✈️😉

[@toms1348]

​@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 , as a matter of fact, I walk laps...good for the circulation on long flights.

[@Toby-bm4nn]

How long before the FAA follows suit ?

[@yonghominale8884]

FAA certification is a formality because of the extensive testing.

[@MrSchwabentier]

usually 6-10 weeks after EASA. It's the same for Boeing aircraft the other way round.

[@devonc8411]

Good news.

[@grahambaker6664]

It will be interesting to see how long it will take for Airbus to start offering derivatives of the A321XLR. Commercially there is likely to be a market for freighters that can fly directly to smaller cities thereby reducing cargo handling and speeding delivery times but there is also likely to be a healthy market for military variants to challenge the E7 and P8 where the greater range translates to more time on station and the larger hold dimensions allow for greater payloads.

[@TM-nu5vd]

When will the FAA certify?

[@MrSchwabentier]

Usually it take 6-10 weeks after the EASA certification

[@smallmj2886]

I hope that Air Canada uses it for a Montreal-Dakar flight.

[@r12004rewy]

Brilliant news for Airbus and only 2 years for certification ( that's how it should be done Boeing) This XLR is going to be a massive success for Airbus, its going to be a game changer for operators and will be very popular with passengers who will feel comfortable and confident on Airbus.

[@SanMarinos]

6 hour flight on a narrow body? No thanks! I’ll take my 777X

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@SanMarinosseats are the same or even better. So why would you need the 777? Do you run laps? Also, you travel with a much smaller group. They board the whole plane in 20 min. When you land, you are off the plane in 10 min. And at immigration, you are in line with 180 is read of 380 passengers. Last time I flew JetBlue from Europe to JFK, I was through immigration, had my bag and out on the street in 15 min.

[@cpgoef6]

The A321 NEO series is good but the power a 757 could develop and be able to operate in high/hot/heavy conditions is still unmatched unfortunately. Boeing should have taken the 787 and made a single aisle version of it and called it the 797. This was similar to what they did with the 767 and making the 757. Oh well, their loss.

[@Cosmic146.5]

Or they designed a new aircraft which can replace the 737 and 757, instead of making the MAX. They would have a solid product against the A320neo Family.

[@alvinloh9068]

@@cpgoef6 People don’t understand that these high/hot/heavy conditions constitute less than 5% or maybe 3% of the requirements, statistically speaking. Although the LEAP-1A engine isn’t comparable performance-wise to the 757 (of course), with its lighter airframe and, once again, huge efficiency gain with the operation, many operators would inevitably slowly replace the aging 757 from the fleet. The A321XLR could do 98% of missions of the 757 minus those extreme conditions with short & high elevated runways.

[@quicksesh]

Problem is that the 757 was design for a market that really didn’t exist. It is in fact over capable for what the market wanted, but it was a brilliant design, but it was more of a case of a solution in search of a problem. Thus day and age, efficiency is key and in that respect the 757 falls short. Boeing need a clean sheet design to replace the 737 and in doing so could fill the niche that the 757 covered.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@alvinloh9068agreed. But not only that, people compare the a321xlr performance with the 757 both at max take off weight. Which isn’t fair, since the XLR can fly an extra 1000 miles. So if you reduce the fuel load to the same range as the 757, the runway performance at hot and high airports are comparable.

[@NoManDetected]

Love this new aircraft! Jst wondering, where do the cabin crew sleep?

[@quailking8265]

This will be a gift to budget airlines who use a320 family like Easyjet, Jetblue and Indigo as pilot training and parts issues are easily addressed. Also, I feel it will make low cost long haul very easy now

[@FreeDemocracy-2025]

I remember when Boeing cancelled production of the 757, they said they did not want to enhance it because they felt there was not enough demand for a niche aircraft. One of the many screw ups Boeing made by not advancing this great aircraft. The 757 was way ahead of its time and would have really out shined the 321XLR, if the 757 was MAXed.

[@chipdale490]

Nope. Although the 757 is a fantastic airplane it is way overbuilt due to its communality with its bigger sister, the 767. Not efficiënt in a time of 'lean and mean', it's just too heavy. The ever increasing capabilities of modern narrowbodies have rendered the 75 obsolete. It still is a great 'hot and high' device though.

[@StopMediaFakery]

The A321 XLR is considerably more efficient and has a longer range. I don't see how the 757 could outshine it.

[@YamiPheonix531]

With Boeing too broke to invest in a 797 NMA airplane, I’m happy that Airbus can fill the void of airliners retiring the 757 and replace them with the a321neo XLR. Now Boeing has to get the 777x certified to fill the void of airliners retiring the 747 airplane. It has been 4-5 years overdue.

[@sam.v4]

nice

[@jmWhyMe]

I will never by choice fly on an XLR. As an elder disabled person, 8 hours on a single aisle plane are downright hazardous

[@duingtime]

Who wants to ride that long on a single isle aircraft. Certainly not me!

[@tomstravels520]

Those who want a direct flight instead of a stopover

[@charlesjay8818]

Your obviously in the minority Almost everyone will choose this if the price is right. And this plane will be able to connect cities with low load factors & large distance. So for example NYC to Budapest. Alot of people would love the cheap price and a direct flight People in economy are very price sensitive. If the price is cheap they will fly it. Ryan air is Sh£t, but 149 million people fly them because they are cheap People in Business are wealthy and not so price sensitive, so will fly business class 1+1(like Jet Blue transatlantic) so not a problem And the lure of connecting even more cities with a direct flight is just a win win

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Seats are the same. So what’s the problem?

[@alicelund147]

Is that the final certification? Or is there one for USA as well?

[@Cosmic146.5]

It's only Europe. US and other countries need to certify it, but it will be done in 2-3 months

[@jamesclarke8564]

Great news, I'm hoping for flights for direct flights Perth to Japan, Korea, and China with this one.

[@grahambaker6664]

There are probably a lot of potential routes out of Perth not only to Japan, Korea and China but also to India and other Asian airports in Vietnam and Malaysia. The problem will be airport capacity. Whilst they have given the green light for the parallel runway at Perth International the state government should also approve the conversion of Murrayfield to become Perth's second airport so zoning decisions have to account for the future use and transport infrastructure can be established. Perth will probably need that airport by 2035 at the rate that demand is expanding and an airport to the south is going to be more viable than going to the north where traffic would have to compete with the RAAF around Pearce and Gingin.

[@jamesclarke8564]

@@grahambaker6664 Sounds good, but our governments here are never visionary enough on these things compared with Asian countries. It would work good though and it shouldn’t be too hard extend the Mandurah train line to Murrayfield.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

I'm curious to see what routes will be enabled by this aircraft.

[@pathslesstrampled9906]

Long range single aisle NO THANK YOU

[@charlesjay8818]

Your obviously in the minority Almost everyone will choose this if the price is right. And this plane will be able to connect cities with low load factors & large distance. So for example NYC to Budapest. Alot of people would love the cheap price and a direct flight People in economy are very price sensitive. If the price is cheap they will fly it. Ryan air is Sh£t, but 149 million people fly them because they are cheap People in Business are wealthy and not so price sensitive, so will fly business class 1+1(like Jet Blue transatlantic) so not a problem And the lure of connecting even more cities with a direct flight is just a win win

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Seats are the same or better. So why not? Do you need two isles? You run laps?

[@Fish29077]

This aircraft including A220, A320 Neo family is replacing the Boeing 737-800 in the Qantas fleet.

[@andrewmooney4562]

Airbus build good airplanes. I flew the A321 long before the NEO and always enjoyed the airplane, though when heavy it has limited altitude capability which can be an issue with weather, etc. and NAT Ops may thus be problematic at times. It should be a moneymaker though. Too bad the 757 is no longer an option.

[@azeoprop]

737 max ultra pro + coming soon. 😂

[@patrickpeters2903]

It will be very interesting to see if this type of aircraft will compete with the widebody segment. I do believe it will create, and/or revive, new routes where the demand is cyclical or seasonal. I can't wait to see which airlines will order it in the coming months....the B757 was mainly for transatlantic connections. What about the panafrican market?????

[@jantjarks7946]

It's creating a niche market for itself. At least that's what I expect.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Is there a doctor in the house? Nicky Oliver needs oxygen.

[@miks564]

...I can see every company wanting long range flights with very cheap (by comparison) operational costs... but not really my cup of tea. I'm not happy about long flights on narrow bodies. I hope I can bypass them. ...and with the continued increase in number of flights, air traffic jam, lack of airports slots availability, lack of crew, I'm wishing for the opposite: more wide bodies on short routes taking the formula why send two planes with two crews if you can send just a bigger one?

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Seats are the same. So there is no reason to bypass. With the XLR, the idea is more direct flights from smaller airports. The traffic jams exist, because people need to fly from Pittsburgh to JFK first. And from Charlotte to JFK, before piling on to a wide body and fly to London. That’s why you have traffic jams. With the XLR, they can have a flight from Pittsburgh straight to Stansted (small airport by London) and from Charlotte to Stansted. This reliefs traffic at JFK and London Heathrow. A 767 costs $15000 per hour to operate. An A321 cost $7000 per hour. So yeah, cost wise, you can send two.

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

So Boeing will stop making plane?

[@aidanclarke6106]

Yes, they want to focus on space capsules 😂

[@AviationLoverIndonesia]

Nah, they won't 👀

[@azeoprop]

Premium heavy 1+1 biz class 2+2 Premium economy and 3+3 economy layout would be nice for an 8hrs flight.

[@charlesjay8818]

Whats nice about a 3+3 economy layout for 8 hours?????

[@FrewstonBooks]

@@charlesjay8818 That was all that was available in the 60s and early 70s. I flew 707s, DC8s and VC10s all over the world back then. I was much younger back then of course, but never more of a problem than a widebody today,

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@charlesjay8818it’s worse on wide bodies. Now only a third of the passengers have a middle seat, instead of half the passengers.

[@Aviation789]

Middle East Airlines MEA 🇱🇧

[@swanvictor887]

Great for Airbus, lousy for the poor sods who are going to have to travel long-haul in a sardine can! Not for me: I will hold out on my trips to Europe from S.E Asia, to airlines with A380s and 747s for as long as I can....!

[@abarratt8869]

Could be OK. It won't be an Easyjet experience long haul; there'd be IFE, service, a longer seat pitch; really it could be no worse than any other long haul experience. It's wider than the old 757 too, so that's worth something. But yes, it won't match A380 for long haul; that really is a tremendous airliner.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Poor sods? You think a wide body is less of a sardine can? The seats are the same, even better actually. You have a lot more “middle seats” in a wide body. I don’t think you understand how wide body and narrow body doesn’t impact your seat.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@abarratt8869nah, A380 isn’t that great compared to the XLR. They can board the XLR in 20 min, versus 1 hour. After you land, you are off the airplane in 10 min, then you are at immigration in line with 180 passengers, not 480 passengers. And don’t forget, direct flights from smaller airports.

[@swanvictor887]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I can get up and go for a walk in a 747 and an A380, meet interesting people, chat to the cabin crew, get some exercise....can't do that in a sardine can.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@swanvictor887 you can do the same in a single isle. You can walk and stretch your legs, talk to whomever you want. You won’t be doing it with 400 plus people. Both are sardine cans. The bigger can just holds more people, so each sardine has the same space. I just did Amsterdam to JFK on JetBlue. It was a great experience. I was in business class and it was one of the best Atlantic crossings I ever had. Boarding started 20 min before departure and we still pushed back on time.

[@GJGBTL231]

Yes it was a very busy 24 hours for Airbus Absolutely right BUT it was a very busy 24 hours for the airline industry 1.000s of cancelled flights and 10.000s of stranded passengers around the world And it all started in Australia 🇦🇺 And NO even a single word about it 😮😮😮 Why you disregard this news??? I really don’t understand it

[@evilelf5967]

if this aircraft sells in the numbers expected then boeing really have dropped the ball.they have a mountain to climb in respect of regaining customer trust.the mind boggles as to what their boardroom boys were thinking.

[@AndrewLarson-mq7xc]

It's will be great till it anit

Boeing has everything it asked for coming to it Oh well

[@santosksahoo1388]

How come it’s a game changer with same engine and with more fuel. It’s certainly very good at this moment not changing any game . Simple rule for narrow buddy how many trips you make per day not how long you fly.

[@StopMediaFakery]

It's the range. It will allow airlines to operate between smaller cities over a longer range. An example being connecting smaller US cities directly with Europe.

[@santosksahoo1388]

100% agree

[@richardfelixgoncalves1641]

Well, it would be great if you would buy one of these aircraft from Delta Airlines, or at least from Air-Baltic, which is used by the Air-Bus A220-300.

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

No impact on me I don’t fly buses! 🤷‍♂️

[@alvinloh9068]

Like people here couldn't care less about you?

[@tomstravels520]

@@alvinloh9068Steve’s just upset because the XLR got certified before the 777x did

[@r12004rewy]

So you would sooner fly on a Boeing just to prove a point! are you American by any chance?

[@alvinloh9068]

@@tomstravels520 It's been a gloomy day for Nicky, Steve, and Saintt, and this whole bunch of Boeing fan girls.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@alvinloh9068LOL. First comment I wrote was asking for a doctor, cuz Nicky needs oxygen. 😂😂

[@A35KAvGeek101]

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