Return of the Optiplex!! Dell's best kept secret! Xeon upgrade guide!!

[@stevenwilliams6638]

I'll never get sick of of these videos. Taking PC's that would have ended up in an E-Waste pile, and remaking them into very capable entry level gaming PC's is fantastic. Great video, looking forward to the mods!

[@DLMtechgarage]

That's were the money is at. Back when PC prices were normal, it was soo much easier to make a huge profit! Now the profit is alot less but still fun to do. Mod video is coming out next Friday, so def hit that notification bell so you don't miss it! I should have a video coming soon after on tips, tricks and how to do modding on a case. Thanks for watching!

[@digitalizeddeath]

@@DLMtechgarageXeons with iGPU work in these FYI I use nothing but them in these Optiplex boxes I have two Optiplex 7010 Ultra Small Form Factor With Xeon E3 1265L V2 in them for iGPU and low power

[@BoostedPastime]

God bless you I have been building Dells for years and they never once let me down. Not everybody has the money to build a 4k ready machine for a couple thousand dollars!

[@DLMtechgarage]

they are solid and make great pc's. 3rd and 4th gen intel still holding strong!!

[@RameshSeelochan]

I work in IT and just spent most of 2019 replacing old Optiplex's ranging from the 390s, 3010s, 3020s, 7020s to newer 3060's and above. so many old units that could be repurposed but I don't have the time to do so. great job on going with a Xeon, would have never thought of it.

[@DLMtechgarage]

bro the xeons are awesome, best bang for the buck and helps the profits when flipping!!

[@RameshSeelochan]

@@DLMtechgarage def agree. when I first took A+, teacher told me he configured a desktop with a Xeon and it ran smooth for many years

[@JeffWaynee]

I got a Xeon E3 1230 for my 2nd gen Optiplex 790 SFF. It's essentially an i7 2600 with a 200MHz lower base and boost. 95% the performance of the i7 for less than half the price. I paid $35 US.

[@DLMtechgarage]

that's what i tell people all the time. xeon has the better bang for the buck. i mean at litterly 1/2 to 1/3 less then a i7 why not.

[@TheMarluk]

The xeon E3 1230 v2 and v3 are good to ?

[@leo-kc9ef]

@@TheMarluk yea

[@GreyWolfTowers]

Another great video. Something to think about though is that xeon cpus are super expensive when 1st released, more than the i7s due to being server parts. Only reason its cheaper now is because server items drop in value faster than enthusiast parts

[@DLMtechgarage]

Yea these Xeons are def great price to performance. It blows my mind how they depreciate faster the enthusiast parts. Wonder why is that?

[@qariuki2587]

@@DLMtechgarage servers are used by corporation. They have deeper pockets and their data is more critical so they always make a point to routinely upgrade their hardware...which means they let go of their older tech for next to free thus cheaper xeons for enthuiasts

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@qariuki2587 yup, and people don't think these cpu's can game, but they sure can!!

[@davidlee6136]

I've used an e3-1230v3, a 4 core 8 thread Haswell Xeon in a Optiplex 3020. Similar story-- performance comparable to the i7-4770 for a significant discount. No integrated GPU but not really relevant for making an inexpensive gaming PC. A good alternative to the Optiplex, if one is able to get it for a reasonable price, is Dell's LGA2011 Precision workstations (T3600, T3610, T5810 are the ones I have experimented with). The 4 core 8 threaD e5-1620, 1620 v2 and 1620v3 can be found for $20-$25 consistently on eBay and perform similarly to the Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge and Haswell 4 core 8 thread i7s. There are also inexpensive 6, 8, 10, and 12 core upgrades. For example, I just upgraded a T3600 with an 8 core e5-2689 for under $45 and upgraded T5810 with a 12 core e5-2678v3 for $80. These machines also come with 635W and 685W PSUs.

[@DLMtechgarage]

I have been trying to get my hands on a precision workstation to do a video and review one but these prices are ridiculous now a days. Use to get optiplexes for like $20-30 but now the going rate is like 80-100. I primarily like to buy them to make a profit but with prices, by the time I buy it and upgrade it, the profit margin is little to none. Makes for good content so I might have to bite the bullet on that. Def appreciate the info on the precisions! Thanks for watching!

[@davidlee6136]

@@DLMtechgarage I was lucky to get a few Precisions for a good price from a local company replacing them with newer models-- selling the Quadro GPUs in them actually covered most of my purchase price. I agree that the price for them on eBay and other nation-wide market places can be too high to make sense, though.

[@Bulldawgfan]

@@davidlee6136 You hit both of the things I have been looking for data on. I was looking for, what xeon model is a I7 4770 or 4790 to go into my 9020 and 3020. Then because prices have tripled, I have been looking to get a Precision workstation and get a minimum 6 core chip or more depending on the price. Thanks for the info. Can you or DLM tech garage tell me what everyone is talking about on the E3 1200 or E3 1230 also fitting the 3010 ?

[@davidlee6136]

@@Bulldawgfan My understanding is the Dell's e3 v2 family (here is a list-- some of them are 4 core 4 threads, others are 4 core 8 threads: ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/78580/intel-xeon-processor-e3-v2-family.html) are compatible with the Ivy Bridge desktop boards like those in the Optiplex 3010/7010 and Dell's e3 v3 family (listed here: ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/78580/intel-xeon-processor-e3-v2-family.html) are compatible with the Haswell desktop boards like those in the Optiplex 3020/9020. These lists are not exhaustive, only those that were available in retail channels, I believe-- for example there is a Xeon 1231 v3 which isn't listed here, but are sold on eBay. These are most likely SKUs that Intel sold to OEMs like Dell or HP and are now sold on secondary markets as the machines they went into are retired.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@LD2165 yea that's a pretty good deal for what their selling, if only I had the coin I would def pick it up, seems like a cool cpu, and those quadros hold decent value, new a guy got a whole bunch of dells with quadros dirt cheap and made alot of money just selling the quadros alone. Thanks for look out, def let me know if you see any other good deals!

[@parasiteunit]

The NEGOTIATION on eBay can make a world of difference! I'm in the UK - got a Dell Optiplex aio for £40. That includes p&p and a stand (which I didn't expect). Admittedly, it was only tested to post, no OS - so it was a gamble.. But for 40 quid, i5 quad core processor and an unexpected stand . Cannot argue!

[@DLMtechgarage]

Hustling on the ebay can pay off for sure!! I like to do the make an offer and have found some insane deals that way!!

[@tealc6218]

The A17 version of the bios might give you better performance since it is without the spectre and meltdown mitigations which strongly nerf hyperthreading. My understanding is that you're only vulnerable to S&M if your system is networked with other computers or someone has physical access to your system. The only other issue with the older bios might be if you have a newer graphics card that needs the newer bios

[@DLMtechgarage]

Tha's a real good point with the spectre and def something I would like to test out. I have ran most cards with the older bios and never ran into an issue as long as I wasnt running second gen intel.

[@mark12358]

Find the InSpectre program and run it from admin logon, then disable the Spectre & Meltdown updates from Windows itself. Maybe it will suffice.

[@justdoingitjim7095]

I was gaming with an old Dell T7500 Workstation with just a EVGA GT 710 card, 28 gigs of RAM and the two Xeon processors it came with. It worked great until a lightning strike fried it. Now I'm waiting on a Optiplex MT 9020 that I bought to replace it. Gonna see if I can reuse any of the parts from the old T7500.

[@DLMtechgarage]

dang that sucks, you might be able to use the ram and gpu as the cpu's are different. i like the optiplex's the upgrade options are good and easy if you stick with the stock case.

[@justdoingitjim7095]

@@DLMtechgarage The Optiplex that I have coming already has 16 gigs of RAM. I only added extra RAM to the T7500 because I already had some and it had more slots available. I'm not even sure it made much of a difference. Do you think another 8 to 16 gigs added to the Opti would matter?

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@justdoingitjim7095 16gb is good but anything beyond that is more for heavy work loads and editing I have not seen any gains as far as gaming for thag

[@justdoingitjim7095]

@@DLMtechgarage I do a lot of Photoshop and some video editing, so I guess I'll add it. Thanks for the info.

[@monovengclan]

can't wait for the paint job! nice vid

[@DLMtechgarage]

Thanks, Greatly appreciated. Coming out next Friday so def sty tuned and hit that notification bell. Thanks for watching!

[@monovengclan]

@@DLMtechgarage Man I love these optiplexes but I can't seem to find a good gaming paint job exxample

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@monovengclan hope fully nexts week video does not dissapoint, also have a how to video on computer paint job!

[@CallMeMilenko]

Been rocking an e3-1230 v2 in mine for 2 years. Performs way better than he i5 3470 that came in it and was less than $20 at the time.

[@manfredovwales6338]

i did it in the end jumper sticker took ages tip sticking linux garoda on it u get more games running and better

[@johnringgold3036]

with these dells its much easier to install dell support assist to update the bios and any other drivers, you can also test the overall system with this software.

[@johnringgold3036]

run support assist once with the old cpu inside to update the bios and other drivers. then again after you install the xeon.

[@DLMtechgarage]

Def will have to try that. Would def be much easier for the viewers. I sometimes forget everyone has different levels of tech abilities lol... Thanks again!

[@DLMtechgarage]

Def will have to try that. Would def be much easier for the viewers. I sometimes forget everyone has different levels of tech abilities lol... Thanks again!

[@yeetus59]

The E3 1200 series is an awesome alternative to an i7. You can build a decently powerful gaming rig if you pair the xeon with a nice graphics card and a lot of ram.

[@DLMtechgarage]

and the price can be fanastic!!

[@tokehgekko9455]

@@DLMtechgarage Unless you want the E3-1286 v3 which i wanted to put in my router as an upgrade until i saw the prices :( E3-1230 v3 is gonna have to do.

[@assanceesay9613]

TYSM this literally works almost perfectly for my gig

[@DLMtechgarage]

Xeon all the way, best bang for the buck!!

[@GiziBrat]

Great video man!

[@DLMtechgarage]

Appreciate it!

[@GiziBrat]

@@DLMtechgarage i built an fx6300 with 970 mbo 12gb ram 1050ti and a 500gb hard drive for about 140 euros, do you think that I got a good deal?

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@GiziBrat that is a really good deal considering in the US the 1050ti costs that much alone. Def consider a SSD and you will really have a smooth gaming experience.

[@GiziBrat]

@@DLMtechgarage Thanks! I'm trying to get into pc flipping as a hobby

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@GiziBrat go for it. fun to do and easy money if you can get good deals!!

[@10WA]

The workstation version would be Dell Precision. If you want to spend a bit more and have a lot more upgrade potential look to the hp z440. Usually they have a 6 or 8 core xeon and 16 to 32gb ddr4 ram and a 600w psu with one 6pin pcie that can easily be adapted to and 8 pin. Good for 6600xt or 1660ti. Typically they can be found around $100 to $200 depending on options. Pop in a cheap ssd and used 5600xt and you got a great gaming PC for about $300

[@DLMtechgarage]

z440 def my favorite, did a video on it not too long ago and the value on them are awesome!!

[@suburbanburrito210]

So theoretically I could use a e3 1220 v2 because it’s the same chipset as a e3 1240 and is slightly better than a i5 3570 which is what i originally wanted to buy

[@DLMtechgarage]

yup you can use those too. A forum I am part of confirm that for me along with the 1240 and a few other. I went with this one due to it being much closer to the I7 at a fraction of the price.. Xeons are great bangs for the buck and are the way to go in these older platforms. Thanks for watching!

[@suburbanburrito210]

@@DLMtechgarage thanks man imma sub

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@suburbanburrito210 Much appreciated and feel free to ask for any help. More then glad too!

[@InternationalLiaison]

you gotta do some dell vostro's bro. They may look ugly, but they come from the Dell XPS platform. The vostro shares the same mother board as the XPS 8500 4th gen CPU's and there is mad wiggle room for performance. Also the ATX power supply is standard so yoiu can add 1500 watt PSU's and some chunking graphics cards.

[@DLMtechgarage]

Yup I have done those too, just not on the channel, I think I did a second gen way back!! They are easier to upgrade!!

[@mxmobile5619]

Xeons with guaranteed compatibility for optiplex 790: Xeon e3-1230 Xeon e3-1240 Xeon e3-1270 Any other xeons that use lga 1155 will have issues. (No turbo, no pcie support, missing memory channels, or unsupported chipset)

[@DLMtechgarage]

good info

[@grandeeee]

Thanks man

[@joro3945]

Gosh these videos are great

[@DLMtechgarage]

thanks!

[@digitalizeddeath]

Idk if your aware But any E3 will work in these except for skylake and newer Even the haswel Optiplex machines take Xeons I have a 3040 Optiplex with a Xeon E3 1245 V3 Your better off going with a Xeon part with a 5 in it for the iGPU to have that just in case

[@DavidNationSr]

i also want to add that win 11 ryns games realy good without a fancy video card

[@DLMtechgarage]

I have yet to try it out but have heard the gaming performance is better.

[@DavidNationSr]

i forgot to say this...next tuesday win 11 will be released to the public...there will be a version of win11 in the windows media creation tool that will run on non- supported pc's

[@VikingDudee]

I got 2 Optiplex 390's, same case, Mine has the i3 2100, it works pretty well for its age, but the weird thing with it and its preventing me from selling it is that if it looses power for too long, it will not boot or power on from the switch, As if the cmos battery died or something, I installed a new cr2032 battery, doesn't matter. The only why I can get it to turn on by the power switch after it was unplugged is if I press the little button the back of the original PSU. it powers on but will not boot, power light stays amber, hold the power button until it turns off, and then unplug the PSU from the wall and wait until the led on the motherboard starts to fade, then plug it right back in, works every time. No idea why it does this, I have identical 390 with a i7 3770 and it never has this problem, even swapping out ram, and PSU's, CPU's, that board will do that every single time, the 3770 system works perfectly even after power loss, it just that i3 system. Shame I got no use for it, it performs well enough to sell, but I wont sell it for that reason.

[@DLMtechgarage]

I had that issue, it was a bad board.

[@tengkuyudi6286]

Thank you very much, all respect

[@SnowCrabLeg]

Did you end up upgrading the CPU cooler? If so, was it a stock dell or another brand? Thanks! and great video

[@DLMtechgarage]

I kept it stock. The cooler was adequate for the new cpu.

[@Scornfull]

My 10th gen i3 costed about the same as that Xeon CPU on average if you don't haggle

[@barbarahass8436]

New to the channel....but SUUUUUUPER addicted ;). Is there a xeon upgrade that would work for an Optiplex GX620? Thanks for all of the great info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DLMtechgarage]

Glad your enjoying the channel and much appreciated. As far as the GX620 I am not sure if their is a Xeon option for it. My research thus far doesn't show anything but if I find something I will let you know!

[@barbarahass8436]

@@DLMtechgarage I know it's pretty old school, but it's exciting to learn new things and get it working better for my kids ;). I think the best I go with is a Pentium D 840. Thanks a million!

[@sidetraksidetrak879]

i have an Xeon 1240 in my dell op 990 = to I 7 2600 runs great. paid $15

[@DLMtechgarage]

Xeons are the way to go. Soo much cheaper, and great bang for the buck. Def been helping to increase the profit margins on flipping computers. Thanks for watching and for the input!

[@aperson1181]

Do you have a follow up video?

[@DLMtechgarage]

i do. got some videos on the channel of case swapping it and even one of the complete finished modded build in the original case.

[@cdoublejj]

my 3010 SFF doesn't post with a Intel XEON E3-1240V2 maybe i'll get lucky and re-seat will some how magically help

[@DLMtechgarage]

did you flash the bios?

[@gaminggamingtm]

The i7 3770 prices on ebay went down

[@DLMtechgarage]

yea they have. it's an older video.

[@jamaicankyng]

I have the i5 3470 now, should I get the 1240v2 instead? (I like CPU intensive games and this one's bottlenecking in RDR2/Metro Exodus/Mafia Definitive Ed/Horizon Zero Dawn and Forza Horizon 4/5) My GPU is a 1060 3GB btw Optiplex 3010

[@DLMtechgarage]

i would, just as fast as an i7 and a fraction of the price. Def a big improvement and will give you more oppertunities for gpu upgrades and not worrying about bottlnecks.

[@DavidNationSr]

i have 2 dell pc's 1 is optiplex 9020 sff that has tpm and secure boot the 2nd pc is inspiron 660 and it does not have tpm and doesn't qualify but i used work arounds to get win 11 installed

[@Snyder0317]

Cool! With a Xeon, can you use ECC ram, or is that not supported by the motherboard?

[@DLMtechgarage]

not sure never looked into it.

[@internziko]

More then likely no as these boards aren't designed for server RAM. But it couldn't hurt to try. If you do please reply to update and let us know if it works. If you do try make sure to only use ECC (server and desktop RAM can't be used together)

[@JuanGonzalez-hv6vs]

I really freaked out when he placed the Xeon into the mob and placed the heat sink with the old thermal paste.

[@DLMtechgarage]

Ha ha!!

[@alejandrovelasquez8063]

Nice, I wonder if the Q67 chipset dell motherboards can also do this (as in support a xeon)

[@DLMtechgarage]

I have not seen anyone do this but I do know that the chipset supports E3-1220L and E3-1260L. Bios update do wonders lol.. def check the forums, im sure someone has had to try it!

[@alejandrovelasquez8063]

@@DLMtechgarage I was thinking exactly about the E3-1260L lol, I'll definitely check it out. I have an optiplex 990 so I can try this myself if needed lol

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@alejandrovelasquez8063 keep my update, would love to know how it goes!! Thanks!

[@internziko]

I can confirm that Dell Q67 chipsets will work with any of the E3-12xx V1's

[@alejandrovelasquez8063]

@@internziko I forgot I had made this comment lol, yeah, I can confirm, too. I installed a E3-1230 without problems in my Dell 990. Just updated the BIOS first and that was it

[@puppy_BYTE]

I am not a gamer but do photography with some video editing. What budget gpu card would you recomment using the 3010 and xeon CPU?

[@DLMtechgarage]

I would say like a rx570, gtx 1060, or if newer a gtx 1650

[@manfredovwales6338]

i cant find a bios update for the optiplex 380

[@DLMtechgarage]

alot of older model have been removed. might have to hunt down some forums.

[@DJ_Driven]

Is there a newer i7 or Xeon processor that is compatible with this model that is on the official Microsoft Windows 11 supported processor list...or do you have to do the registry edit?

[@DLMtechgarage]

you have to do the backdoor mess to get it to work.

[@freeglizzzy]

do you think i can switch out my xeno e5 with a inteel i

[@badsmusic6321]

My Dell Optiplex 3010 Can support Xeon E3 1230/1240 first version ? I need to buy one but not sure if its work. Thanks

[@DLMtechgarage]

both those cpu will work fine. I went with the v2 only because I had a good deal on it. the v2 is a little fast and come closer to the I7 equivalent and if you can get a deal on one then go for it! thanks for watching!

[@abe488]

Great Video !!! Can this be done on the Optiplex 9020 SFF ?

[@DLMtechgarage]

yup, same mobo basically, just smaller

[@abe488]

@@DLMtechgarage THANK YOUUUUU!!!!!

[@cristianmedina8457]

bro the video option does not appear in the bios and I have the same computer as your help bro please :(

[@DLMtechgarage]

not sure. email me a screen shot on what it looks like, but usually you would see something for pcie or igpu setting in the bios.

[@BlahBlah-zb7es]

Do you know what the absolute best cpu would be for the 3010 would be? Is it the 3770/1240, or is there a better option

[@DLMtechgarage]

the i7 3770 is the best one for it, the xeons are just a way cheaper better bang for the buck.

[@BlahBlah-zb7es]

@@DLMtechgarage awesome, thanks for the response!

[@j.lietka9406]

Are the T1650 & Tower 3620 with the Xeon CPU worth anything? Thank you 🤓 mostly complete. Got ahold of 3 T1650s & 1 Tower 3620.

[@DLMtechgarage]

intel 3rd gen are still decent, easy flips for a starter pc

[@j.lietka9406]

@@DLMtechgarage sorry!! Make that 3 T3620s & 1 T1650! The 3620s are about 7 years old & the 1650 is about 10 years old. The 3620s have the 1220 Xeon, & the 1650 had a 1270 Xeon. All can be upgraded too!

[@j.lietka9406]

@@DLMtechgarage sorry!! Make that 3 T3620s & 1 T1650! The 3620s are about 7 years old & the 1650 is about 10 years old. The 3620s have the 1220 Xeon, & the 1650 had a 1270 Xeon. All can be upgraded too!

[@vincentfuria7301]

What do I need to do to upgrade my Dell OptiPlex 7060 MT from a Intel i3-8100 to a Intel i5-8500/8600 The bios has updated to Dell Inc. 0.1.23.0. I need to boost FPS for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 and add some better performance. I have issues with some Add-Ons and stuttering. My Dell OptiPlex 7010 is still running well with the PS you sent me a few years ago here in Rochester, New York.

[@DLMtechgarage]

depends on what gpu your running, that would be the biggest boost. the cpu should be a direct plug in with no issues but ofcourse it does not hurt to update the bios and dell makes it really easy. my dad has an i7 8700 with a 2070 and the thing runs great. glad that psu went to good use!

[@zelusink]

Great video! I have a Dell Optiplex 390 running A14 bios I tried putting a Xeon E3 1240 V2 and got orange light on the power button and immediate shut down, any trouble shooting advise will be greatly appreciated thanks!

[@DLMtechgarage]

If I remember correctly as I have not messed with a 390 in a long time, but the 390 did not support v2, i believe it was only the non v version as the 390 are second gen intel's.

[@internziko]

@@DLMtechgarage this is correct. The 390 is a Q67 chipset which doesn't support ivy bridge. It will however support sandy bridge (which are e3-12xx V1's)

[@benpoulin5637]

I wonder if you upgrade to a xeon processor will it recognize ecc unbuffered ram?

[@DLMtechgarage]

not sure, never tried it.

[@robertmoors5850]

I bought case only 9010 and all I get is 3 beeps, no post no video. Is there a way to upgrade bios. Do you have the A22 bios bin file or know where I can get it? Looking at Ch340A bios loader. Dell just has Dos exe program. Not having a cpu that works I think I need to upgrade ths bios to A22.

[@DLMtechgarage]

I got them from dells website

[@jotarokujo6729]

Hey man , will the Xeon series V2 or v3 work for the 3020 ? 3010 is so close to the 20’s

[@DLMtechgarage]

v3, link to a page talking about it www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/Optiplex-3020-SFF-Upgrading-CPU-RAM/td-p/8025165

[@ysfefd8798]

i have intel xeon e3 1240 v2 . not working in dell optiplex 7010 sff. what problem solves please?

[@DLMtechgarage]

Might need a bios update

[@johnconnorstopskynet]

I was wondering if the 9010 can run ECC memory? I'm looking to use one of these as a server with the Xeon

[@DLMtechgarage]

don't quote me but everything I have read says no and from what I gather only the precision series (which are server based) support the ECC. I could be wrong but I can't find anything to support otherwise.

[@jamesburrus3024]

I have an Optiplex 390 and am trying to upgrade the bios but it says Windows 10 is not supported with any of the updates any ideas?

[@DLMtechgarage]

never ran into that issue, Did you try running it in compatibility mode? that may work, If not may have to do a win 7 install then update the bios and then install windows 10?

[@jamesburrus3024]

@@DLMtechgarage Yeah maybe sucks that I cant do you think a Xeon e3-1240 v2 would work on A11

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@jamesburrus3024 not sure as it uses the second gen intel and I am not familiar with this model. Read on a forum the e-3 works but cant confirm it.

[@jamesburrus3024]

@@DLMtechgarage Ok thanks appreciate your help a lot love the content.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@jamesburrus3024 Thanks for watching!

[@marcpovell6061]

Hiya Oh Grand master, I have the OPTIPLEX 9020 MT Running Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Intel Core i5 4690 @ 3.50GHz Haswell 22nm Technology Motherboard: Dell Inc. 0N4YC8 (SOCKET 0) Graphics: DELL P2217H (1920x1080@60Hz) 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (Gigabyte). Physical Memory: 32GB DDR3 You tell me about this facinating prospect of upgrading what I have to a Xeon, so please can tell me what I could do to improve what I have! As this is the best I gradually built up from "4GB of ram and a measily onboard graphics and a i3". Yeah I can hear you laughing from here, but I have struggled and done all by myself over the last three years on a mini budget... so yes any advice would be the best asset in my humble state, Please can you help me?

[@DLMtechgarage]

I would get an i7 4770 and and maybe a rtx 2060

[@marcpovell6061]

Thank you fr your very prompt reply, ha you caught me unaware over the speed :) You and your family have a wonderfull Christmas, Thank you for your advice.

[@marcpovell6061]

Oh I have just looked on Ebay, is it a "i7 4770k 3.5 Ghz" as the other is only "i7 47703.4Ghz". And would'nt a Rizen be any better?

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@marcpovell6061 either of those two would work fine, ryzen could be better depending on the model, but this dell does not support it.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@marcpovell6061 merrry christmas to you and your family as well.

[@scruffy7443]

Since you added a Xeon CPU, do you have to add an ECC memory? I plan on doing this to my dell 3020 sff to replace the 4790S for a lower wattage for the Haswell-based Xeon E3-1286L V3 is with 65W, hopefully it will run on that system. I only have a Crucial drr3 1600 NON ECC memory though.

[@DLMtechgarage]

Nope. Just used regular memory with this setup

[@dragoking3993]

Do you know if the Dell Optiplex 7020 works with Xeon E3-1270v3? Thank You.

[@DLMtechgarage]

yes, flash the bios and any 4th gen xeon equivalent will work.

[@ak-ut7zy]

subbed

[@DLMtechgarage]

honestly never noticed the difference and yes, you can use any power supply you want. Thanks for the sub!!

[@charlestylerwatkins3261]

I have a Dell Optiplex 3010 MT with a I5 3470 and Rx 470 Gpu. I am having a weird issue, when i turn it on the boot/bios splash screen shows colored boxes/borders around the dell logo, but boots into windows fine and does not seem to be a faulty gpu. I have read maybe a legacy bios issue, but cant seem to find a solution. Any ideas?

[@DLMtechgarage]

i believe in the bios you have to disable either csm or legacy... don't quote me but i remember doing that with a day, cant remember which version

[@anthonyk]

I have an Optiplex 7010, would a e3-1275 v2 work?

[@DLMtechgarage]

i know for a fact the 1240 will work, never gone higher then that.

[@dewayne9508]

Hey what kind of ram can I put in my optiplex 3010? I have 8gigs can I get to 16? Thanks!! Edit also would I need a better heatsink for the v2?? I really dont want to mess around with the proprietary fan and risk frying my MOBO.....

[@DLMtechgarage]

yup def can go 16 gb. These computers are not too picky on ram. ddr3 1600 something like gskill and crucial I tend to look out for. Samsung and corsair work good too.

[@vikonemedia1]

hi i have optiplex 790 tower and i have i5 2500 i planned on upgrading to e3 1245 4c 8t is bios update needed

[@DLMtechgarage]

not sure as I never really messed with the second gen. If it says you can use that xeon you should be fine, but it never hurts to do a bios update!! some dells require it for the xeon!!

[@vikonemedia1]

@@DLMtechgarage i upgraded jt to i7 2600k instead of xeon i got really god deal for 2600k and i didn't need an update.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@vikonemedia1 the i7 is better and faster, I only go xeon to save some money!!

[@wavyali1905]

I have a 3020 which one would be compatible

[@DLMtechgarage]

E3-1271 v3 is the top you can get and are fantastic to use and go for about $80 usd on ebay. I tend to got with the e3 1240 as they are cheaper and just as good as the i7

[@catherinemorgan2741]

I have a hp 3rd gen i5v 3570 what xeon is good for it

[@DLMtechgarage]

e3-1240 v2, its the same as a i7 3770, but half the price and only like 2 percent slower.

[@jwillie128]

What’s the max supported ram with the xeon or i7?

[@DLMtechgarage]

16gb, the 4th gen or 9010 is better as it can run 32gb

[@lovefreebee]

i thought only precision has xeon & not optiplex...

[@DLMtechgarage]

optiplex can run xeons too.

[@sandrocarletto9386]

will my optiplex 9010 motherboard work with an e3 1230 v2? the motherboard looks very similar to this one

[@DLMtechgarage]

Yup, its it's the same board, just the 9010 was more of the fancier version to say the least. Typically had higher end hardware and cost more money, but that cpu would work fine with no issues. Thanks for watching!

[@sandrocarletto9386]

@@DLMtechgarage thanks for replying and letting me know it works :)

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@sandrocarletto9386 anytime, always glad to help!

[@sandrocarletto9386]

@@DLMtechgarage hey so I just put the cpu in but it just won't post :( I updated to a newer bios before doing it but no luck. I asked for help from people but noone seemed to know what they were talking about and I saw some people running a 9010 with the same cpu I have. So I thought if anyone could give me good advice it'd be you. So yeah any ideas?

[@sandrocarletto9386]

Nevermind I just got it to work if anyone sees this make sure to clear the cmos and also enable smart reporting as that seemed to let me boot

[@scratchstudio787]

Would 7020 work?

[@DLMtechgarage]

you can put a xeon in them too.

[@gediminasbielskis8346]

Would optiplex 9020 work with Xeon 1270 v2??

[@DLMtechgarage]

i believe it supports only the v3

[@janpuco927]

If your 3010 supports e3, it’s means that also support ecc memory modules ?

[@DLMtechgarage]

I honestly don't know and really didn't think about it, but technically I would say yes since it can support run a Xeon cpu. If you find out let me know!! Thanks for watching!!

[@janpuco927]

@@DLMtechgarage tnx for answer 👍

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@janpuco927 anytime!

[@alexandreantunessoares9163]

i have a optiplex 7040 running a g4400, can i upgrade to xeon 6th too??

[@DLMtechgarage]

not sure, never had a chance to mess with those, only see for the i5 and 7 6th gen updgrades. will dig around and let you know if i find some info on it

[@oscarbrito3287]

Hi, does this cpu work on a 9010?

[@DLMtechgarage]

yes

[@oscarbrito3287]

@@DLMtechgarage thank you man, keep making great content!

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@oscarbrito3287 thannks

[@egocentricblack3278]

Can you put a apu into a dell optiplex 7020?

[@DLMtechgarage]

The Intel cpu have built in graphics, not sure what your asking

[@egocentricblack3278]

@@DLMtechgarage can i take a ryson apu that is ment for gaming and has a built in gpu and replace my intel i5 with it and avoid getting a scalped graphics card.

[@egocentricblack3278]

@@DLMtechgarage can you make a video about installing a apu in a dell optiplex? Graphic cards are too expensive to get a good one and apu's sound like a good alternative.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@egocentricblack3278 no you would not be able to do it as intel and amd cpu's are not interchangeable

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@egocentricblack3278 the only way to do it would be to swap out the mobo and cpu but you would then run into the issue of front i/o connectivity and at that point the headache would not be worth it.

[@BeefStew39]

I have an optiplex 7010 will a xeon5680 work with the motherboard?

[@DLMtechgarage]

it won't, it's two different generations. the xeon 12xx v2 variants work and are the best bang for the buck. The e2 1240 v2 is usually the one I go for and it equivalent to the i7 3rd gen at half the price.

[@shikimori85]

Edit: is the e3 1270 v3 work on dell optiplex 9020 i mean? about the bios do i need to update it to latest version?

[@DLMtechgarage]

yea the 9020 is 4th gen and it will work from what I have read on the forums.......... you do need to update to the latest bios as the original bios I have heard does not have the xeon support.

[@MrDTw0]

I have a Optiplex 7050 i5-7500 ,i was wondering if anyone knew cheap upgrades? I7-7700 is the highest the 7050 can go. Are there xeon equivelants,sorry im not very tech savvy. Love your videos though,help alot.

[@DLMtechgarage]

Below is a video I did upgrading the computer with no mods and budget upgrades. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZCxo3dto9p_r8k Got a part 2 coming out soon. In that video I will show how to upgrade the PSU and even throw in a rtx 3060 and hopefully be able to get a xeon i7 7700 equivalent figured out Stay tuned!!

[@MrDTw0]

I forgot to say i have a SFF but your vid is still a great reference for most things related to optiplex still.

[@ar0d266]

Hey DLM, can this work for a Dell Optiplex 790? I have a i7 2600.

[@DLMtechgarage]

yup most def can. although the xeon is a cheap alternative to the i7 2600, since you have the i7 going xeon is not really worth it Now doing the mods like I have done you def can do.

[@ethanlawrence8132]

Could you now use ecc ram?

[@stevenwilliams6638]

No. The cpu supports them but not the mother board.

[@DLMtechgarage]

Yea like Williams said the mobo don't support it, also also I have found that using ECC decreases your computer's performance by about 2 percent and is better suited for server data and processing to ensure data is not lost or corrupted in an event of failure or crash, unless you need that feature non ecc is the way to go as the memory nowadays is way more stable. Thanks for watching!

[@ethanlawrence8132]

@@stevenwilliams6638 okay thank you

[@ethanlawrence8132]

@@DLMtechgarage thank you also my thinking was that ecc is alot cheaper than normal ddr3

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@ethanlawrence8132 it can be but not worth it

[@Sleaxel]

Thank you, do you know if I could put a E3-1270v5 Xeon into my optiplex 3050?

[@DLMtechgarage]

not sure, have not researched it.

[@victorduenasiii6533]

I have Dell 3010 can i7 7gen compatible? Ty

[@DLMtechgarage]

no, only the 3rd gen i7 will work.

[@reekid6128]

Will a Xeon e5 2665 work on a dell optilex 390

[@DLMtechgarage]

Not sure, never messed with those before, I wanna say yes due to dell not limiting their boards and bios as the xeon in this video was not listed as being supported and it worked just fine. I will def check the forums and keep you posted if I find anything! Thanks for watching

[@simeonjohnston5941]

No. The 390 has an LGA-1155 socket and the E5-2665 fits in an LGA-2011 socket. It would not physically fit. i3/i5/i7 2nd and 3rd gen CPUs use LGA-1155 and are equivalent to the E3-12xx / E3-12xx V2 lines of XEONs. I do not know if the 390 would support an E3 xeon, but it would NOT support an E5 xeon. The i7 Extreme enthusiast line use the LGA-2011 socket and are equivalent to the E5-16xx chips. The E5-26xx chips can be used in place of an E5-16xx, but are meant for dual cpu systems.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@simeonjohnston5941 Thanks for the info!! Greatly appreciated!

[@LegatusLegionis]

it's mr hand, where is Bill

[@DLMtechgarage]

lol

[@penguin1215]

I bought a e3 1270 v2, but when I place it in my Dell Optiplex 790 SFF, it shows a black screen and my keyboard and mouse won’t light up

[@DLMtechgarage]

are you running the A22 bios? I have known people to use that xeon. not sure why it would not work. update the bios, check the pins for dirt and the pad of the cpu for dirt as well. I have ran into that issue with dirty pins and pads. blow it out with a duster.

[@penguin1215]

@@DLMtechgarage I did that, display isn’t on, keyboard and mouse isn’t lit up, and 2 and 4 lights are on the dell optiplex

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@penguin1215 if i remeber right 2 and 4 is a graphics card issue. reseat the card your using but if not then you need a card as the xeons don't using integrated graphics.

[@penguin1215]

@@DLMtechgarage I have reseated my GTX 1050 ti. Still the same problem

[@penguin1215]

@@DLMtechgarage seems like you were right, I ended up using a i5 2400 with integrated graphics. Apparently the gpu isn’t detected. Any suggestions?

[@CikguWandy]

Agreed!!

[@DLMtechgarage]

Xeon %100 all the way lol... great bang for the buck!!

[@DavidNationSr]

if ppl want to use windows 11 they will need a pc that has tpm and a secure boot..u might pass that around

[@DLMtechgarage]

true, but I am sure their will be some hack to get around it by then, in fact their are ways to get around it now with the beta.

[@masonpeake267]

i have an optiplex 3020 with an i5-4570 will this go in it?

[@DLMtechgarage]

e3 1240 v3 would be the best bang for the buck. the v2 are for the 3rd gens and the v3 are for 4th gens.

[@masonpeake267]

@@DLMtechgarage so it will fit and thanks for the Info

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@masonpeake267 anytime, my precision build i did has the same board and that's the cpu i used for it.

[@bradleylambert3284]

Would this work on the small form factor 3010?

[@DLMtechgarage]

Absolutely, it's essentially the same board. The chipset and bios update is what allows you to due this not the board size. I would of def gone with a sff xeon buid and pop in like a 1650 low profile graphics card and this would be such a sweet build! Thanks for watching!

[@bradleylambert3284]

@@DLMtechgarage Thanks for the reply, think I might do something similar.

[@seriksson9721]

Should it be wise to replace the case from sff to something larger, then regular GPUs are suitable?

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@seriksson9721 It would def give you more options for the gpu's. I recommend it if you are trying to go for a more common gpu vs those overpriced lp gpu's.

[@seriksson9721]

@@DLMtechgarage That was my thought too. The answer was actually meant for Bradley Lambert, but I'm not very good at all English tricks in language use.

[@marcosphotography]

I changed the i5 for the xeon, I run cinebench, and its about the same score, is this correct?

[@DLMtechgarage]

which xeon did you use?

[@marcosphotography]

@@DLMtechgarage E3-1240 v2

[@DLMtechgarage]

​@@marcosphotography i found that one to be slightly slower then an i7 3rd gen but not by much, it should performance significantly faster then a i 5 3rd gen

[@marcosphotography]

@@DLMtechgarage thank you

[@cerola2013]

Hey, would this work on the Optiplex 9020 SFF ?

[@DLMtechgarage]

yup easiest mod ever and on the sff it becomes a nice little gaming rig with a LP video card.

[@cerola2013]

@@DLMtechgarage Thanks man, I'll look into this, do for my 9020 SFF. Might need a bigger PSU, but could be worth it. Right now just have like 255w or something

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@cerola2013 depending how far you want to go, easiest route is to pop a celeron it and use a 1650 low profile card and you have a 1080p beast on a good budget plus you won't need to swap out your psu and the 1650lp uses non supplemental power.

[@cerola2013]

@@DLMtechgarage Thanks man. Yeah I'm doing it on a budget right now, nothing too baller. Already ordered an RX 550 4gb card, got 16gb Ram and have an i5 cpu. Think I'll get a noticeable performance bump going to the Xeon? Like, to justify the money

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@cerola2013 depending on what you have in there now yes. The xeons are essentially i7 but way cheaper

[@MrSmoky416]

Dell optiplex 990 I7 2600 1050 ti 16 gb ddr 3 500 watt psu 500gb ssd 1 tb hdd

[@DLMtechgarage]

not too shabby. how the games running on it?

[@MrSmoky416]

@@DLMtechgarage 1080 p medium to low settings for high quality games does me fine snappy aswell for browsing the internet and using apps

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@MrSmoky416 nice

[@amdintelxsniperx]

oh strip the spectre amd meltdown patches

[@DLMtechgarage]

oh yea, I do that for the older intel builds and did it for this one. Every little FPS helps. Greatly appreciate the info and thanks for watching!

[@mccormyke]

Xeon's remind me of the old Buick Electa 225. Had a ride like a luxury sedan. Step on the gas and outrun a camero..

[@DLMtechgarage]

ha ha that's an awesome comparison but def true. Like I say, the best kept secret really is the xeon.

[@SOLDADITO76]

I’m surprised you cooler came off so easy, I have two 9010’s with i5’s and the coolers come off the CPU like there welded on there. I don’t think not adding thermal paste is ever a good idea. Let’s take your vehicle on a test drive on new axle bearings without greasing them fist, just saying. With this CPU upgrade let’s see some GPU upgrade choices, forget the paint and RGB puke.

[@DLMtechgarage]

yea I would never run it under load or for a long period of time, it was just to flash the bios and then the new cpu was in. GPU upgrades would be nice but this whole scalpers and minning thing has got me bone dry.! and yes RGB is puke but it sells!!

[@SOLDADITO76]

What I've come across is that even an i7 model optiplex seriously CPU bottle becks a GTX1060 and a GTX1050 is the best choice. So was thinking of a sleeper build using this case. The case is lacking in air flow to say the least. Was thinking of adding some 88mm (132cfm) delta fans to the inside front of the case after removing the hard drive cage. I would like to put a Ryzen build in this case, and a GTX 1080 for now. I already have a 850w PSU so power isn't an issue. The only other fan is the rear 88mm, since it's only a 88mm fan I was thinking another delta fan. Do you think this could/would work?

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@SOLDADITO76 I think so, might take a little modding and splicing of the power button and front i/o. i did something similar with an old compaq case I had and did a ryzen build with it. Agrred with that I7, 3rd and 4th gen are starting to show the age, im moving towards 6th gens and find that Hp's z240's are great for sleepers, case swaps and mods.

[@SOLDADITO76]

Found a Z240 bare case for $35 with shipping. I’m trying to stick to cases that will use an ATX psu since that’s what I have. Thanks for the info on the hp tower.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@SOLDADITO76 yea you can get those barebones cheap and do some nice sleeper builds now that I think about it, and sometimes people are practically giving them away in online forums. def appreciate the good insight!

[@mikepxg6406]

its bios not bioze

[@DLMtechgarage]

my northern aceent lol...

[@scratchstudio787]

NOICE

[@ps3customgamer]

Dell aren’t allowed to publish Xeon compatible it’s intels spec.

[@DLMtechgarage]

best kept secret!!

[@retro_gamer_uk]

Does Xeon work in 3050 sff version?

[@ForceGMs]

What list of xeon cpu are compatible for Optiplex 7010 MT?

[@DLMtechgarage]

Xeon E3-1240V2, mostly i believe up to the 1270 but any e3 v2 should work, I have used the from the 1220 to the 1240. some say the 1270 works but i can't confirm it.

[@ForceGMs]

@@DLMtechgarage Great! I was thinking getting the E3 1270 v2

[@josephroblesjr.8944]

Does somthing like this work with the 20 series? (3020, 7020, 9020)?

[@DLMtechgarage]

Yes it will work, the only difference between the 10 and 20 series is that the 20 series were geared toward higher end enterprise and server use. Such as video editors and data processors. They 20 came with display port for better monitors and resolutions, and typically better cpu's. Other then that they are the same and you can use the xeon in either 10 or 20 models. Thanks for watching hope this helped!

[@josephroblesjr.8944]

@@DLMtechgarage I just did some reasearch and it looks like the 20 series have the 1150 socket while the 10 series have the 1155 socket so I don't think they will work.

[@DLMtechgarage]

@@josephroblesjr.8944 you are totally right an d i def missed that, the 3020 is the h81 chipset which supports the newer and better cpu's. My apologies for the information and greatly appreciate you telling me that.