DMMS and Vref - Ride Along on This!

[@aviatortrucker6285]

I counted three. Attitude indicator was not set even though it said that it was complete, trim was not set and seatbelts and harnesses were not checked.

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

Run up and run up checklist already done and complete prior to Before Takeoff Checklist. Attitude indicator was fine, trim was set prior. Seatbelt was on.

[@theresacaron4238]

You obviously missed his comments about the checklists he already completed which included those items. Some people are real quick to jump on Dan for any reason while ignoring what was said, typical. I'd fly with Dan anytime, you on the hand being a poor listener, I don't think so.

[@tedhughes5187]

He set the DG on the runway and then also went full rich. He probably leaned out for taxi before takeoff then realized both mixture and his DG wasn't set when rolling out on runway heading.

[@podtri419]

@@tedhughes5187EDIT: I forgot this plane has no toe brakes. I see nothing wrong with setting DG when on runway, as that serves as final correction, if any is needed. Mixture full-forward upon advancing throttles is also something some pilots do, especially if turbo-charged, i.e., rich mixture just before full power, then your palm braces and holds all the levers (Power, props, mixture) full-forward. My .02 cents.

[@tedhughes5187]

@podtri419 ​DG was definitely missed as that was well over a 40-degree correction.

[@dugandav1]

I agree with many of your viewers, keep up the good work Dan, remember - it’s the haters that have the problem not you and thank you for all your efforts

[@Hooknspktr]

DMMS and VREF user here. As a maintainer, I'd like to add that anytime you place a line or radial on an instrument, you should PAINT a small slippage mark from your glass to the bezel of the instrument. This is assurance that the glass has not slipped and rotated, changing your marks which could have disastrous results.

[@eugeneweaver3199]

😮 That never occurred to me!! Thanks! (I hope a line of nail polish will do) 😁

[@tn8402]

Is placarding the speeds a better option?

[@truthserum5310]

Excellent observation and suggestion!

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

No.

[@truthserum5310]

@@ProbableCause-DanGryder Why?

[@ajd0408]

Regarding radio communication, you seem to have set a tone for safety and etiquette at that airport. Kudos!

[@timmholzhauer3342]

Check seatbelts (plus: where is the shoulder harness???) 😉

[@Tomahawk837]

Thank you sir, was absolutely excellent, including review on DMMS to radio coms, really awesome, on the yellow line, thrilling and informative...better than some commercial pilot teaching series!

[@donandhisstationair2382]

Dan, although you are a polarizing figure because of your “enthusiasm” for improving GA safety, I have no doubt you have helped save many, many lives.

[@ragheadand420roll]

Telling the truth isnt polarizing Saying the truth is polarizing is polarizing

[@thomasmixson7064]

If you ain't yanking someone's chain, if hateful, jealous people don't ridicule, if they don't shoot their barbs at you.....well, you aren't making people think and consider thier ways

[@ernieanderson-cr1yw]

Dan Love your flight in 140 around pattern only thing no shoulder harness? Ernie Abderson

[@michaelpilot1000]

This DMMS and Vref is not new. Since I started flying age 12 in the mid 1960's and my CFI was a prior WW2 military training instructor. Several things Dan teaches is how old skool flying was all about. Marking Airspeed indicators with red or yellow paint for absolute minimums. Also, we were trained to land straight ahead nose down best speed. And , lots of training for engine failure. Both of my WW2 instructors would kill the engine. That means deadstick off. I was trained to immediately push yoke forward. Immediately recognise wind direction and land. No matter the terrain. One last one. Practice of Falling Leaf to loose altitude quickly - and land. Plus side slips into trees to absorb impact during emergency. And never, ever try a 180 back to field. I very much doubt the skills of any modern day CFI. Most of them are trained poorly.

[@ericsd55]

Ah, another disciple of Wolfgang :)

[@Shakaiharp]

Amen!

[@asho1735]

I've never heard of side slipping into trees.. interesting thought.

[@n1msu]

totally spot on. You can even see on the old piper how much the dial shakes on climb on this old bird. The guy trying to tell Dan he's going to kill someone has never experienced a pitot tube blockage which happened on my 3rd flying lesson when I was 12; back in 1999 in England in a 1950s C152 Aerobat. It wasn't scary as I had an instructor and he'd flown the bird enough to not panic, although at the time he didn't know if the stall horn might be blocked too, as we went round for a thorough pre flight check. A tiny bit of gravel perfectly sized got kicked up on takeoff and there's another reason why Dan isn't killing anybody.

[@michaelpilot1000]

@@asho1735 Accordion effect absorbing energy rather the nose first.

[@ericcallicoat1487]

How does the guy accuse you of spreading unsafe information when your whole point is safety? I imagine that there are a lot of people out there who could afford an airplane that shouldn't necessarily be flying them. I will never forget my first solo. You don't try to make it 'look' easy, and you had 'handsfull' doing 2 laps, flying the airplane, navigating and COMMUNICATING. Keep up your great work, and rescue more dogs. They ALL go to heaven.

[@X737_]

All ex pros know how good Dan is. As for DMS, it’s important to know but not appropriate to use for thrills especially if you play fast and loose with your AoA

[@jamesburns2232]

There are a lot of people who pilot airplanes. Some look better than others doing it. 🥸

[@AndreyTikhonov]

Thank you, Dan, your videos on DMMS shed a bright beam of light on the matter, which pilots call the feeling in the seat of our pants. I calculated the DMMS for my airplane and went to practice it today. It helps tremendously with airspeed control in the pattern. I also learned that my DMMS is also a Vy. But it is not the best glide speed. Having this speed marked also helps in IMC to keep the airplane under control. I used Vref ever since I started flying my Mooney. That was a huge help in my transition to the Mooney flying machine. Makes so much easier to land it!

[@scottdweck656]

“I like to fly anyway . . . “ love it Dan - me too! 😂

[@FarkyDave]

Dan, everything you do makes sense to me and promotes safety. Keep up the great work.

[@timmholzhauer3342]

I agree I keep on making my own checklists with all my aircraft.

[@plane_dad]

Dan, I would just say not everybody's all there. Keep up your good work.

[@asho1735]

DG not set but corrected on the roll. i've done that a few times and even took off with a totally wrong heading indication.. i guess it's not an instant killer in VFR weather

[@billjones3071]

Awesome, no fluff just straight talk great information

[@grantbrown7594]

Newly minted private pilot here, just about to start working on instrument in November. Thanks for making this video Dan! I’m just calculated my Vref and DMMS and will be following your advice as I build hours. Thanks again man!

[@borntobbad]

I'd like to firstly congratulate your accomplishment and applaud your intention to do instruments, it's not really something you want to put off. VFR into IMC happens all too often.

[@CherylPix62]

Congratulations @grantbrown7594! Keep staying alive! 😊

[@stevespra1]

One thing on comms... please try to remember to say airport before and after transmission. There are usually several airports on the same CTAF within radio reception.

[@davidbaldwin1591]

I really enjoyed this, and I am only a spectator. Thank you, Dan. You make me feel like I am riding with you!!

[@thomasmixson7064]

You reported clear of runway before crossing hold short line. Technically all parts of plane should be pass that point before reporting clear. Nitpick, nitpick no harm no foul. I believe that it is efficient to do so if plane is still in motion in certainty to clear in anticipation.

[@borntobbad]

It's a solid point, i think the extra few seconds to cross wouldn't hurt the jet to wait, considering he was offered the opportunity twice. But checklists rushed breeds complacency, so please take all the time you need mr jet pilot, I'll wait!

[@voytekcyvr1936]

Great lessons, I like your camera holder in the back!

[@stevespra1]

It's good to see a busy airport these days!

[@lightsportpilotadventures]

Nice job Dan. The community needs more people like you, less interested in the profit and agendas, and more interested in helping people stay alive. Keep up the good work.

[@practiCalfMRI]

Here's one for you to run Dylan through... You're extending your downwind to allow those two planes to depart but you're still at TPA and getting farther and farther from the field. A perfect spot for a sim engine failure! Turn and glide for the field or glide for whatever is in front of you? How does he factor in the wind and ground speed?

[@jimlove4541]

Seat belt/shoulder harness . seat locked.. Dan you need one of those tacky pads for the dash to keep that cube cam in place.

[@gregwhite7957]

I believe he mentioned in an earlier show that his shoulder harness system was on back order or delayed and that he would have them installed as soon as they arrive.

[@paulputnam2305]

Great Job Dan! Thanks

[@Q1776Q]

Keep the GREAT videos coming! I don't recall you calling FINAL on the CTAF in the first landing.

[@tomwilson1006]

I caught the mistake. Fiddling with the camera mid-flight! 🤣🤷🏼‍♂️

[@borntobbad]

I believe you have Blu-Tack in the USA? Sure would have been more effective than being distracted by the camera sliding off the dash. How important is that one camera? I heard him say he put away his phone and his paper check-lists, but "all objects secured" probably should be on that list as well. I had to virtually lay on the floor from the right hand seat to retrieve a water bottle, which was left free standing between the front seats....guess what happened on decent? Fortunately the decision was made to go around, thus climbing removed the offending article from the left hand seat area, and the bottle was secured before rejoining the pattern. My point is, either way it's a loose object in the cockpit that has potential to cause disruption, distraction and could potentially impact controlling the aircraft.

[@tomcoulter6121]

We have custom checklists for our club planes. After listening to you describe the "successful" stall/crash landing of two ladies into treetops and falling gently enough to the ground to prevent the ELT from going off, we're thinking about adding a pre-crash item of manually activating the ELT.

[@julzb7165]

Good afternoon Dan from windy Inverness, Scotland. Not a good day for flying here. Thank you for this series.

[@robinmyman]

EGFH is a nightmare also. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Any and every day is a good day for flying.

[@billruttan117]

Thanks for mentioning that a “Checklist” and a “Do-List” are different things. A real Checklist should be somewhat retrospective, that is, its purpose is to CONFIRM the correct status of items that are not directly controlled by the pilot (e.g. oil pressure) and VERIFY that required pilot action items from the Do-List (e.g. setting flaps) did get, in fact, get (and stay) done.

[@davidpearn5925]

I learned to fly in ‘63 and stalling in the circuit was unheard of way back when………and we had massive traffic on fewer runway options. You had to try hard to stall because you had so much feedback.

[@R_Miracle]

I like you added “I’m not gonna stall this airplane” to the checklist.

[@TheMuffin1967]

Excellent video!

[@TheMuffin1967]

@_-Dan-Gryder- Surprise?

[@coreyandnathanielchartier3749]

Take a look over your shoulder for some Norad blasting in on the 45* to downwind. Dan love these fly along videos, helps us rusty pilots a bit with keeping our heads in the game. Maybe you could occasionally rehash the method you use to determine your plane's DMMS and Vref, as some may not have caught this on earlier videos. Oh, and ignore the haters! These videos will save someone's life, if they haven't already.

[@757MrMark]

Dan, your Videography is approaching Aviation 101 Josh Flowers quality. The A&P in me likes the nice smooth application of the throttle. You can always throw it forward in a fast motion in an emergency.

[@MrProach2]

Not with a small Continental!

[@ignaciovaldovinos4735]

Nice edit of the cockpit view and the instrument view overlaying eachother👌

[@HongyaMa]

Get those shoulder belts in... and do a bit when you do them, FAA has relaxed the regulations for just these safety items🤪

[@leroycharles9751]

Dan, another excellent video.

[@SM-if4nz]

Hi Dan, I never heard you announce that you were on final? Is that what you were referring to that you missed?

[@fredfred2363]

Bloody excellent vid Dan. 👍🏻🇬🇧😎

[@JW23551]

My wife is learning to learn to fly…I’m sending her every one of these to hopefully keep her around a LONG time.

[@michaelpilot1000]

Stay away from young and enthusiastic CFI. Find a real Veteran. Not a starving time builder.

[@SchillerDuval]

@@michaelpilot1000nice generalization, Michael. I’ve had bad experiences with both. I’ve had good experiences with both. Find the safest CFI.

[@tomwilliam5118]

Well I haven't been are sick in a long time. Watching this on a big screen TV it's like the real thing

[@jackkreighbaum783]

A possible "Impossible Turn" at the Grand Canyon area that resulted in the loss of three.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

can you link?

[@Coops777]

Re the missing item, I didnt hear carb heat being tested. Very useful and helpful video Dan

[@Irjdunn1]

I watched the flight chops video again tonight. That's an amazing 25 minutes worth watching. When you flew DMMS engine failure and turned right or left 30 degrees in this video, that's what made it click for me what this was all about. It was all words and talk before seeing you cut the engine, hit DMMS and actually TURN after engine out. I've NEVER practiced a 30 degree turn after stalls at altitude. Ever. That slight turn did more to reinforce DMMS than a simple stall recovery or airspeed exercise. Why the hell did we train for stalls and not this? That's so frustrating.

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

Exactly.

[@keepyourbilsteins]

Baro altitude and DG. Also didnt call out first final, and omitted airport name in most transmissions. Still a better pattern than ive ever flown thiugh😂

[@wayne9638]

great work Dan, keep it up

[@timmckenna210]

No jerking on the controls just smooth flying!

[@thompsonjerry3412]

All is good, you left the banjo at home. You are right, speed is life!

[@robinmyman]

And height…life assurance. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Mancflyer]

Fantastic vid, very informative - thank you!

[@Dr-Jamie]

Great stuff!

[@jdean1851]

GOOD STUFF" KEEP IT ROCKIN!

[@timmholzhauer3342]

You should say the airfields name at the beginning and again at the end (as anyone else there by the way) Sorry! 😉

[@Randy97402]

Thank you for these, Dan! :D

[@christassillo]

haters gonna hate sir. thank you for saving lives

[@hughscot]

I really like what you are trying to do for GA pilots. I got my comm. and CFI in the early '70s as a hobby. When I look back I'm amazed I was qualified to teach as I knew nothing compared to today. Only did it for a couple of years as my biz was busy.

[@kristensorensen2219]

I like the CIGARS checklist! ERAU 80 CFIA&I ret.

[@MrProach2]

Get yourself a modern Carbon Monoxide (CO) detector, rather than the "spot check" you have on the panel. They cost about $20-$30 and have a 10-year lifetime battery. Cheap insurance.

[@Bill3558]

I fly a light sport with a Dynon glass panel. Unable to placard the airspeeds.

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

Yes you can. User defined speeds.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

This gentleman is just a fabulous pilot. One of the best I've ever seen.

[@kathrynmurphytechnology]

You did not check your engine and magnetos

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

Already done on runup checklist not shown.

[@perossichi1]

I enjoyed this video. I think not flying without a shoulder harness should be on the AQP checklist. Lots of old planes just have a lap belt. I won’t fly in a plane without at least a 3 point harness. Dan- please correct if I’m wrong, but I saw a video of your son who appears to have a plane with only a lap belt. If I got that wrong, please accept my apologies.

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

His plane has been modified with a full should harness kit from Alpha Aviation and the STC kit has been installed. The actual belts are on back order and due in any day.

[@perossichi1]

Good news. As u are aware there are many tragic accidents where the occupants survived the landing but a killed by impact with the instrument panel. Including one where the pilot ditched in the water beautifully but was knocked unconscious and drowned!!!

[@Mike-01234]

@@ProbableCause-DanGryder Glad to hear your getting them done.

[@wicked1172]

You have the older type of transponder, I did not see you set the transponder to Alt however, it may have already been in that setting before taking the runway and I couldn't quite tell from my view. If you have an ADSB solution such as a Sky Beacon you may run with the transponder in Alt all of the time.

[@Timberns]

I argued with Rob Levy for two days about stalling aircraft… He’s not a reasonable person

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

It is amazing.

[@borntobbad]

It seems reasonable he believes he was right?

[@publicclammer]

Love these instructive videos, Dan. I am a bit sad than at 82 it is unlikely that I'll pilot a plane again - even though I feel confident that I could do so just fine!

[@hughscot]

At 83 I feel the same but I won't without a copilot.

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

Come fly with me!

[@publicclammer]

Fact is, I might just figure out a way to do that, Dan! Maybe I could tell you how amazingly sweet it was to fly from Goose Bay to Mildenhall using only 3 star fixes until TACAN lock on!

[@dabneyoffermein595]

82 is the new 72, get up there and fly man!!!!

[@truthserum5310]

Do it, I'd take Dan up on that offer. 82 is young son. Hell, Bob Hoover was flying into his 90's.

[@borntobbad]

Take all the time you need on your check-lists, a rushed check-list breeds complacency. Complacency is the best way to meet your maker 100% guaranteed to work!

[@scottp.5161]

Good day DG. Where can I get the camera mount you used? I LMBO'd at your camera stuffed in the oh shit handle in the back. Brilliant!

[@michaelwilliamsd.o.5006]

Awesome!! Jo said you called clear of the runway before you got to the whole short line. Also, trim, setting an alter setting was missed what happened to the run-up? Ha. She is picky

[@asho1735]

yes.. AIM has this but it's not a regulation? An aircraft exiting a runway is not clear of the runway until all parts of the aircraft have crossed the applicable holding position marking.

[@mrnelson928]

Cessna 182 Club Well done my friend.

[@kareno8634]

*Thanks Dan* for another Great Brain Feast on Flying. item[s] 'missing': Seeing Plane on horizon, i looked, but realized each time it was spot on windshield. lol the other, *Thanks again Dylan!* _and plane, for the use._ Isn't this what *Pete,* (Juan's Son) says: *'Aviate, Navigate, Communicate'*

[@robinmyman]

Lt Pete. 🇺🇸👍

[@rvrnnr987]

DMMS is a safety margin. There's nothing wrong with flying the pattern at a constant DMMS. You SHOULD learn, and practice flight at the slower speeds, but there is no reason to maneuver in the pattern at a speed that is any slower than DMMS.

[@borntobbad]

A lot of airlines use DMMS, I'm a huge supporter of it as well.

[@truthserum5310]

@@borntobbad Nah, Levy knows more than the airlines. In his mind...... What a tool.

[@borntobbad]

@truthserum5310 well it is what it is, i follow Dan because i enjoy his work, it's educational and i learn so much from the experience he has. This is DTSB Probable Cause, not Levy's 👍I always like to keep an open mind.

[@rogerbrady1578]

Heading Bug set missing. carried out on line up.

[@crono331]

DMMS user. not only, i built my own electronic ASI with a bar of leds, indicating the correct speeds for pattern and final. my a/c has a very small wing, relativery high Vs and a very unpleasant stall so airspeed in pattern is critical. lots or bright red lights when speed is too low. Still find those to-do lists a bit too long. I dont use paper, but i built my own panel and controls so lists are mostly redundant. Items to check before t/o for me are basically just 3: flaps, trim and canopy, the only things that can ruin my day. the rest is nice but not critical. one thing i rarely see discussed and eventually questioned is the square pattern with 4 90 degs turns. with light airplanes, often plagued by strong inverse yaw, maybe not very coordinated, and with little energy, i saw many accidents in pattern not caused by bad speed management (or not only) but by a sequence of event started by a overshot final turn. when possible i do a 150 or so wide base turn, finish to configure the a/c and then do a final turn of 30 degs or so. DMMS should be adopted by all GA flyers. unfortunately too many people come up with the silly argument that airplanes can stall at any speed.

[@sreed8570]

I thought the fuel pump needed to be on until after take-off.

[@komrad1983]

ABout before takeoff: I can't see if rudder was checked when mentioned flight controls.

[@jimflys2]

I believe it was fuel that was missed on 1st landing.

[@hollismiller234]

Dan, I fly a light sport CTLS from flight design. The POH only lists Vs0 for a 35 degree flap setting, which is never used because of extreme deck angles required. It lists V1 for 0 degrees flap setting but not for the normally used 15 degree. In addition, there is only 3 kts difference between the two. As said, I'm never going to fly base and final with 35 degrees, usually 15 degrees. Therefore if I calculate DMMS with a prorated value of 41 Knots, I get 58. POH Approach speed is listed as 54. What would you recommend?

[@MrProach2]

Is "clear of the runway" normal parlance at an uncontrolled airport? I thought after the Tenerife runway collision in 1977 that "clear" was verboten unless referring to a clearance from ATC. Just asking.

[@lindsaywootten9127]

Hard to tell from the video but is it that the left tank is the fullest tank?

[@thor3279]

dang it, Dan! you make me miss flying! just banging around, boring holes in the sky. Great vid, and great practical workthru of the methods you advocate. Happy Landings :)

[@lukebelvin4900]

Hey Dan, beautiful airplane I saw at speedway.. love the animal rescue on the side.. reminds me of Jurassic Park. You never fly with iPad? Do you rely on old school visual contact for VFR stuff if you're buzzing around the airport?

[@lukebelvin4900]

P.S. trade you a few rides in a beautiful SR22 for a ride in the DC-3 :)

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

@@lukebelvin4900OK! I’d love a ride in a DC-3, I’ll bring my Cirrus and give you a ride in that first. Deal!

[@lukebelvin4900]

@@ProbableCause-DanGryder haha woops.. my brain farted after a long work day, you know what I mean! :D A *few* rides in my SR22 for a chance to ride along the DC-3 one of these days?

[@Nemesisnxt]

I thought you installed shoulder harnesses?

[@clearance_delivery]

Dan I still believe that the spin of the multi crash in Portland was intentional and purposeful… didn’t have to happen

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

Like suicide?

[@keepyourbilsteins]

VMC practice?

[@clearance_delivery]

@@ProbableCause-DanGrydermore like I think the instructor was trying to “show off” they were all super young… wouldn’t surprise me if they took Vmc to the full stall.. basically what I’m saying is you get what you pay for.. stall an aircraft at Vmc… you’ll get the Vmc roll… totally intentional

[@Mike-01234]

@@clearance_delivery One lived hopefully they are able to get some good information from the person who survived. God only knows how that happened.

[@dbkonkle]

When you were flying and said there were 4 aircraft in the area I cringed just a little bit. I was taught years ago that in situations like you were in, I should be saying to myself “There are 4 aircraft I’m aware of and I’m looking for the other ones that aren’t talking”. Keep up the good work Dan. I believe your polarizing personality only brings more attention to your message of safety.

[@ricklowers8873]

Dan, a thought. I always reiterate the following; an aircraft WILL stall at any combination of airspeed, pitch or bank (wing loading) which will result in crossing the critical angle of attack. And DON’T forget the effect of turbulence on wing loading. Second, I’d recommend that in addition to DMMS (which I really like how you emphasize that speed) one also has a visual reminder (post-it note, etc.) of both Vx, & Vy speeds just in case… As I said to you the day we met in KCVG, I really appreciate the service you provide through your channel! Safe travels.

[@sniper1967]

Can we agree that DMMS is different for every flaps setting? Is the marker set on DMMS clean config?

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

DMMS covers all flap settings up to 30 degrees bank. Vref is full landing config but no bank (wings level)

[@TheGuitar1962]

Staying Alive!

[@greatmoose17]

Mag check. You just said on both and did not cycle through left both right both.

[@Joe_Not_A_Fed]

That's part of the runup checklist, which was completed before vid started.

[@theflyingplumber]

I saw what you did on taking off. That happened to me once, coming out of RDU at night. Departure was vectoring me out of the area and of course my DG was not aligned with my compass. That was embarrassing to say the least. Never missed that again after getting disciplined on the radio. I was distracted with taxiing to the runway, at the unfamiliar airport and rushed the take off. Lesson from that incident, is to taxi or fly the plane and do not let controllers or other aircraft rush you for their convenience.

[@joebrown2577]

Good stuff.

[@borntobbad]

I'd like to point out that Dan doesn't have to film all these videos, he does it because he wants to and he understands the importance of sharing experience, and for this i am very grateful thanks Dan. I guess it goes without saying, but not everyone will agree with some things that are said and that's ok as well, but if you need to point something out that you think is unsafe, do it in the proper manner. Dan in my opinion is a gentleman aviator, showing us it's ok to offer the other pilots the opportunity to go first while simply extending,...as he said they are burning kero and he's just practising what he talks about.

[@pibbles-a-plenty1105]

That was a great armchair ride with you, Dan. Pretty soon I'll have this armchair in the air! At DMMS no less. 😊

[@dabneyoffermein595]

DMMS is the way to go

[@bigfootaviation8497]

These speeds seem slower than what I’m use to from training normally we use 90 on downwind 80 on base and 65-70 on final, were people flying speeds much slower then even dmms and vref ? If so that’s pretty worrying

[@morthomer5804]

I propose a new number: DMPI - Defined Minimum Pilot Intelligence. If a Pilot is so adverse to self / cross examination and open discussion of flight characteristics, then quite possibly, they should not be flying.

[@dugandav1]

Agree, suggest a Karen’s checklist

[@eugeneweaver3199]

👏👏👏

[@sizzelot]

He didnt turn on the transponder as part of lights, camera(Tx), action.

[@bizbuck1]

where can we get a copy of that checklist?

[@ProbableCause-DanGryder]

[e-mail]

[@jonathanlunn2464]

You sort of blew through the parking brake while holding I couldn’t tell if it was on or off but I never saw you make sure it was all the way off prior to your roll, I remember your video about the guys that had it half on and didn’t realize it and just pulled it off the runway…you were making power and obviously reached 60 halfway etc..

[@z400racer37]

If you’re stalling a Cherokee at 200 knots, it’s because you ripped the winds off lol..