EVERY NEW MYSTERY IN RUIN (Five Nights at Freddy's Security Breach: Ruin) - DMuted

[@itselizauwu]

I love how the Blob escaping the sinkhole is what caused the earthquake to get the pizzaplex shut down which is super important and then he only appears once and then disappears forever and refused to elaborate

[@el_Capitan_Dorado]

Gregory made it

[@ruihenriques5954]

Blob is seen in game, so he didnt escape

[@j.a.m.m]

I mean that place is a dump, if I were him I'd fuck off and leave the Pizzaplex too lol

[@bellingtoned]

@@Shrekinspace well hes seen in the pizzaplex atleast still slinking around in the walls

[@Florjb0rjTheFloorboard]

​@@ender01o66No, the Blob is still lurking in the sinkhole

[@Irish_Enderman]

The Prototype Freddy is interesting to me because if you look at the foot that has "Prototype" writen on it, the foot is segmented, it has a separate heel, which im pretty sure Freddy didn't have in SB Edit: in the elevator ending the audio glitches out while Gregory is taking, right before he decides to drop the elevator, implying that the Mimic took over the speaker in that moment and dropped you itself while pretending Gregory did it

[@itselizauwu]

In the game files the two Gregory voices are given 2 very clear names. “Grimic” for the mimic copying Gregory’s voice and just “Gregory” for when real gregory is talking. The files say that it is gregory talking when he betrays you. Plus for a storytelling perspective it makes no sense and would just be confusing to be confusing

[@ghostdragon5735]

@@itselizauwu the games browse Britteny to say that the real Gregory drop you off easily because I mean they know that people look in the game Files. But from the start standpoint, it does make sense because if I remember correctly from the books, there are two mimic programs, the original, and then another one Gregory could be the second

[@itselizauwu]

@@ghostdragon5735 if they knew people would look in the files why not title all of the dialogue as just “Gregory” to avoid spoiling the mimic?

[@kajtek-pieszarzyckich1228]

glamrock freddy always had segmented feet

[@RudockAviar]

It has to be Gregory because only he seems to have full access to everything in the pizzaplex. Keep in mind that The Mimic, throughout the entire game, only communicated to you as Gregory through the Roxy walkie-talkie. This means that The Mimic can't/couldn't access the pizzaplex's systems. So it makes no sense to suddenly have it be able to do so at the end when it never did throughout the rest of the game.

[@keybladeterra]

I think the Entity (M.X.E.S) isn't evil or malicious at all. I think it is just doing its job of detecting threats to the security nodes, such as Cassie with the mask. All it ever does is send animatronics after the player. Animatronics that are normally not killers. I think the intent behind the Entity was that it would alert the animatronics to capture the threat until it could be dealt with. It doesn't come after us until we start hacking the nodes after all.

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

True, it seems to be trying to contain the Mimic. It stuck out to me that M.X.E.S can't attack and instead sends out *distress* signals because it sees anyone trying to release the Mimic as being malicious.

[@levihuerta8279]

I want to say that the entity is similar to Glitchtrap, but then again, there are so many Jeremy's and I'm guessing that rabbits are now a red herring sometimes. Hopefully the future will answer this question.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

It was Gregory says that the whole m.x.e.s thing was made to keep the mimic trapped so the bunny was trying to kill Cassie so she couldn’t accidentally release the mimic

[@arthurgomespariz71]

MXES is probably just some sort of Anti-Virus software, since it protects the System.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

It would be really cool if there was an alternate route where you DIDN'T turn off the security nodes

[@agentboi4794]

I think the Vanny Freed ending has to be canon because 1. The comic pages 2. In game when you reach Fazer Blast you see the PQ machine tipped over with the princesses sword in it(implying it was beaten) 3. And lastly Freddy, whether you disassemble Vanny or free her(in this case free her) Freddy meets his end in Fazer Blast. But in the Free Vanny ending Gregory takes his head explaining why Freddy has no head(prototype foot theories aside)

[@bencarter7582]

@@ender01o66 How about this, the vanny freed ending happens, It comes first, then Gregory for whatever reason returns to the plex and that's when burntrap ending occurs, that would also explain why Vanny doesn't appear in that ending. (I know she doesn't appear in the ending where they escape in a truck, but that seems to be more of a joke ending since mr hippo randomly replaces Freddy in the band.)

[@GendoRokabundi]

@@ender01o66after Vannnessa is freed, it’s quite probable that she and Gregory went back to the pizzaplex. Those comic pages have to come from somewhere. They could have went down and dealt with Burntrap or the blob. Perhaps Burntrap hadn’t been completed yet. They instead cement in the Mimic and set up MXES. Burntrap was just what Vanny was planning. Gregory’s comic invented how it would look. So like the VIP ending, with two Vannessas, it was artistic license. The Blob later tunneled out leading to the place collapsing. After the PQ ending, Vanessa would still be head of security and the place would still be open. So she, with Gregory’s help, would have worked to clear the systems.

[@Hdx64]

They are not mutually exclusive when you think about it. Let me paint you a picture. Gregory takes Freddie's head, Fazbear finds Freddie partially disassembled, make a prototype body for a new tech they are testing the ability to act like a counter AR entity. Something that's is tangible and visible in the real world, but not in Virtual reality

[@Hdx64]

I like your take a lot@@GendoRokabundi

[@agentboi4794]

@@ender01o66 me too 😔

[@reececonnor526]

To add fuel to the free Vanessa ending being canon after you leave bonnie bowl in ruin and go down the glitchy vet you end up in vanny’s hideout where you can see the third princess quest arcade machine destroyed with the princess’s sword sticking out

[@DeadBunny7878]

The Freadbear ending is called the brazil ending in the code. This is meant to reference a term in fiction for when a character is put under so much stress that they have a mental breakdown, go insane, and choose to retrete into a fantasy. This means that when Cassie goes the wrong way in that ending she basically suffers a complete mental breakdown at the realization that she's going to die, so while hyperventilating she puts on the mask since it has helped her escape situations in the past, but when no escape appears in the AR world... She completely loses her mind and instead mentally retreats into a fantasy world where everything is perfectly fine as she basically lets the mimic kill her.

[@vermontmann5216]

Damn that's... dark

[@DeadBunny7878]

@@vermontmann5216 Yeah man, It's F'd up...

[@vernerstinger]

The Blob appears in the hole in the wall down the staircase in Chapter 1. You caught a glimpse of him on the stream for a sec. Also, you can see Mimic communicating through Helpi when his eyes change to those of the Mimic with small veins behind his head and was like such when the "Occipital Transponder" was installed, which the Mimic would most likely use later on to track her down if she was to escape, hence Gregory's betrayal.

[@DudeInADinoOnesie]

The blob hadn’t left yet when Cassie enters the building. There’s an Easter egg at one of the staircases in the beginning of the game with the blob leaving

[@noxtinker2936]

Mxes is probably a good repurposed version of glitchtrap after the bad part was killed in princess quest mini game and repurposed as a security measure by vanny now that she’s free

[@Khyizer]

I like this idea. I’ve been tossing around what mxes could represent and I hadn’t thought of this. My brain has been stuck trying to reason if mxes is Charlie or Cassidy given how either one of them could work. I just can’t figure out why either one would take the form of a bunny but your theory would answer that question.

[@el_Capitan_Dorado]

Vannesa was free because the princess quest minigames were Broken not because gregory play them

[@j.a.m.m]

Ohh, yeah, that's a pretty nice theory!

[@higueraft571]

@@el_Capitan_Dorado ...so why does playing them free her, if all you need to do is smash the fuckers (Which theoretically would just mean freeing her is impossible, instead)? And where's all the Fire Damage if Burntrap is canon? :V Why is Princess Quest the *only* ending without a comic?

[@el_Capitan_Dorado]

@@higueraft571 the PQ ending is a comic itself, there's no burn damages just like there werent Burn damages when we went for the first time after the fnaf 6 fire, the arcades being broken frees her It dosent make sense for her to be trappef

[@someonerandom8511]

As a note for the "prototype" freddy, I find it far more believeable that the word was written on his foot after instead of freddy's body being pulled from fazerblast, and then a second freddy we have never heard of got monty claws then died in fazerblast with the same injuries as freddy.

[@writterthecritter8791]

If you run down the stairs in chapter 1 fast enough you can actually see the blob before it quickly leaves

[@agentboi4794]

Also a side note I MUST bring up is a big question imo. JUST HOW DURABLE ARE THESE ANIMATRONICS?!?! This game makes me seriously question how these things are still functional. Monty is missing half his body and still run-errr ummm crawling(?) around the pizzaplex with his bare endo and wires exposed and yet he can swim!? Roxy and somewhat Chica can still walk. But FREDDY is somewhat accurately hunting you down WITHOUT A HEAD! I was mad when Roxy somehow always found me despite literally having no eyes but Freddy here is on a whole other level. Apparently the glamrocks need neither head or legs to keep functioning, like this is the immortality Pee Paw Afton should strive for 😭.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

Ok the Freddy hunting u down isn’t the Freddy from the main game the Freddy in ruin is a prototype but your still right

[@agentboi4794]

@@GrimReaper_TTV that's still sus because he's conveniently a 2nd random freddy missing Monty's claws(an upgrade that you MUST give Freddy), in fazer blast(the last place you see Freddy's body before the PQ ending) and he's missing his head(which in the PQ ending Gregory takes as he leaves with Vanessa). Honestly I don't see any real reason for this to be another Freddy other than the foot, but even that might just be a retcon.

[@LiperioHK]

​@@agentboi4794for the princess quest ending, you don't have to give him the claws. You can give him the beak instead.

[@WoolyBlaster]

its like 2078 in sb, they have really advanced technology, if they have enough tech to make sentient animatronics then making them durable shouldnt be that hard

[@agentboi4794]

@@LiperioHK oops yeah I forgot about that 😅. Still tho, if that is freddy he would have either had the upgrades ripped off (like Chica's voice box or Monty's claws) or the just didn't have Chica's. I say Chica's specifically because Monty is split in 2 implying that Gregory went to Monty golf at some point and Roxy yelling "Give me back my eyes!" Implies that Gregory also took her eyes. Worse case scenario Gregory also took Chica's voice box and either didn't use it or it was taken from Freddy.

[@SteveBNLplays]

The glitch rabbit thing is most likely not even a villain If I remember correctly. Gregory told us that the M.X.E.S. security program was to try to stop us from disabling security. I think that the the glitch rabbit is actually the M.X.E.S. Security Program. So in that case, he's more like an anti-hero. He could still be Glitchtrap though.

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Nope mimic is glitchtrap and burntrap

[@SteveBNLplays]

@@vikingfromnorth45 then Why would M.X.E.X. look like glitchtrap.

[@superlemonslicer1224]

​@@vikingfromnorth45technically the entire pizza plex is the Mimic because he controls everything

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

@@vikingfromnorth45the mimic isn’t either burntrap never actually existed the comic pages Gregory draws before Cassie comes proves it plus the books tell u the mimic was originally made by someone else that wasn’t Fazbear entertainment

[@edenengland1883]

its a very similar plot twist to The Desolate Hope, where it's revealed that the "viruses" youve been fighting through the entire game are actually the anti-viral programs for their respective simulations

[@adriankuban2904]

We all know MatPat from Game theory and John from Fun this two are mostly closer. But we also know ​Scott himself, even though he publishes more books and more games are coming out, like many other authors and creators of franchises, sagas and series. Leave it a mystery and that's good because they want to keep it for us. To try to solve it using our own imagination, theory, ideas and come up with our own Head Canon.

[@jaffinator2166]

Also IMO Help Wanted 2 is going to be Gregory’s origin story and how he became Patient 46 as explained in GGY. It would be a nice parallel to how HW1 was Vanny’s origin story.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

It’s not help wanted 2 the trailer started at circus baby’s pizza world or whatever it’s called so Gregory won’t be in help wanted 2 at all I don’t even think they’ll hav security breach or anything to do with it in help wanted 2

[@jaffinator2166]

@@GrimReaper_TTV Help Wanted 1 was an in-universe VR game. It can likely be assumed that Help Wanted 2 likely is as well. Meaning that’s not the actual Circus Baby’s entertainment and rentals.

[@nekogamer2508]

​@@jaffinator2166but hand unit voice said we are a retuning person

[@jaffinator2166]

@@nekogamer2508 that’s either 1. Because we also played Help Wanted 1, something Gregory could have very easily done. 2. A line just for the trailer. Also… did you play or watch Help Wanted 1?

[@nekogamer2508]

@@jaffinator2166 yes I did play help wanted, so we play as Vanessa in help wanted 2

[@SHADOWEMPERORB127]

in the elevator part in the ending there is a high pitched sound during the middle of Gregory's explanation and that is the Mimic hacking the speaker so he's the one that makes the elevator drop

[@adriankuban2904]

"The Three Afton Children" on the Hill Other endings are Alternative parallels What if? Which was created by Pation 46 = GGY = Robotic Master Hacker = Gregory in comic form. M.X.E.S. {Techno Rabbit} It's badass . I like him and can't wait to get Help Wanted 2 and maybe Stell Woll finally makes a FredBear's Family Dinner game. Maybe Funtime Servise remaster in Security Breatch style it will be good continue in future. 😉💙😊💜🤩

[@pteroid11]

I mean if the Blob grabbed up Burntrap, maybe it beat the crap out of it until the costume fell apart enough for it to realize ‘Wait a minute, this isn’t Willy’ and just threw it away.

[@Crazyinsanemonsterofkittens]

I noticed that the Mimic has one of Burttrap’s (5 finger) hands, I wonder how the Mimic got the from?

[@adriankuban2904]

I wish Stell Woll will do another dlc after Ruin. But we don't in Help Wanted 2 we will returned to Sister location. So that is so exidited. Maybe Fnaf AR mobile game Funtime Servise remaster in Security Breatch style it will be good continue in Fnaf future.

[@subterfugue]

questions answered: none questions added: many

[@NegativeRush300]

I've been watching the overall discussion of which SB ending is canon. People have been missing the simplest detail. We take the same elevator as gregory, which freddy explains only has enough power for one last trip. So if that was canon we'd have to take another way down

[@kyubbikcat2281]

The entity, or Max as I like to call him, is the personification of the security system meant to prevent the mimic from escaping. This explains why the security nodes are shaped like rabbit heads, why Max is trying to stop you, and why Max gets sucked into the machine when you shut it off. As for WHO built this security system, I have a feeling that it was Casey’s father who made it. When Cassy obtains the fazwrench, she says it’s just like her dad’s, implying that Cassy’s dad is/was a technician who works for Fazbear Entertainment who owns a fazwrench of his own. The VANNI mask, or Security mask in the equipment inventory, is said to have been made by a technician. Vanessa, who was the previous owner of the mask, is NOT a technician. It is never mentioned or shown that Vanessa was as such. The technician who DID make the mask would be Cassy’s dad. He took the mask and made it into an Augmented Reality headset which he used to set up all the security nodes in the Pizzaplex. This explains why you can only interact with the parent and child nodes with the mask on. And also why Max can only be seen with the mask on. Cassy’s dad set up the parent nodes, and secured it with child nodes that were random objects NOBODY would suspect to be part of a security system UNLESS you had the mask. But that would be impossible since the dad is the only one with the mask. But just in case someone did snatch the mask, there would be jammers in place to hinder any potential intruders from disabling the security nodes. As for why Max is a rabbit, in one of the few times Cassy’s father was mentioned, we can find out that Bonnie was her dad’s favorite character. So it would seem that the dad made Max under Bonnie’s image. As for who the dad is, it’s most likely a character we’ve never seen before. It’s not Michael because of the severe lack of evidence supporting the claim and the possible explanations for Michael being the dad are far fetched with no sources backing it. It can’t be Henry because Henry’s *DEAD.* And even if he did have another kid, he’d have to do it before he died, years before the Pizzaplex was built, years before the Pizzaplex was closed, and years before Ruin takes place. Cassy says at the very beginning that the Pizzaplex has been closed for a long time, so Ruin doesn’t take place right after Security Breach, but a real long time after that. And *NO,* it can’t be William because I swear to god if you say she’s a Charliebot or Elizabethbot because she has GREEN FINGERNAILS I’m going to fucking lose it. Why does every kid need to be Charliebot or Elizabethbot?

[@prufan]

Cassie has green nails like Roxy, I don't know why people keep insisting on Cassie being Charlie or that everyone is secretly a previous character like Henry, Elizabeth etc, it's like they don't want original characters

[@thisisyouraverageperson]

@@prufanthen those same people claim “ We need more original characters”. That frustrates me. But yeah your right

[@Hdx64]

Let the fact that we are the ones the finally kill Bonnie, sink in (Bonnie had glowing eyes when we see the body, but after powering down the last Wet floor bot, it eyes stop glowing)

[@Skullfiend]

There's the possibility that Burntrap is the Mimic after being heavily thrashed by the blob, and then using any spare parts it could put its hands on to rebuild itself. Mimic's left arm is clawed like Burntrap's. So maybe it was badly beaten and it used anything it could put its hands on to fix itself in a shoddy job and that's why it looks so different. As for the blob... It still lingers inside the Pizzaplex, you can see its head before it digs away when you get too close.

[@prod.juicebox]

the blob is actually in ruin in a staircase broken wall

[@ozalduin4383]

I don't like they are leaving the mystery, soul and unknown horror to Tech mechanical and "glitchy" horrorish stuff.. idk what you guys think but old fnaf was feeling a bit better story and lore wise.

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

It's strange that they're introducing more human characters, but the story has changed to be about sentient non-haunted A.I now.

[@higueraft571]

>but old fnaf was feeling a bit better story and lore wise. Except when you look at FNAF 2 and 4, or god forbid World :V

[@prufan]

nah, sentient animatronics are the reasonable evolution of FNAF, Fazbear Entertainment was always trying to make their animatronics feel more alive and A.I is becoming a reality in the real world. And Ruin has a far more engaging story than any previous game, the well written and VOICE ACTED main character Cassie helps a lot.

[@ozalduin4383]

@@prufan Characters especially Cassie doesn't feel that great to me. She is like an adult more than a child. Like Gregory was like that too sure but he was a little naughty brat mostly. Still Sentient animatronics would be good if this was a different story its a cool idea. But when you think about fnaf haunted animatonics murdered kids and cruel killer is coming up to minds. Which what was getting people in the first place. Idk I really don't like the way everything being pushed to AI and most of the soul stuff is straight up being left just like that without a satisfiying conclusion and explanation.

[@ozalduin4383]

@@Wolfric_Rogers Yeah idk its the first time we are having proper characters that we certainly know who and a game to learn more stuff about the lore and such but they simply go with AI and tech and such. Even if they would do this I would kinda want an explanation or a good rundown of whats canon what happened and what will be next with story and universe wise. That are they gonna abandon soul and murder side of the FNAF or are they gonna use it in a future content and such. Because like without a proper conclusion.

[@lightningwolf788]

I'd like to mention that there was someone on twitter who did a ton of model investigation on Mimic and Burntrap, and found that the two models can actually line up perfectly with one another. Mimic Burntrap theory is still on the table.

[@superlemonslicer1224]

YAY

[@gremloid]

praying for mimictrap to be canon cus I hated how they fully brought back afton after he was given a proper sendoff to hell in pizza sim

[@superlemonslicer1224]

@@gremloid a g r e e d

[@thisisyouraverageperson]

burn trap being Mimic would be so cool in my opinion and it also gets rid of the stupid thing of William coming back for what the 3rd of 4th time like seriously let that Rabbit lover die.

[@RaspberryPastry]

The Brazil Ending got it's name from a movie that entirely takes place in the mind of a man in a torture chair using his imagination to escape his body's physical situation. This might imply the mimic isn't actually killing Cassie, at least not right away. The mask might be forcing her consciousness deep down and away from her body so the mimic can try to put her body on over itself as a disguise without killing her.

[@cosmicbreath]

The Real Gregory is still suspicious to me. In both SB and Ruin, he doesn't really act like a normal kid. In SB I just assumed, if he was supposed to be a normal child or even a child who was once brainwashed, that it was cuz writing kids realistically can be difficult. But Cassie DOES act like a real kid. At least WAY more than Gregory ever does. Whether it could be because he's up to something, whether GGY-style Gregory implied by the Patient 46 tapes is still active, or something else, Gregory is STILL suspicious. If nothing else, he's always known things beyond what we know as the player and far beyond what he SHOULD know and he's still not giving any of that to us.

[@ozalduin4383]

I mean Cassie doesn't act like a child at all other than the death of Roxy she is most likely an adult going in to save a child I kinda didn't have it.

[@hokton8555]

@@ozalduin4383 but at least we can confrim that she is child she has a father & had a birthday party

[@banafritz]

Maybe Freddy was wrong. Maybe it wasn't hard for Gregory to be sus. Maybe Gregory really did see that small vent on the floor and vented. We may never know.

[@superlemonslicer1224]

​@@hokton8555YESSSSSS, Finally a normal kid that isn't a robot

[@prufan]

@@ozalduin4383 Cassie absolutely acts like a child, Gregory never did. Roxy is likely still alive too.

[@purplepedantry]

For the argument between if the M.X.E.S. is just trying to keep the Mimic inside or if it's Glitchtrap, I'd say there's an easy solution: Both. If the Mimic is not the original programmed version we see in VR, which is very likely, that would mean that Glitchtrap - be it William Afton, the Mimic, or both - could be training, using, or manipulating it in some way. M.X.E.S. would therefore be possessed by Glitchtrap and be more invested in keeping you away from the Mimic instead of actually performing other security protocol.

[@mister_r447]

There can be multiple mimic1 programs. Burntrap could be one. Glitchtrap could be another. The blob could be yet another. Every animatronic as well. The orininal mimic was purposefully sealed away by Fazbear Entertainment, with the entrance sealed with concrete and with the M.X.E.S program making sure it remained hiden.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

Glitchtrap can’t as glitchtrap became a thing after they scanned a animatronics hard drive or something

[@mister_r447]

@@GrimReaper_TTV the mimic is an animatronic + thats just what the dev team was told.

[@ikaiju-eu9wn]

we also see the pink dress chica and the log ride from the books, also the costume mimic wears is a mix of lion, jester and a blue dog

[@superlemonslicer1224]

Cassie mentions a log ride in one of the item descriptions so that's another piece of evidence that tales is cannon

[@tardissins7512]

Fun fact: the ice cream ending is called the “Brazil ending” in the files.

[@LuisX0H]

In the code of the game the ice cream ending Is call the Brazil ending 😂

[@skycreeper0173]

Awesome video. I’m really satisfied with the answers we got for many of our questions. I do hope we get more info on the Blob soon.

[@chastox]

I think that the Good Ending is most likely the good ending, or the Fire ending. The Fire, Good, and Burntrap ending all need all the upgrades. Though I do think that the Good ending is canon. I do think that the Mimic is "Burntrap". Keep in mind they did redesign quite a few things. Like Bonnie Bowl being connected to Fazerblast, Roxy having a different Endo head, and the rabbit ears on many of the animatronics, though those could've been added storywise. Its very possible that Burntrap WAS going to be Afton but they retconned him to become the Mimic instead. Plus like you said the Mimic does shapeshift in the books. And about M.X.E.S. I think that the reason why they manifest as a rabbit and also appear in the Vanny Mask AR world is because they are a modified version of the glitchtrap virus or just in the same "world" that vanessa was trapped in. I think Vanessa or Gregory (Or both) could've modified Glitchtrap's code (thus the rabbit appearance) or completely removed him and put M.X.E.S. in. Why exactly they lead animtronics to you? Who knows honestly. Gregory did betray us (most likely), perhaps he's trying to get others killed aswell. Why? Who knows honestly. I think the Blob probably escaped after we saw it. We do know it was leaving or at least going up to the pizzaplex, it leaving for good does make sense. I think that Prototype Freddy is maybe a body that the Fazbear corporation were working on, basing off of the destroyed glamrock freddy found in Fazer Blast. They could've been doing it just to have freddy back... but they also could've been doing it to maybe build a super animatronic to fight the mimic. Roxy already had stood a pretty good chance. Fighting it off for a while, and she' s blind. Though thats just kinda a theory i whipped up on the spot it could be a lot of things. ("Also 3 parts that show that it could be our freddy" you say while he has no eyes.)

[@Strawberrygamer1]

The blob is still there though,the Freddy prototype isn’t Freddy,and the AR rabbit is probably the one stopping us from helping the mimic escape

[@higueraft571]

>the Freddy prototype isn’t Freddy This... is definitely questionable. When other characters have had retconned designs already (Roxy's endo head, which is ABSOLUTELY not the kind she had in SB) :V Not to mention how convenient the damage *and* location is, compared to what we see in PQ Ending... Alongside PQ being the only non-comic ending.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

@@higueraft571it has to be the same Roxy otherwise she wouldn’t know Cassie when Cassie had her birthday there when it was not destroyed

[@higueraft571]

@@GrimReaper_TTV Exactly. And the idea she "salvaged" a wholeass new head is kinda funny. Thus, likely a design Retcon, and Freddy *may* be similar in this case :V

[@TG-1176]

I think I know what is the blue-glitch-bunny is just a gaurd for the security-nodes I think gregory build that bunny and Vanessa help him to trap that mimic😁

[@Smashburrogames]

You can see the blob through a hole in the wall on the stairs seemingly looking for something before running into a tunnel to run away

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

I honestly think that Ruined Freddy being a prototype is a complete red-herring or a slight retcon. Freddy being a prototype could explain why he malfunctioned at the beginning of the main game, but none of the others did. However, it is curious that he has a gift box inside him; perhaps it's the Party Pass that he gives to Gregory if you choose to keep exploring instead of confronting Vanny. But I find it odd that he completely disappears when you put the mask on. Also, there is a possibility that Burntrap never existed and was purely made up by Gregory. Another thing is that I don't think the Mimic is exactly the one from the books, but instead the version in the game timeline, like how the the Storyteller is parallel to the Blob in the games.

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Problem with that is the writer sid the pizzaplex books are canon

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

When? And in that case, why do parallels exist if those elements co-exist?

[@vikingfromnorth45]

@@Wolfric_Rogers since 2019 it was in development and just last month

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

I've never heard that. Source?

[@deangeloenriquez1603]

11:20 I think the mimic1 program and the v1 mimic endo might be opposing forces in sb and sbr And Burntrap is probably a V2 mimic endo like the rest of the Endo‘s present but trained on the Afton data set

[@Shrekthe2nd]

The mimic can literally shapeshift its endo. The endo inside the Mascot costume ending is literally different than the basic mimic endo. He has burntrap's endo on his face. This is pretty obvious?

[@roboticgamer4645]

I think Mimic is Burntrap maybe cause of the arms If you look at the arms side by side,they look very similar Or maybe Burn trap is one of the Mimic endoskeletons cause we hear that there are a lot of mimics

[@theandroidpianist1722]

I don't think gregory pushed cassie away, We here the P/A glitch and gregory's voice switches to the broken sentences of the mimic. Plus that elevator was said to only have 1 good trip so seeing how PQ is seen as the cannon ending cassie used that trip getting down to the mimic(and somehow roxy too)

[@higueraft571]

>cassie used that trip getting down to the mimic(and somehow roxy too) That's a separate Elevator, but even with the "one trip only" rule, Roxy could jump down the Elevator Shaft, and Cassie would still have one trip back up from it, so not quite pushing it yet...

[@cheersy2206]

On a certain staircase I can’t remember where you can actually see the blob for a split second in a whole in the wall, the only time he shows up in the entire DLC, further towards the start of the dlc tho

[@corporalregicide5248]

I think the design discrepancies between the mimic and burntrap can easily be chalked up to a retcon we know scott was more hands on with RUIN then he was with SB (as confirmed by baz when he asked scott whilst at the FNAF movie set) and likely realized that burntraps design was the result of a failure in communication and gave people the wrong idea if you notice, the mimics left hand is the same type of "nightmare hand" that burntrap possesses all in all I believe it's fairly obvious that burntrap and the mimic are the same character because what the hell else could burntrap be?

[@justice8718]

The Mimic can repair itself.

[@jf_kein_k8590]

Hell, maybe "Burntrap" as we saw it in SB has never existed as we saw it. With that ending being not real, Gregory could have, from Vanessas description, made that design up.

[@Mermaids_orwhatever]

I guess if I were to have a theory I believe the burn trap ending is a red herring. It was to make us believe it was the real ending but it wasn’t. I think the princess quest ending is the real one, with it foreshadowing Cassie’s journey as well. The ice cream ending at the end of ruin also suggests like a “ joke” or maybe a too good to be true ending. I believe the Freddy head, greggory, and Vanessa did escape. But the burn trap ending was set up to make us think gregory could be in the basement, because even though it shows they got out in the ending comic , it’s possible they did get trapped and also dragged by the blob. ( we know they didn’t)

[@someonerandom8511]

Burntrap has too cool of a design to be wasted. I hope he followed the blob through the tunnel

[@kingj9664]

I'm gonna say for the sake of making money the most cannon in it is probably Gregory betraying Cassie. That way you can milk the finance a funny thing for as long as you need to

[@klaykid117]

I think the tales from the pizza place books are supposed to be Canon, but as sire squawks pointed out in his video, the book writers are work for higher writers who don't really know much about FNAF and are given a list of story beats which leads to very strange inconsistencies like the hippo magnet in the game being a crappy free gift that the staff is giving away to get rid of them because they didn't sell well, whereas the book writer "interpreted crappy hippo magnet in the trash can" this maintenance is too dangerous and destroys the systems so they were throwing it out which wouldn't make sense to give it out as a free gift to children who are literally going to stick it on any metallic surface they can find while playing at the pizzaplex

[@NixTheNekomimi]

What I think a lot of people miss is that during Gregory’s betrayal in the elevator is that his tone of voice shifts to be a bit darker. I think it implies more of the “Patient 46” side taking over in that moment.

[@GendoRokabundi]

We also see the Princess Quest III arcade cabinet with the golden sword stabbed through it, represented by a lantern in the mask off world.

[@thelivingdiveringsuit4906]

4:30 One other thing that also convinced me that it's Free Vannessa Ending is that when the (Spoilers) real Gregory contacts Cassie, he said as qouted "My friend has access to the building maps." At first, it could allegedly be Glamrock Freddy. But it is also possible that said "friend" is also Vanessa who previously "worked" as a security guard.

[@nicholasdorny1893]

One of my biggest mysteries: how does Cassie TELEPORT??? Like, through a monitor? Does the VANNI mask give her superpowers??

[@zgmfx-09a]

Bro was TIRED tired when he made this

[@Khyizer]

With this new information I’m curious if it’s possible the “blob” is the agony of the people the mimic killed. Would make sense why the blob would have beef with burntrap if burntrap is the mimic I guess?

[@el_Capitan_Dorado]

The afton amalgamation and puppet are inside of the blob because the mask of puppet is there so afton is the blob

[@sagrawolf]

One theory I heard was the blob was the result of lefty still being active and is going out of control because it’s final command is not being completed

[@superlemonslicer1224]

​​@@sagrawolfoh yeah I've seen that theory video too

[@snatcher2592]

Can we nickname The Entity "Hackrabbit"? Yknow, since it's not actually a "Trap" incarnation to our knowledge, and it's clever in a way akin to the "Malhare" nickname for glitchtrap

[@ethbeatthem4836]

I go with Vanny Ending being Cannon since A: Freddy is missing his head like in the Vanny ending B: “Burntrap” was no were mentioned anywhere meaning no one was down there C: Cassie have VANNI mask and that means Vanessa no where to be found. Also possible to break all 3 animatronics and save Vanessa if he did Chica last, saw Princess quest 1, did 2 after shattering Chica and then took Vanny up on her offer to confirm her when trying to leave after breaking the band.

[@cadentubeohara3970]

The entity isn’t named M.X.E.S because M.X.E.S is just the name of the pizzaplex security system in which it seems the entity was programmed in by Vanessa meaning it most likely is a altered version of glitchtrap’s code reprogrammed to keep the mimic trapped while still keeping the afton personality and manipulative thoughts which may explain why he can’t kill you himself he may be planning to let one of the animatronics knock you out so he can make you another vanny situation

[@shadowsoulless6227]

Me playing base sb: LOL, these animatronics are the dumbest thing ever! Man those security bots are stupid, let me jump on a table So they forget what object permanence is! Lololol! Me playing ruin: *constantly on edge*

[@painguy_404]

Imagine in game you see a new Vanny and you remove the to reveal it was Cassie that would be so awesome.

[@nakulemonadekitsune204]

Demuted running on pure CAFFINEEEEEE lmao

[@ExiledExact]

another detail that proves PQ ending is the canon ending is the fact that in the beginning of chapter 8 there is the PQ 3 arcade machine knocked on the floor with a lantern on and in the AR world has a Golden sword in it.

[@natesaurus4089]

If the Mimic truly is Burntrap, I’ve seen something that said the main reason for the eyes being different is because of Aftons agony, darkening the eyes while the Mimic was wearing his corpse

[@jay96yagami27]

My theory is that burntrap was the Mimics new body it built for itself that it transferred its program too but after the blob consumed it it went back to its old body and that explains why it looks different

[@deathsscythe7058]

A new question I have is why is shadow Bonnie on the static tv in the gift shop at the beginning of the game, he's there for a few seconds every now and then if you watch Markiplier video in the lowest speed you can see it

[@lemonscaled4274]

I feel like steelwool heard the feedback about how dumb burntrap and the blob were, and just retconned them entirely and replaced them with the mimic

[@higueraft571]

>I feel like steelwool heard the feedback about how dumb burntrap and the blob were, and just retconned them entirely and replaced them with the mimic Scott* didnt. Steel Wool isnt the one writing the Lore. Plus, this ignores the fact you DIRECTLY see The Blob ingame :V Unless there's another Blob-like mass of wires using Funtime Freddy's head floating around, for some reason, that burrowed the tunnel you use to reach Mimic?

[@Malarc695]

at the beginning of the game when cassie walks down the stairs were that endo was on the wall in sb we can see the blob slither into a hole.

[@jadedfox7177]

The thing with the entity and the Vanni mask could be that it's not glitch trap or the mimic. What if it's Bonnie? Bonnie knew about Vanessa and the staff bots and can exist basically as code. It's possible after the audio we found of Bonnie he became the program keeping the mimic locked up.

[@callumjones9664]

Also another thing to push us towards the saving Vanessa ending being canon is that at some point during the game we come across princess quest lll and when looking at it in AR there’s a large sword sticking out of the machine and the machine is off and the princess quest games only turned off after we finished them in SB

[@Shrekthe2nd]

We really don't need to consider that the burntrap isn't the mimic. The hand replaces on the mimic is the same hand burntrap lost, which we can literally find in Ruin. Burntrap not being the mimic isn't even a theory.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

Except the burntrap ending isn’t canon search it up on KZbin KZbinrs already made videos showing why the burntrap ending isn’t canon

[@rplgames1187]

4:43 whats weird is that the burntrap comic is the only one that doesnt say it was drawn by Gregory.

[@higueraft571]

>whats weird is that the burntrap comic is the only one that doesnt say it was drawn by Gregory. Several dont. Page 1 (Escape 1) "These look like Gregory drew them" Page 2 (Escape 2) "It's one of Gregory's comics." Page 3 (Fire Escape 1) "How long was Gregory working on these?" Page 4 (Fire Escape 2) "Gregory must have seen this mask before." Page 5 (Road Trip 1) "Gregory was always so creative" Page 6 (Road Trip 2) "Freddy is Gregory's favorite." Page 7 (Disassemble) "Gregory should be an artist when he grows up." Page 8 (Burntrap) "What is that supposed to be?"

[@rplgames1187]

@@higueraft571i meant that all of them have Gregorys name in it except page 8. And their description make it seem like they were drawn by him

[@Ares_Complex]

My thoughts: 1) I think that the PQ ending is the most likely one. BUT there is something wrong - V.A.N.N.I. unit. If Nessa was freed, why are we able to see the works of Vanny? It's her mask, a whole AI thingy with Helpi. She must have done all of this before Gregory came, otherwise it won't make sense. Yet we are unable to see her FNAF:VR mask nor any technology like we see in Ruin in SB. Unless PQ ending is not the one and a few years have passed since SB (as we can see by the state of the pizzaplex - an earthquake (caused by the -> child in Peepaw ending?), a mad child with his mecha and a few years of being abandoned can do that to a building, plus we can see that before pizzaplex was abandoned people clearly tried to rertore it) so Vanny wad some time to create the whole AR thingy going on in Ruin. But this makes everything a lot more complicated. Help I think I'm going insane. But that's the default state of all fnaf theorists, i guess. 2) Gregory is NOT a normal child. MAYBE. Gregbot sounds stupid, but how the hell did this child create M.X.E.S. (I assume that he was the one who did it) (unless Nessa did it? maybe? in the Brazil ending (the one with a cool art) (not sure if it IS the Brazil ending but it sounds silly and goofy) she was there + in the neutral ending Greg mentioned a friend, so Vanessa might be the one (if PQ ending is the true one) (but we have already confirmed that Greg is the p46???) but how did SHE make it in this instance?) 3) Books may be AUs, but in a different sense. The books may retell the lore of the games. Not "yeah that happened", but "yeah something similar happened". Or maybe not! Remember the Mimic being sealed in the books? (I don't, I didn't read them, I value my sanity) Conclusion: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Ruin? I was ruined once. They locked me in a room, a ruined room, a ruined room with mimics, the mimics made me ruin AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. (flesh sounds)

[@prufan]

I assume that a Fazbear technician made M.X.E.S, possibly the father of Cassie? Gregory definitely doesn't act like a child. And I'm just wondering how Fazbear Entertainment knew enough about Vanny in order to make a mask based on her image.

[@adammartinez8061]

I feel like another thing to points out to something being wrong is that A FNAF Theorist pointed out that In Vanny’s Hideout in RUIN, there is a giant smear of blood on the wall above Vanny’s bed.

[@lockskelington314]

The Real Question Everyone should be Asking is How was the Mimic able to Contact Cassy from the Basement and also give her a radio that connected to its own when it was in the Basement sealed away for years and If could do all that why did it need her to Free it if it could do all those things. Its not the Same as the M.X.E.S. Because it was trying to harm Cassy when she was trying to turn off the Nodes and the Mimic needs her to Free it.

[@jaffinator2166]

It’s my Headcanon that “Prototype” is a dev texture that was accidentally left in.

[@itselizauwu]

It’s pretty clear front an centre in the cutscene specifically having Freddy’s foot facing towards you. Steel Wool wanted you to see it and putting “prototype” on work in progress models makes no sense for devs to do

[@edenengland1883]

its definitely the vanny redeemed ending since you can find the Sword Of Light sticking out of the princess quest 3 cabinet

[@tamaskarsai2072]

5:35 ok than. Which means fazgoo is cannon, sea bonies are cannon, stich wraith is cannon, and ALLL the other stuff. Books are not 100% cannon to the game, because we still have conflicting characters and names. So in FNAF fassion, there are cannon things in the books towards the game, and there are paralels, and some stuff is just there. So "just" have to figure out what is cannon and what is not. We know at least 1 more thing being cannon now.

[@riskamation9368]

did you see shadow bonnie? he's in the game on a static screen no one has talked about him yet apart from me on my channel its quite rare I think

[@typervader]

That was edited by mark, not real.

[@riskamation9368]

@@typervader wait really?

[@riskamation9368]

@@typervader do you have any evidence on it?

[@typervader]

@@riskamation9368 The fact litterly nobody else has seen it

[@riskamation9368]

@@typervader I mean everyone probably thought shadow bonnie was fake in fnaf 2 for the same reason

[@Ayameex]

If the ending where Gregory, Vanessa, and Freddy's head escape is the cannon one, it seems to me that the decapitated Freddy must be the same one. Him being a Prototype would explain why he wasn't affected by the virus like the others, which was a big complaint among fans.

[@higueraft571]

Admittedly, it's either that or he's... simply running in Safe Mode.

[@Ayameex]

@@higueraft571 I always interpreted that as he glitched out and was then rebooted in safe mode.

[@WOWtheBrit]

The thing is about the blob is even though its implied it dug out you can find it in one of the stairwells below the pizzaplex

[@delanceallen8827]

My big question with prototype glamrock Freddy is why does he just disappear when put on the mask, I kinda think he like an illusion because of that fact because no other animatronic does the except golden Freddy which is a phantom (or has phantom like powers).

[@MonkeBunk]

You can actually see the blob at the start of the game when you go down the staircase you can see him in the hole in the wall for a split second

[@CadillacEulogy]

I definitely think the mimic we see is an entirely different thing and burntrap is actually afton. This mimic thing has been down there for longer than anything else, and plus the blob fucked off with burntrap, so why would this mimic thing be separated from the blob, trapped behind a wall, and at an even deeper point of the pizzaplex.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

Ok ur wrong afton is fully dead but the mimic isn’t burntrap as burntrap never actually existed as the princess quest ending is canon so vanny was freed before she could make burntrap

[@CadillacEulogy]

@@GrimReaper_TTV that would explain why burntrap is absent, but we don't know that definitively. Hell at this point all the endings could have certain plot points that are canon instead of one definitive ending being canon (which I myself am leaning towards).

[@bj_bjt]

M.X.E.S is not a villian he is the good guy

[@bj_bjt]

oh ok you said it after

[@1234book1]

Weird thought but I wouldn't be surpise with the wrong turn ending in ruin and the comic ending in breach being connected. In that it is an outcome, but one in which the veiws own sight is playing tricks on them. Similar to how waves of some degree are used in previous gamee to warp the perspective the persons seeing

[@gameasasin]

The entity is the m.x.e.s. security system that Vanessa and Gregory made to contain the mimic

[@Deltadog55]

The Mimic Does have Burntraps hand. Its possible it has parts of his corpse. That is unless burntrap is part of the blob

[@drycactus18]

Ill be the odd one out and say that the Blob ate Burntrap. On the model seen, the ears on the Bonnie head look similar to Burntrap. Blob + Afton = Eternal Torment

[@more-reasons6655]

Regarding which ending is cannon, wouldnt it make more sense that it's the princess quest ending as that has no Gregory drawn comic to be found in ruin, also worth noting theres no vanny in the game, the one use left elevator to the old pizza plex still works, Freddy is missing his head, his body is found where it's left in the Vanny ending and you even pointed out that Vanessa is on the hill with Gregory in one of Ruin's endings Edit: loud mouth is too quiet, but he said a similar thing to me

[@Sandwhichioussandwhich512]

6:40 if you look at the actual model the burn trap legs are on the mimic

[@Anima--L]

Nah the mimic has to have been locked in the pizza place before the construction of the pizza plex. The door was concreted over. And nah th mimic can't be burntrap the sizes are wrong and the endo model to it just doesn't make sense.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

U mean it had be locked in before the construction of the pizzaplex as u said pizza place twice

[@DJisslightlyaverage]

Burntrap could be the glitchtrap Mimic that copied Afton while the mimic we see in the dlc is mimic 01

[@AshleyOrange]

Gregory's comic pages found in RUIN are all panels from every single ending including Burntrap EXPECT Princess Quest/Vanessa Free so I think it's pretty clear that is the canon ending no matter what other evidence says

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

I don't think the comic pages confirm that the Burntrap ending is non-canon. If that is the case, then it raises a few questions.

[@AshleyOrange]

@@Jedi-ge6lr It may raise questions, but I think Steel Wool is trying be clear because they could have just added a comic for Princess Quest or not gave Burntrap ending a comic. What other explanation is there for Princess Quest being literally the only ending to not have a comic page in RUIN

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

@@AshleyOrange While that is a fair point, the one of the Burntrap ending raises some obvious questions. Like, sure, he knows that the Mimic is down their, but how does he know what it looked like while it was Burntrap, or better yet, how does he know what the Blob looks like?

[@justice8718]

Or the Mimic drew them instead.

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

@@justice8718 While that is a good theory, there's a good bit of evidence right now that goes against it. But again, not enough to debunk it.

[@YoshiBoi08]

These are all great questions to ask, but I think there's a better question to ask: AND THAT IS WHERE IS DJ MUUUSSSIC MAN!?

[@ashuraomega7113]

Actually yeah where was he during the DLC? Very confusing

[@Osanosa]

Blob is actually in the stairs section

[@elciervoparaguayo3756]

I don't think the books are canon canon, like the events of the books are separate from the games but both share similarities, similar to how The Silver Eyes had similarities, like names, some familiar relationships and places, but the events of the books never happened in the games, the mimic is equivalent to the name drop of William Afton and Henry, because this mimic is not even the same mimic as seen in the books. Also for me it seems like all endings are not canon, since this pizzaplex was destroyed by an earthquake instead of collapsing because of the sinkhole

[@Fred_and_Max]

I think that the ending where Gregory keeps Freddy’s head.

[@riskopalfi801]

I actually don't think that Cassie will become the new Vanny. Remember Vanny only made the mask once she was already possesed. The Mimic posseses people through the VR game. Not through masks. If that was the case, why go through all that trouble impersonating Gregory, and then trying to kill her, when he could just control Cassie himself? And about the implant, I really believe it's just a communication device.

[@edenengland1883]

something odd about the weird implant version of Helpy is that one of the first time you see him, he's strangely veiny with differently coloured eyes, so theres definitely something up with him (maybe even beyond him being controlled by the mimic)

[@riskopalfi801]

@@edenengland1883He is definitely the Mimic, but I´ve seen some claim that Cassidy might also be a candidate.