DnD Player Calls DM N Word And Goes Psycho | r/rpghorrorstories

[@Juju2927]

"What's the worst thing someone said that made you want to never have that player at your table ?" I think nothing will beat the story about that Aaracokra Duck player who, when told that SA was forbidden at the table, replied "How am I supposed to have sex if I have to ask for consent ?"

[@Lionwoman]

He even choose the duck for a reason if you know about ducks... Big Yikes.

[@littlegiantj8761]

How low does your self-esteem gotta be?

[@offensivename11]

Anytime you feel entitled to sex, your self-esteem is too damn high.

[@GarkKahn]

Still what amaze me was the part it took him hours to know ducks don't ask for consent

[@YouW00t]

If I had a nickle for every time I've heard of a player who wanted to play a Duck Aaracokra just to be justified in committing SA I'd have two nickles, which isn't much but I'm baffled it's happened twice.

[@georgeholstein5230]

"lets meditate with simba to increase our resistance" my dude simba looks like he failed his check to not be intimidated by the vacuum

[@teheles]

Simba : I was here, human. I was here when the cringe arised and the fun fall. I've seen many things... too many things.

[@Theokal3]

.... the dad who grounded his son for trying to use his job as leverage against the table deserves a medal.

[@mikeesplace]

That is good parenting, gives me a little hope for the future

[@Ontomancer]

It's always refreshing to see good parenting!

[@ghost7685]

that's stupid. That will just put a divide between the father and the son.

[@mikeesplace]

@@ghost7685 How do you think he should have handled it?

[@starkiller1289]

@@ghost7685 Please explain how, the son was actively threatening paying/potential customers with a lifetime ban just because they thought they'd get their way through nepotism. The grounding was probably a lesson to say "hey, just because I own/control the store doesn't mean you can use my position to threaten others"

[@adamfutch6719]

I love hearing "it's what my character would do." Because then I get to drop my new favorite response. "And what the guards are about to do to your character is what they would do. Last warning."

[@The_gaming_archaeologist]

A very appropriate response. You should always consider the party when making a character. My favourite evil character hangs with the group to "appear normal" and give an air of plausible deniability that a member of the hero group certainly wasn't involved in any kinds of slavery and the monsterous howls from his warehouse must be the wind echoing.

[@corsaircarl9582]

I only say "It's what my character would do" in a positive way. Example: My Warforged is usually a tactically minded character; so 'what my character would do' is come up with a plan and speak like a soldier.

[@KHFMcAwesome]

“I don’t care that their feelings are hurt! We really all supposed to be adults here!” … and adults are human beings that have feelings that can be hurt.

[@mirandapanda5439]

Right.. that doesn't stop after our child stages.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

If you have a melt down over hurt feelings you aren't an adult.

[@ChobinoftheFunk]

​@@kevinsullivan3448If you refuse to consider the feelings of those around you, you are not an adult.

[@silvereaglestudios]

Murder Hobo Player: "BuT iT's WhAt My ChArAcTeR wOuLd Do!" Lawful Good Paladin Player: "And stopping you is what my character would do."

[@fred_derf]

If you're going to play/DM an evil campaign it's incredibly important to discuss (and agree) what is meant by "evil". Is it Sopranos, Casino, Reservoir Dogs, Shining, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw or Human Centipede? Or something else? Even being an evil campaign there are (or probably should be) lines that aren't crossed, topics that are off-limits. An "evil campaign" can be incredibly fun, if it's approached seriously, but far too often an "evil game" is simply code for "everyone plays a *chaotic-stupid murder-hobo".*

[@ArcCaravan]

Yep. Evil campaign doesn't automatically mean "be the vilest you can imagine". It can be Saturday Morning villains, career criminal, cult, realistic empire, etc. Just remember that it still should be fun for everyone.

[@GarkKahn]

Yeah most "evil' campaigns are just people being murderers or rapists You can use a GTA style for your evil campaigns since they're criminals after all

[@marcusreading3783]

​@ArcCaravan an evil campaign where you play as the minions of a Power Rangers esqu villain could be cool. Or something where the characters are more like Doofinshmertz than All For One.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@marcusreading3783 Personally I'd like to play an evil campaign as Bowser or some E-rated video game villain.

[@lordofpidgeons]

I find it funny that he made that point about communication and then butchers it by letting the DM talk for hours.

[@leekonze7441]

"That's not realistic!" was said by a player after his Sorcerer was arrested for beating a merchant to death, in broad daylight, in the middle of a busy open-air market. "You can't tell me no, that's taking away my player agency," said to me after i told a player that there is no SA in my games. "You're my friend, you have an obligation to run DnD for me;" said to me after i said I don't have the time or energy to run games. "In game magic removes the need for out of game consent" said by a player after his character used mind control magic to force another player character to have sex with them, despite the opposing player, and me as the GM, repeatedly saying no. This player was immediately kicked

[@oobtty]

the first one is just a complete lack of common sense

[@doan2300]

Weirdest player Excuse I saw was in a dnd game where another player made a character he described as 'having a problem with authority'. The character then murderously attacked any and all people with even the slightest authority on sight, including other PCs. I thought that player was fairly experienced so idk where that one came from.

[@crystaltydemagic]

Group called problem GM/Player in to a chat Problem: "-and my vacation was great. Anyway, moving forward-" Player: "No no no. We aren't doing that again. Do you even know why we are mad? Problem: "..............No. Not really." Problem had insulted the entire discord, destroyed the game, deleted key notes, abandoned the server. Ignored everyone for a month with complete radio silence.

[@alanbear6505]

“It’s what my character would do.” Sure, but it’s the character you chose so it’s still on you.

[@fred_derf]

“It’s what my character would do.” Sure, but you made your character that way to hopefully justify you being an a**hole.

[@AmaryInkawult]

There was this one character of mine who wanted to colonize a barren land because he believed there was potential in the land and it just needed enough funding. So I had him send back money to the colony he set up there so they can build up and search for water wells. The party eventually reached the colony and it was already thriving with greenery and farmland with plants unique to the area, some of which were on the verge of extinction before the colony's intervention. And soon a mine was being dug once the party arrived. And finally when the party returned to the colony years later in the campaign, it had become a lively city hub that was self sustaining on their water pump tech. Making the colony a popular stopping point for water traders in the nearby desert villages. THAT is how you colonize. None of that bullshit warring.

[@Juju2927]

In general if your DM is a good one, whenever he sees you try to invest time and ressources into something that doesn't sound "completely dumb", they tend to reward you with something in return. That's how you gain your players' engagement and interrest. But yeah, that guy just wanted to do all of this out of spite and nothing else.

[@GarkKahn]

The warring can work But you need at least 0,5 brain cells working

[@easiestcc6451]

11:28 "Is that even a thing?" Yes doge, it very much IS a thing.

[@indifferentsmiley]

That last story. I can't stand the "we gave clear signs" were the clear signs "we are uncomfortable" in a written letter or verbal statement? As someone with autism, if you're projecting physical social indicators I am not on your level. I cannot read your mind. SPEAK.

[@Sanodi21]

The fact the guy dropped the N word without hesitation and screamed at the others like that for not helping him 'colonize' is saying he's got more extreme views with those problems

[@TigerW0lf]

Sounds to me like the guy was an escaped mental patient with a programming degree if he's sending Trojan horse emails

[@vortega472]

Simba, you meditation master - that was just what I needed after a long day.

[@solosynapse]

... There's not a single thought in Simba's head, is there? 😂 Keep up the good work, Doge. I listen to your videos while at work & on my commute!

[@Remoniq]

Nah, Simba is just too wise for us to even come close to his thoughts.

[@enchantedeboy9027]

I used to be a problem player when I was starting out. For a little while, my character was suicidal. I’m not sure what my thought process was but I didn’t go out of my way to try to die. I realize now that a character like that is annoying and bothersome for the other players.

[@deepseastonecore3017]

Barbarians backstory Mom gave me a small trident to fight these things called vegetables and dad said he was called a formal fighting against the veg so they said make sure you eat all your veg on your plates

[@RiveroftheWither]

The "Those Guys" post really highlights just how far rhudimentary empathy and consideration can take you. How? Well I'm autistic playing a Curse of Strahd campaign, right from the get go we had a Strahd specific trigger list. One of the other players listed that mention of self harm bothered them but I was playing a Blood Hunter at the time, self harm is literally hiw they use their powers. So I simple didn't describe anything and just said "I use my Crimson Rite and take 2 damage", I'm not losing anything by not going into graphic detail to respect that player. Conversely? That same player is a theater kid and gets WAY into roleplaying in a good way. However they used to get too into it and getting really loud. I have a lot of sensory sensitivities and loud noises and yelling are part of it, so I asked them to please not get so loud and they stopped. This campaign has been going on for almost 2 years and we've all become good friends. This is what happens when you don't make your whole personality about being abrasive and rude.

[@ghost7685]

that's stupid. I'm guessing the player who is over sensitive has a very comfortable life.

[@RiveroftheWither]

@@ghost7685 Oh look it's one of those guys! A guy that blames the world for his inability to act like a human.

[@ghost7685]

@@RiveroftheWither dude. Do i need to spell it out for you? The people who are usually bothered by suicide and self harm are the ones who are least likely to do it. Some of the things keeping my from swan diving into concrete from a 6 story high building was, surprise surprise, suicide jokes. Helps people who are actually going through shit cope with it. Not the over sensitive jackass who needs everyone to cater to his/her feelings because he/she has never had to deal with actual shit.

[@RiveroftheWither]

@@ghost7685 Do I need to spell it out to you? No one cares that you're miserable and want others to suffer as your cope. No one cares that you feel entitled to a jack🫏 free pass because mommy always let you do whatever you wanted and never taught you about empathy. No one cares that you watch psychology Tiktok and suddenly think you're an expert because one person told you what you wanted to hear because it fit your preconceived notions. No one has to play with or put up with you when you've made your whole personality about treating people like crap and thinking you're better for it.

[@RiveroftheWither]

@ghost7685 Do I need to spell it out to you? No one cares that you're miserable and want others to suffer as your cope. No one cares that you feel entitled to a jack🫏 free pass because mommy always let you do whatever you wanted and never taught you about empathy. No one cares that you watch psychology Tiktok and suddenly think you're an expert because one person told you what you wanted to hear because it fit your preconceived notions. No one has to play with or put up with you when you've made your whole personality about treating people like crap and thinking you're better for it.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

I swear all the "You're trying to railroad me" stories have got to be the same deranged individual. Vore, short for Carnivore, is a sexual kink that involves eating another sentient being or being eaten by someone or something. It is a close cousin of Unbirthing. It's amazing what you learn in almost 30 years on the internets. I'm not sure if the player was into it or complaining that inactions have consequences. I never had a player that I needed to kick from a game. Typically, everyone already knew whop the problem players were and avoided them. If a new problem player showed up it was usually discovered in a game at the hobby shop or Rec Center so they were never invited to private games. I was a paid GM before it was a thing, back in 90-91. I stopped because some players expected Monty Haul style gaming. I am always suspicious of those who claim to be 'professional' game masters as they normally turn out to be less than adequate and generally only run D&D. For the last story... I always prepare a 'Campaign Primer' that provides common knowledge information about the setting, a "what ever character knows about the world" so that no one will be surprised when the tribe that doesn't take prisoners doesn't take prisoners and so on. If the players don't read the information then they have no one to blame than themselves if they are shocked by a revelation that was in the bible if they just bothered reading it. I am also strict about characters that are or are not appropriate to the game and that is also in the Primer. As an example, I'm currently working on a Call of Cthulhu campaign where all the Male PCs will be WWI veterans. You don't want to play a WWI Vet? Then you aren't playing in this game at the beginning as being veterans is extremely important at the beginning. If a male character dies he can be replaced by a suitable non-vet Investigator, but at the very beginning all men will be Vets.

[@ephraimjohnson8146]

I don't know if it's just me, but I have had a lot of "that's what my character would do" moments as a player and none of party has ever been mad or frustrated with me about it. This is across multiple TTRPGs, spanning multiple years with the same players - some of whom have also DMed, and one main DM who just takes a short shot break every once in a while. Does that just mean I'm not doing it the 'wrong' way, or does it mean they're excusing it? Because our main DM will boot anyone without fear - they banned their friend of fifteen years and completely cut him out of their life over a hostile discussion where said friend doubled down on some toxic behavior. There must be other people who don't just use "it's what my character would do" to justify being a murder hobo or otherwise be gross, right? Because a lot of times, in my experience, I sigh in exasperation because I'm playing a character fundamentally more "stupid" than me, and I do what I think they would do instead of what I would personally do. That's roleplay, isn't it?

[@BlueTressym]

Simba looks like he's int eh midst of an existential crisis. While we all know that "Saying something," is often the 'best' thing to do, the Venn diagram of TTRPG Players and Conflict-averse People has a large overlap.

[@danwizzle91]

Your videos always make my day man especially with the meditating kitties

[@phobiawitch835]

Into the “That Guy Responses” story and the ine who used Meta Knowledge just made me angry. I recently joined an Icewind Dale game that’s free to play at a store my fam shops at. I have ran the adventure as a DM (we went on indefinite Hiatus a few months ago sadly, right before the final battle). I was open with the DM about this, and with other players. I remember GENERAL plots of some quests, and a few Twists that come from LATER in the adventure, but only because they are so ingrained in my memory. When it comes to puzzles, I might remember a few, bit that would take more effort than RPing my character as they should be, less in the Know on puzzles and such. I can separate neta knowledge from my character with ease, and honestly want to take a Backseat since the table has at least 1 new player. Most of what I did in session 1 was help establish our group and try to encourage RP between party members

[@Floweramon]

11:26 Literally anything can be a kink to someone.

[@blaringsea8923]

The "That guy" who wanted to use a homebrew character that was basically the Doomslayer and wanted guns in a homebrew campaign based on Final Fantasy 1.

[@chinangel]

I have used the 'it's what my character would do' excuse before, BUT WITH A MAJOR CAVEAT! It was to explain why they were making sub-optimal decisions, acting irrationally, or prioritizing something over something else, and I always used it as an apology BEFORE doing the action. I'd explain that 'she' do this because x and y.' So there is a narrow margin where that excuse is valid.

[@alexandramusilova8148]

"I didn't realize you thought it was SA, I was just flirting." (no, dude, you were groping an NPC who repeatedly asked you to stop and continued even after I told you to stop out of character because you thought it was funny and you wanted to "distract" the NPC while the rest of the party wrecked the place) "That doesn't count as grooming, I was asking that for their own good!" (same person, in the same message, when I pointed out they wouldn't be playing at my tables again unless they stopped asking an underage player about their sexual preferences, whether they hated their genitals enough to be trans, etc.) For further context, a message came from them about two years after the table fell apart due to these and other issues and I naively thought that maybe in that time, they became a better person, so I entertained them at first and gave them a list of unacceptable behaviors they did while playing and that would have to change. They had a complete meltdown and, obviously, were not permitted to join again.

[@justinmargerum2559]

Intro: Simba! Not gonna lie, I usually hit the "Like" button as soon as one or more of the cats appear. Story 1: That's quite a freakout over completely reasonable in-world consequences for in-world behavior. Stories that this are why I'm seriously reluctant to game with strangers. Story 2: Is it just me, or is that a LOT of problem players? It's curious that OP hasn't developed better screening skills from experience. Story 3: I feel bad for OP paying for such a bad experience. Sounds like this game was actually worse than most free games. Story 4: Yep; another example of the need to communicate and agree upon expectations and boundaries going in, and if need be, in real time during the game itself.

[@atraxian5881]

11:27 the less you think about it, the better, but yes... Vore is a thing... Sadly...

[@monikasernek1177]

I was thinking that there might be as a separate thing consider that there are more gore themed f*tishes, but I'm not willing to look it up. But on the other hand - vore has weird subcategories.

[@ThForgemaster42]

And in this case, a particular, (normally) slime related type

[@xei2694]

Kinkshamer.

[@gloryarrowthescaredhamster]

No thoughts, just orange floof

[@BlueTressym]

Not his turn for the brain cell.

[@aidanthornton173]

This is a comment that got a guy kicked in the first ten seconds of the campaign. I (A guy) decided to play an female Artificer just for fun (I usually play male characters). As we were introducing our characters to the setting, I described my Artificer walking into the room in full Medium armour with tool bags attached to her backpack. *That Guy:* Hey, you playing an artificer, y'know those people usually have artificial limbs right, I bet your character is a *"Real Fuck Nugget"* under that armour! Dm immediately kicks him from the game, the guy leaves with a look of utter confusion on his face as he can't understand what he said that was wrong. *Edit:* This whole thing took place in a store where there were small children within earshot of his comment.

[@littlegiantj8761]

I should have banned one guy from my Cyberpunk game after he asked in the group chat if the the Mr. Studd had a "cyberprostate" No...just no.

[@ghost7685]

i would be too. What did he do wrong? Are you actually a woman and started complaining?

[@littlegiantj8761]

@@ghost7685 he made an egregiously u inappropriate comment

[@ghost7685]

@@littlegiantj8761 All he did was joke that the guys female character could have big tits. Unless you're just joking around you people lived up to the HR meme "everything is sexual harassment"

[@aidanthornton173]

@@ghost7685 Because he made a wildly inappropriate comment in a store with children nearby.

[@SEAFInfantry]

8:30 I was listening to this part and was like "Well... He apologized, surely what he did wasn't that bad!" And then the context hit.

[@7thsealord888]

Story #1 - Very simply, That Guy tried to screw over the entire campaign, because he copped consequences for HIS OWN idiotic actions. Sounds like the DM handled it reasonably well. But, as usual, I'd have kicked this #### much sooner. Story #2 - The central theme for pretty much all of this is that it is NEVER anything That Guy might have done. Story #3 - This would be bad enough if the DMing was FREE, but paying for this cr#p is completely unacceptable. Story #4 - Rather than timing how long the DM would go off topic, maybe the Players should have, I dunno, told him loudly to get back ON topic?

[@The_gaming_archaeologist]

That last one with often waffling on makes me think of myself and sounds like a common autistic/adhd trait too. Especially might be how he didn't notice people weren't interested.

[@LucyBean42]

I've only kicked two players, one for creeping on another player, and the other never gave me a response after I kicked him for being an antagonist almost every campaign for 25 years.

[@ghost7685]

Out of curiosity. can i know what was "Creepy"?

[@SrenHolm-k3o]

Wait, he is paying a GM to GM, and the GM brings in his problem player girlfriend? RUN!!!!!!

[@hellcat64]

worst excuse i had was none. told them begone thot, and no reply. just sat at my table laughing abit.

[@shipper-of-heart8898]

Was there a different thumbnail for this before? I saw it this morning and it was a different title and the thumbnail was like an anime guy staring and going 'how dare you kill my character...'

[@brianvance1178]

Story 2: my response to those guys would have been “fuck you, I’m the DM, what I say goes. Don’t like it? Leave! Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out”. Also, “if THAT is what your character would do, then your character can fuck off and die while you create a new one that WON’T do that”.

[@randomrants148]

An evil monk that tires to colonize an island does sound like interesting concept it sounds like the player should ask the DM this is the kind of player I want to.. is it okay. I want to play character like this but if the DM said no that is fine there is no reason to send malware and ransomware. Edit: also the n word is uncalled for.

[@zrswitch8434]

That last story is so odd. It did kinda boil down to they where in a evil story and had issues...being evil? Really should have just told the DM that sort of thing isn't for them.

[@ArcCaravan]

More like a difference between career criminals and psychopaths. Not every evil campaign requires graphic violence.

[@AlinNightwing]

Simba for president

[@soldierbreed]

That first guy actually sounds like a good orgins for a villain, not a PC tho😂

[@ArcCaravan]

A good amount of problem players' characters make better villains than party members.

[@loganhigdon3579]

Like playing with a 12 year old. . . Drake knows something about that

[@studiogimli7645]

14:40 vampire the masquerade taken too far

[@claudiamcfie1265]

I always hit like for the cats 🐈

[@comradesascha3734]

I'll say DMPC's can be well enough that players don't mind the spotlight on them a bit, My DM's DMPC is well done enough that when the spotlight was on them the party enjoyed it because the party liked the character as a relatable underdog goofball. c:

[@marybdrake1472]

Wow, that story was a long list of some of the lamest excuses I've ever heard. OP clearly had been a DM for quite a while to have been fed so many.

[@littlegiantj8761]

Very much so if Obama of all people is mentioned

[@Remoniq]

Story 2: I kind of forgot the part that it wasn't the same player who said all that.

[@CooperAATE]

Ooh, DTT is here!

[@axelwulf6220]

Ah yes, the ol' "I'm not going to play a character to fit your game" trick DMs absolutely love it when players play a character that just cannot fit into the world they created because conforming is for chumps

[@littlegiantj8761]

"You're playing a Bronze Age/Biblical style game? Here's my Space Elf Gunslinger

[@nabra97]

I mean, fantasy of swallowing people whole is an actual kink, and it seems to be popular? Idk, not my gem, but I see it mantioned a lot. Not sure about digesting, but I wouldn't be surprised. But, I mean, unless the issue included some vivid descriptions of the PC being digested, it's not the first thing most people would think about. I still can imagine somebody just having problems with the idea of their characters being eaten, but it's something they had to mantion before the campaign started

[@corsaircarl9582]

Do these vore idiots know that ya know, could kill them?

[@imarro9274]

How dare you not give me my way in all things!! I shall insult your players and call you racial slurs until you see the error of your ways! Seriously, *is* there a headspace in which this reasoning actually *works??*

[@alphons1456o]

Yeah, the headspace of the guy who thinks like that. Only in that mental hellscape does that get what they want.

[@ArcCaravan]

My best guess is either blinded by rage or thinking it'll intimidate/"convince" them they're wrong for disagreeing with the tirade being justified punishment.

[@monikasernek1177]

08:30 Would it be considered a bad thing if I would (if I would be the DM) put this guy into the snu-snu chambers? Or if he would fall into the succubi cave?

[@ArcCaravan]

Probably. Double standards and all that.

[@monikasernek1177]

@@ArcCaravan Why? He didn't thought the other player would be upset that what he has done to her character (and then later to a female npc). Of course - We don't know what he has done exactly and things has to be talk about, but if he doesn't respect that no means no after that he deserves to be thrown out of the game.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@monikasernek1177 Throw him out of the game, sure. I just don't believe SA is a good punishment for SA.

[@monikasernek1177]

@@ArcCaravan I know it, but sometimes those that guy dudes say that it's not a "big deal" or it's a "dark joke" should learn that their male character can get the short end of the stick too. It's not like I would describe it in details - it would be more like: Oh no. Your character fall down into a cave with 20+ succubi. (Hand out empty character sheet)

[@ArcCaravan]

@@monikasernek1177 I can understand that train of logic. Granted I could also see them either fetishizing such a fate or complaining about the fade to black, ruining the "eye for an eye" attempt.

[@deadzone4033]

I got a plan!

[@nicholashobart8140]

What's the thumbnail from?

[@Galaxykuma]

It's from an anime called Future diaries. I don't really recommend it.

[@blackdragon620]

Some players makes me wonder how they would act in real life if they were given enough power to actually do the same things they do/attempt to do while playing. I know it’s just fiction and all, but it’s still quite scary, if you think about it

[@boxturtlebruce6110]

Kick me from the game and my uncle will kick you from the store I can do what I want ( his uncle kicked him from the store )

[@ArcCaravan]

"Him" the kicker or "him" the uncle's nephew?

[@boxturtlebruce6110]

@@ArcCaravan the uncle kicked the nephew out but it was only for that session

[@ArcCaravan]

@@boxturtlebruce6110 K. I had to ask. Felt like a "who's on first" situation if that makes sense. Probably because one guy said the father/uncle should have supported son/nephew just for being family.

[@Lazerscythe]

Heard another YTber go through this same tale yesterday, do you guys not work together to not post the same stories in the same week?

[@ArcCaravan]

Probably not. They also don't always have the same viewers. None of them have dibs on tabletop horror stories.

[@windscar15]

The fact that there’s a thriving community of people who do nothing but amplify negative experiences in the hobby does not bode well for the community as a whole

[@ArcCaravan]

@@windscar15 Sharing negative experiences isn't the same as amplifying them. Some people use them as examples of what not to do or evidence that there's worse than subpar gameplay.

[@dracone4370]

What Monk archetype do you think Simba would be? Assuming he and the other kitties are all Tabaxis in the same party with Doge as their leader. Personally, I think Doge would be a Bard, but what Bard archetype do you think he would be?

[@littlegiantj8761]

Lore

[@tackjens]

first story could be cool,

[@Thedude4777-gh1lj]

I mean the Obama one is pretty legit as there’s a good possibility they can’t define what a woman is.

[@babyoda1973]

I got band after killing off two parties as a noob apparently i have a knack for finding a one shot environmental kill in the first 10min damn why are all my characters mentally ill 😂. So per there decision ive never played again 😢 i don't want to ruin it for the community 😊

[@Cyberswarm632]

Those Guys remind me of a quote from the Conan the barbarian story Tower of the Elephant: "Civilized men are more rude than barbarians, because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split as a general thing". There are times I wish we lived in a more barbaric world.

[@ArcCaravan]

Hopefully such a barbaric world would have such nuisances as weaklings who can't back up their barking.

[@ghost7685]

in the last story the op is the problem player. "evil" but he doesn't want anything bad.

[@mediocrewolfsif]

Thats what i'm saying! How are you going to join an Evil campaign and then complain after other players do some evil shit?

[@ArcCaravan]

Evil campaign doesn't mean you have to enjoy torture and be a murderhobo. There's more than one way to be an evil character.

[@ghost7685]

@@ArcCaravan You're just making an excuse to not let others enjoy it. They have agreed to it so let them do it. I can apply your logic in a different way. "You can be good in different ways. In their campaign they taught the child that dogs can be dangerous. Not by keeping him safe from the aggressive dog and informing him, but rather letting the dog rip of his arm so he learns how dangerous dogs can be." It's 100% not about the campaign but rather that guys "feelings" and how he wants everyone to cater to him.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@ghost7685 Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, since you're looking for an excuse to portray someone who doesn't like graphic violence as wrong just for not liking it. Nothing wrong with people enjoying fictional graphic violence, but forcing it on others is a problem. Acknowledging it's a problem is the first step to discussing solutions, which is better than just suffering quietly just to cater to someone who doesn't care about ruining the game for others.

[@ghost7685]

​@@ArcCaravan The guys don't like it, they go into a campaign designed around it, so they knew the thing they don't like would be there. Now they are upset that the thing they don't like is in the campaign where it is agreed that it will be there. The op was the problem, either he shuts up and just bares with it or he leaves. This is like going to a metal concert and complaining about the music.

[@mikeisernie]

1. Story one... This is almost a bad GM story, not a bad player story. The moment the player said "Im going to kill one of the leaders."...the GM needed to nip that shit immediately because thats a story hijack. Everything after is a self-inflicted wound.

[@caaliber115]

It's a bad GM and player story. Bad because the player was a dick and bad cause the GM here should've kept his players together. The moment the guy wanted to make a character that wasn't part of the group proper is when I would've told him, "No, you'd miss out on info. I also don't want you getting upset later down the road when your character doesn't get to be with the party for crucial campaign moments." But probably ended better having this guy reveal his true personality.

[@fred_derf]

The DM fell down not making the leader several levels above the player and handing him his ass when he attacked.

[@ArcCaravan]

I'd say the player's response absolves the DM. Otherwise DM is guilty for ever talking to the problem player in the first place.

[@fred_derf]

@@ArcCaravan The DM certainly gets some of the blame for allowing the character in the first place. He knew the character was a bad idea but let himself get talked into it. As soon as the player wanted to make a character that didn't go along with the stated concept for the game the DM should have shut it down. They were all supposed to be Monks from that temple -- the Problem Player wanting to be an outsider is as bad as them wanting to be a Sorcerer.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@fred_derf Considering DM had no idea the problem player was going to do in the campaign and how it was all going perfectly fine for everyone else before the elder's murder, there was nothing inherently wrong with a monk that wasn't originally part of the temple. Problem player would probably respond the same way if DM responded differently without giving the baby his bottle.

[@ilikepie21234]

Doggie :)

[@Forever-GM-Dusty]

I feel like you actually can blame the DM of that last story. Not for failing to pick up on bad communication, but for establishing it in the first place. Evil campaigns can be real touchy if everyone isn't on the same page. If you're going to run one, you need to build a good system of communication, boundaries, and expectations between your players. It will break down otherwise. And if you can't handle that, you should not be dming it. Otherwise you're just enabling a situation that will make people uncomfortable

[@ghost7685]

you're a group of people. you are uncomfortable by default

[@ArcCaravan]

​@@ghost7685So that excuses anyone's problems?

[@Forever-GM-Dusty]

Let me be clear: uncomfortable in an unhealthy and potentially unsafe way

[@ghost7685]

@@Forever-GM-Dusty that's not uncomfortable then. being uncomfortable is like being in a room that is 2 degrees above average temp.

[@Forever-GM-Dusty]

@@ghost7685 so was this an argument predicted off my not using a strong enough word despite my message being obvious and clear? You should really be aware of how you came off, as to the rest of the world it seemed you were arguing that because people aren't perfectly happy with each other all the time, this situation wasn't necessarily worse in a meaningful way

[@Holo66]

based player

[@AmaryInkawult]

Seventh

[@LucyBean42]

The middle story with "those guys", you have way the hell too many of these. Not to be in the what is true realm, but maybe context for why you've got too so many of these shitty player stories.

[@fred_derf]

DM for a "everyone welcome" game night at a local game store? There are lots of scenarios where you don't get to pick and vet your players but "have to" play with whoever shows up.

[@windscar15]

There’s a fair bit of genuine assholes in that bunch but that DM is definitely leaving out details on purpose. Some of them sound more like the DM didn’t handle the interaction well and they’re trying to save face.

[@khankorpofficial]

Based!!!!

[@mattanderson5921]

Always play with people you know.

[@BlueTressym]

Not everyone has that option and it's not always a silver bullet either. Plenty of OPs have mentioned failing to have a session zero because "We all knew each other," and yet, they still ended up in a horror story.