Do All Trans Teens Think the Same? | SPECTRUM

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00:00 Intro
00:29 I would date a cisgender individual
02:28 You should be able to medically transition before adulthood
04:05 My teachers are accepting of my pronouns
05:42 I have come out more than once
07:16 Cisgender individuals do not understand my struggles
08:31 Life would be easier if I wasn't trans
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[@jubilee]

Our bad! At 4:20 Gibby's pronouns should be "he/him" and at 6:08 Bry's pronouns should be "they/them". Our deepest apologies from the Jubilee team for that error.

[@tophernuzzo6446]

You guys could easily delete and reupload the video instead of using people’s incorrect pronouns in a video that will live online forever lol. But go off.

[@nekotamo1851]

Lmfao

[@samarkriaa]

reupload the video and correct it

[@foushoo]

@@tophernuzzo6446 is it that deep?

[@uklorien3477]

Aren’t “they” and “them” used for more than one thing? Why is she referred to as such?

[@madeleinevandermerwe2657]

Would've loved to see the following prompts: "My parents support my transition" "Fully transitioning is important to me" "I realized I was trans at a young age" "I'm worried I'll regret transitioning some day"

[@blacktieanimations8406]

Really would’ve loved to see the last one tbh, something I think abt a lot

[@val77701]

Yes to all of those!

[@MXGIRL87]

These are literally way better prompts

[@madeleinevandermerwe2657]

@@MXGIRL87 They should hire me🤣

[@marvinmiller2983]

Those are waaaay better prompts. Most of the prompts in this video could’ve been asked to trans people of any age like why not ask trans TEENS questions related to being trans AND a teenager?

[@justahugenerd1278]

they should've asked if they would date a trans individual, I find that in the trans community that's sometimes super controversial like you're either strictly T4T or you're repulsed by fellow trans people lol it's such a heated debate

[@rachelburton8]

genuine q: why would trans people be repulsed by other trans people?

[@honestalex5790]

@@rachelburton8 perhaps not repulsed but no attraction. For example im a str8 trans guy but I only like cis girls

[@mewesquirrel6720]

@@rachelburton8 because they are repulsed by themselves

[@rhyssocialawkwardness8170]

@@rachelburton8 maybe repulsion wasn't the best word but a lot of trans people dont want to date other trans people because of their dysphoria. I know a trans woman who wanted to date another trans woman but kept getting dysphoria

[@Queerbbby]

Lol I’ve literally never heard of another trans person being repulsed by dating other trans ppl. Like wtf??

[@lizzy8559]

Do all trans kids think the same? Yes apparently. I think we needed more controversial topics as prompts

[@heisenberg6103]

Yea I agree

[@user-sy5bj5nd6x]

Most people in cults are like that🌚

[@payt00n]

Ignore the obvious troll reply above me people, no need to flood the reply section arguing with these ignorant individuals

[@Dios7518]

@@user-sy5bj5nd6x phizer's most loyal customers cult 😂

[@AK-bf2vl]

@@user-sy5bj5nd6x tell us about your organized religion

[@thewellpreppedfather8861]

Would love to see “Single Moms vs. Divorced Dads” or “Custodial Mothers vs. Non Custodial Fathers”. This is the conversation that needs to be had. Would love to be apart of that as well!

[@dingdongfootball5331]

This would also be very interesting with the reverse genders as well, with custodial dads and non-custodial moms.

[@pemanilnoob587]

Why divorced dads and single momw and not just single dads and single moms??

[@thewellpreppedfather8861]

@@pemanilnoob587 Why not?

[@onemoreweirdo207]

@@thewellpreppedfather8861 Because "divorced" doesn't always mean that they are the ones exclusively taking care of the child and "single mom" doesn't always mean divorce.

[@thewellpreppedfather8861]

@@onemoreweirdo207 This is exactly why I said “or Custodial Mothers vs Non-Custodial Fathers”…..

[@maril8323]

also ivy is literally so gentle-hearted. i hope she's able to get hrt like she wanted

[@theowlhouseseason3213]

She's ethereal

[@mimosasseat9860]

what is hrt?

[@payt00n]

Her voice is so soothing too

[@Dios7518]

they*

[@bornsinner5944]

@@Dios7518 says she her under her name

[@krisg3984]

I think you should do this topic with an older age group

[@Random-sk6hm]

they already have I believe

[@ilsanking4334]

Yeah I kinda can’t take teenagers seriously 😭

[@whatisupdawg]

they have multiple times lol

[@whatisupdawg]

@@ilsanking4334 then why watch? it says teens in the title.....?

[@LaurArt_UK]

@@ilsanking4334 Why? These teens are intelligent human beings with developed opinions based on their experiences, talking about their experiences in an honest and open way. It's incredibly informative, even to me as an older trans person, to learn how teens are treated and affected.

[@xoluciaxo_3721]

Non-binary is sometimes such a hard concept for me to grasp, especially when they don’t dress much different from what a ‘typical’ female or male would look like. Idk as a girl myself i don’t feel hyper feminine or attached to my pronouns or what people precieve me as, so to have it be so important to them is very interesting to me. Maybe that comes across and very ignorant cis-girl of me but being transgender i can totally understand, the gender you are born into not relating to the body that you have. But with non-binary.. i can’t grasp how of why you would relate to having no gender at all

[@gracemitchell6728]

plenty of cis people don’t dress like a ‘typical’ female or male. there are masculine women and feminine men. being nonbinary doesn’t have to mean complete androgyny. at the end of the day it doesn’t matter if we understand how everyone feels, it’s more important to respect them regardless.

[@darshanmalla6737]

non binary people dont owe anyone androgyny

[@laincoubert7236]

oh totally. i just came to the conclusion that we're so brainwashed when it comes to the gender binary that we can't see past it or conceptualize what it means to be non binary. but props to those who managed to break that binary for themselves!

[@kojinexs]

Ah I totally cannot grasp non-binary too. I was always a tomb boy, I never wanted kids, and probably never will ( I'm hetero and happily married for 5 years btw) I like cars, gaming, I don't ware makeup, but it doesn't make me not a or less of a female, I am just not a girly female :D For me gender is sex, but I think that concept is natural because of my language, we do not have different words for sex and gender. But I do perfectly understand when people want to be/become another gender/sex. I just don't get the in-between stuff, aren't we all just a bit off of the perceived norm? Why the label is so important that you want to strip it and add a new one?

[@sivanabanana889]

Sameeeeee

[@shlomoz2495]

I'm happy that trans teens are having their voices amplified but these questions were terrible. Told us basically nothing new.

[@derekb4977]

It never talks about transing the gay away or Detrans

[@nikki4443]

@@derekb4977 what does that even mean

[@theemopunkisaiah]

Fr I would have liked to see more controversial prompts and just better questions in general

[@derekb4977]

@@theemopunkisaiah this is a cult

[@theemopunkisaiah]

@@derekb4977 what are you talking about dude

[@kathleenreilly828]

Would’ve loved to hear about how the families supported them (or didn’t support them) and how it effected their relationships with people who knew them before, during, after, etc

[@mandysharma949]

We talked about it a lot but they didn’t include it :((

[@kathleenreilly828]

@@mandysharma949 oh dang, that’s too bad since I think it is always really important to learn about how hard it can be to navigate relationships (especially with those who are closest to you) as you’re also navigating your own identity. Thanks for your bravery and sharing some of your story with us🥰

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

@@mandysharma949 That makes me mad that they cut the video this much. 🙄

[@ItzMalick]

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[@sarahwaters8262]

*affected*

[@safaa9654]

You should do trans vs detransitioning individuals

[@fotisthomos5939]

Vs? Like a battle to the death thing?

[@Scenicetheythem]

The majority of detranitioners still identify as transgender

[@Diangelooz]

@@fotisthomos5939 HAHAHAH

[@rawanalm4803]

Yesss

[@vipetherap2722]

That doesn't fit a narrative, once someone detransitions the community abandons them and pretends that their experience and opinion don't matter.

[@misterbwa]

Would love to see a similar one but with trans folks who are 40+

[@blksundomme6836]

they usually don't exist or they transitioned in their later life... because younger trans people usually 41%

[@fwsgsdg1977]

Lets ask the trans folk who are 40+ : 🎤🪦

[@slimesita9998]

there’s like 5 40* trans folk

[@felisenthusiast]

Trans folx dood

[@ekales_]

That wouldn't work because these nonsense was non existent in the past.

[@smb871]

i LOVE ivy!!! i’m a female but have masculine features and looks and when she said we can empathize that struck me so hard. i feel sad daily. to me i look very masculine in a female body but i don’t like it. i wish i had a socially acceptable feminine look. i deal with the thoughts daily.

[@justeliza1431]

Kinda messed up ppl think "you should educate children on the risks and allow them to go on hormones" is responsible 😐 all for trans rights but the whole point of children having guardians is the fact that they can not be held accountable for life changing decisions such as taking hormones (not talking about puberty blockers) no matter how you explain the risks you cannot take a child's perspective at face value like that, on the other hand the people on the spectrum are quite young themselves so it makes sense they'd defend their demographic, but yeah, was surprised nobody disagreed...

[@baileyhughes4265]

100%

[@Random-sk6hm]

but there are plenty of guardians who are abusive and force children to go along with their own views

[@Ray03595]

where they stood for that question made no sense. Most agreed that there are ppl that change their minds, and even some of them had a bunch of back and forths. But they're still in favor of u-18 ppl getting on hormones and undergoing irreversible changes? I'll boil that down to their young age and inexperience in life. I really hope older trans individuals would have different opinions.

[@justeliza1431]

@@Random-sk6hm that doesn't mean children are moral agents

[@talitameyer2581]

true, it is life changing

[@moldyfish1007]

‘ no one sees you as non binary because you still have feminine qualities about yourself “ dAmN bRo that hit very close to home

[@xghxoxstx]

You calling them a bro is misgendering, checkmate.

[@ncjxbshj]

no one sees her as non binary because she's a woman and nonbinary isn't a thing lol

[@alondragarcia1784]

@@xghxoxstx bro is neutral tho. Like people call everyone bro

[@Smileynathi]

@@xghxoxstx Cringe comment ngl, pretty much snowflake

[@Dios7518]

@@alondragarcia1784 bro means brother

[@marvinmiller2983]

Was wondering when Jubilee would make another spectrum video, I've missed them. Also can you do "do all children (or people) with divorced parents think the same?"

[@ncjxbshj]

That would be so interesting, I'd watch that. And a version with grown ups whose parents divorced when they were kids.

[@ItzMalick]

Yo fam I’m an upcoming KZbinr, and I make a range of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a variety of other content and I’m still working on versatility, and quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy💛💛💛‼

[@7boxes_ofluck]

OMG YES SHOUTOUT TO MY FELLOW HOMIES OF DIVORCED PARENTS

[@marvinmiller2983]

@@7boxes_ofluck Hiiii 👋

[@laurenrynn]

omg yes they need to do that

[@QueensNYgirlie1988]

I could listen to Ivy speak all day. Her voice is very calming for my chaotic mind 💗

[@thegamerunicorn697]

thats what i was thinking too, her voice is so pretty

[@wonkum]

he*

[@dcdemon5951]

@@wonkum never will be

[@HavenSaved]

They are forcing to speak like that. There is no way that is their actual voice.

[@thegamerunicorn697]

@@wonkum *she, its not that hard to respect people :)

[@Lvl1Critters]

would love to see older vs younger trans people to compare different life experiences

[@zaz7833]

Not gonna lie this video seemed very generic, they didn't really ask any interesting questions, everyone agreed with eachother which would imply the questions weren't controversial enough, nobody is really debating with eachother, and just really wasn't all that fun to watch.

[@ItzMalick]

Yo fam I’m an upcoming KZbinr, and I make a range of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a variety Of other content and I’m still working on versatility, and quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy💛💛💛‼

[@Temzy17]

Exactly. It's just 10 minutes of one huge echo chamber.

[@michace]

@Frog fr, as if trans discourse is a spectacle for others.

[@kravan5063]

@@michace swoosh

[@michace]

@@kravan5063 Are you going to add something productive to the conversation or no?

[@SomeEarthlyGood]

“I want my Prince Charming like the other cis girls” 😭😭😭 bruh i wish it was that simple

[@mypronouniselonmusk4559]

It’s honestly so gross hearing these transwomen romanticize womanhood. It really makes me realize that they do not identify with the struggle at all. It’s just a costume for them

[@ItzMalick]

Yo fam I’m an upcoming KZbinr, and I make a range of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a variety of other content and I’m still working on versatility, and quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy💛💛💛‼

[@criminokrimino5846]

cry more cishet

[@Misaki896]

@@mypronouniselonmusk4559 isn't it great tho? Men are telling women how to be women! Even our politicians and some "scientists" refuse to define what a woman is, but a dude wearing woman's clothes can!

[@amandaadeyemi5592]

@@mypronouniselonmusk4559 i totally agree!

[@kissthenforget7586]

it’s so interesting seeing Kana on this video, i used to follow him years ago and it’s so lovely to see him medically transitioned and comfortable with himself. also all of these people are so beautiful

[@sammcclain3778]

ive followed Kana since his musically days back in 2015. I still follow him on instagram and tiktok it’s crazy and i’m so proud of how far he’s came.

[@mimijae9154]

They said they get perceived as a lesbian couple but how are strangers supposed to know any different if they don’t know you’re non-binary especially since non-binary people are rare to come by in everyday life.

[@anniebodyhome1999]

i think it’s probably less-so that nonbinary people are super rare to come by, and more that the majority of cis people are just assuming that everyone is cis. like, i’m nonbinary and i interact with people all the time. i see other nonbinary people out in public a a lot. part of being nonbinary is deciding how we make ourselves legible in a binary world, and honestly most of the time it’s safer and easier to forgo being perceived accurately and decide to not challenge or correct people when they see us as cis. i don’t think they were saying ‘ahhh people see me as a part of a lesbian couple and people are terrible bc of it’ - they were saying that its frustrating being perceived in a way that feels inaccurate to your understanding of self because other people have a much narrower understanding of the broadness of gender and sexuality. i think most queer people experience this in some way, especially with cishet people. it’s frustrating noticing this all the time but never feeling like you can do anything about it, bc you’re doing all that you can do.

[@FabulousIcky]

Easy: Don't assume.

[@dollphobicc1947]

wdym Enbys are “rare” to come by do you know how many trans individuals you come across in a day ??

[@keys2467]

@@dollphobicc1947 enby = nonbinary not trans

[@ItzMalick]

Yo fam I’m an upcoming KZbinr, and I make a range of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a variety of other content and I’m still working on versatility, and quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy💛💛💛‼

[@Lancaster51]

To be 100% genuine, the person who presents as non-binary looks totally feminine to me. I don’t think people aren’t using their preferred pronouns to be spiteful it’s just an incredibly hard concept for people to wrap their head around especially since it’s a new concept to most of the world

[@makgrebba]

i agree with you on this

[@vipetherap2722]

I just want to know how someone is expected to identify a nonbinary person when looks are based on a scale of female to male, even if you're trying to sit in the middle of that you're going to present one way more than the other.

[@iwonthesitatebitch.570]

yeah very obviously a girl. they say a nonbinary doesnt owe u androgyny,, ok then they shouldnt be surprised when people can clock whether they're male or female in 0.2 milliseconds

[@mellofello]

Hearing them lament how hard their life was, as they present as extremely feminine was frustrating.

[@ItzMalick]

Yo fam I’m an upcoming KZbinr, and I make a range of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a variety of other content and I’m still working on versatility, and quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy💛💛💛‼

[@fellith4295]

They asked them virtually nothing.

[@lnbni]

Tbh I really struggle to see nonbinary as it's own gender. Whenever someone is nonbinary my head will automatically see them as either female or male, depending on what they present as most. I can't help it.

[@xxMasterCJ21xx]

Especially when they mostly present like Cis women or Cis men in their style

[@zzmoonz]

What if they look androgynous tho and you can't place on either side?

[@jessicalopez9629]

I still don't understand how you can be neither male nor female. I understand not conforming to gender roles or looks but anyone can do that if they choose.

[@aspect795]

Damn thats crazy, almost like non-binary is not a real thing

[@dragana8657]

@@jessicalopez9629 yea like if they go to the bathroom which one do they choose? Or clothes in which section do they shop?

[@xinsanedefeatx]

I'm not saying I don't think minors should necessarily have access to HRT, but as someone who consciously (and stupidly) made a lot of risky choices as a teen (copious substance abuse), I don't think it's ever possible for a teen to fully understand and assess risk. We should 100% invest in better education, but I don't think it's as simple as explaining the medical process and possible risk factors to a young developing mind when your choices can have lifelong effects

[@oaryihn5659]

luckily HRT is reversible so it's not as big of a decision as surgery

[@Criner05]

@@oaryihn5659 No it isn't. At least not 100%.

[@xinsanedefeatx]

@@oaryihn5659 I'm not absolutely certain on this, but I think how reversible it is is highly dependent on when you begin to transition From my understanding the earlier you begin to transition, the more prevalent secondary sex characteristics will develop and the harder it'll be to reverse them. Also as far as muscle mass & bone density, that will be most determined by how much test you have before/during puberty If I'm off base on any of this tho, please educate me, I don't want to spread more false info than what's already going around

[@zzmoonz]

@@Criner05 blockers literally are you just stop taking them 4head

[@oaryihn5659]

@@xinsanedefeatx i don't plan to take HRT myself, so i haven't fully researched into it, but when you stop taking hormone blockers your hormones produce normally as usual, although taking estrogen/testosterone will of course have some permanent implications usually when a trans person wants to take HRT, they are very convinced of their identity that it is unlikely (although not completely impossible) that they would regret the decision

[@Whateverable111]

wanted to repost what Baiko Jernigan said here in the comments: I suppose I would explain it like this you don't "feel" your gender unless something's wrong just as you won't "feel" yourself breathing unless your air passages are blocked or you won't "feel" yourself blinking unless you have a spot under your eyelid, you wouldn't "feel" your arm unless it was broken. Pain gives you a sense of awareness that you would have never realized or noticed otherwise, it's that extreme discomfort within your body that is dysphoria and can only be relieved when changes are made that heal it.

[@mirrorlamprug]

this is such a great explanation thanks for reposting

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Whateverable111]

@Dave Hanning okay great then you can understand how people can feel their gender is wrong

[@quincy9908]

-Do you see yourself apart of the LGBT+ movement -Is being transgender a mental illness -Are transsexuals & transgenders the same practically -Trans people inherently adhere to (Western) sex/gender roles -Crossdressing is inherently trans experience. -What is a transgender/transsexual -Should the government legally changed your upon your completed transition -Should trans people be allowed to compete with the opposite sex -Do you think the LGBT+ movement is a safe space for Trans individuals -Can you use your queerness to against/hunt people -Do you agree with the rhetoric of "If you don't agree with me, you are wrong" in regards to the LGBT+ movement I'm going to need more controversial questions like this, stop playing things safe. We don't watch these videos to get light hearted notions of what trans folk think. Also define a trans person, since you have a non-binary person here.

[@diddisdudejustdiddis5868]

these questions are a whole lot better

[@MultiOzzyProductions]

exactly, I didnt bother watching these videos after skimming the questions

[@Nooticus]

I strongly disagree. Trans people should not be this ‘controversial topic’ that keeps fuelling the culture war. They are simply just a normal part of life. End of.

[@Julian-hy7tn]

@@Nooticus no

[@Nooticus]

@@Julian-hy7tn yes

[@soulgazer11]

Ivy seems so sweet 🥺 I love her voice! And she's not on HRT?? Girl, HOW 😱

[@chrisj1306]

By faking a voice and growing out their hair

[@theowlhouseseason3213]

Yesss she's beautiful too

[@kaicapone8189]

Hrt doesnt actually change your voice! Most trans women use vocal training instead :)

[@Charlotte-yf6rc]

hhh

[@lucyl15]

@@chrisj1306 Yeha but she has a very feminine look to her naturally

[@RosalindPeters]

I wish all of these participants so much love, joy and peace in their lives. I want to hug them all! All of them must have been through so much. I hope it gets easier for all of you, sweet ones ❤️

[@katrinayakizz]

So, sweet 😀

[@Saiki_Jelly]

*Should've asked them if it's transphobic for cis people to not want to date trans people.*

[@vector_vector__]

_Obviously not_

[@mekkavelli]

that’s a buzz question for cis people to create hysteria around transgender issues. move around.

[@Saiki_Jelly]

@@mekkavelli Still want to know what they think, because I've seen so many say that if you don't date them or find them sexually attractive that you're transphobic...which is ridiculous

[@fourthpanda]

@@Saiki_Jelly "So many" huh? Funny because I've seen considerably more trans people annoyed at that debate than they are annoyed thinking it's transphobic. It's common knowledge that you can date whoever you want.

[@quincy9908]

@@fourthpanda Seems it's not common since it's a very common rhetoric seen. People go too far.

[@user-hx4le1vn2c]

I kind of wish they asked, “is it ok that some people have a hard time getting used to their gender identity since it may be new to some people?” Or something along those lines. When they said they hate getting misgendered, I don’t think they should be mad at the person but instead explain it bc most people grow up seeing feminine traits = female and vice versa. It’s not automatic for some people to ask first

[@gracemitchell6728]

i agree that people should understand that assumptions aren’t ill-intentions; however, in situations like mandy’s they are introducing themselves as nonbinary. if someone tells you how they identify then you’re no longer “assuming”, you’re simply going against the information you’ve been provided.

[@SlothDaan]

In Mandy's case this was reversed. They did well the first two times, after that they didn't try. I can imagine the nonchalance and not trying to be the more hurtfull part than the actually misgendering. (But I'm not trans so I don't really know, I'm assuming this..)

[@gracemitchell6728]

@@SlothDaan it can get frustrating to constantly be correcting people. for the majority, being accidentally misgendered is more uncomfortable than upsetting, but it’s also very easy to tell when someone puts absolutely no effort towards trying.

[@khadizabhuiyan.random2758]

I’ll say that this video did’nt go that deep into everything, I’m sure they understand.

[@devin8967]

as a trans teen, it sucks and makes me angry but i have no anger or malice towards the people who do it. i understand the struggle of traits associated with gender and i admittedly have messed up pronouns myself lol. especially if they don't know in the first place then it's no big deal even though it stings and makes me sad, i just suck it up. getting used to the whole trans thing when you're cis is a hard process and i appreciate those who try more than i can say, because they are sadly a minority.

[@tolerablevegan]

What’s crazy to me about these prompts are, as a trans adult who was a prepubescent trans child/teen, I would’ve totally agreed w these kids. As an adult however and with more knowledge on hormones and the natures of the human body, I actually don’t agree with most of what of they are saying

[@sad-7477]

Yeah it’s almost like when ur a kid you think you know yourself 100% but then grow up and realize no, I don’t, now I can’t have kids oh no!

[@daniels752]

I wonder how it is possible to be transgender and non-binary at the same time, doesn't transgender either mean that you are female anatomically and identify as male or that you are male anatomically and identify as female? Because then it seems to me that you still would be one of just two genders: male or female Not trying to be rude by the way, I'm just curious

[@luckavfx]

i was thinking the exact same thing- trans is opposite not opposed to

[@kanilikescats]

transgender just means not identifying as the gender you were assigned at birth which includes non binary

[@Epicloser10391]

If you were assigned male or female at birth, and then identify and live as NB you have still transitioned to another gender.

[@HostileTakeover555]

It’s a great point and probably indicates a person who needs serious counseling instead of trying to force everyone else into their nonsensical “logic”

[@glamam3914]

Personally non binary doesn’t make sense to me and I honestly think people are just getting personality confused with gender but from what I understand Non binary is when you don’t identify as either gender. You don’t feel like you’re female or male. You’re stuck in this grey area. So if you’re born female and don’t feel female but also don’t feel male you transition into non binary/transition into that grey area.

[@plaiqnum]

makes zero sense to let a child make an adult decision as a child

[@braidenbolling7118]

I was looking for this comment

[@plaiqnum]

@@braidenbolling7118 there were so many contradictory things said in this video makes me question if they hear themselves half of the time

[@braidenbolling7118]

@@plaiqnum Fr, most of them say that under age kids should be able to decide whether they get surgery or not, then most of them also agree that they have came out more than once. Image being trans for a few months and getting surgery, only to realize you were just gay a year later. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

[@_______5345]

Hrt yes. Surgery, no surgeon would

[@xwrtk]

@@braidenbolling7118 They still have to see a therapist either way. Some babies are already getting altering surgeries at birth without their permission. These situations do add to the trans community.

[@snowy3896]

Mandy is definitely one of those chronically Twitter people

[@aishahmohammed9339]

how

[@annabellefrancescaa]

not at all

[@epoch2844]

ur chronically on twitter aren’t you?

[@Neo.Jordon]

She cray

[@keyboarddancers7751]

I think she's quite pretty.

[@Jasmine-fu7qr]

The last few moments where they all talked with eachother made me tear up because it seemed like the most genuine after show conversation I've ever seen on jubilee spectrum.

[@saikikusuo3012]

🤦‍♀️Its just so hilarious how nearly all of them agreed that they have questioned their sexuality more than one time at some point and yet they still think KIDS should be allowed to do medical transitioning 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@zacherylewis3726]

Exactly! I’ve seen so many videos of adults wishing they never done it!! Cause they are kids!!!

[@iwonthesitatebitch.570]

not sure why they view gender as something innate and static like,, no we are dynamic beings who change constantly and there's nothing wrong w that. there is something wrong with doing permanent "solutions" for feelings that will change as they grow and develop as people

[@catherine5526]

exactlyyyyy

[@maynardewm]

There was a lot of non-binary people in this video, which is why you see that. Binary trans people who know their gender identity from a very young age don’t flip flop like this. They don’t confuse their sexuality with their gender identity.

[@ncjxbshj]

Weird they had to "question" their gender identity at all considering how the majority of trans activists claim children as young as 4 can know they're trans lol

[@johngiorgas9997]

That body dysphoria empathy really hit when they talked about their gender dysphoria

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Thunderrr_]

I think teens should be allowed to go through non permanent treatment/reversible, and I think permanent treatment should be reserved for when they turn 18 and beyond.

[@wizardingworld7572]

I think 16+ would make sense or permenant as long as they have an evaluation to make absolutely sure

[@wizardingworld7572]

for permanent*

[@Grokford]

I understand the desire for transitioning younger, but 18 is still so young, you have so much time.

[@dr.sigmundfreud3030]

If I haven't gotten testosterone treatment at 16, I wouldn't have made it until 18.

[@Dorovich21]

@@Grokford a lot of trans people, especially like teens, end up depressed because of the gender dysphoria that they get due to not being able to transition. We gotta have understanding for that. As a young transguy myself, I’ve lost the majority of my childhood to being stuck as someone I’m not, which isn’t really fun. It doesn’t matter if I’ll get to transition in the future when I’m like 20-30 if I’m still really sad now because I’m not allowed to. If doctors and psychiatrists and stuff approve of it, and they fully understand what they’re doing, a trans person under 18 should definitely be allowed to transition

[@taylorwright506]

LMAO this is gonna cause unnecessary debates in the comments i can feel it.

[@HostileTakeover555]

Thinking that debating and discussion is “unnecessary” is a dangerous mindset

[@thomash7294]

That’s a very subjective statement

[@triple_gem_shining]

Yea debate is not unnecessary. It's very necessary. Welcome to the real world, where not everyone agrees with you

[@Epicloser10391]

@@HostileTakeover555 🤓

[@andrewsanger3489]

Lmao most likely

[@miasimone9356]

i think if you guys did like a part 2 of older spectrum videos with a new group of people, different questions, or a deeper dive or like an actual debate would be interesting. or like videos on older topics with more controversial questions

[@yougotknockedtfout]

you’re so pretty

[@Latte23749]

Personally I don't think teens should be allowed to transition. Cuz even trans adults end up detransitioning. Also comprehensive studies on how the hormones will affect children at that age in the long run aren't done yet.

[@NoName-1239]

Yup. Being trans has just become a trend nowadays to become more accepted in this “woke” era. If you do want to transition you should at least be an adult to be legally able to do that. Children can’t legally consent for a reason.

[@chickpea734]

a very small percentage of people detransition. and even then its usually due to loved ones being unsupportive rather than them changing their minds.

[@evelynh.4088]

@@chickpea734 100%, as far as I’m aware only a handful of people detransitioned be they felt otherwise. From what I see it seems to just be a lack of support or unsafe environments that causes people to detransition. There’s probably a better chance of being struck by lightning than detransitioning because you regret it.

[@payt00n]

I think changing pronouns (As in, he/him, they/them, she/her and not the tree/treeself nonsense) should be allowed but hormones and surgery could wait til their 18

[@justignorethis4168]

I agree there is already studies on how puberty blockers and getting on hormones will affect the child to the point of sterilization

[@ericbilly]

i feel bad for Mandy. they seem almost desperate for external validation and dont have a strong sense of self. everyone else was pretty dope imo

[@chrizmo__1879]

what is them twitter?

[@faizahmohammedaruwa]

I wish these children nothing but peace love and happiness for the rest of their lives 💕

[@LegendaryCS4]

Yes thank you for commenting with positivity. It's so sad to see such hurtful things people will say online. Comments like these make me feel more hopeful!

[@soop3r872]

@@LegendaryCS4 all I see are people being honest in the comments I see not issue

[@duskxdawn347]

@@soop3r872 Then you're looking at the wrong ones

[@Almond.stars666]

@@soop3r872 I don’t see how misgendering and be transphobic is seen as “honest”. Well it’s honest discrimination😂

[@soldierboy8796]

Well, unfortunately for people with their condition, there isn’t much of that awaiting them.

[@victoriapineda4222]

Hey I think the pronouns on Ginny and Bry were messed up. The irony 🥹🥲 but it's towards the middle

[@ikeeditz2012]

No way!!😭😭😭🤣

[@crowsoto9612]

BRUH WHAT FR should I laugh or cry

[@mygreenshoes]

timestamp?

[@lunab3118]

Bry 6:10 he/him Bry 10:00 they/them. Maybe the use all of the pronouns

[@user-fh5oe3mx3d]

They could use both. I noticed too, sucks if it was a mistake

[@whosebuilderandmakerisgod]

Bry standing on “agree” for should kids medically transition yet saying “I’ve gone back and forth between they/them and he/him since I was thirteen” is concerning

[@0w0v0id]

Pronouns don't always necessarily have to relate to gender identity, and not every trans person has the same experience.

[@r33th]

Exactly. They all seem very confused about what they feel. Kids should not be able to medically transition, it can ruin their life

[@mimiscrimes9020]

Cis people could also use they/them pronouns

[@lost.lilium]

Ivy has such a beautiful voice

[@deathstalker8851]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lost.lilium]

@@deathstalker8851 ?

[@zahiin]

agreed, its so graceful!

[@garlic_muncher]

fr

[@alo2503]

mandy is very much a pick me let’s be real… like cmon

[@alo2503]

i saw 5 trans people and 1 person just confused and who craves attention tbh. those other kids actually probably experience gender dysphoria while mandy sounds like an exhausting friend to be around

[@CaptainOfTheCrapShak]

facts, she 100% can not relate with the rest of the people in the video but tries to anyway

[@saiyanobe23g6]

Not trying to be rude but is Mandy biologically a guy or a girl?

[@defnotlydiah]

@@saiyanobe23g6Idk, but just so you know in the future a lot of trans people don't like that question

[@matthew_ad]

@@defnotlydiah she's allowed to ask that question, it's a pretty reasonable one to want to know.

[@kaichase5747]

I love kana I got too meet him and he watched me get my tattoo!!❤️❤️❤️ literally one of the sweetest people I’ve met

[@BoardroomBuddha]

"As long as kids understand the long-term risks of transitioning, I think they should be allowed to medically transition." Kids cannot consent to - let alone understand - long-term risks. They think 5 years is "long term".

[@azayzelderegis1655]

I agree. Children cannot consent. And the vast majority of trans youth can't even get surgery or hormones until they're 18 anyway because their parents wouldn't approve of it. That doesn't make their parents transphobic, that just means they don't want to be the ones to make such a huge decision for their child. The decision to transition is such an important and individual decision to make, not a decision that your parents should make for you.

[@Cheeseburger681]

exactly what i was thinking!

[@laurabenevides7061]

I think it'll depend on the maturity of the kid, how well can they understand. I don't think we should stablish an age. 18 just means they can do it despite what their parents think. I think it should be allowed, which doesn't mean they can do it without the proper financial and medical support. It should be possible, if they are deemed mature enough to understand and they know enough about the process

[@laurabenevides7061]

To know when they are mature enough or ar certain or ready, i believe should be studied and discussed especially among trana people that did the transition and don't regret it. I'm not trans, so i have no way of knowing when it'd be ok to do it. I can be proven wrong, but i believe kid should have a say and be taken seriously

[@azayzelderegis1655]

@@laurabenevides7061 Kids can still be taken seriously while being made to wait until they turn 18. There are many things you can do to transition without the surgery, leading up to when you turn 18. In fact, many people don't ever get the surgery and they are very happy with their transition. There are parents out there who will coerce their child into being the opposite sex, because they always wanted a girl/boy, not what their child was born as. You can deny that this happens all you want, but it does indeed happen. Even if the cases are slim, well, so are the cases of trans youth getting the surgery. That's why I don't think the parents should have any say in such a thing. The child needs to have the final say, and in this country the only way to ensure that is to make them wait until they're 18 when they can sign off on their own surgeries and treatments. That's any child, for any surgery. Not just trans youth.

[@itook75benadryls]

Mandy is litteraly just a woman who doesnt feel special enough

[@lmaonade.]

trying to identify as something that was literally made up lmfao. i don't like how it's forced down everyone's throat as well.

[@golbinnom]

she just wants to be quirky and different and not like the other girls

[@Iroh12345]

Ngl, it made me chuckle when Jules described the experience of cis people as ''getting ready in the morning and looking at yourself and having the absence of distress''. I WISH girl, I WISH xD

[@funkunko]

she meant when it comes to gender… obviously

[@Night-Shade.]

She doesn't mean distress in general. Many ppl have financial, personal, occupational, relationship distress, but having distress from gender dysphoria is a whole different world which severely effects your mental health.

[@lnbni]

@@Night-Shade. Don't think op meant distress in general either, rather extreme self esteem issues.

[@mypronouniselonmusk4559]

Yes! These trans women really do think it’s easy being a woman. Clearly they have no idea what we go through, and that is why we deserve our own spaces because ultimately we are female and suffer because of it

[@anteerat]

u missing the point and being ignorant

[@kmqttz_]

I've been waiting for this one

[@tile983]

@@abishekdas73 What?

[@tile983]

@@abishekdas73 Wdym by gross fantasy?

[@han9488]

@@abishekdas73 no, because it’s a relevant topic since there’s a lot of trans rights that are being debated in parliament rn

[@kmqttz_]

@@abishekdas73 what are you talking about "gross fantasy"? I'm a trans teen myself, I like to see the ideologies of others within the community I partake in.

[@tile983]

@@abishekdas73 But what you first commented isn’t even relevant to what Mariela said i don’t even understand

[@Idk-je2ql]

As agender growing up I never had problems with feeling disphoric but I was pretty rebelious I was "Not acting like a girl" and only doing "feminine" stuff when I felt like it as I'm typing I became a bit uncomfortable describing being "feminine" I feel a lot better when I present more on masculine side but calling myself a boy felt wrong And also I had SO MUCH JOY trolling people on omegle about my gender LIKE OMG I would pretend to be a sentient lightbulb as a kid and was in such a giddy mood At first I thought nothing of it but the more I think about it the more it seems like I was expressing my identity without knowing what it was And I always got weirded out by my peers when they tried to act as girly as possible And I started to feel somewhat uncomfortable when I discovered that I'm not cis but also sense joy in it

[@CCubes88]

I understand you're figuring yourself out but also don't let society's hatred of femininity influence you into thinking femininity is something to be ashamed of

[@Idk-je2ql]

@@CCubes88 I'm not ashamed but I do understand your concern I just like being me I guess

[@BBBros87]

Great episode! But can you PLEEAAAAAASE get a mic for the person asking questions?

[@maril8323]

big fan of kana and how he spoke. just so composed

[@anthonyleonofficial]

He's a fantastic guy! I've seen him grow as a mutual on tiktok and insta, and he's incredibly sweet and smart.

[@Dios7518]

They*

[@anthonyleonofficial]

@@Dios7518 Kana’s pronouns on his Instagram are he/him. 😊

[@anthonyleonofficial]

@@Dios7518 I believe the video tended to mess up peoples pronouns a couple times as well, judging from the other comments, but it’s okay! I bet it was all on accident. :)

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Jeremy-wp4yh]

Why won't trans people date each other. That's the answer I wanna know. Trans people will get angry at cis people and call its transphobia, but never do they discuss dating within their OWN community.

[@kamithan4357]

MANY trans people date eachother lmfao. Lots of us are t4t

[@Jeremy-wp4yh]

@@duskxdawn347 I don't know why people say it's "made up". That's a westernized idea of gender. When you travel the world you will see the same roles taking place with no outside influence.

[@oaryihn5659]

we discuss dating each other a lot, there's even a term for it (t4t), some of us only date other trans people because we feel safer that way

[@safaa9654]

Easy, they know other trans people arent the real deal either lol

[@pomsky8075]

Personally, I consider my gender dysphoria as a mental disorder and sometimes my dysphoria can bounce off of others discomfort as well, then just generally being attracted to strictly biological women (unless I just really like someone male to female). Then if others know I'm T4T then im outed. I'm not someone who wants that really but its different for everybody.

[@Huh9631]

I’m an enby teen, with the transitioning as a minor I would go to disagree because I’ve seen so many times others trans teens changing their genders a few times a month, im not saying that’s wrong in any way just if you don’t even clearly know who you are then it’s rly risky doing anything medical you may regret, but that’s just my opinion

[@massetozacarias5693]

Yeah, I can't even get a vasectomy unless if I'm at least 21 in my clinic and been undergoing a lot of counselling... Cross sex hormones literally makes you sterile, I think a lot of therapy must go first

[@chrissy9711]

such an eyeopening video... respects yall r strong beautiful individuals

[@dianakhumalo6905]

I'm curious to know how trans people feel about 18+ fully transitioned trans people competing professionally in sports against cisgendered people (specifically m2f) and i was hoping that would be a question. I have been questioning my position on that subject recently and i want to know if i am being bigoted/transphobic for my perspective on the issue (at the moment i think it gives trans women an unfair advantage over cisgender women, biologically speaking). If there are any trans people who see this comment i hope you are willing to share your opinion, I'm asking out of genuine curiousity not from a place of negativity (i am a cisgender female) i hope no one is offended by my comment, i would just like to see things from another perspective.

[@zzmoonz]

Depends when they transitioned, how long, and what sport. I.e. if you're m2f after puberty for serval years in mma for instance you have a major disadvantage as you have heavier bones and less capacity to gain muscle in a weightclass sport so literally every opponent will have more muscle capacity and production than you Its really really specific

[@martosty]

Not a trans person, but I have the same thought, even your etnical background can give you advantages in sport (potential muscle mass, ratio,..) and I don't draw a line there because the advantage is noticable but isn't that determined. Hormonal differences tho... Increases physical abilities so much more, it all depends on when a person transitions, but if it's after puberty certain bone ratio and muscle mass is already made, testosterone already had a big impact and will act as if the person took dope, so yes it is unfair from a scientific perspective, it just sounds rude, but evaluation through hormone levels would be more fair than 'seggs assigned at birth'

[@soop3r872]

It’s unfair they need their own category that’s what i think personally 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@alexandraloboda9991]

I feel like it also heavily depends on sport. Darts, pool, archery? sure. Cant say the same about basketball and other sports where physical strength is more crucial

[@Random-sk6hm]

same

[@AyoKillaCam]

This whole conversation is mind blowing to me.

[@theonlyryn369]

Everyone in this video is amazing, everyone seems so aligned and understanding. I admire a lot of people, but the ppl in this video are just top tier. No one was hateful or arrogant, I wish all of y’all the best 🫶🏽🫶🏽

[@petertrueteller8043]

Your simping is wierd.

[@theonlyryn369]

@@petertrueteller8043 First of all, no one told you to read my comment. Let alone reply to it, second you are LITERALLY proving my point. People tend to be hateful for NO reason and you’re showing that. I’m not simping, and even if I was would you have such a problem with it if everyone in the video was straight/ cis??

[@allyfawley]

Hey! Jubilee I watch all of your videos. so would like to recommend that the person asking the question use a microphone. Sometimes if i’m not looking at the screen I cannot hear the prompt/question!

[@doctorisjoe]

Comment section is an utter mess, I love it 💀

[@rohsamah7733]

Same Kekdkjfhfuiwis

[@ItzMalick]

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[@iris-zz2jr]

@@ItzMalick STOP

[@Lancaster51]

I want Chiropractors vs. Spine Surgeons Chiros believe a lot of alternative/pseudoscientific things and it would be interesting

[@kendallsharpe3441]

ivy has such a calming aura she’s so cute

[@jadehollow5481]

I love Ivy her voice is so pretty!!! She seems like such I nice person and I’d love to be her friend.

[@nakuro2686]

As a parent. I'd like to know why it's so important to be identified if the object is to not be defined.

[@josecarlosxyz]

Its something weird you know

[@duskxdawn347]

What?

[@Kita-xs7lp]

Some people find comfort and community within labels. Some prefer not to be defined as they find it limiting of the complex nature of being human. Both are okay and it just depends on the person

[@AS-rr9km]

Ya….

[@rhyssocialawkwardness8170]

labels usually help to explain how we feel in much simpler terms, I could probably write an essay on the nuances of my own gender.

[@annissa485]

Big thank u for this video. Everyone shared great thoughts and views.

[@ItzMalick]

Yo fam I’m an upcoming KZbinr, and I make a range of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a variety Of other content and I’m still working on versatility, and quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy💛💛💛‼

[@BiggestMessiFan12334]

Everyone in this video shared delusion

[@stulvus]

@@BiggestMessiFan12334 🤡

[@BiggestMessiFan12334]

@@stulvus 🧔🏻‍♀️ lol like imagine looking like that. I can’t tell the difference between you people. Your guys pronouns do fit the it/its, cause you guys look like weird aliens

[@Kennygee517]

My heart goes to the beautiful people in this video and the trans folk watching this. You are valid and you are wonderfully made, inside and out.

[@AJ-lm5dl]

If they're so wonderfully made, then why are they mutilating themselves to look like the opposite sex?

[@sam15342]

I would really love to see "Do all intersex people think the same"❤. I just feel like this is not talked about as much and a lot of times completely ignored. Would be nice to see intersex people share their perspective.

[@bendemare5270]

I agree 💛💜

[@simonamaseva5819]

Mandy needs to go in her cocoon and figure herself out. If you are non-binary, that’s you but if you’re feminine presenting you can’t expect ppl to read your mind and they don’t have to. Sorry you act/talk/look like a girl I’m probably gonna “misgender” you unintentionally. If I have to constantly worry about that when talking to you, I just won’t talk to you. Like if we’re at a store and I’m in front of them but realized I had to grab something else I’d say “she can go first, I’m still looking” how am I supposed to know what’s going on In your head? Poor you. If your biggest struggle is being called a she/he instead of they.. I’m sorry but your problems are unimportant to me.

[@gtristecc]

AMEN!

[@stopminormutilation]

Before Adulthood? No. Absolutely not

[@JeremyLeeIsARapist2002]

cope seethe mald

[@stickman8459]

Agreed, way too early and from my own personal experience it only leads to one thing

[@lynnhettrick7588]

The medical community is coming to realize that when trans youth can start puberty around the same time as their cis peers, then they are happier and experience much less dysphoria. Not going through the wrong puberty is so important.

[@hanscapon222]

Though to transition young you should go through a lot of therapy that won’t just automatically assume you’re trans from the get go. Most detransitioners transitioned as teenagers and wish that it was harder for them to medically transition or someone doubted them.

[@cmxoxoxox]

What a beautiful and insightful video 🫶🏼

[@NeroMai]

"I want to have my moment where I can get my own prince charming and have a normal relationship like the rest of these cis girls" Who's gonna tell her we don't get "prince charmings" and "normal relationships" either? 😶

[@ncjxbshj]

the internalized homophobia and idealization of female experience is wild with this one.

[@macintoshhjball4686]

I think she knows but she’s trying to make a point. How some trans ppl aren’t sought out or in healthy relationships because they trans. Like how some ppl get really aggressive finding out their (potential) so is trans.

[@uchennanwogu2142]

@@ewoma8234 that person is insane

[@Random-sk6hm]

@@ncjxbshj I dont think thats internalised homophobia lmao. dont throw that phrase around

[@EDeeDeeS]

A lot of teen girls have this fantasy, I most certainly did. It's not uncommon. But also she probably sees her cis girl peers having happy open relationships and wants that

[@frlifey154]

As soon as I saw the notification I had to check this video out 💀

[@Thornhill47]

Fax the title took me out bruh

[@accretionescapee]

Ikr

[@ishowedpoohkkkelly7539]

Ong

[@nvm4086]

@@Thornhill47 why? Its not strange

[@Random-sk6hm]

fr so interesting in our current climate

[@souplover6969]

I really think for these types of episodes, people should somehow be able to choose their position without seeing where the others go. I feel like conformity bias is huuuge in these episodes.

[@noisi747]

I guess Mandy thinks they're the most important person in the world. Teachers may not remember you at all and you expect them to remember your pronouns when you look just like a tomboy. I mean, if my friend was non-binary and wanted me to use they/they pronouns then sure I will try to remember that, but if it's just a random person I barely know... welp, honestly I may even forget your name let alone pronouns LOL.

[@inktob]

i get that, but if you go by they them, it gets pretty tiring to keep being misgendered..

[@MichaelColombo]

@@inktob But if you very clearly present as female, which Mandy does, it can be understandable that confusion would come up more often.

[@golbinnom]

she's mad people on the street just sees her as a random teen girl...which is what she looks like

[@GodDamnPreacher]

Exactly 💯

[@Em-un8gw]

I don’t know if Gibby changes his/ their pronouns but sometimes it says “they/them” and sometimes it is “he/him”

[@ItzMalick]

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[@saltchipper-7147]

I’m assuming they go by he/they

[@cloroxbleachg5377]

I don’t think Mandy should have been included in this

[@ItzMalick]

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[@butters3472]

These people really understand each other well! This was a great video :)

[@Arcticninja123]

but they dont understand themselves

[@jasminvavrecka9294]

Thats because they follow the same ideology.

[@butters3472]

i just realized how much i sound like a bot in this comment lmao

[@JW-lr8sd]

It seems odd that Mandy goes to one of the most liberal colleges at Berkley and also seems to have the most issues with others, as a they/them. Something about their wording w/ every introduction, "I go by they/them, please respect my pronouns because if you don't then this isn't a safe space for me" is really off-putting, even to people who would respect Mandy if they weren't so adversarial.

[@chihiroogino7464]

Yeah. On the last question they were asked if life would be easier if they weren't trans, and Mandy was like "no because I'm a non white woman". Tbh, that made me think Mandy will always find a reason to be a victim. Always find a reason to be offended.

[@epoch2844]

why is it off-putting? their just stating their pronouns, sure it comes off as strong but it’s to the point. no one would want to talk to someone who doesnt use the correct pronouns.

[@jameshiggis4405]

You don’t let kids smoke or drink before 21, but letting them permanently alter their body as kids? Real smart

[@jasondavis2995]

But there are people that let their children do those things. So......

[@heybitsme]

Yeah before they can even vote too?

[@anteerat]

hrt blockers dont permanently alter anything.

[@ncjxbshj]

@@anteerat false. they can give you osteoporosis, mess up your height permanently, mess up your hormones (dug) etc. Your body isn't build-a-bear. Puberty happens when it does the way it does for a reason.

[@linky.salsaedo]

at the very least, trans youth should have access to resources such as gender therapy and puberty blockers (which aren’t permanent and can be stopped if the child figures out it isn’t for them)

[@raye769]

I feel like ivy was born out of a flower garden or something, she's so pretty I love her vibe so much.

[@allisonb7467]

I loved this ❤️ But just reminded me how much people (younger people specifically) use the word "like" as a filler word super frequently

[@2ladygagajustdance]

I think I would make an excellent candidate for a future episode for a different perspective 😊

[@hayleeguzman1535]

I feel like they could've chosen better questions, a lot of these I feel like everyone was pretty one sided on. A lot of the ppl they chose seem pretty far into their journeys which is great! I just wish we could've seen ppl in different stages of their journey. Plus, I feel like they referred to 'cis' as 'cisgender and straight.' when answering these questions.

[@djillusii7333]

The thing about transitioning at a young age is that you are still figuring yourself out, your brain isn't fully developed, and that leads to making decisions that they regret once they get older. Its a huge risk because it is permanent for life as far as taking hrt goes, and i know it'd be better to take hrt before puberty for future appearance, but I don't think that is justification.

[@kade9625]

as most of them said, being able to process and see what you're going through is an important part of it. it should never be taken lightly by trans people what HRT does to their bodies. for example, trans men get increased risk of strokes and baldness could start at just as low as 12 months of taking HRT.

[@cum8604]

@@kade9625testosterone just makes you have the exact same risks of baldness & strokes as a cis male would.

[@lynnhettrick7588]

Transitioning before puberty is just clothes, hair, and name/pronouns. No one medically transitions before puberty, only socially. They are are all changeable. They can explore and figure out what feels best. Then there are blockers (at the time of puberty), which pause puberty and give young teens a chance to see if this is the best path for them. There is also a team of doctors who are helping guide parents and youth along the way. You have to remember that natal puberty is also "permanent for life." Once a person's hips or shoulders have widened, there isn't a surgery to fix it. Once a person's voice has dropped, it's extremely difficult to change it. Doctors *will not* prescribe HRT before Tanner Stage 2 (puberty stages). Then if HRT is introduced, they start at a low dose, to mimic a cis puberty. They can stop without much permanent change if it's not for them. It takes time for the voice to drop or breasts to grow. Most of the trans youth who I know who did change their mind were like Bry. Either they transitioned to non-binary and then changed to the more binary (AFAB) male or (AMAB) female. Or they transitioned to the opposite gender, but then changed to non-binary. Some come out as non-binary first, just to see if their family rejects them or not.

[@morefuckedupandmoreevilwizard]

I agree and I wish more people would talk about other methods of socially transitioning in regards to kids. Voice training, targeted muscle building, tailored fashion, etc. are all great, reversible (besides cost ig) ways to aid in transition that I never see people mention in regards to kids. We need better trans healthcare for kids to make it all known and accessible!!

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@cum8604 yeah and for a female that is insanely transformative changes....

[@vudhanthineeraja1906]

I just don't get how you support the prompt of "allowing medical transition before adulthood", when you've come out more than once?? What if you realize you are not it anymore and wish to go back and in this case there's no going back?? Also I don't get it when ya'll say I'm a woman but fail to define what exactly "a woman" is. Honestly, with all this said, I'd love to see adult trans people participate in this prompt rather than teenagers.

[@mme.veronica735]

Going back would mean stopping hormones, and in the worst cases, needing one surgery. But did you know only 1% of people stop transitioning and of that 1% less than 10% do so because they realised they weren't trans?

[@stulvus]

A woman is someone who identifies as a woman, easy. Also I don't get how transitioning is apparently such a big deal to ya'll but have no problem with someone having a nosejob which they might regret later? If someone wants to transition that's their own thing, why would you care about that? I also see no problem in asking teens these questions, they seem rather educated.

[@akulakaboom]

@@stulvus 🤡🤡🤡

[@stulvus]

@@akulakaboom I didn't want your face reveal, but thanks

[@alexiamenjivar4785]

thank you this is beautiful and i’m so happy u guys gave us a plat form to talk ab this

[@ItzMalick]

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[@finh5731]

These comments are really disappointing. It just goes to show how easy it is to spread misinformation about trans people; it's such a foreign concept to most that they'll readily believe any lies non-trans people will perpetuate, and nobody even asks us. I did like this video, though. (I think maybe people forget that teenagers aren't always able to easily communicate their thoughts, and that's why they think the replies aren't genuine.)

[@ncjxbshj]

Nah, mate. You wish it was true, but for many of us actively listening to trans people and researching gender dysphoria was what lead us to be less and less accepting of the mainstream trans ideology.

[@finh5731]

@@ncjxbshj I mean this in the politest way possible, but as a trans person I'm not gonna listen to someone who isn't talk about how informed they are about people like me, and why we're wrong about ourselves. I understand why you don't understand it; truly, I don't see why you would, but it's not my problem if you decide that it's appropriate to form opinions on people who are different based on what you previously already thought was normal.

[@ncjxbshj]

@@finh5731 TL;DR we listen to YOU. But just bc we listen doesn't mean we have to agree. That's just how the world works.

[@shadow14805]

@@ncjxbshj listening is different to conversing. You can pick and choose who you listen to, and you don't have to talk with the people in question. Actually conversing and interacting with trans people is an entirely different matter. Just because you choose to only listen to the extremists, without actually knowing a single trans person your friends with and who you can speak to, does not mean you're opinions are unbiased. I've never met a transphobe who personally knew of a trans person or had any sort of friendship with one. Many stay in bubbles online with other transphobic people, and hardly ever reach out to have conversations with trans people. All the trans people I know will often try to converse with transphobic people, but are often turned down or are simply ignored and insulted. Transphobes don't seem that interested in actually conversing, no matter how much they may claim to "listen".

[@finh5731]

@@ncjxbshj Nah, what I mean is that people misinterpret a lot of the things trans people say, because they don't really understand. (Which is fine, I get it.) the problem arises when they refuse to correct those misinterpretations.

[@ianmeadows6941]

Do a middle ground episode with Transgenders & Detranstioners. I think it would be interesting to have the two groups hash things out.

[@bendemare5270]

Those two group don't oppose, Trans People do detransition from multiple reason, they still remain trans. Them detransitioning is not a call to have their transness erased. Some trans people don't transition. It's really personal. All trans people are worthy whatever their relationship towards transitioning is . Now, if their are cis detransitioners, it's ok too.

[@dallasowen2829]

I hope ivy is able to on hrt. She just seems so kind even if she is shy. She just seems like a kind and gentle spirit and someone I would love to have a conversation with.

[@EngLhag]

Kana has such a nice vibe. Great guy. Awesome hair style also.

[@aspiretoinspire9679]

2:40 but not everyone could afford medical transition, as I am. and the transition isn't an easy process 😶😶😶

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Shtuhtefup]

Mandy could’ve read the room a bit better as someone who isnt visibly trans-presenting

[@RayFlemming7080]

What did they do wrong?? 💀

[@akazienoel2009]

What did they do?

[@largerfiend]

​@@RayFlemming7080 ​ @A k a z i e n o e l They are clearly cis female presenting (or at least put no effort into looking non-binary) and to drone on and on about their turmoil's makes them look silly and minimizes the real struggles the other people in the room went/are going through. This is the equivalent of telling a rich friend that your parents kicked you out at 18 with no support and your rich friend telling you about how hard it was that their parents only payed their rent and car payments and they had to buy their own food. Mandy just sees like they want to be a victim like stop lol

[@michace]

Just say that you don’t understand and move on.

[@largerfiend]

@@michace What part of this do you think I'm confused about? I couldn't live with myself If I had that mentality, how superficial.

[@AL1STER_]

As I young trans dude, I really enjoyed watching this video and agree with basically everything in this video as well.

[@eliduran902]

🫠 I feel that on so many levels 😪 Knowing others don’t see you the same as you see yourself. And being misgendered when not present/in front of you cause people who have known you for months and months still have mess ups 🙃

[@nazgulstew]

cant really blame them if you present so feminine

[@nazgulstew]

@Frog yeah if they’re purposely being an arse but i mean first impressions