Do Christians have to obey the Old Testament Laws?

“Do all Old Testament commands apply today? How do we choose which commands in the Law to obey and which ones to disregard?"
Dr. Thomas Schreiner answers in Honest Answers | Episode 49
Watch more episodes of Honest Answers here:
• Video
To find out the answer to next week's question, don't forget to SUBSCRIBE:
www.youtube.com...
Ask any questions about theology, ministry, or life; and have them answered honestly by Southern Seminary professors.
Submit your questions by:
Email: [e-mail]
Twitter: @askHonestAns
or post them in the comments below
To learn more about studying with a Southern Seminary Professor, go to www.sbts.edu

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Galatians 2-----16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

@Truth Hurts we are supposed to go by what the word of God actually says. Not by what we want it to say. First of all, he is not only referring to circumcision. Notice in verse 16 he says "by the works of the law." As in plural. He is referring to the law as a whole and if Gods law never changes then #1 why are you not still sacrificing bulls and goats on an altar? Where is your tabernacle? If Gods law never changes, then why aren't you burning down the cities of unbelievers and killing them?

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

@Truth Hurts why? Because Gods law DOES change as we are in a better, more perfect covenant built on better promises. The law of Moses was specifically for the nation of Israel which is why you see the laws regarding war and how to judge in court. How to grow their crops and settle disputes and dress. Things that pertain to morality, such as not committing adultery, still apply because Christ and the apostles taught against it. God knows what he's doing and I will take his words over yours.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

@Truth Hurts "we don't have sacrifices anymore because there's a change in covenant." Yes and that changed the law didn't it? Thank you for proving my point.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

@Truth Hurts you just told me the commandments never change and guess what? They changed. 613 commandments in the old testament. If you are an OT law person then you have to keep ALL the law or you are a lawbreaker. That's the way OT law works. If you decide you want to try to follow God by the letter of the law, you must keep it all.

[@kennycouch6135]

@@IAMhassentyou-h5w James 2:10 I believe is what you are quoting. --- For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

2 Corinthians 3:9---- If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness!

[@charlescarter4587]

What is righteousness? can someone tell me how to be righteousness?

[@charlescarter4587]

@abcdefg that is not what the scriptures say (psalms 119;16I will find my delight in your regulations. I will not forget your word.) (psalms 119;43-44Don’t take away completely my power to speak the truth; for I put my hope in your rulings; 44 and I will keep your Torah always, forever and ever.119;62At midnight I rise to give you thanks because of your righteous rulings. psamls 119;160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.) i am not sure you will understand this . people dont understand Yahweh words is his commandment , laws thats how you be righteousness by keeping his words his word is his (commandments and laws)Matthew 5; 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[@charlescarter4587]

@abcdefg this what peter say bout paul 2 peter 3;16 test everything 1 Thessalonians5;21. i want you to look at difference bibles when you reading the scriptures? JESUS words is this commandment and laws JESUS words is righteousness. content content content.2 Corinthians9;9 Deuteronomy6;25 matthew6;33 Isaiah42;21 Isaiah51;6,8 i think and believe Philippians 3:9 Paul was prefer to or reference too Isaiah64;6 Philippians3;5-7 Romans5;21

[@charlescarter4587]

@@jeffouellette9946 i think we agree Jesus is the word right made flesh? john1;14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Jesus is the truth right and his word is truth? right ? john14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.. If Jesus is the word of GOD and truth , JESUS word are truth right? psalms 112; 112 Praise ye the Lord. Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord, that delighteth greatly in his commandments. 2 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed. 3 Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endureth for ever psalms 19;8-9 Deuteronomy 11;26-27 psalms128;1 proverbs8;8,32 psalms 119;7,62,106 romans 7;12 i want you to test everything 1thessalonans 5;21. I also want to suggest read different bibles each bible have different words some may not have original word that supposes to be in there what there taken out all i am saying JESUS words make you righteousness and holy if only we do what he said or command.

[@Messianic.Hebrew]

Psalms 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: 👉🏾for all thy commandments are righteousness. Psalms 119:174 I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; 👉🏾and thy law is my delight. Dont listen to these “scholars” that don’t believe the Law is still to be obeyed, it very much is: Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Nuff said.

[@pearltears8039]

Galatians 3:10 10 All those who depend on works of law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not remain in all the things written in the scroll of the Law by doing them.”

[@joolspools777]

When you depend on doing the works of the law for salvation..this is the problem but this in no way means that we should not want to do the right things which essentially is to love God and our neighbour...which is the 10 commandments..first 4 show us how to love God...next 6 show us how we love our neighbour...which is what is meant by the 2 greatest commandments.

[@joolspools777]

@abcdefg Good way of putting it..not national laws over us but spiritual guides and principles.

[@samuelrodriguez9199]

The law summarized is what we are to keep. Love your neighbor as yourself. In that, all the law is fulfilled. Romans 13:9,10.

[@samuelrodriguez9199]

@@michaelmaharlika8569 Jesus already did. Joh. 13:34 Paul already did. Romans 13:9,10 John already did. 1 John 3:23 We are commanded by our Lord to follow his commandments and his word in John 15.

[@samuelrodriguez9199]

@@colinbryant1491 that is not what that verse says. Do not add to his word.

[@samuelrodriguez9199]

@@colinbryant1491 you have to teach right doctrine before you can throw around scriptures like that. Like a baby carrying a machinegun you wield the bible, ready to destroy. You have just enough bible knowledge to make you aware and not enough bible knowledge to lead people to salvation.

[@samuelrodriguez9199]

@@colinbryant1491 the law of Christ is what believers are called to follow. You should have watched the video.

[@charlescarter4587]

@@samuelrodriguez9199 its more then that 1 john2;3-7 john14;24

[@kennycouch6135]

Everyone is "under the law" before salvation because we are under its judgement. Therefore, nobody can be justified before God by keeping the law. Romans 3:19-24 19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Righteousness through Faith 21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, Only by faith in Jesus Christ is a person justified before God.

[@jmonroe6125]

That is bible truth. There is no other truth except that.

[@kennycouch6135]

@@jmonroe6125 amen!

[@jmonroe6125]

@Vincent James that's old testament. Not new. So you are wrong. I suppose you don't know the difference between them.

[@jmonroe6125]

@Vincent James I'll serve Jesus. The true Messiah. You can do what you want bud. Lol

[@kennycouch6135]

In Luke 16:17 Jesus says, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void." In Matthew 5:17-18, as part of His Sermon on the Mount, Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished." With these words, Jesus honored the Law as God's Holy Word and declared the Law to be perfect, non-negotiable, and a true prediction of God's work in the future. The fulfillment of the Law is found in Christ Himself and His finished work of redemption. We are saved by God's grace (Ephesians 2:8-9). Being under grace, believers are not bound by the Law (Romans 6:14), but we have the Holy Spirit actually living in our hearts. The Spirit gives us the ability to "love one another" (John 13:34), and we know that "the one who loves another has fulfilled the law" (Romans 13:8). Christians do not work at fulfilling the Mosaic Law, which Christ fulfilled on our behalf (Matthew 5:17); rather, we fulfill the "law of Christ" by the Spirit's power (Galatians 6:2)

[@jesusisactive9897]

AMEN.❤☝🏽🙌🏽

[@kennycouch6135]

@@jesusisactive9897 Amen!

[@muandamulaudzi4095]

Kenny Couch I agree with you

[@kennycouch6135]

@@muandamulaudzi4095 amen amen my sister!

[@kennycouch6135]

Galatians 5:21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain." We are made righteous by what Christ did on the cross. To say we can be made righteous before God by keeping the law is to say that what Christ did on the cross was insufficient. It "nullifies" what Christ did on the cross. To add the keeping of the law to our faith in Jesus is against what the apostles taught us on how to follow Jesus. We follow him by faith. We are justified by faith. Made holy by faith. Read the bible people and stop simply listening to what people say.

[@kennycouch6135]

Edit/correction. Sorry- that's Galatians 2:21, not 5:21. God bless

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

@@kennycouch6135 dont pay attention to this person. They have no idea what they are talking about.

[@kennycouch6135]

@@IAMhassentyou-h5w lol why would I pay attention to him? Anyone who tries to discredit the bible, discredits themselves. If they don't believe the bible then they have no place in the inheritance of the saints.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

So routinely do people attack the bible and as Christian's we know why. It is because Satan, our adversary, goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. That's why Ephesians 6 tells us to take up the whole armor of God to stand against him. Part of that armor is the word of God which Paul calls the sword of the Spirit. So we need to know what it says and understand it. The gospel of grace that the apostles taught is clear. We are not under law but under grace. Grace is not freedom to sin, it is freedom from the bondage of sin. It is the freedom that the bible speaks about. There is no freedom in keeping the law. Much to the contrary, it is a yoke of bondage and what does Paul say regarding this? Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. 2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. Galatians 5:1-4

[@kennycouch6135]

Why do we accept the writings of the apostle Paul as believers? The apostles not only accepted the Old Testament and Jesus' Word's as authoritative, they also began to see that their writings were on the same authoritative level. Being led by the Holy Spirit, they believed they were speaking for Christ. The Apostle Paul, for example, wrote thirteen letters that have been recognized as Holy Scripture by the Christian church. Who was this man? What evidence do we have to call Paul's writings Scripture? Who Was Paul? We have no physical description of Saul of Tarsus given to us in Scripture. Early tradition says that he was a small man with a bald head. No matter what he looked liked, his writings have become part of the Word of God as found in the New Testament. He was born Saul of Tarsus - a city which is in modern-day Turkey. Tarsus had been part of the Greek world for some time. Although the family of Saul were Jews, Saul himself was a Roman citizen. While still a young man Saul traveled to Jerusalem to train as a Rabbi. In Jerusalem, he became acquainted with a group of people who believed Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah. Saul relentlessly persecuted these people while all the time thinking that he was serving God. The Conversion Of Saul Of Tarsus While heading for Damascus to further jail believers in Jesus, Saul had a blinding vision that knocked him to the ground. The voice that spoke to Saul identified Himself as Jesus of Nazareth - the one whom he had been persecuting. Thus began one of the great turnarounds in history. The greatest antagonist of the Christian faith - Saul of Tarsus - became its greatest missionary - the Apostle Paul. During his lifetime he penned thirteen different works that have become part of the New Testament. It is impossible to overestimate the influence that Paul played in the spread of the Christian faith. He Believed His Message To Be Divine The first thing that must be noticed is that Paul believed his message to be divine. He wrote. If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord (1 Corinthians 14:37). He wrote to the church at Thessalonica. And for this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe (1 Thessalonians 2:13). Paul Spoke Of My Gospel Paul spoke of "my gospel." He said the preaching of Jesus Christ had been kept secret but now had been revealed. Now to him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith (Romans 16:25,26). However, believing to have a divine message does not make it so. What evidence do we have of this message having been sent from God? Paul Received Direct Revelation From The Lord The Bible teaches that Paul received direct revelation from God. Paul wrote. Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? (1 Corinthians 9:1). After an encounter with the ascended Jesus on the Damascus road, Paul had it explained by Ananias: The God of our fathers has chosen you that you should know his will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of his mouth. For you will be his witness to all men of what you have seen and heard (Acts 22:14,15). Disobeying His Writings Brings Discipline Paul said that anyone who disobeyed his writings was to be disciplined by the local church. He wrote. If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person and do not associate with him, so that he will be put to shame (2 Thessalonians 3:14). To the Corinthians he wrote. I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others, since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you (2 Corinthians 13:2-3). Paul also wrote. If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored (1 Corinthians 14:37,38). His Writings Were Considered Scripture During His Lifetime The final point is that the New Testament recognized Paul's writing as Scripture. Peter wrote: Our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which some things are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the rest of the Scriptures (2 Peter 3:15,16). The writings of Paul complete the New Testament. He was the chosen instrument to explain the meaning of the two comings of Jesus Christ. Summary Saul of Tarsus was a great enemy of the church. However he was converted on the road to Damascus while in the midst of persecuting Christians. He became the Apostle Paul - the greatest missionary the church has ever seen. Paul was given the task of explaining the ministry of Christ to the Gentile (non-Jewish) world. We find that he received direct revelation from the Lord. Paul also believed his message to be divine. The Apostle Peter confirmed Paul's words as Scripture. He was God's chosen instrument to reveal much about the central truths of the Christian faith. Paul also explained the necessity of the two comings of Christ.

[@kennycouch6135]

At the root of legalism is the sin of pride, because the legalist thinks that he is able to commend himself to God by his own good deeds. Invariably, he is only looking at externals, not at his heart. Also, the legalist’s pride motivates him to exalt himself in the sight of others by his outward behavior, again neglecting to see the corruption of his own heart. Thus legalism denies human depravity and exalts human ability. As such, it is opposed to the gospel of God’s grace. That’s why both Jesus and Paul clashed with the legalists. Jesus hates legalism because it does not deal with the condition of our hearts before God. Christianity is primarily a matter of the heart. Everything flows from a heart relationship with God, who transforms our hearts when He regenerates us. The Jewish religious leaders seemingly were seeking after God, but in reality they were self-seeking. They didn’t see themselves as sinners in need of a Savior. They saw themselves as good people because they kept the Law. But in reality, they didn’t keep the Law because they didn’t apply it on the heart level. Thus, Jesus in effect said that if they would be as careful about clean hearts as they were about clean hands, then they would be what they ought to be. The structure of our text is that in 11:37-41 we have the setting and overall theme, that legalism puts the emphasis on the external to the neglect of the internal. Then, in 11:42-44 Jesus pronounces three woes on the Pharisees in which He sets forth some of the specific problems with legalism. At this point, an expert in the Jewish law speaks up in self-defense, pointing out that Jesus’ remarks not only condemn the Pharisees; they also insult the lawyers. Rather than apologizing, Jesus launches into a series of three more woes on the lawyers (11:46-52). The result was not repentance, but rather increased hostility on the part of the Pharisees and lawyers in an attempt to trap Jesus in something He might say (11:53-54). The overall theme: Legalism puts the emphasis on the external to the neglect of the internal (11:37-41).

[@jmonroe6125]

The purpose of the law Galatians 3:24-26 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. To serve as a teacher until we receive Christ as our Lord and Savior. Romans 7:7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” To reveal sin but the law cannot change us, nor can it make us holy.

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

Here is an article on Galatians about the law www.eliyah.com/galatianskjv.html

[@jmonroe6125]

@@QuestionThingsUseLogic that's a false teaching. Galatians is directly talking to people who were already believers. It says it within the book itself. Don't believe everything you read.

[@jmonroe6125]

@Vincent James new covenant/old covenant. You should learn the difference.

[@jmonroe6125]

@Vincent James not according to the bible and I think I'll take Gods word over your word.

[@jmonroe6125]

@Vincent James THIS bible. Luke 2:7-9 Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. 9 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire."

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

Adding anything to salvation or righteousness beyond faith is to go against the teachings of the apostles and it is the apostles who interpret the words of Christ for us in scripture. We must always be careful who we listen to. Judaizers and false teachers abound spreading doctrines of demons. The gospel of grace is what Paul and the apostles taught. If we stick to that, we are following Christ correctly.

[@kennycouch6135]

The Judaizer would say that if we claim to be under grace that we are saying it's ok to sin. Much to the contrary. Romans 6 tells us that we should not continue in sin so that grace can abound. Roman's 6 also tells us that sin will not have dominion over you because you are not under law but under grace. The law cannot break sins authority over a person. Grace is what does that. We are called to walk in the Spirit and when we do that, we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Not by keeping the law. By walking in the Spirit (Galatians 5).

[@TatureBud]

Where in scripture says it is not by keeping the law?

[@kennycouch6135]

@@TatureBud read Galatians 5

[@TatureBud]

@@kennycouch6135 ive many times. It is about we are not justified by works of law but justified by faith. But we obey his commandments because we love him

[@kennycouch6135]

@@TatureBud Let's have bible study. Gal. 5:16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So how do we not fall into sin? By keeping commandments? No. What does he say here? By walking in the Spirit. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. So there's a war going on right? Between our flesh that doesn't want to submit to God and the Holy Spirit who dwells in us. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. the Spirit leads regenerate persons, and teaches them to walk by faith in Christ. A person who is led by the Spirit is not only delivered from the law in fact, but delivered from its condemnation. We are not free to sin because we are not under the law, but instead free to live a righteous life before God. Our inner nature is changed (Romans 6) and we are no longer under the bondage of sin. We are slaves to righteousness with the inner desire now to please God. Again, not by keeping commandments but by walking in the Spirit. 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. So we know what sin is. The new testament here defines it for us. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. When we choose to walk in the Spirit, this is what will show in our life. There is no law against those things. 24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If a person belongs to Christ, they will not live in sin. Because we are a new creation in Christ our desires have now changed. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

[@kennycouch6135]

An exposition of Romans 10:4, which says: "Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes," will help in understanding what is means that Christians are not under the law. The apostle Paul clarifies the effects of original sin in Romans 2:12, stating "All who sin apart from the law will perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law." All men stand condemned before God, whether they are Jews or not, or to put it another way, whether they have the Law of God or not. Paul also states "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). If we are without Christ, we are justly condemned in God’s sight by the Law that was given to His servant Moses. However, we might argue that those who are not Jewish and therefore do not benefit from the knowledge of the Mosaic Law (including the moral and ceremonial laws), should not be condemned in the same way. This is dealt with by the Apostle in Romans 2:14-15, where he states that the Gentiles have the essence of God’s legal requirements already ingrained and so are just as much without excuse. The Law is the issue that has to be dealt with in order to bring us into a right relationship with God. "Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified" (Galatians 2:16). This passage reveals that the Law cannot justify or make righteous any man in God’s sight, which is why God sent His Son to completely fulfil the requirements of the Law for all those who would ever believe in Him. Christ Jesus redeemed us from the curse that has been brought through the law by becoming a curse for us (Galatians 3:13). He substituted Himself in our place and upon the cross took the punishment that is justly ours so that we are no longer under the curse of the Law. In doing so, He fulfilled and upheld the requirements of the Law. This does not mean that Christians are to be lawless, as some advocate today-a teaching called antinomianism. Rather, it means that we are free from the Mosaic Law and instead under the law of Christ, which is to love God with all of our being and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Christ became the end of the Law by virtue of what He did on earth through His sinless life and His sacrifice on the cross. So, the Law no longer has any bearing over us because its demands have been fully met in the Lord Jesus Christ. Faith in Christ who satisfied the righteous demands of the Law restores us into a pleasing relationship with God and keeps us there. No longer under the penalty of the Law, we now live under the law of grace in the love of God.

[@areafifty]

So what you're saying is that jc nullified Torah?

[@kennycouch6135]

@@areafifty fulfilled the law.

[@areafifty]

The most ridiculous thing christians do is continually cite the Torah as having all kinds of evidence of JC being messiah. But whenever somebody points out that the Torah says that the Torah will NEVER ever ever ever change, christians will turn around and say that JC Penny says we don't have to obey those laws anymore. That's literally the same thing the mormons do, and christians have the exact same reaction about mormons as jews do about christians. Also, feel free to point out all of the awful things JC said about jews while he changed the Torah. Do you even know of any of them?

[@kennycouch6135]

@@areafifty of course we cite the Old Testament to show Jesus Christ is the messiah because he fulfilled it. You may not believe it but that's on you. He actually fulfilled hundreds of prophecies. When you actually look at the prophecies themselves you can see. Unless you blatantly choose not to.

[@kennycouch6135]

@@areafifty p.s. anything that Jesus said was true because he is the judge. I suppose then if you don't like what Jesus said then you probably wouldn't have liked what any of the prophets said about Israel either. Maybe you should throw out the book of Jeremiah while you're at it.

[@steveparks2976]

In Matthew 22 Jesus sums up the law for us. 34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, 36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" 37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." Then and John 13 Christ gives us a new commandment. This commandment would be just as binding upon New Testament Christians as the law of Moses was upon Israel in the Old Testament. Why? Because Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh. He is our Lord. 31 So, when he had gone out, Jesus said, "Now the Son of Man is glorified, and God is glorified in Him. 32 If God is glorified in Him, God will also glorify Him in Himself, and glorify Him immediately. 33 Little children, I shall be with you a little while longer. You will seek Me; and as I said to the Jews, 'Where I am going, you cannot come,' so now I say to you. 34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." Then, Christ reiterates this commandment in John 15. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. The Apostle John repeats this commandment in 1st John 3. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. The law of Christ which our Lord and Savior gave us himself.

[@kennycouch6135]

Nice comment! Glad to see you here brother

[@steveparks2976]

@@kennycouch6135 hey what's up? I venture out from time to time. ☺

[@keikot4998]

1:17- Do we have a reason and a foundation for what we are saying? Yes. The good reason is that we must read the Bible in terms of its storyline, in terms of its covenantal development. So, though there are many covenant dispensations in the Bible, (for our purpose here) there was the Old Covenant made with Israel, which had certain requirements. And those requirements that were given to Israel set them apart from the nations, distinguished Israel from the nations. So, we have the Old Covenant and then the New Covenant in Jesus Christ. That New Covenant was prophesied in Jeremiah 31, Ezekiel 36, and other passages as well. When we read the whole Bible and when we read the Old Covenant in light of the New, we see that the Old Covenant has passed away. Christians are no longer under the Old Covenant. They are no longer under the stipulations, the commands, the prescriptions in that Old Covenant. The New Covenant is new. So, NONE of the commands in the Old Testament are binding in and of themselves because the whole covenant has passed away as a package. We are under the New Covenant entirely. So, really the question is why we keep ANY of those covenants in the Old Covenant? Now, “Why do we avoid some”, but “Why do we keep some of them”? And we do keep some of them, don't we? Some of them are repeated in the NT. ….. Is there rationale in what the New Testament writers are doing? I think the most helpful way to think of it actually is that the NT writers argue that we are under now, what Paul calls, “the law of Christ,” in Galatians 6:2 and 1 Corinthians 9:20-21, we are NOT under the law of Moses, but we are under the law of Christ. What is “the law of Christ” fundamentally? Galatians 5:14 - the law of Christ is the law of love. And that is what Jesus taught, too. That is in Paul in Galatians. But Jesus taught, in Matthew 22, how to summarize what the law is about ethically? It is about loving God and loving your neighbor. And then both Jesus and Paul and other New Testament writers UNPACK what that love is: What does love look like? Well, if you love, you honor your father and mother. If you love, you don’t steal. If you love, you don’t murder, and you don’t commit adultery. So, some of those commands from the OT pass over, not surprisingly. Some of those commands are still required for today, but they are required: NOT BECAUSE it is part of the Old Covenant BUT BECAUSE the NT “indicates” that they are part of “the law of Christ.” ----- So, when we read the Scripture, we are not being arbitrary or whimsical or just picking up the commands we want to obey. We are actually being faithful to what the Bible as a whole teaches us. We are reading the Bible in light of the whole story, in light of the fulfillment that is in Jesus Christ. The nation of Israel was intended to be in force for a certain period of time. It was the state and the church. But NOW the church of Jesus Christ is in every nation and every people group. And the commands and the laws that are required are different than the laws for the small little nation (Israel) that was political and church entity. What God requires of us in the New Covenant is clear. It fundamentally calls us to is to love one another. It is pretty remarkable when we read the NT, which is NOT filled with detail regulations. The NT focuses on love of God and love of neighbor, and then, it sketches in for us, “OK, here is what love looks like in broad strokes.” But we are fundamentally called upon to imitate Jesus Christ, to follow in His footsteps. We see what the love of God is like in the Cross of Jesus Christ and in the self-giving love for others, and that is what God calls us to do as Christians.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

Amen

[@duanerichards9404]

The New Testament is greater than the Old Testament. Better promises and Jesus is revealed.

[@kennycouch6135]

And the Old Testament points to the new.

[@JudyM-my4hw]

Duane Richards what scripture is that? You must justify everything through scriptures? “For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@kennycouch6135]

@@JudyM-my4hw you don't believe the Messiah is the fulfillment of all scripture?

[@Zion-jw3gm]

No! the "OT" are the foundations of the faith revealed in the "NT" , you could junk the "NT" and still restore it's truth with the "OT", it would be impossible to do it the other way around. "..And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;" eph 2:20 No one ever builds a house walls or roof first, always the foundations.

[@kennycouch6135]

@@Zion-jw3gm absolutely not. The NT, first of all, is not junk. Second of all, Christ is revealed in the New Testament and fulfilled the Old Testament. You seem, as always, to have your priorities mixed up.

[@steelcity6420]

The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). In place of the Old Testament law, Christians are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament law can be a good guidepost for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some of it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it. “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament law is to convict people of our inability to keep the law and point us to our need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us......

[@theanalystkr3255]

I find Christianity very hypocritical, who gives you the right to decide what you do and don't follow. Jesus's message was pure and perfect and surely you as a Christian would want to follow in his footsteps and actions? Christians do not even follow the ten commandments, they create idols and statues of Jesus and Mary, consume swine and do not have laws on segregation between man and woman. Christianity was tainted the day Paul had this 'so-called' vision, and changed the teachings of Jesus. I'm sorry but Paul did not even know Jesus, he was merely a Jew that was sick of his teachings and found them too strict. There is a reason why Judaism and Islam are the way they are, they remain strong their foundations in the commandments and have never been tampered with, Christianity and the Bible has been rewritten and changed multiple times. There is a reason why Christianity is the easiest and most liberal religion to follow, it clearly has the smallest set of rules and it is not a way of life in anyway, please go read the Old Testament and see its beauty and see the way it portrays how we truly please God. In oppose to this hippy story 'New Testament'.

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

TheAnalyst KR who gives us the right to follow the teachings of Paul? is that what you're really saying? As Christians we follow what the entire New Testament tells us because the gospels are defined by the rest of the New Testament. If you are not a Christian yourself then how could you possibly know that? There's a reason why there are 27 books in the New Testament and not just 4. We believe what we believe and it's not up for debate with non-believers.

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

TheAnalyst KR Paul as well as John James and Peter also taught against sin so it's not a liberal religion. It's become a liberal religion to some because there are people who taint what the Bible says. Romans 6 is very clear when Paul tells us that we should not continue in sin simply because we are under grace. There are two different covenants in the Bible and that's how we understand it. That's why there's an Old Testament and a New Testament. If you don't understand that then how can you understand the rest of what the Bible says? God's words are pure but man is evil. Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ and his words are the inspired word of God. Just as much as any other writer in the Bible. That's what we believe.

[@theanalystkr3255]

Code Red your books are tainted and so is your ideology. You’re a disgrace to Moses’ and Jesus’s message, and you know what the most hilarious thing is? Jesus couldn’t even sit and dine with you people, he couldn’t even touch your swine nor feel comfortable amongst you dousing yourself in alcohol. Now go read your stupid little New Testament

[@theanalystkr3255]

@@CodeRed-md3ny And Paul was a very deceptive man who corrupted Jesus's message. Please do not bring the NEW TESTAMENT into conversation as it holds no value or significance in this debate. OT delivered by Moses, and you think Paul was as able as this great prophet? Never. Christianity is a very very liberal religion and Paul chucked away all of the core beliefs of the true principles of Jesus, his way of life. And you dare say this man Paul was holy? Hahaha... How could you possibly not want to live your life like Jesus? You haven't even been able to defend why Christians idle worship and consume swine, oh okay, its because you do not follow the message of Jesus.

[@binmanart]

These videos are way better than Gospel Coalition’s in that they’re simplified answers but not overly simplified and don’t treat the viewer like a simpleton who the speaker in the video won’t go into much detail with. Perfect balance.

[@jesusistheanswer9998]

Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.~Galatians 6:2

[@barryblackwood6050]

Ephesians 2 says as gentiles we now have access to the promises & covenants that were given to Israel. Not that we should change them. They are pure. As Paul said we are grafted into Israel whose root is Jesus. We become fellow citizens v19 V14 & v15 show Christ destroyed the partition of hostility which are found in the commandments of dogmas. Dogmas are man made decrees that Christ objected to when they went against Truth. Like a Jew not being able to associate with a gentile...a lie from men that was a tradition the Jews thought to be true. Read it if your heart wants truth. We become one new man...not a spiritual Israel & ' the Jews' as two separate groups. That is a false dogma Eph 2:12-19 KJV 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; Find truth & do not let go of it. Be blessed. FJ

[@steveparks2976]

As Christians we are under what is known as the law of Christ which Paul describes in Galatians 6:2. Burden-Bearing and the Law of Christ The main point of Galatians 6:1-5 is given in a general way in verse 2 and a specific way in verse 1. Verse 2: "Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ." If a Christian brother or sister is weighed down or menaced by some burden or threat, be alert to that and quickly do something to help. Don't let them be crushed. Don't let them be destroyed. Don't be like the scribes and Pharisees. Jesus said, "They bind heavy burdens hard to bear and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with their finger" (Matthew 23:4). Don't increase burdens. Make them lighter for people. Some of you wonder what you are supposed to do with your life. Here is a vocation that will bring you more satisfaction than if you became a millionaire ten times over: Develop the extraordinary skill for detecting the burdens of others and devote yourself daily to making them lighter. In this way you fulfill the law of Christ(6:2). That's an odd phrase in a book that says (5:18): "If you are led by the Spirit you are not under the law." And (3:13): "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law." Have we been freed from the curse and burden of the Mosaic law just to be burdened down with a more radical law of Christ? No. The difference is that Moses gave us a law but could not change our hearts so that we would freely obey. Our pride and rebellion was not conquered by Moses. But when Christ summons us to obey his law of love, he offers us himself to slay the dragon of our pride, change our hearts, empower us by his Spirit, and fulfill his law. That is why, even though Christ's law is more radical than the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, he can say, "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light" (Matthew 11:28-30). It is easy because when we are weak, he is strong. It's easy because he produces the fruit of love: "I am crucified with Christ, it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me" (2:20). Christ never commands us to do anything that he wants us to do on our own. Therefore, every command in the law of Christ is a call to faith. Through faith God supplies the Spirit of Christ (Galatians 3:5); through the Spirit we produce the fruit of love (5:22); through love we fulfill the law of Christ (6:2). Therefore, if you trust him, you will fulfill his law of love. You will devote yourself to lifting the burdens of others.

[@raymondlashwayojnr6099]

So do we make void the law (10 Commandments) ?

[@terrygreenman1540]

@@raymondlashwayojnr6099 First, the Ten Commandments are synonymous with 'tables of stone' and the two 'tables of testimony.' They are the actual covenant document that established Israel's special national status with God. ". . . two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God." Second, the sabbath, or Fourth Commandment, was the sign of the covenant. ". . . the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath . . . for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Israel forever . . ." Third, the sign of the covenant, or sabbath, stands for the whole covenant. To break the sign is to despise the entire covenant. ". . . keep the sabbath . . . for a perpetual covenant." Fourth, the covenant was made only with the nation of Israel. ". . . the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath . . . It is a sign between me and the children of Israel . . ." Fifth, the essence of the sabbath commandment was to refrain from all physical work. It had nothing to do with public worship. ". . . whosoever doeth any work . . . Six days may work be done, but the seventh is the sabbath of rest . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death." The following texts teach not only that the sabbath was the sign of the covenant given at Sinai, but they show the great importance of the sabbath sign as well: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you; every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God Exodus 31:12-18

[@bassi3315]

King David said the opposite he said that the law was a delight

[@terrygreenman1540]

@@bassi3315 In Christ every believer is totally free from the law. "We are not under the law, but under grace" (Rom.6:15). We are not, justified (Rom. 3:19-24), sanctified (Gal.3:1-3), motivated (II Cor.5:14), ruled (Tit.2:11- 12), or glorified (Jude 24-25) by the law, but by grace. "CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS T0 EVERYONE THAT BELIEVETH" (Rom. 10: 4). Do you ask what that means? It means that Christ is the fulfillment of the law, the satisfaction of the law, and the termination of the law to all who believe on him unto life everlasting. It means that there is no righteousness to be had, of any kind, to any degree, by our own works of obedience to the law. The only way anyone can have righteousness before God is by faith in Christ. He is "THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Jer.23:6). And we are the righteousness of God in him (Jer. 33:16; II Cor. 5:21). "YE ARE BECOME DEAD TO THE LAW BY THE BODY OF CHRIST" (Rom, 7:4), Do you ask what that means? It means that if you are a believer, if Christ died for you, insofar as the law of God is concerned you are dead. It can make no demands upon you. It can require nothing from you. It can do nothing to you. If you and I are in Christ by faith, we have no covenant with the law, no curse from the law, and no commitment to the law. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE AGAINST THE LAW. God forbid! We are not antinomians, We delight in the law of God (Rom.7:22). The real antinomian is the legalist who pretends to keep the law. He lowers the standard of the law to the measure of his own obedience. Otherwise he could find no comfort in his obedience. So the legalist turns the law of God into lasciviousness. That is a complimentary word for his pretended obedience to the law!

[@bassi3315]

@@terrygreenman1540 a question I want to ask do you keep the Ten Commandments

[@edwardgovere8879]

Understanding the difference between Old Testament (OT) and New Testament(NT) The New Testament is OLDER than the Old Testament/Covenant. Specifically, the New Testament is 430 years older than the Old Testament. In Galatians 3 vs 17 - 18, the apostle Paul says, “And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise”KJV. A Testament/covenant does not come into existence until the death of its testator/mediator. Sadly, those who assembled the Bible appear to have missed this obvious gospel truth, and it’s causing a lot of confusion to many folks out there! Me and you have as a result been erroneously taught that Old Testament ends in Malachi 4 vs 6. But, this is NOT true according to what Scripture says! The word of God says in Hebrews 9 vs 16 - 17, “For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth” KJV. The Old Testament ends at Golgotha, when Jesus was crucified (Matthew 27; Mark 15; Luke 23; & John 19). At Calvary, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ put an end to the old order (Old Testament) and that is why when He had received the vinegar which was put to his mouth, Jesus said the words, “IT IS FINISHED” Read John 19 vs 28 -30. It marked the end of the Law of Moses (the Mosaic Covenant or the Old Testament - which is made up of 613 laws, including the 10 commandments God gave to Moses on Mount Sinai/Horeb: Exodus 20). It was at Calvary where Jesus put an end to the Law of Moses/Old Testament. Remember He came to fulfill the Law as he had said before going to the Cross, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled” Matthew 5 vs 17 - 20. But, we see when the Risen Jesus Christ appears to the disciples at Jerusalem, He says, “..These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be FULFILLED, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.” Luke 24 vs 44 KJV. Now, take note of this… A testament/covenant has its own laws and two different covenants cannot be run concurrently; the two CANNOT coexist without confusion. Glory to the Most High God!!! Here’s why we have this, “Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the LAW; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He TAKETH away the first (Old Testament or the Law of Moses), that he may establish the second (New Testament). Hebrews 10 vs 8 -9 KJV. The word of God says in Hebrews 8 vs 13, “In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which DECAYETH and WAXETH old is ready to vanish away”. Colossians 2 vs 13 & 14 “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; BLOTTING OUT THE HANDWRITING OF ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his CROSS”. Jesus Christ, the Anointed One of God, is the FULFILMENT of the Law of Moses! But someone may ask, ‘What do you mean when you say Christ is the fulfillment of the Law? Well, here’s your answer…”For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit”: Romans 8 vs 3 - 4 KJV. Beloved, are you not trying to make yourself righteous by observing the Law of Moses? Are you not a well-respected and highly honored member of your church because you’re a faithful tither? Are you not trying so hard to keep the Sabbath/7th day? Don’t you observe the Passover feast? Do they not read out loud the ten commandments from the pulpit without preaching the revealed word of God from these laws? Everything written in the Old Testament was prophesying about the suffering, death, resurrection and glorification of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. In the book of Acts, we see the apostle Paul testifying Christ before king Agrippa and Festus, saying the following words, “Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying NONE OTHER THINGS than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should SUFFER, and that he should be the first that should RISE from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles” Acts 26 vs 22 - 23 KJV. The Old Testament is a shadow of the New Testament! I must be beside myself…what do I mean?!!! When God gave instructions for the Passover in Exodus 12, it was a shadow/prophecy/allegory, or in other words, a type of Christ as the true Passover. In 1 Corinthians 5 vs 7, the apostle Paul says, “Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us” When God commanded the children of Israel to keep the Sabbath, it was all about the rest that Christ would give to the believers/saints or those whom God chose before the foundation of the world. Christ is our 7TH Day; so we rest in Him. This is the rest spoken about in Hebrews 4 from verse 1 - 11; the same rest Jesus was speaking about in Matthew 11 vs 28 & 29, “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls”KJV

[@barryblackwood6050]

Hi You have done a mighty writing work. I think we cannot get rid of shadows until all is finished. The shadows point to the heavenly reality. The Feasts of God are still mightily prophetic with more iterations before the millenium is ushered in & before all is finished and Christ & the Father dwell with us in the New Jerusalem on the new Earth. Isaiah 66 : 23 says new moons & Sabbaths will still be celebrated in that time too. This is my understanding of Covenant that is scriptural that I found a video that explains it well. This is called what is the Good NEWS kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWnbpX1uZ7JseaM Might increase our understanding of the covenant we have in Jesus. Interested to hear what you think. Bye Bro. FJ Bye FJ this is called what is the Good NEWS kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWnbpX1uZ7JseaM Might increase your understanding of the covenant we have in Jesus. Interested to hear what you think. Bye FJ

[@kennycouch6135]

Paul clearly teaches in his writings that Christian's are not under the law. He rebukes Peter and the church in Galatia for mixing the law with their faith in Christ. Galatians 2:14-21 14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, "If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not! 18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

[@mr.e1220]

Paul has an analogy that since he died with Christ that the law cannot bring death to him. We see this in Romans 8:7 when he tells us the carnal mind is the one that cannot submit to the law of God. When we die in Christ Our sinful flesh dies and we are risen in newness of life and we are able to walk as our Saviour walk and we are able to obey the Commandments which are holy righteous and good. People are twisting Paul's words as Peter warned us they would to their own destruction.

[@ronbanks1541]

Paul does NOT clearly teach that Christians are not under the law because Jesus taught that the law would never be done away with and Paul was a disciple of Jesus. If when Paul hard to understand or appears to contradict Jesus, go to what Jesus says. He is clear.

[@ronbanks1541]

What Paul does teach is that we are saved from the penalty of transgression of the law by the grace of Jesus through faith to those who believe.

[@kennycouch6135]

Galatians 1:6-9 6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

[@crusaderforchrist5859]

Acts 15 showed us a picture of what the apostles taught and didn't teach. If the apostles didn't teach the law then why are you?

[@littlefish8815]

Cause christ did

[@crusaderforchrist5859]

@@littlefish8815 and the question you should ask yourself is why he did, what time period he did it in and what the rest of the bible has to say on the matter.

[@littlefish8815]

100% agree

[@BrevoryFoster]

1 John 5:3 "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome."

[@ManlyServant]

deutoronomy 30:11

[@jesusourlord1282]

When we put our faith in Jesus Christ and make him the Lord of our life, his Spirit comes and dwells within. That is how the law is now "written on our hearts." When we walk in the Spirit, we are not breaking the law of God. Galatians 5 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

[@steveparks2976]

That's right. We walk in the newness of the Spirit, not the oldness of the letter ( Romans 7:6).

[@jmonroe6125]

I don't think the legalists and Judaizers get this. They want to follow Jesus on their own ability so they can brag about it. They are holding on to their teaching instead of going by what the word says. That ones called pride. If they actually went by what the bible SAYS instead of their false interpretations, they would see their error.

[@jmonroe6125]

Actually it starts with being humble. Then God can open their eyes to see what the bible is trying to say.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

I think some people don't have the Holy Spirit so they don't understand that.

[@jmonroe6125]

@@IAMhassentyou-h5w if someone doesn't have the Holy Spirit the only thing they have left is their own righteousness.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

People should truly listen to the video before responding. The bible is clear on this issue. Galatians tells us we are not to mix the keeping of the law with our faith in Jesus Christ. It's a false gospel that nullifies what Christ did on the cross. Roman's 6 tells us we are not under the law but under grace. Roman's 7 tells us we are dead to the law and married to Christ. Roman's 8 tells us that the only way to be holy before God is through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

Amen

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@Buckeye Country a person is not breaking the law if they are walking in the Spirit. Galatians 5- I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@Buckeye Country Galatians 3- just as Abraham "believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed." 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them." 11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for "the just shall live by faith."

[@12GatesProductions]

Please note that the law is in effect right now...Geez!🤷🏾‍♂️👇 Romans 3:30-31 [30]Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. [31]Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans 6:15 [15]What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. What law was Paul referring to? Was it all the Law or A law? Hebrews 8:10 [10]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: The Law is not going anywhere simpletons, here is what Paul was referring to: Hebrews 10:1-6 [1]For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. [2]For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. [3]But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. [4]For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. [5]Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: [6]In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. It is the law of sacrifice, this is why Christ came for Israel first. Gentiles cannot and must not teach the scriptures unless they are taught with the correct understanding and Spirit. 2 Peter 3:14-17 [14]Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. [15]And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; [16]As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. [17]Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. You heathens are killing yourselves with your own misunderstandings of Paul's letters. Stop😡✋

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@12GatesProductions you should be the one to stop because you are taking all of that scripture OUT OF CONTEXT.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Romans 6:14--- For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

[@mr.e1220]

Romans 8 1 and 2 tells us that this is speaking of the law of sin and death. We are not delivered from yahweh's laws. Why would a Believer want to be delivered from his God's laws?

[@mr.e1220]

@Vincent James it is true that man can obey God's laws, but we must also have faith in Messiah. It is Faith in his blood that cleanses us from the sin when we do not keep the Commandment. Even though a man can keep the Commandments in the Old Testament when he fell short he needed a sacrifice to cover his sin but nothing took his sin away until Jesus came as the Messiah. His blood takes away our sins and delivers us from death so we are redeemed from the curse of the law. We are not redeemed from the law itself, but we are redeemed from the curse of the law by him taking death and our place like the sacrifice did.

[@mr.e1220]

@Vincent James I agree with you that in that particular scripture the atonement or sacrificial system of shedding blood for the Forgiveness of sins is not mentioned, but we already know that that was mentioned prior in Exodus and so on

[@mr.e1220]

@Vincent James yes. The intentional sins just brought death. But the blood shed for the unintentional sins is still symbolic of the shed blood of the Lamb of God.

[@mr.e1220]

@Vincent James what does Passover represent? How is man forgiven of sin? God said the wages of sin is death. We cannot work our way to salvation. What do you believe the sacrificial system in the high priest was all about? It was about man sin separating him from God and that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin. Christ shed his blood as the Lamb of God to take away my sinned and there are types and shadows of that in the Old Testament. There are different theories of the atonement. Christus Victor is less of him dying in our place and more him dying at the hands of sinful man but stripping the power of the enemy in the process.

[@jmonroe6125]

I, for one, appreciate the video. He does a very good job explaining the subject for us and I would say most agree. We are NT believers under the new covenant promises. We are under Gods amazing grace. Thank you for posting this video. Blessings

[@Zion-jw3gm]

How does the "New" Covenant Promises differ from the "Old"?

[@jmonroe6125]

@@Zion-jw3gm many ways. Jesus is superior to Moses as a mediator; Jesus is a high priest forever, seated next to God in heaven; Jesus' sacrifice was once for all, perfecting believers for eternal life. ▪ we have the Holy Spirit within us now, when we have put our faith in Christ ▪We have the law written on our hearts through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and have the power, through the Holy Spirit to be holy before God ▪ the power of sin over our lives is broken. We are no longer slaves to sin because of grace.

[@Zion-jw3gm]

@@jmonroe6125 You've not really covered the Covenant promises to those that are grafted into Isreal through Messiah. The Holy Spirit given to believers leads them to keep his commandments having them written on their hearts, that is the new covenant, the Holy Spirit conversion. Though the benefits or blessings associated with this union are no different to what was originally part of the "old" covenant.

[@jmonroe6125]

@@Zion-jw3gm actually, every single one of those deals with how gentile believers are included as all believers receive the Holy Spirit when they come to Christ. All believers have Christ as their High Priest. All believers have the law written on their heart and are covered by the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross.

[@jmonroe6125]

@@Zion-jw3gm not sure how you can read all of that and think that the benefits and blessings are no different. They are very different and based on much better promises (as Hebrews tells us.) I'm getting the impression that you just want to hang onto the old covenant which was for the nation of Israel.

[@kennycouch6135]

What did Jesus mean when he said the things he said? That's why we have the epistles written by the apostles. They explain the words of Christ. Anyone who explains the words of Christ apart from the apostles are teaching their own doctrine. 27 books in the New Testament for a reason.

[@kennycouch6135]

The NT clearly teaches we as Christian's are not under the law Romans 6:14 is one clear example of that: For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. However, many see grace as a license to live any way they want to. So many non Christian cults have perverted the gospel of grace and made sin ok. Paul clearly states that grace is not license to sin. Romans 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? So the answer is NOT to be disobedient to the true teachings of the apostles and put ourselves under the law. The answer is to understand the truth of what grace is for it is grace that saves (Ephesians 2:8,9) and grace that Christ came to bring (John 1:14,17).

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

Galatians 2:11-21 Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; 12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing those who were of the circumcision. 13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy. 14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, "If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you [1] compel Gentiles to live as Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not! 18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

There have always been groups of Christians who believe that in order to honor God’s authority in the Old Testament we must continue to obey the food laws and other ceremonial laws, lest we be found in disobedience. There is a good impulse in this and a profoundly bad impulse in this. The good impulse is the desire to obey God. There’s nothing wrong with that. That belongs to what it means to be a Christian. The bad impulse is the failure to obey Christ who teaches us how to obey God in regard to the Old Testament. So, the good impulse starts, perhaps, with a text like Matthew 5:17-18. Jesus says, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.” And the good impulse puts the emphasis on every dot, every iota of the law standing until the earth passes away. And the bad impulse neglects the words, I have come “to fulfill them,” and the words, “until all is accomplished.” In other words, the bad impulse fails to see in Jesus the kind of fulfillment and the kind of accomplishment of the Law and the Prophets that God always intended in the Old Testament as the consummation and the end of the ceremonial laws. So, the effort to hold on to the prohibition of eating pork is, in effect, a refusal to submit to God’s plan for the fulfillment of the Law in Jesus.

[@protestant77]

1クール (((((((((((((((⚠️WARNING⚠️)))))))))))))) Sunday is NOT the Lord's day! Sunday is NOT the Sabbath day! 7th day Sabbath = God's Holy Day! 1st day Sunday = Satan's counterfeit! SABBATH 👉 (Exodus 20:8-11) SUNDAY 👉 (Mark 7:7) JESUS says the 7th day is holy! POPE says the 1st day is holy? 🤔WHO WILL YOU OBEY????????? Ex-illuminati speaks on Sunday's off! 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqu7gqqgmZt4mqs Why Sunday is the MARK OF THE BEAST???? 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKfOk4CaedZsfpI

[@protestant77]

abcdefg Yes I'm aware of all the 8 times that the first day (Sunday) is mentioned. None of which changes the sabbath day, or is called a holy day! Btw you can "break bread" any day of the week! Breaking bread just means they ate! And if you believe that breaking bread is the Lord's supper, than please keep in mind you can partake of the Lord's supper on any day of the week! Jesus actually instituted the Lord's supper on a Thursday?

[@protestant77]

abcdefg Amen! (Hebrews 4:4) = The SEVENTH DAY!!! ⚠️NOT SUNDAY!!!

[@protestant77]

abcdefg You are so far from the TRUTH! First of all, the sabbath is not mentioned in the entire book of Romans! It is very clear that this chapter of Romans 14 is speaking about "FASTING" for the Lord! 👉(Romans 14:6) 🤔Why ???? Because the Bible makes it very clear! We cannot make a day holy! We cannot pick what day is sabbath! The Bible says the "The Lord's Day" 👉(Rev.1:10) The 4th commandment says it MUST be the seventh day! 👉(Exodus 20:8-11) ☝️Imagine if everyone could choose their sabbath day? What CONFUSION!!! My God is a God of order! Do you know what would happen if someone was found breaking the 4th commandment under the Mosaic law? They were STONED TO DEATH 💀 for breaking the sabbath day! 👉(Exodus 31:14) How inconsistent would that make God? From stoning sabbath breakers, to now allowing them to pick there own sabbath 🤔???????? ☝️How inconsistent! For I am the LORD, I change not! (Malachi 3:6) I can give a very long list of scriptures that prove God's Holy Sabbath Day MUST be on the 7th day of the week!!! But all you can come up with is a twisted interpretation of Romans 14? According to Bible you need 2 or 3 scriptures/ witnesses to establish any kind of doctrine!!! So can you please prove to me, what day of the week is??????? "The Lord's Day" (Rev.1:10) 🤔Using 2 or 3 scriptures? I will gladly show you the scriptures😃

[@ezekiel37projectmessianicb90]

@abcdefg The thing is that most of the time, you understans the gospel. You are an intelligent fellow and I do have respect for the research you do. The bible is God's holy word. Every part is true. If you make the gospel the center of how you live your life and how you act towards others, please continue sharing the gospel with others. It is only by the sacrifice of the Messiah that we are saved. He alone atones and circumcizes the heart. Ephesians 2:8, Revelation 3:20, Deuteronomy 30:6, Romans 6:23. Historically, the Roman Empire tried to take Christianity and claim it as their own religion. Sunday was the day the Romans worshipped their gods. When our people revolted against Hadrian, the Romans took us captive and required us to observe all their paganism. Then they took Christianity and uprooted everything Jewish and made it their own. This can't be what Paul was talking about in terms of that we are under grace. The answer as to why is found in the bible: Deuteronomy 28:64 - "Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods-gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. In Deuteronomy 28:64 - 68, God clearly told us what would happen from the time Titus destroyed the temple in 70 AD through the second century. Deuteronomy 32 describes how God would deal with our people for falling away from his instructions. Deuteronomy 32:31 describes how just like our God delivered us to our enemies that their "rock" (idols and gods) is not like our Rock. That verse shows so much meaning not just to the enemies which Israel faced before they entered the promised land. The gods of the Roman Empire represented "rocks" that were not like "The Rock". Furthermore Ezekiel 36:25 - 27 states "25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. God made his promise that we would be cleansed from idolatry as part of Salvation and that his people would be a light to the world so that Salvation reaches the ends of the earth - Isaiah 49:6. So does that mean that us believers in Yeshua (Jesus), who only believe that Salvation is by being saved by grace and not by the works of the law, follow the very thing that caused our people to be captive and that was rooted in worshipping idols? Certainly not. The Sunday Sabbath was rooted in idolatry and invented by the Roman Empire and sustained through the Catholic church. Thr Catholics also teach we must do good deeds to go to heaven. Was it not the blood of the Messiah that redeemed us and the only way? Yet, people encourage us to go to church on Sunday, and celebrate easter and Christmas. In the fourth century and beyond both gentiles and Jews stood against it and were persecuted still. I encourage those same people who encourage believers who go to church on Sunday and celebrate Easter and Christmass to pop open a history book and learn the origins of all three of those days. Then they ought to read 1 Corinthians 10. God warns people not to celebrate anything rooted in paganism. The Roman empire persecuted Christians and then decides in the fourth century under Constantine (who would be Jewish by blood because his mother was a Messianic Jew) to paganize it. The paganism was very dark. So everytime I hear pastors encouraging Christians to go to church on Sunday and celebrate Christmass and easter: this is what they say: lets fellowship together and tell others to take a day of rest and turn a blind eye to history and the fact that all three traditions are rooted in idolatry, antisemitism, and horrible corruption. God did not make a covenant with the Roman empire. So why are we following it? Why do people keep the Sabbath on Sunday?

[@kennycouch6135]

Galatians 2:16 Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. Romans 7:6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. Romans 6:14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

[@kennycouch6135]

1 Corinthians The strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56) 2 Corinthians The law is a ministry of death. (2 Corinthians 3:7) The law is a ministry of condemnation. (2 Corinthians 3:9) The law has no glory at all in comparison with the New Covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:10) The law is fading away. (2 Corinthians 3:11) Anywhere the law is preached it produces a mind-hardening and a heart-hardening veil. (2 Corinthians 3:14-15) Galatians The law justifies nobody. (Galatians 2:16) Christians are dead to the law. (Galatians 2:19) The law frustrates grace. (Galatians 2:21) To go back to the law after embracing faith is “stupid”. (Galatians 3:1) The law curses all who practice it and fail to do it perfectly. (Galatians 3:10) The law has nothing to do with faith. (Galatians 3:11-12) The law was a curse that Christ redeemed us from. (Galatians 3:13) The law functioned in God’s purpose as a temporary covenant from Moses till John the Baptist announced Christ. (Galatians 3:16 & 19, also see… Matthew 11:12-13, Luke 16:16) If the law worked God would have used it to save us. (Galatians 3:21) The law was our prison. (Galatians 3:23) The law makes you a slave like Hagar. (Galatians 4:24)

[@jmonroe6125]

Christ is our all sufficient one. It is through him we are made holy.

[@MultiRm]

J Monroe does He allow you to sin or to over come sin? Does He forgive your sins if you willfully keep committing the same sin?

[@SoRunThatYeMayObtain]

@@MultiRm I doubt that I’m saved sometimes because of Heb. 10:26-27. Edit: But it’s not like I’m blaming this passage of scripture. Proverbs 26:11 reminds me a lot of myself. *Sigh* Is all hope really lost? Can I still be saved, again? Then there’s Hebrews 6 and 2 Peter 2.

[@mr.e1220]

@@SoRunThatYeMayObtain don't take this literally. God isn't some mean boss. God is Light and Love and He doesn't reside in religion at all. He is within you.

[@kennycouch6135]

Ephesians Christ has abolished the law which was a wall of hostility (Ephesians 2:15) Philippians Paul considered everything the law gained him as “skybalon” which is Greek for “poop”. (Philippians 3:4-8) 1 Timothy The law is only good if used in the right context. (1 Timothy 1:8) (see next verse for the context) It was made for the unrighteous but not for the righteous. (1 Timothy 1:9-10) Hebrews The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19) God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-8) It is obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish. (Hebrews 8:13) It is only a shadow of good things to come and will never make someone perfect. (Hebrews 10:1)

[@jenniferschmidt3051]

Some of what you say may be taken out of context to make your point. For instance, what about "for the Law is holy and righteous and good", and "do we then annul the Law because of Messiah? God forbid! May it never be! On the contrary, we establish/uphold the Law!" Also, what about Hebrews 8:8-10, which says that, as part of the New Covenant, the "Law has been written on our hearts, and in our minds", and are you really sure that it IS the Sinai Covenant that was "obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish"? What about the Covenant of Moab, given in Deuteronomy, "deuteros" meaning SECOND, (Greek) and "nomos", meaning LAW? We ALL KNOW that keeping the Law does NOT purchase our eternal salvation! Nor does it PERFECT us! Eternal life is a FREE GIFT! The WAGES of SIN, (transgression of the Law) is death...we work for death and we EARN it! We are CALLED and EQUIPPED to WALK AS HE WALKED! He walked in obedience to the Law! Messiah Yeshua kept the 7th day Sabbath, He kept the Feasts of YHVH, NOT "Jewish" Feasts, but YESHUISH FEASTS! We will ALL be keeping the 7th day Sabbath in the Millennial Kingdom, as well as the NEW MOONS and SUKKOT! And, of course, celebrating the Passover Memorial! Messiah Yeshua is the Passover Lamb...NOT the easter/Ishtar ham! He is "the Lamb who TAKES AWAY the SIN of the world"! He doesn't JUST COVER sin, like the animal sacrifices did...which had to be repeated over and over again! Scripture says that He takes away sin, (transgression of the Law), as far as the East is from the West! How far is that? If you go East, you will NEVER go West! NOT unless you turn around and go in the opposite direction! So, that's pretty far! The Spring Feasts WERE a shadow of Messiah Yeshua's FIRST appearing to provide salvation for the world, when He died on Passover, as the "SUFFERING SERVANT", He was the Unleavened Bread, He rose on First Fruits, the Holy Spirit was given to INDWELL believers on SHAVUOT! Let us CELEBRATE HIS FULFILLMENT OF THOSE PROPHETIC FEASTS! The FALL FEASTS ARE a SHADOW OF Messiah Yeshua's RETURN< when we celebrate HIM as the CONQUERING KING OF YOM TERUAH, the SACRIFICE AND the SCAPEGOAT of YOM KIPPUR, AND WHEN WE GO INTO THE WEDDING CHAMBER WITH HIM AS HIS BRIDE ON SUKKOT! HALLELUJAH! The Feasts are HOLY, SET APART, REHEARSALS! If you were going to be wed, and you invited members of the wedding party to the rehearsal, and they said to you, "DO WE HAVE TO BE THERE?", would you think that they didn't want to know what was going to go on at the real ceremony? We are supposed to PROCLAIM HIS DEATH until He returns! NOT His birth! His birth WAS supernatural, but He was born as a human being, in a body of flesh...it is/was HIS DEATH that (He was BORN TO DIE) CONQUERED SIN and Satan, NOT His birth! NONE OF US HAS ALL THE ANSWERS! WE ALL have a piece of the answer puzzle! Some have more pieces than others now, but they must put them in place as they see fit! Some pieces have been put in the wrong place, because they look like they ALMOST fit! But we won't be able to see that clearly until almost at the end of the puzzle putting together session! And some people hoard puzzle pieces! Did you ever put together a jigsaw puzzle, with several hundred or a thousand pieces? More to say, about "the Law being a "pedagogue" to lead us to Messiah"...well, what is a "pedagogue"? It is/was a mature person who was hired by parents to accompany their child daily, to tutor the child and show the child how to behave properly, NOT necessarily academics...when the child grew to adulthood, he/she would most likely "be like his/her Master/pedagogue"...and the parents did NOT then BAN the pedagogue and tell the child to forget everything that the MASTER/PEDAGOGUE taught him/her! NO WAY! The child would grow into a fine, upstanding member of Godly society! NOT the WORLD's idea of society! Anyway, I gotta go now...I have spent enough time of this today. I hope that you had a blessed and meaningful Passover REMEMBRANCE and that you are enjoying an UNLEAVENED time of RENEWAL AND REFRESHING UNDER THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB, YESHUA, WHO TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD! Baruch B'Shem Yeshua!

[@steveparks2976]

Jennifer Schmidt if you read the scriptures above you would realize that 1st Timothy 1:9 and 10 show the purpose of the law which is for unbelievers. There is a purpose for the law and the law is good but if you try to be justified before God by keeping it, then you are using it for a purpose that it's not intended to be used for. When Hebrews speaks of the old Covenant which is being made obsolete, it is talking about the Covenant of Moses. If you read Hebrews carefully that's exactly what it's talking about. That's why we have an Old Testament and a New Testament. An Old Covenant and a New Covenant. The New Covenant that Jesus spoke about in Luke 22:20.

[@steveparks2976]

Jennifer Schmidt you are taking the Law and using it for a purpose that it is not intended for. In the scripture that you quoted, (Romans 3:31) where he says we establish the law, did you ever stop to look at the verses that precede it? Verses 21-23 says....But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, The righteousness of God has been revealed which is APART from; SEPARATE from; has NOTHING TO DO WITH the law. There is a purpose for the law and that purpose is for unbelievers so that when Judgment Day comes they will be more accountable to God. The Apostle Paul contended with people like you very strongly. People that he called the 'people of the circumcision' or were also known as judaizers. The gospel that the New Testament speaks about is the gospel of faith and we are justified by faith before God. Just as Abraham was justified by faith before the law ever came into being.

[@jenniferschmidt3051]

@@steveparks2976 I was just going to let this go, but how do you discern who believers are from unbelievers, since most "New Testament" only people are out there doing the same things as the unbelievers? Do you think that it's okay, then, as several other people have asked, to kill/murder, steal, lie & cheat and commit adultery, lust or elicit lust from others, or even work on the 7th day Sabbath and make others work on Sabbath? To me, that's NOT very loving! You say that "the Law is for unbelievers", and then when they read it, or hear it, what do they do then? If they REPENT, do they just say, "I'm forgiven, now I can go back and do all those things with a clear conscience, because Gentile Jesus paid the penalty for my sin/s"! And since He is NOT really the Passover Lamb, but is the Ishtar ham, He really didn't take away the power of sin, so I can continue to transgress the Law". The "Judaizers" were those who Rav Sha'ul, Paul, contended with because they said that Gentiles had to be circumcised to change their ethnic identity in order to be saved! We ALL know full well that NOBODY is saved by "keeping the Law", particularly the sacrificial aspects of the "Law". And did you read the part about the Moab Covenant, given in Deuteronomy, deuteros meaning "second" and nomos meaning "law", being the "Law that was added because of transgressions" and being also, "the law that was becoming obsolete and was passing away"? That's because it included the earthly Levitical priesthood, the Tabernacle and the Sacrificial system, which made it possible for ancient Israel to exist in YHVH"s presence without being wiped off the face of the earth...which is what YHVH wanted to do to Israel when He saw the golden calf! The reason it was written that way is because the Temple was STILL STANDING when that was written! The remnant of Israel who still lived in the area of the Temple were still making sacrifices at that time, even after Messiah died and the veil in the Temple was rent from top to bottom, opening the way into the Holy of Holies in heaven, the very throne room of YHVH! The Temple was NOT destroyed until 70 CE! That's why Messiah would be of no effect for those who became circumcised to change their ethnic identity, as they would no doubt have been required to go into the Temple and make sacrifices! I am NOT even "Jewish", but Yeshuish! I am a Messianic Gentile who is GRAFTED INTO THE GOOD< CULTIVATED OLIVE TREE OF REDEEMED, BELIEVING REMNANT "Israel". Gentiles are NOT their own "new gentile olive tree"! Sorry! Sad for you, but true for me! I've got news for you, there are some ethnic "Jews", who also think that the "Law has been done away with". And like Anne Graham Lotz, who says, "just give me 'Jesus' "...then we all just do our own thing...we can 'heal' people in his name, and 'cast out demons in his name', and do many other marvelous works, and what is He going to say? "Go away from Me, I never knew you, you LAWLESS Ones"! We profane the Sabbath, lust, cheat, lie, commit adultery, steal, kill, rape, kidnap, etc., etc. and we are still "okay", because Gentile, Aryan "Jesus" COVERED IT ALL! He redeemed us TO obey, NOT FROM Obedience! We were ALL serving SATAN before our New Birth! Satan is the ruler of this world system! I guess if you don't have anything constructive to offer, then you start name calling and accusing! What about "for the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat, therefore, do what they say, but don't do what they do...for they say and do not"? Some say that Messiah Yeshua was only speaking to the "Jews" at that time, however, I need you to tell me how it is that Gentiles, being wild branches, grafted in, contrary to nature, just accept Gentile, Aryan Jesus as their Savior and aren't called to "walk as He walked"? Do you know anything about grafting? In nature, good branches are grafted into wild root stock, because wild roots are cold and winter hardy, heat and drought tolerant, and insect and dis-ease resistant! But what have we here? We have WILD BRANCHES being grafted into the GOOD, CULTIVATED OLIVE TREE of REDEEMED BELIEVING REMNANT ISRAEL...NOT apostate, backsliding, disobedient "Israel"! Call me all the names that you like, if it makes you "feel" better about yourself! If I were really doing what you say I am doing, then I truly need to be corrected...but My Master & Savior is the ONE to do it! So many others have given a truly good defense of the Gospel as the "Law written on the heart" instead of on tablets of stone! What is written on your heart? And I ask you why did Yeshua let the woman caught in adultery off the hook? He told her, "go and sin no more, lest something worse happen to you". First of all, adultery is one of the commandments. Secondly, what could possibly be worse than being stoned to death? And then, she didn't commit adultery by herself! She had a partner! But the Pharisees only brought the woman! It was a "good old boys club"! The man was just being a man! It's what men do...they lust and they cheat! I've heard it so many times, it makes me puke! 1 John 3:4, "for SIN is transgression of the Law". Being eternally separated from the Father is worse than being stoned to death in the flesh! And didn't the man deserve the death penalty?! Don't you see why "church" is impotent in the world? Because it is LAWLESS! I recently read about the Welsh revival, when people were repenting and turning to the Savior in droves, and the police didn't have anything to do, BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS BECOMING LAW ABIDING! Someone in early American said, "obey God, or be ruled by tyrants"! So, you have a choice...decide to answer the call, and we are ALL CALLED, and if we hear the Call, and heed the Call and obey the Call, then we are CHOSEN! To walk the walk and then talk the talk. Too many people love to talk the talk without walking the walk! Why NOT celebrate Messiah as the Passover Lamb Sacrifice who takes away the SIN of the world? Remember that "sin is transgression of the Law"! Paul said, "for Messiah, our Passover has been slain for us, therefore let us keep the Feast..." Why NOT celebrate First Fruits, in honor of Messiah Yeshua who is/was the FIRST FRUITS FROM AMONG THE DEAD? Most want to scold and bully and accuse and name call and offer their own interpretation of Scripture. I guess it's because they don't have anything else to offer. I am interesting in your perspective, if you are genuinely interested in speaking the Truth! I am open to correction, by someone who is qualified to do correction. We all are entitled to our own opinion, but not entitled to our own facts! The fact is, Messiah Yeshua, through His blood sacrifice, restored us to righteous relationship with the Creator of the Universe, YHVH, it's NOT RELIGION! It's relationship! Did you ever read Jeremiah 31:31-33, 34 and Hebrews 8:8-10, about the Promise and the Fulfillment of the Law written on the hearts of the recipients? And guess who the New/Renewed Covenant was made with? And who is GRAFTED INTO that New/Renewed Covenant? What does "righteousness" look like? Is it a bunch of Lawless freaks running around doing their own thing, creating their own calendar, making up their own festivals, cheating, lusting, fornicating, stealing, eating snakes and alligators and dogs and hogs, and cats and bats, and human flesh? Nice...Good for them, and good for you, if that's what you think it is. Good luck with all that! Grace enables obedience! Repentance means to TURN FROM SIN! NOT just say, "sorry". Thanks for sticking with me, if, in fact, you have...

[@steveparks2976]

Jennifer Schmidt your assuming that new testament believers act like unbelievers? that's a pretty blanket statement don't you think?

[@kennycouch6135]

There is probably no sin more tolerated or more widespread in the Christian world than legalism. It may surprise you to hear it labeled as sin. Legalists are thought to be a bit overzealous or “uptight,” but they aren’t usually thought of as sinning in the same sense as adulterers, thieves, liars, and the like. To the contrary, legalists seem to be concerned about holiness. Yet the Lord Jesus had more conflicts with the legalists of His day than any other group. It wasn’t the adulterers, the robbers and that sort, who put Jesus on the cross. It was the legalists. Later on, the Apostle Paul had the same experience, as the legalists dogged his steps, perverting the gospel of the grace of God. When you study the life of Christ, it is noteworthy how He deliberately did things to provoke the legalists. He could have healed people on any other day of the week, but He often did it on the Sabbath. He could have been more discreet in violating the Pharisees’ rules, but He did it openly. When a Pharisee invited Jesus to dinner, He could have gone along with their elaborate hand-washing custom, but He deliberately ignored it. When they questioned Him about it, He could have been more polite, but He blasted them for their hypocrisy. When a lawyer pointed out that Jesus had offended them as well, He didn’t say, “I’m sorry! I didn’t mean to offend you good folks.” He said, “Woe to you lawyers as well!” Jesus confronted legalism as sin.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Acts 15-------10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

[@ManlyServant]

lots of people in the bible is said to keep the law and righteous,that verses has nothing to do with the law,its not hard not to murder,its not too hard not to put tattoo in your body,its not too hard not to cheat on your husband,not to blaspheme God,not to preach false teaching,not to disobey your parents,that verses is about the legalistic laws by pharisees,the old testament God literally says Gods law is not HARD to obey (deutoronomy 30:11),can you give better argument please?,im waiting

[@kennycouch6135]

1 Timothy The law is only good if used in the right context. (1 Timothy 1:8) (see next verse for the context) It was made for the unrighteous but not for the righteous. (1 Timothy 1:9-10) Hebrews The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19) God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-8) It is obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish. (Hebrews 8:13) It is only a shadow of good things to come and will never make someone perfect. (Hebrews 10:1)

[@magandangaraw5492]

We are to follow the New Testament because we are in the new covenant. Some things pass to the new from the old like not committing adultery but is fulfilled in love (Romans 13:9,10). If it was all about the laws for Israel we would not have been given 27 new testament books to read.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@@whowhat7135 not undermine but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." Fulfill meaning to bring to completion.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@@whowhat7135 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqKwiqhrd5J6l5Y

[@magandangaraw5492]

@@whowhat7135 Christ fulfilled it by living it so that everyone who believes in him would also fulfill the law. He fulfilled every aspect of it from the moral parts of the law to the sacrificial part.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@@whowhat7135 everything regarding Jesus Christ is about faith which follows what the OT taught about faith with men like Abraham. Romans 4 and Galatians 3-4 Paul talks about the faith of Abraham and how we are justified by faith like Abraham was. Noah, same thing. He believed God and because of that Noah found grace from God. Hope that helps you to understand.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@abcdefg I definitely agree with you there. This would certainly be less complicated if we only focused on the New Testament.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

Always remember that when Christ was on earth the old covenant was still in place for Israel. The Jews were still required to follow the law of Moses. We are under the new covenant in Christ. Christ Jesus fulfilled the law so we could be righteous by faith in him.

[@irvincruz7992]

Is that in scripture?

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@irvincruz7992 of course it is ubdavid.org/advanced/new-life2/new-life2_8.html

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@michaelmaharlika8569 his commandments? We follow the commandments of Christ Jesus. Our Lord and Savior. Jesus is the one we follow.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@michaelmaharlika8569 we are under a new covenant and we are not under the law. Many things written in the law of Moses were not for us. Don't you see? Yes Jesus is God and he has given us his words to follow. That's why we are called servants of Christ. We serve Jesus. Not Moses.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@michaelmaharlika8569 now I get to see what kind of person you are as the legalistic side of you comes out. Yes, we are children of God when the Holy Spirit comes to reside within us and yet Paul still refers to himself often as a servant of Christ. Why is that? Because he is still our King and he is still our Lord. Christ is still Prophet, Priest and King. He is still our God.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

The devil is very crafty and deceptive. He has attacked the word of God since Genesis 3 when he told Eve," did God really say....?" There is only one true gospel and that is the gospel of grace, taught in the New Testament by Paul and the apostles. They define for us the words of our Savior and anything else comes from the pits of hell.

[@kennycouch6135]

The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

[@kennycouch6135]

As opposed to the blessing, which is grace, the Law is a curse upon all mankind, none of whom can possibly fulfill its requirements. While the Law itself is perfect and holy, those who try to justify themselves before its holy Author bring not His blessing, but His curse upon themselves. The Bible itself tells us what the curse of the Law is: “All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.’ Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, ‘the righteous will live by faith.’ The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, ‘The man who does these things will live by them.’ Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree’” (Galatians 3:10-13). What we must understand from this passage is that the curse is not the Law. The curse is the penalty levied for not keeping the Law. The “Book of the Law” refers to the covenant laws that God made with His people during the time of Moses. The Law can point out where we fail and fall short of God’s will, but it cannot pronounce us righteous; that was not its purpose. In Galatians 3 the apostle Paul is telling us that everyone who does not keep the Law perfectly is cursed by it (Deuteronomy 27:26; Galatians 3:10). The reason is that no one can obey the Law perfectly. In fact, there were over 600 laws the Jews had to keep to be right in the eyes of God. The breaking of even one commandment put a person under condemnation. Trying to achieve salvation through obedience to the Law is futile. For example, we all regularly break the first and greatest commandment by failing to love God first with all our hearts, minds and strength (Matthew 22:37-38). As a result, everyone has broken the commandments, and everyone is cursed. The Law demands perfection-an impossibility because we’re all sinful (Romans 3:10, 23). As a result, all who try to live by the Old Law were under a divine curse. But the good news is that Jesus Christ “redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us” (Galatians 3:13). Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice on the cross when He bore God’s curse. Paul explains how in his letter to the Romans: “God presented [Jesus] as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in His blood. He did this to demonstrate His justice, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished-He did it to demonstrate His justice at the present time, so as to be just and the One who justifies those who have faith in Jesus” (Romans 3:25-26). The curse of the Law fell on Christ on our behalf so that the righteousness of God could fall on us, though we did not deserve it (2 Corinthians 5:21).

[@ManlyServant]

**cough** deutoronomy 30:11 **coughh** **coughh**

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Galatians 2-------19-21 For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

[@YahuchananLewis-wz5eo]

Kĕpha Bĕt (2nd Peter) 3:14-18 [14] So then, beloved ones, looking forward to this, do your utmost to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, [15] and reckon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Sha’ul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, [16] as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures. [17] You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of the lawless, [18] but grow in the favour and knowledge of our Master and Saviour יהושע Messiah. To Him be the esteem both now and to a day that abides. Amĕin. This is what Paul believed: Ma`asei (Acts) 24:14 [14] “And this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I worship the Elohim of my fathers, believing all that has been written in the Torah and in the Prophets," And: Galatiyim (Galatians) 1:11-12 [11] And I make known to you, brothers, that the Good News announced by me is not according to man. [12] For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but through a revelation of יהושע Messiah. As you can see, Paul taught only what Yahweh and Yahushua told him to teach, and he never taught that we are saved by our own efforts. Eph`siyim (Ephesians) 2:8-9 For by favour you have been saved, through belief, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of Elohim, [9] it is not by works, so that no one should boast. Those of us who observe the Torah do so because we love Yahweh and not to become born again. As it is written: Yahuchanan (John) 15:9-10 [9] “As the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you. Stay in My love. [10] “If you guard My commands, you shall stay in My love even as I have guarded My Father’s commands and stay in His love. For those that say they are “under grace now” and are exempt from Torah obedience. Grace has always been given and only to those who want to love Yahweh through the righteousness of Yahushua, before and after his sacrifice. ​Shemoth (Exodus) [6] but showing (grace) to thousands, to those who love Me and guard My commands. Yes, we are saved by grace through faith and not our own efforts. That has always been true, both in Abraham's day and ours. Being saved by grace alone through faith does not exempt a believer from obedience after that moment in time that Yahweh saved us. The Torah is synonymous with God's Word. The Torah is His Love letter to us and instructs us on how to live a pleasing life before our Creator. The Torah is the way, the perfect truth (Psalm 19:7 & 119:142) and eternal. The Torah is light and life. Indeed, the Messiah is the living Torah who came down from heaven to live, die, and live again, for us, his Creation. While rebuking the religious leaders of his day, the Messiah pointed to the Torah when referring to himself. In the writings of Yahuchanan (John), chapter 5 and verse 6, He said this: “For if you believed Mosheh (Moses who delivered the Torah to God's people), you would have believed Me, since he wrote about Me. “But if you do not believe his writings, how shall you believe My words

[@kennycouch6135]

John is also clear on what commandments we are to follow in 1 John 3 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. The same commandment that Christ gave us in John 15. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another. Since John also wrote Revelation, we can be assured that the commandments he spoke of in Revelation are the same commandments he gave in 1 John 3. Nowhere in the New Testament does the bible command new covenant believers to keep OT law. Much to the contrary. There are many scripture verses that say we are no longer under the law when we come to Christ.

[@12GatesProductions]

Romans 8:2 [2]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. What does this mean, the law of sin and death? Where do you find New covenant believers in the scriptures?

[@kennycouch6135]

@@12GatesProductions I apologize because I don't have much time but here are some bible commentaries on Roman's 8:2 to help. biblehub.com/commentaries/romans/8-2.htm

[@kennycouch6135]

@@12GatesProductions and the new covenant. God bless bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/The-New-Covenant

[@mr.e1220]

@@kennycouch6135 we are not redeemed from God's Commandments! We are set free from the penalty or curse of the law. It is the law of sin and death that Christ redeemed us from. It is the curse of the law that was taken away, not the law itself. Just listen to the words of Our Lord in Matthew 5. He tells us plainly that not one jot or tittle of the law will pass away until Heaven and Earth pass away and all be fulfilled. If a person is loving God and loving their neighbor they will be led by the spirit and we'll walk in the Commandments of God. For it is not the hearers of the law that are made righteous but the doers of the law. Peter warns us of people that twist the writings of Paul. He calls them Lawless oh, just as our Lord tells us in Matthew 7 that many that go by the name of Christ or call themselves Christian on Judgement Day will be told they never knew him because they were workers of lawlessness. The New Covenant is written about and prophesied back in Ezekiel 36 and tells us that God will write his laws and Commandments on our hearts and give us a new heart and cause us to obey his Commandments and to walk in them. God doesn't write an abolished law on our hearts. Torah is definitely still in effect and will be until the new heavens and new earth.

[@kervinrobinkneshoa7213]

Roman's 3:31 do we then make the law void God forbid no we established the law

[@rev.j.rogerallen9328]

There are two types of law in the O.T. The Levitical law and the Moral law. The Levitical law was fulfilled in Christ but the Moral law is still in force.

[@boardingurban]

@abcdefg You look at scope. If the law points to Jesus, then it is sacrificial. If it doesn't point to Jesus as the Lamb of God on the cross, then it is moral.

[@kennycouch6135]

1 Corinthians The strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56) 2 Corinthians The law is a ministry of death. (2 Corinthians 3:7) The law is a ministry of condemnation. (2 Corinthians 3:9) The law has no glory at all in comparison with the New Covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:10) The law is fading away. (2 Corinthians 3:11) Anywhere the law is preached it produces a mind-hardening and a heart-hardening veil. (2 Corinthians 3:14-15)

[@charlescarter4587]

hey Kenny couch this what peter say bout Paul 2peter3;15-17 ,2 timothy 3;16 all scriptures is giving righteousness. i want you to know Paul kept the commandments and laws romans 7;22 22 For in my inner self I completely agree with God’s Torah; Acts21;20-2620 On hearing it, they praised God; but they also said to him, “You see, brother, how many tens of thousands of believers there are among the Judeans, and they are all zealots for the Torah. Acts24; 13 Nor can they give any proof of the things of which they are accusing me. 14 “But this I do admit to you: I worship the God of our fathers[b] in accordance with the Way (which they call a sect). I continue to believe everything that accords with the Torah and everything written in the Prophets; i hope u know satan against anyone who keeping Jesus commandments and laws 2 Thessalonians29 When this man who avoids Torah comes, the Adversary will give him the power to work all kinds of false miracles, signs and wonders. 10 He will enable him to deceive, in all kinds of wicked ways, those who are headed for destruction because they would not receive the love of the truth that could have saved them. 11 This is why God is causing them to go astray, so that they will believe the Lie. 12 The result will be that all who have not believed the truth, but have taken their pleasure in wickedness, will be condemned. Revelation12 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. isaiah28;9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. i want you to read different bibles compare each scriptures I Thessalonians5 21 But do test everything - hold onto what is good, i pray your eyes and heart open to what jesus say

[@barryblackwood6050]

Hi Kenny The power of sin to kill us, comes from the penalty established in God's instructions for wrongdoing. If you follow God's instructions by Faith as the New Creation it is God who writes His Instructions on your heart ....the new covenant to replace the one we all have broken in multiple ways. THE NEW COVENANT is described in the Prophets. Ezekiel 36 & Isaiah 31....... walking in God's statutes & keeping his ordinances are all standard reference to the body of God's Laws. It expressly says I will cause you to DO them! The New Covenant was actually given to Israel & gentiles are grafted into it to become ONE NEW MAN with the Jews who turn away from the false traditions & interpretations of Judaism & turn to God in Messiah/Christ. Eze 36:26-27 WEB 26 I will also give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit within you. I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes. You will keep my ordinances and do them. Nothing wrong with God's Law it wasn't changed our hearts were the problem. God overcomes that and removes the stony rebellious heart of sin to give us a heart of flesh that responds to be obedient to the new Instructions of righteousness as the old instruction to sin / disobedience is removed & we go through the veil into the holy of holies to perceive the way of Holiness which is obedience through gratefulness. God is holy ...no- one sees God without being clothed in holiness. Remember the story of the wise & the foolish virgins.?..The wise had oil for the lamps others didn't. The foolish were locked out after they ran around to fill their lamps. Oil is what gives light in scripture. The Word of God gives light & those practicing it just as Jesus did as example have light. Romans tells us, Jews and( with Law ) & Gentiles ( without Law ) are all judged by the Law of God. That means all mankind are judged by the same standard. Just as Eccliastes in the last chapter does. Some will have faith & be obedient to the instructions others won't. Jews thought they were saved because they were Jewish but the principal is....faith in God means to live in His ways or you are breaking covenant. Covenant is the relationship where the mercy that we received is established in us more so we understand God's eternal truth in our new actions of the Eternal Kingdom as potential citizens of Heaven. We all should be humble & have repentant hearts. Paul says to walk out our salvation with fear & trembling & to run the race according to the rules to receive the price. Christ lived & taught obedience. Any place you think Jesus did otherwise you will find when you study Judaism that the traditions of Judaism were what Jesus opposed when they puffed up the hypocrites with false handwashing rituals or made it illegal to eat with a gentile and/ or actually misrepresented God's Law to make it a burden for the people or made God's Law of none effect. Must go now. Bye FJ

[@ManlyServant]

lol the verses doesnt say anything you say it says

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

John 14-------- 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him." Christ commands us to follow his word. Moses was for Israel. Christ is for us.

[@thomastaylor6963]

The law points us to Christ. Not the other way around. We are under the covenant of grace.

[@areafifty]

And the jews are under a covenant with God. Do you think that gets any of us into heaven? You see the fundemental difference between judaism and religion is this. Religion is all about what we can get from God. Health, wealth, with enough faith perhaps eternal life. Judaism on the other hand is all about what God needs from this world. Judaism is about being selfless. It's about what service we can do for each other. When was the last thing you did something for god, not because it made you feel good, not because it was easy, but for no other reason than.that God told you to do it? I'm not remotely worried about being saved, heaven or hell. None of that is any of my business and I'm supposed to be serving God, not serving myself. God has blessed me beyond my wildest dreams and most of it I recieved without asking. I derive joy from denying materialism and immersing myself in Torah. From doing service for others even if I don't like them. Why would God do anything for me if I haven't earned it? Why would God give me anything if all I do is ask what he can do for me? And why on Earth would God forgive me for praying to him in the name of a man? That's idolatry, I'm not pulling it out of thin air, I invite you to study the laws of idolatry laid out by the Torah before you argue with me over that. Just look at them. I don't expect you to believe them any more than I believe a man can take on another man's sin. Just look at them, and understand they come God. The same God who gave you the 10 Commandments. Do you know what it means to hold no other gods before him? Its not just religious figures. It can be anything. Simply trying visualize God when we pray is idolatry. It heretical to put limits on God. God is not a man that he should lie. Remember that. God is not a man and never will be. Being created in the image of God has nothing to do with physicality and absolutely everything to do with our spiritual image. God is infinite so how can we resemble infinity. It means that he created us with the ability to create. It's something completely unique to mankind and incredibly valuable. No other beings have that ability except for God. Another point I must bring up is why on earth does anybody believe that God changes his mind? He has never changed his mind about anything except for destruction which he promises if we don't repent. He isn't changing his mind, in fact he keeps to his word. If the people don't repent they will be destroyed, if they do they won't be destroyed. Everything else in Torah is positive commandments and he has never changed his mind on those nor will he. Simply suggesting he's infallible and does not forsee the future is heresy and idolatry. I can bear witness to you before the world that God himself said that if somebody tells you the law is changed he is a false prophet and you shall not believe him nor fear him. Let me emphasize that I didn't say that. God said that out loud to the entire world and all of them heard it. If you believe God changed his mind about the laws, you are calling God a liar

[@thomastaylor6963]

@@areafifty I don't believe I'm wrong and I don't believe you are taking the Bible for what it says. Read Ephesians 2:8,9 and come back and we can talk.

[@areafifty]

@@thomastaylor6963 You're missing the point that the Torah is God's revelation to the world, not some set of exclusively Jewish laws. God makes it clear that Gentiles would one day come into the faith the He established with Israel. The Gentiles were never to have some new faith set apart from Israel (Yeshyahu 54:1-3) Paul actually reiterates this in Ephesians 2:10-12 where he says Gentile believers are no longer strangers to the covenant and ordinances of Israel.

[@areafifty]

Guess I happen to understand it a bit more than you expected me to

[@thomastaylor6963]

@@areafifty 1 Timothy 1:9,10- yes the law has a purpose and it is for unbelievers.

[@lizaa.1443]

If as Christians we are under the new covenant to love on another... my question is how much? Will Jesus NOT pay the penalty for those of us who may NOT have ENOUGH love for others? HOW much shall we love them? How much is enough love that we have to feel and exercise in our lives to be welcomed by God unto heaven when our earthly life ends? This is where I see works of love and service to others become a form of people working out their own salvation, after they understand and accept the free gift of what Jesus did on the cross for them. It seems natural that those who understand and accept the gift of Jesus’s act of love for them... a person naturally would want to love God back and pass that love on. But there still will be times of selfishness and other sins. It’s scary when I hear Christians talk about acts of love like they’ve acquired a certain amount like notches in their belts for salvation. When we think that way it takes Jesus off the thrown of being the very sacrifice for us that he was, for our salvation. We don’t earn our salvation by our actions but rather by the acceptance and belief in who he is and what he did, acknowledging our inability to follow the law and not sin. The whole old testament proved that it was impossible to not sin, it was impossible to follow all the laws and commands. God saw our problem and provided the solution in Jesus. Confessing this truth and accepting the free gift compels us to love.

[@6969smurfy]

Sorry, you can not be called brother or sisters if your promoting lawlessness! That is exactly 18l0 degrees off, your upside-down on how to love the father & the son.

[@kennycouch6135]

In the end the only thing that matters is what God's word says. Everything else is secondary. Cultists seem right, on the surface, until you dig deeper into what they're saying. Thankfully, for us as Christians, we have the Holy Spirit guarding our soul and keeping us from falling prey to doctrines of demons.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Spurgeon- Galatians 2:21. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. If a man can be saved by his own works, and willings, and doings, then Christ’s death was an unnecessary piece of torture; and, instead of being the most glorious manifestation of divine love, it was a shameful waste, putting upon Christ a terrible burden of suffering which was totally unnecessary.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

2 Corinthians 3--------10-11 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

Galatians 3:11-18 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for "the just shall live by faith." 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but "the man who does them shall live by them." 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15 Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man's covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. 16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, "And to seeds," as of many, but as of one, "And to your Seed," who is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect. 18 For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

[@steveparks2976]

We are children of Abraham by faith. We are justified by faith. Paul is very clear.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

2 Corinthians 3-------7-9 Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory.

[@jesusistheanswer9998]

Galatians 3:19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. 1- the law was put in place until the Seed would come and that Seed is Jesus. 2- the law points us to the promise of the Messiah who would one day come and free his people from the bondage of sin and make his people holy. 3- the law could not make us righteous but the Seed could. 4- the law was there to point us to Christ 5- once we have put our faith in Christ we are no longer under the law and we are under grace. 6 we are made children of Abraham by faith and we are made righteous before God by faith in Jesus Christ

[@Zion-jw3gm]

You began by ommiting the fact there was a Law that was ADDED, to what exactly? Without understanding this little detail your conclusion is completely wrong

[@jesusistheanswer9998]

@@Zion-jw3gm so how exactly am I supposed to take your opinion on what the bible says when you don't believe that Jesus is God according to what the bible says? You really think I would take your interpretation of the bible when you don't even believe in who Jesus is?

[@Zion-jw3gm]

@@jesusistheanswer9998 I really don't know where you got that idea. Search my words and find the things you accuse me of if you can.

[@jesusistheanswer9998]

@@Zion-jw3gm what? you think I don't read the comments under other people's comments? you must be kidding. I'm not a fool.

[@Zion-jw3gm]

@@jesusistheanswer9998 So then it should be easy for you to back up the things you accuse me of right?

[@John-lm6rs]

1 John 4 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us. 20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.

[@paeng46]

John 316 Then keep doing the Lord’s teachings and commandments.

[@John-lm6rs]

@@paeng46 1 John 3:23

[@paeng46]

John 316 You got it right.

[@John-lm6rs]

@@paeng46 amen!

[@kennycouch6135]

What the bible says about this is clear. It's not about what we want the bible to say. Its about what it says and us receiving it because it is the word of God. Galatians 2 Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me. 2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated to them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to those who were of reputation, lest by any means I might run, or had run, in vain. 3 Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you. Paul contended with the judaizers and did not yield to them.

[@RobertA-oi6hw]

We must always go by what the Bible says and not what people think it should say. The Bible is very clear in that we are not under Old Testament law anymore as Christians. Simple as that. Anyone who tries to put you under the yoke of the bondage of the law is leading you away from the gospel that is preached in the Bible by the apostles. 1 Timothy 1:9,10 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.

[@Dwbolan77]

Read the versus before it.. The Context is speaking about a a counterfeit righteousness that some were showing...

[@RobertA-oi6hw]

Dennis Bolan this verse is very plain in what it says. If someone has a counterfeit righteousness then they do not belong to Christ and they are unrighteous and are judged by the law.

[@kennycouch6135]

Godie Sumwhere so what you're saying is that people who are not Christians don't break God's law? Really? Listen to what you're saying.

[@kennycouch6135]

Godie Sumwhere I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick with what the scripture above says because the Bible is our source. The law is for unbelievers not believers. Paul obviously wanted Timothy to teach that to his church so if that's what he wanted Timothy to teach, then that is what he wants us to teach.

[@kennycouch6135]

Godie Sumwhere you have no idea about my walk with God so you can't say probably anything. Quite frankly you should be more concerned with your own heart since you decided that you don't want to listen to what the Bible says. Following a set of rules and regulations doesn't get you to heaven. Faith does. If you have a problem with that you should go talk to the Apostle Paul.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Romans 3------ 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

[@TatureBud]

You are right. We are not made rightious by the works of the law. But we obey his commandments because we love him

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

@@TatureBud and what are HIS commandments? 1 John 3:23 Galatians 5:14 John 13:34,35

[@TatureBud]

@@IAMhassentyou-h5w His commandments in the Torah Deuteronomy 6:24-25

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

@@TatureBud maybe you didn't get the memo but Christian's follow the new testament and this is a Christian video.

[@TatureBud]

@@IAMhassentyou-h5w so you neglected the commandments of God?

[@kennycouch6135]

There is nobody righteous before God. All alike are under the wrath of God, apart from Jesus Christ. Both Jew and Gentile. Romans 3:9-18 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin. 10 As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one; 11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. 12 They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one." 13 "Their throat is an open tomb; With their tongues they have practiced deceit"; "The poison of asps is under their lips"; 14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness." 15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood; 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways; 17 And the way of peace they have not known." 18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."

[@tresconswingyelalmasecreta7608]

Those Greeks are Israelites read the Bible carefully

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

2 ways of approaching the subject of holiness for a Christian: 1 newness of the Spirit 2 letter of the law 1 died with Christ/risen with Christ/dead to sin/new nature within/dead to the law/walk in the Spirit/Spirit empowers you to be holy 2 letter of the law brings awareness of sin/condemnation/awakens sin within us/causes us to sin even more/brings about pride/brings about judgementalism/brings about self righteousness

[@steelcity6420]

That's well put.

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

Yes! That about sums it up. That was done very well.

[@ronbanks1541]

For all have sin and fall short of the glory of God. We are all sinners. What defines sin? Transgression of the law. The law remains so we remain under grace. To be holy means to be set aside for spiritual, sacred purposes. There were items in the temple considered holy. Did they have a new nature? We’re they sinless? They were set apart for sacred purposes. What are we set aside for? To represent Jesus. To be priests and kings/queens for God.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@ronbanks1541 the law remains for ungodly, to show them the error of their ways (Galatians 4). We remain under grace because of what Christ did on the cross (Ephesians 1,2). So, no. You are not correct.

[@ronbanks1541]

@@christtheonlyhope4578 what is the cause for the need of grace? We are saved by faith through grace. Saved from what? Sin. What is sin? It is transgression of the law. Remove the law, we have no need of grace.

[@jmonroe6125]

Christian's are not under the law of Moses. We are not Jewish. We are believers in Jesus Christ and in Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile. Galatians 3:28,29

[@kennycouch6135]

Galatians 2 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

Kenny Couch amen

[@younoob6693]

So according to those who said old testament is null and void and I kill can o pray to idols etc... Jesus said faith and following the commandments.

[@kennycouch6135]

Godie Sumwhere murder is mentioned in the New Testament as well so the answer is no. You can't just go murdering people. Does anyone on this site read the bible? Seriously. If people actually read the bible there wouldn't be a problem with this.

[@ermon7574]

@@kennycouch6135 John 14:15 (KJV) If ye love me, keep my commandments. Jesus said that

[@kennycouch6135]

tommy 1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. Those are the commandments that we are to follow. John never mentions following Old Testament law in his book. We are under the law of Christ.

[@dimwithuka999]

1. Thou shall have no other gods before God. 2. Thou shalt not bow down to graven images / Idols 3. Do not misuse the name of God 4. Remember the Sabbath day to keep (not to make it) holy. 5. Honor your father and mother that your days may be long. 6. Do not commit murder. 7. Do not commit sexual immorality. 8. Do not steal! 9. Do not bear false witness against your neighbor. 10. Do not covet your neighbor's wife and household. These are the commandments that define what sin is and they are the commandments that Messiah died to atone for. Do you see anything wrong with the holy Law? Nothing! These are basic principles that define a godly people. We don't observe the Laws in order to be saved but because we are Kingdom citizens - Law abiding citizens of the heavenly kingdom! To learn more, do a careful study of the Heavenly Sanctuary and the Earthly Sanctuary. You will be shocked how lost Christians are on this cardinal issue!

[@bobreese4807]

99% of Christian preachers do not support #4. They are JESUS rejecting modern heretic PHARISEES

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

Galatians 3:1-10 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? 2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have you suffered so many things in vain -- if indeed it was in vain? 5 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? -- God's Covenant with Abraham 6 just as Abraham "believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed." 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them."

[@John-lm6rs]

Strong language from the Apostle Paul in his warning!

[@duanerichards9404]

Righteousness does not come from keeping the Ten Commandments or any Old Testament law. The New Covenant is clear. We are saved by grace through faith and made righteous initially through what Christ did on the cross. By the blood of Jesus. Then the Holy Spirit daily sanctifies us as believers. There is no mixing of Faith plus the law. Paul rebuked the Galatians for doing just that. We are justified by faith alone and anything else is a false teaching from a false teacher.

[@12GatesProductions]

That's not biblically sound sorry. You read that off a cereal box?

[@duanerichards9404]

@@12GatesProductions you think your funny dontcha?

[@duanerichards9404]

@@12GatesProductions I don't think things coming out of the bible should be made fun of but that's on you.

[@paeng46]

Duane Richards The proofs of your faith will rather show that you are a true believer in the Lord when you are doing the Lord’s teaching and commandments. This is how we know the true believers from the false ones- by their fruits (1 John 3:10, 4:21).

[@steveparks2976]

If Christian's were still bound to the law then Christ died for nothing. Some will say that the law of Christ is simply the old testament law repeated but look at what Christ said when he gave us his commandment in John 13. Vs. 34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. When God gave the command to love in Leviticus it said no such thing and there were penalties for not keeping it. Not only does Christ give us a "new commandment," not only is there no penalty and condemnation involved but we are to love as he loved us. Entirely different from the commandment given in Leviticus. The new testament law of Christ is wrapped up in loving as Christ loved us and gave himself for us on the cross. As he gave his all for us, we should give our all to others and bear one another's burdens as we see in Galatians 6:2. God bless. ☝🏻🙏🙂

[@brentbeatty4171]

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4 KJV bible.com/bible/1/1jn.2.4.KJV

[@steveparks2976]

@@brentbeatty4171 read 1 John 3:23 🙂

[@steveparks2976]

@abcdefg amen dear brother. That's why it is so important to understand all of the bible. Not just bits and pieces. Like, for instance, the gentleman who gave us 1 John 2. He took one verse and ran with it instead of looking at what the rest of 1 John says. The rest of the New Testament, for that matter. People are stuck in the Old Testament and they don't realize that we are in the New Testament now. God bless you brother.

[@barryblackwood6050]

LOOK up the word new in the GREEK there are two Greek words one means never before brand new and the other means refreshed as in overhauling your old engine makes in new again. IT may help you see the difference. Be blessed. FJ

[@steveparks2976]

@@barryblackwood6050 which word should I look up? 🙂

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Galatians 2--------- 16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

[@YahuchananLewis-wz5eo]

This is what Yahushua actually said in regards to who born again believers actually are (who you are unaware). Mattithyahu (Matthew) 15:24 [24] And He answering, said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Yisra’ĕl.” The Messiah is always in agreement with His Fathers Torah. Sh’mot (Exodus) 12:49 [49] There is one Torah for the native-born and for the stranger who sojourns among you. Paul agreed, of course. Eph`siyim (Ephesians) 2:11-13 TS2009 [11] Therefore remember that you, once nations (gentiles) in the flesh, who are called ‘the uncircumcision’ by what is called ‘the circumcision’ made in the flesh by hands, [12] that at that time you were without Messiah, excluded from the citizenship of Yisra’ĕl and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no expectation and without Elohim in the world. [13] But now in Messiah יהושע (Yahushua) you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of the Messiah.

[@dochollywood79]

Catholics use Mary as a way to say I can do anything like drink and party because mother marry loves and forgives me. Protestants use Jesus to say I can eat pork, worship on sunday because Christ did away with the law, But to worship in spirit and truth is to obey all the commandments, including the 4th which is to keep the sabbath. This is the sign between those whom love God and those who want to pick n choose.

[@bendover4668]

Jesus is God and he changed his old laws.

[@bobhutton1409]

In Acts chapter 10 we see a change in the laws as applied to diet. Also, Colossians 2 v 16 and 17 make it clear that certain O.T. laws were shadows of which Christ is the reality.

[@dochollywood79]

@@bendover4668 scripture says Yahovah does not change. Feel free to pick and choose what you obey put remember, sin is the transgression of the law, if you break one you are guilty of breaking all of them.

[@dochollywood79]

@@bobhutton1409 I agree, no more animal sacrifices or killing someone for breaking his laws, that is the grace, but Christ did not do away with His Laws. He fulfilled them not abolished them. What's really the difference between us and them is that Christ now wrote his laws in our hearts.

[@bendover4668]

@@dochollywood79 your assuming salvation isn’t forever. Theology is more than one answer.

[@zachariah9745]

This comment section is an example of why I struggle with religion… everyone saying this pastor is wrong or the commenters are wrong, blah blah blah. Even “Christians” can’t agree on the “truth” so how am I supposed to know what to believe….. Lord forgive me for my ignorance and transgressions, I pray you forgive me for failing to understand 🙏

[@kyleconnally4179]

To do truth is to practice what God commands. That's the biblical definition of truth. John 3:21 But he that practices what Yah commands, comes to the light, that his works may be seen, that they are established in Yah.

[@6969smurfy]

Look up these few words in the original text translation, Herbrew or the Aramaic, both preferably. Holy YAHshua/ salivation Love Sin This will Takes out all the religious and manned influences so you can decide foryour self.

[@rightyboywilson4911]

Seems like most the comments here are a very devote and vocal sect of Christianity that my guess is most people have never even heard of. I guess that's what happens when you give mankind 2000 years to bicker over the specifics of Christ's words. Best of luck to you with figuring things out friend.

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

The key is to pray to God for truth, to REALLY trust him for it, to earnestly search, and to be willing to be patient in getting it even allowing yourself to accept that you can and/or WILL be wrong and deceived at times in your journey.

[@krissysedlak7490]

@@youngknowledgeseeker YES!!! Humility is what you are describing and what it sounds like the author of this comment has.... praying the author of this comment will seek the face of Lord diligently.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved. Ephesians 2:4-5

[@micahwright1578]

But Jesus said He is not here to replace the law, right?

[@sugarbarrongriggs3962]

Jesus says if you love me you keep my fathers commands. Period. Anyone teaches to break the least of these will be considered least in the kingdom of heaven. I disagree with your argument. If you love you obey. And it’s beautiful !!!

[@samphonnetgamgee5625]

What do you think of Paul. He contradicts the whole Bible and Jesus. But everybody loves him more than Jesus.

[@VelvetyMoon]

@@samphonnetgamgee5625 does Yah contradict? Or is your perspective and interpretation incorrect? Yahuah never lies and He is not a God of confusion. Keep searching 💕 Ask for clarity. “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness” 2 Timothy 3:16 “For I the Lord do not change.” Malachi 3:6

[@2610paul]

Law according to the Apostle Paul was given so that it will reveal sin . in other words the law shows your need for redemption. And the redemption comes through the work of our Lord Jesus Christ on the cross.

[@2610paul]

@@samphonnetgamgee5625 The Apostle Paul is talking from a theological point of view. It is always his custom to expound the nature of Sin the nature of fallen man and what the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus means . What's the application ? How do we go about living our lives free from sin and the law that could not erradicate the punishment nor the enslavement and the pervasive power of Sin in the life of the believer. Only our precious dear Lord was able to handle it by His DEATH and RESURRECTION . So the believer whose only HOPE to attain righteousness (whether legally like a forensic declaration that the Protestant reformers acclaim followed by the sanctification process that breaks the power of Sin ) comes as we place our trust and hope in the finished work of our Lord on the cross and His mighty ressurected power working in our lives delivering us from not only the penalty but also the POWER of SIN and SATAN the WORLD and DEATH. The law can do NOTHING of these !!

[@lmt6672]

Jesus says to do the work of the father and what is that work John 6:29 says "the work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent"

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Romans 7--- 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another--to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

[@Chirhopher]

We are Not under the Condemnation of the Law; We are under the Obligation (or their would be No Sin) CHRIST Fulfilled the Law that We may Follow HIM, as we were all in Bondage to Sin and Satahn before, unable to Obey the Commands of GOD. Now, On CHRIST, We Fulfill The Beautiful n Holy LAW, just As IT IS Written!

[@doargietweitervandah]

@@Chirhopher NO! Christ forfilled the law not to be obey the 'old law' He forfilled the law so we don't have to anymore (dispencation of grace) the only law that remains is: love God above all else and thy neighbour as your own.

[@doargietweitervandah]

@@Chirhopher there ain't no sin in Jezus Christ. That's the whole point.

[@DG-mv6zw]

@@doargietweitervandah You're confusing the concept of justification with sanctification. A very dangerous error. Incidentally, you imply that the command to love God with all your heart and your neighbour as yourself is somehow the soft option. On the contrary, to fulfill the new law of Christ is far more demanding than the O.T laws. The law says do not murder but Christ says that hating someone is akin to murder. Likewise with the command against adultery. Christ said you've committed adultery when you look at someone with lust. These standards far outweigh the mosaic and levitical law!

[@truman5838]

@@Chirhopher Nope! Matthew 5:17-18-19 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for a single stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law. John 7:19 Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?” The old covenant / mosaic law won't be fulfilled until the Heaven and Earth pass away / disappear. Earth is still here. Therefore according to these scriptures we are still under the old covenant/mosaic law.

[@steveparks2976]

Acts 15- a very good passage that all christians should read. In that chapter the question is presented to the apostles on whether or not Christians are saved by keeping Old Testament law or required to keep Old Testament law. Paul and Barnabas argue with the legalists and bring the matter to the apostles in Jerusalem. The apostles in the end conclude that not only had they never taught the following of the Old Testament laws, but that they were not going to place the churches under that teaching at that time either. Following Old Testament laws was never part of what the apostles taught so if they didn't teach it, then why would you? The chapter also gives us a clearer understanding of the Epistles and lets us know that Peter Paul James and John, the authors of the New Testament, did not teach the following of Old Testament laws in their books. God bless

[@jenniferschmidt3051]

In the book of Acts, the question was NOT "what are we going to do with all these "Jews" who are coming to faith in the Gentile, Aryan "Jesus", who abolished the Law and upholds sin...but it was "what are we to do with all these Gentiles who are coming to faith in the Hebrew Messiah, the 'Lion of Yehudah', Yeshua"! You are correct, the question was taken to the leadership of the believing community in Jerusalem, and the decision was to give the Gentiles 4 stipulations for table fellowship with the Messianic Jews, (we are told that there were myriads and myriads of them and that they were "all zealous for the Law") and then, "for Moses is read/taught in the synagogues in every city on the Sabbath"...so the new Gentile believers could avail themselves of the teaching of the Torah, "line up on line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little", just as the Jews had learned it during the period of the Tanakh! The "Torah is/was a pedagogue/tutor to lead us to Messiah", NOT to show them that they COULD NOT KEEP it, but that they DID NOT KEEP IT, and that they could be forgiven and redeemed, bought back, and EMPOWERED/ENABLED to keep the Torah by the INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT! We are told, "for the Spirit was WITH you, but NOW will be IN you"! Messiah Yeshua UPHOLDS THE LAW OF YHVH AND ABOLISHED SIN! PERIOD! See the difference?! Baruch B'Shem Yeshua!

[@steveparks2976]

Jennifer Schmidt um no. In fact that is completely the opposite of what acts 15 is saying and just so anyone can see for themselves I am posting it below. www.christianity.com/bible/bible.php?q=Acts+15&ver=nkjv

[@steveparks2976]

Jennifer Schmidt your interpretation of Acts 15 is completely the opposite of what they are saying and what is taught throughout the New Testament. It's very plain to see when you go to acts 15 itself that the apostles opposed the teaching of the Old Testament law to believers. In fact in verse 24 itself the apostles say..... "Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised and keep the law"--to whom we gave no such commandment--" The apostles never commanded the early church to follow Old Testament law. Ever.

[@Zion-jw3gm]

@@steveparks2976 I know you don't yet understand this but the apostles were refeering rabbinic oral traditions of Judaism not the Torah requirments that they proceeded to ouline for new gentile believers.

[@steveparks2976]

@@Zion-jw3gm interesting that you would mention that as I've already done a video on it. 🙂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHOke4p3ppxjp7c

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

Romans 5--------20,21 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, 21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

[@steelcity6420]

This is the scriptures applied correctly. The law of Christ supersedes the law of Moses. Jesus Christ is greater than Moses and we are under a new covenant. The covenant of grace.

[@steelcity6420]

Devon Bailey the Old Testament law will not pass away because the Old Testament laws still relevant for unbelievers (1 Timothy 1:9,10). If you read the verses before that it says Jesus came to fulfill the law. That's exactly what he did. Because we could not keep the law perfectly but Christ could and did.

[@steelcity6420]

Devon Bailey 1st John is not talking about Old Testament law. Read 1st John 3:23.

[@steelcity6420]

Devon Bailey Christians are not under Old Testament law.

[@steelcity6420]

Devon Bailey it's not guesswork. The bible plainly tells us what John is talking about and if you want a list of sins, sins are given in the New Testament. We don't have to look to the Old Testament to see what sin is.

[@steelcity6420]

In the Roman Empire people were executed because they followed Christ and didn't follow Roman Catholic tradition.

[@kennycouch4091]

The New Covenant (or New Testament) is the promise that God makes with humanity that He will forgive sin and restore fellowship with those whose hearts are turned toward Him. Jesus Christ is the mediator of the New Covenant, and His death on the cross is the basis of the promise (Luke 22:20). The New Covenant was predicted while the Old Covenant was still in effect-the prophets Moses, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel all allude to the New Covenant. The Old Covenant that God had established with His people required strict obedience to the Mosaic Law. Because the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23), the Law required that Israel perform daily sacrifices in order to atone for sin. But Moses, through whom God established the Old Covenant, also anticipated the New Covenant. In one of his final addresses to the nation of Israel, Moses looks forward to a time when Israel would be given “a heart to understand” (Deuteronomy 29:4, ESV). Moses predicts that Israel would fail in keeping the Old Covenant (verses 22-28), but he then sees a time of restoration (30:1-5). At that time, Moses says, “The Lord your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live” (verse 6). The New Covenant involves a total change of heart so that God’s people are naturally pleasing to Him. The prophet Jeremiah also predicted the New Covenant. “‘The day will come,’ says the Lord, ‘when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah. . . . But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,’ says the Lord. ‘I will put my law in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people’” (Jeremiah 31:31, 33). Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:17) and to establish the New Covenant between God and His people. The Old Covenant was written in stone, but the New Covenant is written on our hearts. Entering the New Covenant is made possible only by faith in Christ, who shed His blood to take away the sins of the world (John 1:29). Luke 22:20relates how Jesus, at the Last Supper, takes the cup and says, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood” (ESV).

[@keikot4998]

1:28- We must read the Bible in terms of its "covenantal development." That is the study of biblical theology, which is necessary for us all to do in order to read the Bible in the way Christ intends for us.

[@CodeRed-md3ny]

Galatians 2:1-10 Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me. 2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated to them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to those who were of reputation, lest by any means I might run, or had run, in vain. 3 Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you. 6 But from those who seemed to be something--whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man--for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me. 7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter 8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), 9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do.

[@barryblackwood6050]

Hope you also remember Paul also did circumcise. (Timothy I think. His mother was Jewish). Can you figure out the difference between circumcision & circumcision? You who want to do the Law do you not read the Law. One circumcision was God given for gentiles to draw near to God.....to worship at the Pesach ( our Passover Lamb is Christ ) The other was a manmade ordinance of Proselytism that said you were saved if you became a Jewish citizen. That procedure was not by faith in God's Way it was called being circumcised & applied to both men & women who agreed to take on the Law of Moses (written Law from God)& the Traditions of Moses (oral Law decrees of men) ) So most Christians miss one Circumcision doesn't separate us from Christ & to be other one does. Blessings.

[@barryblackwood6050]

@@trafficjon400 There is biblical circumcision that Abraham did & then there is the common language of that era that described people in 2 categories. Of the Circumcision or uncircumcised. The first meant to be a Jew. IE considered a member of Jewish society. The other meant to be a gentile & without Salvation. Judaism still insists a person must become a Jew to be saved which is the Proselyte process to become "of the Circumcision". In Christ it is just like Abraham.. faith first. God grants approval & then you do Genesis 26:5 Gen 26:5 KJV Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. Abraham offered up Isaac & performed circumcision as obedience which is the action of faith.

[@trafficjon400]

@@barryblackwood6050 i KNOW WHAT SENSE ONE GETS OUT OF IT. believe til we rot dead. thats what we get. Be then leave BELIEVE.

[@barryblackwood6050]

@@trafficjon400 not real interested. As you make no sense. Sorry.

[@trafficjon400]

@@barryblackwood6050 Well mabe this will? not interested in your way's of a million other ways of the great Book that fails many who read it running with contradictions and christians voiding the fact by thinking through thier teeth.

[@kennycouch6135]

The law brought death to Adam and Eve. They could not keep it. It brought death to Paul he could not keep it. The Old Testament is proof that Israel could not keep it. The law brings about wrath. Only through obedience to Christ, through the power of the Holy Spirit can we be made sanctified before a righteous God. Roman's 8 says: For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. What does this righteousness from Christ produce in us? The fruits of the Spirit. Galatians 5 says: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Roman's 5 tells us that grace from God comes from faith in Jesus Christ. It says: Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, Galatians 5 tells us that a person falls from grace when they try to be made righteous by keeping the law: You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

[@edwardgovere8879]

Christ is the end of the Law What is the Law? These are set of laws, statues, commandments and precepts given to Israel by God through an angel on their way out of Egypt to Canaan. The first of these laws is the law of the Passover which was given in Exodus 12:1-14. There are ten commandments which were written in two tables of stone, there are laws concerning judgments of civil and criminal cases, there are laws guiding Israelites in worshiping God, laws of foods; clothings;farming etc. This package of Laws were given through Moses who is the testator of the old covenant Testament therefore they are sometimes called the laws of Moses, they are often just called Moses as in John 5:45-47. These laws were enforced, taught and explained to the people of Israel by ministers from the tribe of Levi, which are called the levitical priesthood. you could not preach the law if you are not from the tribe of levi. let me also iron out that levites were not ordained in a professional way after having graduated from a theological college: No!, they were anointed, consecrated and taught the order of divine service by their predecessors, But they are descendants of Levi who is Jacob's third born. Principally speaking it would be serial foolishness to find today a gentile African, American or other non Jew calling themselves Levites! there is no college under the sun which trains people to belong to the Obama family! Tithing, sabbath day worship, first fruits offerings, feast of tabernacles, Purim etc were holy convocation meetings instructed Israel to observe. they would observe these gatherings under the leadership of this Levitical Priesthood. (Leviticus 23:1-44) Those who give certain lewd fellows of the baser sort (Acts 17:10) their hard earned money as tithes are not only throwing their money thoughtlessly into spiritual fraudsters' pockets, but they are also blaspheming the grace of God, they are spitting on the face of Jesus Christ our testator of a new covenant. But what is the truth? Are the Seventh Day Adventists wrong in observing the sabbath day? Should we pay tithe?, to who? what Does the bible say about these issues? "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God" Romans 3:19 "Therefore by the deeds of the law {which are the sabbath worship, tithing, the feast of unleavened bread, the feast of tabernacles etc} SHALL NO FLESH BE JUSTIFIED IN HIS SIGHT: FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN " Romans 3:20 T loophree things are learnt in these scriptures: 1) Only Israel was under the law, so they only were obliged to submit to the precepts of the law 2) the only achievement of the law was to make its subjects guilty before God 3)Nobody could ever be justified before God by observing the law. "For Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Romans 10:4 "But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. but before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we must be justified by faith [ take note, note by the law]. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster [the law]" Galatians 3:22-25 The Jews, from whom Paul came, were under a school master called the law which schoolmaster was to take them to Christ, now that faith came with Christ they are no longer under the law! But where do we the gentiles fit in, with all this confusion? "wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called the Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands. That at the time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, and having no hope, and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were afar off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." Ephesians 2:11-13 We were strangers from the covenant of promise, the old testament covenant; we have NEVER BEEN A PART OF THE OLD TESTAMENT!. We are saved by the blood of Jesus, which means we join the testament of Grace, Faith and love, we have no access to the laws of Moses! is the law of Moses still functional in its initial concepts? No! Christ is the end of the Law remember? The Levitical priesthood was fired from the priesthood duties, ",If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." Hebrews 7:11-12 The priesthood changed, Levi and his brethren were fired and Jesus Christ came in as the priest in the order of Melchisedec, and when the priesthood was changed, the law was of necessity changed also! read the rest of the book of hebrews 7 "For if the first covenant [the Old Testament] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second." Hebrews 8:7 tithing was found with fault and so was sabbath, feasts, offerings given under the law, the levitical priesthood, that is why a place was found for the New Testament to replace it! What does the bible say to those who observe only one commandment from the law of Moses, like the SDAs? "For as many as are under the works of the law are under a curse:for it is written , Cursed is everyone that continueth not in ALL THINGS written in the book of the law to do them" Galatians 3:10 "For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect to you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." Galatians 5:3-4 Did you hear that?, that if you try to do one aspect of the law: A) You are a debtor to do/ follow all the 613 laws in the book of the law. B) if you pay tithe, if you observe the sabbath etc, you are cursed because you are not doing the whole law C) Christ is become of no effect to you, { did you read that?} D) You have fallen from grace Why, why does the apostle Paul say such heavy words to this subject? "I am crucified with Christ:nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I DO NOT FRUSTRATE THE GRACE OF GOD:FOR IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COME BY THE LAW, THEN CHRIST DIED IN VAIN." Galatians 2:20-21 I have written verse 21 in capital letters to highlight the magnitude of the offenses we commit if we try to adhere to any precept of the law! Those of you who are observing the passover, you are ignorant of 1 Corinthians 5:7 which says that Christ is our passover lamb who was slain already for our transgressions, you are frustrating the grace of God, you are saying that Jesus died in vain. everybody, male or female, young and old minister or church congregant who pays or receives tithes you are frustrating the grace of God, you are saying Jesus Christ wasted himself on the cross after all we can please God by our own works! [i shall continue with these teachings of differentiating the law from grace if God permits. in the meantime i want you to read the following scriptures Romans 5 Romans 4 Romans 13:8- Hebrews 9 and 10 2 Corinthians 3 and 4

[@kennycouch6135]

Amen! Great post!

[@Zion-jw3gm]

There's so much mis-interpretation here It's not worth the rebuttal. To begin with, Gentiles by spiritual adoption of the Spirit are born into and grafted into the common wealth of ISREAL and for whom no difference is made concerning the requirments of the Law/ Torah/ Instructions in righteous setapart living. That is a walk of Faith in the most high. Gentiles are NOT exempt from ESTABLISHING the Law after being saved by Grace through faith in the sacrifice made for Sin. I'll stop here.

[@Zion-jw3gm]

Total nonse.. man's wisdom.

[@kennycouch6135]

@@Zion-jw3gm to the contrary brother. Christ is the end of the law according to Romans 10:4 just as he said he would be the fulfillment of the law and in Hebrews 8 we see that there is a difference between the Old and New Covenants and the relationship that it has with believers.

[@kennycouch6135]

@@Zion-jw3gm the law reveals sin but cannot fix sin. That's why Paul says we are not under law but under grace. THAT is what the gospel teaches.

[@YahuchananLewis-wz5eo]

I remember sitting in church from 1994 to 2004, scratching my head and wondering, "What about the rest of the story?" 😢 I would go home empty and full of questions. Questions the pastor never addressed in the first place, such as, "Why did the Messiah teach Torah observance (Matthew 5:19), but the church does not??" 😮 One bright day (figuratively speaking as it was drizzling rain that afternoon) at a christian music concert roughly 20 years ago a brother in Messiah pointed me in the right direction and told me the Sabbath falls on Saturday, not Sunday. It was like he flipped on a light switch in a dark room. He then shared the location of a local Congregation that was Torah observant. After being among Messianic congregants and in a Messianic Congregation for roughly 5-7 years back in 2014 ten years ago, Rabbi Lancaster mentioned the following during a teaching that resonated with me in a way which it had not before. He said, in regards to the Torah commands, "look at this command, you can do it, and this command, it is not too hard for you." TBH, it was the most refreshing statement I had heard in a very long time! He reminded me of these verses: D'varim (Deuteronomy) 30:11-17 [11] “For this command which I am commanding you today, it is not too hard for you, nor is it far off. [12] “It is not in the heavens, to say, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?’ [13] Nor is it beyond the sea, to say, ‘Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?’ ” [14] “For the Word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart - to do it. [15] See, I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil,” [16] in that I am commanding you today to love יהוה your Elohim, to walk in His ways, and to guard His commands, and His laws, and His right-rulings. And you shall live and increase, and יהוה your Elohim shall bless you in the land which you go to possess. [17] “But if your heart turns away, and you do not obey, and shall be drawn away, and shall bow down to other mighty ones and serve them," The church often teaches that the commands are too difficult and that we cannot keep them. That if we try, we will inevitably fail. 😢

[@YahuchananLewis-wz5eo]

Yahushua said this about the (Torah) commands which perfectly aligns with everything His Father said:: Mattithyahu (Matthew) 5:17-20, 2 [17] Do not think that I came to destroy (make the commands obsolete) the Torah or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to complete (renew). [18] For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one yod or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done. [19] “Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens. [20] For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens. H of Scripture such as Jeremiah 31:31-33. This word châdash means, “to be renewed.” חדשׁ châdash BDB Definition H2318: 1) to be new, renew, repair 1a) (Piel) 1a1) to renew, make anew 1a2) to repair Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah) 31:31-33 TS2009 “See, the days are coming,” declares יהוה, “when I shall make a renewed covenant with the house of Yisra’ĕl and with the house of Yehuḏah, not like the covenant I made with their fathers in the day when I strengthened their hand to bring them out of the land of Mitzrayim (Egypt), My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them,” declares Yahweh. For this is the covenant I shall make with the house of Yisra’ĕl after those days, declares (Yahweh) יהוה: I shall put My Torah in their inward parts, and write it on their hearts. And I shall be their Elohim (God), and they shall be My people.” To further prove this point, please consider what the Messiah said in Yahuchanan (John) 12:48-50 [48] He who rejects Me, and does not receive My Words, has one who judges him: the Word that I have spoken shall judge him in the last day. [49] “Because I spoke not from Myself, but the Father who sent Me has given Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. [50] “And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, as the Father has said to Me, so I speak.” As you can plainly read, Messiah not only told us that He is speaking on His Fathers behalf alone (using the Torah), but the Torah commands are life. Yahweh and Yahushua obviously disagree with those who teach that the Torah is now obsolete, only for a specific group of people and only for a certain time that is now in the past. Nowhere in the Torah are we told that the commands are optional and that a new religion called Christianity would replace Judaism once the Messiah redeemed Israel and began to ransom the 10 lost tribes through the Good News. Since Yahweh and Yahushua are not cruel and sadistic liars, they would never say such things and then tell us the Torah commands are too difficult, only for a time, and that we should not even try to be obedient to the commands or that only certain commands apply..

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

So sad to see people misinterpreting the bible. Scripture, to be properly understood, needs to be taken as a whole. Not in part. So many people here have taken one verse and ran with it and taking it completely out if context. Making an eisegesis of the word instead of an exegesis of it. In other words, taking scripture in context and in light of other scripture. That is why confusion exists about so many things in the bible. In light of all scripture, the law is already fulfilled in us when we receive the Holy Spirit after we gave given our heart to Jesus. We are not required to fulfill the law because Christ has already done that. He fulfilled all things in the Old Testament. We are now righteous before him with imputed righteousness. We are not trying every day to be right with God because when we have put our faith in Jesus Christ we are already at peace with God. We seek holiness in sanctification to please him and bring glory to his name. That cannot be done by keeping the law. It comes only through faith in Christ.

[@tabasco7915]

Amen! Amen! Amen! Love my brothers and sisters in Christ. Phil 3:14-16 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you. Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@tabasco7915 Amen my friend! God bless you.

[@Gin77788]

This makes sense. And makes me get a new understanding of Romans 6:8 "Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him." I find our sin nature makes it impossible to follow all laws and Jesus has given us a way out of the bondage of sin through grace and faith. I pray we all may be forgiven for our short comings. Romans 3:23"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

[@tabasco7915]

@@Gin77788 Amen my friend, Amen!

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

@@Gin77788 Amen sister

[@magandangaraw5492]

Christians are not "under" the law. Not only do Old Testament penalties not apply but Jesus Christ fulfilled the moral code of the law, being sinless in his flesh and covers us in his righteousness.

[@areafifty]

jc never fulfilled ANY messianic prophecies. That's why the christians had to say he was resurrected and will come back to fulfill them. The odd thing is that Jesus was resurrected in secret. Nobody saw him except, conveniently the people who realized they were screwed when their 'messiah' died

[@magandangaraw5492]

@@areafifty such filthy lies from the pits of hell. www.about-jesus.org/messianic.htm

[@magandangaraw5492]

@@areafifty the devil is a liar and you have the spirit of the antichrist . jewsforjesus.org/answers/top-40-most-helpful-messianic-prophecies/

[@magandangaraw5492]

@Sharon Novak a couple different questions you asked there but what it really comes down to is the Holy Spirit in my life. How the Holy Spirit has changed me and filled me and healed me. Where I was before and where I am now. We know God's words are true because he proves himself to us as christians everyday. I know where I was and where I am now.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@Sharon Novak thanks. You too. 😊

[@obtainhumanity3434]

Matthew 5:17-20 that right there proves that there is no new law, hes just fulfilling it. The law is here on this earth to do what's good and to prevent us from doing bad things, the law doesn't get us to heaven but if you keep the covenant, you will receive many blessings. Jesus only gave us salvation, a way to talk God through his name, and a way for us to enter heaven. It even says to keep the commandments in revelation. Rev 12:17 and 14:12. And Galatians 3:10 is Paul explaining that the law is a curse because it doesn't get you to heaven but you will be cursed on this earth if you dont keep them but you can still enter heaven if you have Jesus inside you. I'm sorry, but the law still applies.

[@obtainhumanity3434]

@abcdefg Lol you are going all out. Your a bad example on how a bible should be used. Your using it out of a debate which the bible should be used as a guideline. Roman's 10:4 that verse is meaning that Christ is the end of the law cause he fulfilled it which means he put that last finishing touch In the commandments and giving it to us to follow if you want to keep being blessed. So if you want to keep trying to prove your point go right ahead. I'm a covenant keeper and I have Jesus inside me. I believe on what the bible says and not what the video says.

[@obtainhumanity3434]

@abcdefg now you got to much spirit of religion in you. I dont believe in religion because stuff like this happens. I ain't jewish nor I ain't Christian. I'm a child of God that believes based off what the bible says. Btw Jesus was a Jew, if you think the old testament only apply to Jews, then why are people Jesus didnt kept it but then tell me that the old testament tells me it's only for Jews. Idk if you believe in Jesus and he kept the old testament, I would to. That's up to you.

[@IAMhassentyou-h5w]

John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

[@ashfair8749]

Sir, your argument to not keep the law is invalid. The new covenant location changed- not the law itself-It moves from tablets of stones to heart of flesh. Location changes- NOT content. Shalom

[@scented-leafpelargonium3366]

@ashfair8749 : One of the best explanations I have heard. 🤗 Well done and thank you! Shalom 🕊

[@eztactical]

Matthew 5 17“Do not think that I came to abolish the Torah or the Prophets! I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. 18Amen, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or serif shall ever pass away from the Torah until all things come to pass. 19Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever keeps and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

[@anthonykloppers3377]

These 3 sentences trump all and every argument against keeping all of God's commandments. And they were spoken just before the sermon on mount, almost like a disclaimer for those willing to read the sermon on the mount and say - you see , you see Jesus is doing away with those things LOL.

[@pastorpresent1134]

A FEW WORDS ABOUT GRACE by William R. Newell The Nature of Grace Grace is God acting freely, according to His own nature -- as Love; with no promises or obligations to fulfill; and acting of course, righteously -- in view of the cross. Grace, therefore, is uncaused in the recipient: its cause lies wholly in the GIVER, in GOD. Grace, also is sovereign. Not having debts to pay, or fulfilled conditions on man's part to wait for, it can act toward whom, and how, it pleases. It can, and does, often, place the worst deservers in the highest favors. Grace cannot act where there is either desert or ability: Grace does not help -- it is absolute, it does all. There being no cause in the creature why Grace should be shown, the creature must be brought off from trying to give cause to God for His Grace. The discovery by the creature that he is truly the object of Divine grace, works the utmost humility: for the receiver of grace is brought to know his own absolute unworthiness, and his complete inability to attain worthiness: yet he finds himself blessed -- on another principle, outside of himself! Therefore, flesh has no place in the plan of Grace. This is the great reason why Grace is hated by the proud natural mind of man. But for this very reason, the true believer rejoices! For he knows that "in him, that is, in his flesh, is no good thing"; and yet he finds God glad to bless him, just as he is! The Place of Man under Grace He has been accepted in Christ, who is his standing! He is not "on probation." As to his life past, it does not exist before God: he died at the Cross, and Christ is his life. Grace, once bestowed, is not withdrawn: for God knew all the human exigencies (needs) beforehand: His action was independent of them, not dependent upon them. The failure of devotion does not cause the withdrawal of bestowed grace (as it would under law). For example: the man in I Cor. 5.1-5; and also those in 11.30-32, who did not "judge" themselves, and so were "judged by the Lord, -- that they might not be condemned with the world"! The Proper Attitude of Man under Grace To believe, and to consent to be loved while unworthy, is the great secret. To refuse to make "resolutions" and "vows"; for that, is to trust in the flesh. To expect to be blessed, though realizing more and more lack of worth. To testify of God's goodness, at all times. To be certain of God's future favor; yet to be ever more tender in conscience toward Him. To rely on God's chastening hand as a mark of His kindness. A man under grace, if like Paul, has no burden regarding himself; but many about others. Things Which Gracious Souls Discover To "hope to be better" is to fail to see yourself in Christ only. To be disappointed with yourself, is to have believed in yourself. To be discouraged is unbelief, -- as to God's purpose and plan of blessing for you. To be proud, is to be blind! For we have no standing before God, in ourselves. The lack of Divine blessing, therefore, comes from unbelief, and not from failure of devotion. Real devotion to God arises, not from man's will to show it; but from the discovery that blessing has been received from God while we were yet unworthy and undevoted. To preach devotion first, and blessing second, is to reverse God's order, and preach law, not grace. The Law made man's blessing depend on devotion; Grace confers undeserved, unconditional blessing: our devotion may follow, but does not always do so, -- in proper measure. (Newell) By Grace Through Faith Eph 2:1-3 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. Eph 2:4-7 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. Eph 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Eph 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them..

[@magandangaraw5492]

Christian's are in the New covenant. Testament means covenant and the blood Jesus shed initiated that covenant (Luke 22:20). We are under the grace of God. The law of Christ is what we fall under. He is our Lord. He is our Master. He is our God and we obey him. 1 John 3:23 and Romans 13:9,10 explain it for us very simply. Love is the fulfillment of all the law.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@Zz Z you are clearly misinterpreting Paul's intentions in Acts. We have to also look at what he taught. You seem to be ignoring that part and to fully understand the word we cannot do that. So it is not me who is lost.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@Zz Z Galatians 1 No Other Gospel 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. They (the Galatians) were turning away, from the truth, to a different gospel. Paul did not say, 'You have turned away'. He had identified false doctrine gaining influence, and sought to counter it. The true gospel is in the grace of Christ, see 2 Tim 1.9; this grace brings us into real liberty. A false gospel brings bondage, to sin, to legalism, or to both. The false gospel here is legalism, and Paul uses his strongest language to describe those who brought this message. By deserting from the truth, to embrace merely religious works, was to fall from grace (see 5.4). v7: The different gospel is really no gospel at all, it is not 'Good News', it cannot save, it denies the grace of God in Christ, see 2 Tim 1.9. This grace brings us into true liberty; false doctrine brings us into bondage. Such false teaching is not theoretical; real people were involved, who brought real confusion into the Galatian churches. The different gospel brings confusion and trouble, and disturbance; it is unsettling, and disturbs our peace and assurance. The true gospel is perverted (Gk: METASTREPHO), making something opposite (see Acts 2.20; James 4.9); they change the gospel of Christ into something which is not the gospel. v8-9: Those who proclaim another gospel are accursed. This is not surprising, given the effects of their 'ministry'. This judgment is repeated, "so now I say again". It is no light thing to change the message of Jesus Christ.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@Zz Z Galatians 2 15 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; 16 yet we know that a person is not justified [1] by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. 17 But if, in our endeavor to be justified in Christ, we too were found to be sinners, is Christ then a servant of sin? Certainly not! 18 For if I rebuild what I tore down, I prove myself to be a transgressor. 19 For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness [2] were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose. Converted Jews had been delivered from the necessity of following Jewish regulations. This had included both Paul and Peter. The agreed message was, and is, justification by faith. This is true in our experience, for we have put our faith in Jesus Christ and have been justified by faith. This is true as a matter of fact and principle, that a man is justified by faith in Jesus Christ. In contrast, no flesh can be justified by works, or by observing the law. This human way of religion cannot bring spiritual salvation. v17-18: The message of justification by faith can be corrupted by corrupt human thinking. What happens if a person, who has put faith in Christ, then falls into sin? Does that mean that Christ promotes sin? 'Certainly not!' responds the apostle. The true message does not promote sin, see 5.13-26, and through faith we receive power to depart from sin. v19: The law is not the way of breaking with sin; it did not work for the Jewish people, and it cannot work for us today. We have died to the law, just as we have died to sin. We are freed from sin, and freed from law, that we might live for God. v20: Daily living, like conversion to Christ, is by faith. Later, Paul addresses this further issue, see 3.3. Since Christ lives in me, I can live constantly by faith in Him, and I can display His character. My relationship with Him is from His grace and initiative, since He loved me and gave up His life for me. v21: Legalism attacks the gospel; the grace of God is set aside as irrelevant, and Christ died in vain, if legalism is the way to God, and the way of God. Since the grace of God and the death of Christ are central aspects of the gospel, then we must reject legalism.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@Zz Z Galatians 3 By Faith, or by Works of the Law? 3:1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by [1] the flesh? 4 Did you suffer [2] so many things in vain-if indeed it was in vain? 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith- 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”? 7 Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify [3] the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” 9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. The Galatians had been "bewitched" (flattery, fascination), a reference to the methods of the false teachers. These people did not use spiritual means to explain deficiencies in Paul's doctrine, rather they used slander and deceit and trickery to draw away disciples after themselves. In particular, they by-passed the cross of Christ. The Galatians were, however, "foolish" in allowing themselves to be led astray. We need discernment so that we reject false teaching. v2-3: Paul refers to clear conversion, they had received the Spirit, they had begun in the Spirit, and that by the hearing of faith. Faith had come through the preaching of the Word of God (Rom 10.17). But now they had returned to the keeping of the law, specifically circumcision, 4.9-10; Acts 15.5. It is impossible to "attain your goal" through any human effort. We note that, having received His Spirit, we continue to need the exhortations of God to live in the Spirit. Obedience and sanctification are not automatic. v4: Even suffering, one evidence of salvation, had been denied. They were fickle humans, forgetting past blessings and experiences, and the explanation of those blessings and experiences. v5: Had God given them great blessings because of obedience to the law? The clear answer is No!" v6: "Consider Abraham", he was the father of Israel. He was justified by faith, not by works, and certainly not by the works of the law. v7: The true sons of Abraham are those who 'are of faith'. Paul answers the arguments of the false teachers (Judaizers), who called the Galatians back to 'the faith of Abraham'. v8: The promise of blessing upon the Gentiles, through faith, was always God's plan and purpose. In Eph 3.6, Paul refers to this as God's mystery. Abraham, and later the whole Jewish nation, was to be the route of God's blessing upon the Gentiles. Ultimately, Jesus Christ, who was born a Jew, became the Name through whom God's blessings were poured out for all nations. v9: If we truly have faith in Christ, we are blessed with Abraham, the man of faith.

[@magandangaraw5492]

@Zz Z Galatians 3 The Righteous Shall Live by Faith 10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” [4] 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us-for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”- 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit [5] through faith. v10-14: The folly of trying to live by the law. v10: The law of God was given by God (Ex 20); Israel had committed themselves to living under it, Ex 24.3-7; They were thus under the law, i.e: subject to its blessings and curses, 1 Cor 9.20; Under the law, life was the reward for obedience, Lev 18.5; Under the law, the curse was the reward for disobedience, Deut 27.26; But one sin brings guilt, and therefore condemnation, James 2.10; Therefore the law cannot save us, it can only condemn us, since we all fall short; we are therefore all cursed. Obedience under the law had to be: perfect, personal, and perpetual; any failing in any way brought the curse. v11: Since we are all cursed, then no-one is justified by the law, 2.16. Israel had tried to establish their own righteousness, based on the law (Rom 10.3), and Paul himself had previously been committed to such a life, 1.14. Many try to gain acceptance before God by good works, sincerity, church attendance; but such things cannot save. Without faith they are dead works. v12: The law is not about faith. The solution from God is faith, by which we live. v13: The curse of the law has been taken away in Christ, for He became a curse for us. This is pictured in Boaz, the kinsman redeemer, who was cursed, Duet 23.3; Ruth 4.10, for his deliberate and willing choice to buy for himself a foreign bride. Hosea similarly paid a price to redeem one who was unworthy, Hos 3.2. v14: Through His redemption, we receive the blessing of Abraham, which is righteousness by faith, v6-7, see Rom 4. We also receive the promise of the Holy Spirit. Salvation in Christ is redemption from the condemnation of the law, and power, through the Spirit, to live for Christ and to know Him. The blessings of Abraham are for "all nations", and Paul goes on to declare this truth also, v26-29.

[@arrivagabry]

Where in the old testament does it say that it has an expiration date? I thought god was never changing, never erring. you are picking and choosing like ever other christian, either this god is bipolare, has a double personality, and is is changing or there are 2 gods one for the jews one for the christians. You can't have it both ways.

[@SgIronFox]

God relates to his people through the covenants. Mosaic Covenant is between God and Israel in the OT. In Jeremiah God said he will have a New Covenant with Israel. This New Covenant is fulfilled by Jesus in the NT and extended to the Gentiles. Paul said in Heb 9:13 'In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away'. OT law is replaced by the Law of Christ.

[@luckyisme10]

When Moses asked God's real name he gave him 'I'am', and you see Moses step slowly backward and is dumbfounded by that answer. Its not until when you get to the San Hedron w/ Jesus that you understand why Gold told Moses I'am. That means God has the power of time traveling.

[@JonathanGrandt]

luckyisme10 what the devil are you talking about......

[@luckyisme10]

I just told you I'am is Jesus.

[@ermon7574]

@@SgIronFox wrong

[@kennycouch6135]

Sounds good to hear people say "Jesus followed the law, so we should too." Unfortunately for these people they are not taking the counsel of the entire word of God. The New Testament has 27 books. The epistles are supposed to explain the 4 gospels. Anyone who interprets the 4 gospels outside of, or in contradiction to the teachings of the apostles is teaching their own doctrine apart from scripture. Period.

[@jesusistheanswer9998]

The Apostle Paul taught justification by faith. That means we are made righteous before God by faith in Jesus Christ. The bible also says that the law increased sin and made us more aware of it and it also says no one can be righteous by keeping it because in fact nobody can keep it. Only Jesus fulfilled it perfectly and became the completion of the law. Any person or group that teaches that christians are under the law does not understand the purpose of the law nor do they understand the gospel of grace.

[@chadcampbell7576]

1John 2:3-4 everyone. You have a ton of scripture about keeping the commandments and no excuse. The power of grace is the ability to keep the law and no longer be in bondage to sin. If you say different, you are lying just as the New testament writer says in this scripture.

[@jesusistheanswer9998]

@@chadcampbell7576 actually..... kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3imXn15ma97pbM

[@areafifty]

Tell me something. Do you believe the Torah is true?

[@chadcampbell7576]

I do. Psalms says " Thy law is Truth"@@areafifty

[@chadcampbell7576]

@@areafifty Thank you for joining the conversation btw. This should be more than just Kenny and I. This should be the Whole Christian church in the convo.

[@kennycouch4091]

When the Bible speaks of “the law,” it refers to the detailed standard God gave to Moses, beginning in Exodus 20 with the Ten Commandments. God’s Law explained His requirements for a holy people and included three categories: civil, ceremonial, and moral laws. The Law was given to separate God’s people from the evil nations around them and to define sin (Ezra 10:11; Romans 5:13; 7:7). The Law also clearly demonstrated that no human being could purify himself enough to please God-i.e., the Law revealed our need for a Savior. By New Testament times, the religious leaders had hijacked the Law and added to it their own rules and traditions (Mark 7:7-9). While the Law itself was good, it was weak in that it lacked the power to change a sinful heart (Romans 8:3). Keeping the Law, as interpreted by the Pharisees, had become an oppressive and overwhelming burden (Luke 11:46). It was into this legalistic climate that Jesus came, and conflict with the hypocritical arbiters of the Law was inevitable. But Jesus, the Lawgiver, said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” (Matthew 5:17). The Law was not evil. It served as a mirror to reveal the condition of a person’s heart (Romans 7:7). John 1:17 says, “For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.” Jesus embodied the perfect balance between grace and the Law (John 1:14). God has always been full of grace (Psalm 116:5; Joel 2:13), and people have always been saved by faith in God (Genesis 15:6). God did not change between the Old and New Testaments (Numbers 23:19; Psalm 55:19). The same God who gave the Law also gave Jesus (John 3:16). His grace was demonstrated through the Law by providing the sacrificial system to cover sin. Jesus was born “under the law” (Galatians 4:4) and became the final sacrifice to bring the Law to fulfillment and establish the New Covenant (Luke 22:20). Now, everyone who comes to God through Christ is declared righteous (2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 3:18; Hebrews 9:15). The conflict between Jesus and the self-righteous arose immediately. Many who had lived for so long under the Pharisees’ oppressive system eagerly embraced the mercy of Christ and the freedom He offered (Mark 2:15). Some, however, saw this new demonstration of grace as dangerous: what would keep a person from casting off all moral restraint? Paul dealt with this issue in Romans 6: “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” (verses 1-2). Paul clarified what Jesus had taught: the Law shows us what God wants (holiness), and grace gives us the desire and power to be holy. Rather than trust in the Law to save us, we trust in Christ. We are freed from the Law’s bondage by His once-for-all sacrifice (Romans 7:6; 1 Peter 3:18). There is no conflict between grace and the Law, properly understood. Christ fulfilled the Law on our behalf and offers the power of the Holy Spirit, who motivates a regenerated heart to live in obedience to Him (Matthew 3:8; Acts 1:8; 1 Thessalonians 1:5; 2 Timothy 1:14). James 2:26 says, “As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.” A grace that has the power to save also has the power to motivate a sinful heart toward godliness. Where there is no impulse to be godly, there is no saving faith. We are saved by grace, through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). The keeping of the Law cannot save anyone (Romans 3:20; Titus 3:5). In fact, those who claim righteousness on the basis of their keeping of the Law only think they’re keeping the Law; this was one of Jesus’ main points in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:20-48; see also Luke 18:18-23).

[@eleazarhillel8427]

The torah is not eliminated from the bible. It is obviously included and we can learn from it. Every people, every race can learn from it. The Gospel is the center of everything. Without the divine nature of accepting Yeshua as the Messiah and his sacrifice for our sins, there is no relationship with God. I believe the Constantinian doctrune has blinded people into believing false prophecy. Everyone needs to follow the torah. Well Constantine was wrong abiut everything, including establishing himself as the Messiah in the name of Apollo. Hence Sunday is worship of the Sun. One of the greatest signs that ghe Lord himself gave us is in Matthew 12:40. It also debunks a Sunday Sabbath from existing in orginal Christian doctrine. He was sacrificed late in the afternoon on a Wednesday before the high sabbath of the first day of the feast of unleavened bread. Days in Gods time start after sunset and end before the sun sets completely on the next day. The high sabbath of John 19:31 never occurs on a Friday. He was killed on a Wednesday shortly after 3 PM and resurrect 3 days after his death on the third day. He was already risen on the first day of the week - Mark 16:9 the text indicates past tense having been risen. Mark 9:31 indicates he will rise on the third day, not the fourth day after he is killed. Sunday makes 4. He arose 3 days after his death shortly after 3 PM. So, unfortunately the sunday sabbath and the pagan easter ham and Christmass can go take a hike into nothing. Constantine liarstianity is an unfounded doctrine and the proof of the false sunday sabbath just topples the whole foundation. Dueteronomy 5:15 speaks to the sanctity of the sabbath because we were delivered from bondage with a mighty hand and outstretched arm. Egypt means bondage. Isnt it funny how Jesus resurrected on the sabbath day, and you want to do away with the sabbath? Yeshua is our Passover lamb, why do away with it?

[@eleazarhillel8427]

@A A I think you are looking to far into it. Romans 13:1 - 2 states to obey the laws of the land. So while we do not amass severe punishment , we still obey it. But we cannot forget His grace. We can not teach others that in order to receive salvation, you have to do good works. By taking one law out and putting a Constantinian law on everything, it deceives people and creates war and conflict. Simply put in preparation for the return of the Messiah, the way Christianity has proceeded through war, persecution, and conflict and implementing a Roman theology will not be the way the Messiah returns and will not be the way he sets up his kingdom. The word of God goes forth from Jerusalem, not Rome per Isaiah 2:3. Salvation was not intended to be by works according to the law and at the same time we are not to eliminate the torah from our lives. We still teach it because it has value to our lives. In essence, we become part of those that rise up from the valley of Ezekiel 37, Daniel 7:18, Revelation 19, because the "saints" returning back will be those gathered together with those asleep in the dust. So even though he has not returned, those who accept Salvation will return with the Lord to fight a war against the enemies of Jerusalem. That is the promise of Deuteronomy 30. All believers in Messiah who have died in Him or will be alive at His return will be a part of it. We cant go back in time any more and live under a compromised religion. As persecution is growing stronger and evil is increasing in the world, we cannot go back to a compromised Constantinian religion. As the truth is coming out more boldly, we will probably see a growth in Jewish converts to the Msssiah Yeshua (Jesus). Every single judgment brought into the world is a sign from God for us to repent as in Luke 13. We dont know when the Lord will return but we do know now more than ever is the time to repent of our sin because if the world continues in its direction, God will continue to judge the world. There is no more going backwards and embracing concepts where Jews and non Jews were forced to worship pagan gods in the name of Christianity as with Constantine. The comfortability with that will be ripped away anyway.

[@eleazarhillel8427]

@A A I also share compassion with any confusiom or strife and remeber the grace of our Lord who was sacrificed for our sin. Not one part of the bible should be untaught. We must move away from the conflict that has engulfed Jews and non Jews for 2000 years by preaching the gospel first and foremost snd teaching the whole bible to people, regardless of race or origin.

[@Simply_Teenahx]

@@eleazarhillel8427 But the Gregorian calendar is not God's true calendar anyways