Do I Have Autism? ADHD? Both? An Adult’s Guide to Diagnosis and Treatment (w/ Benjamin Yerys, Ph.D.)

Autism and ADHD coexist at significantly elevated rates, and adults with both disorders face unique challenges. Symptoms of both conditions can resemble one another - one reason why clinicians typically screen for both during assessment. While research on adult autism and ADHD is scarce, clinicians largely agree on best practices in the evaluation and treatment of patients with both disorders. In this hour-long ADDitude webinar with Benjamin E. Yerys, Ph.D., learn about autism in adults, and how ADHD may complicate the picture.
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2:00 Conflict of Interest
2:18 Formal Diagnostic Criteria
2:36 Social Communication and Social Interaction
5:13 Repetitive Behaviors
11:38 ASD Specifiers
13:24 Levels of Support
18:26 What Prompts An Autism Referral?
19:29 ASD and ADHD
23:32 ASD Evaluation
26:04 Adaptive Behavior
27:34 Psychiatric Assessment
37:48 Take Away on Functional Impact of ADHD Symptoms
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[@amaebarnes]

It is literally so hard to take those questionnaires when you have adhd and suspect autism. It's like 2 opposite people living in one body so I can't really answer one answer to those questions. Because I am different all the time

[@gelflingfay]

Same

[@annak29]

This is very insightful and more clinicians and researchers need to take time to listen to the patients rather than just study from an "outside" viewpoint. It's extremely biased, limited, ignores the bigger picture, and thereby ineffective.

[@fredadarlenepowers8837]

Exactly!!! It's so confusing because sometimes we really don't even know what we think or how we feel or what we even like at times. Two different people!!!

[@missydavis6678]

Me too! I've said those exact words.😲 I feel like it depends on how stressed I am. Qhen I was younger I felt weird looking at people. I practiced alot. It also did depend on the person. Some people that were on my wavelength I felt comfortable with. Looking back I feel like I was drawn more to mouth movements but I'm pretty sure I made eye contact. Now I have learned to enjoy it. Still, if I'm stressed or have eaten foods that mess with my mind and mood, I don't want to be looked at. Its confusing because I am not sure if that means I can't be autistic or what? Can anyone relate? The way I feel alot is, can't keep up with life, overwhelmed, crave order, but can't seem to get or stay there, struggling greatly with what to do first, so much to do I shut down, I forget what I should be doing first, I need simplicity and a straight line but this world is 🤯...I desperately need alone time, but will fail to recognize the source of my stress until I start yelling, finding negative fault with everything, shut down, stay home for two days and start feeling better. I can think, and I get motivated...ANYONE ELSE?😶

[@ruaoneill9050]

@@missydavis6678 "The way I feel alot is, can't keep up with life, overwhelmed, crave order, but can't seem to get or stay there, struggling greatly with what to do first, so much to do I shut down, I forget what I should be doing first, I need simplicity and a straight line but this world is 🤯...I desperately need alone time, but will fail to recognize the source of my stress until I start yelling, finding negative fault with everything, shut down, stay home for two days and start feeling better." This is my life exactly and I have no idea how to fix it and I feel like I'm running out of solutions...

[@ItsjustBeth-wk6qi]

As far as masking… females have more pressure from family and society to not act irritated or angry or tolerance for meltdowns. We are forced at an early age to stifle that and made to learn “acceptable” behavior. My opinion on “loosing a diagnosis” is that people learn to mask. This may be helpful during your 20-30’s but it becomes mentally exhausting as you age and causes shutdown. Shutdown causes people in their late 40’s-50’s-60’s to lose jobs, relationships and become recluse. There is no cure. And ignoring the harm in masking is where you are going wrong in research for adults.

[@dmcsunshine1]

Its very harmful:(

[@TheWilliamHoganExperience]

Yup. I was an architect and a professor for many years. I shut down in my mid 40s. I simply couldn't take it anymore. Now, I'm....well, reclusive! =) I thought it was a combination of anxiety and depression coupled with intollerable colleauges and adminstrators that drove me out of my profession. And it was. But I was recently diagnosed as autistic. That explained why I found things intollerable that everyone else finds normal. I was able to mask for decades, but it took an awful toll. I didn't even realize I was doing it. Now I'm retired. in my late 50s. An architect and a teacher with an IQ in the top 2%. And who's autistic and ADHD. Who worked hard for decades to make the world a better place through building and education. Our society doesn't want, need or reward people like me. It rewards conformity.

[@pollystyrene99]

I lived your comment.

[@annak29]

This is excellent insight and I hope the entirety of "treatment world" would actually wake up to the whole life and lifespan concerns.

[@melissa6261975]

@@TheWilliamHoganExperience You wrote it perfectly! I too, have started to become a recluse. Its just too painful to try to fit in, in this neurotypical world.

[@dmcsunshine1]

It honestly feels like no one cares. Im tired of being misunderstood and or disbelieved. I looked in the mirror when I was 35 and I could see the pain showing through my camouflage. I never even knew that was what I was doing. I had to try to get help and no one has even mentioned autism but it makes total sense. Its been a nightmare! Now new information is available via KZbin and I am 55. I’ve been told it’s too late to diagnose because my mother is passed away and I have no one to verify my story. I feel pathetic.

[@eveningprimrose3088]

57 here. And it would be so gratifying to be able to be diagnosed, but it appears that I might have to emigrate or do medical tourism to get a diagnosis. There is no motivation in the sickcare system to diagnose adults with autism. There is no money to be made in it other than the meds and psychiatric treatment copays we have already fruitlessly subjected ourselves to. A diagnosis would not help me practically, but it would help my soul.

[@Catlily5]

You can get a diagnosis without a parent supposedly now.

[@meganbirdsong533]

Find a new professional to diagnose you. That person who told you that is a lazy harmful entity.

[@trishgreen2892]

@@eveningprimrose3088 I just turned 52, and my mom just passed away last year. I went through a period of intense introspection and watched several videos on female Asperger's people, and came to the conclusion that I have both autism and ADD (which I figured out years ago, but so much stigma attached that I didn't care about it anymore). I don't need a diagnosis. I know myself better than any supposed expert, and it all is just doctors opinions, anyway. They write the rules that we live by.

[@mrjohncrumpton]

@@trishgreen2892 Such a good point! I've had a late adult diagnoses for both ADHD and autism. I knew and my wife knew before the diagnosis. I only feels a little better to know for sure.

[@27sgall]

I think he’s wrong to say you can outgrow it. It is a part of one’s neurology. Can one learn to live with it? Yes. Will it always be a part of someone who is correctly diagnosed? Also yes.

[@Jablicek]

@@aprilmay1700 Precisely. It's called masking for a reason.

[@Kageoni187]

Amen, our brains are different we just learn how to cope and navigate as best we can it doesn’t change that those things which effect us still do and how we view and interact and understand the world and others is always going to be divergent.

[@_ryu__jin_]

yes but it's scientifically wrong to say you can outgrow it.

[@flor.7797]

Outgrow it as in develop coping strategies 😅

[@malkiyahu]

True. I don’t care how much tv or podcast doctors know today until they incline the ear to listen to us; and that is why they n my eyes and ears, few are deserving of any respect.

[@avgirlaustintx]

I found the title to be misleading because 90% of the talk was about Autism and then he just threw ADHD there at the end.

[@vickicarringer7038]

When I drive at night I get overwhelmed. It took me awhile to figure out why I had such bad anxiety when driving at night. I finally realized it was due to the enhanced external stimuli. Lights from cars...sounds of cars..music playing..I get overwhelmed. If it raining at night that adds another layer. Just wondering if anyone else experiences this meltdown when driving?

[@trishgreen2892]

The fact that the cities and car industries are adding the harmful bright, white, LED lights to all the street lamps and vehicles is also adding to the problem. I researched it about 6 years ago, and there were a few optometrists who have been writing articles on how harmful these LED lights are to overall health and eye health in particular. But they are ignored. And just recently I researched and learned that they cause cataracts.

[@debbiesa00]

YES. I have this same issue. I thought I was the only one:/

[@avgirlaustintx]

I have the same problem and thought it was anxiety, then autism, and now I am leaning towards it being me just losing my vision. I would like to find out the root cause because it really sucks not being able to drive.

[@trishgreen2892]

@@avgirlaustintx Check into Mast Cell Activation Disorder or believe it or not, parasites. Something no one likes to talk about, but very common problem, especially for people who've been out of the country and those with pets, and anyone who eats out. I am taking naturopathic medicine cuprum oxydatum nigrem for parasites and just started taking Naturdao for MCAD. Must research. I also found a guy online who said that some eye drops from the supplement company, Life Extension helped his wife's cataracts so she didn't have to have surgery. I'm afraid of surgery and I'm poor so I can't afford it anyway. I just ordered some of those too. I am an artist and my eyesight is very important to me.

[@jojozepofthejungle2655]

Yes I get even worse and make serious mistakes, like changing lanes at turns. Everything goes blurry. I don't drive at night.

[@zia_kat]

yikes. "learning to cope" is not "growing out of autism". no one "grows out of autism". also find it horrendous that autism speaks was included as a resource. it's a hate group. please don't do that.

[@bookbeing]

Sensory overload is enough to drive a person mad. Sounds, smells, textures can be overwhelming, like someone turned up the volume past 10.

[@bennywright12]

I got diagnosed with ADHD a couple of years back and started medication. They also recommended CBT because i have developed a poor self image. In my first session the therapist says sounds like you have high functioning autism… my only concern is if you go looking for problems are probably going to find some. Doesn’t everyone have their issues and struggles?? I worry i’m just collecting labels which at the end of the day won’t change anything… i will still be considered rude, i will still be called stupid and useless by people. Sometimes i think I should just use the words other people will use because very few people will give you the benefit of the doubt in life. I was once told you’re at least two people, who you think you are and who other’s think you are. the only one that counts is who others think u are as they hold the keys to getting along in life. Say I offend someone, then i spot it afterwards, which is often the case. What do i say then? No no no you don’t understand i said that thoughtless insensitive thing coz autism. They still won’t want to spend time with me 🤷‍♂️ Anyway great talk!

[@3.0colorado21]

Facts man. I’m dealing with this with my wife. She had gained weight after our second kid and I had some injuries. She was depressed about her weight and I had said some things about being fat and unhealthy with no intent of harm or malice but now I’m a jackass forever. I do dumb stuff all the time that I regret afterwards and then I dwell on conversations and how they could’ve gone different and what I should have said…. Oh well, my dog still likes me at least.

[@farhiyaa4880]

Need Coaching (for skills needed now) + therapy (for emotions + family problems) Join ADDA membership - they got support groups Attend the ADHD convention in person or online.

[@bennywright12]

@@3.0colorado21 yeah my dog is a real help too. I have become pretty good at not saying things but i can still tell people are like oh this guy’s retarded after 10 or 20 mins of conversation. I’m just missing something. Like I’m colour blind and everyone else seems to be enjoying the colours. I can see them enjoying themselves but i just don’t get it. I’ll forever be on the outside looking in, wondering what the flip is going on?!?! 😂

[@battfamily435]

I recommend learning as much about ASD and then when this happens, you can pull personnaside and apologize and explain. Some may not care either way, but some will appreciate and empathize. Be compassionate with yourself. You can't worry about satisfying everyone. You just need to do your best. Learn and do whatever you can to help yourself.

[@missydavis6678]

The ones worth keeping will.

[@pollystyrene99]

@its just beth made an important observation in that as a young person females learn to mask, stifle their irritation and anger to be socially acceptable, so many of us are undiagnosed. The medical profession has failed us. Here's a little of my story, I imagine there's many of us undiagnosed spectrum folk who can relate: The social aspect of school was painfully intolerable so I dropped out and I never fit in anyway. Despite this, I did very well in my early career, I was identified as top management calibre for an international bank in my late twenties, by early 30's I was head of the canadian division. I was invited to be a partner by another firm. But I was struggling to mask my social anxiety and a raft of things that others seemed to have no problem with. Masking is exhausting, I started to crack in my 40's, venting irritation instead of masking and trying to please. Eventually i shutdown. Experienced job and relationship issues in my 40s-50's-60's. My 40's were a nightmare, I cracked amidst a storm of personal and professional challenges. I lost my partnership as I stopped wanting to leash my irritation and intolerance of people and bad systems. I was too tired to mask and this non-conformity put a target on my back. Looking back I wish someone had put me forward for a diagnosis, but in my day the "bell mental health' supports weren't a thing, but firing outliers was. Now I'm 60 and unlikely I'll get a job again.

[@turtleanton6539]

It is a tuff life

[@kindische.kaiserin]

.. made me laugh when he apologized for speaking fast since I'm watching this at 1.5x speed. wouldn't be able to focus/process at a lower speed. anyone else?

[@strictnonconformist7369]

I’m pretty sure I typically speak at his speed, and I didn’t grow up in New York, but in the Detroit area. In 2002 I unexpectedly got an Aspergers diagnosis as a result of finding myself in a crisis with serious health/medical problems between kidney stones and Meniere’s at the same time after being laid off July 2001, for what I termed inertia, which I discovered is a thing that’s seen in autism (I also have an autistic older sister, but she’s higher support needs and less independent, etc.) labeled autistic inertia. Due to long-term stress at work, and perhaps autistic burnout, combined with the mistake of not thinking to get records transferred from where I was diagnosed in 2002 (they destroy records after 7 years) and my nature combined with extreme work stress circumstances, it made sense to go through assessment again (ugh!) and to start, I was quickly diagnosed with ADHD (honestly, not a surprise) and now I wonder exactly (after 2 sessions to do differential diagnosis and rule out other things) where it’ll go, as I’m 52 next month.

[@storiesbydarksaberlight1517]

Yep, I listen to everything at 2x speed without difficulty comprehending. I’m 30, and I only recently realized that that’ actually can be a symptom or effect of ADHD.

[@Jessica-zi1zq]

Absolutely!! 😂😂

[@Michalos86]

Yeah, me at 2x :D

[@OnurGul]

Haha I was at 1.75 😂

[@Synchrodipity]

This contained some useful information -- However, he virtually dismissed personality disorder comorbidity and all those people who have been misdiagnosed -- and it's the 'either or' approach here that fails a lot of people. I have ADHD, Dyspraxia and in the middle of a second-opinion ASD assessment, and really would not want this man to be assessing me.

[@ashmoleproductions5407]

AS: " Autism speaks, and thats a problem." This whole webinar was basically, "Sorry we have nothing. Keep looking." The anger this inspires cannot be understated. Of course there is more than one kind of autism, that has been readily apparent for decades just from reading a couple of the studies. Are clinicians really so unaware or too lazy to find out about the developments in their fields? You all keep searching for a panacea for Autism when it has been readily apparent there is none for decades. There is no one size fits all. So many promising treatments that could have helped a population of autism sufferers disregarded because it did not help another. How wastelful, how evil. Then you have the gal to mention a CBT type for adults then say "wait five years" Disgusting. We have lives, they are finite you cannot just stop the timer for bureaucracy. We need something now not later. I wish I could get my time back.

[@marielafabrega3599]

:(

[@dmcsunshine1]

Im in agreement with you!

[@annak29]

Totally agree! It's looking like the arrogance, lack of creativity, lack of sensitivity, and abject intractible myopia, coupled with the heavy inertia of "comfort zone" and literal powers in socio-economic position, they have nearly ZERO incentive or motivation to adapt themselves. So let's define and diagnose that - it's pervasive, destructive, and even willful.

[@buttercxpdraws8101]

👏👏👏 yes this ⬆️

[@dreamarcher4018]

They just want US to fit in. I can see helping bipolar with drugs (but I had a relative-in-law who got kidney disease from lithium and died way too early. I don’t know that we should just be ourselves as much as possible - if exercise helps bipolar perhaps it helps people on the spectrum with their anxiety.

[@innovationsanonymous8841]

"I apologize if I'm talking fast." It's ok. I'm listening at 2x speed

[@mattrich79]

Really wish this was subtitled

[@NeurodiversityMB]

I know they're inadequate, but the CC on this one isn't too bad (I'm hard of hearing myself). I agree, though -- all videos should have subtitles/proper captions and/or transcripts for accessibility.

[@shorelined1]

On bottom of drop down menu use Transcript. Works even better

[@UnburiedTalents]

I'm a THERAPIST ON THE SPECTRUM, late diagnosed at 43, now 48. I'm looking to connect with other therapists who are late-diagnosed autistic. Autism became my specialty, real quick! I got my license in 2005 before the DSM 5 came out. Wow, was my education about autism and Asperger's minimal! I don't recall spending even one hour discussing autism in ANY class, on the college or graduate level. At that same time, I got diagnosed with dysthymia (remember that one?) and recurrent depression. My father (also autistic) was believed by mom's therapist to have symptoms of schizoaffective disorder and narcissism (his mindblindness is strong). My self-diagnosis in Honors Psych 101 was Avoidant Personality Disorder. It wasn't until my brother, seeking help for his social issues at work (nuclear medicine), started trying suggestions from a book about Asperger's in the workplace, that the seed of exploration was planted for me. It's all over our family for 4 generations that we know of.

[@oreradovanovi5204]

It's scary as hell that there is no research on adults, that there's no training for basic understanding of Asperger's.

[@turtleanton6539]

Too true😊

[@malkiyahu]

To diagnose a person with ASP and/or ADHD is very easy. No different than getting a written estimate for an old change. And you know how that goes sometimes. They want to change the transmission and fuel tank while at it to make a buck. You need ro spend some 3 hours in a child’s indoor playground and spend at least $2700 for them to give you the estimate of your true illness so that you have a right to procure highly controlled obnoxious substances so you can rehabilitate yourself and become productive. They know what you already know. And as long as you know, you can provide for it or find a way. But they’d rather make you spin your wheels. Only some 4% of people get prescriptions for what they truly have or need to, the rest, they find another way. The truth is that whatever causes these disorders is a nutritional deficit inherited or acquired before, during or after birth,. And almost any mental disorder or balance in a hospital, crisis unit improves at least 50% within seven days at such a place even without any meds. You may be starving to death and/or from sleep and not even know it. All you need is regular meals and a good night sleep. After that anything else you need to restore your normal functionality is supplementary. It is something that you meed to get and/or do or that you are not doing or getting. It’s environmental. That is you may need to walk, work, play, buy and get, like sunlight, sunshine, or even a new love, passion or lover or a true vacation to or from such: The rest is juts commentary. Where I come from, people are not so fcuked as we are here in the usa just so you know. Here food, drugs, healthcare and crime, beauty, dating among are just a money making industry.

[@jennadoll6174]

I 100 percent can NOT find help or anyone who can diagnose female/adults. It is absolutely upsetting the lack of assistance. I am below Philadelphia in Pennsylvania. Everywhere i call are not able to help

[@astrammd]

Going to a provider who can do goldstanded diagnostic assessments, like the ADOS2, may also be important when considering insurance coverage for ASD related services or treatments later on.

[@malkiyahu]

This is why old timers get their diagnosis and meds overseas or South of the Border.

[@garethholmes1979]

I have adhd ocd bipolar and autism. I struggle with everything

[@brandonlee9791]

It's all starting to make sense now now. I realise why this is all been miss leading from the very start, since I was back in 1986 being born after hours cut for my mum's Billy umbilical cord.It is all making sense so I remember being wrapped around the tree,🌳 in the 90s because the car was aride off, then 6 other car crashes followed then all the hard times at school primary school high school teachers putting me down the road I'll never have a future and kids buying me then in 2020 fast forward a bit and I'm in hospital in recovering from an infection on my lower and now still going through the hurdles of life hard ways of the yin and yang, then I thought I was dead, so I finished myself. My nephew was in the car 🚗 I'm not sure I think my mum was in shock, I was definitely in shock I couldn't remember a lot of things because I'm tails & mum is cancer like sonic, my nephew was knuckles like Capricorn so he wouldn't have felt any pain, the tails was already dead in Sonic 2 on the Sega Master, it happened so quickly but still and I'm pretty sure I have ADHD autism and at my mind is running 88 miles an hour so I'm so I'm just leash you I'm going to have it till the day I die and people cut understand my difficulty hard some people even tell me I'm intimidating but yeah I don't care🤷🏻‍♂️. I'm me and I'm only always be me I can't be anybody else like all the zodiac signs of the astrologist company of the shin Garuda code💭. And as for my older sister she passed away on a thing called dialysis which I'm pretty sure is caused by smoking but yet alone I could be wrong because most of the time a lot of people can die from natural causes as well✌️👋🏼.

[@tinkystink65]

THESE COMMENTS.... ALL BRILLIANT. THANK YOU!!! 🙌👏👏👏👏👏

[@bookhuggah]

I disagree that you can outgrow a neuro developmental or developmental disability, but I do think that some people are misdiagnosed with such and so can then lose the wrong diagnosis.

[@jonathanberry1111]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧩 *Overview of Autism Spectrum Disorder Diagnosis* - The diagnostic criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) include two major domains: Social Communication and Interaction and Repetitive Behaviors. - In the Social Communication and Interaction domain, behaviors like reciprocity, nonverbal communication, and relationship development are evaluated. - The Repetitive Behaviors domain covers repetitive movements, speech, object use, and the need for sameness. 08:41 📊 *Prevalence and Other Considerations* - The prevalence of autism is estimated at one in 54 individuals. - There has been progress in reducing racial disparities in diagnosis, but Hispanic youth are still less likely to receive a diagnosis. - About 75-80% of children with autism also have a diagnosis of ADHD. 16:46 🤝 *Intersection of Autism and ADHD* - Rates of co-occurrence of autism and ADHD vary depending on the study, but they can range from 20% to 65% in adults. - The diagnostic criteria for both conditions can sometimes overlap, making it challenging to distinguish them. - Social components of ADHD symptoms can resemble features of autism, creating complexity in diagnosis. 21:42 🔍 *Assessment Challenges and Lack of Gold Standard* - There is currently no gold standard diagnostic practice for distinguishing between autism and ADHD in adulthood. - Clinicians may face challenges in differentiating symptoms due to the lack of clear guidelines. - Assessment practices for ASD and ADHD in adulthood are still evolving. 21:56 📋 *Diagnosing Autism and ADHD* - Autism and ADHD diagnoses are based on behaviors that develop over time. - The challenge is piecing together a person's history to understand their challenges. - There are gold standard tools for evaluation, including developmental history and screening questionnaires. 24:00 🧩 *Autism Screening Tools* - Autism screening tools like the Social Communication Questionnaire and Autism Quotient are used. - These tools help assess social communication skills and traits related to autism. - The Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule (ADOS) is considered a gold standard for childhood evaluations. 26:17 🌟 *Adaptive Behavior Assessment* - Adaptive behavior assessments measure daily living skills, socialization, and coping skills. - These assessments help understand an individual's independence and how they function in their daily life. - They are essential for evaluating autism in adulthood. 28:07 🧠 *Psychiatric Assessment and Differential Diagnosis* - Psychiatric assessments consider various differential diagnoses, including social anxiety, generalized anxiety, and ADHD. - Distinguishing between autism-related behaviors and other conditions is crucial. - It's important to rule out other psychiatric conditions when diagnosing autism. 30:02 🧒 *ADHD and Autism in Childhood* - ADHD symptoms in children with autism can impact adaptive behaviors. - ADHD may add complexity to supporting children with autism. - Research has shown that ADHD symptoms can affect independence and quality of life in children with autism. 32:07 🧑 *ADHD and Autism in Adulthood* - ADHD symptoms continue to impact daily functioning and quality of life in adults with autism. - Addressing ADHD symptoms in adulthood may improve independence and overall well-being. - This research highlights the need for tailored interventions for adults with both conditions. 42:54 📋 *Diagnosis and Treatment in Adults* - The importance of finding the right treatment for ADHD in adults. - Emphasizing clear goals and outcomes in ADHD treatment. 44:01 🧩 *Seeking a Diagnosis for ASD in Adults* - Challenges in finding qualified providers for autism diagnosis in adults. - The value of starting with a psychologist for autism evaluations. - Looking for credentials and training related to autism in potential providers. 45:10 🏥 *Professional Organizations and Resources* - Mention of Autism Speaks as a resource for finding autism providers. - The Autism Roadmap website as a helpful resource for autism-related questions. - Suggestions for looking for autism centers at major universities with medical centers. 50:18 🚺 *Diagnosis Challenges for Women with Autism* - The delayed diagnosis of autism in females. - The concept of masking and how it affects diagnosis in women. - The ongoing debate about the lower autism diagnosis rate in females. 53:20 🧬 *Genetic Component of Autism* - Confirmation of a genetic component in autism. - Discussion of genetic overlap between different neurodevelopmental disorders. - The role of numerous genes with small effects in contributing to autism. 55:01 🧩 *Outgrowing Autism in Adulthood* - The possibility of individuals outgrowing their autism diagnosis. - How coping mechanisms and life experiences can impact diagnosis. - The challenges for clinicians when diagnosing adults who have adapted to their traits. Made with HARPA AI

[@ddood8563]

Ok so I was going to watch this but then read a comment about Autism Speaks being a vulgar 'charity'. I googled "autism speaks hate group" and after that I don't want to hear one word that they or anyone affiliated with them have to say.

[@5fingerjack]

He mentions it as an aside, and acknowledges that there are issues. As limited as information is, this is worth a listen.

[@brandonlee9791]

@@5fingerjack he even mentioned ocd. My friend has bipolar disorder. It's a very scary kind of thing, I was worried for him once because he wanted to jump a window. Because he had a very hard time at work and he felt intimidated by the work E's we're giving him a rough day that day. I said don't worry bro I've been there I've had jobs and I've been rejected many times. I was with a company called Hume employment services it's where they help people with a disability people that have sicknesses disabilities and are in wheelchairs.

[@Catlily5]

You can still learn from people. He at least acknowledges there are problems with Autism Speaks. I don't believe he is right on everything but I still learned from him.

[@trishgreen2892]

I am in the middle of watching. No wonder I am getting a vibe from him that I dislike. He comes off as arrogant and very opinionated, imo. I will still finish watching but I've had to put close captioning on and slow the rate to .75 because he talks way too fast for an audience to listen and comprehend. Doctors and lawyers need to take professional speech lessons so that people can understand what they are talking about.

[@rimamehari6700]

A guy I was with and I love I suspect is in this spectrum & may have ADHD or asperger.I admired him as a person and I tried to be understanding to the things he didn’t do in our interactions but later found out was not loyal so we went our separate ways.

[@malkiyahu]

You were dancing with the Lion! He was not disloyal, he only spared you. His natural instinct compelled him to perpetuate his species. He was loyal to gis God!

[@justjamie333]

One can lower the playback speed if the gentleman’s speech seems too rapid

[@nenadcubric2663]

Any Medication which could help ASD

[@Rollwithit699]

I'm now 69, was deemed disabled in 2017 from fibromyalgia, migraines, anxiety, foggy thinking. Last year at 68 was finally diagnosed with autism (Aspergers) and ADHD. Two months ago diagnosed with small fiber peripheral polyneuropathy and occipital neuralgia. All I know all this time is anxiety and pain. You refer to "services" given. I've never received or even heard of any available services. Am I eligible for services of some sort?

[@HIGHLANDER_ONLY_ONE]

❌️ I was diagnosed with both among other things, so it's easier for me to say I'm NEURO DIVERGENT... I feel that I'm trying to figure out which one is making act out of the "norm " Life I done from av typing age and has a real knack for languages, but I don't have a good filter, and I bulldoze conversations, and it takes a lot from me to listen to other people's conversations, because I see e writing in pictures, and I'm a huge problem solving, and it takes all of me not to tell them how to fix their issues. My brain knows I'm suppose to reign this wild horse, but my horse has a mind of its own. I also talk at a 100 miles an hour. I'm working on it. Then I've can't STAND repetitive noise, i can't STAND water sprinkling on me, or drafts. I can't keep time, I'm bad a keeping my finances together. Sometimes some things need to ABSOLUTELY one way - no questions about it, with other things I'm relaxed. I'm OCD - bathroom type germs throw me into a panicked attack if I'm not careful, I expand a lot of energy keeping information off I have touched something, life the bottom of my pants touching public restrooms' floor, then ib tin home and spray my pants with alcohol, it hydrogen peroxide. I'm distracted a lot, my whole schedule is thrown off, if there's an issue, life of I need to go to the doctor at 2 PM, I can't do anything during the morning. I can't sit still, do at red lights, I need to keep dusting my car, and rearranging stuff, touching my hair, etc. I wrote normally beautifully, but some times, I wrote gay and ugly, and it's the anxiety in me. I could go on and on... I'm a woman, so I'm EXCELLENT at masking... ❌️

[@ANNEMARGARET0319]

Extremely informative!

[@gaelle4328]

Most tests are actually shit and very hard to do if you have asd and or adhd as they are to vague or to precise, they in my view has to be more of a discussion starter than anything else. ( probably because they are made by nt’s)

[@ellanina801]

I definitely require support, and know I require support but I don’t have the resources or network to obtain support. It’s really hard and I’m like barely squeezing through. I’ve dealt with a lot of trauma and abuse, which makes it even harder for me. And I’m trying to run a business which makes it even harder for me, but I can’t function in a normal work environment anymore (harder for me to mask, phones drive me crazy). One day at a time lol.

[@brendascally116]

I think doctors are missing the mark with those that have Aspbergers and ADHD. Level of interest and longevity while helpful is too narrow a descriptor. Those with ADHD will have been distracted and moved on, so seemingly, a great number of interests suddenly precludes one from an ASD diagnosis. This isnt being talked about enough and is not serving us well.

[@GloriaW888]

Can brain scans and blood work be done to help diagnose and treat ADHD and Autism?

[@mickeyd7283]

Yes

[@mickeyd7283]

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[@5fingerjack]

No, they are not evidence based. You can pay the good doctor his fee, but it's not a hard science.

[@eveningprimrose3088]

No $ motivation to diagnose adults.

[@brandonlee9791]

My Older Brother 🦂♏ & he has OCD. & it's really dam weird, I can understand his sickness a fair bit. I think my disability has the more complicated ways of life, because with me I sorta go into the depths of the detail of someone's and that's kind of white people sort of shine away from me because I sort of tried to interact even though it's hard on a different Spectrum level 🤷🏻‍♂️💭🤔 could be why people runaway and feel intimidated. Because after my Aries ♈ passed away from a thing called stroke paralysed on one side😔 after that life Connor got complicated then on from their back in the 90's🙇‍♂️.

[@rhondajo7822]

Question.... could multiple head traumas and medical traumas affect behaviors and mental processing over time so that symptoms of late-life Autism appear?

[@ashtonaveryx]

No you are born autistic, it can not develop later on in life

[@malkiyahu]

I am not an expert, but I don’t believe the ADHD test was originally biased towards little boys as the principal reason today 4 out of five diagnosis go to boys and not girls. Scientist are very meticulous and subjective and discrimination or gender or race is far from their train of thought. I have both autism and add and I have five daughters and two sets of twins. At least two of them have what I have and one or two of them have either autism or add. Only two of them out of all have shown impairment symptoms to a mild to moderate degree or their Add is affecting their abilities to learn, concentrate and what not. And the point is that the only reason by which they were not detected in early childhood is that their attention deficit is rather inattentive than hyperactive. We all thought that they were just a little shy and introverted outside their comfort zone. Thus, the hyperactive factor which is relatively obvious in boys with add is only an augmented symptom that triggers the diagnosis or at least a valid suspicion that such little critters or langoliers may have ADHD. It my inexpert belief is justified, the actual diagnosis is equalized in all children regardless of race or gender. It means, that those gitls or women of either gender or whatever race are out there suffering, struggling or masking and absorbing their pain as many pain tolerant autistic kiddos do in my humble opinion.

[@laurah4949]

What country is your research being conducted in? Are you limiting to USA only? Finding fact based treatment for adults with ADHD is nearly non-existent in the US. Clearly the lack of research on both conditions is due to no profit motive in helping people with lifelong difficulties by using the current "treatment" methods that focus on curing, fixing or correcting people instead of working with their gifts, talents and strengths in an outcome-based framework. I am disappointed in the minimal information about treatment here. They just sound like vague suggestions with no basis in science.

[@annak29]

Agree. The limits of "neurotypicals" and their perspectives, experience, sociability are glaring but yet they don't see it themselves. Mediocrity and conformity are the highest values of this culture, because it makes good "order-followers". Then you just have to ask, cui bono? Follow the money.

[@irisviel_Einzbern]

@9:00

[@irisviel_Einzbern]

9:39

[@jpoeng]

I think being passionate about the Eagles is its own mental disorder that should be in the DSM-6

[@eddieafterburner]

Ornithology has nothing to do with this.

[@garethholmes1979]

You're as fast as me talking

[@paddleduck5328]

12:44 fragile x

[@user-qv7vi2ls6j]

Read about Dr Temple Grandin she has done extensive research on animals and autism in children. Dr Grandin has written several books on the subject of autism and animals. "The Autistic Brain"

[@the2ndgem]

I think this doctor may have a developmental disorder himself.

[@rkleblanc1]

UM, UM, UH, UH, UM, UM. Doc, you really neeed some classes on speaking. Find a local Toastmasters club. You're blasting through your presentation. I'm sure there's good information, but I just can't absorb it all fast enough.Sorry, but I can't listen to the rest of it.

[@snowbird6855]

There's 2-3 kids on the spectrum in every class. Ask teachers. Clearly something's wrong, this wasn't the case 40 years ago.

[@chriscohlmeyer4735]

Forty plus years ago those "level 2 & 3" ASD kids were kept at home or were sent to mental hospitals. Level 1/Aspergers kids were the weird kids that good teachers sent on odd errands if they saw them stimming too much or gone to another planet to give them a break to refocus... I liked when the teacher gave me several chalkboard erasures to pound on the outside school wall if some had been used with different coloured chalk, if the weather was bad then the important note to the principal (school secretary would send me off to the washroom and a drink of water) then return with the "answer" which the teacher put in the drawer "to check later". The bad teachers would demand that you look at them and not stim or she would smack your desk with a yardstick and yell at you (the early days of no hitting students). To survive those bad teachers we learned to mask while the good teachers taught us a few important social skills like don't tattle, don't belittle others, don't correct others after the others had left the classroom. In general we were not diagnosed, did not have learning plans, accommodations were by the teacher's past experience. New teachers were often a pain to put up with. Too often school was something we had to do that we only put enough effort into to pass each year. Then Jr High that I went to - 13 classes per grade of 30 students per class roughly divided by IQ. I was in the high IQ class in spite of just passing grade six. About 10% of the class was likely Aspergers only and 60% were Aspergers and ADHD (2e) and 30% were just smart - we were a pain for teachers that did not have a strong grasp of their subject or we found errors in the text books.

[@wolfdreams2000]

@Chris Cohlmeyer Bingo. When I was a child,my neighbor worked specifically with autistic kids in a different school. This has always been quite prevalent

[@snowbird6855]

CNN interview Dr Sanjay Gupta

[@snowbird6855]

Go look, my comments are getting censored

[@snowbird6855]

He interviewed the former CDC director, Julie Gerberding

[@Weird_guy79]

Knowing means nothing when an adult cant even get an assessment unless they can afford the exorbitant fee's. It's one huge money making scheme, at the expense of peoples existence.

[@Labradorite_Honu]

Can all of you please STOP using the name of an ACTUAL Nazi to describe people’s ability to process typically or divergently. Also Doctor please stop using outdated or discredited informational sources. It’s literally as bad as continuing to use the Nazi’s name. I have ADHD. We’re exploring right now if I also am ASD…. I had hoped for credible information and support. I didn’t find that here.

[@adrianalicea6704]

He literally said Asperger's isn't used anymore, did you listen??