Do I have to obey Saudi Rulers?| Br shamsi Confronted by Visitor | Speakers corner

[@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ]

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[@underberg3007]

may Allah bless brother shamsi and give him tawfeeq in his dawah

[@seekkeith23]

meanwhile in holy book of islam, a pagan origin of name muhammad! Who were a family of profit mu ham mad!!! who were these slaves of al lah in hell fire? (father) Abdullah ibn Abd al-Muttalib (mother) Amina bint Wahb (grand father) Abd al-Muttalib Shaybah ibn Hashim, Servant of Muttalib Muhammad they were slaves of pagan god , muttalib. On the seventh day he made sacrifice for him and invited Quraysh to see him. When they had feasted, they asked, "O Abd al-Mutalib, what have you thought of naming this son of yours you have honoured?" "I have named him Muhammad," he replied. "Why", they asked, "have you preferred him not to have one of the names of his kinsfolk?" "Because I wanted God to praise him in heaven and His creatures to praise him on earth," he replied. The name Muhammad (ﷺ) was given to the Prophet by his mother and grandfather, pagan god worshipers! the name Mohammed carries the meaning of “the praised one” or “the one who receives praise.” who is this pagan god, al lah of his mother and grandfather , was praised to? a pagan god!!!! Muhammad was praised by pagan gods!!! how many muslims named their babes muhmammad? al lah said these is my seal of false profit. WOW what a hahalala religion!

[@underberg3007]

@@seekkeith23 bro😂🤦🏻‍♂️ the people of makkah believed in allah but they worshiped other than him and the name muhammed means the praised one it has nothing to do with paganism unlike christianity which they worship a human who couldn’t protect himself

[@Saeed1vf]

From salafi yemeni, May Allah Bless Bro shamsi...

[@qq-np8xk]

I’m a Yemeni salafi too may allah bless you

[@ismailansari6916]

Ya ALLAH bless houthi❤❤

[@abdullahmahmud1298]

Assalamu Alaikum.... May Allah bless our brother shamsi with beneficial knowledge and iman .....Ameen Watching from Bangladesh.....

[@syad911]

Daniel H. and Ali needs Dawah followers keep hating on this brother while he reverted more than 100 individuals at this point, must be hurting for these seculars dais to see a dai mentioning Quran and Hadiths in his Dawah.

[@gkinguk]

even qadiani make these claims but Allah guides and may Allah guide shamsi to Islam

[@Salafiyahisthehaqq]

@@gkingukis he not a Muslim?

[@gkinguk]

@@Salafiyahisthehaqq Murji have their own religion

[@Salafiyahisthehaqq]

@@gkinguk so did the Salaf make takfir on the Murji’ah or just Tabdee’?

[@lhommemystere3938]

They are not secular, they may have some clear mistakes but saying they are secular is a pure lie.

[@ozone2126]

السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ

[@irfansaudagar3495]

Mashalla

[@a.i2963]

We are ordered by Allah to speak the truth and stand for justice .. the issue is if the truth is spoken in certain “Muslim” countries , you are jailed and labeled a terrorist. And Shamsi knows this very well… O believers! Stand firm for justice as witnesses for Allah even if it is against yourselves, your parents, or close relatives. Be they rich or poor, Allah is best to ensure their interests. So do not let your desires cause you to deviate ˹from justice˺. If you distort the testimony or refuse to give it, then ˹know that˺ Allah is certainly All-Aware of what you do. An-Nisāʾ, Ayah 135

[@Jammylune]

Thank you brother Jamal, for clarifying and making things clear. Otherwise, people will take it out context.

[@Kaplan_Fx]

those cowards that attacked shamsi . Qaatalahumullah

[@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ]

@@Kaplan_Fx we can't say that akh for sure plus this brother is not even from uk .plus those coward won't come down speakers Corner and have civil discussion with him.

[@AB-sj3wd]

I wonder what the Palestinians would say about the arab rulers

[@AbdurRahman-hh5sz]

Wonder what they would say about the Muslims who delve in all sorts of haram in the dunya. Whilst they are being slaughtered.

[@ponderingspirit1475]

Qur'an and Sunnah is the criteria, not any human's statement including Palestinians. We go back to the Qur'an and Sunnah with regards to how we deal with the Muslim rulers

[@Adil-uk7vh]

People who exaggerate in obeying the rulers need to read the Hadiths Sahih Bukhari 7257, Sahih Bukhari 4765 and Sahih Muslim 4776. What many of the scholars are preaching looks like what happened with the Pope in olden times. No questions asked, just obey the Pope. Yes, we should obey rulers but exaggeration in complying with the rulers and never opposing them is rooted in politics and maintaining their rule. Mixing such ideology with religion cements their power.

[@mohuss1804]

Fear Allah, nobody denies this. It is well known that you do not obey the ruler in disobedience to Allah ﷻ and his Messenger ﷺ. There is nobody who says to ‘exaggerate in obeying the ruler’, Shamsi says so at 2:52 in this video. BUT there is a big difference in not obeying them in evil and calling for revolt and revolution (khurooj)/ calling people to remove their hand from obedience altogether which is haram. Sahih Muslim 1848, Bukhari 2672 amongst dozens of other ahadeeth

[@Adil-uk7vh]

@@mohuss1804 You guys should fear Allah ta'la as well. Stop trying to establish a muslim pope.

[@mohuss1804]

@@Adil-uk7vh Unfortunately Adil, you saying that is not a proof from the Quran and Sunnah. Follow our Prophet's narrations and cling to them and leave your opinions behind. Quran 3:31 Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “If you ˹sincerely˺ love Allah, then follow me (i.e. the Prophet)..."

[@Adil-uk7vh]

@@mohuss1804 Gave you three Sahih Hadiths but you love your king master too much to hear anything against him.

[@mohuss1804]

@@Adil-uk7vh Yes and nobody denies the Ahadeeth but you look at one aspect and not the other. We hear and obey. If they command us with that which is forbidden we do not obey but this does not mean calling others to revolt and revolution even if they are evil. Yes, I love my master, the King of all Kings, Allah (tabaraka wa ta'ala) to hear anything that goes against his or his Prophet's teachings. May Allah guide us and guide you

[@wahyder]

He will not change... Ask him what happened in Algeria revolution?? 😂

[@smailrahmoun6041]

wwt

[@ponderingspirit1475]

Which scholars permit Khuruj? The Islamic Front in Algeria brought about bloodshed during the fitna

[@jpmorganrunsthegame1064]

I looked at the participants of the war. It says the Algerian government allied with the French, European Union and South Africa 👀

[@ponderingspirit1475]

@@jpmorganrunsthegame1064 why on earth would Algeria ally with France?

[@gameoverability1876]

what happened in algeria revolution? tell us. your comment makes no sense.

[@salem6537]

لا طاعة لمخلوق في معصية الخالق

[@sonofgod7099]

No Christian want to fight a Muslim in the speakers conner

[@guls1977]

Election is haram then what will u say about Arab sitting by force and called them kings

[@zoubeirfaouzi149]

I've always said Shamsi his knowledge is flawed. So you need to obey a corrupt leader that has become a leader in a corrupt way. And you can't rebel a corrupt leader because it can call fitnah(weird because we are already living in a fitnah) So this is what Samshi is saying. - If I'm not a leader and I'm against the corrupt leader I'm with the khawarij. - from the moment I personally take over that land by rebelling and become the new leader. Its fard for Shamsi to obey me to not cause more fitnah. So if you can find a grey area where you become a simple person to a leader. Suddenly Shamsi changes his way completely. This is why the logic of shamsi is flawed and can easily by refuted.

[@ponderingspirit1475]

The hadith says to hear and obey the leader, even if it's an Abyssian slave. It's not Shamsi's own opinion. You're misconstruing it. If someone usurps leadership we still have to obey him if he is Muslim and has not fallen into clear kufr. But this is so hypothetical what you're saying because Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Al Qayyim mentioned that every instant where Muslims did khuruj the harm always outweighed the benefit. الله يحديك

[@chef4823]

@@ponderingspirit1475 so the one who rebelled was considered from the khawarij at the time of his rebellion but if hes succesful he in doing so he now becomes a sunni salafi legitimate ruler lol. The difference between a khariji and a legitimate muslim ruler is if you succeed or not 😂😂 fabricated manhaj loool

[@ponderingspirit1475]

@@chef4823 who said becoming a leader by force makes one go from Khāriji to Salafi? The Khawārij who pursued leadership and fought against Ali and fought against Muawiyah رضي الله عنهم that didn't make them Salafi. You're saying fabricated manhaj, but when has khuruj brought any khayr, this is a hypothetical scenario being brought forth. Obedience to a leader is done even if he's a mubtadi', because that is not kufr bawah.

[@chef4823]

@@ponderingspirit1475 you said the one who rebels is a khariji then you said if the khariji takes control you dont rebel because he now becomes the legitimate sharii islamic ruler. So one second he is a khariji dog of the hell fire but if he succeeds he is now valid lol And this isnt hypothetical it happened in egypt.

[@newanas5271]

So why is shamsi criticising Hummus they just obeing their leader who was elected?

[@OCEAN-fc9wl]

Who is Hummus?

[@ponderingspirit1475]

I love eating hummus

[@OCEAN-fc9wl]

@@ponderingspirit1475 in syrian and hummus is like my favorite dish

[@ismailansari6916]

​@@OCEAN-fc9wlhamaas🤷‍♂️

[@Noodles-bn9ug]

No authoritarian in hadith or Quran to do hajj okay. No were in Quran that says you need a document so don't go there and say you need one. It's what Allah said not Saudi I am sick of this with people.

[@Ta0325]

The driver license doesn’t mention in Quran why you need to get a driver license to drive. This is out of ignorance.

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

Way this ruler don’t care that people over there pray to latt and uzza??

[@truthspeaker12]

if your god can have a son/sons why cant muslim god have daughters?😃

[@KINGSOMALIA]

@@truthspeaker12 dajjal

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

@@truthspeaker12 I am Alhamdulliah Muslim 💪🏻

[@NamaRauqos04595]

show proof that they worship them

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

@@NamaRauqos04595 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXOc6JsbpV5qtUsi=SA_OLtzjJY3PiRJu

[@gkinguk]

you only obey Allah there is no following of the one who does not rule by what Allah has revealed - the murji hate hadith like this The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A Muslim has to listen to and obey (the order of his ruler) whether he likes it or not, as long as his orders involve not one in disobedience (to Allah), but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed one should not listen to it or obey it. “Even if the one appointed over you is a mutilated Ethiopian slave whose nose and ears have been cut off, listen to him and obey, so long as he leads you according to the Book of Allah.” what do we learn from this that we only follow if they rule with shariah

[@denohart4929]

This Hadith means to follow in obedience in whatever doesn’t oppose what Allah has revealed

[@virtualwanderer]

You obey them in the good and not in the bad. The concept is simple. Anything you differ in referr it to Allah and His Messenger

[@denohart4929]

@@virtualwandererit’s a simple concept but it’s hard for the desires especially for those who love to takfir unjustly

[@ree3211]

And left out the other clear hadith which says to obey “even if he beats your back and takes your wealth, and doesn’t follow the guidance of the prophet.” Is the person spoken about ruling by shariah if he doesn’t follow the guidance? Clearly not. But yes, leave out the clear well known hadiths to ones that may been seen as ambiguous. Fear Allah.

[@neilsavage8915]

You have a man made book because nobody can prove that muhammad received anything from an angel.

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

WHO are those rulers if they don’t are for the ummah they nothing we need fast to replace tham alon to name a county after u Familiy is crazy

[@farisf7627]

We comfortable in Saudi and proud to be SAUDI, so leave us be for Allah sake, or you want Saudi to be destructed and torn as other muslim countries?

[@khalidibnwaleed574]

@@farisf7627 There is no nationalism here, Nationalization is a disease! Proud to be Muslim, and not Saudi, Algerian etc.

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

@@farisf7627 your king is a part of the destruction of Muslim country’s that’s way u comfortable ! And I wish the land of Mekka will have they name that the prophet peace be upon him used in sha Allah ! Your people start praying to uzza and latt like our prophet told us ! And the army of mehdi will fight who ? He will fight your people who will try to kill Mahdi

[@marouaneeljilali7989]

@@farisf7627may Allah bless you All saudi

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

@@farisf7627 These Saudis are a reason for the destruction of the Muslim countries and that's why you are comfortable alone with what you have done in Yemen. Our prophet said the best people come from Yemen and that your people will try to kill Mehdi but what do you do when the black flags invade ?will you fight them or join them? fitna will come from you, we also know that from our prophets, peace and blessings be upon him! Don't delete this comment this time or do you have something against the statements that our prophet made

[@mabsrahman8135]

I dare Shamsi to debate Sheikh musa ahmed. I dare him

[@ponderingspirit1475]

Ahmad Mūsa Jibrīl is a Khāriji who sent youth to ISIS during the Syrian civil war. He also endorses Abu Muhammad Al Adnani, former isis spokesperson. Does this sound like a Sunni to you?

[@sossox0]

madkhali ✡️

[@nissarmohammed3872]

Hajaj ibn yusuf killed abdullah ibn zubair, killed many thousand and imprisoned yet abdullah ibn umar and others still never over threw him.malik ibn Anas, said be patient.

[@freier4845]

What did he ruled with? Democracy or secularism in general? Or maybe Sharia? Hmmm...

[@CGJUGO80]

@@freier4845 He catapulted the Ka`bah...............do you understand what that means yā qutbī. Do you know what you bolshevik imitators would say about the rulers if they did that today???

[@freier4845]

@@CGJUGO80 what did he ruled with ya blindy

[@CGJUGO80]

@@freier4845 What would you say about Muḥammad bin Salmān (ḥafidhahūllâh) if he blasted the Ka`bah to kill for rulership?

[@ponderingspirit1475]

​@@freier4845he sieged the Ka'ba, he killed ulama of the Tabi'een. Forget democracy, he did a lot of heinous crimes, you gonna brush that to the side

[@iam_spindel]

Prophet said to follow a ruler who is muslim, Saudi arabia rulers ar munafiq why should we obey them? We can follow their goods and we aslo avoid their bads

[@ponderingspirit1475]

Ma Shā'a Allah, you are Shaykh Al KZbin making on takfir on Muslims. Fear Allah, who gave you authority to start passing takfir

[@iam_spindel]

@@ponderingspirit1475 Al saud follow muhammed bin wahab which was wahabi. Go read their background what they did for britain and what they did to al rashid. They are the reason UK entered pallestine.

[@ponderingspirit1475]

@@iam_spindel what is Wahhabiyyah?

[@senko_muratovic]

Obeying munafiqeen?

[@ponderingspirit1475]

No one tells you to obey munafiqeen. You should abandon this Khāriji nonsense of making takfir, as takfir will fall back on the one who does it unjustly

[@senko_muratovic]

@@ponderingspirit1475 I don't disagree on that. All I am saying, at what point the actions of our rulers are clearly those of the hypocrites. And do we still need to stay quiet "to avoid fitnah"?

[@saeedmazarei706]

​@ponderingspirit1475 what if it's just like shamsi and his Saudi rulers

[@ponderingspirit1475]

@@saeedmazarei706 his ruler is Tebboune

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

Shaik shamsi starbucksi who try to mock us by drinking Starbucks and he was so proud of it 😂 than he run after some kids fight him

[@pacidefrim8649]

May Allah guide you on the right path and Shefqet Krasniqin . May Allah bless our brother Shamsi he all speaks the truth up on the Quran and Sunnah on the way of the Salafu Sali.

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

@@pacidefrim8649 amin !Maybe he's telling the truth, but behavior also has a lot in Islam and if some people boycott and think it's a must, even if it's not a must, it's quite logical if I know I support the murder of our children and women, that men should avoid something like that and support it Murdering our sibling is certainly a big sin, but after that just because he finds something from the Sunna and Quran that it is not a duty then despite his Starbucks cup being proudly presented then we should know that there is something wrong with the brother, may Allah guide us

[@dardankrasniqi1567]

@@pacidefrim8649 Bro but you think about your self you are guided? Shaik paci starbucksi way u so sure u are on the right path ?

[@VexLooter]

Children with minimum brain functions should stick to following some takfiri tiktok sheikh and leave the people of the salaf for us grown ups.

[@D-A-H8585]

I have to break the news to you. Islam starts off with the self and the relationship with Allah. Anything outside this is mixed with dunya. Boycotting Starbucks is great on paper but in reality even in war countries do trade with each other. Best just start with yourself by establishing your prayer and the night prayers. Start with your immediate family and then neighbors and so on. Small steps make big steps.

[@Thomas20249]

Shamsi in his debates with christians is great, but when discussing politics, he is the biggest hypocrite...

[@farisf7627]

If he says something you don't like you call him hypocrite? Did you open his heart?

[@Salafiyahisthehaqq]

Actually you are Jaahil about the Sunnah and how islam teaches us to deal with the rulers.

[@Thomas20249]

@@Salafiyahisthehaqq وَلَا تَرْكَنُوا إِلَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا فَتَمَسَّكُمُ النَّارُ وَمَا لَكُم مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ مِنْ أَوْلِيَاءَ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ﴾ [ هود: 113] And do not obey the wrongdoers or you will be touched by the Fire. For then you would have no protectors other than Allah, nor would you be helped. Hud 113.. The only jaheel is none but you. Read your Quran, wearing glasses this time.. ليس هناك من جاهل سواك

[@Thomas20249]

@@farisf7627 And if he says something you like to hear, you turn your dagger towards me hhh

[@Salafiyahisthehaqq]

@@Thomas20249 And who said to obey wrong doers you utter donkey!

[@TT-hx9nj]

Shamsi mixing up istitaabah and takfír as usual. The Qaadi is needed to apply certsin ahkaam, but not the description. Sheikh Salih al-Fawzan and Sheikh Saalih aal al-sheikh - who you quoted - say the exact opposite of you, and say that every Muslim has to make takfîr on grave worshippers.

[@denohart4929]

When you apply the label what are the conditions of declaring someone a kaffir before giving the label? If someone falls into kufr do you give the label to them before or after removing the preventions of takfir?

[@TT-hx9nj]

@@denohart4929 This is a huge miscommunication. There are no preventive factors for clear-cut shîrk, other than al-ikrah. The dhaahir alone is enough to known whether or not somebody is mukrah. If the dhaahir is they are forced then no takfír. Otherwise takfír. The conditions are: 1. The statement or action of kûfr has to be established and confirmed (i.e. the person did the act). 2. It has to be an act of major shîrk/kúfr. The scholars have explained this in detail. See the book of الشيخ اسحاق بن عبد الرحمن بن حسن بن محمد بن عبد الوهاب called: رسالة تكفير المعين والفرق بين بلوغ الحجة وفهم الحجة. Also, read al-Durar as-Saniyyah, particular the refutations of Dawud bin Jirjis. All of this is explained. Example: قال رحمه الله كما في الدرر السنية (10/136):(فنقول: إذا كان يعمل بالكفر والشرك، لجهله، أو عدم من ينبهه، لا نحكم بكفره حتى تقام عليه الحجة؛ ولكن لا نحكم بأنه مسلم، بل نقول عمله هذا كفر، يبيح المال والدم، وإن كنا لا نحكم على هذا الشخص، لعدم قيام الحجة عليه؛ لا يقال: إن لم يكن كافرا، فهو مسلم، بل نقول عمله عمل الكفار، وإطلاق الحكم على هذا الشخص بعينه، متوقف على بلوغ الحجة الرسالية. وقد ذكر أهل العلم: أن أصحاب الفترات، يمتحنون يوم القيامة في العرصات، ولم يجعلوا حكمه حكم الكفار، ولا حكم الأبرار). وقال بعدها :(وأما قولكم: وهل ينفع هذا المؤمن المذكور، ما معه من أعمال البر، وأفعال الخير، قبل تحقيق التوحيد؟ فيقال: لا يطلق على الرجل المذكور اسم الإسلام، فضلا عن الإيمان; بل يقال: الرجل الذي يفعل الكفر، أو يعتقده في حال جهله، وعدم من ينبهه، إذا فعل شيئا من أفعال البر، وأفعال الخير، أثابه الله على ذلك، إذا صحح إسلامه وحقق توحيده، كما يدل عليه حديث حكيم بن حزام: "أسلمت على ما أسلفت من خير. وأما الحج الذي فعله في تلك الحالة، فلا نحكم ببراءة ذمته، بل نأمره بإعادة الحج، لأنا لا نحكم بإسلامه في تلك الحالة، والحج من شرط صحته الإسلام؛ فكيف نحكم بصحة حجه وهو يفعل الكفر، أو يعتقده؟ ولكنا لا نكفره إلا بعد قيام الحجة عليه، فإذا قامت عليه الحجة وسلك سبيل المحجة، أمرناه بإعادة الحج، ليسقط الفرض عنه بيقين).

[@TT-hx9nj]

@@denohart4929 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaO1f4qMlrKpirsfeature=shared

[@TT-hx9nj]

@@denohart4929 قال رحمه الله كما في الدرر السنية (10/136):(فنقول: إذا كان يعمل بالكفر والشرك، لجهله، أو عدم من ينبهه، لا نحكم بكفره حتى تقام عليه الحجة؛ ولكن لا نحكم بأنه مسلم، بل نقول عمله هذا كفر، يبيح المال والدم، وإن كنا لا نحكم على هذا الشخص، لعدم قيام الحجة عليه؛ لا يقال: إن لم يكن كافرا، فهو مسلم، بل نقول عمله عمل الكفار، وإطلاق الحكم على هذا الشخص بعينه، متوقف على بلوغ الحجة الرسالية. وقد ذكر أهل العلم: أن أصحاب الفترات، يمتحنون يوم القيامة في العرصات، ولم يجعلوا حكمه حكم الكفار، ولا حكم الأبرار). وقال بعدها :(وأما قولكم: وهل ينفع هذا المؤمن المذكور، ما معه من أعمال البر، وأفعال الخير، قبل تحقيق التوحيد؟ فيقال: لا يطلق على الرجل المذكور اسم الإسلام، فضلا عن الإيمان; بل يقال: الرجل الذي يفعل الكفر، أو يعتقده في حال جهله، وعدم من ينبهه، إذا فعل شيئا من أفعال البر، وأفعال الخير، أثابه الله على ذلك، إذا صحح إسلامه وحقق توحيده، كما يدل عليه حديث حكيم بن حزام: "أسلمت على ما أسلفت من خير. وأما الحج الذي فعله في تلك الحالة، فلا نحكم ببراءة ذمته، بل نأمره بإعادة الحج، لأنا لا نحكم بإسلامه في تلك الحالة، والحج من شرط صحته الإسلام؛ فكيف نحكم بصحة حجه وهو يفعل الكفر، أو يعتقده؟ ولكنا لا نكفره إلا بعد قيام الحجة عليه، فإذا قامت عليه الحجة وسلك سبيل المحجة، أمرناه بإعادة الحج، ليسقط الفرض عنه بيقين).

[@denohart4929]

@@TT-hx9njI had it translated since I can’t read Arabic, so the muslim who falls into an action of Kufr is not a Muslim or disbeliever? Lol what?

[@johnogroats3318]

Religion is the biggest sign of a weak mind.

[@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ]

Yet you here watching religion videos perfect logic

[@johnogroats3318]

@@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ it’s just fascinating watching the show

[@CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer]

Alright "we come from nothing, our ancestors were chimps" gigamind.

[@johnogroats3318]

@@CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer however it works yeah. There’s as much evidence for that as there is for some kind of god like character that ‘has a little plan for us all’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ponderingspirit1475]

Atheism is a mental health problem

[@Happane]

Stay away from wahabis

[@ponderingspirit1475]

What is Wahhabiyyah, ya Shaykh?