DO MEN WANT CAREER (BOSS BABE) WIVES? - EP1 || BITTER TRUTH SHOW

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[@AliDawah]

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[@nedahiliyas]

Assalaamualaykum brother! You should talk to men & women who are Muslim and are from the Asian countries like India, Pakistan etc. the girls want to work and make their own money because husbands don’t want to spend even if they are earning well.

[@umadkhan50]

Ali dawah is a red pill clown.. dont give him a single pound

[@NDZ446]

Amazing 👏 part 2 needed brother Ali. There needed to be more videos like this.

[@lindentree111]

It was kind of funny to me to see the attitude of men and women in this panel, in which my brothers in Islam seemed to be more shy than my sisters. (I felt more hayaa' energy from them, especially smile2jannah may Allah bless him) May Allah guide and protect us all.

[@iyadaldwaik3954]

If there would be no career women who’s gonna teach the women later on? Who’s gonna be the Doctor who attend this women? Who’s gonna carry these roles where we women ourself supposed to need?

[@SamAntha-wx8gy]

Note: Islam is not what men want, Islam is about what Allah wants.

[@shawanafarhat542]

Thank you

[@archonofpigeons]

Goes both ways, but gender based narciscism is just sad

[@naderallo8155]

Not what men nor women want. In the noble Qur'an Al'lāh draws the picture of providing men.

[@AbdulRahman-ub4lr]

And Allah wants women to be obedient to their men.

[@mianatwood]

Islam is what the Quran and the prophet(saw) taught and the prophet’s wives fully covered their faces and also never left the house for no reason. They weren’t feminists either, they were obedient women. Unlike most women in the West nowadays, including muslim women that grew up here from childhood.

[@ruddin93]

After watching this video, it clearly shows the heart of the problem - We don't treat marriage as an act of ibadah (worship). Instead, it is all about our nafs (ego) - what I feel to be good or bad. We should put The Qur'an & The Sunnah first before our feelings, BOTH men and women. Consult with the people of knowledge who are specialised in marriage and take their advice if they provided evidences from The Qur'an & The Sunnah. Learn the fiqh of marriage before getting married.

[@rjbch14]

thank you!!

[@thefishychannel1420]

Are you living in the stone ages? modern world also functions. you need to adapt to the changing environment or else all these muslim countries are going to be sitting ducks

[@alphauno6614]

@@thefishychannel1420 no one wants to copy the sheer divorce rate and single mother epidemic

[@thefishychannel1420]

@@alphauno6614 yes true but they also don't WANT to give up their careers.

[@nafeesa1025]

Khadijah (RA) who was the mother of the believers had 3 daughters from her first 2 marriages and she was also an entrepreneur. She divided her time between upbringing her daughters and expanding her business. And even after getting married to the Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), they both continued to run their business together. Khadijah (RA) did her due allegiance to her children, family, religion despite being a business woman. I think Finding the balance between the two can be hard but its definitely possible .

[@khanmaryam2012]

Source?

[@saidrew1030]

@@khanmaryam2012 This is basic knowledge. If you don't know this I suggest you look more into the life of the prophet (saw) and his wives

[@alphauno6614]

She wasn’t going out working 8-12 hours a day. Instead she had staff that did the heavy lifting,. Can’t exactly use her example

[@alphauno6614]

@@stormavicious okay you do you. This video is about women who voluntarily spend time with non mahrem men being all sweet and chummy for no necessary reason.

[@Theoneandonlyyjinx]

@@alphauno6614 bro get a life

[@vanillasmootae3575]

Girls if you want to be a housewife that’s okay but GET THAT EDUCATION! Depend on a man because you want, not because you need to.

[@Umaima_Faheem]

I couldn't agree more my sister. I have the experience first-hand. I have known such a woman since I was born. She was a clinical doctor before her 4th child, but then became a housewife to take better care of her children, may Allah SWT grant her Jannat-ul-firdous. But the money her husband sent was so little(he was working abroad), her children would've lived a very unhappy life if she wouldn't have stepped up, used her education, gotten a PG and get employed as a professor in a medical school. She lived her youth only for her children. Now that I am mature enough, I think it is completely wrong to leave your wife for years and only visit her for a week every year! And the husband was evidently not liked by the children because whenever he would visit, he made the house the constraint of any joy whatsoever, the children had a few hours of happiness when he would leave the house to meet his friends. They would watch cartoon, which he didn't allow them when he was present in the house. The only good quality he had to offer for his children was discipline and fortunately made them good better at school. The Mother was the children's source of everything, she is beloved & cherished by all. She is still unmarried, providing for her two daughter's living expenses, education and so much more while the other two kids are living with their father to pursue higher education. The kids with the father have noticed significant changes in the man's behavior as he is getting old and now, he's more softer in approach, but as they say, people don't change so much..he still has a tendency of making the kids unhappy. He is controlling but loves his kids, he's working hard for them to provide for them, maybe..he has realized what mistakes he has made and is trying to do better. But he will be unforgiven by his children for what he done to them and their mother and most importantly to all of them, as a family. May Allah give them enough strength so that they can forgive their father. So my beloved sisters, I encourage you to get educated to a degree where if unfortunately, the time comes, you are not miserable and dependent on a bad husband. May Allah SWT bless us with a husband who is pious, has deen and akhlaakh. A Husband who practice his Hijab correctly, is a good father to your children, abides by the laws of Islam, has good compatibility with you , you both bring peace into each other's life and most importantly, you both bring each other closer to Allah. Ameen😌🤲🏻✨🤍

[@hellokitty10117]

yuppp!!!

[@JonathanSilva-vq6cg]

For the next session like this please have wives and husbands on to discuss how the marriage works and who has what role. Single people discussing marriage is nice but a married perspective is even better. Thank you

[@asyadelmont]

I completely agree

[@khaledabegum1208]

Very well said

[@mof2273]

Absolutely agree. Single sisters want advice on how to get married but refused to lissen to brothers and sisters who are married and have a successful marriage Alhamdulilah.

[@f0x106]

yes

[@MiasSerenity]

@Ibrahim Khan one thats not controlling

[@skyedouglas7109]

As a housewife this pressure from other woman is true I can’t count how many times other woman have said to me o your just a housewife? Don’t you want to work? What do you do all day? And it’s very degrading I love cooking and cleaning and taking care of my children and teaching them our values. I don’t want to leave that to some other person in a daycare. I understand sometimes you have no choice but to work but once your married if you have married a good man he needs to take the role of a provider. And if he wants you to pay for everything and can’t take on that role then he wasn’t ready for marriage

[@watvid1]

May Allah reward you. My wife does the same, she did some work from home using a hobby she was good at but apart from that, she just wants to raise the kids. If I was a woman, I'd love to be a housewife, who wants to deal with bosses, colleagues, customers 9-5

[@mannypenny7731]

You're not just a housewife but the head teacher of your own children's madrasah ( school). So what people say should not put you down. Don't forget you're raising Muhammad saw Ummah. As a man, I would never ever be able to do what you can do. Heads up sister👍👍🤲🤲

[@skyedouglas7109]

@@watvid1exactly I use to work in customer service before I met my husband and I’d never want to go back to that. I help my husband with some of the administrative side of his business but my priorities are our children and our home and his needs

[@recko800]

You may not realize this right now but your kids will appreciate you so much when they become adults inshAllah may Allah bless you and your family

[@recko800]

@@skyedouglas7109 the government hates this they want women to work to more people more money they don’t care about any rights or anything just MONEY

[@The-Powertree-Alchemist]

That female doctor who is on call Is the same doctor or midwife you ask for when you don’t want a male doctor looking and checking your wife.

[@sabrinajuneyd614]

lol THANK YOUUU!!!!!!!

[@alphauno6614]

That’s true. These women would make good second wives. That way you can have your first wife take care of the children in the absence of the second

[@ubayyd]

mad ting innit

[@leila_de_hautjardin]

Well said !

[@haniii4127]

I always dreamed of being a housewife as well as a novelist and dressmaker. I also want to have an online writing class where all the work can be done at home without leaving the obligations as a wife and mother. I hope it comes true when I get married.

[@zoomtutor2925]

I hope you find your match. Personally I would marry a person with similar priorities as you and most reasonable Muslim men would as well.

[@DestinyToParadise]

“A great marriage is not when the 'perfect couple' comes together. It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.” ― Dave Meurer

[@esthellakomerl8084]

Exactly. There is NO perfect couple. Just happy couples who know how to respect each other, embrace differences and aim to bring up children in a calm environment.

[@Nope991]

This quote is misleading

[@DestinyToParadise]

@@Nope991 Probably you, unfortunately, met the wrong person or are not marriage material, at all!

[@DestinyToParadise]

@@esthellakomerl8084 Absolutely, thanks :)

[@Nope991]

@@DestinyToParadise Neither. I just can see things and understand things you can't. If you don't delete this comment and it misleads people I hope Allah hold you accountable for it. Just because you're causing harm to society. I can understand the quote clearly but many will not.

[@SarahtheSoldier]

Marriage does *NOT* revolve solely around what men want- it's supposed to fulfil both partners.

[@hbk3119]

Working woman here, for the passed 11years. I have had to, it’s tough, I feel like I’ve missed out on my kids childhood. I’m tired, my most deepest wish is for my husband to sole provider, and give me a chance to be the traditional wife and mother I want to be. I wish I could homeschool my kids , it’s very needed right now. The home environment today in these times,is the most important thing. And this is how we contribute to building a solid Ummah!

[@sareedoahmed1751]

I felt it too sis, we moved to another city from London us to be able to afford for me to stay at home for few years. However now it's hard getting back to the work field since I've been home last 3 year. But also part time job that at least cover the kids costs and extra pocket money. It's really damned if you do damned if don't. Also my mum always works and was sole provider.. And she inspired me to be a go getter. I hope your kids value this.

[@WalidNaima]

Ali, with all due respect. Let the other men speak. If you're short on time, facilitate more time for the discussions. The whole thing becomes useless when the points and discussions are constantly getting cut short. Great format of a show, looking forward to more.

[@mr1go]

Ali won't pay any attention to advice in comments either. He only likes comments that praise him. He needs to learn and improve. I find him hard to watch.

[@Ukhti.fantak45]

@@dm_1236 Or you can give him advice on how to improve instead of having the mindset to dish him and replace with him someone else. This is more beneficial.

[@user-db5hhb]

stop blue pilling

[@zairafarogh1577]

Yes i agree. I ll suggest you people to watch Youth clubs podcasts. Those are really well thought, on point, totally relatable and extremely calm and informative.

[@ribenariri7764]

I feel like Ali should be part of the panel as oppose to being the host. The job of the host is to be the unbias party who direct the discussion and conversation rather than give their own views of the topic. They are also there to challenge and question responses of panelists so there is depth to understanding their views of a given topic. I also feel like the kick off question was a very loaded question and it lacked context which is why panelists took the discussion anywhere they wanted, so when the discussion lacked a focal point and an aim, it becomes too broad and lacks depth. I think the topic needed an introduction to present context of our current society or where its heading regarding gender roles. Explain whats the issue, why its an issue, define terms, are we discussing of extreme cases of the topic, are they becoming more prevalent. Great start however, this discussion just lacked context and a strong aim. Just my feedback hehe😅

[@husnishamri4793]

Being a doctor and contributing to the community is one of the most noble professions there are. And some areas like women health, child's health and mental health, we still need women in this. And having issues of having women to work as doctors (unlike being corporate bosses), is dangerous.

[@tunepa4418]

This same men will seek female doctors to treat their wives in the hospital

[@mumshorts]

Agreed. It's different a women being a doctor or one working in retail by choice ofcourse

[@highlightdaily4828]

This pretext of “muh we need wahmen doctor” is so played out and low iq atp. We know your *real* agenda that you’re trying to shoehorn

[@jeslaabduljaleel8518]

There are a lot of other treatments methods other than the allopathy that are effective more than the allopathy itself. In India, we have aquipuncture treatment which only require one year course ( i know many people personally) and they cured many major diseases like cancer and other health problems which required surgeries. Alhamdulillah. They don't have any side effects like surgeries and other drugs. Some of them even work as midwives, from their experiences they had dealt many delivery complications according to allopathy which would have resulted in c- section. One example A woman broke her water a day or two ( i don't remember exactly how many days but it's still early) before her delivery and the baby comes out fine. This is not just one case but they had a few similar cases like this. So I don't think we need a allopathy doctors as much as we think. Only a few will be enough. In case if any other treatments doesn't not work for some people.

[@husnishamri4793]

@@jeslaabduljaleel8518 the funny thing is, why I was listening to this video, there was an advertisement. Of course, the Islamic one. They talked about how we have to channel the skills/blessings that we have to help people with no access to it like people in war crisis/poverty. One area we are still lacking of is healthcare

[@AnwarSab]

Yes, they should. Why? I want my wife to either have a career or a business. Because if something happens to me, major illness, job loss or even death....she will be able to maintain the household and care for our children.

[@sabrinajuneyd614]

so validd!!!

[@Outofthisworld794]

My parents always had 2jobs My father: teacher in morning and evening shifts My mother: teacher in morning and full time mother Both worked hard to provide and nurture us❤

[@tarikata5524]

Salaam, I have to say that the women present a point of view that's more grounded in reality. I say this as an imam who's seen and dealt with dozens of marriage scenarios. The brothers, specifically Ali and Zeshaan (whose content I very much appreciate and recommend), are more focused on the ideological debates of Speaker's Corner which are not reflective of the average family. Please continue to have these conversations.

[@hakunamatata3935]

Well said

[@urwashahid9210]

the brother in the black cap is the most reasonable man among the men present in this video. He gave me hope. Wish he had more opportunity to speak. Also the men that keep bringing examples such as "I wouldn't want my wife to be a doctor" are the first people to demand a female doctor when their wife has to be seen

[@e.k874]

DW sister they think doctors ganna want to marry them lmao

[@victors3130]

It’s because he’s an American. There’s something in the British waters

[@93boxing81]

@Total BINJIN shipper4ever #CLOY marrying someone isnt haram. The point I am making is if she is saying a man like that "gives him hope" then why dont women like her marry men like her. It's because men like that are beta and they deep down dont want those men. That is the point of my comment.

[@93boxing81]

@Total BINJIN shipper4ever #CLOY Actually if you see before there is another comment saying the same thing. Women say one thing and do another. Within the men that are not for all of this women empowerment this is a common belief. It's very helpful. Because men with no experience with women will watch her speak and night believe that being that guy she is describing will make him more desirable to his future wife.

[@93boxing81]

@Total BINJIN shipper4ever #CLOY then marry someone like that. And treat him like the head of the house, obey and be submissive to him.

[@ruaismail3426]

That's why as a women in her late 20s. l am not married. The expectations of these men are just unrealistic the current world we live in is more harsher than that.. If me and my sister don't work the whole family will go on the street. Same my friend she is the only one who is providing for her mom, dad and sister (she pay her sister University expenses) they will go homeless immediately. All my friends are working because there is no other option no one ever proposed to us no one would we do except careers. Stay at home starving to death?

[@ayeshaakbarali9316]

I have two daughters and I pray they grow up to be competent to give back to the ummah- either as a female doctor, teacher, counselor or islamic scholar. Yes we need more women in roles that actually help other women and families.

[@ha6606]

"Boss babes" in the making...They will be 40 and wonder "Where have all the good men gone"

[@MH-bf4uu]

@@ha6606 how is having a job a bad thing😂, you are just a selfish individual saying that men can have kids and go after their dreams, but wonem can only have kids

[@cooljool1]

@@MH-bf4uu alot of jobs make you unattractive as a woman

[@niqabinextdoor3045]

Hope they do in Sha Allah. And hope they get amazing spouses who support them and provide for them both financially and mentally. And hope they get to serve the ummah. Aameen.

[@Zmokstil]

@@MH-bf4uu That's the issue though isn't it? We've put our "dreams" before what Allah SWT expects from us. Not saying women shouldn't work. The Muslim community needs women to be involved and take on professional roles. But if we put our dreams and careers before what Allah SWT expects from us, then our Muslim children are doomed to baby sisters, day cares, TV and internet to guide them. As is what is happening now. Not sure how aware you are (maybe you are and maybe you aren't) but it's shocking just how much dawah away from basic Islamic teachings is being done to our children on a daily basis. If parents aren't deeply involved in what their kids are consuming, let them not be surprised when their kids are indoctrinated and guided to a different way of life. I can' tell you how heartbreaking it is to see a father come to the masjid, crying for someone to please talk to their child who has left Islam. Working is fine for both partners. But as Muslim parents, I believe our dreams should revolve around the upbringing children that will carry on the torch of Islam with confidence and grace after we're gone. How can we do that effectively if both parents are career focused? This is isn't a call to stop people working. But a call to balance and reevaluating our priorities and purpose in life. The notion of the "American dream" and following your passions has been so deeply drilled into us, that the most noble thing a parent (mother or father) can do, which is raise upstanding, God fearing children, is looked down upon. I think we need to ponder over the Hadith about Jannah being under the feet of the mother a bit more carefully. Saying that a women with kids is somehow less accomplished than a man who pursues his dreams, is the biggest lie the west has been trying to shove down our throats. Based on Quran and Hadith, Allah SWT has honored our mothers (who are indeed simply women with children) far greater than any man who might be an astronaut, a world class brain surgeon, or the CEO of Apple. If Jannah is the greatest reward a person can attain, what does that say about value of the mother, who's feet have been placed above it?

[@MahsaSara]

Hazrat Umar Ibn Al Khattab (R.A.) said: “No man can have anything better after faith (Iman) than a woman of righteous character, loving and child-bearing.”❤💞🤎🧡💛💚💙

[@TRUTHISKING1337]

God bless Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz :)

[@adnanrashtogi4553]

And what type of concubines should he have ??

[@mgigachad3170]

@@TRUTHISKING1337 shia momment 🤡🤡🤡

[@KandahariHadithLover]

@@TRUTHISKING1337 kaffir dog

[@user-yh3pn1he2w]

@@TRUTHISKING1337 may Allah's curse be upon those who glorify the killers of umar bin khattab (ra)

[@primeminister1040]

I think there are certain jobs where women are required, for example : when I take my wife to a hospital to give birth I would like for her to be treated by a female doctor(this can be applied to any form of healthcare activity) . Women can be teachers to teach other girls and women in school, or be store owners for women-only shops and such and such. In fact, women's active implication in society reduces gender mixing because women can just work and shop and be active in female exclusive spaces most of the time, it's really a win win deal. The idea that all women should stay at home is actually unrealistic and never have been the case in our Islamic history. The main concern of the early scholars was to prevent haram relationships outside of marriage, that was their priority, not erasing women from the public sphere.

[@SJ-yd6zi]

Please do tell us what is so empowering about women going to university for subjects like gender studies?

[@primeminister1040]

@kuro saigatsu there is nothing wrong with that, you have a materialistic way of looking at education. What if a woman wants to study physics because she just enjoys physics.

[@Someone-vr7me]

@@SJ-yd6ziliterally nobody mentioned gender studies . What are you on

[@yamilahj9666]

Yup I agree its unislamic to condemn and say most women sole purpose in life is to stay at home cook clean and tend to their husband. Lots of Muslim women have dreams aspirations in life I’m currently in school for aerospace engineering. It’s a way to keep women always in need of a man and stay since being financially dependent on a persons mean you will put up with alot of things 🙃

[@denizislek5304]

I agree no way would I have wanted man helping me give birth

[@imaanmaclin4399]

It’s a shame that this current climate was not discussed and how difficult it is to survive as a family on one income. This seems like realistic common circumstances faced by many married couples/families.

[@alphauno6614]

If you can’t survive with one income that means your job isn’t that impressive. That means you will have no problem moving to another area that is cheaper. Problem solved

[@nadyayousef6886]

It should be mentioned that sometimes both parents have to work in this expensive time. I think and we shouldn’t shame those couples we should encourage them to work hard and find a way to eventually get to a financial means where the father can be the sole provider and the mother can stay with the kids. We can’t always talk about the ideal situation

[@alphauno6614]

@@nadyayousef6886 This video wasn’t referring to people in poverty. You do what you have and God will reward you.

[@hardplabber1859]

Reduce your expenses. You need baraka. Definitely your income is not less than Hazrat Ali (ra)

[@asyadelmont]

@@nadyayousef6886 100% correct. Alot of these discussions are bassed on ideals as apposed to reality.

[@Ascension1004]

Men fear working women because we have the power and freedom to walk away when the marriage fails. A woman who doesn't work will be stuck

[@freespirit7835]

Interesting comment. Given that women are more emotional than men, whenever things get difficult they will or may break up the marriage, perseverance goes out of the window. Men should be worried.

[@happytaffy3366]

I know many instances within Muslim marriages where the man has cheated or done drugs and left their job sometime into a long marriage with kids so of course the woman has to break it off! I have no trust in a man hence I want to work to be stable myself in fear of that happening to me. Indeed the fitnah of women is scary for our men

[@_mohyddin]

if you are muslim, then I suggest you go learn about your religion and what marriage is and the rulings for it. Of course I wouldn't want someone with such attitude towards marriage to raise my children. I can tell you are a working woman because you sound like you think of marriage as an employment contract..

[@SH_cowdungfighter]

Freedome to walk away with another man when the current one is not good enough

[@The-Powertree-Alchemist]

My co wife is over 40 she’s stunningly beautiful. She looks younger than her age. She is fit like no tomorrow. Her skin looks younger than mine and I’m 29. She still gets her period and is able to conceive. So I don’t know where you’re getting they get uglier go lower. Anybody who doesn’t look after their health will go down hill it’s got nothing to do with age.

[@cooljool1]

worthless anecdotes don't mean much. they get more unattractive as they grow older. thats pretty established. nobody wants a woman over 40

[@The-Powertree-Alchemist]

@@cooljool1 but muhammed pbuh did when he married Khadija. Or when he married sawda when she was 80. You see it’s people with this mentality that drive people far away from Islam. Bring me a verse where Allah discriminates age. When you end up having a daughter who doesn’t get married till the age of 40 or perhaps her husband dies at 37 and two years later she wants to get married would you be saying the same thing?

[@ottopotatum5775]

@@The-Powertree-Alchemist he did it for political reasons not for beauty.

[@Haabsa22024]

Bit disappointed with the men’s side here. Usually find myself agreeing with what a lot of Zeeshan and Ali have to say. In this particular scenario there wasn’t much explanation of their opinions against a woman’s career other than making quite big, and at times extreme, assumptions or just saying buzzwords such as “boss babes” or “feminism”. It would have been a more fruitful discussion if they listened a bit more to what was said and responded with a well thought out rebuttal rather than just blurting out buzzwords.

[@karimtemri1664]

They were influenced by Tate

[@GodPilledZen]

Daniel Haqiqtjou would’ve been the guy to bring to this conversation

[@leomichelin7632]

I don't think they are trying to belittle carrer women. The point which they are trying to make is that family should be priority and not the career . Kids and husband need attention. I had colleague who had a career and earned a lot of money, but her relationship with husband was very bad. Cause all the time she was tired and didn't show him any care. He was complaining about it and showed interest in other women. (It is not right obviously)

[@nazimashaikh3921]

Bit Disappointed with Zeeshaan to be honest, he normally is very open minded and wise but on this discussion I didn't agree with his notion that a career woman would have "masculine traits" . There are so many couples who both work in order to have a comfortable life, paying the mortgage for example would require two incomes in the home, we live in a high inflation society so the wife working sometimes is out of necessity, but that doesn't mean she's going to act like a "boss" at home.... This kind of comment from men stems from his own insecurities. Women nowadays like to be financially independent and they do not want to depend on her husband especially if the husband is miserly and she has to beg or justify her every penny spent, so if she wants to earn her own money,OR wants to support her husband financially, what's wrong with that? Doesn't mean a Career woman will have masculine traits because of it...don't forget Hadhrat Khadijah was a business woman so by definition also a working woman or a career woman. Brother Zeeshaan is a teacher by profession....i find it very disturbing that he thinks married woman should not have careers. I hope he's not teaching this nonsense to little girls and boys in his classroom. He should be encouraging Girls to have a good education and be intellectual's with good careers to serve the society. Not teaching them to become full-time Housewives! (By the way i have nothing against full-time Housewives, i am a stay-at-home-mum myself so please don't jump on the "Feminist!" Bandwagon!)

[@Shahid-if4ws]

Brother Zeeshan was fair, there is a difference between having a job and being career oriented... reality is a human can only truly focus properly on 1 thing at a time. And Islamically child education comes first. However if a couple have no children, then women have more freedom to work/job....but I personally would never marry a career oriented woman who's first priority is her career. Action speaks louder than words. حَدَّثَنَا مُسَدَّدٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ تُنْكَحُ الْمَرْأَةُ لأَرْبَعٍ لِمَالِهَا وَلِحَسَبِهَا وَجَمَالِهَا وَلِدِينِهَا، فَاظْفَرْ بِذَاتِ الدِّينِ تَرِبَتْ يَدَاكَ ‏"‏‏.‏ Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A woman is married for four things, i.e., her wealth, her family status, her beauty and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman (otherwise) you will be a losers. Sahih al-Bukhari 5090 sunnah.com/bukhari:5090

[@user-ec5qg9xf7j]

Don’t request a female doctor for your wife then if she’s not allowed to be a doctor herself. Don’t put restrictions on women and pick and choose what they should and shouldn’t do

[@mo.sharif1]

He never said that. He said that they can focus on their careers after having their kids.

[@alphauno6614]

There’s nothing wrong with a woman being cared for by a male doctor if a female one is not available. I’m fact it’ll be better since they have more experience

[@user-ec5qg9xf7j]

@@alphauno6614 I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it but a man like him would most likely request a female doctor for his wife. There would be no female doctors left in the world if all men stopped their wives from being doctors. Allah has given free will but these men take it away from women and dictate their lives

[@jessicakonik9764]

This!!! 👏🏼

[@al-aminhussain8052]

@@mo.sharif1 what's wrong with working before having kids they need to stay busy

[@katielarsen2630]

It's not all or nothing, you can have a career and make it a larger or smaller part of your life depending on your situation. I worked full time until my daughter was born, then I went to remote work with very limited hours after she was born. Now alhamdilallah my kids are older and in school so I'm spending more time on work. Alhamdilallah I'm so lucky to have that flexibility. So many people need money and if I'm able to spend my free time earning money and giving in charity I think that's a blessing

[@cooljool1]

its a trade-off. the flexibility you're talking about is not afforded to most people. career oriented women are not good partners because careers is not something men look for in a woman and because alot of careers make women economically dysfunctional i.e. their work is not compatible with starting a family

[@vintagepotato653]

@@cooljool1 it’s funny you say that because women have been working for the entirety of humanity- farming, dressmaking, milk,aids, general maids have always existed Lmfao@- and they still took care of their families, it’s just the difference now is that the work is much more official. People think it’s a feminist trait to be a working woman but women have always worked and earned their money

[@fa155al]

@@vintagepotato653 it really hasn’t. Majority of women want their equal or better. Most women want to be spoiled, look after, financial elements taken care of. He needs to earn X amount of money, someone taller stronger than them etc etc Men very simply want someone who’s attractive and submissive. Beyond this additional things like having a job doesn’t move the needle to attract a man. Ultimately why go and focus after things that don’t make you MORE desirable to your future spouse? What men look for in a spouse is not the same as a woman, therefore just because women find status and wealth attractive doesn’t mean men do. And if you CHOOSE as a women to chase and have a career you’re not adding anything to your attraction level. If you were to learn skills and traits that were more “traditional” this would make you more attractive. So the issue is not women can’t work or have a job it’s that men aren’t attracted by this nor does it increase the likelihood of getting married

[@vintagepotato653]

@@fa155al I see you, but the thing is women don’t do it to attract men though- although like In south Asian cultures btw families do look for what the girl does for a living, here they care about what you studied and not. Biologically yes woman staying at home and man providing is ideal however the world doesn’t work simply on biology- there are financial situational and societal factors as well. And I agree with ali with the fact that while having children the wife should stay at home but once they’ve grown up the wife can start working- because what are u gonna do being cooped up at home all day? Women in the past were able to because they had access to nature and lived in communities but in the modern world most people live in tiny apartments where often there’s not even sunlight. And communities well most people u know lives far away and are probably busy. U see where I’m coming from

[@fa155al]

@@vintagepotato653 I see where you’re coming from to an extent. If women don’t do it to attract men , no problem but then don’t have an expectation that the man has to agree to you working otherwise he’s backwards and oppressing. Remember it’s not the issue of women going to work , it’s remembering majority of men don’t care especially high value guys who are top earners. And there is PLENTY to life than working. Read the Quran, Learn a skill, learn art, read, watch shows, learn bakery, go out with friends, list is endless.

[@rthgi0404]

Sad? Talk to Allah. Happy? Praise Allah. Problems? Ask Allah for help. Depressed? Cry to Allah.

[@Discipline1232]

Depression is a myth

[@anima_015]

@@Discipline1232 man I wish that was true

[@anima_015]

@@EV-EV-EV He responds, you just can't hear it

[@Discipline1232]

@@anima_015 But it is true, depression is a societal construct. You never see people depressed in the third world countries even though they go through stuff on daily basis that we wouldn't even imagine and still we end up being the depressed one's. It's a new concept that has come into reality due to people in western societies becoming too weak and emotional. Today society tells us that it's ok to just sit and cry all day like a lil kid and play the victim but you have to realize that that's simply not ok, Feeling sad or down sometimes is one thing but it should never go any step further then that specially as someone whit a purpose in life thanks to our strong faith alhamdulillah. Keep your head up and move forward, never forget to praise the all mighty and be grateful to him for everything you have been blessed with in this dunya. Jazakallah khairan.

[@khilafahempire]

May ALLAH rant you jannah ameen

[@BL423R]

One criticism: Ali you spoke a lot in here and didn't really let the panels from either side speak, the 17 year old boy and Zeeshan were dropping some gems and needed more time.

[@slovelyyx7718]

Did Ali dawah really say a woman can only have kids from 18-28? 😂

[@ninabobo12]

Empty minds make the most noise lmao

[@deltaechomusicnh555]

No, he said women are at there prime at 18 to 28, as in there at the most fertile in those ages. After that it's harder to get pregnant.

[@slovelyyx7718]

@@deltaechomusicnh555 after age 35 is when it becomes increasingly more difficult to pregnant, though still very much possible. By age 45 it’s virtually impossible to become pregnant naturally. So 28 is still very young fertility wise

[@ninabobo12]

@@deltaechomusicnh555 which is also not true. There are many birth complications associated with the mother being too young. Islam teaches us to verify our facts (tabayyun), but people love debating too much.

[@deltaechomusicnh555]

@slovelyyx7718 Absolute nonsense. A woman's peak reproductive years are between the late teens and late 20s. By age 30, fertility (the ability to get pregnant) starts to decline. Please go do your research.

[@lifeofr.s.5824]

Sometimes a womens husband dies and so she needs to education and career to able to provide for herself and her child. You can't always depend on your husband. Anything can happen to him

[@BanglaBhalobashi]

Prophet Muhammad PBUH said: “The best among you are those who are best to their wife. (Ibn Majah) Prophet Muhammad PBUH said:“The most complete of the believers in faith, is the one with the best character. And the best of you are those who are best to their women.” (Tirmidhi)

[@OnePunchMuslim]

"And the righteous women are devoutly obedient to their husbands"(Qur'an)

[@OnePunchMuslim]

"IF they abide by your right THEN to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well never to be unchaste." (Prophets(saw) last khutba) So clearly, obedience to the husband comes before you getting your rights and being treated in the best way.

[@sobragranchester4350]

And we obey to our husband only in obedience to Allah.

[@soccergamer2190]

i see u everywhere

[@OnePunchMuslim]

@@sobragranchester4350 There is no daleel for your statement. The statement of Allah, "the righteous wives are obedient (to their husbands)" is a generic statement. It makes no distinction on what matters the husband should or shouldn't be obeyed. However we also know of the statement, "there is no obedience to the creation when it entails disobedience to Creator" Hence the scholars say that the husband should be obeyed in ALL MATTERS except the commandments which disobey Allah.

[@Marklesfield]

Next show - successful elders who have successful marriages to share their guidance

[@user-ov5rn2io9x]

💯

[@Asiyah2000]

Yeah that will be cherry 🍒 on the top 👌

[@sofiak3075]

This discussion was needed. A part 2 is needed. A list about the topics and discussion between the topic should be loosely made before filming so that the video is more organized and cohesive. The ideas present were needed but needed to be stated in an organized manner

[@peacefulsoul8612]

As someone born and raised in a muslim country, far away from the west, there is nothing that made women "feminists" more than the pure reality of men here or anywhere. You literally have to go in to a marriage and give-up basic respect you'd be entitled to as a human being. Men don't even have to go to the extreme abusive character; having an atrocious temper and being verbally-abusive, belittle, ignore and entirely dismiss women as human beings is enough to kill you inside. No, I'm not talking about an exception. this is an element present in life at the baseline and therefore, yes, I am protecting myself by being a "feminist" and securing me a source of income as well as a personality other than being a feminine mother/wife. We are human beings before we are our gender and the narrative always seems to push the opposite. How is wanting to challenge and stimulate my brain with things other than chores, children and femininity- masculine? Why do you all act like getting a perfect, all-around kind person and perfect muslim as a husband is a given? it's just like the argument you dismiss the sisters with by saying they bring up exceptionally unfortunate cases. Having some sort of career and income from the wife's side IS the balance because it keeps the men in-check. You know what's actually funny? The same men who went about sucking their wives souls, these men who love and would die for their daughters are absolutely pushing them to have the best careers and have strong personalities as they fear they'd end up like their mothers and be treated by some other guy like that.

[@alphauno6614]

Wow that’s horrible. I hope you are able to find the peace you are looking for. I am curious about one thing, do you believe Islam teaches men to behave like this or is it their lack of adherence to Islamic values that made them like that?

[@daymascus]

​@@alphauno6614Lack of adherence and it's sad to see that we muslims are portrayed that way to you. May Allah SWT guide you tho.

[@peacefulsoul8612]

@@alphauno6614 it’s the lack of adherence for sure. The more truly devout the man is the less we see this.

[@alphauno6614]

@@peacefulsoul8612 and yet you are shifting towards feminism? You don’t trust God has your best interest in Islam?

[@peacefulsoul8612]

@@alphauno6614 I never said I was a feminist. I put it between air quotes because our brother Ali calls us having a career as being a “feminist” and plot from the west when it’s just a simple outcome of reality even when it’s far from the west.

[@mjvg94]

Some men seriously need to sit down with themselves and ask themselves if they want a wife or a maid. Subhanallah.

[@raymondreddington9788]

Another delusional feminist

[@mjvg94]

@@raymondreddington9788 😂 so the muslim community reached this point, huh. You know nothing about me or my way of thinking as to call me "delusional feminist". What a shame!

[@raymondreddington9788]

@@mjvg94 More nonsense again from a delusional feminist 🤦🏾‍♂

[@AJ-il1lm8ph7z]

@@sheiknew9734 That's a very harsh and stupid comment to make and is not even Islamic!

[@AJ-il1lm8ph7z]

Sister raising a family, taking care if your own children, prepping the dinner, lunch etc, cleaning your own home, washing your own dishes does not make you a maid!! You are disrespecting all the stay at home mothers (which may have included your own mother) by calling then maids! As if the only jobs respectable in society are the jobs the society has come up with. I take great pride in being a home maker and sticking to my traditional role and the role which suits women the best and is the safest for her! Who can complain for staying at home and not having to get up early in the morning to go to work to ironically work as a worker under a boss? Would you call yourself a slave or servant of your management? I think not!

[@nadiabegum4385]

I personally use my spare time to learn the deen so that I can benefit my kids/family and the community by voluntarily teaching at the masjid (Allahumma baarik fiyya)

[@ragnarlodbrok1721]

May Allah increase you in knowledge and in good deeds

[@Memoshi456]

MashAllah May Allah swt bless all of our efforts and make us closer to him

[@Risadex1000]

May Allah increase you!

[@ameerhamza1581]

MashaAllah, thats the kind of wife every man wants

[@TheManOfPeace]

Masha’Allah May Allah swt bless you with the right knowledge & keep you steadfast on it my dear sister. Young Muslim women can definitely 💯 learn a lot from you so they can have a peaceful, happy married life & rewarding hereafter. To be honest if a woman thinks like you then it’s the responsibility of a man to make sure that she is well taken care of.

[@sakinaallahditta6776]

The men sometimes really need to step back and look at the bigger picture to consider all the avenues this question takes you instead of only hearing their own side. The men keep brushing the women’s points off as if it’s not relative to the conversation when it truly deeply is!! These are actually real problems we are facing and should be spoken about also. Great job anyway, I love that this is even open and up for discussion ❤ may Allah reward you all for the good you do and try to do Ameen x

[@sn3176]

This is one of the most disturbing things I’ve seen from Muslims in a long time. Essentially these men are advocating for erasing women from the public sphere which is insane and antithetical to Islam. I’m shocked that men think so little of women or think so poorly of Allah’s creation that He would make women for the sole purpose of living for what men would want. This is toxic content and I can’t believe this is being spun as some kind of informative Islamic forum. The small minds of these men are frightening and the ummah doesn’t stand a chance if this is far as the intellect can go.

[@pinar8735]

I find it interesting that they are asking women and then they don't believe the answer if it doesn't fit their perspective. They said they don't want a working wife because of A,B,C and then don't like it when a solution or reailty is brought up. Also single or divorced women needing to work, families that need help financially, and women in abusive situations needing a way out and that requires money are all real issues. It's a lot of women and shouldn't just be brushed to the side. Many times, the reason women want to work is not being appreciated, being abused, they are bored, or want some money in their pockets. Some women pressure other women to work, but that's not the case for the majority. Maybe I just grew up in a community where it's normal to be a stay at home mom and even homeschool your kids. I just don't see pressure from others and I live in the west. I think it was more common in older generation. Just like the women said, if women had amazing husbands, they would be stay at home mom's. A lot of men pretend to be great and then when they get married, their true selves comes out. Same goes for some women who pretend to be someone they are not. And women think that being a house wife isn't that great because their husband's tell them that. There are a lot of superwomen out there. There are also seasons in life where women take a break from work, like when her children are really young. The ending was very weird. How is a second wife a passion project? Lol Men actually do have hobbies like KZbin, gaming, cars, watching movies, side hustles, etc. Men don't come home and fix things until they go to bed. That's just extreme. So to believe that's what women should do by just focusing on the house and children is also a type of extreme. They need a mental and physical break too. Sorry for the long comment, but I really felt like I needed to say something.

[@kalsoumkhan6648]

couldn’t agree more! Also might explain why zeeshans marriage broke down, with such toxic views… sorry don’t mean to judge but disappointed with both Ali and zee , I thought they were more socially aware/intelligent… comes to show that certain knowledge isn’t everything (without application) vague ideas that didn’t address real life issues. Muslim Couples need to be a united and powerful force for good, a career/driven woman is like a diamond in the rough, and rare to come by. (I’m speaking as a mum of 4, -part time working - managing home affectionate, maternal woman, who feels inspired and in awe of mothers who are able to do run their homes with their successful careers, employ cleaners cook to perfection (yup they do exist and it takes a certain type of female character, *BUT must add* when supported by her dedicated husband) shallow points thrown about, especially in an age where Muslim men aren’t stepping up, aren’t protecting the rights of fellow Muslim women when it comes to acquiring basic knowledge in Islam, where in the UK!! Many masaajid are out of bounds for women (no women sections) Actually here’s a shout out to @alidawah can you please run a campaign and show your support for women spaces in the mosques?? By the way we absolutely appreciate your every efforts and for doing this much needed chat show, having female panelists is truly refreshing and we look m forward to more. Just sharing our constructive criticism (that’s all)

[@lovea6362]

You are right 💯

[@asyadelmont]

Thanks for saying something, there were so many points to raise with the brothers I didn't know where to start. I guess it's normal for men and women to come at it from very different angles. We have very different (and valid) concerns.

[@Aot1768]

as a muslim i’m very disgusted by all of these muslim men in the comments, even the non muslim men are better than you, how can you look down on women and act like you’re a king when a women has literally birthed you and raised you. And you’re asking about ”how can men and women be equal when they are different”, you feel like men are higher? the answer is no, women are actually more respected in islam, why do you think that in islam you should love your mother first and father comes after? it’s because women are more respected, and you should know your place and respect women, don’t look down on them as if they’re your slaves, they aren’t your slaves and they have their own rights, and just because you’re her husband you do not have the right to tell her she can’t work, who are you to prohibite her from working when Allah (swa) has gave her the right to work? You’re her husband and you must work and give her money, you are not her king, she is a woman just like your mother and you must respect her, and if you can’t respect women and can’t let them work because you are worried about your masculinity, then you need to go buy yourself a slave. and if you are going to have a second wife then you must be smart and rich enough to provide both families, because having 4 wifes is a sunnah, but providing them equally is a fard, are you rich enough to complete that fard?

[@asyadelmont]

@S K May Allah make it easy for you sis. So many ladies are in similar relationships as you've described and it's being dismissed as a minority scenario but in my experience it is very common.

[@acaciablock4974]

as a women i would like to have a job and work while i'm married, however once i get pregnant and have children, then i would become a stay-at-home mum/wife. If i don't have children in a marriage I don't understand why stay at home and do little to nothing all day as there will not be much cleaning or cooking as there will only be two individuals living in a home.

[@aatamf8156]

Exactly

[@naderallo8155]

If u can do a work that is beneficial for ur family or the ummah without mixing with men

[@cooljool1]

there many other errands you can do e.g. grocery shopping, taking clothes to the dry cleaners

[@naderallo8155]

U could use your free time to learn more about your Deen instead of going out for dunya purposes and mixing with wrong people. I wish I had that opportunity to b unchained from being forced to struggle for dunya so that I could do something for the Deen of my lord.

[@voguestore8434]

Socialising with people helps you grow.

[@auntrio]

I'm a stay at home mum and to be completely honest I get really fed up just like EVERY mother does! I would love to have a part time job just so I can be away from the home and my kids but does that mean I will do it? NO! I have a 1 year old that I would never think to leave with strangers or even family as he is my responsibility. Just becuase there is a desire to want to work doesn't mean I'm career driven or that I shouldn't becuase my husband provides. I want to work for my own sanity and inshaAllah when my son is 3 I will. Until then women do your job as mothers and men back off from women who simply want a life outside of their homes. Alhamdulillah my husband is very supportive of me and even suggested we can both work part time to have one full income, he can do 3 days and I can do 2 but unfortunately this isn't very realistic or stable. But it's great to know that he's thinking of my mental health. A happy mum is a good mum!

[@Tan-ns2hr]

Sounds like you have a very considerate husband mashAllah

[@itaz6276]

So when ur son is 3 you will leave him with childcare providers and schools after that so u can work. So why aren’t we being honest - being a housewife isn’t about raising the kids it’s about continuing to raise a man child Most house wives send their kids to school and quran classes etc for the better part of the day so barely see their kids during the day Housewife is about what benefits the man not what benefits the kids cos there kids ain’t there for most of the day anyway lol

[@layart1163]

I know someone one who told me "I should better not marry, this time is dangerous." - i guess she is right...

[@TheNiceOne_]

She’s 100% right. Sometimes I wonder what Muslim men would do if every Muslim woman just decided not to marry 😂 they can still marry non Muslim women but they woudnt really fulfill their rights either since they don’t know about them.

[@napez4126]

Dear everyone I am a full time working mom. And let me say… there will never be a day where I will never have food prepared or dinner sorted. The key is organisation. Women are multi-tasker pros! Also, the key is to get married in your twenty’s and have your children soon after. Do not chase the carrot! Even if you reach the highest in your career it is only temporarily and the reward is short-lived. Motherhood is completely rewarding SubhanAllah

[@lavande5252]

A lot of women in my society do the same ... and their kids are actually doing pretty fine .

[@humzanafees9348]

@@lavande5252 not true. Most kids today aren’t as disciplined like they used to be

[@napez4126]

@@humzanafees9348 I hear you and it is our current day jihad really- ensuring the Akhlaq of our children is the most difficult job. Allah make it easy for us all. I do feel that we should not compare the way we grew up to how our kids behave with us. If a child is rude or Ill tempered , don’t match their mood at that time. Disciplining children these days has more to do with tact and less to do with punishment.

[@marytheraspberry3145]

​@@humzanafees9348 there are multiple factors that contribute to that including: cartoons children watch, how their parents treat them (with love or negligence), etc.. And in many cases, there are children whose moms are home-present but that still are disrespectfully turbulent, violent towards other children, etc.. Because moms are humans too. So a mom could be a good human or a bad human. Same thing for dads. Some people (and therefore moms) teach their children to only care about themselves and when disrespectful to others, they don´t say a word to their children. And part of these women are stay-at-home moms, meaning this happened in the past(before women even started to have jobs). Besides, children go to school now, so by even if the mom stays at home, her children will not be there. So it isn´t necessary.

[@tahaalsaleh7321]

It's really nice to see hard working mothers but i just want to say that earnings in general come from allah not how hard you work so you can't say that you will never have a day where you don't have food for example there are men who work almost the whole day and still have difficulties feeding there families, There are hadiths proofing that رزق earnings in general not just money are already written for us

[@adil1690]

Make part 2 and please let Zeeshan speak alot more. He makes the best points and is also very articulate Mashallah

[@farhinrishta99]

Agreed

[@ARahmanMD]

Yes bro Ali didn't let other brothers speak 😄

[@e.k874]

his last point was not good

[@hanumamaofficial]

How about me 😆😆 I run 4 Businesses - have 2 Kids I take them to school and Kindergarten and I help with the homework. I cook 95% of the time. I clean 95% of the time. My husband is working full time. And sometimes I ask him politely to just please clear the dishes from the sink....he sometimes does sometimes doesn't 😆 i understand it is my fault that I overloaded myself with all of it but i actually enjoy the stress and process of it all..... and I raise my kids in a pretty strict way meaning they need to learn how to wash laundry and clean after themselves. I think cleaning after yourself is a BASIC life skill. And my son WILL have to do it too. This will make his and his wifes life much easier. He won't be any less masculine... On the opposite it can sometimes feel like you're living with a sloppy teenager if all he does is make a mess and expect a loyal wife yo clean after him because he's working full time.... 😂 I work with housework probably 12 hrs per day and still do it. Spoiled is not se*y and not attractive. 🙌

[@anitaannie6957]

This is a great discussion. We really need more like this

[@jawahirmoalimabshir9429]

I understand where my brothers are coming from and there are way too many women who DONT want to work anymore, but there are some women who have to work cause of their own mothers and fathers. The parent need to be taken care of and some men be like “I married you not your parents”.

[@ash-bj1qc]

Final comment: We want muslim married couples who have sound religious knowledge, to show us how to lead the family in Islamic way. This is what is currently needed.

[@umfatima2810]

Yes, that's so true, alhamdulillah. These people sounded more like Western ideology to me. May Allah make us amongst those who follow the Qur'an and Sunnah Aameen 🤲🏽

[@thesarasohrabi]

Yes... Everything else such as money, will take care of itself

[@rq9622]

Anyone who was looking to learn Islam from this video where no Qu'an or Sunnah was cited left empty handed. These kinds of discussions are frankly useless.

[@thesarasohrabi]

@@rq9622 If Quran and Sunnah were enough to face the modern world such discussions wouldn't be needed

[@rq9622]

@@thesarasohrabi Are u implying that Islam is incomplete? Do you understand that a muslim bases his opinion about gender roles on Islam and not some ignorant notions from his desires?

[@nuhaagoder4004]

This seems like such a fun conversation to be apart of 👌

[@sssaaa723]

So happy to see these chat shows brother, good job. 👍MashaAllah

[@tunepa4418]

I find this really funny. You don’t want your wives to be doctors and yet you’ll seek female doctors in the hospital to treat your wives?

[@alishaaaax]

Yup it’s really funny 😂

[@RazorEdge2006]

A lot of the time when sisters work, it's because the husband doesn't make enough to support them both. If he does earn enough for both, then it's not necessary for the sister to work. But it's good for sisters to have some education just in case they fall on hard times.

[@naimam8212]

FACTS

[@naemadiriye7809]

Factsss 💯

[@purplespark8]

Not facts. Nowadays go to any family to ask for a girl's hand in marriage, and the first thing they ask is whether their daughter will be allowed to work. This is even before they know what the guy earns.

[@Aot1768]

@@purplespark8 as a muslim i’m very disgusted by all of these muslim men in the comments, even the non muslim men are better than you, how can you look down on women and act like you’re a king when a women has literally birthed you and raised you. And you’re asking about ”how can men and women be equal when they are different”, you feel like men are higher? the answer is no, women are actually more respected in islam, why do you think that in islam you should love your mother first and father comes after? it’s because women are more respected, and you should know your place and respect women, don’t look down on them as if they’re your slaves, they aren’t your slaves and they have their own rights, and just because you’re her husband you do not have the right to tell her she can’t work, who are you to prohibite her from working when Allah (swa) has gave her the right to work? You’re her husband and you must work and give her money, you are not her king, she is a woman just like your mother and you must respect her, and if you can’t respect women and can’t let them work because you are worried about your masculinity, then you need to go buy yourself a slave. and if you are going to have a second wife then you must be smart and rich enough to provide both families, because having 4 wifes is a sunnah, but providing them equally is a fard, are you rich enough to complete that fard?

[@purplespark8]

@@Aot1768 There was no such need for a long paragraph. All I'll say is that scholars are in unison that the husband can prohibit the wife from working. People these days are way too influenced by western media and feminism, that is why they can't see past all this. You seem like someone who has gone through depression, because nobody talked about multiple wives here, yet you are dragging on about it. If you have, please talk to someone about it. Going through comments on social media won't do anything

[@Blessednaz_]

Not every woman wants marriage and kids.

[@talkoholic13]

But it's a natural that's like a dog that doesn't want to bark. Yes they have dogs that don't want to bark but that shoul 52:12 d in no way be a considerable percentage of the population

[@haifaalthunayan5743]

Hearing Ali dawah say it’s a disaster for a man to support his womens career and pick up in different places just shows how immature he is and how he takes advantage of the deen to feed into his own insecurities.. god for bid a women is successful and has a supportive man oh may allah be with him -_-

[@humnaahmed5187]

I would like to be on the panel for the next debate. I am a young mother who is also a professional and is trying to balance both roles. I believe I have insights I can share. I truly think it is about balance and always remembering our priorities and roles that Allah has given us. The sad fact is that society has set us up for failure because quite frankly even if a man works really hard and works full time, he doesn’t get paid enough to support his family.

[@hyrunnisa997]

So true. My husband works 13 hour days most of the week and we were in the poor house with just his salary. I have to work unfortunately. I would prefer to just stay home raise our kids. Even homeschool them but I can't unless we find a way for us to have another income without me working.

[@Shahid-if4ws]

Support the family does not mean 50inch TV, luxury gadgets, latest iPhone, spending endless on home improvements. Our role model is the prophet and his companions. They lived a simple life.

[@hyrunnisa997]

@@Shahid-if4ws no one here said they have luxury gadgets or new iphones. I have a phone that is cracked and 4 years old. all of our fruniture is thrifted and second hand. we don't have a TV. we only have 1 car. in some places in the united states its impossible to survive on 1 income. please don't shame women for working.

[@ammarmirza1094]

@@hyrunnisa997 no one is shaming them. If you can work without violating your husbands rights in the slightest which acc to me isnt possible, but if u can do that go right ahead

[@novandita9071]

great pelase make this come true

[@rafayshakeel4812]

*Short answer:* _No, Muslim Women Don’t Need Careers To Be Empowered._ _"To the Islamophobes who want to say that Muslim women are oppressed, we simply don’t need to play their game. We can just turn the tables on them and respond, “Actually, it is Western women who are suffering the highest levels of dissatisfaction and depression despite their supposedly empowered lives. Instead of worrying about Muslim women, maybe clean up your own house first. And if you need any tips from us Muslims, we are more than happy to help!”_ ~ Ustādha Umm Khalid May Allah ﷻ destroy Feminism (cancerous ideology). Ameen!

[@Ashulovescats]

Agreed

[@ichickaplayz7287]

Amen

[@revertDaWOOD]

Ameen May Allah bless her

[@areejshams3253]

Ameen

[@nadiabegum4385]

Lol Ameen

[@erikahammerramalho1025]

I think it was pretty ridiculous that Sheeshan said that he thinks that it is not right for a women to do martial arts in a womesn only class, because it is not feminine, so women can't be athletic or healthy? I have not seen this in hadith or Quran. Where does this narrow mindedness coming from ?

[@redpanther9380]

Everyone has personnel opinions not everything can be found in hadith or QURAN, it's a man's nature where I don't want my wife to be muscular etc simple as that and guess what most men don't too

[@ramatouliebarry1007]

I am a medical student. I don't need to elaborate on the sacrifices involved in the medical journey. However, I choose this career for many reasons but mainly for two: one, save a life oneday, just the thought of it makes me happy; Two it's a well paid job and because of my financial background, I grow up as a child having the dream of making life better for my parents. I am 25 years old. Of course, I want to marry and have kids, but again, what about my parents who sacrificed everything for us? Don't I have a responsibility towards them? Now, let's assume my husband wants to provide for me. Will he also finance my parents and little siblings who are looking up to me?? Is he going to agree to taking care of me 100 %, including every tiny expense, and do the same for my family??? Second, not all men but amomg huge numbers, will you continue loving her if you are the only one spending? At some point, will she not be a burden? for example: you are at work and your wife calls you only to say ' my pad is finish, I need money.' Wouldn't you wish she could solve at least that? I don't want to write a lot. I really think that there should be understanding and co-operation. I will not want to go to work when my baby is months old, but then consider the points I stated above. Besides, after 10, 15 years sacrifice in medical school, I wouldn't agree just sitting at home and doctors are needed everywhere knowing very well that in some communities the ratio of doctors to patients is 1: 10, 000.

[@ammarmirza1094]

make a choice either get married and dont violate your husbands rights because ultimately when u get married your priority is your husband and your parents come second or just pursue your career and forget abt marriage.

[@voguestore8434]

​@@ammarmirza1094husband is not a baby. He can take care of himself. Parents become old. As a daughter or a son it's our responsibility to make our parents'lives as comfortable as we can.

[@ammarmirza1094]

@@voguestore8434 husband aint a baby agreed. Too many women out here tryina pretend to be “boss babes” who think they can manage both working fulll time and giving their hueband his rights. No oneever said a woman has to baby her husband. Atleast not me. My thing is focus on one thing at a time.

[@voguestore8434]

@@ammarmirza1094 earning money gives power and freedom. You better focus on yourself. Women know what they can do and what they cannot.

[@ammarmirza1094]

@@voguestore8434 well its not like we dying to marry em either. Its a mans world and we know exactly what we want and we know exactly where we can find women we want.

[@AutismDad_]

Great show. Wish I had the time to watch it all. There was a void of this kind of content, and in this day and age especially in our community, discussion like this is much needed. Mā shāʾ -llāh tabarakallah.

[@malz7217]

This is what bothers me, if a man's wife is in labour, he won't call a male doctor. He will call a FEMALE doctor to protect his wife's modesty. But if these men don't want women to study or work, that's fine, call a male doctor to view your wife's private parts since women should not work according to your poisonous beliefs. Women were always educated throughout islamic history, this type of mentality comes from a lack of intelligence and not thinking about the consequences. As salaam alaikum.

[@pranays398]

Lmao perfect reply 😂

[@SyedAnas619]

Except Obstetrics & Gynecology departments are a thing of modern industrialized world in a healthcare setting. How did you think women gave birth before a thing called "Male doctors" ? There were no wards or OTs 3-4 centuries ago. Women gave birth to healthy babies in presence of midwives.

[@maviyasabri]

Thanks for the reply. Hazrat khadija r.a worked and had best business in makkah. The way to reach to allah is through the sunnah of the prophet. Our prophet married a woman who had her own business and he had family only with her. He didn't have children with rest of his wives.

[@kattym2417]

Education helps raises your children. I have to homeschool my son due his anxiety with autism and I realised this now. It's a good thing to be a mother and educated you don't no what life brings.

[@highlightdaily4828]

This example is just outplayed, boring and regurgitated by low iq fussaq ppl

[@NobleHomeHealthCarePortland]

This was a good forum. A lot to benefit from. Masha’Allah this 3 Sisters have tried their best to explain what they know about this topic. Good job guys

[@confidentmuslim]

mashAllah , Jazakallah kahir, I've learnt a lot from this episode. This was a great discussion, a lot of us young brothers and sisters growing up in this western society have been indoctrinated with liberal and feministic ideologies from a young age, therefore, its so important that we understand the gender roles from an islamic perspective.

[@finklechomsky2992]

Wow! Masha Allah ❤❤❤❤❤ Everything is profound in this talk I've learned a lot from this discussion for me, An eye-opening discussion for sure 👍👍👍

[@mehjabinmiah7271]

Great Debate. I am a female. Let me tell you my life story. I did not plan to have a career, it happened due to Allahs plans. My dad passed away, i was 17, i had 4 younger siblings, where is the money coming from to put a roof and food in my families life. My dad provided - all gone at a snap of a finger by Allahs will. So all 4 siblings work and provide to run the household - say all girls. I actually had 2 brothers who did not step up to the plate to provide so what do we do .. starve. Then ended up in an abusive marriage where I gave up work and wanted children and it never happened. Second marriage - lovely man - barely survives with his wages prob around £1000 a month. Working his upmost best according to his abilities - he is autistic so struggle. My current hardworking but we cannot survive on his wages. We barely survive. I have to work to ensure roof over our head. We have to go half and half. There is no choice in the matter. In london how much is rent - how can my husband survive on 1k a month. See the situation. I dont have a choice but to work. Now we can cannot have kids so what do I do with my life so i have a full career.

[@alphauno6614]

Sorry to hear that sister. May Allah give you patience. I would like to suggest, if he is not earning a lot and you live in an expensive area, why not move? What's holding your family back? Make the effort, inshallah Allah will make things easier.

[@mehjabinmiah7271]

@@alphauno6614 yes so the next question is, husbands parents dong want to leave there expensive place and he has a duty to his parents, life is complicated with various nuances, its not black and white, all you have to make sure is you have a good heart hardworking and good intentions. There is no right or wrong answer in this whole women working thing. Allah has given many trials. What if your husband becomes disabled, your dad is disabled. Islam is beautiful.

[@alphauno6614]

@@mehjabinmiah7271 I see. I guess they won’t listen to your suggestion to move. In that case, I would say that instead of looking at people better off than you, look at those with less than you. The fact that you can go to the store and buy fresh fruit and vegetables, have access to clean water and electricity, parks, etc all are great bounties from Allah. Many in other countries would wish to have your humble life. Being content is where you find peace, not wealth. Also reading Quran and seeing what Allah says also brings great peace to one’s heart. May Allah give everyone the ability to find peace on the righteous path.

[@dickcheese705]

The autist must make more and you should stay inside and cook him some dinner blyat.

[@enjointhegoodforbidtheevil]

May Allaah grant you tawfeeq in all your affairs. And the fact that you married a man with Autism gives me hope for my son's future. Allaahumma Baarik lakum.

[@M-M-ju2ol]

As someone who quit working after marriage and children, my life has never been the same again. I don't have an identity or anything of value to contribute,I'm seen as a burden to those around me and my thoughts and opinions are often undermined because I've lost the basic authority that I would have had if I had an independent life outside being a home-maker. I am one of those statistics as the 3rd woman is suggesting. When people within the home don't respect you ,so why act surprised when society has same attitude towards housewives

[@rafiqtsm1451]

Sadly they will largely ignore this response but so many Muslims personal desires and aspirations are literally wiped out and they reject the choice they made to stay home. Her input is disregarded, no one sees her as a unique individual that has wants and likes, she just disappeared into her home. When she starts to struggle with Iman because being around kids all day 24/7 is sucking her life force folks say she is ungrateful and as a mother she shouldn’t even have any needs. Just be a mom and a breeder that leaves your husband alone. Support him is an absolute rule but anything you may want to pursue for yourself is a potential burden for him. And she is already a burden and men have been taught that she can be a fitna at any moment. They feel trapped. It’s sad

[@TheManOfPeace]

Sister we can’t judge your husband just by listening the one side of the story, that wouldn’t be a fair judgment. But if you are right then your husband is not treating like a Muslim man should be treating, may god make him more loving & compassionate.

[@alphauno6614]

M-M so what do you think the solution is?

[@bewolf_z]

sister to claim that caring for your house and children has no value means they successfully affected your mind, that's what happens when women put man's goal in life as theirs.. now feminine nature is nurturing understanding feelings emotions etc.. masculine nature is to be tough mentally physically, now from pure logical point group of people who have feminine traits(women) the best way for them to function in society is to care(as whole group), masculine traits(men) best suited in society to hold and deal with hard tasks and physically dangerous jobs, woman's main and first goal in society is to create a successful well mannered healthy mentally emotionally physically etc.. human being, a man alone can't do these it needs feminine traits which man lack, why would a man keep a woman that puts all her energy in masculine when he fully capable of that and lacking the feminine one? I'm not saying that women must not work, what I'm saying is that woman's first goal and best function/work in society is to care for her children/home once she's doing that and if a job don't effect that main goal then it's good otherwise she's making the prior as second and that's obviously bad. if you are rising your children in the best way and caring for your home as should you are just doing your worthy job, if someone disrespect that he doesn't logically understand what is he saying, finally god's orders what truly gives value the trendy morality from failed society worth nothing.

[@temporary_world]

I can't comment about the western world but in our culture this is the reality.. Men want women as house wives here. But every penny spent on wife is accounted for, its a favour which they bestow upon their wives. For the money she spends, even if its on grocery or baby products she is called extravagant, she is wasting husband's hard earned money. "What do you even do whole day other than sitting on bed" is what she gets to hear after working 24/7 looking after husband, kids, home and most of the time in laws as well. If wife is suggesting something her opinion doesn't matter because she is a woman and women in general are less in IQ than men. This is why ALLAH said for witnesses either 2 men or 1 man and 2women is required. Women are weak in Imaan because she gets period every month and can't pray, can't fast during that time. If a woman have difficult pregnancy then its not a big deal to be pregnant and do house chores because their mother did more than that and wife is just being entitled, and wants to make husbands life miserable by using her pregnancy as an excuse. All the difficulties that women faces during pregnancy is nothing compared to the what husband has to go through that time without proper care from wife.. The list goes on.... This is the life and value of a housewife here..

[@hamzaalaudi1184]

Hey Ali, sort of unrelated but, do you think it would be possible to bring some scholars on this show to help spread the scholarly knowledge, thanks. Also love this series please keep it going, Jazak Allah Khair

[@ibtihalramsa2947]

I really love it!!!! Part 2 please!!!!

[@Waiting.for.Sunshine]

“ALWAYS RESPECT TWO WOMEN, WHO GAVE BIRTH TO YOU AND WHO WAS BORN JUST FOR YOU.” Collected 🤗🤗

[@nobs997]

What about your daughters and sisters?

[@laylapaz8822]

Alhamdulillah! Nicely put.

[@kojo2773]

Yes, I should respect my mother and my huuris.

[@maryam_4437]

no women are born just for you sorry

[@baganrbagan]

Respect , provide and protect our women , but that doesn’t mean we should allow them to do what Islam doesn’t allow. Always follow sunnah and what the Quran says , if you don’t feel comfortable with your wife working . Then don’t let her work , but make sure you provide for her and family . Simple

[@markjohn3461]

33:38 "you cannot enter a marriage with the fear of Allah swt in your heart and say I'm getting ready to leave it" Subhanallah Allahumma barik laha

[@oayysz8909]

Typical feminist has a back up and waiting for first problem to leave and not rely on her husband. That mindset is dangerous and may be the reason to high divorce rate amongst young muslims in west imo

[@oulangkous718]

the sister is right but she misunderstood the other sister. taking steps to set yourself up for surviving difficulties is not necessarily a negative or fear mindset. u have tawakkul and u tie your camel. u might want to prioritize marrying a husband with taqwa who is a student still earning a humble income and so not feel pressured to choose prioritizing wealth. As the other sister mentioned, many things can happen in life like sickness, death, etc. why r brothers learning self defence? does it mean they don't have trust in Allah? no, they r just giving themselves the best chance to survive in case they find themselves in threatening circumstances.

[@naimam8212]

What is wrong with hoping/ wishing for the best, striving for the best but preparing for the worst? That is something a smart person does. Allah( swt) wants us to trust him, but he also want us to use our brains and protect ourselves.

[@AlimonyRapist]

@@oayysz8909 its called damage control. Some people like to make sure their doors are locked, even in safe neighbourhoods, because they don't have an exception complex where they think they're exempt from all the possible ills other individuals who started off with good marriages eventually experienced. 😘

[@blumachine]

@@naimam8212 it's not allowed for women to protect themselves but if they get abused it's their fault for picking an abusive man to begin with

[@Kabadal]

Asc, 1- feminist does not represent by women who says I want to have career to educate myself. 2- my Muslim brothers, women always worked, in midwives, manufacturing, clothing. Muslim in society are from different nations and carry different cultures. 3- for the Ali guy, who is keep saying age! Don’t forget Khadija was old when she had babies, and was already wealthy! 4- Muslim men don’t cover the house bills like their ancestors did. I’m Muslim women, and I went to college to create income for myself in case, the husband dies, or walks away! To protect any kids

[@cooljool1]

having a career is not the same as getting educated. lots of careers are not compatible with starting a family you are not khadija and most men will not choose older women regardless of the status and income. you will continue to be ignored muslim men are learning not to be plow horses for stay at home mothers and that's a good thing entering the relationship with ifs and buts is a recipe for failure

[@Lufqil92]

It's all about time management and communication. As a father, i want to care, teach, and watch over my daughter in her growing years. Not just hand over the whole responsibility to the wife. It's best if both parents do the work together but are still doing it the traditional ways. P.s. I still earns alot Alhamdullillah and pay the bills.

[@popthatbeep]

my wife is a dentist. she would yell at me over small things and argue almost everything . and now my daughters seems to follow her traits. it broke my heart often. Sometimes i think i don't really want to care if she didn't want to be a good wife to me, but seeing my daughters slowly follow her path really make me stressed. now i'm working harder to be more successful cause i wanna give her a "golden umbrella" and i'm not turning back, i don't care. I hope she would appreciate me more when she have to share my unconditional love. pray for me guys. i just want a happy family. i really mean it, i feel stuck edited Guys i know i can not justify what really had been happening in comments and yes you may argue you haven't heard from her sides. I'll say of course there's also part of me in the problem as well, as nobody is perfect. The thing i'm trying to tell is as a husband personally i would avoid to start any argument at all, i would just shut up and let it go but my wife have the tendency to start an argument on silly petty things. It's like unnecessarily inviting arguments just for the sake of winning the debate. It's so weird,, sometimes i feel like i'm gonna lose it. And all those petty arguments always started when she's having bad days at work. She's wasn't like that when she was a small-time dentist. Sisters, having careers is not a problem, just don't bring home the problems and winning an argument that you plucked out of thin air is not a gain. And please learn motherly traits our mothers used to. We men/husband have to bear the sins of the whole family. A burden you can't never understand. I'm sorry if i offended you. Please pray that my daughters grow up in Allah blessings

[@tbishop4961]

You'll never make yourself stronger by making her weaker

[@killuaxgon8367]

May ALLAH (SWT) make your family of those who are righteous and full of happiness and love and grant you and all the Muslimeen the highest level of Jannah

[@az9324]

Establish boundaries immediately. Be a Rajool, have Gheerah. Or you will end up Doormat for life. Because every Man wants Respect deep inside his heart

[@jonjoe3130]

Sorry but that's not acceptable, working harder won't change the situation some ground rules and basic manners are needed.

[@namelesswriter3892]

@@tbishop4961 That's not what he means at all. He just wants more of her love and affection, since it seems she's always moody and verbally abusing him. They both work, him and her and it's not fair that she thinks she can make his life miserable just because she isn't in the mood to be nice. And what makes it even worse is that their kids are following her path of unpleasantness. This is just sad. It's clear this man loves his family, but they walk all over him.

[@mazbaz6996]

I notice some brothers may ask non mahram women inappropriate questions or bring women (who are struggling to cover correctly or not adorn themselves,i hope one day they find the ease to do so) onto their discussions online,but they won't bring their own wives and daughters online and do the same(which doesn't mean they should). As men what happened to having protection over your sisters even if they are not your daughters or wives? What do we think the Scholars would say? It's a matter of aiding each other to Jannah and not to the fire. If men fixed themselves maybe part of the women would fix, if women fixed themselves maybe part of the men would fix.

[@alphauno6614]

If all parties are not represented, then ppl will think the discussion is biased and therefore useless

[@FrankHunes]

it was an open discussion and nobody was mentioned by name or anything similar, idk what your problem is.

[@NobodyMeAndMe]

Insecure men want to control a woman, and finances is often the means to do that, to deprive her of option and means of escape abusive marriage

[@mohammedkhattab6003]

There are men like that, however not every man is like that. Some men would just prefer for a traditional marriage, which majority of righteous men probably prefer. Furthermore, the prophet (saw) said in a hadith "its better for a woman to stay in her home". But the west has brainwashed many women unfortunately

[@EzziiG]

The issue with women who have careers is that they will listen, respect and obey their boss at work but if their husbands ask them to cook or clean they will refuse.

[@serenatalia]

As a sister, i agree. I think women can work as long as they acknowledge that the house is priority and if they can balance work and home and are organized, i see no problem

[@yoyokan]

Maybe some women but not all women who have careers

[@barryberisha6519]

Because your spouse is supposed to be your partner while your Boss doesn't care about you.

[@Ss-un8ho]

This was a really good show. Please do more like this. Setting was perfect jazakAllah

[@HeatherPonyweather]

The guy in the black shirt is so sarcastic and disrespectful.

[@novandita9071]

ali as a host you need a headphone so you can control the guest when the audio have some trouble or anything like that just sugestion love this content allahuakbar

[@fatikay5735]

I have to say I am thankful we don't have these debates in modern Muslim Africa. 😊🥰. Dear brothers, if you allow your daughters to go to school, then it is only logical that she follows a profession. I am happy my dad gave me the same opportunity as he gave my brothers! I am the eldest of the family and today, I take care of my parents financially. That is a blessing! Also in our context, there are nannies, maids at home, cooks, and family members who are helping with the kids so the parents can work and have a balanced life. So for that I am grateful.

[@StriveforJannah2]

Exactly. People (these men in the video) forget that it takes a COMMUNITY to raise kids. Not just the mother.

[@aminahmed110]

@@StriveforJannah2 Nah it doesn't take a community at least not literally but the parents should be the ones raising the kids right coz the community/society is going crazier each day and you don't want your child to be brainwashed by them at the critical age.

[@hardplabber1859]

@@StriveforJannah2completely agree but it begins at home

[@alphauno6614]

Sister Fati, your answer is in your own comment. It’s not your responsibility to support your parents. Your brothers exist for a reason. What you are doing is commendable but understand that your children are your priority. May Allah guide us all to walk the righteous path.

[@alphauno6614]

@@StriveforJannah2 Explain to me why you would let another woman raise the kids you are supposed to raise? Replacing one woman with another woman. Explain this logic

[@BeautifulAyah]

“And of His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you affection and mercy. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought.” [ Qur’an surah Ar-Rum(The Rome) 30:21)

[@Jaffer_cake]

This was so depressing to listen to. "Men in general do not want a career orientated wife in the long run" - says who and if so, why? Why should any man expect their partner to cook, clean, and do other domestic chores around the house, and why can't those men share the duties without the expectations of having things done for them. Afterall you're not living with your mum anymore. Provide, protect, love, listen, cry, pray, communicate sure, and support your partner with her career, let your women grow and flourish. The lady in black cardigan speaks so much sense, you really should've let her speak rather than being interrupted more often than not.

[@hakunamatata3935]

Beautifully said brother. Thank you 💖

[@cooljool1]

career oriented women are generally unattractive because of their personalities, because they're economically dysfunctional- their line of work is not compatible with starting a family- and because men don't select for careers/status in women- they tend to look at other things e.g. beauty, personality, things like cooking etc... There's no use complaining about men's preferences and expectations for women. They are what they are. cooking is an essential skill, if you don't know how to cook as a woman, you're not marriage material regardless of how many degrees you have or the career you pursue. Men are not plow horses and expectations are part of marriage too. You seem to think men should just give without getting something back in return. It doesn't work that way because we aren't here to be plow horses for women

[@kavitaaknath8607]

The fish market podcast!!! So happy I found it.

[@sanamo86]

If you want your wife, mother, sister to see a female gynaecologist, it means a woman/girl needs to go to university which means she will need to enter university at the age of roughly 21 years. She will not be able to enter university after children and marriage at the age 30 years. Brother Ali's suggestion to have kids and marriage and then go into work education is not feasible

[@theancientsam]

Why is that? Average life span for women is over 70. Why does she need to sacrifice her unborn family for a career looking at another womans birth maker. Talk about hell on earth. I couldnt imagine the depression they must feel wanting children but realising its too late for them and going to work everyday to see other woman getting pregnant etc Peace be upon you

[@theancientsam]

She could start that career later in life if its that important or maybe reserve this for women who cant have kids, but i don't see why a man can't do this job honestly. Getting a papsmere is not exactly girl time, its a medical procedure peace be upon you

[@Twilight.xchange]

@@theancientsam I disagree. It’s actually possible to be a doctor and have a family at the same time. A lot of Muslim women would also prefer a female doctor over a male doctor.

[@theancientsam]

The idea of doctors is very suspicious. These are modern day snake oil salesmen so why do you prefer a woman snake oil salesman over a male snake oil salesman. They don't study whole food and nutrition and exercise or prayer. They only study "medicine" and that's the snake oil. True birth is generally accomplished with a wetnurse or a woman doctor but outside of this i don't see the point. Why for example should the average person want a female general practitioner if there is a man available? Also why not just avoid the snake oil altogether. Medicine is a scam and we don't need it insha'Allah

[@RolloRafferty]

“Happiness [is] only real when shared” ― Jon Krakauer

[@qwertyuiop23916]

maarriege is not about happinesss

[@sanaahs9785]

33 minutes in, the niqabi sister said such a good point and it is so true

[@sarahal-momen8849]

I hope that each speaker can be provided a microphone. Thank you for raising these issues. I wish I was able to hear everything clearly and not need to rewind to understand 😅

[@xavier4260]

Normalise house wife's and traditional women 😅/ respect for them 👏 🙌 👇

[@zaralearningkorean]

I love this type of CONTENT and the set is dreamy and beautiful Allahumma barikk! JZK

[@user-ws2fj6ie9u]

I absolutely agree with the scarcity mindset. That is the exact reason for the boss babe. Hyperindependence is the result if having a fear of abandonment or financial abuse.

[@izy9911]

GREAT show !

[@rthgi0404]

Life is not always easy, but when you have Allah, everything is okay.

[@walkerjobe6964]

You must be at a very high spiritual level, to feel like that. I envy you.

[@sm-ed3kw]

@@walkerjobe6964 It's hard to describe but in a way it's very liberating to just do your best with your situation and have faith that whatever happens is what Allah swt has decreed to be best for you ..ie when you are ill and in severe pain- this is Allah swts way of bringing you closer to Him, being reliant on Him, having faith that you are being rewarded for your patience. It's always a glass half-full type of attitude no matter what the situation I guess

[@Hafsa8660]

Best comment.

[@reemkannin500]

@@walkerjobe6964 you can get there. talk to Allah and ask him for that and put the work

[@walkerjobe6964]

@@reemkannin500 Has that ever happened to you? If so, can you tell me what happened, so that I can be more confident about that.

[@leonzaki]

Sister in middle is amazing, she has super faith in ALLAH swt, she is very positive on some point, may ALLAH swt bless her for that. 90% + people has their eyes on situation & so on, what if this happens, La haula wala khuwata If we are just good, ALLAH swt will do best to just, but it doesn't mean it will look good or feel good, you might feel bad initially, but later on it will be best for sure.

[@jacklynpaul9909]

the sister in the middle is the only AUTHENTIC Muslim woman on the panel. However this is my opinion, ALLAH knows best.

[@Asiyah2000]

@@jacklynpaul9909 mashaAllah I agree and her modesty shows her iman Alahuma barik🤲

[@katyana92]

The same asking to women to not have career are the one asking for female doctors 😂 This mindset is so tiring and so superficial… 🤦🏾‍♀️ Accept the destiny Allah SWT decrees for you.

[@mdubaydullah]

I learn so many new idea and things while watching this kanda shows Ali vai. Many many thanks from Lisbon portugal 🇵🇹.. keep doing this it makes us strong on our faith and interest of having a sharia oriented married life . Thanks once again.

[@HK-dd2bo]

I used to think "what's the issue with a woman having a career". Until I realised literally every traditional household that talked to me about it swore to me that it's impossible to raise kids properly if you are working a 9-5. Every single one tells me that you need to always be there in the kids life. And more I look at how kids turn out from 50% households versus traditional ones the more I'm convinced they are actually right.

[@Mannequeer]

If the father is always working then he will be in the child's life less. If both mother and father are working it can be arranged so that both parents spend enough time with their children, instead of one more than the other.

[@HK-dd2bo]

@@Mannequeer this is false. If both parents are career oriented then one partners hours will not affect the other partners hours. The father will still have the same number of hours at work the only difference is the wife will also be at work as well

[@Mannequeer]

@@HK-dd2bo that's not always the case, there are a few countries (including mine) that allow work hours to be altered if you have children. This assures that both parents will have time to spend with their children on a more equal level because it is important for children (as they're growing up) to have both parents around.

[@HK-dd2bo]

@@Mannequeer regardless it will mean the child has less time with parents. And the real point in my original post is that it's extremely important for at least one parent to always be there to raise the child.

[@Mannequeer]

@@HK-dd2bo no, it's important for both parents to be involved in a child's life. A child needs both role models around.

[@truthwefollow]

A wife’s priority should be her kids

[@salmashaheen274]

And Husband first

[@khadeejahassen]

Same for men his responsibility is his wife and kids

[@MH-bf4uu]

​@@salmashaheen274husband has responsibilities over wife not the other way around

[@abdulqadirmahmoud1742]

Br Zishaan had such good answers for all the points you're making. Let him speak more

[@user-ou5kk7ms9p]

Cooking and cleaning are basic life skills and all should know it and learn it🤦🏽‍♀️💔