Do NOT Be Fooled by So-Called “Bible Contradictions” | Ken Ham

[@Eszlee]

I love that you’ve produced a ministry with so many factual answers that there are literally no more questions a person can think up anymore. 😃😇There are no excuses for ignorance.

[@DianaSandersCinamon]

If you don't like Ken Ham, don't listen to his posts. You won't change the minds of anyone who does like him by posting snide remarks. You are just proving the point of how hateful people are who have no faith in God, Jesus or the Bible.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

​@@DianaSandersCinamonWho are you speaking to???

[@DianaSandersCinamon]

@@bobbyadkins6983 @Eszlee, not you. I thought is was a snide remark to say "there are literally no more questions a person can think up anymore". I didn't take it as a compliment to Ken Ham. I think Ken Ham was saying that if you seek answers, you will find them, not that there are no more questions a person can think up.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@DianaSandersCinamon I don't think she meant it the way you think. Her emojis seem to indicate that she was sincere. You should ask her before assuming what you assumed.

[@DianaSandersCinamon]

Did you mean this sarcastically or do you really believe that there are no more questions a person can think up. I thought it was sarcastic, but someone commented to me that you are sincere. If I am wrong, I apologize, but please clarify.

[@gi169]

Thank you Ken Ham.

[@intentionally-blank]

Always encouraging.

[@gi169]

@intentionally-blank indeed brother, God's face shine upon you and give you peace...

[@inthelightofhisglory9614]

Amen brother! There are no Bible contradictions. Just people who don't understand the Bible.

[@JoeDirt-v3b]

Yes to that.

[@protorhinocerator142]

There are some contradictions because they are intentional. Let me explain. Jesus endured contradictions in His own body for our sake. Hebrews 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. What kinds of contradictions did Jesus endure? 1. He was the glorious Son of God, but was born of lowly estate. 2. His was the most legitimate birth ever, but the Pharisees accused Him of being illegitimate (John 8:41). He didn't correct them BTW. He endured that. 3. He was the most worthy man to ever walk the Earth. He endured shame and abuse when He deserved praise and glory. 4. He is the resurrection and the life (John 11:25, 14:6). But He died and spent three days in the tomb. This was one of the most unnatural things ever. 5. He was sinless, born perfect. He was the new Adam. He was born to live forever, because there was no curse against Him. But He was also born to die. 6. He knew no sin, but became sin for us. He died on the cross so that we could live. 7. The holy, perfect, unblemished Son of God chose to fellowship with sinners. These things Jesus endured in His own flesh. They were contradictions. God is the God of order, reason, and logic. Contradictions are chaotic and irrational. For Jesus to endure contradictions is another contradiction. But all these contradictions were for our benefit. Jesus willingly accepted all this, for us. But instead of choosing God's contradictions, many people choose Man's contradictions. They want eternal life in Heaven but they don't want Jesus. This is a contradiction. Jesus is the resurrection and the life. He's the only way. How can you have the life but reject The Life? It makes no sense. Rejecting Jesus isn't logical, nor is it "scientific". It's rebellious. People reject God, so they reject God's plan of salvation, and God's one Savior. There is only one. His name is Jesus Christ. He is the Savior. We all need a Savior whether we realize it or not. And He's the only one. There is no other. We're all sinners. God is holy, holy, holy. Without the Savior you would wither before the holy God. You would be undone. You can't endure it. But when you accept Jesus as your Savior, you are made worthy to stand before the holy God. Not as a servant, but as a son. This is the only way to come before the Father God, Jehovah. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[@HGChaosNL]

The bible has no contradictions because it is fiction.

[@inthelightofhisglory9614]

@@protorhinocerator142 that's an interesting way of putting it. I've never heard that before.

[@JohnNewby-o8d]

@@protorhinocerator142 there is nothing to contradict the fact that god committed many evil acts and is therefore not worth following.

[@meccastewart2282]

Thank you Ken Ham! Love Your videos!

[@Bless-the-Name]

The polite word to describe feces is "that which is brought forth". That is going into my vocabulary 😂

[@davidmckenzie5085]

love your work Ken

[@raycrossley5398]

I agree with you Ken There are no Bible contradictions. just people who are saying this who are unable to understand the bibles.

[@georg7120]

You should read the bible, not believe lies about the bible.

[@HGChaosNL]

Do you take the bible literally like Ken Ham does?

[@JoeDirt-v3b]

​@@HGChaosNL I do............

[@rogermetzger7335]

Before 1958, my parents read more than 150 Bible stories to me - about half from the Hebrew Bible and about half from the Gospels and the book of Acts, I later read most of those stories myself and I memorized more than 150 Bible passages - about half from the Hebrew Bible and about half from the Gospels and the book of Acts. In 1958, I started studying the Bible for myself using marginal references and concordances.* I also expanded my study of church history. Here are a few of the things I’ve learned after more than half a century of study: I still haven’t found a way to interpret every Bible passage literally without creating “contradictions”. Many people think they are interpreting the Bible literally but what they are really doing is arbitrarily deciding which passages to interpret literally and which to either ignore or interpret according to ostensibly Christian traditions. Not that there is necessarily anything wrong with traditions but several supposedly Christian traditions are derived, not from the Bible but from Grecio-Roman religious beliefs and practices. One of the reasons for this is decisions - first by clergy in Rome and later by Roman emperors - to offer a belief system strongly biased against anything they considered “Jewish”. For more than a thousand years, most of the clergy in Europe knew almost nothing about those parts of the biblical narrative that came before the birth of Jesus. Jesus was an observant Hebrew but the doctrine gained popularity that part of his mission was to replace the instructions that he, himself, had given humanity through the Hebrew prophets of antiquity. Many of the resulting beliefs and traditions are still widely considered Christian in the twenty-first century. The resulting belief system influenced the way people read the Bible in the sense that they redefined some of the words that are key to systematic theology. For example: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. - Genesis 2:7 This Hebrew concept that the human soul exists only so long as the body is animated by the breath of life was replaced during the first few centuries after Jesus returned to heaven with the concept that a person is an eternal and eternally-conscious soul temporarily imprisoned in a mortal body. The earliest written expression of that concept (sometimes called “dualism”) by human philosophers seems to be the writings of Plato (428-348 B.C?) By the way, Plato’s concept was first introduced by the serpent in the garden of Eden as a way of contradicting the creator - Genesis 3 verse 4. This error led to another. Clergy found it profitable to encourage people to think of their dead relatives as existing in a kind of spiritual dimension after death. To promote that doctrine, they invented the doctrine that heaven was a place “above” the earth and hell was a place “under” the earth. None of the Hebrew words translated “hell” in the King James translation mean any such thing but that doctrine was the reason the clergy in Europe were so eager to punish people for the “heresy” that the earth is a planet that orbits the Sun. In 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus published De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestirum which challenged the teachings of the churchmen. He died shortly after its publication. Galilieo Galilei was born a couple of decades later. Galileo was found guilty of heresy for supporting Copernicus’ heliocentric theory. He was sentenced to house arrest, where he remained for the rest of his life and his writings on that subject were banned. - See Indiana University School of Medicine - Bioethics article, Historical Lessons on the Use and Abuse of Science and Scientists... *I didn’t get an unabridged concordance (Strong’s) until the 1980s. Most of what I was able to learn using that unabridged concordance is available online in the twenty-first century but if anyone is serious about Bible study and is electronically challenged, I strongly recommend getting and learning how to use an unabridged concordance. It was - and sometimes still is - very helpful to me.

[@bettytigers]

I hope you flourish in God's service even more! I hope a lot of your mockers apologise to you soon, may God bless your gracious attitude when it's appropriate.

[@davidadams8726]

I can't answer a lot of questions or explain the criticisms of the naysayers and unbelievers but I am ok with that. When God got me right, He impressed upon me not to argue with Him or argue about Him, He tells us His ways are beyond our understanding and I NOW KNOW that. Look at the questions He asked Job. . . . These people that criticize the Bible, there are probably a thousand things they use every day but cannot explain. Just about everyone has a cell phone. Can anyone really explain how ALL those features - camera, texting, email, calendar, GPS to name a FEW - work? A lot of people have a microwave, use it every day. Can they explain that? Oh sure, they can go google and copy and paste some BASIC information but none of them could create a working cellphone with ALL those features. It is like this. I absolutely trust the Bible period. It proves itself to me everyday. David Adams Mobile, AL

[@Lonewolf---]

@davidadams8726--- LOL That's just an exercise in willful ignorance, and not at all compliant with Bible verses like these: But sanctify the Lord God in you hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: ~1 Peter 3:15 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. ~ 2 Timothy 3:16,17 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. ~ 2 Timothy 2:15 🤔🙄

[@protorhinocerator142]

People don't reject God because of science. True science points to God. They reject God out of rebellion. They start from the assumption there is no God, and then force their "facts" to support their assumption. They didn't look at a bunch of science and conclude God doesn't exist. They're starting with the conclusion and hand-waving whatever they need to so they can maintain a comfortable lie. Comfortable for now, that is. These lies will become unimaginably terrible for them on the day of judgment.

[@DC-jk9ts]

Can you please advise me which is the best version of the bible to buy. I want one closest to the original scrip. Thank you.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

■ 1. Insofar as, to my knowledge, no one within at least either this century, or the 20th century, has ever claimed that... one or more "original manuscripts" are being held by any individual or entity (such as in a museum in Britain)... it cannot be proven, "based on the evidence" (which happens to be non-existent), that... any given version of... The Bible... represents... a translation (let alone a good translation) of... a 66-book compilation of... "the original texts". ■ 2. Given the fact that... based on copies of what are the "publicly revealed" extant manuscripts... it cannot be legitimately argued that... "The Bible, in toto, is the inerrant, and infallible, Word of God"... anyone desiring to obtain... the best version of... The "Holy" Bible... should recognize the fact that.. the pursuit of obtaining... the best version of... "the entire Word of God"... (thought of in terms of The Bible being comprised of 66 authoritative books)... can only be an elusive one. ■ 3. In consideration of the treatment of what constitute some of the most critical verses in terms of their theological implications... (such as can be found in, for example, "The Epistle of James" and "The First Epistle of John")... my best recommendation to you (or to anyone else for that matter) would be this: ● "The New King James Version". * NOTE: * I do NOT believe in... • unicorns. 🦄 For those who do believe in... • unicorns they should appreciate owning one or more copies of... ● "The King James Version" only.

[@sarahwall9283]

Old KJV

[@jdc1264]

Ignore the kjv onlyists

[@sarahwall9283]

@jdc1264 The KJV is the best and proven bible out there. Without it your faith won't be whole 🙏

[@jdc1264]

@@sarahwall9283sorry but kjv is not the first English translation and you need to repent from the kjv onlyism. Kjv is not the way and the truth to heaven but JESUS is!!

[@JohnNewby-o8d]

According to the bible god sent angels of death to kill innocent children, he ordered people to be stoned to death for working on a sunday, he allowed jobs family to be slaughtered to win a bet with the devil, and how many acts of genocide did he commit. The contradiction occurs when you say god is good despite the overwhelming amount of evil he committed.

[@vjohnson6557]

Your looking in the Old Testament the Old Testament was a unique time you have to look at the Old Testament from a New Testament lens. Jesus paid the debt on the cross to pay for our sins. Therefore things changed from the Old Testament to the New Testament and we are in after math of the New Testament. When Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden the consequence is death and you see that as you read through the Bible. Death meaning separation from God and become enemies with God.

[@NickGagnon-y7e]

@@vjohnson6557 So those kids did not die?

[@mirrorglassgames]

@@vjohnson6557 cope

[@JohnNewby-o8d]

@@vjohnson6557 there is this omnipotent being that could not forgive anybody without his son having to die a slow and painful death, can you believe that ,how evil he must be.

[@dudester873]

Thank you for this information. 👍 -- It is good that one can go back to the the original Hebrew translation to determine any nuances that seculars may pick up and run with.

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

There are no Bible contradictions. There are people who do not understand the Bible. Plain and simple. God bless brother 🙏🙏🙏

[@robmetcalfe8902]

Amen Ken

[@conniesmith5161]

The one thing that really troubles me most of all is how many different interpretations different religions have of the same scriptures that we all read. You mentioned one time that you had found a Bible that was a great translation of the Hebrew text. I'd like to know what that Bible is called I'd like to read it

[@anonymous18404]

I actually thought cud meant excretion, but I haven't read leviticus since I was a kid.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@@anonymous18404 Every time I read Leviticus it makes me so thankful that we're not under the law.

[@protorhinocerator142]

For me, Numbers was the hard one. I had already heard the stories in Genesis and Exodus. It was familiar. I could visualize most of it. Numbers is just that. It's mostly a census. 5000 men from this tribe and 8000 men from that tribe. It was very dry. It's important, but it's dry. Power through Numbers. After that the Bible gets easy to read again. Don't let Numbers stop you from reading the Bible.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@@protorhinocerator142 One way to handle that is to read maybe just a few chapters a day and also go to another book that is easier for you to read.

[@felipekennedy3135]

KJV forever, God's word preserved from this Generation.

[@jdc1264]

There were other English translations before the kjv. Did you know that?

[@stephenwall5210]

@@jdc1264 There is only the Geneva Bible before the KJV Bible that was translated into English, so what other Bibles are you referring to?

[@protorhinocerator142]

@@stephenwall5210 You're arguing with a copypaste. He won't give you a list.

[@buckbuchanan4902]

I was in an online debate about the so called "contradictions" in the Bible and the person I was debating gave me a list of about 30 items. As I do, I looked up each and every item, in context, and compared it to what they were claiming. In the end, after summarizing why all 30 of their claims were inaccurate, I told them that all they had done was demonstrate their own lacking in facts, evidence, understanding and context. Just as I expected, they then switched to insulting me, the Bible and God. 1 Peter 3:15: "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear."

[@georg7120]

Even the genealogies of Jesus are contradicting and show that he never existed.

[@protorhinocerator142]

@@georg7120 One shows His lineage through Mary and the other shows His lineage through Joseph. Both were of the House of David. Mary came from the line of servants. Joseph came from the line of kings. Joseph was the rightful King of Israel, which is why he died before Jesus started His ministry. That made Jesus the rightful King of Israel. How is this any of this a contradiction?

[@georg7120]

@protorhinocerator142 According to the gospels, both show the lineage of Joseph. Do you have any proof that you are right?

[@protorhinocerator142]

@@georg7120 In Matthew 1:6-16 we see the genealogy of Joseph. This went through David's son Solomon. After that is a list of the kings of Judah. There were 27 fathers. In Luke 3 we see the genealogy of Mary. In verses 23-31 we see the fathers back to David. This went through David's son Nathan, and there were several Josephs in the list. It might have been a family name. There were 22 fathers. That's a 5 generation difference. Hebrew genealogy seldom mentions the mothers. In this case (Matt 1:6) there is a mention of Solomon's mother, but not by name. Mary was born into the House of David, but any women in that lineage were not mentioned. I'm assuming there were around 5 women. Also notice in Matt 1:16 the Bible has to specify "Joseph the husband of Mary". Joseph was a common name, as was Jesus, John, James, and Judas. There were plenty of Josephs running around. Mary's father or grandfather happened to be named Joseph. It was not the same Joseph as her husband.

[@rev.stephena.cakouros948]

Excellent

[@eltonron1558]

Contradictions are one thing. Addition, and omission, are the real problem with English versions. Because of a punctuation error in Luke, the vast majority of professing Christianity thinks Jesus was alive, when dead. He was either dead, or Christianity is bogus.

[@protorhinocerator142]

Jesus wasn't "stunned". He wasn't in a coma. He wasn't faking. He was dead. Doornail dead. D-e-d-d-d-d-d dead. I'm part Italian. To say the Romans didn't know how to crucify someone is an insult to my ancestors. The Romans absolutely knew how to kill people. The Son of God, who was the resurrection and the life, was somehow dead and laying in a tomb. Unimaginable. Incalculable. Unfathomable. But on that third day, death could no longer hold Him. The grave was overwhelmed. How can you fit the ocean in a thimble? Nor can you fit Jesus in a tomb. He endured all this for our sake. The very personification of life was laying dead in a tomb. Why? Because we deserve to die. He paid the price that we deserve to pay for our sin. If Jesus Christ is not risen from the grave, our faith is worthless. But Christ IS risen from the grave! He did rise again, in fulfillment of the Scriptures. He is now seated at the right hand of the Father in Heaven. And He is returning soon for us, just as He promised. 1 Corinthians 15:14-20 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

[@revv45acp71]

Very helpful on rabbits!

[@imbatman3620]

I was always told if you really want to learn and understand Bible scripture you must learn the text in the language it was originally written in: Hebrew ✡✝️💯⚔🛡🙏

[@apologetics-101]

Great video, Ken! Love your work! God bless!

[@tahabennett7388]

Bible isn't a preserved scripture preserved in the original language from the original authors. And it constantly gets new updates. No way to prove what the overall message is. XD

[@IanBartleson]

Salvation is described in many places as “a free gift, not by works.” But then in other places it says “blessed are they who do His commandments that they may have a right to the Tree of Life and enter the Holy City.” How can it be a free gift if you have to earn it? If these things don’t contradict each other, nothing in all the universe does. I’m sorry.

[@br00kjr14]

What does it mean to be blessed?

[@IanBartleson]

@ to be under God’s favor and not curse.

[@br00kjr14]

@@IanBartleson @IanBartleson I'm glad you understand that that verse that says "blessed are those who do his Commandments" the only way that you can do God's Commandments is if ....you are favored by God ....is if you are indwelling by the holy spirit... it's only if you are empowered by God.... it's not something that you do in and of yourself 🤗 take the time to study the Bible your mind would be blown when you get to see how great a Creator we have and how awesome and merciful he is to send his son to die for Sinners Like Us leaving behind his holy spirit to empower us to walk in righteousness that we don't even earn... it is imputed to us.... the work was finished at the cross

[@Barefootnot]

This is an incorrect interpretation. Keeping the Commandments does not give you salvation, but rather is a result of salvation.

[@IanBartleson]

@@Barefootnot but it literally says “that they may have a right to it.” That means earning. If you have a right to something that means you earned it.

[@raycrossley5398]

Ken I was told years ago that the gospels came from the notes the disciples took down as they followed jesus for the three years of his ministry .Jesus never wrote any thing down . These notes were witness statements That is why there all different. They were for the disciples own personal use. I feel maybe the disciples never though any one would be ever reading them. Back then Having these gospels notes was very dangerous So after the last decuple died the families of the disciples hid these notes in clay jars in caves that were all; around israel till after the second temple was destroyed in 70 ad . Then the disciples notes were taken out of the caves copied by hand Over an over again. Then given to the Bishops to be recopied by pastors one mistake the whole lot was thrown out So there were no mistakes this is why there no contradictions.

[@Jazzfestn]

Paradoxes

[@DT-rb7ro]

How do Christian scholars answer this question... Carbon dating proves the earth is millions of years old??

[@Terrylb285]

I don’t think Carbon dating is used to determine the age of the earth , more accurate methods are used and several different methods, isotopes I believe are accurate. The earth is 4.6 billion years old . Many Christian scholars hold to an old earth . Most Hebrew scholars hold that the earth is old. Ken Ham is committed to his skewed interpretation of the Hebrew Scriptures.

[@DT-rb7ro]

@Terrylb285 Jesus came billions of years after Adam and eve?? Doesn't seem plausible at all.

[@Terrylb285]

@ don’t know of anyone who believes that. Or has said that.

[@DT-rb7ro]

@@Terrylb285 If you read Genesis the earth and humans were created days apart.

[@DianaSandersCinamon]

Carbon-14 cannot be used to date anything older than 50,000, so they don't use it to date the age of the earth and there are also discrepancies between Carbon-14 and other dating methods. There are significant problems with the other dating methods used to date the earth. For example, using radiometric dating, diamonds have been tested to be 6 billion years old which contradicts the scientific consensus age of the earth at 4.5 billions of years old. That's a huge difference. Just a short summary. If you're interested, there's a great movie called "The Ark and the Darkness" that has the best explanation of a young earth that I have seen. It's free on Roku. God will always answer when you ask. You just may not like the answer. I'll leave you with my favorite bible quote - Numbers 6:24-26

[@allanh7137]

lol, the book itself is full of contradictions and Yahweh is a blood thirsty storm god that craved human sacrifice.

[@kathyz3272]

Thank you so very much.

[@oldmanjoe6808]

I also have answered a few dozen alleged contradictions in the Bible but on a different social media platform. In every case I found that the Word of Christ Jesus applied as summed up in Jn.8:43,44. Those void of life can not understand Holy Scripture, simply because it is alive and they are dead. If the Ark of the Covenant fell on them, they'd deny it is the Ark of the Covenant. Nonetheless, "They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy." Jon 2:8

[@protorhinocerator142]

You can argue logic and reason with them all day long and it won't work. They won't listen to reason. But then that's doing it in your flesh. The Bible calls preaching the Gospel "foolishness". God's foolishness is smarter than Man's logic and wisdom. When you preach the Gospel, it's no longer your words. God's words are going forth and accomplishing much. They don't return to Him void. The Gospel goes right to their hearts. The Holy Spirit empowers the words and convicts them of their sins. This is how you save people.

[@oldmanjoe6808]

@@protorhinocerator142 All wrong. Mostly. It's true that an atheist will not listen to reason on the spot... perhaps the Gospel will "simmer" in his mind when he's in quiet mode. The Holy Spirit does not convict everyone of sin, else there would be no atheists. You use statements such as saying God's Word does not return to Him void... that's wrong. They've accomplished for Him the condemnation due the fallen man. ~That~ makes His Word infallibly returning satisfied. If that is not true, then everyone who has ever heard the Word of the Gospel is redeemed, as far as your belief system sounds to be the case. Judas wasn't convicted of sin before he took part in Christ's execution, and neither did Simon of Acts 8, for example. Refresh your doctrine by the parable of the Sower. "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Acts16:31a

[@oldmanjoe6808]

@@protorhinocerator142 All wrong. You contradict yourself in your reply. That people do not hear the Gospel ~is~ God's Word not returning to Him void... Rom 9:18 "Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth." See? Those who do not hear are dumb to the Gospel according to the will of God.

[@HGChaosNL]

"Secularists regurgitate what they're read." Oh you mean like you do with the bible? Your ONLY source and piece of "evidence" for your claims? Classic cultist behaviour: Projecting.

[@williamacuff7707]

There are no Bible contradictions, only people in sin that the word is hidden to them; be obedient and faithful and God, Jesus, will open his word unto us!

[@NickGagnon-e8b]

But there are many. There are passages that say to kill yet it says not to kill.

[@axel1957ll]

So our english bible is mistranslated?

[@letmepicyou]

100%. You know Genesis 3:13 as "And the LORD God said to the woman, what is this that thou has done? And the woman said, the serpent seduced me, and I did eat." Which is nonsense. Snakes don't talk. Anyone that accepts Genesis 3:13 on face value is no "Christian", because this makes NO SENSE. TRUE translation of Genesis 3:13: "And Yahweh Elohim said to the woman, what is this that thou has done? And the woman said, Satan seduced me, and I did lay with him." This intentionally-mistranslated verse is designed to keep people away from "2 seedline doctrine".

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

​@@letmepicyou Allegedly "true" translation... found where?

[@letmepicyou]

@@OnlyOneTruth623 In other translations besides the KJV and in concordance study. Do you really think the book of Genesis involves talking snakes and magic apples? Is that a story that makes actual sense to you?

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

@letmepicyou ■ 1. In essence, I asked you for evidence in support of your proffered hermeneutic (i.e., that Eve engaged in sexual intercourse with Satan). You failed to provide me with any specific evidence, but, instead, made reference only to other translations and a concordance study. Why? Which specific translations? Which specific concordance(s)? ■ 2. To make reference to an "apple" is, relative to the subject text, to perpetuate both a "non sequitur" and an "argumentum ex silentio" - a dual error that, among other errors (such as, for example, the fallacious doctrines of biblical inerrancy...and ..."Left Behind" pre-tribulationalism), has held a seemingly ubiquitous place within "modern" Christendom...and...within society at large. ■ 3. Talking animals? One could easily refute that notion: Animals neither talk anymore than, say, "a leopard changes its spots". Indeed, and to be sure, an animal that changes its color is, not only wildly absurd, but, from a rational, "scientific", "man-made climate change" kind of mindset, such is simply unheard of within "the animal kingdom" and... Excuse me a moment. "Daddy, Daddy, what's a camilleon? And, what's a firefly?" 😲 😲 😲

[@letmepicyou]

@@OnlyOneTruth623 I suggest looking up what the Hebrew words "awkal" and "nashaw" (clearly spelled here in 'phonetic Hebrew', there are no vowels obviously), which are key to understanding 3:13. Then the only thing you have to figure out is "serpent" = Satan. If that's a huge stretch for you, there isn't much to say.

[@MangoMike316]

👍❤️❤️❤️👍

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

● "Knowing, therefore, the terror of The Lord...." ○ "Christians" (both those who are "saved"... AND... those who are "unsaved")... should expect that... a Day... is coming when.... they will have to appear before... ○ "The Judge", Who is Yehoshua (Jesus) Mashiach (Christ) and... may be held accountable for.. their having undermined... • the work of evangelism... by virtue of... their having made... • false claims including, but perhaps not limited to, the following: ◇ Biblical inerrancy ◇ Lordship Salvation ◇ Pre-tribulationalism.

[@NickGagnon-e8b]

But there are many contradictions. The Bible is not perfect.

[@rf7477]

There are hundreds of contradictions in the NT alone. Their combined graveness completely destroys biblical inerrancy. The four worst contradictions of christianity: 1. Are believers saved by faith alone? 2. Do people have free will? 3. Is the eucharist literal or symbolic? 4. How can jesus have a virgin birth and have a Y chromosome direct from David?

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

■ ON THE ONE HAND... I cannot agree with you in regard to your list as having presented the four worst contradictions relative to Christianity. ■ ON THE OTHER HAND.... given that your first charge pertains to the matter of... the eternal destinies of individuals... I would agree with you, not only in terms of its "inclusion" within a list of "the four worst", but also in terms of its "position" as well (i.e., its appearance as first on the list, albeit I do not know whether or not you had that in mind at the time you posted your comment).

[@Globeguy1337]

@@rf7477 Are you open to a casual approach to it or do you want only debates and dunks? Also, who says Jesus had ‘a Y chromosome direct from David’?

[@rf7477]

@@Globeguy1337 Paul says it in Romans 1.3. jesus is seed (sperm) of David. jesus is male and has a Y chromosome which he cannot get from his mother. If jesus has a virgin birth then he can't have a direct male link to David. I am willing to debate on any of the contradictions in my list. I am also willing to provide a very long list of contradictions from the NT, all of which destroy bible inerrancy.

[@Globeguy1337]

@@rf7477 Ah - so the debate/dunk approach. I may or may not have time and interest to engage much in that, but if you’re pulling the list from a website or something I’d appreciate you telling me that source (or link it if possible) so I can peruse it at my leisure. First to clarify: by ‘contradiction’ do you mean an inconsistency (such that conflicting and mutually exclusive statements are both made by the same source), or do you just mean a position with which at least one person disagrees (and as such they ‘contradict’ it)? Seems like a silly question, I know, but it actually was a sticking point in a recent discussion I had.

[@rf7477]

@@Globeguy1337 Both. The NT is riddled with contradiction, inconsistency, gross errors and outright fabrication. Biblical inerrancy is impossible. A fatal contradiction. You asked me how jesus gets a Y chromosome. Paul says it. jesus can be a direct male descendant of David or have a virgin birth, but not both. A fatal contradiction. I have seen voluminous 'debate' on this matter from christians and it is all dishonest.

[@MatthewStephenson-523]

Only ignorant people would think there are contradictions in the Bible no matter what. And everybody will find out when they die.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

Or, alternatively... "Only those who are familiar with The Bible have the ability to recognize that it, in fact, contains contradictions...."

[@MatthewStephenson-523]

@@OnlyOneTruth623 except people that claim there are contradictions in the Bible know absolutely nothing about the Bible. Just like what was talked about in this video.

[@MatthewStephenson-523]

@@OnlyOneTruth623 on my notifications it says you replied to me 4 times total but for some reason KZbin won’t let me read 2 of them. But what does Proverbs 27:3 have to do with ignorant people? Unless you are saying ignorant people can’t admit they are ignorant so they get angry or wrathful instead? Or are you asking do I understand how wrath can be heavy?

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

@@MatthewStephenson-523 ■ 1. To say that someone is "ignorant" can be understood as asserting that such a person... either... A. lacks knowledge or... B. more broadly, lacks intelligence. ■ 2. To say that someone is "stupid" can be understood as asserting that such a person... either... A. acts in a manner contra the knowledge that he, or she, possesses or... B. again, lacks intelligence. ■ 3. You apparently alleged that anyone who maintains that The Bible contains contradictions, despite having been presented with [some] evidence to the contrary, is "ignorant" (i.e., "lacks knowledge" concerning The Bible) - a drawn conclusion that I regard to be very absurd. ■ 4. You went further, compounding your error by stating what could be perceived as an implication directed specifically at me that I know "absolutely nothing" about The Bible - an assertion that I regard to be highly absurd. ■ 5. I do not present arguments... such as... any opposing... A. the teaching of biblical inerrancy B. the misleading teaching that Jesus is "God" or the ridiculous teaching of "modalism" C. the belief that Jesus died on "Good Friday" and that He was wrapped in "The Shroud of Turin" D. that eternal salvation is obtained, in part, by "repenting of one's sins" and "receiving Jesus as one's Lord" or E. that Jesus will "come again" (i.e., "The Pre-Trib. Rapture") before He will "come again, again" (i.e., "The Second Coming") without my having logical, and biblical, reasoning to back up same. ■ 6. As to the matter of the subject of... "spiritual warfare" in terms of... □ "creationism" (as over against "evolution", including "theistic evolution") I consider Ken Ham to be... "my hero" !!! 👍 👍 👍 In terms of... □ bibliology (i.e., biblical inerrancy) and □ soteriology (i.e., Lordship Salvation) I consider Ken Ham to be... "my enemy". 👇 👇 👇

[@georg7120]

​@@MatthewStephenson-523 Just look at the bible with a critical mind. The different genealogies of Joseph in the gospels prove that Jesus is a fictional figure.

[@georg7120]

Why "so-called"? They are real.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

Not all apparent contradictions are unresolvable; however, some, indeed, are unresolvable... except for those individuals who.... • knowingly... • deliberately and willfully... • habitually.... • practice... the sin of... "intellectual dishonesty" !!! 😮 😮 😮 (Cf. 1 John 3:9, AMP.)

[@Number0neSon]

I think there are a couple clear contradictions in the Passion and Resurrection accounts; for example, there is a contradiction between Luke and John concerning Mary Magdelene's first angelic encounter. In Luke 24, when Mary and the women first arrived at the tomb, angels appeared and told the women that Jesus had risen, but in John 20, Mary initially saw no angels and left fearing Jesus' body had been stolen. Now, AiG's Tim Chaffey claims there isn't a contradiction, saying in an article that _"it seems that (Mary) was not among the women who encountered the angels at the tomb"_ . However, Luke 24:9-10 names some of the women who initially encountered the angels at the tomb. Guess who is first on the list? That's right - Mary Magdalene. So if Luke is correct, Mary encountered angels _BEFORE_ Peter visited the tomb; if John is correct, Mary only encountered angels _AFTER_ Peter visited the tomb. Both accounts cannot be true at the same time and I don’t see how they can be harmonized without ruining the narrative. Now, is this contradiction earth shattering? No. Does it affect Christian doctrine? Not at all…except for the doctrine of inerrancy, which Ken Ham and AiG are clearly invested in protecting.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

Key term being "invested in": cf. "sunken costs" fallacy.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

There's no contradiction. Read the details of each very slowly. She went to the tomb more than once.

[@Number0neSon]

@@bobbyadkins6983 I agree, Mary went to the tomb more than once, at least in John's gospel. The issue is, Luke 24:1-4 and John 20:1-2 are both describing Mary's initial visit to the tomb; in Luke's account, she encounters angels (v.10), while in John's account, she does not (v.2). Reading the details slowly does not remove the contradiction.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@Number0neSon It's not a contradiction. Giving different details of the same story is not a contradictions unless those details contradict each other which they don't. She went to the tomb and saw the stone was rolled away and she went and told Peter. She went back again, looked inside, then went inside, and the angels spoke to her. Use both John and Luke to get ALL the details. They don't contradict by one not telling us what another told us. John told of an extra visit where she didn't encounter angels that Luke didn't tell about. Luke apparently didn't tell about her very first visit. Stop making it more difficult than it is. Trust the Bible. It was inspired by the Spirit of God.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@OnlyOneTruth623 You don't like the Bible or people defending it? What do you believe in?

[@YECBIB]

1st...Get an interview with Trump and inform him of 6000 year ago Creation.

[@velkyn1]

funny how christians have two contradictory versions of their "creation" too.

[@bingobetes1825]

I notice a lot of people overburden the simplicity of the gospel lately. It’s all fine and dandy to have in depth conversations about biblical beliefs between people who have spent time studying the word of God, but how many people have been run off from seeking God because of complicated doctrinal speeches and debates?

[@thomasehrlich8623]

What about all the many other contradictions ? For instance the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew and Luke. Or the Jesus infant story of him fleeing to Egypt and the other having him go to Galilee ? Or Jesus being born in a manger in one gospel and him being born in a house in another ? There are many more.

[@velkyn1]

yep, many many more. Christians do love to lie about their bible.

[@69Applekrate]

you are simply interpreting wrong. If you really want to know- If you really want the truth, simply study Scripture more. It becomes easier to comprehend. babies need milkm adults can eat solid food. It takes time/understanding

[@isaacthegoat1432]

Harmonise them.

[@jaydenMataera]

No Matthew gives Jacobs genealogy and Luke gives that of Mary there simply is never any bible contradiction ever and there never will be

[@Faust2Dr]

@@69Applekrate - don't you realise how insulting that sounds? If the Bible were literally true then surely God would make it obvious, and Christians wouldn't have to indulge in verbal gymnastics to explain the contradictions away. The Bible is a range of books from various authors, in a variety of styles - historic, poetic, allegorical , mythical etc. Of course there are errors, contractions and inaccuracies, and just saying, 'you just don't understand it enough', is a very lame excuse.

[@Buttercup6745]

I love Ken Ham but I wish he just used the KJV.

[@sarahwall9283]

Yes I agree

[@Maranatha99]

Why?

[@sarahwall9283]

@@Maranatha99 it's a most accurate translation. Go and study it out for yourself

[@Abidingingrace-p6z]

The answers to bible questions are there if we just search for them.

[@cryptocpa1194]

There are contradictions in modern versions but not in a King James Bible.

[@DianaSandersCinamon]

Good point. That's why may say "KJV only",

[@MatthewStephenson-523]

What modern versions are you talking about? I know there is contradictions in some versions of the Bible like the Jehovah’s Witnesses Bible the new world translation. But that’s because they purposely changed it to fit their narrative. But I know Bibles like KJV, NKJV, NLT, ESV, NIV and some more don’t have any contradictions in them. So again which modern versions are you talking about?

[@nurse580]

@@MatthewStephenson-523 Please inform what are the contradictions in the New World Translation? Most people say this just because they’re ’told’ this but have never fully investigated for themselves. Jehovah’s witnesses also use other Bible translations and quote from them. People don’t realise that they only had the KJV alone and had worked out all their major beliefs from the KJV way before the NWT was formulated around the 1960’s!

[@MatthewStephenson-523]

@@nurse580 I know all about Jehovah’s Witnesses. Me and my family invite them into our house all the time and prove their beliefs wrong with the Word of God. And they never can dispute any scripture we give them. But John 1:1 is what the Jehovah’s Witnesses purposely changed to fit their narrative in the New World Translation. In all good translations John 1:1 says “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” But in NWT it says In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. And I know they read other Bibles as well and they first read the KJV. But just because they first read the KJV doesn’t mean they actually paid attention to what they was reading. Millions of people read something and completely change what it means because they didn’t pay attention or because they are ignorant or because they can’t read very good. The Bible warns about changing the Bible and the Bible warns about teaching anything other than what the actual Bible teaches and people that do this will be rebuked or reproved and cursed.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

​@@MatthewStephenson-523​ In regard to the subject of... altering (i.e., deleting) the text of... ● "The Book of Revelation"... the author... according to... ● "The King James Version" both regrettably and erroneously... threatens people with... what is tantamount to... losing their eternal salvation... if doing so !!! 😮 😮 😮

[@Globeguy1337]

That’s not even a potential contradiction, though - even if it were incorrect that wouldn’t constitute a contradiction. If I say I was in London and I also say I wasn’t in London that would be a contradiction - if I say I was in London while I was actually in Leeds that would be a falsehood, but not a contradiction.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

If I say that I were in London... but the truth of the matter is that I was in Leeds... then my "false" testimony would constitute... a "contradiction": my statement would be correctly viewed as having been contra that which is factual, contra that which is the truth.

[@Globeguy1337]

@OnlyOneTruth623 That usage is useless at best and sows confusion. A ‘contradiction’ is when a proposition is inconsistent with another proposition. Discussion of ‘Bible contradictions’ addresses positions in the Bible that are inconsistent with other positions in the Bible (‘internal contradiction’). This is an important vein of analysis because it aims at establishing the consistency and coherence of a belief system and in so doing quickly dispense with those rendered incoherent by internal contradiction. I suppose one could argue that an incorrect statement ‘contradicts’ the truth and any and all statements ‘contradict’ anyone who disagrees with them, but this usage is a bit useless as a category as it brings nothing new to the ‘Bible Errors/Inaccuracies’ subject while muddling the concept of coherence analysis and (as a part of this muddling) gives the force of a judgement of internal incoherence to a mere external disagreement. A witness ‘full of contradictions’ ( which in normal usage suggests ‘internal’ contradictions) is automatically to be deemed untrustworthy; a witness who disagrees with other testimony (‘external contradiction’, if you will) is still viable pending determination of correspondence with truth. If we contrive to utilize this broad usage it blurs important distinctions and inflates the subject of ‘Bible contradictions’ to include any and all disagreements related to the Bible. If I read 1Sam 3:15 and say ‘nuh uh’, BOOM - you’ve got yourself another ‘Bible contradiction’.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

​​​@@Globeguy1337 ■ 1. Your unqualified rejection of "London vs. Leeds" as being a "contradiction" was the issue with which I contested. That said, my remark remains valid: your assertion remains an invalid one. ■ 2. I have no issue whatsoever with further defining an issue... such as breaking down a discussion of... ● "airplanes" into... • "prop planes" vs. "jet planes" or... ● "Bible difficulties" into... • "internal contradictions" vs. "external contradictions".

[@Globeguy1337]

@@OnlyOneTruth623 My response seems to have disappeared (YT hasn’t liked me recently), but I already addressed that. I do (and implicitly did) concede that it may not satisfy a rabid or autistic polemicist, of course.

[@Lightbearer616]

Yes why believe what you actually read when there's a liar who can try to use smoke and mirrors to cover it up?

[@georgewagner7787]

Do you read Hebrew?

[@Lightbearer616]

@@georgewagner7787 Do you somehow believe the versions of the bibles contained in the Vatican and later translated into other languages were translated by monks who couldn't read/translate Hebrew (Aramaic of the period they did the did the translation) and it took 2,000 years for someone to translate it correctly? Do you think the Jews who translated the Torah around the time of the alleged Christ couldn't speak Aramaic, their natural tongue? So, the purpose of your question is to illustrate what?

[@Jake-mv7yo]

Of course there will be contradictions because the god of Moses and the god of Jacob aren't even the same god. Jacob worshiped El which was the main god of the Canaanite pantheon and Moses's god Yahweh was just a minor god of fire and metals. Later when the people of Moses became relevant they just wanted Yahweh as a part of the Canaanite pantheon but they already had a god like that named Baal so that's when the Moses people decided their god would just be the one God.

[@georgewagner7787]

Where on earth did you hear this confusión ?

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

■ 1. What is... "the proper starting point": ● God's Word or... ● man's word? Clearly, God’s Word; however, The Bible does NOT represent, in toto, "the Word of God". ■ 2. Sadly, the truth is this: The Bible DOES have contradictions. ■ 3. Consequently... the doctrine of biblical inerrancy... (i.e., the assertion that..."The Bible [in toto] is the inerrant, and infallible, Word of God")... is fallacious. ■ 4. Asserting that... □ "The Bible is inerrant...according to The King James Version"... does NOT eliminate the fallacious nature of... the doctrine of biblical inerrancy: The Bible remains errant... regardless of whether an appeal is made... ● to...The King James Version or... ● to....any other version. ■ 5. Asserting that... □ "The Bible is inerrant...according to the original manuscripts"... is an absurdity... as it constitutes... an "argumentum ex silentio".

[@iwitness8622]

Nope! Not a one contradiction in the Holy Scriptures. But here is an obvious contradiction from Muhammad noble quran. Allah has no partners but he is Allah's prophet. Now we know the prophets came into partnership/agreement/fellowship with God and were entrusted with God's very words. But unreasoning beasts do not seek understanding and just believe whatever anyone tells them without thinking about it for even one second! How can you be Allah's only prophet Muhammad if you have no partnership with Allah? It's senseless dribble! Funny stuff. 😂 Oh! Allah made man according to Muhammed but Allah doesn't have sons. Too funny!

[@joshuakohlmann9731]

The correct answer to the question "Isn't the Bible full of contradictions?" would be: "No, not _full."_ Of course there are contradictions. They are in all likelihood deliberate. A good example is that Jesus was born in Nazareth to fulfil the Old Testament prophecy "He shall be called a Nazarene." There is no such prophecy. The contradictions are to get you to look at the deeper meaning: the non-literal meaning. The Bible ia not a literal book.

[@rockhopper01]

You could be mistaken in your definition of “Nazarene.” You are assuming it’s referring to a person from a particular place, like an “American” from America. However, doing so disregards the fact that such words can have additional meanings. John 1:46 says that “nothing good comes from Nazareth,” indicating that the town was despised. There are numerous prophecies that indicated that the Messiah too would be lowly and despised, such as Psalm 22:6-7 and Isaiah 53:3. Therefore, the original readers of the gospels may have understood the term “Nazarene” to be a pejorative for a lowly or despised person, which fulfills the OT prophecies just fine. A modern example: within the church we often describe someone with discernment and who checks often with Scriptures as being a “Berean.” Doing so describes their spirit of discernment, not where they’re from (even if they really are from Berea, Kentucky! 😂)

[@joshuakohlmann9731]

@rockhopper01 No, you're right: Nazarene means "separated one." Another case in the Bible is "Philistine," which we now use to mean an uncultured person. But that's exactly what I mean: if you just skim over the reference to "Nazarene", you might just assume that it's simply saying Jesus came from Nazareth, rather than that he was a separated one.

[@OnlyOneTruth623]

Bringing attention to the word "full" is important. Only the intellectually dishonest among "Bible scholars" can maintain the spurious doctrine of biblical inerrancy.

[@rf7477]

christianity has never admitted its worst, and fatal contradiction: jesus can be a direct male descendant of David or have a virgin birth, but not both. This outrageous tale is 2000 years old and cannot be explained away by any form of apologetics or the many dishonest variations of dogma.

[@rf7477]

@@forplaylistsetc The NT does not have a genealogy of Mary. She is unknown. christians try to imply that Luke 3.23 is for Mary. It is not, it is of Joseph. The two genealogies of Joseph from Matthew and Luke are absurdly variant. When christians do this sort of thing the result is that just about everybody is a descendant of David, all the way back to Adam. The messiah has to be a direct male descendant of David. Standard christian doctrine. Paul in Romans 1.3 very clearly says that jesus is seed (sperm) of David. christianity cannot now declare Paul to be in error. Worse still, Paul travels a lot, and with Luke. Paul never mentions virgin birth or Mary and apparently Luke never tells Paul about virgin birth. The whole thing is an outrageous fabrication and a fatal contradiction.

[@rf7477]

@@forplaylistsetc I would say that christianity is "stuck" with virgin birth. It looks like it was added to doctrine long after jesus death and probably to attract the pagans of Rome who were already used to the idea. I also suspect that Paul very early on realized in his travels that virgin birth was pagan. Paul was a very strange and bitter man who might have been influenced by Mithraism. His obvious dislike of the heathens (and others) of Rome could have been enough to reject virgin birth. He never mentions it, or Mary. In fact he never even mentions the trinity. How did Luke not convince Paul of it? Also, David had at least 7 wives. Tracing anybody back to him would have been very difficult. So why did christianity put so little effort into this and why did it do such a sloppy job of it? Why do so few of the writers of the NT never mention it? The thing is, miracles have to be allowed and bolstered. Dogma.

[@elmercoblentz9432]

During exodus, they were stoning their closest relatives, they knew there was a God. Isn’t that enough proof? Are we that much less knowledgeable and civilized? And, to add to our confusion, you’re defending the Bible.

[@intentionally-blank]

Can you tell us where we can read about that stoning during their exodus from Egypt?

[@elmercoblentz9432]

@ Well, after destroying Jericho, they tried to take a small city, and were turned back. Word came that someone broke rules in Jericho, the culprit was stoned to death. I heard this story many times, can’t remember reading it. I believe they said, stoned along with his family. Not sure if that meant wife and children or parents and siblings.

[@intentionally-blank]

@@elmercoblentz9432 Hmm you sure Jericho was part of the Exodus? I'd recommend you read and study scripture first hand. Do you have other objections to form your bias against scripture?

[@elmercoblentz9432]

@ What would you say if I told you I did that on purpose, because I have to convince myself that Christians are all alike? They won’t dispute the event, but they will discount the whole thing if you mistake the date, where the story is found, or you can’t name everyone who was also present.

[@elmercoblentz9432]

@@intentionally-blank Which two books of the Bible have chapters that are word for word the exact same?